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Speaker 3: A lot of reaction to that interview that we just
Speaker 3: did with Angela Marsden. A lot of people upset over
Speaker 3: what's going on, not just to her, but the other
Speaker 3: small business owners in the area. And it just seems
Speaker 3: like the push that we're seeing right now, coming not
Speaker 3: only from City Hall but from Sacramento, is that they
Speaker 3: just don't want the homeowners here. They don't want the
Speaker 3: small business owners here. They want us all gone to
Speaker 3: make way for Chinese investors to come in and dump
Speaker 3: a ton of money into high-density housing. That's what they want. That,
Speaker 3: to them, is the future of California.
Speaker 4: And there's no plan for the fallout of a business
Speaker 4: owner that's been paying taxes and supporting jobs in this
Speaker 4: community for years and years and years and years. When
Speaker 4: the developer decides to buy a property and evict all
Speaker 4: of the tenants that have been paying, that have been
Speaker 4: contributing to the economy, nothing. There's no support. Nithya Raman
Speaker 4: is the city council person for that district. And Nithya
Speaker 4: Raman is running for mayor based on her record of
Speaker 4: all the eviction protections and tenant protections that she's had
Speaker 4: for people living in apartments. But there seems to be
Speaker 4: no protections or even the city caring at all when
Speaker 4: small businesses are getting evicted in the name of all
Speaker 4: of this development.
Speaker 5: They don't even care.
Speaker 3: No, no. And she's so right, Angela is, when she
Speaker 3: talks about that small businesses like hers are are the
Speaker 3: fabric of society. I mean, they are how we experience
Speaker 3: these areas. And in a place like Southern California, where
Speaker 3: there's just not a whole lot of history, it's special
Speaker 3: places like that that people remember when they travel here,
Speaker 3: when they come here from another state, from another country.
Speaker 3: They remember those iconic restaurants. I can't tell you the
Speaker 3: number of times people say, how in the world did
Speaker 3: we let the Brown Derby go away? How did we
Speaker 3: let chasins go away? How did we let so many
Speaker 3: of these old-time Hollywood fixtures just evaporate into the night
Speaker 3: sky when so much of our history took place there?
Speaker 4: It's just, we're losing so many things that make Los
Speaker 4: Angeles unique. You go to the Pineapple Hill, which I frequent.
Speaker 4: I go there, you know, usually on Tuesdays for trivia.
Speaker 4: it is such a throwback to the old kind of
Speaker 4: bar that you don't really see because almost everything in
Speaker 4: Los Angeles is just another chain that's repeating itself. It's
Speaker 4: such a unique place and taking that away. It is heartbreaking. Um,
Speaker 4: make sure if you weren't already thinking of coming out
Speaker 4: next Friday, come out not only to support us and
Speaker 4: to support, uh, prop 43, but come support Angela, come
Speaker 4: support the pineapple Hill and, you've got any ideas, any
Speaker 4: connections on what we can do to save this business.
Speaker 4: I don't know if there is anything that we can do,
Speaker 4: but let's start thinking about it. They're going to be
Speaker 4: operating for at least the next month and a half
Speaker 4: or so. So get down there, go enjoy yourself, whether
Speaker 4: it's trivia Tuesday, wing Wednesday, whatever. I love that place.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you all love it too. Let's show
Speaker 4: them our support more than ever. Not only just for Angela,
Speaker 4: the bartenders, the waiters that work there, because a lot
Speaker 4: of people are going to be out of a job
Speaker 4: in just a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: 800-222-5222 is the telephone number. It is our pleasure to
Speaker 3: welcome our next guest to the program. She is the
Speaker 3: professor of political science emeritus at California State University at Fullerton,
Speaker 3: Professor Barbara Stone. Welcome.
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, John.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for being here. So I
Speaker 3: want to read a tweet for you and have you
Speaker 3: respond to it because I get a ton of e-mails
Speaker 3: from people in the city of Los Angeles who voted
Speaker 3: for Spencer Pratt for mayor, who now are looking at
Speaker 3: a November ballot that has socialist Nithya Raman and incumbent
Speaker 3: failed mayor Karen Bass on it, and they don't know
Speaker 3: what to do. The number one question I get is,
Speaker 3: can they write in Spencer Pratt? The answer is no.
Speaker 3: The city of Los Angeles will not allow those votes
Speaker 3: to be counted. So that leaves them with the question of,
Speaker 3: What do they do? Do they vote for Rahman? Do
Speaker 3: they vote for Bass? Or do they leave it blank?
Speaker 3: Here is what longtime L.A.-based Democratic strategist Michael Trujillo tweeted
Speaker 3: on that subject. Quote, the race for mayor of Los
Speaker 3: Angeles will be decided by all of us for sure
Speaker 3: in L.A., but the San Fernando Valley, like it or not,
Speaker 3: is the swing vote. And it's not the first time
Speaker 3: they've had this position. In 2005, former Valley Assemblyman, soon-to-be
Speaker 3: state senator Bob Hertzberg, came in third and supported former
Speaker 3: ACLU president Antonio Villaraigosa for mayor, which brought out the
Speaker 3: Valley vote for him. Fast forward to 2013, Kevin James,
Speaker 3: a local talk radio host, formerly with KABC, came in
Speaker 3: third with his base being Republican voters in the San
Speaker 3: Fernando Valley. He endorsed Rhodes Scholar Eric Garcetti for mayor.
Speaker 3: which put him over the top. You may not like it,
Speaker 3: but the reality is reality star Spencer Pratt and his
Speaker 3: base vote in the San Fernando Valley is key to
Speaker 3: whoever becomes mayor this year. This is a nonpartisan race,
Speaker 3: not a Democratic primary.
Speaker 6: And so you're going down the road. What do you
Speaker 6: do if you... are an L.A. voter and are not
Speaker 6: totally nuts, right?
Speaker 3: Pretty much.
Speaker 6: Okay, I have a question before I offer up a...
Speaker 6: All I can do is tell you what I would
Speaker 6: seriously consider doing, and by the way, what I seriously
Speaker 6: consider doing was never living in that city. Actually, excuse me,
Speaker 6: never owning property in that city. Actually, has Spencer Pratt
Speaker 6: said anything?
Speaker 3: He has attacked both of the candidates and says he
Speaker 3: has information on one of the two that will destroy
Speaker 3: their political career that he's going to release after the election.
Speaker 6: That's interesting. So he's looking to thinking maybe there'll be a,
Speaker 6: be a vacancy or something like that. Fine. Then he's
Speaker 6: playing that game. But from his point of view, there's
Speaker 6: nothing to be gained by supporting one or the other. Um,
Speaker 6: I will go back in the two cases Trujillo was
Speaker 6: talking about. Actually, while neither of those were particularly good
Speaker 6: mayors compared to what's on the ballot this time, man,
Speaker 6: they were models of sanity. I guess if I didn't
Speaker 6: already know that Karen Bass is... Really, really stupid. Well,
Speaker 6: that bothers me. You know, at least Garcetti was not stupid.
Speaker 6: Antonio was not stupid. This woman is. And so you
Speaker 6: can't expect anything good out of her. And interestingly enough,
Speaker 6: I've paid enough attention to the ramen woman. Man, this
Speaker 6: is called a race to the bottom. So it's the, John,
Speaker 6: what I think I would do, I never don't vote,
Speaker 6: if that makes any sense. It just somehow, I know
Speaker 6: they won't count it. I probably would go vote and
Speaker 6: vote for Spencer Pratt anyway.
Speaker 3: Here's the way I see it. Under no circumstances would
Speaker 3: I ever vote for a DSA candidate. I just wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I believe in capitalism.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that takes care of that.
Speaker 3: Private property rights, public safety, which means you can't vote
Speaker 3: for them. So Rahman's a no-go, which means you're left
Speaker 3: with two options. You can vote for the failed mayor,
Speaker 3: or you can leave the ballot blank. And it kind
Speaker 3: of puts Pratt voters in the old life jacket ethical dilemma,
Speaker 3: where you're on the boat with a limited number of
Speaker 3: life jackets, and one of the people in the water
Speaker 3: is Karen Bass. And the question is, do you turn
Speaker 3: around and go to Ghana because the fire chief never
Speaker 3: told you the surf would be high?
Speaker 6: You're hitting on something that seems to me unbelievably relevant,
Speaker 6: that you go, well, surely she would be better than
Speaker 6: a democratic socialist. Hmm, maybe. But in terms of anything
Speaker 6: that local government is supposed to be doing..
Speaker 2: Uh..
Speaker 6: And you just mentioned one of them Try Public Safety.
Speaker 6: She's a disaster. If you want to vote for her
Speaker 6: on the basis that you just can't give the DSA
Speaker 6: a victory here, and after all, I really don't want
Speaker 6: government-run grocery stores, then you can justify it on the
Speaker 6: basis but i'm not going to guarantee you it's going
Speaker 6: to stay this way that at least she hired a
Speaker 6: decent police chief and while they may not be building
Speaker 6: the department at least she hasn't abolished it and so
Speaker 6: maybe she's not quite as well the other one's going
Speaker 6: to be horrible and and whether or not bath she
Speaker 6: won't improve don't fool yourself But if you can go, well,
Speaker 6: I can look at that little corner. I can look
Speaker 6: at a few other corners. Just don't go near Boyle Heights.
Speaker 6: I can justify voting for her, but it really, really,
Speaker 6: really wouldn't make me happy. Anyhow.
Speaker 3: Let's shift gears.
Speaker 6: Let me do one last thing. Part of it where
Speaker 6: I suspect but do not know, really don't know, is
Speaker 6: that there was room here for Bass to reach out
Speaker 6: to at least some Pratt voters about going vote for me.
Speaker 6: I'm not as awful as she is. Now, this is
Speaker 6: where my knowledge is limited, but I saw no sign
Speaker 6: of that. So that's no sign that she's planning on reforming. Okay,
Speaker 6: shift gears.
Speaker 3: What you said is correct. I asked Roxanne Hogue, who's
Speaker 3: the chairwoman of the L.A. County Republican Party, if Bass
Speaker 3: has reached out to her. She said no.
Speaker 6: Okay, you do not reward that. I'm sorry, John. I'm
Speaker 6: going to sound weird, but you don't reward that.
Speaker 8: Okay, hi.
Speaker 6: What other topic do we have?
Speaker 3: Okay, so last week I had Chuck Todd on, formerly
Speaker 3: of Meet the Press, and... I talked to him about
Speaker 3: the race in San Francisco to replace Nancy Pelosi. And
Speaker 3: he said Nancy Pelosi is one of the shrewdest political
Speaker 3: operators that he's ever seen in Washington, D.C., and the
Speaker 3: MVP for the Democratic Party for years and years and years.
Speaker 3: That being said, her biggest character flaw is if you
Speaker 3: wrong her, she will remember it for the rest of
Speaker 3: her life In fact, it might be the only thing
Speaker 3: that she thinks about when your name comes up, and
Speaker 3: she cannot get beyond that. And at some point in
Speaker 3: his past, he said that he had offended her, and
Speaker 3: he's run into that kind of trouble with her himself.
Speaker 3: When I asked him about what she's doing in San
Speaker 3: Francisco this time around, because she does not like Scott Weiner.
Speaker 3: Scott Weiner, the state senator who's running to replace her,
Speaker 3: announced that he was running before she said she wasn't
Speaker 3: seeking another term. She wanted to hand the seat off
Speaker 3: to her daughter. I guess his poll numbers were strong enough,
Speaker 3: his fundraising was strong enough, his endorsements were strong enough
Speaker 3: that led her to believe that she couldn't pass the
Speaker 3: seat to her daughter, which really upset her. So he
Speaker 3: is on Nancy Pelosi's list. And instead of doing the
Speaker 3: things that a former speaker, the first female speaker, would
Speaker 3: do for the last six months while she's on her
Speaker 3: way out, She is spending every waking moment trying to
Speaker 3: get him. And he said, Chuck Todd, that this is
Speaker 3: her spending her last six months indulging herself in her
Speaker 3: worst impulses.
Speaker 6: Why is anybody surprised? Seriously. It's funny how things stick
Speaker 6: in your mind about people. And I remember Nancy comes
Speaker 6: from a good East Coast machine politics family. That's how
Speaker 6: you play it. I don't actually think she'll cut the
Speaker 6: head off any horses and put them on his bed,
Speaker 6: but I wouldn't put it past her. Well, would you?
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 6: So what do you expect? Now, what Todd told you
Speaker 6: sounds like, well, she could be doing good things instead
Speaker 6: of this. Like what?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 6: Democrats are a minority in the House. They're hoping they're
Speaker 6: going to be a majority, but she's not going to
Speaker 6: be part of it. There's nothing she's holding together or
Speaker 6: doing or organizing. And I would actually think she'd stay
Speaker 6: away from the internal arguments over the Democratic Socialists. So
Speaker 6: what's a good party? political machine lady supposed to do
Speaker 6: you go out and you have the people who've wronged
Speaker 6: you from your point of view even i knew and
Speaker 6: i don't pay that much attention to san francisco politics
Speaker 6: even i knew that the word was all over she
Speaker 6: wanted to pass it to her daughter and when he
Speaker 6: got in the way fine but he better be able
Speaker 6: to beat her and i'm sure at this point it's
Speaker 6: him versus her and uh... There's some interesting things, John,
Speaker 6: going on in that party that are going to affect
Speaker 6: this over and beyond her. By the way, part of
Speaker 6: it is the wild anti-Semitism that's shown up in the
Speaker 6: Democratic left. It's been there, but oh my goodness. So
Speaker 6: I just don't understand why anybody's thinking this is newsworthy.
Speaker 3: Go back to that for a second, because the DSA
Speaker 3: is now on the ascendancy in that party. And they're
Speaker 3: winning all over the country. It started out in New
Speaker 3: York with Mamdani's election, but we've seen it happen in
Speaker 3: various House races across the country where wartime incumbents, including
Speaker 3: Democrats who you would not regard as a blue dog
Speaker 3: at all, two of them were House impeachment managers, went
Speaker 3: down in defeat to DSA candidates. We just had an
Speaker 3: election here in California to replace disgraced former Congressman Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 3: and the DSA candidate won that too. You mentioned anti-Semitism.
Speaker 3: Do you think that the anti-Semitism that had been bubbling
Speaker 3: around those circles came to the forefront because of the DSA,
Speaker 3: where I guess the DSA gave them permission to make
Speaker 3: those private conversations public and part of the dialogue in
Speaker 3: that party?
Speaker 6: I actually believe that, and believe it or not, Hamas
Speaker 6: invading Israel in the public way is what set this
Speaker 6: all off. But anti-Semitism, John, has been there in that
Speaker 6: party for years. I remember the not-so-wonderful Jesse Jackson talking
Speaker 6: about Hymies in Hymietown. He meant Jews in New York.
Speaker 6: On the left, for whatever reason... That's been there quite
Speaker 6: a while, but we'd have to be probably smarter than
Speaker 6: we are to go why invading Israel and killing and
Speaker 6: naming babies inspired the left to come forward and find
Speaker 6: it acceptable to be anti-Semitic. By the way, it's not
Speaker 6: only on the left, but they certainly are there. I
Speaker 6: think it's something that has been there and that popped
Speaker 6: to the fore because of what's going on in the
Speaker 6: Middle East. But I could make a big thing, but
Speaker 6: I don't really want to, about you always have to
Speaker 6: have somebody who you can blame for everything. And I
Speaker 6: think it was Hannah Arendt who talked about the problem
Speaker 6: with Jews since the Middle Ages is they are wealthy,
Speaker 6: they are obvious, but they also are weak, and people
Speaker 6: come for them.
Speaker 3: Last question before you go. In that special election to
Speaker 3: replace Eric Swalwell, the Democratic caucus from California, which is
Speaker 3: run by Zoe Lofgren, told the DSA candidate not to run,
Speaker 3: in part because they wanted to fill that seat as
Speaker 3: quickly as possible because the House is so evenly divided,
Speaker 3: and if it went to a runoff, the vacancy would
Speaker 3: last longer. Her response to Zoe Lofgren was, what's in
Speaker 3: it for me? And then she ran anyway and then
Speaker 3: ended up winning. What do you think those internal meetings
Speaker 3: are going to be like if they're telling people it's
Speaker 3: not your turn, don't run, and then they try to
Speaker 3: get a pound of flesh out of them, it never materializes,
Speaker 3: and they run and win anyway?
Speaker 6: Let's put it this way. I'm glad that's not my
Speaker 6: political party.
Speaker 9: Uh..
Speaker 6: We have our own problems but not john is going
Speaker 6: to be wild i've got to have one little caveat
Speaker 6: here because the people you were talking about the dsa
Speaker 6: people and i'll try to hurry who won mostly one
Speaker 6: in overwhelmingly cannot lose democrat districts and they will go
Speaker 6: there and they will join the squad all those truly
Speaker 6: rational wonderful people who are already there They will see themselves,
Speaker 6: and I think you probably have it right, it'll look
Speaker 6: like they're great philosophers or scientists. but they're out to
Speaker 6: extract all kinds of stuff. How important they remain, I
Speaker 6: truly believe, will be decided by the statewide races. The
Speaker 6: few of them where people associated with people like them,
Speaker 6: or just with Assange Piker, are running for, like, Senate seats.
Speaker 6: Let's use the guy in Michigan. If he can succeed,
Speaker 6: then they're just going to run over the quote-unquote establishment.
Speaker 6: But it's only in very safe districts. Actually, I recommend
Speaker 6: you go back and see the influence of the Tea
Speaker 6: Party and our party, and they'll have an influence, but
Speaker 6: it won't be nearly what they want.
Speaker 3: All right. We're going to have to leave it there.
Speaker 3: Professor Barbara Stone, Professor of political science emeritus at Cal
Speaker 3: State Fullerton. Thanks so much for stopping by.
Speaker 6: Always good to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: And tomorrow, the newest edition of the Accountability Podcast drops.
Speaker 4: Johnny and I are joined by Jennifer Van Laar to
Speaker 4: talk the tire thing, Gavin Newsom's weird real estate deal,
Speaker 4: and the war on reporters in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: And we had Angela Marsden from Pineapple Hill on the
Speaker 3: program earlier today. She's going to host us at a
Speaker 3: restaurant in the San Fernando Valley soon. If you want
Speaker 3: to join us, please come.
Speaker 5: It's a week from Friday.
Speaker 4: Our live broadcast at the Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill
Speaker 4: might be the last one we ever get to do,
Speaker 4: so make sure you come join us at the Pineapple
Speaker 4: Hill in Sherman Oaks off of Van Nuys in Millbank
Speaker 4: on Friday, September 4th from noon to 3.
Speaker 3: Let's go to John in Pasadena. John, hello.
Speaker 10: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Great show as always. Randy, you
Speaker 10: may know more. I don't know, John, if you know,
Speaker 10: but Palermo's It was a business that had been in
Speaker 10: town for 50 years. My brother-in-law, Tony, just recently passed
Speaker 10: away July 10th while on vacation. But my point is,
Speaker 10: it was so hard for him to maintain that business
Speaker 10: with the price of, for instance, a case of tomatoes
Speaker 10: would go from $ 18. 22 to $ 85 to $ 95 and so
Speaker 10: on and so forth. But with that said, I don't
Speaker 10: know the people that run our governance here are even
Speaker 10: aware of it or even trying to do anything to
Speaker 10: combat that. I'm sure the lady from Pineapple Hill must
Speaker 10: know the margins involved today in restaurants are terrible. And
Speaker 10: that's why places like Little Joe's, the Derby, other Sate's restaurant, Baragon's,
Speaker 10: Michael's on Lost Fields, a lot of businesses has just
Speaker 10: gone out of, just can't keep up with it And
Speaker 10: it was a struggle the last three years, pronouncedly. And so, Randy,
Speaker 10: I don't know, had you ever been to Palermo's on
Speaker 10: Vermont and Franklin?
Speaker 4: Oh, many, many, many times. And, you know, Tony's daughter, Michelle,
Speaker 4: is a friend of mine. I love that place, and
Speaker 4: I was so sorry to hear about Tony passing away.
Speaker 3: They used to give you wine if you had to
Speaker 3: wait for a table.
Speaker 10: Well, his competitor, and I'm not going to name names,
Speaker 10: but you can figure out who it is, they fainted
Speaker 10: on him because it was so... it was so successful.
Speaker 10: There'd be anywhere from a half hour, an hour and
Speaker 10: a half wait, but it wasn't just the free wine
Speaker 10: is Randy. And I think, you know, uh, John, it
Speaker 10: was the food. Amazing, amazing food. And yes, Michelle, my niece, she's,
Speaker 10: she's a fabulous young lady. And I think the family's
Speaker 10: still reeling from trying to get through the, uh, it
Speaker 10: wasn't expected at all. It just wasn't expected, but, uh,
Speaker 10: he had planned on reopening this past 12th, last Wednesday. And, uh,
Speaker 10: It's a, it's a shame that it's, it's, we don't
Speaker 10: know what's going to happen, so I can just leave
Speaker 10: it at that. But Randy, I look forward to seeing
Speaker 10: you and John out of pineapple Hill a week from Friday.
Speaker 10: Thanks for taking my call. And, uh, I think my brother,
Speaker 10: Tony deserves a lot of, a lot of credit and I,
Speaker 10: I not going to go too far, but he had
Speaker 10: bass and Nithya Raman come in before the elections with Pratt. And, uh,
Speaker 10: as you know, my, my brother-in-law, he was a registered Democrat.
Speaker 10: And he ran for governor, by the way. But they
Speaker 10: came into his restaurant, and he had some pretty interesting
Speaker 10: things to tell them. He would always shake his head
Speaker 10: that we had an avowed Marxist and Basque and an
Speaker 10: avowed socialist like Nithya Raman actually trying to run the city,
Speaker 10: and neither one of them have ever run a business.
Speaker 10: So do the math on that or square that any
Speaker 10: way you can. But love your show. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 10: And I'll talk to you again.
Speaker 4: We'll see you next Friday, and John, we're so sorry
Speaker 4: for your loss. Tony was a legend.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Kenneth in Sherman Oaks. Kenneth, hello.
Speaker 8: Actually, I was going to talk, since you brought up Palermo,
Speaker 8: the one thing that Palermo has going for it, I
Speaker 8: hope they do reopen, is that I happen to know,
Speaker 8: I knew Tony as well, they own the land. When
Speaker 8: a restaurant owns the land, not just rents on the land,
Speaker 8: but owns the land itself, they're their own landlord. it's
Speaker 8: easier to keep the restaurant open. So I'm hoping because
Speaker 8: that I happen to know the Fanaras own the land that,
Speaker 8: I mean, I know they're reeling from his death, but
Speaker 8: I hope at least the family will keep it open
Speaker 8: or sell it to someone who will. My question about
Speaker 8: the Pineapple Hill is, if they have to leave, is
Speaker 8: she going to do like a GoFundMe to find another location?
Speaker 8: Because I'm sure they can raise a lot of money
Speaker 8: just from this show alone, and they could find a
Speaker 8: new location. And if all those other businesses are going
Speaker 8: to close, like the donut shop, will like In-N-Out have
Speaker 8: to leave there also, or because they're a big corporation company,
Speaker 8: that In-N-Out right by the Pineapple Hill, they'll get to
Speaker 8: stay there. What do you think is going to happen
Speaker 8: with that?
Speaker 4: From what I've heard from the people that work there,
Speaker 4: the In-N-Out gets to stay and everyone else has to
Speaker 4: get out, and they're trying to figure out what to do.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Angela has plans for anything like that,
Speaker 4: but the best thing you can do is you're right
Speaker 4: down near there. Go down there this week, hang out,
Speaker 4: say hi, and maybe we can start coming up with
Speaker 4: some ideas here.
Speaker 8: I really will. She really should start an In-N-Out because
Speaker 8: even when a business closes a location, sometimes people will
Speaker 8: create a GoFummy for a new location, like that restaurant
Speaker 8: Toy on Sunset as a GoFummy to save that restaurant.
Speaker 8: I can't imagine she wouldn't be able to raise a
Speaker 8: heck of a lot of money as well. And I
Speaker 8: just don't think it's fair to small businesses. Even though
Speaker 8: I love In-N-Out, the small businesses like that donut shop
Speaker 8: and the water place have to leave as well as her,
Speaker 8: but not the In-N-Out.
Speaker 10: Wait a second.
Speaker 5: Kenneth, Toy is going out of business too? I love
Speaker 5: that place.
Speaker 8: No, toys doing a GoFundMe so they don't go out
Speaker 8: of business. That Thai restaurant, Sunset Strip, they have a GoFundMe.
Speaker 8: It was on the news. So I figured if they
Speaker 8: could do a GoFundMe, she could do a GoFundMe for
Speaker 8: a new location if she's being evicted from the old location.
Speaker 8: I mean, GoFundMe has saved so many businesses, and I
Speaker 8: really think she should look into that more very heavily,
Speaker 8: and I think she'll find a new spot.
Speaker 3: What does that tell you about the climate in this
Speaker 3: state right now? Where you have to have GoFundMes for
Speaker 3: businesses to keep them around because the government is so
Speaker 3: hostile and they just can't catch a break any way
Speaker 3: they turn.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, it's just, it's a hostile climate to business.
Speaker 8: They need to make, you know, I support, actually, I'm
Speaker 8: a renter, so I support renter protections, but they should
Speaker 8: also have protections for the small businesses if they're going
Speaker 8: to have protections for the renters, have protections for both.
Speaker 8: And I'm really worried about this, that Scott Wiener guy,
Speaker 8: they're just going to just destroy small businesses and just build,
Speaker 8: you know, these apartments everywhere and not even, you know,
Speaker 8: affordable apartments, but $ 8, 000 a month apartments. It's really changed
Speaker 8: the character of Los Angeles. I'm a fourth generation Los Angelino,
Speaker 8: and it's hurting me what's happening to my city, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame. They're destroying it. Thank you for
Speaker 3: the call, sir. Let's go to Scott in Studio City. Scott, hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, guys. How are you?
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was thinking about this. Would you guys
Speaker 2: agree that it was probably the late 80s, early 90s
Speaker 2: where things in L.A. really took a dump? I mean,
Speaker 2: the overall feel of the city, the fun, the excitement.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember the French Marketplace on Laurel, Santa Monica,
Speaker 2: Ben Frank's Coffee Shop, TikTok on Coinga, Shakers in Glendale. Shakers,
Speaker 2: where I used to see Larry Elder, of all guys,
Speaker 2: at the coffee shop at Shakers. You guys remember these places?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The French Market was huge for
Speaker 3: brunch on Sundays.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: And I think they were owned by the same owner,
Speaker 2: Ben Franks on Sunset. I heard that back then. But yeah,
Speaker 2: how about Greenblatt's Deli? They died during COVID.
Speaker 5: 100 years.
Speaker 2: One of the best delis I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 2: Saw more celebrities there than on TV. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: But I just want to say thank you. You guys,
Speaker 2: you're talking about all this stuff and you're stirring up
Speaker 2: feelings and emotions inside and everybody's getting amped up. And
Speaker 2: I i actually got tears in my eyes listening to
Speaker 2: angela so yeah anyway i that's it thanks guys i
Speaker 2: really love your.
Speaker 3: Show well thank you for the call i appreciate it
Speaker 3: he said the 1980s when was when things started going downhill.
Speaker 5: So when i was born.
Speaker 3: You were the Grim Reaper, let's just face it. But
Speaker 3: I think what happened is that when the Cold War
Speaker 3: ended and all the military bases started closing and the
Speaker 3: defense industry started moving out and the aerospace industry started
Speaker 3: moving out, that's when things started to decline. And then
Speaker 3: it was the dot-com boom that saved us, but that
Speaker 3: was more centered in Northern California and Southern California, but
Speaker 3: we all reaped the benefits because the state was flush
Speaker 3: with money and people were doing well and people were
Speaker 3: paying capital gains taxes. All these jobs started popping up
Speaker 3: in the tech world that never existed before. And that
Speaker 3: kind of saved us. And in Los Angeles with Dick
Speaker 3: Reardon's election and with LA Live and Staples Center and
Speaker 3: the Disney Concert Hall and everything that popped up downtown,
Speaker 3: that gave people a jolt of B-12 that made people
Speaker 3: happy to live here again and things I thought were
Speaker 3: moving along swimmingly for a while until we started decriminalizing drugs.
Speaker 3: When we started decriminalizing drugs and 47, 57 prison realignment,
Speaker 3: all of those things, that's when things started to go
Speaker 3: to hell again. That's when you notice the encampments. That's
Speaker 3: when you notice the retail theft. That's when suddenly the,
Speaker 3: physical appearance of the state started to degrade. That's when
Speaker 3: you noticed the trash everywhere and they just stopped caring.
Speaker 3: And it seems like COVID accelerated that. And COVID was
Speaker 3: particularly hard on the school kids and was particularly hard
Speaker 3: on the restaurants. It hit those two groups harder than
Speaker 3: just about anyone. And the restaurants clearly haven't recovered yet.
Speaker 4: It changed so many people's behavior where so many people
Speaker 4: were used to going out. Some people still don't, and
Speaker 4: maybe they're addicted to DoorDash, and you think that helps
Speaker 4: the restaurants. It doesn't because a lot of restaurants lose
Speaker 4: money on DoorDash.
Speaker 5: It's just it is.
Speaker 4: Becoming harder and harder and harder, and the city and
Speaker 4: the county and the state are nowhere to help these
Speaker 4: businesses thrive. They just figure out ways to make it
Speaker 4: harder and harder and harder for them to do business
Speaker 4: while making it easier and easier for competition like street
Speaker 4: vendors to do whatever the hell they want.
Speaker 3: All right, when we return, we're going to tell you
Speaker 3: about Gavin Newsom selling his house. Where is Robin Leach
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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom has announced that he is selling his house
Speaker 3: in the Sacramento area. And I mentioned Robin Leach before,
Speaker 3: who was the host of the Lifestyles of the Rich
Speaker 3: and Famous. You know, for the longest time, Randy, I
Speaker 3: thought he was some rich guy. And then I found
Speaker 3: out through my friend Mike Walker, who was the gossip
Speaker 3: editor of the National Enquirer, that that's not in fact true.
Speaker 3: That Robin Leach was a tabloid reporter who got the
Speaker 3: hosting gig on that show. Oh, my.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Did not know that.
Speaker 4: Well, for more on Gavin selling his place for seven
Speaker 4: and a half mil, well, if that's what he thinks
Speaker 4: he can get for it, here is CBS News in Sacramento.
Speaker 11: Governor Newsom on the move. Before he sets his sights
Speaker 11: on the White House, he's selling his house.
Speaker 1: A Fair Oaks mansion.
Speaker 4: Maybe you want to get the job before you move.
Speaker 3: That looks like a college campus.
Speaker 11: Going for a record high asking price for that area.
Speaker 8: $ 7.
Speaker 1: 5 million.
Speaker 7: That's double the price the home went for just a
Speaker 7: few years ago. Newsom and his family initially moved into
Speaker 7: the old governor's mansion in downtown Sacramento, as we call
Speaker 7: up our ARVR map here on the floor.
Speaker 11: So that didn't last long. So that needed too much work.
Speaker 5: That wasn't nice enough for him.
Speaker 3: Oh, no.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Only the best for Mr. Gavin.
Speaker 4: By the way, Gavin, who wants to go after all
Speaker 4: the people working remotely... Moved an hour away.
Speaker 7: So let's go to Steve Large now. We'll look inside
Speaker 7: the Fair Oaks mansion. Now up for sale.
Speaker 12: And the governor's home is tucked just behind these gates
Speaker 12: right here.
Speaker 1: It is simply massive with tennis courts and a pool.
Speaker 4: He's the governor. Governor doesn't make that much money. How exactly?
Speaker 4: I mean, I know the wife has money, but what's
Speaker 4: going on here?
Speaker 3: That's a very good question because doesn't he own a
Speaker 3: second house in Marin County?
Speaker 10: Yes.
Speaker 1: Serves as a reminder for the next governor.
Speaker 5: Plump Jack can't be doing that well.
Speaker 3: Must be moving a lot of wine.
Speaker 1: They'll have to do their own house hunting.
Speaker 12: Governor Gavin Newsom is saying goodbye to his sprawling 12,000
Speaker 12: square foot Fair Oaks home.
Speaker 4: How many families could we house in that one building? Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's put a bunch of bums up there with him.
Speaker 4: And notice how you don't see a lot of high-rise developments.
Speaker 5: In that area.
Speaker 12: Photos show the spectacular interior, including a 5,000-bottle wine cellar
Speaker 12: that doubles as a library.
Speaker 4: Well, we always knew Gavin had a little bit of
Speaker 4: an issue with the Alkies.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 9: I know their dog escaped one time and their daughter
Speaker 9: went to find it. And one of our neighbors walked
Speaker 9: them back to the house.
Speaker 1: Neighbor Sally Dunbar saved the letter.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this was in the middle of COVID
Speaker 4: where Gavin starts ranting in the middle of a press conference,
Speaker 4: how he and his daughter were going to his neighbor's
Speaker 4: houses asking for eggs and they were slamming their door
Speaker 4: on his face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they hated him over the COVID lockdowns.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 12: Wrote her that includes a handwritten apology for protesters who
Speaker 12: showed up on their block.
Speaker 9: Hard to read his writing. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: Hey, Gavin has a worse signature than I do.
Speaker 9: Sorry about all the disruption I have brought to the neighborhood.
Speaker 6: All my best, Gavin.
Speaker 12: It's a momentum that you could pass down and keep
Speaker 12: in the family for generations, right?
Speaker 11: Sure, yeah.
Speaker 9: This is definitely flirting with the very top of the
Speaker 9: housing market in the region.
Speaker 1: Real estate appraiser Ryan Lundquist is watching.
Speaker 4: What does this say about the inside information that, let's say,
Speaker 4: the highfalutin have about where the real estate market is
Speaker 4: going if Gavin's selling because he thinks there's about to
Speaker 4: be a big downturn?
Speaker 3: Well, it also leads to the question, how does someone
Speaker 3: on a civil servant salary afford something like that in
Speaker 3: the first place?
Speaker 12: To see how many possible buyers will try and meet
Speaker 12: the asking price for the Newsom home. The Newsoms bought
Speaker 12: it for a Fair Oaks record $ 3. 9 million in 2018.
Speaker 12: That record still stands as it now hits the market
Speaker 12: for $ 7.
Speaker 1: 5 million. This is outlier territory.
Speaker 4: There's California's affordability crisis encapsulated. The price of Gavin's home doubled.
Speaker 5: In eight years.
Speaker 1: People compete at this level.
Speaker 12: Newsom's home sale and move out of Sacramento sets up
Speaker 12: the revolving residence question.
Speaker 1: For the next California governor. Where will they live?
Speaker 3: Remarkably, California does not provide its governor with a residence.
Speaker 4: Why do we do that anyway for any of these
Speaker 4: elected offices outside of, I don't know, the White House?
Speaker 3: I think Karen Bass has the Getty house that she
Speaker 3: can live in, right?
Speaker 5: She does. But we could be putting up families there.
Speaker 1: And work for Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 12: Neither Schwarzenegger nor Jerry Brown owned homes in Sacramento. Schwarzenegger
Speaker 12: famously rented the top floor of the Hyatt Regency Hotel
Speaker 12: while Brown rented.
Speaker 5: What do you think was going on in that top floor?
Speaker 3: Lots of room service.
Speaker 12: Apartment in midtown Sacramento before renovating and briefly moving into
Speaker 12: the historic governor's mansion downtown.
Speaker 3: The problem is no one wants to be the governor
Speaker 3: that comes in and.
Speaker 11: Says, hey, taxpayers, buy me a house to live in.
Speaker 1: And so it's become a bit of a political.
Speaker 5: Like Becerra would.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. No, he has no problem doing that.
Speaker 2: Difficult.
Speaker 3: Uh..
Speaker 12: Question sally dunbar hopes whoever the next governor is they might.
Speaker 1: Consider making this their home to.
Speaker 9: Has a tennis court has swimming pool great neighbors awesome
Speaker 9: neighbors have to say governor newsom's.
Speaker 4: Spokesperson look at all of the recreation in that house
Speaker 4: that gavin does not use to spend time with his kids.
Speaker 3: And a massive wine cellar for a guy who went
Speaker 3: to rehab It.
Speaker 12: Says that the family has been splitting time between this
Speaker 12: Fair Oaks home and the Marin County home.
Speaker 4: Hey, another encapsulation of California's housing crisis. Highfalutin Gavin owns
Speaker 4: two homes.
Speaker 1: His term is coming.
Speaker 3: To an end.
Speaker 12: This sale was the next step towards transitioning out of
Speaker 12: the governor's office.
Speaker 4: So there you go. You got seven and a half
Speaker 4: million dollars. You can buy Gavin's house.
Speaker 3: He probably had to get rid of that before he
Speaker 3: ran for president. Because he's going to go to these
Speaker 3: southern states and midwestern states and try to present himself
Speaker 3: as the child of a single mom. from a hardscrabble upbringing.
Speaker 3: And it's going to be hard to portray yourself as
Speaker 3: that guy when you live in that mansion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he still has the other mansion.
Speaker 3: All right, that's going to do it for us today,
Speaker 3: but we'll be back tomorrow at noon for another edition
Speaker 3: of The John Phillips Show.