WEBVTT - Debra Saunders on the State of the Governor's Race 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.080 And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.800 on the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wanings in Culver City. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:11.000 John, residents in a neighborhood in Resita are being terrorized 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:17.080 by a naked man. Uh oh, we'll have more on 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.280 that when we open up the crime blodder later on 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.560 in the show. The Fruits out of the Loam. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.520 Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.640 the telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.360 two two two. It is a pleasure to welcome our 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.760 next guest to the program. She was a columnist for 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.200 the San Francisco Chronicle for many years, also the Las 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.639 Vegas Review Journal. She is now a creator over at 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.000 the North of sixty five Substack. You can get her 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.959 online at Deborahjsanders dot substack dot com and follow her 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.640 on X at Deborah Jsunders Deborah Sounders. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.840 Welcome, Hello, John Phillips. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:57.560 How are you today? 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.280 I'm good. Thank you so much for stopping. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:08.199 My pleasure, my pleasure, big day today, poets. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.280 Yeah, on the insurance crisis here in California. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.040 I know, I know. Good for them. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.119 Yeah, well they've been bringing a lot of stories, not 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.319 just that, but they of course had the first story 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.440 on Eric Swalwell. When that story broke, and we're learning 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.720 more information about what a creep Eric Swalwell was where 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.480 I guess it's now been reported that he used to 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.880 have his campaign meetings at Hooters, and he used to 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.800 try to get the young female staffers all liquored up 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:42.280 at Hooters on a regular basis. And Randy reported earlier 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.080 today that there are allegations that he is continuing to 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:49.800 intimidate some of the women on Snapchat. He's continuing to 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.000 communicate with them, trying to get them to zip it 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.400 so they don't tell whatever story it is that they 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.160 have to tell. And their unconfirmed reports, I guess that 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.800 there are going to be more videos with more lud 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.280 acts coming out. What a mess this guy was, who 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.000 operated in plain sight for so long. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.640 It really irritates me. So I left California in January 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.520 twenty seventeen, so basically he'd been in office for about 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.839 a term, little more than a term. I never saw 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.600 any behavior like that from Eric Slowell. It just blows 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.880 my mind that so many people came out later and 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.120 said yes, he was so blatant about it, and he 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.960 could have gone on like that for years and years 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.360 if he didn't run for governor, and people realized, no, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.680 he's a liability for the party. We've got to get 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:39.680 this story out now. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.880 It's wild to me that it didn't come out when 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.720 he ran for president. I guess there were stories out 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.760 saying that some of the women were prepared to come 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.639 forward and tell their stories when he was a candidate 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.919 for president, but he lasted for about a cup of coffee, 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.519 and I guess they assumed that there wouldn't be any 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:00.280 interest in it. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.320 But he was still a powerful guy. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.600 He was still a member of Congress, which is you know, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.760 I mean, there's a lot of power. You write the 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.079 laws for the entire government. And he wasn't just a backbencher. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.840 He was someone who was close to the speaker. He 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.520 was put on the impeachment committee. He was part of 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.000 the Russia collusion investigation. He was a fixture on cable news. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.960 He was a guy who traveled around the country campaigning 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.800 for other people. And he was able to do that 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.600 because no one blew the whistle, and. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.520 Because all he did was mash Trump. He was a 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.080 reliable person on CNN to bash Trump. That was his 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.840 whole stick, and he was going to try to ride 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:47.480 bashing Trump to the horseshoe and Sacramento right to be governor, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.600 which is amazing to me. You think that people would 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.120 want to have more of a you'd want to have 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.400 a workhorse for governor. You don't want to have somebody 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.480 who throws out a few good quotes on CNN, bash Trump. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.880 You want somebody who wants to get things done. It 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:05.680 blows my mind. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.360 That is such a good point because that is what 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.320 that crowd regarded as relevant, and everything else they regarded 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.360 as noise. And the fact that he hated Trump more 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.960 than all the others hated Trump, and the fact that 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.400 he was so out there in that regard they were 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.719 willing to overlook all of the other problems that he 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.440 brought with him, and. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.160 It almost worked out. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.000 I mean, if this story didn't come out exactly when 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.359 it did, I think this guy was on track to 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.120 be the next governor of California. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.159 And maybe you disagree with me. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.880 I don't know if this story were to have broken 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.440 after the primary, when he would have real estate on 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.520 that November ballot with a Republican, let's say him and 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.960 Steve Hilton, I don't I think their reaction to the 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.400 story would have been very different. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.040 They would hold their nose and vote for him, There's 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.320 no question, because I mean, after all, it's your guy 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.000 or the other guy, and we know that that's worked 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.039 before so many times. When the story gets out late enough, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.039 it is. It is amazing, though, that there weren't more 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.400 people in the party that tried to stand up for 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.440 the woman who had to deal with him. I'm disappointed 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.960 about that. It just when people started going on Twitter 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.440 when the story came out, saying, well, we all knew this. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.000 Well I said, I didn't know it. But if you 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.400 knew that, there might have been people taking him aside 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.960 and saying, hey, you can't do this anymore. Maybe a 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.680 committee assignment, taken away, something like that. But as long 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.719 as he got on CNN trashing and Trump, he was golden. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.800 It's sad it seems like that is a common denominator 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.680 among a lot of the politicians who I guess there 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.919 are open rumors about of having serious ethical problems to 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.720 one degree or another, where they try to make up 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.640 for it with their own side by going after Trump 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.080 as much as possible. We know we have an attorney 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.760 general here in California Rob Bonta, who is ethically challenged 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.400 to say the least. We know that Javier Bessera, who's 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.799 running for governor. I mean, Dana Williamson is on trial 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.400 right now and his name appears in those documents. I 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.200 think Michael Treheel of the via Gosa strategies put out 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.560 a tweet saying something like five thousand times, and it's 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.920 like they just figure if they just don't talk about it, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.279 and they just spend all of their time talking about 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.400 Donald Trump, which in a state office is not really 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.520 that relevant. I mean, if you're the attorney general of California, 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.400 you should have other problems that you're dealing with, not 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.840 participating in talking head sort of chatter about what's going 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.040 on in Washington, d C. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.680 But I do think that that is a. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.120 Way that they can deflect all of the criticism and 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.279 try to prevent these stories from coming out that expose 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.799 their own sins. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:10.080 You're absolutely right, and it's just sort of ironic because 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:15.480 again we're talking about California governor. This is a big jobs. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.160 You need to be a good administrator, you need to 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.600 know how to handle programs. And by the way, Javia 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.880 the Sarah has a background in that that's something I 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:30.080 know that he's pushing and I understand why. But elected congressman, governor, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.320 somebody who wasn't a big presence in Sacramento, somebody who 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.920 didn't seem to have interest in what was going on 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.320 in the state, somebody baptized speed rail, right. I mean, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.440 I understand California voters have been for it, but it's 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.480 just not going to happen. You and I both know that, right, Oh. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.480 It's never going to happen. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.679 And they keep giving updates telling us how much longer 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.480 it's going to be and how much more it's going 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.080 to cost. And I always tell people to figure that 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.640 in bananas, because apes will be controlling the earth by 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.840 the time that gets finished. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:10.520 I know, I don't know what the budget for that. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.440 What country could have supported itself on that for ten years? 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.320 I mean, how many, how many countries. It's it's just 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.600 it's it's astonishing to me that it's so clear that 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.320 high speed roll isn't going to make it, and yet 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:32.680 it's I would assume that if you know, obviously the 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.839 Sarah Winds or if another Democrat wins, they're going to 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.000 push this through, and this should be an issue that 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.800 I would imagine that, you know, the Republican candidates can 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.520 use against them if they make it to the final two. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.840 So tell me what's going to happen. I'm not there. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.480 Who's going to be Who's going to be in the 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:50.920 top two? 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.720 Well, right now, the problem is you have about four 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.720 candidates maybe five, who are pulling within the margin of 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.840 air of the top two slot us. So if those 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.040 polls are accurate, which I assume that they are, that 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.120 means there are any number of permutations that you could 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.719 see on the November ballot. You could have a situation 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.840 where the Democrats are locked off the November ballot and 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.720 you have a choice between two Republicans. You could have 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.240 a scenario where you have two Democrats on the November 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.560 ballot and no Republicans. You could have a Republican versus 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.679 a Democrat. Right now, I don't know. I can tell 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.360 you what I'm going to do as a voter, as 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.720 a Republican voter in California, and that is I'm going 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.880 to vote for whichever Republican is polling second, because which 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.240 right now is Chad Bianco. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:40.120 Even though I. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.960 Prefer Hilton, I'm going to vote for Bianco. Because the 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.960 Democrats have wrecked the state. There's been one party rule 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.400 in this state for a very long time, and what 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.960 did one party rule get us. You have to buy 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.760 shampoo from behind bulletproof glass. There are homeless people, not 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.560 just on skid Row but all over the place. We 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.199 have this idiotic train that is never going to be built, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.520 but we all have to pretend like it is. We 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.960 have a budget that's upside down. None of us can 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.400 buy insurance. I could go on until three o'clock when 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.160 they cut me off and Guy Benson takes over. But 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.400 the state government and the state services that we receive 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.880 is appalling. So I'm going to vote. I want a 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.200 Republican lockout. I want Republicans on the November ballot. And 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.560 because Trump got behind Hilton, I think a lot of 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.200 the casual Republicans are going to do what Trump wants 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.760 them to do and vote for Hilton, which means the 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.560 people who are paying attention I think should be voting 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.280 for Bianco. Because for Republicans, the best case scenario is 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.840 to come as close as possible to splitting the vote. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:42.400 Fifty to fifty. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.400 That gives you your best shot at having a lockout 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:46.040 in November. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:54.280 Okay, I will see what happens. I remember when Top 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.480 two first came out, there were a lot of question 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.839 marks about how it would work. No one ever imagined 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:05.560 could have two Republicans, you know, facing off against each other, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.280 which is you know, I don't know. I guess really 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.120 not a possibility. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.520 Like in dream, as someone who had a front row 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:18.360 seat to California politics, California government, where you did at 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.240 the San Francisco Chronicle, one of the biggest newspapers in 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.800 the state, and you saw a lot of these titans 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.400 up close and personal. You covered Willie Brown, you covered 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.400 Pete Wilson, You covered a lot of these people who 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.120 are in charge. When the state actually functioned before them, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.400 you had a different crowd. You had George Duke Magen 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.079 and you had the Burtons in San Francisco and that 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.360 legacy and Leo McCarthy and the rest. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:44.680 What do you think went wrong? 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.000 When do you think California went off the rails and 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.200 all of these smart people that used to run the 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.160 state have now been replaced by flakes who have the 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.760 ability to get likes on Twitter and to get bookings 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.840 on MSNBC, but know nothing. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:07.760 So when California was arguably as two party states. When 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.080 a Republican Pete Wilson Arnold Schwartzenegger could win and have 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:17.200 some leavening influence, that was great. But once you'd become 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.760 a one party state completely, that's when the nuts come out. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.200 That's when the extremists, when when the primary and you 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.240 get and and and let's face it, we're in an 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:34.080 era all over the country where cable TV is influencing 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:41.240 who wins, not necessarily who can govern, and so anyway, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.679 but I look at I look at a different time 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:51.400 and but but it's the numbers. You just can't. If 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.040 Republicans are going to be completely in the minority in 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.600 redistrict into you know, oblivion practically, then that's what you're 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.200 going to Yet and once it's all Democrats, that's when people. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.960 I look at Wiener, right, Scott Wiener, he was at 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:15.600 one time a really reasonable San Francisco supervisor, and he 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.000 was in favor of banning naked people in San Francisco. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.080 That was considered a very conservative position. But were the 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.679 rewards for that kind of position, And now we know 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.840 all of these wopie positions that these taken on social 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.840 issues because that's what pays, and I just think that's 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:43.600 that's the time we're in right now. I don't like it, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.720 I have to say. And I'm sure that there are 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 plenty of people who are listening who don't like Donald 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.800 Trump and feel that that's happened with the Republican Party, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.520 that the extremes have taken over too much. I can't 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.240 say they don't have a point. And so here we are, 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.920 there's nobody who really wants to come out. I mean, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.000 I think Javeabsarah is going to try to take that role, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.319 is a person who can get things done, and maybe 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.080 that will get uh, maybe that will get him what 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.559 he wants. I think I can't see Tom Stier going anywhere. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.640 I feel like I've been watching that guy forever talking 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.920 about how he's going to go after billionaires and it 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.120 just doesn't work. He just wants he just wants the glory. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:34.280 I don't see anyone going for that. Katie Porter, any 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.080 chance she somehow comes through. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:39.000 I don't think so. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.520 I was looking at favorability numbers a couple of days ago, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.760 and this is a deep blue state, and her unfavorables 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.840 and stiers were so much higher than even the Republican candidates. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.400 Her being bipolar has cut through the noise, and people 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.880 seem to understand that she's not a nice person. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.040 See, I thought, if you had asked me this six 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.840 weeks ago, I thought Katie Porter could really break through 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:11.160 because I think California Democrats in California voters hate Trump 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.680 so much that they want this whole idea of I'm 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.440 going to be the one who stands up to him. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.080 Now swallwell is not the person who's on CNN all 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.720 the time. I thought she could sort of naturally walk 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.280 into that. That's we'll see what happens in tomorrow night's debate. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.640 But I thought she would be more confrontational, but she 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.880 seemed she's to do okay. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:33.760 Well. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.080 Keep in mind, though the debate, Julie Watts of CBS 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.840 Sacramento was the one that she snapped at on the 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.200 video that went viral. She was one of the moderators 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.680 of the debates of that last debate in Claremont. So 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.080 I think Katie had to mind her p's and q's 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.960 because if she went off on the same person twice, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.560 that would be a real bad luck. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:01.280 Yeah, and a woman too. Yeah, I mean, I I 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.160 thought that again, I just thought she would. I thought 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:10.080 that she might really capture the anger in a way. Well, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:15.000 but Tom Steyer is trying to I don't know. We'll 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:20.400 see what happens. You know, you're talking about the people 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:24.040 who've had governing in California. Gray Davis was someone there 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.840 was a time when Californians were looking for boring. Do 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:27.400 you remember that? 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:32.360 Oh? Yeah, Pete Wilson was boring too, That's right. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.440 So Gray Davis and Pete Wilson were considered great governors 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.840 because they were boring. And I just sort of wonder 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.400 if that's going to be something that the candidates pull out. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:49.280 I mean, Steve Hilton is very good at communicating, so 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:57.200 I think that's his biggest strength. But it is and 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.240 I don't think he's going to say he's boring, but 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.800 I do think that that is an attack that somebody 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.119 might want to do. And again, I think that there 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.760 have to be some voters who are really angry about 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.520 Swallwell and the fact that he got as close as 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.639 he did, who may want boring. They may be something 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.879 that they decide they want it. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.840 You have moved your column to the north of sixty 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.679 five sub stack. It has to be a completely different 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.440 experience writing a column as an independent journalist for yourself 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.280 and not for a big city paper. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:33.200 How's that going. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.960 It's well, you know, it's I decided to do something 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.040 totally different. So I got laid off from my job 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.920 writing for the Las Vegas Review Journal on my birthday, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:50.520 the seventy first birthday. And I mean the Las Vegas 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.280 Review Journal was a great place to work. I had 0:17:53.320 --> 0:18:00.600 a wonderful experience there. I'm really grateful. But I thought, Okay, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.720 I've seen a lot of people, a number of journalists 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.879 have been laid off in this town around Washington, d C. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.119 And they all start substacks where they do this is 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.920 what I would have been writing. Well, you know, substack. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.240 There are a lot of substacks out there. And I 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.760 thought I'd try to do something totally different instead of 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.400 this is a column I've written before, and I thought 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.840 I'd write about something that really interested me a lot, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:31.359 which is aging. I mean, I when I go to 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.240 the airport, all I do is look at other old 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.159 people and see how well they age or don't. I 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.440 like to see how they dress, I like to see 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:45.800 how they move. I really like watching to see how 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.679 people move on with their lives. Do they Are they 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.320 graceful about it? Do they dress in a way that 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:57.000 works for them? Are they? And we all hope to 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.280 stay young as long as we can, right we don't. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.560 We all want to, uh, you know, we want we 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.919 want to we want to be healthy, we want to 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:12.040 look good, we want to be interesting. And that's sort 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.399 of what North of sixty five is about. It's looking 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.480 at how people who it's looking at it's having people 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.200 talk about what they find works for them. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:28.000 You can get Deborah online at Deborahjsanders dot substack dot com. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.560 That's where you can read the North of sixty five 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.040 column written by Debora Sonders. She's one of the best 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.840 in the business. Deborah, thank you so much for stopping 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.080 by today and learning us your expertise, and we'll all 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.320 check out the column at the North of sixty five Substack. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.840 Thank you so much, John it was a pleasure. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.160 Debora Sonders. Everyone. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.520 Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.440 telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.159 two two. 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Time for the California Crime Blodder. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.359 And today's first edition of the Blotterer involves a naked. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:19.680 Man, a crazy naked man terrorizing people in a neighborhood 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:26.560 in Resita. For more, here is KTLA, and yes, there's 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.680 going to be a lot of naked puns. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:29.440 Well. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.640 Residents in a Resina neighborhood say that they feel terrorized 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.600 by a man they claim has been exposing himself and 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:36.960 also making threats. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:42.760 Wait, that's not a crime. Yeah, it used to be. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.200 That could get you on the tex Offenders Registry list. 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.359 Making criminal threats no longer a crime, Flashing your you 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.960 know what no longer a crime. 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.960 And some residents say the behavior appears to be escalating. 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.880 KTLA's Chris Wolf has more now from Risida. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:10.760 Racial slurs, death threats, obscene language and gestures, and NonStop nudity. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.720 Now, wait a minute, I thought Spirit went out of business. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:18.640 Maybe that's why this guy's so upset. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:28.320 Racial slurs, death threats, obscene language and gestures, and NonStop nudity. 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.040 That sounds like the departure's gated Spirit to me. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.440 Neighbors say it's all coming from one man who lives 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:40.679 in a hell house, and now they feel absolutely helpless. 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.440 There he goes, there goes, exposing himself. 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:53.399 Naked and most certainly not afraid to them. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.080 I mean, you knew it was coming. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.480 There he goes, There he goes, exposing. 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:02.239 Himself naked and most certainly not afraid to flash a 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.639 full frontel for all who pass by his house along 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:10.360 Garden Grove Avenue in Resita. Neighbors reached out to KTLA 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.919 to explain they've been dealing with a living nightmare for 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.720 the last three or four years. 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.760 Wait, they've been dealing with naked man for four years. 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.440 What do you do if you're a realtor and you're 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.359 trying to sell a house in that neighborhood and you 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.520 have a showing, Well, they're gonna have a showing. 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:35.840