1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: There's no question we got the best in the booth. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: That's why Murf and Marcus catch up with Krouk. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Right now, right now on KNBR one. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: Oh four or five and six am, sponsored by Bigelot, 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: Grab a mug and t Proud. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Hey, it's a big old Giants party today because not 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: only the Giants get the win last night three to 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: two over the Padres, and not only do we have 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Dwayne Kuiper on his normal hit, but we get bonus 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Mike Kruco after yesterday we had little rescheduling, so we 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: get Mike this week on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, and 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: today being Tuesday, we got him right now after he 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: called the Giants win last night with Dwayne Kuiper Giants 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: three Padres to Tony Vtello's first win as Giants manager. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: Mike he joins John McGraw and Leo Durocher and Dusty 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: Baker and Bruce Bochi. That's pretty darn cool man. Good 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: on to Mike, how are you hey? 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: More thing? Mike? Yeah, And don't forget Danny Ozark. 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Come on, we actually mentioned Danny Ozark, believe it or not. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: So what was your reaction? I mean, there's a lot 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: they won. 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: Is your bigger takeaway that the Giants a scored three 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: runs and got some crooked numbers, be Land and Roupe 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: and the bullpen did the job, or see Tony V 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: got his historic win. 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: What was the biggest story? 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, all the above. You know, we always tell 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: a story about when I was in Philadelphia and we 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: were struggling to score runs and we had a bunch. 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: We had a reputation offense. We had Mike Schmidt and 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: Pete Rose and Gary Matthews and Gary Maddox and you know, 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: Bob Dernier and Manny Trio and Bodz. We had a 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: team that could hit and they didn't hit. And uh 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: so this was going on for like about a week, 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: week and a half. Pat Carrelis was our manager, and 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: then finally he called a meeting. And from the pictures perspective, 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: we're thinking he's going to go in there and just 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: you know, chew on the on the hitters, when in 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: fact it was the exact opposite. He came in there 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: and he said, you know what, I'm sick and damn 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: tired of watching you pictures mope around and walk like 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: somebody owes you something. You know, if we have a 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: problem score and run in here, why don't you take 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: on your upon yourself to go out and throw a 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: damn shut out. And then we all kind of looked 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: at each other, and you know what, it was a 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: great speech because that's exactly what you do. When some 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: part of your team is scuffling, You do what you 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 3: can to try and help it out. And from a 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: picture's perspective, when they're not scoring runs, early zeros are humongous. 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Landa Roope did last night. You 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: threw up six against the Padres offense. That's that's a 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: good offense. And he was he was brilliant. And uh, 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: you know the thing about him. You know he can 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: cruise through the lineup a couple times and all of 56 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: a sudden, when it starts to go weird, it goes fast. 57 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: And this is something that he has to prove upon 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: and uh, and he certainly didn't last night's ball game. 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: That was the key. And uh and he stood tall. 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: And that's how you you elevate, and you know, you 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: elevate in the eyes of your teammates and that comes 62 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: back to elevate you. And that's how you grow on 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the game. 64 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: Mike, we know how much this win meant for Tony Vitello, 65 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: but it also seems like it meant a lot for 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: the entire clubhouse and the entire team. Yesterday we heard 67 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: about the Tony Vattel Vaytello excuse me, beer shower in 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: the car after the game, Willie Domas gave him a 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: bottle of Asa Spade Champagne. Like, how much do you 70 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: think this is a relief for the entire team, not 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: just Tony Vitello, to maybe take some of that pressure 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: off the shoulders of everybody to get that first win 73 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: of the season. 74 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: Everybody who's involved with baseball ops from the team, from 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: the coaches, from the manager to the scouts, all the 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: way up the buster took a huge sigh relief last night. 77 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: That's how big that win was. And now it's no 78 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: longer an obstacle. Now it's been dealt with. Now they 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: got him his first win, and everybody just relaxes and 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: moves on. But you know the problem with that first 81 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: win of a season, and really, when you think about it, 82 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: it's pretty historical, and that Tony Battella came off the 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: college campus having no no professional experience, even as a player, 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: a coach or a manager, And here he is at 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: the big league level managing a game for him to 86 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: get a and that's that's a big deal. But now 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, everything is okay. We won that game. 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: And I always felt that the first game of every 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: year is a tough one to win. You want to 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: get that out of the way as quickly as you 91 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: can because it's an obstacle. I mean, it's it's an 92 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: obstacle right now with the A's they've lost four and uh, 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: and it just pollutes your brain when you're in that 94 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: clubhouse because everybody's kind of existing under a negative. And 95 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: once you can relieve that, then everything goes back to 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: a normal routine and you're off and running. So from 97 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: Tony Vitelli's perspective, I'm sure it felt good. It felt 98 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: good that the team just hazed them and did the 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: tradition of you know, dumping beers and shampoo and toothpaste 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: and mouthwash and just I mean, he got he got douched, 101 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: and it felt it never felt better. 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: So much fun to see the Giants actually ex hal 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: for once here and let's talk about how they got there, 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: starting at the end Ryan Wall, the Giants fans. You know, 105 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: everybody loves to everybody loves to howl to the heavens, 106 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: and Ryan Walker giving up a two run homer in 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: the ninth had people on edge. Tony V said after 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: the game, now that he got it done, and that's 109 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: his job. 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: He got it done. 111 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: You know, Brian Wilson, you guys invented torture, right, But 112 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: your review of Ryan Wilson's performance, because we had him 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: on in Scottsdale and he talked about all the work 114 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: he did on the mental side in the offseason. 115 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: He worked really. 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Hard on it and did a lot of time and hours, 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: and then he gets out there, he walks the lead 118 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: off guy. 119 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what you saw out there. 120 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: He got a break when Fernando Tatis didn't challenge a 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: two to one pitch I think could have been ball three. 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: But what did you see, Mike, What did you think 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: of his effort and what do you take from it? 124 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: Well, it's an issue. I don't think he's comfortable with 125 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: that spot, and I think that because of how big 126 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: it was to the team and how big it was 127 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: to his manager. I think that you know, he pressed. 128 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: If you look at him, and you know, he's really 129 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: unique because of his big crossover step. He's only two pitches, 130 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: a two seat basketball and slider. Period. When he's effective, 131 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: he's able to hit corners and he's able to establish 132 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: knee high location very very quickly. When he's not comfortable, 133 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: he'll miss high and then you know he's got sling 134 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: and he's got pushed in his delivery and he just 135 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: he's not letting it go. And uh and that's what 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: I saw last night. I saw that he was up, 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: he was all over the place. The only pitch he 138 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: could really rely upon it in throwing it too into 139 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: the strike zone was a slider, and that had a role. 140 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't sharp. So that's a that's a tough way 141 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: to go out there and try and pitch to the 142 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: top of the lineup of the padres in a situation 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: where you don't have command and you don't have one pitch, 144 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: and even what you can get over doesn't have a 145 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: lot of step to it. He got a break in 146 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: that two to one count to Uho Tatis a ball 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: that clearly looked high. It was not question. I think 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: they would have gotten that one of which would have 149 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: made it a three to one count as it is, 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: he got the two to two count, and then he 151 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: then he struck out tatise, and then you know, he 152 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: kind of relocated down around the knees. It's like, okay, 153 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: big out. He kind of relaxed. But then when Jackson 154 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Merril hits a home run, well right away he's back 155 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: upstairs again. So you know, you can see his release 156 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: being affected by the importance of the situation in the game. 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: And I don't think he was comfortable with it at all. So, 158 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: you know, how does this, how does this serve How 159 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: does this, you know, solidify his his claim to the 160 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: closer role. I think it's up for grabs because he 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: can't go out there and expect to do well pitching 162 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: like he did last night. He got by, he got lucky, 163 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, he has a lot to say, 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: a lot to say about getting it done, which he did. 165 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: But as they go forth, I think that, you know, 166 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: it's it's up for grabs. That role right now is 167 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: tentative at best. 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So we'll leave it at that. Like you think, 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of an open door going forward. 170 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: He can't go out there and pitch like he did 171 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: last night, I'd expect to hold that job down, especially 172 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: when you saw Keaton Winn go out there and just 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: be dominant and strike three guys out in a row. 174 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: And this is the thing about a bullpen, you know, 175 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: it's valatile roles change. You cannot be stubborn if you're 176 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: Tony Voytello or if you're the pitching coach that you 177 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: insist that this guy is going to go out there 178 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: no matter what. He hasn't earned that, so right now 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: he next time he goes back out there and he'll 180 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: be out there again tonight. If there's a safe situation, 181 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: he has to do it in a more convincing way. 182 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: And that's just baseball. 183 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: Mike, to your point, there were not only questions about 184 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: Ryan Walker heading into the season, but the insire bullpen 185 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: to be honest with all the open roles in competition 186 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: that we talked about all throughout spring training. 187 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: But you mentioned one of the big names. 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: Keaton Win has definitely been one of the highlights first 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: four games of the season, and even going back to 190 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: that series against the Yankees, the Giants bullpen as a 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: whole went twelve and two thirds innings, only allowing to 192 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: earn runs, so what have been some of those stand 193 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: up performances You mentioned Keaton win, but what have been 194 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: your takeaways from the bullpen that really has outpitched expectations 195 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: in the first four games of the year. 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, do you see that's a out pitched our expectations. 197 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: But I don't think they out pitched the staff's expectations. 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: There was nobody who was wondering about the arms that 199 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: were being named part of the Giants bullpen from the 200 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: coaching staff, and then they all thought, Okay, we're fine 201 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: now that we've seen him. Now that we've seen the 202 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: arms that have come out, and how they dealt against 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: the Yankees, and how they were last night, with the 204 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: exception of Walker, who you know, kind of stuttered a bit, 205 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: but the arms have been great. I mean, Killian's been fantastic, 206 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: bru Baker's been fantastic. All three lefties are throwing the 207 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: ball great, Walker, Gauge and and Barokie. I mean, he's 208 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: been a great act. We didn't anything about him, Well 209 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: we do now we like the guy. So I thought 210 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: that what we've seen has just been a huge, huge 211 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: part of what we can expect as this team goes forward. 212 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: What we perceived to be a little bit of an 213 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: inconsistent weaknesses. It's a strength. 214 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been great. 215 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: And we all mentioned Keaton Winn looking so good and 216 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: so we'll see what happens in these next couple of games. 217 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: Giants can get one of the next two and win 218 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: a series. In San Diego tonight, six forty Logan Web 219 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: against Herman Marquez. Did you have Harrison Bader in your 220 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: home run pool? First Giant to leave the yard? 221 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: Well, we shouldn't be surprised. He's got good power. I 222 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: mean he spanked that thing one seven over four hundred feet. 223 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: That's that's not a curveball, big hanging curveball right there 224 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: at the middle end. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Well he 225 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: expects to do that. What are you last years seventeen seventeen, Yeah, 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: but no, I mean, and he's a he's a I 227 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: think I like about him. You know, he's flattened out 228 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: his swing. There was a he had the uppercut that, 229 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: but he's worked hard to flatten it out. And I 230 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: think his natural swing is above the belt. I mean, 231 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: he's built for a high fastball, and that plays against lefties, 232 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: that plays against a lot of four seam guys. That 233 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: like to pitch across the letters. That gives the Giants 234 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: drew high ball hitter to combat those guys, I mean, 235 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: or if anything, you know, in the last couple of years, 236 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: at times we'd see, you know, a hitter that was 237 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: kind of the same up and down the Giants lineup 238 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: where they had uppercut, they had launch angle, but they 239 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: weren't hitting that high pitch. But so it's really nice 240 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: to have him in that lineup that he could hit 241 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: a high pitch or put a charge into a hang 242 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: and break the ball like you did last night. 243 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: By the way, I liked your breakdown of his whole. Look, 244 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: you said that guy might have been to a Grateful 245 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Dead show. 246 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? 247 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: I absolutely said that, and you know what, I stand 248 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: by that. So she's got two things, you know, lady, 249 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: does you have the spirit? He's got the color, but 250 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: he's got the attitude. And as you know, a Grateful 251 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 3: Dead is all about the y. 252 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: He got have spun a few times out there, but 253 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: he's got the rainbows going and all that. 254 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, I've got to circle back and ask you 255 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: about Landing Roupe. You mentioned him in your first answer 256 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: of the interview. But last night was the first time 257 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: we saw him back in the regular season since he 258 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: took a line drive off the knee last August down 259 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: in San Diego. For that moment for him to be 260 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: back out there to get the first one of the season, 261 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: and the way he did it too, he wasn't just 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: relying on that Uncle Charlie and going curveball, curveball, curveball. 263 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: He was mixing in the change up the cutter he 264 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: I did this offseason. Just what did you see last 265 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: night the breakdown in the pitch usage of a landing roope, Well. 266 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: Just exactly what you saw. I mean, he's got weapons. 267 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: And the thing about him is he's got big time movement. 268 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: At times it works against him because it can be 269 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: difficult to control because he's got so much movement. It's 270 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: a nice problem to have. But I mean, he's very 271 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: similar to Logan Web and that his strength is down 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: around the knees with the sink in the curveball, and 273 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: he's starting to learn to throw that cutter and the 274 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: for scene fastball above the belt and watching the Logan 275 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: Web and we all know what that has done for Web. 276 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: That's that's gotten the uh, it's given him a number 277 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: of things that a hitter has to concern himself with, 278 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: rather than three great pitches that are all breakdown around 279 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: the knees. That's the case. The hitter is going to 280 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: go up there and it's going to look low. He's 281 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: going to look for the knees. And but when you 282 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: can elevate, you can pitch effectively above the hands with 283 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: a cut and the fourteen fastball, well then you got 284 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: a different animal. So this is right now where Landing 285 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: Group is. He is learning how how good his stuff is. 286 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: He's also learning how to enhance the stuff that is 287 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: that is down around the knee movement, and he's enhancing 288 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: that by his ability now come up above the hands. 289 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he threw a couple of pitches last night 290 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: inside Jackson Marail that were cutters above the belt. There 291 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: were perfect pitches. He didn't have that last year. And 292 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: as he goes forth, you know he'll he'll use that 293 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: more and then he'll he'll see him pitch more above 294 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: the belt also with that fourteen fastball. So what he 295 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: had last night, I thought plays against any lineup that 296 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: I've seen. That's how good his stuff was. I expect 297 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: him to have a good year. I expect him to 298 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: win fourteen to fifteen games, maybe more. 299 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that would be unbelievably great. He looked really 300 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: good last night. I love the change up. Last night. 301 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: He was diving, guys were chasing it. It was awesome. 302 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: So well done, Land and Roupe plant the flag type 303 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: performance for him, and that leaves us with the last one. 304 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Mike is tonight's starter, Logan web and it's interesting. 305 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: I was looking at his performance against the Padres just 306 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: last year, so mostly the same lineup that they'll have 307 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: again tonight. Last April he had a rough one. He 308 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: only went five innings, he gave up five ernies in 309 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: San Diego. He bounced back in June with eight shutout 310 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: against this lineup in San Francisco, and then he faced 311 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: him again in August in San Francisco, got into the 312 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: seventh inning six and the third gave up four ernie. 313 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: So some mixed bag, some good, some bad. He's coming 314 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: off the bad inning against the Yankees, he's still. 315 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Coming off the WBC. 316 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of wondering what you're expecting from Logan websinight. 317 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: How does he attack a lineup that he's so familiar with. 318 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: And he's had sort of ups and downs with. 319 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: Well. I think one of the strains he's had in 320 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: his career is what he's done after a bad start 321 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: where he's giving it four or five runs, and I 322 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: mean he always comes out and deals. I asked him 323 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: about that last start because I thought, look, in my mind, 324 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm thinking they know what's coming. You may be tipping 325 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: a pitch. And he says, no, we've looked at it. 326 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: We've you know, well, we have a lot of guys 327 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: that do that very thing in the Giants organization, and 328 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm real confident if they have something because they're always looking. 329 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: And he says, we didn't see anything, and he felt 330 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: okay with it. He thought that his location to a 331 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: lot of the offspeed was up and that that, you know, 332 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: perhaps was something that if he had to go back 333 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: there and analyze do something different, he'd gone a little 334 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: more up above the belt and he would have used 335 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: more fastballs because of these base hits that were being 336 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: hit against them this last adding. They were off speed 337 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: pitches and they were hitting the first pitch. And that's 338 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: how you pitch. I mean, when you are confident arm 339 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: like Logan Web, your first pitch is get strike one. 340 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: So that's gonna at times be the best location pitch 341 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: you're going to see in the bat if you're hitting 342 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: against them, Well, you tip your caps to the Yankees. 343 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: They had a plan against them and they were going 344 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: to hit that first pitch and a lot of them 345 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: were sitting on off speed stuff. They had a lot 346 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: of first pitch hits and they had a lot of 347 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: first pitch on off speed stuff. So you analyze and say, Okay, 348 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: if that's going to be something the teams are going 349 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: to do against me, there's an easy cure for that. Now, 350 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: I going on their hands with cutter. I elevate that 351 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: four seam fastball and I pitch it a little bit 352 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: higher just to get them off what my strength is, 353 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: and that's the stuff down around the knees. And that's 354 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: how he'll approach the game. You know, when you play 355 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: up in the big leagues, you play against the same 356 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: guys and you're gonna you know, they're going to have 357 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: you know, fifty sixty sometimes one hundred and fifty game 358 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: at bats against that's just the way it is. Well, 359 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: you have that many bats against one guy, you're going 360 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 3: to know everything about the guy. I mean, you know 361 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: you're going to tell him what he had for breakfast. 362 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: It's by the smell of his breath and you can 363 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: know that. But it's it's it's really the chess match 364 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: that you miss when you retire. And this is what 365 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: Logan Web is going through right now. I mean, he 366 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: knows these guys, he knows what they're going to look 367 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: and they do know. So it just becomes a game 368 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: to you know, throw away from where they're looking at. 369 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: It mix things up. You have to change as you 370 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: grow in this game. 371 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, great analysis, great breakdown. Every is in a good mood, 372 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Mike tys one. So we'll look forward to your call 373 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: tonight and then we'll get to talk to you tomorrow. 374 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: I'll be here seven thirty. 375 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: All right, seven thirty and your signature tag out of course, Mike. 376 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Have a good one. 377 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: Got a bed there he is. 378 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: We needed the Ata Bay one for I do want 379 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: to use this time to say that free plug. All right, 380 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this. It's a free plug because 381 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: these people are being very nice. But when we talked 382 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to Dwaynekuiper about getting Tony V some bourbon, he said 383 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: in Marcus said, yeah, Tennessee whiskey, which was a great call, 384 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: but he goes, no, no, no, California, California. Was well, I'm 385 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna give a free plug to Matt and the group 386 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: at Lost Republic from Healsburg because they have actively jumped 387 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: on the situation. They have pursued it on the text line, 388 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: and they're now sending a case of Lost Republic bourbon 389 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: to Tony under Kipe's name. 390 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: To twenty four, really, mays blause us, So we want 391 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: to thank that crew, Matt. 392 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: And apparently they have a guy named Big Tone is 393 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: one of their sales guys. They got a partner named 394 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: Colin and an office lady Brian, and they all listen 395 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: to us, and so shout out Heilsburg Lost Republic for 396 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: jumping on the case. 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Free plug. 398 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: Oh, helly plug, it's a free whiskey. I hope it 399 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: tastes good for Tony. And yeah, definitely tastes good. 400 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: He said, we want to make Tony feel welcome. 401 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: There you go. 402 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Hell, yes, that's how you do it. This is how it. 403 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: Organically happens, everybody, This is how it organically happens. All right, 404 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: sam Ay make it eight to fifty. Matt barrows at 405 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: nine thirty cooler content. Next on these sports