Speaker 1: To the faithful, seth to dub Nation, and to those
Speaker 1: who bleed orange and black. Good morning. This is Murph
Speaker 1: and Marcus, Bryan Murphy and Marcus the water Boy Bouchet
Speaker 1: streaming live at twitch.
Speaker 2: Dot tv Slash the Sports Leader.
Speaker 3: It's a Thursday morning here on the Murph and Marcus Show,
Speaker 3: August sixth John Dickinson filling in for Brian Murphy this morning.
Speaker 3: And we did have a big show planned today with
Speaker 3: Buster Posey joining the show at seven thirty. Giants updates
Speaker 3: forty nine or training camp updates. But I'd be lying
Speaker 3: to say if there was not a bigger story in
Speaker 3: the Bay Area that involves us, my friends, and I'm
Speaker 3: talking to you the can be our family, because yesterday
Speaker 3: we got some big time news surrounding Greg Papa and
Speaker 3: Greg Silver. And I know that there are a lot
Speaker 3: of questions out there in our audience. Trust me, we
Speaker 3: have a lot of questions too, but there's no questions.
Speaker 2: That these are our friends, our.
Speaker 3: Co workers, our family, Greg Papa and Greg Silver, two
Speaker 3: the best guys that you could ever work with, two
Speaker 3: guys that myself JD. Walter behind the Glass John Joe
Speaker 3: Curley have had the opportunity to work with, to grow with,
Speaker 3: and to experience and to enjoy this thing that we
Speaker 3: do every single day sports talk radio, which is why
Speaker 3: it's hard to even think about talking about sports on
Speaker 3: a day like today.
Speaker 2: After we found out that there will.
Speaker 3: Be some changes on the midday show starting Monday, John
Speaker 3: Lunn will rejoin the family, a guy that we have
Speaker 3: all also worked with before. But the news that camb
Speaker 3: Are will be moving on from Greg Silver and reports
Speaker 3: and stories surrounding the future of Greg Papa as well. Again,
Speaker 3: can't speak too much about what we know here behind
Speaker 3: the scenes or what you know behind the scenes. And
Speaker 3: I do want to give a shout out to Derek
Speaker 3: Papa and Adam Copeland, who I thought did a great
Speaker 3: job covering the events yesterday on Dirty Work from two
Speaker 3: to six. I would highly recommend for everybody to go
Speaker 3: back in check out those thoughts by both Derek and
Speaker 3: Adam on the matter, because we're talking about the son
Speaker 3: of Greg Papa. Derek Papa really giving us all in
Speaker 3: insight to some of the things going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: But even without getting into too much behind the scenes, JD,
Speaker 3: I think it's just worth acknowledging our coworkers, our friends
Speaker 3: are can be our family, and how much we both
Speaker 3: love Greg Papa and Greg Silver, two guys that I
Speaker 3: know that you've had the honor the privilege of working
Speaker 3: with throughout your time in radio.
Speaker 4: Difficult day, unfortunately, in a long list of difficult days.
Speaker 4: And I mean these are two guys, Greg and Greg
Speaker 4: that I absolutely freaking love, absolutely both of them, I mean,
Speaker 4: Greg Silver, and they're there are the two of the
Speaker 4: guys that are the reason I'm I'm here even sitting
Speaker 4: with you this morning. You know, I'm the sports leader,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean as far as as Papa, I
Speaker 4: mean it's I've known the guy for twenty years and
Speaker 4: and work with him for the last fifteen and and
Speaker 4: just professional on top of professional, and you know, mentor
Speaker 4: to me, mentor to so many and and just an
Speaker 4: absolute freaking legend. So I I love and he's going through,
Speaker 4: you know, the battle that obviously everybody knows, and and
Speaker 4: I love him and I just want to send him
Speaker 4: all the best and admiration and and and just say
Speaker 4: I love you, brother. And as far as Greg Silver,
Speaker 4: I mean, he's somebody that that I met in my
Speaker 4: you know, when I came over here and we were
Speaker 4: paired together immediately for Dubzot and he was a producer
Speaker 4: and helping work through that show and helped launch that show,
Speaker 4: which has been incredibly successful, you know, to this point
Speaker 4: through the three seasons that it's been on, and that
Speaker 4: show wouldn't be possible at all had it not been
Speaker 4: for Greg Silver. And he did such a great job
Speaker 4: on that show that it led to his opportunity to
Speaker 4: work with Papa, And so I love both of those guys.
Speaker 2: I love Greg Silver to death. Man first class.
Speaker 4: Human talent and wisdom well beyond his years, and one
Speaker 4: of the hardest workers that I've ever had the pleasure
Speaker 4: to work with or call a friend. And you know,
Speaker 4: Greg as the og Greg Papa all of those same
Speaker 4: qualities in terms of he's wise beyond his years, even
Speaker 4: though he's got a few more years going. But he's
Speaker 4: also youthful and ageless and time tameless in so many
Speaker 4: different ways. And you know, part of my deal is
Speaker 4: just the ability to kind of get along with everybody,
Speaker 4: regardless of the age group.
Speaker 2: And the experience level.
Speaker 4: And I think both of those guys just exude, you know,
Speaker 4: everything that's great about about being in what we get
Speaker 4: the opportunity to do, and so I just love both
Speaker 4: of them and wish both of them the absolute best
Speaker 4: here moving.
Speaker 3: Forward, Yeah to Greg's two great guys. It's as simple
Speaker 3: as that, and the way that they were able to
Speaker 3: work through everything that they have done since Greg Silver
Speaker 3: took over for John Lund and with Greg Papa going
Speaker 3: through his battle battling cancer. We can get into his
Speaker 3: fight in what he's doing away from the microphone and
Speaker 3: away from broadcasting, but what he's doing every single day
Speaker 3: truly is an inspiration and the way that Greg Silver
Speaker 3: has been able to handle this entire situation from stepping
Speaker 3: in as a per to being an on air host
Speaker 3: and a producer at the same time. I know what
Speaker 3: it's like to be a producer. I was lucky enough
Speaker 3: to bring on a John, Joe Curley or young Tony
Speaker 3: or Walter behind the scenes to help me out. This
Speaker 3: kid was juggling a lot, and Greg Silver was never
Speaker 3: a man that relied on his last name to get
Speaker 3: him anywhere. He walked into CAMBR I didn't even know
Speaker 3: his last name. I was like, Oh, who's this new
Speaker 3: Greg kid?
Speaker 2: And guess what?
Speaker 3: He took on every single job, every single role every
Speaker 3: single responsibility, going through overnights till part time to dubzot
Speaker 3: with you, working late nights, to wake it up early
Speaker 3: in the morning, helping out us on the morning show
Speaker 3: as well. Greg Silver a constant pro and I know
Speaker 3: that this is not the end of his journey, It's
Speaker 3: only the start. That kid is bright. He was one
Speaker 3: of the few on air hosts that he's younger than
Speaker 3: I am. And I hope one day I can grow
Speaker 3: up to be as professional as a guy like Greg Silver.
Speaker 3: Like he's that kind of kid, He's got that kind
Speaker 3: of talent, and that's why i'd say, Greg Silver, keep
Speaker 3: your head up. Greg Papa, I don't even know where
Speaker 3: to start. I'm not behind a microphone if it's not
Speaker 3: for Greg Papa. You guys know my story. I grew
Speaker 3: up silver and Black, a Raider fan. I'm of that
Speaker 3: demographic where I might have to explain to the young
Speaker 3: kids that I grew up with Raider games being blacked out,
Speaker 3: which meant the only way I could digest football was
Speaker 3: through the voice of Greg Papa. So I was a
Speaker 3: kid yelling and screaming throughout my household touchdown Raiders, just
Speaker 3: trying to be my own version of Greg Papa. My
Speaker 3: first job ever in radio was at the Raiders flagship
Speaker 3: station here in the Bay Area. I got hired as
Speaker 3: an intern. I told my boss, I want to work
Speaker 3: on the Wielhouse with Greg Papa and John Lund. That's
Speaker 3: all I want to do, and for every day during
Speaker 3: the summer, I didn't make a single dime, But I
Speaker 3: can't tell you how much wisdom and knowledge and experience
Speaker 3: I was able to learn from Greg Papa himself. Fast
Speaker 3: forward to me working here at CANBR getting the opportunity
Speaker 3: to help out fill in sometimes host shows with Greg Papa.
Speaker 3: It truly check changed my life, my experience and how
Speaker 3: I view this game, this game as a broadcaster, and
Speaker 3: what Greg Papa has installed with me with his knowledge
Speaker 3: and his experience and just his overall vibe in his attitude.
Speaker 5: Like Greg Papa is one of the coolest guys that
Speaker 5: you can hang out with. Yes in and out of
Speaker 5: the studio. So I don't have enough time. I know
Speaker 5: we have four hours.
Speaker 3: I know we can react through it throughout the entire day,
Speaker 3: but just getting my immediate thoughts out, I can't tell
Speaker 3: you how much I respect both of those guys, Greg Papa,
Speaker 3: one of my broadcasting idols, and Greg Silver one of
Speaker 3: the nicest guys, one of the best co workers, and
Speaker 3: a kid that has a very very bright future ahead
Speaker 3: of him.
Speaker 2: H yeah, and you said it.
Speaker 4: I mean he is talking about Silver one of the
Speaker 4: most poised individuals, and I know he gets it a
Speaker 4: lot the wise beyond his years and beyond his age.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, dude, you call me down man.
Speaker 4: Like it's He's absolutely the best. And as far as Papa,
Speaker 4: I mean, both of those guys are a quality hang
Speaker 4: in their own right. But yeah, Papa and unbelievable and
Speaker 4: some of my fondest, fondest memories of working with Greg
Speaker 4: were just different times in different cities, frankly on the
Speaker 4: road covering covering teams and covering playoff series when he
Speaker 4: was doing dub stuff with NBC Sports Bay Area. And
Speaker 4: so I love both of those guys to death, And yeah,
Speaker 4: we obviously have to acknowledge that above everything else, because
Speaker 4: they're just, you know, quality humans, quality professionals, and I
Speaker 4: just I love them and wish them the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing but quality people and nothing but good things
Speaker 3: to say about these two who are going through a
Speaker 3: bit of a speed bump right now on both of
Speaker 3: their journeys. This is not the end of the road,
Speaker 3: of course, Greg silver bright future ahead of them in
Speaker 3: Greg Papa, keep battling, brother, keep fighting the fight blank cancer.
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. That's something that has affected
Speaker 3: all of us throughout all of our lives with families
Speaker 3: and relatives. So please continue your thoughts and prayers for
Speaker 3: Greg Papa as he continues to recover from this battle
Speaker 3: and from this journey.
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be tough, but we'll try to address it as
Speaker 3: it can be our family. Again, nothing but respect for
Speaker 3: the Afternoon Boys, Derek Kops the way they handled the
Speaker 3: situation yesterday. Heard Larry Cruer had some thoughts as well,
Speaker 3: So we'll try to We'll try to keep you guys
Speaker 3: in for him throughout the show. But as my friend
Speaker 3: Pauli Mack once told me the day after he got fired,
Speaker 3: the show must go go on. And that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: it's gonna be easy, and it doesn't mean that we're
Speaker 3: gonna ignore it and act like those things gonna happen,
Speaker 3: because we've all gone through these experiences together before with
Speaker 3: the Pauli Mack with a John Lunn with a Tom
Speaker 3: Tolbert with some of our favorites and our idols that
Speaker 3: we grew up listen to each and every day. But
Speaker 3: guess what, they're still a part of our life and
Speaker 3: we're still here today talking about sports somehow, some way
Speaker 3: because that's what Greg Papa and that's what Greg Silver
Speaker 3: would want us to do. We'll check in with Walter
Speaker 3: Kapa set that on the other side of the man
Speaker 3: that was behind the glass for the Pauper Silver Show,
Speaker 3: and we'll try to get you back on schedule talking
Speaker 3: about some sports. I don't know what you guys want
Speaker 3: to talk about, the Giants, you want to talk about
Speaker 3: the substation and forty nine er injuries. We'll figure out something.
Speaker 3: For the next four hours. It's Murph and Marcus with
Speaker 3: John Dickson this morning on The Sports Leader.
Speaker 1: Now back to murphin Marcus on The Sports Leader, streaming
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Speaker 1: Sports Leader app.
Speaker 3: We are back live on the MURFH and Marcus Show
Speaker 3: on a Thursday morning. John Dickinson filling in for Murf
Speaker 3: today and tomorrow before Murph makes his return on Monday.
Speaker 3: And not to riff too much, not to make this
Speaker 3: too lighthearted, but man, oh man, I got Murph knows
Speaker 3: how to plan vacation.
Speaker 2: I mean, geez, Louise.
Speaker 3: But here we are on a Thursday morning, trying to
Speaker 3: pick up some of the pieces. We just addressed it
Speaker 3: in the first set in case you're waking up the
Speaker 3: news yesterday, surrounding Greg Papa and Greg Silver, two of
Speaker 3: our favorite co workers, two of our favorite people, two
Speaker 3: guys that we have a lot of love for. JD
Speaker 3: and I both gave our thoughts, will continue to give
Speaker 3: our thoughts on both of these guys moving forward, because
Speaker 3: it just feels weird talking about sports on a day
Speaker 3: like today.
Speaker 2: And to day that we've experienced here, I can be.
Speaker 3: R before losing legends and icons such as Pauli Mack
Speaker 3: and Tom Tolbert and John Lund who will be making
Speaker 3: his return next week. But you throw on Greg Papa
Speaker 3: and Greg Silver and what their future holds and the
Speaker 3: question marks moving forward, because trust me, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of question marks. But like I said in the
Speaker 3: first segment, there's no question how great of people these
Speaker 3: two guys are, not just co workers, not just on
Speaker 3: air personalities, but people that you get to interact with
Speaker 3: every single day in a small, tight knit community here
Speaker 3: working at a radio station. It's not like we're at
Speaker 3: some law corporate where there's hundreds and hundreds of employees
Speaker 3: and we're renting out Great America to have a party
Speaker 3: or a business day or something like that. Like, No,
Speaker 3: we have three to four people per show, so you
Speaker 3: see the same three to four people every single day.
Speaker 2: And that's why it feels like.
Speaker 3: Such a family affair when you get to bond and
Speaker 3: experience and break each other's balls and talk sports with
Speaker 3: these guys on a day to day basis. And look,
Speaker 3: we're getting continue to talk to these guys and have
Speaker 3: a relationship with them, but obviously things are.
Speaker 2: Going to be a little bit different moving forward.
Speaker 6: JD.
Speaker 4: Coworkers rarely I feel like become friends, but Greg Papa,
Speaker 4: Greg Silver that they are not only friends but family
Speaker 4: for me, considering that the relationships that I built with
Speaker 4: Greg Silver over the last three years and the opportunity
Speaker 4: to work with him and Greg Popa obviously going back
Speaker 4: a couple of decades now at a couple of couple
Speaker 4: of different stops, I mean I used to I mean,
Speaker 4: the legend of Papa speaks for itself. But I mean
Speaker 4: I go back to my days working in Sacramento, and
Speaker 4: it was we were, at that point in time a
Speaker 4: Raiders affiliate, and I used to when I was a producer,
Speaker 4: get to book Greg and talk to Greg and you know,
Speaker 4: because we would have him on every week talking about
Speaker 4: the Raiders, the same thing, and so that those were
Speaker 4: my first interactions with him, going back, I mean twenty
Speaker 4: ish years ago, you know, and then to work with
Speaker 4: him at two different spots. Again, we love you, brother,
Speaker 4: And yeah, coworkers don't often become friends, but not only
Speaker 4: did these two become friends over the years that I've
Speaker 4: been with them, but I would truly consider them family.
Speaker 3: Yes, staples of the can be our family, just like
Speaker 3: our guy Walter kobble seta behind the scenes is a
Speaker 3: staple of our family now on the Morning Show. But
Speaker 3: for those of you unaware, of course, Walter was the
Speaker 3: producer for POPA and Silver before making the transition to
Speaker 3: the Morning Show when we had some shuffling behind the
Speaker 3: scenes here. So let's bring on my man Wall, who
Speaker 3: I know is going through it just like the rest
Speaker 3: of us. You can save the guest list. We'll hit
Speaker 3: the guest list a little bit later on, because there's
Speaker 3: more important news to get to than just a guest list.
Speaker 3: Walter my Man. First of all, good morning. How are
Speaker 3: we doing today? Man?
Speaker 2: I know it's a rough one and a weird one
Speaker 2: for all of us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing Okay, I'm doing alright, I'm
Speaker 5: doing alright. It was a rough one yesterday, last couple
Speaker 5: of days have been kind of a whirldwin. But but yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I mean to theiment sentiment that you guys said, you know,
Speaker 5: you guys covered it. Nobody wants to hear my thoughts
Speaker 5: on on on Papa and Silver, But man, I just
Speaker 5: want to take this time to acknowledge that I did
Speaker 5: have the privilege of working on the Papa and Silver
Speaker 5: show when it happened right back in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: or yeah, twenty twenty four, so what like a year
Speaker 5: and a half ago or whatever, So work with them,
Speaker 5: and all I gotta say, man, is I absolutely love
Speaker 5: an adore the gregs, Greg Papa and Greg Silver. Having
Speaker 5: worked with them, you know, day in and day out
Speaker 5: for almost almost two years, it made the It made
Speaker 5: this decision to come to the Morning show that much
Speaker 5: more difficult, right, I mean, I talk to you about it.
Speaker 5: It was hard, but I loved working with those guys
Speaker 5: every day, just to see the passion and the dedication
Speaker 5: that they shared day in and day out, and and
Speaker 5: what what what JD just said? You know, they're they're
Speaker 5: like family. I mean, we're co workers and we're friends,
Speaker 5: but it builds into more of that. Like I remember
Speaker 5: where we were a year ago, a couple almost a
Speaker 5: year ago to the day, you know, when the news
Speaker 5: came out, JD. We were down at at training camp,
Speaker 5: and that was a really bonding moment for for me,
Speaker 5: Silver and JD at that time. Right, So it's it's
Speaker 5: bigger than radio. It's bigger than just working together. It's
Speaker 5: it's family, man, And I love those guys. I mean
Speaker 5: sharing you know, moments that I have a kid now, right,
Speaker 5: sharing those moments with with Silver and sharing it with Papa.
Speaker 5: Like the dudes always hit me up, like pop a
Speaker 5: Wal He's like, he's like, send send me a picture
Speaker 5: of the little mofo, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 5: he's always hit me up. And ye shot a name
Speaker 5: from Greg not Christian. Yeah, well he he wanted me
Speaker 5: to make it was actually a talking point on the show.
Speaker 5: But no love those guys. Uh with with with all
Speaker 5: my heart and silver. I mean, what can you say
Speaker 5: about the kid? I mean, he came into a really
Speaker 5: difficult situation. I myself did not make it easy on
Speaker 5: him when that happened, but I UH learned to love
Speaker 5: him and and he earned my respect man. And he
Speaker 5: is one of the hardest, most dedicated workers out there.
Speaker 5: And I know that he's going to do great things.
Speaker 2: Well said Walter. Well said, And I'd say the only thing.
Speaker 3: I disagree with is your first statement saying nobody wants
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts on Pop and Silver. Everybody wants
Speaker 3: to hear him. I want to hear him. The audience
Speaker 3: wants to hear it. You know why, because they're part
Speaker 3: of the family too. And that's the thing that I
Speaker 3: think we forget a lot here doing radio. It's actually
Speaker 3: some of the best advice ever got from Murph and Mac.
Speaker 3: Once they put me on the air for the first time.
Speaker 3: Poy Max said, look just look at me, Look at Murph,
Speaker 3: look at Cokes. Behind the scene, it's just the four
Speaker 3: of us in the room having a good time. If
Speaker 3: we're laughing, if we're entertaining each other. Guess what other
Speaker 3: people are going to be entertained. But then you leave
Speaker 3: the studio and you go out to the ballpark and
Speaker 3: you run into people who say, Hey, you're a part
Speaker 3: of my morning routine. I listen to you guys every
Speaker 3: single day, and just like we're.
Speaker 2: Part of their routine. So we're Papa in Silver.
Speaker 5: So these are people who have part of their lives
Speaker 5: invested in all of us, which is crazy to even
Speaker 5: think about, but it just kind of represents what we
Speaker 5: all are JD. One big family, even if we are
Speaker 5: a little dysfunctional at time.
Speaker 3: We all have our flaws, but we're all in this together.
Speaker 3: And that's why everybody cares so deeply about the futures
Speaker 3: of guys like Greg Papa and Greg Silver.
Speaker 2: No question.
Speaker 4: And I'm partial again to both of those guys because
Speaker 4: they're the two guys, frankly, that I've worked the most
Speaker 4: with among any you know, anybody here over there over
Speaker 4: the time, going going back to my time, as I say,
Speaker 4: in a different radio life and place before I came
Speaker 4: to these Sports Leader in working with Greg and obviously
Speaker 4: being paired with Greg Silver at the beginning here and
Speaker 4: and you know, I've spent most of my time when
Speaker 4: I've been hosting and filling in in my utility role
Speaker 4: in in that slot, whether it was with Greg, or
Speaker 4: with lund Or or with with with Papa, with Silver
Speaker 4: like all the like and and obviously the you know,
Speaker 4: being able to hold it down for him during during
Speaker 4: his battle.
Speaker 2: So I've grown especially close.
Speaker 4: As Walt knows, even more than before with with both
Speaker 4: of those guys. So I just again just absolutely love
Speaker 4: both of those guys to death and just wish them
Speaker 4: all the best. And it's just a difficult, difficult thing.
Speaker 4: Just pros pros first class individuals and amazing talents, both
Speaker 4: of them in their own right, and the preparation and
Speaker 4: the hard work for both of them. Again, the og
Speaker 4: and the youngster on the come in g Silver, just
Speaker 4: two of the best of the best. And Silver in particular,
Speaker 4: you talk about it, you talk about a good human being.
Speaker 2: That guy is first class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's going to continue his journey throughout sports
Speaker 3: broadcasts and no question about that bright future ahead for
Speaker 3: Greg Silver. And again we are all praying for Greg
Speaker 3: Papa as he continues his battle to just basically say
Speaker 3: blank cancer man and keep fighting the good fight and
Speaker 3: keep battling. Greg Papa if you're listening, just want you
Speaker 3: to know we love you brother, Greg Silver you as well.
Speaker 3: We love you. You guys will forever be a part of
Speaker 3: our family. That can be our family and this weird,
Speaker 3: wacky world of sports media that somehow, some way, we
Speaker 3: still have a job to do and we still have
Speaker 3: a show to do this morning. So Walter, as weird
Speaker 3: as it feels que of those guest horns, we do
Speaker 3: have a guest list to get into today today's show,
Speaker 3: and it starts off with a pretty big guest this morning,
Speaker 3: right around that seven thirty time. If you're an avid listener,
Speaker 3: you know what happens at seven thirty on Thursdays.
Speaker 2: Walter, go ahead and give us that guest list. I
Speaker 2: thought you were just gonna do it.
Speaker 5: Buster Posey seven thirty, we'll be talking about Buster Posey
Speaker 5: talks about the Trade.
Speaker 3: Devil, the president of Baseball Operations joins us this morning
Speaker 3: at seven thirty recap in all of the moves from
Speaker 3: the trade deadline, and also to give us a look
Speaker 3: ahead to this weekend's Wall of Fame ceremony, where Buster Posey,
Speaker 3: Brandon Bell, Brandon Crawford, Joe Panic, and Pablo Sandoval are
Speaker 3: all going on the Wall of Fame.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to dust off my my Joe Panic
Speaker 5: twenty twelve World Series.
Speaker 3: Jersey all hell yeah, you should be wearing that today,
Speaker 3: tomorrow and Saturday one.
Speaker 5: I'm just not gonna watch it, all right, so I
Speaker 5: will continue to go cooler of content. At eight thirty, Aw,
Speaker 5: some good sound in the Cook Cook Cook Coola of content.
Speaker 3: We've got an update from Sean McVay on a certain
Speaker 3: defensive lineman trying out with the Rams yesterday. We can
Speaker 3: dive into that discussion, hitting us with more good news,
Speaker 3: and then Matt Mayoko at eight fifty. Hey, we'll wrap
Speaker 3: it up live from forty nine Ers training camp. Some
Speaker 3: more injury updates yesterday's surprise surprise with Matt Mayoko at
Speaker 3: a fifteen WHI should tell you that the guest list
Speaker 3: was sponsored by El Sorito Honda. More than just a
Speaker 3: car dealership. We're family and that goes for Greg popping
Speaker 3: Greg Silver as well.
Speaker 2: We are family.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll get back to some baseball, some sports,
Speaker 3: some Hagante's hot takes coming up next. As we mentioned
Speaker 3: Buster Posey at seven thirty this morning, what do you
Speaker 3: want us to ask the President of Baseball Operations.
Speaker 2: Eight away. Cambire is the number on the Sports Leader.
Speaker 1: Now back to Murphin Markets on the Sports Leader, streaming
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Speaker 3: All right, it is the Murphin Market Show on a
Speaker 3: Thursday morning, Murph on vacation, John Dick filling in today
Speaker 3: and tomorrow prepping for our interview in one hour this
Speaker 3: morning with the President of Baseball Operations, Buster Posey.
Speaker 2: And it's been a very very busy week.
Speaker 3: Hell, it's been a busy season for Buster Posey with
Speaker 3: the long list of trades that he has made throughout
Speaker 3: the entire season. Don't forget about the Patrick Bailey trade
Speaker 3: earlier this year that resulted in the number twenty nine
Speaker 3: overall pick in this year's Major League Baseball Draft.
Speaker 2: They turned that pick into Carson.
Speaker 5: Bohlman, one of the top high school pitching prospects in
Speaker 5: the nation. Also brought in Matt tugbut Wilkinson to re
Speaker 5: up and maybe reset some of that depth when it
Speaker 5: comes to pitching in the farm system. Then we get
Speaker 5: to the trade deadline and Buster Posey trade six different
Speaker 5: active players off the roster, including Elliott Ramos, Luisa Rise,
Speaker 5: Robbie Ray, Eric Miller, Tyler Marley, and Caleb Killion and
Speaker 5: got a big haul of prospects back. So I'm guessing
Speaker 5: that this conversation this morning is gonna be a lot
Speaker 5: about the trade deadline and the plan moving forward. JD
Speaker 5: and I guess the bigger question is is how does
Speaker 5: the plan in the timeline align throughout the organization. It's
Speaker 5: something that we've been discussing with the emergence of a
Speaker 5: guy like Bryce Eldridge at twenty one years old versus
Speaker 5: some of the veterans that you still have on the roster,
Speaker 5: led by Logan Web who's twenty nine, Willie Damis, Matt Chapman,
Speaker 5: and Ralfeldevers your big three that you have the Big
Speaker 5: three contracts locked into Jung Ho Lee as well, who
Speaker 5: was in his late twenties. I guess one of the
Speaker 5: questions is how do you mix and match and get
Speaker 5: back to that level of success, to the point where
Speaker 5: Giants fans are celebrating teams like the World Series teams
Speaker 5: that Buster Posey represented, the teams that he's gonna be
Speaker 5: represented this weekend as he goes on the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you address what could be perceived as
Speaker 4: two timelines that don't mesh together. Essentially, with some of
Speaker 4: the veteran players that are still under contract and on
Speaker 4: the team and as we've talked about in the last
Speaker 4: couple of days, would be on track to be starting
Speaker 4: players for this team as well, versus complimenting those guys
Speaker 4: with more veterans on other rosters, complimenting those guys with
Speaker 4: players from the system. I think how the season ends
Speaker 4: is probably a big part of that. Do certain players
Speaker 4: force themselves into the conversation for next year, but then also.
Speaker 2: Having the focus on.
Speaker 4: The player development of a lot of the young players
Speaker 4: that are already in the system were drafted here within
Speaker 4: the last month and or traded for here within the
Speaker 4: last few days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's that kind of mix because we've already
Speaker 3: seen it in the first couple of days since the
Speaker 3: trade deadline, some younger guys getting the opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 3: you take a look at the box score from the
Speaker 3: last couple of days and it looks like a spring
Speaker 3: training box score with some names that maybe you don't
Speaker 3: even recognize. And then you go down deeper in the
Speaker 3: box score and you see names like Blade Tidwell, who
Speaker 3: was a part of the return package from last year's
Speaker 3: trade deadline, already making contributions at the major league level.
Speaker 3: Carson Wasn't got to start yesterday. Not his greatest outing
Speaker 3: back to back bad starts for Carson wasn't Hunt. But
Speaker 3: that's a guy that I still think is gonna get
Speaker 3: a bit of a leash moving forward, just to see
Speaker 3: what you have, because it feels like that's what you
Speaker 3: need to determine. Who are the guys that you can
Speaker 3: go into battle next year? Who are the guys that
Speaker 3: can contribute to a major league roster, regardless if it's
Speaker 3: in the starting rotation or out of the bullpen, or
Speaker 3: if it's a piece that you might potentially move this offseason.
Speaker 3: I think that's one of these surrounding questions still from
Speaker 3: this trade deadline. When you have these contracts, how much
Speaker 3: does that hamper you moving forward? Does this handcuff you
Speaker 3: when it comes to shelling out more money potentially next year?
Speaker 3: Does it also stop you maybe if there's a work
Speaker 3: stoppage next year? Like how do those things also factor
Speaker 3: into the big plan. It does seem like there's an
Speaker 3: actual direction that the Giants are going after selling off
Speaker 3: at this year's trade deadline, but there are still so
Speaker 3: many questions about how do you actually fix it and
Speaker 3: how do you actually get back to winning JD. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think what's the goal for twenty twenty seven is
Speaker 3: probably the simplest way to put it as things stand here,
Speaker 3: with twenty twenty six on August sixth appearing to be lost,
Speaker 3: essentially not appearing. I think it is at this point, barring,
Speaker 3: you know, some kind of miracle winning streak that would
Speaker 3: be an all timer very open, you know, Buster's been
Speaker 3: very open about being willing to listen to offers on
Speaker 3: everybody on the roster, So I think that's something that's
Speaker 3: interesting to me. How much is a potential labor stoppage
Speaker 3: factor in Like is that something that's been discussed internally?
Speaker 3: Like are there initial plans in place for different lengths
Speaker 3: of the season potentially if it's the full one sixty two,
Speaker 3: is there sort of a plan for that, If it's
Speaker 3: one hundred games, is there a plan for that, if
Speaker 3: it's eighty, if it's less than that, like, sort of
Speaker 3: what is the plan as far as attempting to compete
Speaker 3: in what ways?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: Again, adding veterans to veterans or adding more young players
Speaker 4: around the veterans that you currently have and still augmenting
Speaker 4: two to three years down the line as your primary focus,
Speaker 4: even in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think with the mix of younger and
Speaker 3: older players on the roster right now, maybe we see
Speaker 3: a different version of Tony Vitelo. I mean, we've talked
Speaker 3: about this topic before about whether or not he's better
Speaker 3: off with a younger roster and maybe being able to
Speaker 3: connect to younger players. Now that's not saying that Tony
Speaker 3: can't connect to the older players. I mean he did
Speaker 3: take an international trip this past offseason with Junghu Lee
Speaker 3: and Willie Domis and their trip to South Korea, and
Speaker 3: it seemed like they had a great bonding experience. It
Speaker 3: still didn't result in wins at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: but I think that's still part of the process too,
Speaker 3: is how do you evaluate Tony with this roster moving forward,
Speaker 3: Because we know on paper it's your best roster, it's
Speaker 3: a roster that looks a lot different than opening day. Now, again,
Speaker 3: these might be some of the pieces that Tony will
Speaker 3: work with moving forward. If Tony does end up returning
Speaker 3: next year, which it feels like now with this direction
Speaker 3: that they're going admitting some of their faults, is it
Speaker 3: more likely in your opinion, that Tony V's back again
Speaker 3: next year? Like I never really thought there was a
Speaker 3: big case to make to say that he was on
Speaker 3: the hot seat. I know that there is that portion
Speaker 3: of the lunatic fringe that wants the manager to get
Speaker 3: fired every year if you have a losing record. Look,
Speaker 3: the record's bad, they've dropped off. They've taken steps backwards
Speaker 3: since firing Bob Melvin and bringing in Tony Vitello. But
Speaker 3: this still feels like it's an incomplete assignment, not only
Speaker 3: this season, but moving forward with Tony Vitelo. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean they're setting it up for him to be back.
Speaker 4: I think with the moves that they made at the deadline,
Speaker 4: with some of the moves even that they had made
Speaker 4: prior to the deadline, I think that the shift really
Speaker 4: has been since the middle of June about the future.
Speaker 4: And you could debate it, and I think internally they
Speaker 4: would probably push back on the notion that they acknowledged Hey,
Speaker 4: this year, ain't it June fifteenth?
Speaker 2: In some ways, I think.
Speaker 4: When they were so open to being to move veterans,
Speaker 4: and those stories came out, and I think part of that,
Speaker 4: we talked about it at the time is sort of
Speaker 4: Buster with the shot across the bow to everybody in
Speaker 4: the clubhouse at that point with them whatever it was
Speaker 4: fourteen under like, hey, this is your last last chance
Speaker 4: to get on a run where you go twelve and
Speaker 4: two or something like that, and then maybe we can
Speaker 4: change the conversation. But it had been so bad so quickly,
Speaker 4: I think, worse than anybody could have imagined in terms
Speaker 4: of the one loss record coming into the year, that
Speaker 4: it had to be acknowledged, I think in the way
Speaker 4: that Buster did. So I think Tony's back the one caveat.
Speaker 4: I would add to that, as long as he wants
Speaker 4: to be, you know, I do think there is a
Speaker 4: component to that as well, like maybe he could reflect
Speaker 4: and say, depending upon how things shake out, this isn't
Speaker 4: for me, I want to go back to the college game.
Speaker 4: Anything like that, Like I think that would you know,
Speaker 4: that would be something that I would wonder if it
Speaker 4: would be in play for Tony. But it's pretty clear,
Speaker 4: I think, and I'm sure Buster would say, is that
Speaker 4: they're setting this thing up to basically be a mulligan,
Speaker 4: even if coming into the season they weren't necessarily intending
Speaker 4: on having as many growing pains, or they thought that
Speaker 4: they had a team good enough to overcome some of
Speaker 4: the growing pains, while a lot of the traits that
Speaker 4: attracted them to Tony would shine through and help the
Speaker 4: team that they put together perform at a better level
Speaker 4: than the teams over the last four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we simply have not seen them. But circling
Speaker 3: back to our conversation with bus Er Posey right around
Speaker 3: a month ago, in case you missed it, he will
Speaker 3: join us again this morning at seven thirty. We asked
Speaker 3: him about the evaluation of Tony Vitello and he even
Speaker 3: kind of joked around and said, look, I'm going to
Speaker 3: say this comment, and I'm sure somebody's gonna write a story.
Speaker 3: Worry about it that Buster Posey supports him even though
Speaker 3: he's fourteen games under five hundred. At that point, he said,
Speaker 3: I see the work that Tony v does behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: and he's impressed with the job he's been doing. Now,
Speaker 3: I know some Giants fans are going to say, what
Speaker 3: the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Buster?
Speaker 3: You guys are eighteen nineteen games under five hundred, how
Speaker 3: could he possibly be doing a good job, And that
Speaker 3: again circles back to the conversation about whether or not
Speaker 3: it's the chef or the ingredients, and if he was
Speaker 3: provided the correct ingredients. Going back to the beginning of
Speaker 3: the year where we all had complaints about the bullpen,
Speaker 3: where we all had complains about the signings of Tyler
Speaker 3: Mallley and Adrian Hawser, and Tony Vitello having to deal
Speaker 3: with those problems at the big league level. It is
Speaker 3: what it is. You gotta go out there and you
Speaker 3: got to get the most out of your roster. I
Speaker 3: don't think Tony Vytelo has gotten the most out of
Speaker 3: this roster, which might sound like harsh criticism, but it's
Speaker 3: also a reflection on your overall record this year and
Speaker 3: the difference of what we were told to your point
Speaker 3: about how Tony Vtello's personality might take you to the
Speaker 3: next step versus maybe the dull tones of a Bob
Speaker 3: Melvin line. There's clearly a belief that with the trend
Speaker 3: toward the younger players, that he's suited for that. But
Speaker 3: there was also a belief, and this is where I
Speaker 3: don't revise history that he would be able to lead,
Speaker 3: or this team would be talented enough to where they
Speaker 3: could overcome some of the learning curve, but but that
Speaker 3: he would be good enough to get more out of
Speaker 3: even a veteran roster like that that should not get
Speaker 3: revised through history.
Speaker 4: And to your point or question about has he gotten
Speaker 4: the most out of this roster? Absolutely not. No, I
Speaker 4: like that, That's an easy answer, like, absolutely not. I
Speaker 4: mean they I don't think anybody would look and at
Speaker 4: some point I think there will, and there probably already
Speaker 4: has been an internal cut off to where the wins
Speaker 4: and losses stop stop unless unless it just completely koreems
Speaker 4: because this has been my take on it for a while,
Speaker 4: Like they're intending fully for him to come back, and
Speaker 4: it's very easy for Buster, probably at the end of
Speaker 4: the season to in some form or fashion, step to
Speaker 4: the dais and say, hey, I failed Tony this year,
Speaker 4: or we failed Tony as a front office this year
Speaker 4: and prevented him from being able to be the best
Speaker 4: version of himself.
Speaker 2: With this club.
Speaker 4: That being said, I like all the things that he's
Speaker 4: done behind the scenes, and I've seen the like he'll
Speaker 4: reiterate a lot of what he told you and Murph,
Speaker 4: and so the intent would be absolutely to bring him back.
Speaker 4: And while the point at which wins and losses kind
Speaker 4: of stopped mattering somewhere between fifteen and maybe eighteen under
Speaker 4: they you also have to be accountable for how does
Speaker 4: it end? Like I say this all the time in sports,
Speaker 4: how seasons end matters, And so I don't believe that
Speaker 4: there's a whole lot that he can do between now
Speaker 4: and the end of the year that can add to Oh,
Speaker 4: he's done a great job right in despite a miracle
Speaker 4: run that that obviously doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: But I do think there are ways that you could
Speaker 4: feel worse about it, depending upon how the clubhouse stays
Speaker 4: together or doesn't, now that you have this infusion of
Speaker 4: youth with all the veterans around so and I do
Speaker 4: think losing a lot, even though the talent is worse
Speaker 4: than it was at the beginning of the season, can
Speaker 4: create some awkward circumstances to where the only way it
Speaker 4: would flip would be if the stories start coming out
Speaker 4: in September about how weird it is and how guys
Speaker 4: you know, didn't love the communication and like things that
Speaker 4: we aren't hearing now and haven't necessarily heard to this point.
Speaker 4: But again, beat writers, I'm not saying they don't. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying they hold stuff. We've got to I don't
Speaker 4: want to get into that whole conversation over the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, but they time when they report stuff
Speaker 4: like that, you know, for a focus more on next year,
Speaker 4: in the future and those kinds of things, And they
Speaker 4: also like part of the job becomes digging into that
Speaker 4: stuff more now because the day to day wins and
Speaker 4: losses don't matter. So it's not as if they know
Speaker 4: and are holding it, but it's more that becomes more
Speaker 4: of the focal point as opposed to.
Speaker 2: Who who pitched last night?
Speaker 4: Yes, and who got their first big league hit and
Speaker 4: all like that stuff's left that's part of the story,
Speaker 4: but the evaluation of the clubhouse now becomes the full story.
Speaker 4: And the thing where I do think Tony's gonna need
Speaker 4: quality marks in that vein between now and the end
Speaker 4: of the year to make it a no brainer obviously
Speaker 4: to bring him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't get to a point where we're talking
Speaker 3: about the clubhouse being checked out and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden there's stories being released about Jock Peterson leading a
Speaker 3: Filipino card game ring down in the clubhouse and nobody
Speaker 3: cares and guys are just playing out the strings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the communication was so bad that that or the
Speaker 4: preparation was deemed to be so bad that people were wondering,
Speaker 4: what the heck, what the heck are we doing? Like
Speaker 4: if so, if those kinds of stories start to come out,
Speaker 4: then I think it would change or have the potential
Speaker 4: to change the organization's stance as of Yeah.
Speaker 5: Instead, you want to see the fight and the energy
Speaker 5: from the younger guys getting the opportunity. Just like the
Speaker 5: other night, even though the Giants ended up being walked
Speaker 5: off for the tenth time this season, it was entertaining
Speaker 5: to see the way they battle back, with Basabe going
Speaker 5: deep and tying up that ballgame with a two run
Speaker 5: home run. With that ninth inning, three straight lefties against
Speaker 5: an all star lefty, with Drew Gilbert and Grant McCrae
Speaker 5: and Bryce Eldridge come off the bench with a clutch hit.
Speaker 5: You want to see those type of battles And yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not the end result, but to your point, the
Speaker 5: results really don't matter now because your season's over. It's
Speaker 5: been over for a couple of weeks, which led you
Speaker 5: to the trade deadline. You want to see more of
Speaker 5: that passion, that energy, some of that excitement, some of
Speaker 5: that Tennessee Tony that maybe we were promised and maybe
Speaker 5: showcase when he first signed here in San Francisco. Let's
Speaker 5: go out to the phone lines real quick. We got
Speaker 5: Rick in Hayward, who's got a thoughts on the young
Speaker 5: Giants moving forward? Rick, You're on the Murphy Marky Show
Speaker 5: this morning with John Dickinson and Marcus Bouschet.
Speaker 2: What's up, Rick? How you doing?
Speaker 6: Hey? John? Hey, Marcus, Hey, great job on the Greg
Speaker 6: and Greg situation today. I feel so bad for them,
Speaker 6: and you know, I understand it's part of that business
Speaker 6: that you guys are in, but it really sucks. Getting
Speaker 6: to my point on the team right now, I looked
Speaker 6: at the team and I don't see the Sabi, McCrae,
Speaker 6: Gilbert and even the guy Leonard as the possible future
Speaker 6: of this team. I think that where Bester did a
Speaker 6: good job on Monday getting those I think it was
Speaker 6: nine players backs, three shortstops, and a bunch of pitchers.
Speaker 6: I think that restocking the minor leagues and you know
Speaker 6: the future of the Giants is right now, I think
Speaker 6: in Richmond, or in Medford or or Sam Jose. I
Speaker 6: mean that's the problem, you know, I kind of laugh.
Speaker 6: I know you. I don't know if you guys did
Speaker 6: the interview with Larry Bear, But where Larry goes and says, well,
Speaker 6: we compete what we rebuilt, well, that ain't going to
Speaker 6: be the case this time around, Larry. I mean, you
Speaker 6: can't compete with guys from Double A playing and it
Speaker 6: just it isn't gonna happen. But that's okay to me.
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see the team being built like it
Speaker 6: should have been built in the first place, for pitching
Speaker 6: in defense, not for hitting home runs, because unless ownership
Speaker 6: is willing to change the dimensions of the ballpark and
Speaker 6: do some more wind abatement, the ballpark's never going to
Speaker 6: be a home run in ballpark, it don't means last
Speaker 6: in baseball right now. I think last I checked, there
Speaker 6: were ninety five home runs hit at Oracle Park, which
Speaker 6: is last. But I really think that this team needs
Speaker 6: to be built on pitching and defense and speed and
Speaker 6: then doubletitters, triple titters, and that's what I look forward
Speaker 6: to in the future.
Speaker 3: Rick, great call, appreciate you checking in this morning. You're right,
Speaker 3: the Giants need to improve their pitching at all levels
Speaker 3: of Major league level and throughout the minor leagues, which
Speaker 3: we have seen them pretty much address throughout the entire season,
Speaker 3: with them using twelve of their twenty draft picks this
Speaker 3: year on pitching. To your point, those guys are going
Speaker 3: to be a ways away, but then we also saw
Speaker 3: what the trades that they made this year at the deadline.
Speaker 3: You could see some pitchers that could contribute possibly as
Speaker 3: early as next season, if there is a season next year.
Speaker 3: And I don't know about how many guys from yesterday's
Speaker 3: current lineup are going to be in next year's current lineup,
Speaker 3: but there are still going to be a lot of
Speaker 3: layover pieces with the big contracts and some of the
Speaker 3: younger guys like your Bryce Oldrig's, your Daniel Sussas, your
Speaker 3: Casey Schmid and those pieces as well. So you're right,
Speaker 3: you need to fill in more with the pitching aspect
Speaker 3: than you do overall from a position standpoint. But that's
Speaker 3: why they've been so focused on adding more pitching to
Speaker 3: the organization over the last couple of months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have more open spots in the pitching department,
Speaker 4: whether it's three projected rotation spots at this stage that
Speaker 4: that guys are fighting to work their name into the
Speaker 4: conversation about and I would say there's I don't know, five, six, seven,
Speaker 4: eight bullpen spot, anywhere between maybe five and eight almost
Speaker 4: all spots and I eight man bullpen there's anywhere between
Speaker 4: five and eight bullpen spots open, So you're right, I
Speaker 4: mean there is. There are as many bullpen spots open
Speaker 4: as there are everyday position player.
Speaker 2: Lineup spots open. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's open season, it's try out season, and yeah, Rick,
Speaker 3: they're not looking to compete this year. I guess they're
Speaker 3: just looking to be competitive, if that makes sense. They're
Speaker 3: not focusing on the wins and loss record, but more
Speaker 3: about the journey and how they go through the process
Speaker 3: and if they're still showing up to the ballpark every
Speaker 3: single day. Engage, let's switch gears against a little forty
Speaker 3: nine ERD talk. Before we talked to bus or Posi
Speaker 3: this morning at seven point thirty, we've got more injury news.
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Speaker 3: eight away Cambire, is it still Super Bowl or bus
Speaker 3: for this roster or has the season already been derailed
Speaker 3: by injuries? Give us a call. Eightaway, Cambire. It's Marcus
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Speaker 7: I've been around some great teams, though, right the stacks
Speaker 7: up there with one of the best teams I've been
Speaker 7: a part of. I mean, obviously we have to go
Speaker 7: out there and prove it. We're putting in the order
Speaker 7: to do that. But in Temple I had some really
Speaker 7: good teams, you know, play with Tom Abron, Chris gowin am.
Speaker 7: So this stacks up, stacks up right there, and hopefully
Speaker 7: that we can accomplish what we what I accomplished with.
Speaker 3: That team The Voice of Mike Evans. Earlier this week,
Speaker 3: Murph and I were down in Santa Clara at forty
Speaker 3: nine ers training camp. If you missed that interview, you
Speaker 3: can check out the entire interview on KMBR dot com
Speaker 3: or wherever you download your kambur podcast. It's Marcy's Bouchet
Speaker 3: and John Dickinson this morning, filling in for Murph today
Speaker 3: and tomorrow. Get you ready for our interview with Buster
Speaker 3: Posey at seven thirty. But switching gears a little bit
Speaker 3: reacting to those comments from Mike Evans talking about this
Speaker 3: forty nine er roster and how it compares to his
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning roster with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, now,
Speaker 3: I have not compared these teams on paper head to
Speaker 3: head like Kevin Durant was doing with the twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: Warriors versus the excuse me, twenty seventeen Warriors versus the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Philadelphia seventy six ers. But just off
Speaker 3: the top of my head, I would guess that the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers might have had more future Hall of
Speaker 3: Famers than that Tampa Bay Buccaneers team. Now, obviously, you
Speaker 3: look straight at a guy like Tom Brady and Mike
Speaker 3: Evans is on his way. But you look at this
Speaker 3: current forty nine er roster, and I've made this argument before,
Speaker 3: there's legit four, five, maybe six guys that could be
Speaker 3: headed towards a gold jacket career, starting with the big
Speaker 3: Man himself, Trent Williams Easley a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: We just mentioned Mike Evans, who had eleven straight consecutive
Speaker 3: one thousand yard season. Christian McCaffrey, in my opinion, is
Speaker 3: a future Hall of Famer, a man that can get
Speaker 3: you one thousand receiving yards one thousand rushing yards. George
Speaker 3: Kittle one of the best tight ends of this generation.
Speaker 3: I would put him on the list as well. Then
Speaker 3: you flip over to the defensive side, Fred Warner, I
Speaker 3: think he's a future Hall of Famer. Nick Bosa has
Speaker 3: the potential. That's six. Then you can make an argument
Speaker 3: for maybe some other guys around the roster. I'm sure
Speaker 3: a couple of people are gonna check in with brock Purty,
Speaker 3: but it's on a year six. I think it's a
Speaker 3: little too early to put a gold jacket on brock Purty.
Speaker 5: But my bigger point is JD. You look at this
Speaker 5: roster and overall it's one of the most loaded rosters
Speaker 5: in the NFL. So the question is should it be
Speaker 5: Super Bowl or bust this year?
Speaker 4: For the San Francisco four to nine ers it feels
Speaker 4: that way coming off of last year, and last year
Speaker 4: was sort of a pause from Super Bowl or bust
Speaker 4: at least going into the season. If you recall coming
Speaker 4: off of twenty twenty four and only winning the six games,
Speaker 4: finishing six and eleven, and what it was one of
Speaker 4: the last eight I think, or one of the last
Speaker 4: nine that I sort of lost count. I think they
Speaker 4: were five and four and ended up six and eleven,
Speaker 4: So I guess that would be what seven and or
Speaker 4: seven in the last eight, or maybe they were four
Speaker 4: and five anyway, and all runs down Trusure Matt it
Speaker 4: was one win in like the last two months, essentially
Speaker 4: going two years ago. And so that coupled with the
Speaker 4: financial reset that the forty nine ers did in terms
Speaker 4: of getting off with some veterans and trying to bring
Speaker 4: in an infusion of youth to reset their books, led
Speaker 4: to I think a little bit of lowered expectations outwardly
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty five. Now that was to be offset
Speaker 4: by the schedule, and so I think there was a
Speaker 4: belief that, hey, if things go well because of the schedule,
Speaker 4: could still make the playoffs and contend even in the
Speaker 4: NFC West and That's exactly what happened, despite the fact
Speaker 4: that they were ravaged by injuries to big time players
Speaker 4: and others throughout the entirety of that season.
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about missing future Hall of Famers
Speaker 3: in those playoff games, and the product, the production, the
Speaker 3: performances that they were still able to put out there
Speaker 3: taking down the defending Super Bowl champions in the Philadelphia Eagle, and.
Speaker 4: To finish that point, it all leads back to I
Speaker 4: think they took not I don't know that they internally
Speaker 4: took up from it, because you still had Kittle there,
Speaker 4: and you still had Warner there, and you still have
Speaker 4: a lot of Ibosa coming into the season before all
Speaker 4: three of those guys eventually got hurt and of course
Speaker 4: brock Purty. So internally, I don't know that the standard changed, right,
Speaker 4: It's the standard as the standard. But I think if
Speaker 4: you look back coming into the year, it was definitely
Speaker 4: not super Bowl or bust last year. It may have
Speaker 4: become that because of the record and the run that
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers got on at the end of
Speaker 4: November and into December that led all the way up
Speaker 4: until Week eighteen and the game for the Division at
Speaker 4: Levi stadium that Seattle ultimately won, But I think the
Speaker 4: belief was that they were going to be too injury
Speaker 4: plague to make a meaningful run to the NFC Championship
Speaker 4: Game or get to the Super Bowl. And remember, it
Speaker 4: became remarkable as they kept losing guys that they kept winning,
Speaker 4: even if a lot of that was maybe because of
Speaker 4: the more favorable schedule that they had, especially toward the
Speaker 4: back end of the year. So I think there was
Speaker 4: a break from the outward expectations last year because of
Speaker 4: the way they performed in the adverse circumstances. Those expectations
Speaker 4: are one hundred and fifty million percent back, oh.
Speaker 3: Without question, especially when you look at the injury list,
Speaker 3: which is pretty long right now. But you look at
Speaker 3: the potential of getting guys back like a Nick Bosa,
Speaker 3: like Fred Warner, and then bringing in help from the outside.
Speaker 3: Guess who's back in town The Bully himself, number fifty seven,
Speaker 3: right in the middle, Dray Greenlaw, who dealt with some
Speaker 3: injuries last year, so there are some concerns there, but
Speaker 3: he's back in the middle with Fred Warner. So you're
Speaker 3: bringing some of that energy, You're bringing some of those
Speaker 3: vibes you're bringing some of that bully mentality.
Speaker 2: Back to your defense.
Speaker 3: You're also bringing it back on offense with the signing
Speaker 3: of Deebo Samuel over the weekend after last year we
Speaker 3: saw the yak Yards completely disappear from this Kyle Shanahan offense.
Speaker 3: We know that Deebo Samuel is a huge piece at
Speaker 3: the gadget in this offense. You bring in the additions
Speaker 3: of Mike Evans and Christian Kirk so jd out of
Speaker 3: all these off season additions, I'd even throw in a
Speaker 3: OsO Digiezua in the trade, bringing him into the defensive line,
Speaker 3: adding depth and maybe some interior pass rush. Which one
Speaker 3: of these offseasons additions do you think is gonna help
Speaker 3: put the forty nine ers maybe over the hump to
Speaker 3: get back on track to be in that Super Bowl content.
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the two that would come to mind.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's Mike Evans, to be sure, as
Speaker 4: a lead dog, number one wide receiver that that stylistically
Speaker 4: is is different as a future Hall of Famer than
Speaker 4: than anybody that they've had really in the last decade
Speaker 4: and a half. I mean, the one name that pops
Speaker 4: up was an Kwon Bolden's time during with the Harbaugh
Speaker 4: Niners the couple of years that he was there and
Speaker 4: extremely productive after he had obviously been with the Cardinals
Speaker 4: and the and the Ravens on that team that beat
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers in the Super Bowl. So Evans,
Speaker 4: I think is at the top of the list offensively.
Speaker 4: And you mentioned OsO A Digizua. I mean you give
Speaker 4: up a third round pick, yeah, for somebody. And again
Speaker 4: he's in his twenties, not his thirties, and so that's
Speaker 4: a young player in his prime, impactful on the interior
Speaker 4: of the defensive line. I think they really believe that
Speaker 4: he has the ability to ignite a defensive line that
Speaker 4: has not been as dominant in the ways that I
Speaker 4: think Kyle Shanahan and company want their defensive line to
Speaker 4: be dominant and had been dominant in the years where
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers were on the comes as a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contending team that was kind of led by
Speaker 4: their defense first as much as as Kyle Shanahan was
Speaker 4: cooking things up with different quarterbacks and running backs and
Speaker 4: personnel on the offensive side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's probably where I stand as well, because
Speaker 3: not to go too far back into some sore memories.
Speaker 3: But you look at those last couple of games against
Speaker 3: the Seahawks, and they got absolutely dominated in the trenches.
Speaker 3: They got all over. Now, of course, no Nick Bosa,
Speaker 3: no Mikel Williams, you're missing multiple pieces. Those guys are
Speaker 3: gonna come back and it's gonna give you depth. But overall,
Speaker 3: that defensive line needed help. So I love the addition
Speaker 3: of a guy like Osa Digazua, who can not only
Speaker 3: help you against a run, but he gives you really
Speaker 3: good pressure inside as a defensive tackle to maybe get
Speaker 3: some pressure up the middle, because we're talking about a
Speaker 3: defensive line last year without Nick Bosa that had twenty
Speaker 3: total sacks on the season, which was dead last.
Speaker 5: In the NFL. You can't win if you don't get
Speaker 5: to the quarterback. So I'd say even with all those
Speaker 5: additions I just named, Mike Evans, to your point, is
Speaker 5: going to be an impact playmaker. But I think I'm
Speaker 5: more confident in the offense's ability to move the ball
Speaker 5: in score points without Mike Evans than I am in
Speaker 5: the defense if they didn't have Osa Digazula. I think
Speaker 5: Osa might make the biggest impact just because of the
Speaker 5: depth that they need on the defensive line.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 4: I mean he helps the interior, and I think the
Speaker 4: hope is that he, along with Bosa's return, are going
Speaker 4: to help the outside as well. Having a better helps
Speaker 4: the outside as we still look at the outside and
Speaker 4: wonder whether the forty nine ers have enough in terms
Speaker 4: of the outside pass rush beyond Nick Bosa obviously coming
Speaker 4: back and with the hope that he's going to be
Speaker 4: a dominant, dominant player, so that there are I think
Speaker 4: that was part of why again you give up a
Speaker 4: third round pick for somebody like osa Odigi Zua. But
Speaker 4: you look at the injuries to the wide receiver room
Speaker 4: and Mike Evans being a part of that. They're counting
Speaker 4: on Mike Evans, and I think part of going and
Speaker 4: getting Mike Evans is the fact that you may not
Speaker 4: have George Kittle at the beginning of the season and
Speaker 4: you want to have the ability to have a go
Speaker 4: to guy, a trusted safety net for Brock Purty, and
Speaker 4: somebody that again can attack defenses in a different way
Speaker 4: than maybe the forty nine ers have been able to
Speaker 4: with at the wide receiver position through through the years.
Speaker 3: And you look at that wide receiver room right now
Speaker 3: after We've got the news over the weekend that Ricky
Speaker 3: Piersol would be shut down for the season with that
Speaker 3: season ending PCL surgery on his knee and the issue
Speaker 3: that he's been dealing with since last season. Injury updates
Speaker 3: from yesterday. Still know Christian Kirk on the field, who's
Speaker 3: dealing with the cafe injury. Mike Evans sat out practice
Speaker 3: yesterday with a quad injury, Rookie Dejon Stribbling sat out
Speaker 3: practice with a handsring injury, and now Jacob Cowing is
Speaker 3: also on the injury list with a hip flexer strain.
Speaker 3: I saw a stat yesterday that the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: were missing eighteen total players yesterday at Wednesday practice, which
Speaker 3: is twenty percent of their active ninety man roster right
Speaker 3: now during the offseason during training camp JD. It's same
Speaker 3: as different day. The injuries continue to pile on. I
Speaker 3: should note that some of the players missing practice yesterday,
Speaker 3: like Nick Bosa, Dre Greenlaw and Osa Digazua set out
Speaker 3: for general soreness day. Yeah, exactly, give him a day off,
Speaker 3: But still not the news you want to get this
Speaker 3: early on in training camp when this is something that
Speaker 3: derailed the season last year. They're able to work through
Speaker 3: that adversity, but it's got maybe people filling a little
Speaker 3: bit hesitant about calling the forty nine ers a title
Speaker 3: contender because of these injuries that keep on reoccurring.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
Speaker 4: And you look at them being back on the practice
Speaker 4: field yesterday after the off day. So you give some
Speaker 4: vets a little chance to rest, you give them two days,
Speaker 4: and then you go harder today. There's the jog through
Speaker 4: tomorrow before the hardest practice on Saturday. So in this
Speaker 4: block of four days, that's how they're trying to maneuver
Speaker 4: it as we get closer to these joint practices, and
Speaker 4: they've been so depleted in terms of the guys that
Speaker 4: are missing practice that there were questions yesterday about whether
Speaker 4: or not they might cancel the joint practice with the Titans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got the one coming up.
Speaker 4: The next two Tuesdays, they've got joint practice, one with
Speaker 4: the Titans and then one with the Chargers before they
Speaker 4: go down and play the Chargers in the preseason game
Speaker 4: number two on the twentieth. So they've got the Titans.
Speaker 4: All three of their preseason games are all three Thursdays.
Speaker 4: I think to align with the fact that their first
Speaker 4: game of the year is going to be on a Thursday,
Speaker 4: and get the schedule right for Australia, so they have
Speaker 4: a couple of joint practices while they're going to be
Speaker 4: facing those teams with the Chargers and the Titans respectively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know Chris Forrester was asked about those
Speaker 3: potential joint practices and if they could potentially be canceled
Speaker 3: because it was a couple of years ago. In twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, the forty nine Ers were missing twenty three
Speaker 3: players and had to cancel their joint practice against the Saints.
Speaker 3: So that's something to keep an eyeing as we move
Speaker 3: forward and ford closer and closer to the NFL season.
Speaker 3: It's the Hall of Fame game tonight. Does anybody care?
Speaker 3: Eight away can beyond guess nothing.
Speaker 5: I will say I'll probably turn it on just to watch,
Speaker 5: just so I can get a taste of football. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna degenerate. I might throw some action down, get a
Speaker 5: couple of prop bets on Carson Becker.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know who's playing. It's
Speaker 2: the Cardinals and I believe it's the Titans tonight. I
Speaker 2: think o Titan. Okay, no, no, no, excuse me.
Speaker 3: Cardinals and Carolina Panthers, a rivalry that goes down is
Speaker 3: one of the greatest n NFL history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same difference. Who really can wait? The Cardinals and
Speaker 2: the Panthers and they playing an NFC championship game once? Ooh,
Speaker 2: we're going back to what the Jake delm days. I
Speaker 2: think I think they played.
Speaker 4: They're more recently than that to go to the super
Speaker 4: Bowl here at Levi's do you I think maybe right.
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen NFC cham maybe wrong? Does it really matter?
Speaker 2: That's the question? Eightawa Camby.
Speaker 5: Are we got Buster posed coming up in nineteen minutes
Speaker 5: at seven thirty eight am?
Speaker 2: So how about this?
Speaker 5: Eightaway camyre, what do you want to ask the president
Speaker 5: of Baseball Operations? And are you going to show up
Speaker 5: to the ballpark this weekend to honor the Wall of Fame,
Speaker 5: the Giants are putting five new faces on the wall,
Speaker 5: including Buster Posey, Brandon Crawford, Joe Panic, Brandon Bell, and
Speaker 5: Pablo Sandoval. Eightaway Cambi are rank them? Who's your favorite Giant?
Speaker 5: Who's your favorite going on the Wall of Fame this weekend?
Speaker 5: JD Quick thought, yeah, quick thought.
Speaker 4: I confirming right now the fact that, yeah, the NFC
Speaker 4: Championship game was in fact Arizona and Carolina in January
Speaker 4: of two thousand and sixteen, ten years ago.
Speaker 3: So yeah, time flies when you're having fun. We'll get
Speaker 3: ready for our buster posey interview next with JD. Philon
Speaker 3: in Fro Murf on the Murphy Marcos Show on the
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