WEBVTT - It Ooogs Me Out 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.690 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.750 George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong 0:00:16.810 --> 0:00:17.509 and Getty. 0:00:17.670 --> 0:00:24.570 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:29.380 --> 0:00:33.720 It's early and overall unemployment remains generally steady. But mounting 0:00:33.780 --> 0:00:38.360 research shows that for the most AI-exposed jobs, take software developers, 0:00:38.860 --> 0:00:42.960 hiring has slowed and wages have declined. The impact focused 0:00:43.020 --> 0:00:45.709 on one group in particular, 20-somethings. 0:00:46.290 --> 0:00:49.510 Traditionally, the tasks that you might assign to a young person, 0:00:49.530 --> 0:00:53.590 maybe doing some market research or creating the first draft 0:00:53.890 --> 0:00:56.670 of a memo, AI is just really good at doing 0:00:56.710 --> 0:00:57.130 those now. 0:00:58.430 --> 0:01:00.990 Yeah, so that's from last night's 60 Minutes. It was 0:01:01.030 --> 0:01:03.910 her lead story and really got into the whole is 0:01:03.990 --> 0:01:06.390 AI going to wipe out jobs thing or create more 0:01:06.450 --> 0:01:09.690 jobs or, you know, that discussion. That woman you heard 0:01:09.730 --> 0:01:12.810 from there, she was big in the AI world and 0:01:12.830 --> 0:01:15.530 was worried about it and decided to start a nonprofit 0:01:15.610 --> 0:01:18.500 that deals with, well, trying to combat this whole thing. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.220 Which was quite giving of her is because if you're 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.890 on the full speed ahead track with some AI company, 0:01:25.910 --> 0:01:27.630 I think you're much more likely to end up a 0:01:27.670 --> 0:01:32.230 billionaire than the pushing back against AI world. But she's 0:01:32.270 --> 0:01:34.690 young and cares about the world as opposed to her 0:01:34.770 --> 0:01:37.310 own riches. That's what happens when you're young. 0:01:37.350 --> 0:01:37.649 Full. 0:01:38.069 --> 0:01:38.610 Full. 0:01:39.270 --> 0:01:39.509 Right. 0:01:39.709 --> 0:01:39.929 Yeah. 0:01:40.430 --> 0:01:40.610 Yeah. 0:01:40.670 --> 0:01:43.940 The whole thing was both fascinating and troubling. In the 0:01:43.980 --> 0:01:45.459 way that all these discussions are. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.860 Let me throw in a disclaimer real quick, just because 0:01:48.900 --> 0:01:50.740 I see a lot of the texts and I don't 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:55.520 know which of you are trolls who just want to 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.840 elicit a response. And there's a fair number of you 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.880 and I've been blocking you a lot. I've decided to 0:01:59.900 --> 0:02:02.270 get rid of all the trolls and Twitter text, everything 0:02:02.310 --> 0:02:04.340 like that. Just, just not, don't have time for you. 0:02:04.390 --> 0:02:04.620 All right. 0:02:04.950 --> 0:02:06.670 I know you, you, you try to get under people's 0:02:06.710 --> 0:02:09.190 skin and that's how you live your sad, sad, sad lives. 0:02:09.450 --> 0:02:11.329 We're just blocking you. So I don't see them anymore 0:02:11.370 --> 0:02:14.460 as much. But we get a fair amount. Oh, my God. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.200 Are you guys talking about AI again? All right. If 0:02:18.260 --> 0:02:20.700 you're not interested in what is going to be the 0:02:20.780 --> 0:02:23.300 biggest thing that's ever happened to human beings on the 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.120 planet Earth, I don't know what to tell you. And 0:02:26.139 --> 0:02:28.870 it's going to disrupt your job and your kid's job 0:02:29.150 --> 0:02:31.030 and the economy and all of. 0:02:31.050 --> 0:02:34.450 These different things. I firmly believe. I think they would 0:02:34.490 --> 0:02:37.510 deny that your premise is true. It's not going to 0:02:37.550 --> 0:02:39.770 be the biggest thing ever. It's going to be somewhat 0:02:39.850 --> 0:02:43.840 more effective computers. Better search engines and, you know, you 0:02:43.860 --> 0:02:46.280 can ask it to write your rough draft. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.060 Well, it's the five of the seven biggest companies on Earth. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.799 And if it turns out not to be much, I 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:56.440 think that's going to be a pretty big deal for 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.000 the economy. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.850 Here's more from that woman talking about where she sees 0:03:04.950 --> 0:03:08.170 things going on 60 Minutes last night. And you've seen 0:03:08.610 --> 0:03:09.630 how powerful this can be. 0:03:09.910 --> 0:03:10.190 Oh, yeah. 0:03:10.490 --> 0:03:15.609 I've seen us go from previously requiring dozens of people 0:03:16.169 --> 0:03:20.780 to conceive of a product, prototype it, build it, to 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.780 now being able to do that with one or two 0:03:22.820 --> 0:03:25.080 or three people using AI agents. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.080 Shai was so alarmed by what this meant for the workforce, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.180 she quit her plum tech job and founded a nonprofit, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:36.550 helping young people navigate this new economy. And she's emerged 0:03:36.630 --> 0:03:38.010 as an AI Cassandra. 0:03:38.030 --> 0:03:40.230 I think AI is going to have a profound impact 0:03:40.450 --> 0:03:43.370 on every profession. There are a lot of people whose 0:03:43.450 --> 0:03:50.070 jobs it is today within companies to prepare information, research, 0:03:50.470 --> 0:03:55.690 analyze data for other individuals in that company. And increasingly, 0:03:55.900 --> 0:03:58.720 although it's starting with the entry level, it could result 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.080 in a lot of people losing their jobs. 0:04:01.460 --> 0:04:04.220 And job loss means what, as you see it? 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.930 It's never just about the jobs. It's people's sense of self-worth. 0:04:10.500 --> 0:04:12.590 It's the fracturing of communities. 0:04:12.870 --> 0:04:16.910 According to Elon, that's not going to be a problem. 0:04:17.450 --> 0:04:19.849 You play your guitar and write poetry. 0:04:20.540 --> 0:04:21.260 Yeah, no problem. 0:04:21.300 --> 0:04:24.500 And there will be universal high income where some amount 0:04:24.540 --> 0:04:29.740 of money will be gotten somehow by somebody and given 0:04:29.820 --> 0:04:31.320 to you somehow. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.200 And you will then have it. 0:04:33.620 --> 0:04:35.940 My son's all on board with this. My oldest will 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.360 be out in the real world here in just a 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.000 year and a half, which blows my mind. He's like, what? 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:41.460 Cool. 0:04:41.990 --> 0:04:43.670 Where do I sign up? So I'll have some little 0:04:43.690 --> 0:04:45.750 crappy apartment, drive a crappy car. I'm fine with that. 0:04:46.110 --> 0:04:47.350 I'm just going to have a good time the rest 0:04:47.410 --> 0:04:47.750 of my life. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.960 That gal who we're listening to is overseeing major AI 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.960 divisions at Salesforce and then Meta, so a heavyweight in 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:55.310 the field. 0:04:56.470 --> 0:04:56.910 One of the. 0:04:56.930 --> 0:04:59.990 Featurettes in the midst of that report caught my ear 0:05:00.050 --> 0:05:02.390 because I have a friend at the same law firm 0:05:02.710 --> 0:05:05.710 as one of the gals who was quoted, and he 0:05:05.770 --> 0:05:09.070 had told me about these AI personas that they were building. 0:05:09.730 --> 0:05:13.450 And what they are in short is, and you've heard 0:05:13.490 --> 0:05:17.770 examples of this from writers, but it studies everything you've 0:05:17.810 --> 0:05:22.300 done You feed the AI system, you know, everything you've done, 0:05:22.460 --> 0:05:27.099 everything you've written as an attorney, every negotiation you've worked through, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.850 the entire paper trail. Then you do long interviews with 0:05:31.890 --> 0:05:36.990 the AI people. And the persona then can do an 0:05:37.110 --> 0:05:41.390 imitation of you so uncanny, it's freaky. 0:05:42.190 --> 0:05:42.750 How would. 0:05:43.690 --> 0:05:48.450 Attorney Joe Getty respond to this offer to buy an 0:05:48.510 --> 0:05:52.560 apartment building with these terms. And according to my friend, 0:05:52.580 --> 0:05:54.860 it was like, oh, my God, it approached it just 0:05:54.900 --> 0:06:00.640 the way I would have, including like his style, which 0:06:00.740 --> 0:06:06.170 is kind of amiable and easygoing because, you know, you 0:06:06.190 --> 0:06:08.980 can always get the brass tacks later. and the persona 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.240 imitated that with freakish, uh, you know, accuracy. 0:06:12.300 --> 0:06:15.960 Well, the way the Barry Weiss 60 minutes opened this story, 0:06:16.020 --> 0:06:18.200 I thought was pretty clever last night. You had the 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.750 60 minutes correspondence sitting on the stool in front of 0:06:20.770 --> 0:06:23.050 the screen, like they start all the stories. And then 0:06:23.130 --> 0:06:25.150 at some point the real guy stepped forward and said, 0:06:25.170 --> 0:06:27.950 that wasn't me. That was AI. It was an AI 0:06:28.010 --> 0:06:30.490 video of him talking like him words put in his 0:06:30.529 --> 0:06:34.339 mouth that looked and sounded exactly like him. Um, which 0:06:34.420 --> 0:06:37.420 is why some people think AI now passes the Turing 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:42.230 test for video in addition to written word. And I 0:06:42.290 --> 0:06:44.010 had one more point on that. 0:06:44.029 --> 0:06:46.490 Turing test, that's the number of pull-ups you can do 0:06:46.750 --> 0:06:49.669 and timed runs. 0:06:49.950 --> 0:06:52.310 You can fool people that you can't tell the difference 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.700 between the artificial intelligence and the human being. Oh, and 0:06:55.740 --> 0:06:58.720 then back to my point arguing with the people who 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.230 say we talk about AI too much. This is just 0:07:01.350 --> 0:07:03.610 one of the topics. So you have to believe none 0:07:03.630 --> 0:07:05.770 of them are going to be a problem. The taken 0:07:05.810 --> 0:07:09.029 away jobs as opposed to creating new jobs like other technologies, 0:07:09.430 --> 0:07:15.250 the super intelligence taking over the world, the what it's 0:07:15.270 --> 0:07:17.440 going to do to governments, what it's going to do, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.400 the military. I mean, there's so many issues around this. 0:07:21.820 --> 0:07:23.960 Actually, as long as you're talking about that, let me 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.340 let me call an audible at the line. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:26.300 Omaha, Omaha. 0:07:26.990 --> 0:07:27.690 Play a 72. 0:07:27.690 --> 0:07:32.570 This is actually from CBS Sunday, Professor Hani Farid of Dartmouth. 0:07:33.250 --> 0:07:35.910 Here's what I think is next. And by saying next, 0:07:35.970 --> 0:07:39.040 I mean in the coming year, which is most of 0:07:39.060 --> 0:07:40.860 the deep fakes that we are seeing today have a 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.560 human somewhere in the process. Somebody's hands are on the keyboard. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.280 There's still a human in the loop. But what's going 0:07:47.300 --> 0:07:49.880 to start happening is AI agents are going to start 0:07:49.940 --> 0:07:51.940 creating their own fakes. So what is an AI agent? 0:07:52.020 --> 0:07:54.180 An agent just has more autonomy. And what we have 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:55.740 started to see is that when you give it a 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.220 problem to solve, It will find creative ways to do it, 0:07:58.310 --> 0:08:01.670 including creating a fake identity to interact with the human 0:08:01.710 --> 0:08:03.060 to get a human to do something, and then it 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:03.920 will lie about it. 0:08:05.660 --> 0:08:06.440 I wouldn't worry about it. 0:08:06.540 --> 0:08:09.700 See, that's already happening if you don't think AI is 0:08:09.730 --> 0:08:13.990 anything to be concerned about. That whole data center... Debate 0:08:14.030 --> 0:08:15.730 that we're having in the country, a lot of that 0:08:15.750 --> 0:08:19.170 was driven by AI agents put out there by Russia 0:08:19.210 --> 0:08:21.710 and China that got onto the Internet and are still 0:08:21.770 --> 0:08:27.480 today creating fake accounts and putting out videos and statements 0:08:27.540 --> 0:08:30.140 and stuff like that to convince people that the data 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.340 center debate is like more contentious than it actually is. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:39.040 It's already happening. What the F type of A.I.S. it is. 0:08:39.140 --> 0:08:41.099 What the F type of A.I.S. it is. 0:08:43.730 --> 0:08:47.370 So to the idea that there are people that now 0:08:49.190 --> 0:08:52.290 get hired to go to work for a company as 0:08:52.470 --> 0:08:55.829 a whatever it is your expertise is. They had a musician, 0:08:55.850 --> 0:09:01.200 a nurse, somebody else. And they go help AI companies 0:09:02.900 --> 0:09:07.800 replace them. You think that's a good idea? Or is 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.580 it just a what choice do you have? 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.800 Oh, absolutely. It's a good idea. Yeah. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.540 You can either be one of the few that profits 0:09:15.630 --> 0:09:18.310 from the disillusion of your industry. 0:09:18.330 --> 0:09:18.750 Briefly. 0:09:19.410 --> 0:09:19.910 Briefly. 0:09:20.110 --> 0:09:23.430 Or you can just be a victim of it. I'm 0:09:23.470 --> 0:09:26.410 going to help bury my coworkers. I'm turning on you 0:09:26.429 --> 0:09:27.630 guys the first chance I get. 0:09:27.670 --> 0:09:29.580 I suppose it makes sense that if I don't do it, 0:09:29.610 --> 0:09:33.300 somebody else is going to. If I'm not the nurse 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.179 that goes works for an AI company and helps them 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.200 create an AI agent that can do what I do. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.599 Somebody else is going to. Either way, my job is 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.080 going away. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:43.300 Right. Yeah. 0:09:43.540 --> 0:09:48.020 Agreed. Also, I kind of liked the 23-year-old billionaire with 0:09:48.090 --> 0:09:52.590 his attempt at being sunshiny about this while no one 0:09:52.630 --> 0:09:53.420 was buying it. 0:09:54.510 --> 0:09:56.210 Let's go with 84, Michael. 0:09:56.830 --> 0:10:01.130 Today, AI training is America's fourth fastest growth. job category 0:10:01.190 --> 0:10:05.400 on LinkedIn. And just as machinists once replaced artisans, Brendan 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.200 Foody insists he's creating a career of the future. Out 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:09.560 of work? 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:10.400 Fear not. 0:10:10.740 --> 0:10:11.720 Come train AI. 0:10:12.100 --> 0:10:13.020 Literally all of. 0:10:13.020 --> 0:10:15.790 The top 20 economists in America, they would say the 0:10:15.850 --> 0:10:18.790 exact same thing, which is that there's going to be 0:10:18.830 --> 0:10:20.650 more jobs in 10 years than there are today. 0:10:21.230 --> 0:10:21.689 No, there aren't. 0:10:21.970 --> 0:10:27.780 Training AI to replace people, that is by definition self-limiting. 0:10:29.570 --> 0:10:33.209 There's a booming field. Electricians across America are training AI 0:10:33.270 --> 0:10:39.840 to replace them. And that field is growing every year. No, no, no, no. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.219 And I just I wish I didn't have this. It's 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.490 just hard for me to listen to the 23 year 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.650 old billionaire and not have like just come at it 0:10:52.670 --> 0:10:54.569 from a negative angle, which is. 0:10:55.020 --> 0:10:58.510 Not his fault wow character flaw city here you're a 0:10:58.590 --> 0:11:05.270 child you shouldn't be in charge of anything what a 0:11:05.470 --> 0:11:09.550 an economist uh answered that with coming up at a 0:11:09.590 --> 0:11:11.449 moment after a word from our friends at simply safe 0:11:11.490 --> 0:11:14.350 home security uh so great when we go on vacation 0:11:14.390 --> 0:11:16.100 or just a day trip or whatever to know that 0:11:16.130 --> 0:11:18.620 the house is safe don't have to worry about our 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.740 stuff i mean my goodness when you go to sleep 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.579 at night the peace of mind You know, especially if 0:11:23.620 --> 0:11:26.420 there's a bit of crime, junkies ooching around where you live. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.229 SimpliSafe's so different because it prevents break-ins before they start. 0:11:31.190 --> 0:11:34.270 Pretty cool. 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All right. 0:12:33.059 --> 0:12:37.660 So you got your 23-year-old billionaire whose industry is finding 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.940 all the lawyers in the world, all the lawyers he can, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.470 all the electricians, all the music producers, everybody, so they 0:12:44.490 --> 0:12:47.750 can train the AI to put themselves out of work. 0:12:48.620 --> 0:12:51.260 But he says, no, it'll create more jobs. 0:12:51.260 --> 0:12:54.339 60 minutes, ask someone else in 85. You're a top 0:12:54.380 --> 0:12:55.260 economist in America. 0:12:55.300 --> 0:12:55.859 What say you? 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:56.240 No. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.320 No, not on our current trajectory. I don't saw that 0:12:59.340 --> 0:13:04.160 could happen. What we are living through with AI is unprecedented. 0:13:04.540 --> 0:13:08.910 The first phase of the Industrial Revolution lasted for 80 years. Today, 0:13:08.950 --> 0:13:11.190 it's taking place in one or two years. And it's 0:13:11.330 --> 0:13:13.770 taking place across many sectors at the same time. 0:13:16.770 --> 0:13:18.989 I think a lot of people's resistance to talking about 0:13:19.030 --> 0:13:25.420 this or fatigue is that they it's a lot like 0:13:25.540 --> 0:13:29.850 talking about mortality. I don't know what to do about it. 0:13:29.990 --> 0:13:32.230 There's nothing I can do about it. It's making me 0:13:32.290 --> 0:13:35.109 sad and scared. I have to go about my day. 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.050 And maybe they say you guys. 0:13:37.890 --> 0:13:40.849 Should shut up about this for that reason. I don't know. 0:13:41.410 --> 0:13:45.190 There's some role for the electorate to play, isn't there, though, 0:13:45.250 --> 0:13:47.730 in guiding this a little bit? Like when we found 0:13:47.790 --> 0:13:50.690 out Friday that the leaders of Anthropic are talking to 0:13:50.750 --> 0:13:55.809 religious leaders so they can give Claude morality. I think 0:13:55.850 --> 0:13:58.370 we should know that before we get into the whole 0:13:58.390 --> 0:14:01.090 what kind of guidelines the government should put on these 0:14:01.130 --> 0:14:01.890 companies or whatever. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.660 And the people in Anthropic are saying, you know, it 0:14:04.700 --> 0:14:06.900 may be conscious. It may have rights. We need to 0:14:07.100 --> 0:14:11.030 really treat it well. I think those people are dangerous. 0:14:11.150 --> 0:14:13.930 Hell yes, they're dangerous. 0:14:14.190 --> 0:14:16.130 Crazy and dangerous. They're crangerous. 0:14:16.610 --> 0:14:21.190 Any thoughts on that? Text line 415-295-KFTC. Armstrong and Getty. 0:14:29.620 --> 0:14:31.340 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:14:34.390 --> 0:14:42.130 It is a miracle that that attempted hijacking didn't work 0:14:42.190 --> 0:14:45.050 out the way the guy wanted it to. With that 0:14:45.450 --> 0:14:51.200 flight full of Israelis last week. Now that we know 0:14:51.220 --> 0:14:53.800 the stories, because the pilot lived, the hijacker lived. So 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.740 now we have a lot of details about it. But 0:14:55.780 --> 0:15:02.620 that jihadist said, I need to pray. Pilot says, sure, 0:15:02.660 --> 0:15:07.190 go ahead. Jihadi grabs an axe, hits pilot in the 0:15:07.210 --> 0:15:08.990 back of the head with the idea of I'm going 0:15:09.010 --> 0:15:10.630 to kill him or knock him out, take over the 0:15:10.650 --> 0:15:14.910 plane and fly it into the terminal at the airport 0:15:14.930 --> 0:15:16.530 in Tel Aviv and kill a lot of people. 0:15:17.090 --> 0:15:21.060 Whether you're talking about Islamic fundamentalism or neo-Marxism or whatever, 0:15:21.180 --> 0:15:25.500 the extremist fundamentalist philosophy, they're looking for simplicity and certainty. 0:15:25.580 --> 0:15:29.060 People just like that. And John Cleese, the great thinker 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.489 and comedian... And Ryder said this a number of years ago, 0:15:33.530 --> 0:15:35.590 but it is absolutely perfect. 0:15:36.150 --> 0:15:40.030 Seriously, though, we've heard a lot about extremism recently. A nastier, 0:15:40.150 --> 0:15:44.930 harsher atmosphere everywhere, more abuse and bother-boy behavior, less friendliness 0:15:44.990 --> 0:15:48.150 and tolerance and respect for opponents. All right, but what 0:15:48.170 --> 0:15:53.060 we never hear about extremism is its advantages. Well, the 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.440 biggest advantage of extremism is that it makes you feel 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:01.070 good because it provides you with enemies. Let me explain. 0:16:02.090 --> 0:16:04.350 The great thing about having enemies is that you can 0:16:04.410 --> 0:16:07.190 pretend that all the badness in the whole world is 0:16:07.250 --> 0:16:09.850 in your enemies, and all the goodness in the whole 0:16:09.910 --> 0:16:13.910 world is in you. Attractive, isn't it? So, if you 0:16:13.980 --> 0:16:16.060 have a lot of anger and resentment in you anyway, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.580 and you therefore enjoy abusing people, then you can pretend 0:16:19.620 --> 0:16:22.040 that you're only doing it because these enemies of yours 0:16:22.100 --> 0:16:25.560 are such very bad persons, and that if it wasn't 0:16:25.580 --> 0:16:28.820 for them, you'd actually be good-natured and courteous and rational 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.670 all the time. So, if you want to feel good, 0:16:32.710 --> 0:16:36.850 become an extremist. Okay. Now you have a choice. If 0:16:36.870 --> 0:16:39.760 you join the hard left, they'll give you their list 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.040 of authorized enemies. Almost all kinds of authority, especially the police, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:52.800 the city, Americans, judges, multinational corporations, public schools, furriers, newspaper owners, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:59.430 fox hunters, generals, class traitors, and, of course, moderates. Now, 0:17:00.550 --> 0:17:03.440 Once you're armed with one of these super lists of enemies, 0:17:03.780 --> 0:17:05.880 you can be as nasty as you like and yet 0:17:06.020 --> 0:17:10.000 feel your behaviors morally justified. So you can strut around 0:17:10.180 --> 0:17:12.530 abusing people and telling them you could eat them for 0:17:12.570 --> 0:17:15.210 breakfast and still think of yourself as a champion of 0:17:15.230 --> 0:17:18.450 the truth, a fighter for the greater good, and not 0:17:18.510 --> 0:17:21.439 the rather sad paranoid schizoid that you really are. 0:17:21.940 --> 0:17:22.720 Hundred percent. 0:17:23.609 --> 0:17:24.710 Oh, absolutely right. 0:17:24.790 --> 0:17:30.200 Yeah, he's paraphrasing Aldous Huxley, who talked about to abuse people, 0:17:30.619 --> 0:17:33.740 but feel like you're morally righteous in doing it, is 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.220 the most, what did he call it, the height of 0:17:36.340 --> 0:17:40.419 psychological luxury, the most delicious. 0:17:39.810 --> 0:17:40.639 Of moral traits. 0:17:44.690 --> 0:17:46.530 Yeah, that was really, really good. 0:17:47.170 --> 0:17:49.410 They're entirely wrong, and we're entirely right. 0:17:49.550 --> 0:17:50.070 It's just. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.100 the fact that this comes out of universities where people 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.040 are allegedly being trained to think through things and learn 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.040 various perspectives and all is a bitter, bitter, bitter irony. 0:18:00.340 --> 0:18:02.619 Well, it's tough when you're up against something that, as 0:18:02.660 --> 0:18:04.220 he points out there, feels so good. 0:18:05.940 --> 0:18:06.100 Yeah. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:06.520 Yeah. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:07.720 It feels so good for them. 0:18:08.020 --> 0:18:08.200 Yeah. 0:18:10.090 --> 0:18:10.270 Yeah. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.070 I just sneezed again. I got that Russian plague. 0:18:13.090 --> 0:18:15.090 Yeah. I'm sorry. 0:18:15.190 --> 0:18:17.930 My Russian girlfriend gave it to me and I came in, 0:18:18.010 --> 0:18:19.630 even though I sneezed and I thought it was allergies. 0:18:20.070 --> 0:18:22.210 So, Now we're probably all dead. 0:18:23.150 --> 0:18:25.750 But if we last through this brief break, we'll talk 0:18:25.770 --> 0:18:27.650 to you about Islamic extremism and. 0:18:27.609 --> 0:18:30.330 How more and more people around the globe are calling 0:18:30.369 --> 0:18:30.710 it out. 0:18:31.970 --> 0:18:38.500 Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:43.020 --> 0:18:45.780 At that moment, I was fighting for my life. But 0:18:45.820 --> 0:18:48.200 there was a moment when I realized I had fallen 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.700 down due to my injuries. And I realized that if 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.500 I don't get up, I've been a pilot for 17 years. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.590 I've been a captain for the past 11 years. I 0:18:56.609 --> 0:18:59.149 know what's happening in a flight, even with my eyes closed. 0:18:59.869 --> 0:19:01.909 When I was on the ground, I realized that the 0:19:01.970 --> 0:19:05.230 aircraft is going down. And I told myself, this is 0:19:05.270 --> 0:19:08.500 the last push, Smith. The door is right there. And 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.359 I was still getting hit, but I opened the door. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.320 And everyone else who helped was just as incremental to 0:19:13.340 --> 0:19:13.800 this effort. 0:19:13.980 --> 0:19:16.340 God, the guy was still bashing him with the axe. 0:19:18.510 --> 0:19:21.850 With his last effort, the pilot got that door open 0:19:22.190 --> 0:19:25.129 so some people could get in, like the plumber. The 0:19:25.170 --> 0:19:28.730 more details we get on this, the more miraculous that 0:19:28.770 --> 0:19:31.669 this didn't end up in the tragedy it was supposed 0:19:31.710 --> 0:19:36.209 to be. As this dude had smashed the instruments also. 0:19:36.859 --> 0:19:38.659 So when the pilots got in there, they had to 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.460 fly the plane and land it with no instruments to use. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.520 And the plane had been going at a speed where 0:19:44.540 --> 0:19:46.920 the plane is not supposed to be able to survive 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:47.520 that at all. 0:19:48.220 --> 0:19:48.490 Right. 0:19:48.970 --> 0:19:51.620 I mean, there's all kinds of reasons why that shouldn't 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:57.760 have worked out, and it did. So, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand 0:19:57.859 --> 0:20:01.160 wore a hijab during a visit to a Bronx mosque 0:20:01.220 --> 0:20:05.040 last week. She sat alongside a cleric who once celebrated 0:20:05.060 --> 0:20:08.280 Hamas for causing so much trouble for the Jews. and 0:20:08.300 --> 0:20:13.200 has hailed Osama bin Laden's spiritual mentor. Gillibrand, who shares 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.660 the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, kowtowed to the folks there 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.160 and followed all their rules and made it clear she was. 0:20:20.100 --> 0:20:21.959 Respectful of them. What does that have to do with 0:20:21.980 --> 0:20:22.940 the airplane, you're asking? 0:20:23.180 --> 0:20:28.229 Well, thankfully, there are more and more people across the 0:20:28.270 --> 0:20:32.570 West who either have broken free of their fear or 0:20:32.990 --> 0:20:36.640 their fear of being ostracized. and are saying what we've 0:20:36.660 --> 0:20:40.129 been saying for a very long time. The most significant 0:20:40.210 --> 0:20:46.670 political movement on earth is fundamentalist Islam. And if you 0:20:47.010 --> 0:20:50.149 are cowed into thinking, well, it's a religion, we have 0:20:50.210 --> 0:20:52.429 freedom of religion, I don't want to be a bigot, whatever, 0:20:52.470 --> 0:20:55.679 so I'm not allowed to talk about that, you're contributing 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.700 to what could be an enormous pivot in the history 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.420