WEBVTT - Shengys Back On Trial

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<v Speaker 1>Something's not right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime is up all over the state.

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<v Speaker 1>The homelessness in the city is out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>The economy is sick.

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<v Speaker 3>Taxes are high.

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<v Speaker 4>Housing is expensive and businesses are leaving. California needs fixing.

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<v Speaker 4>And John Phillips is just the man to lead the charge.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Fix California Hour with John Phillips and Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Fix California Hour on the John Phillips Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny's on vacation. It's Randy Wang here. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>join us in the chat room at JohnnyDon'tLike.com. That's Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>with a Y. JohnnyDon'tLike.com where you can comment on the

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<v Speaker 2>news of the day. Chat with your fellow listeners. Make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of me. Make fun of each other. Do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like to. Make fun of Johnny because he's on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having a great time here until 3 o'clock every

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<v Speaker 2>single day at johnnydontlike.com. I have to stop pre-promoting guests.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm cursed. I usually don't do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of days I do it and then

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<v Speaker 2>something happens. We're supposed to have Joey Tucci on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also just saw that he was at a

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<v Speaker 2>puppy town hall with Steve Hilton in downtown LA just

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes ago. So maybe he's busy. So if

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<v Speaker 2>he joins us, great. If he doesn't, we'll get him

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<v Speaker 2>another time. But I really like talking to that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>even though some of it's very hard to hear because

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<v Speaker 2>the things that he has witnessed and documented in Skid

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<v Speaker 2>Row is just, I mean, I use the term unacceptable

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<v Speaker 2>a lot on this show. But the kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that we tolerate in the city of Los Angeles in

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<v Speaker 2>the name of equity or because people are experiencing poverty,

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<v Speaker 2>it is so insane to me. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>you're going through. If you torture a dog, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be in prison. It should be that simple. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the out-of-control animal shelter crisis that we have in Los Angeles...

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that we're not going after anybody who's illegally

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<v Speaker 2>breeding dogs shows you that nobody cares. And it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask Joey, too, about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he just put out a video where earlier he

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<v Speaker 2>said that he doesn't like his choices in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was going to suck it up for vote

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<v Speaker 2>for Bass, even though he's been a disaster. He put

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<v Speaker 2>out a video today, said he's not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He cannot in good conscience vote for Karen Bass. And

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<v Speaker 2>if your big issue is animal welfare, I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>one bit because she has been a complete failure on

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<v Speaker 2>this pretends to address the issue, completely ignores it. She's

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<v Speaker 2>endorsed by Isabel Harado, who according to Joey has been

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<v Speaker 2>a even bigger disaster, does not care at all. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>cares about the dogs on skid row. Nobody cares about

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs in that encampment underground in our Lita. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>in elected office actually cares about animals and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong to say this, but I'm going to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Me as a dog lover, I'd rather my money go

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<v Speaker 2>to you taking care of the dogs than giving any

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<v Speaker 2>more money than a drug addicts because the dogs are innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>The drug addicts are not. I have some compassion for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we would stop enabling their habits and put

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<v Speaker 2>them in a place where they can get clean and

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't do that. So I would take just

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<v Speaker 2>a small portion of the money that we're using to

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<v Speaker 2>indefinitely house people in motels. And I would use it

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up our pathetic animal shelter system. But if

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<v Speaker 2>Joey dials in, we'll get into all that for now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to move on. There was a massive fraud

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<v Speaker 2>bust yesterday in Southern California and the Fed's announcing a

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<v Speaker 2>huge Medi-Cal scheme where a doctor and a chiropractor were

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<v Speaker 2>performing unnecessary surgery on victimized patients so they could bill

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare for millions and millions and millions of dollars. For

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<v Speaker 2>more on this, we go to Fox 11. in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 5>Zanna Chiropractor is among several health care professionals arrested and

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<v Speaker 5>charged in alleged health care fraud schemes. The Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Justice says collectively the schemes amount to two billion dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in losses. Fox 11's Rachel Aragon live in Tarzana with

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<v Speaker 5>a closer look at the alleged crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Christine, yeah, we know right now several defendants, in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>are being accused of a variety of health care schemes,

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<v Speaker 3>including billing Medicare for unnecessary procedures. But right here in Tarzana,

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<v Speaker 3>we know one of those early morning raids happening here

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<v Speaker 3>for one of the defendants who's been accused of just that,

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<v Speaker 3>billing Medicare for procedures patients did not ask for.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, this doctor billed so much fraudulent Medicare money they

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<v Speaker 2>could afford a home in the Tarzana Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people may.

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<v Speaker 6>Ask, is it necessary to go out and arrest a

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<v Speaker 6>chiropractor or a doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They are just as much a criminal as a bank robber.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they're worse.

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<v Speaker 3>First Assistant US Attorney Bill Sandley is talking about this man,

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<v Speaker 3>61 year old chiropractor Dr.

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<v Speaker 2>Haney Malek.

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<v Speaker 3>Malek arrested Thursday morning in Tarzana for his alleged involvement

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<v Speaker 3>in a $ 135 million Medicare fraud scheme. He and surgeon Dr.

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<v Speaker 3>Hill to be both accused of learning patients and subjecting

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<v Speaker 3>them to unnecessary invasive procedures across several LA based clinics.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always been this talk of you assume that if

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the dentist, And there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>reputable dentists out there. I love my dentist. But you

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<v Speaker 2>always are under the assumption, or I've had it once before,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd switch dentists because one dentist said I had to

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<v Speaker 2>have my wisdom teeth out and it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an expensive procedure and cost a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>and bill my insurance. I got a second opinion and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, no, you don't. And my teeth are much

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<v Speaker 2>better now. But think of that on the much more

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<v Speaker 2>invasive scale of doctors claiming that you need surgery when

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, because if they cut you open, they can

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<v Speaker 2>bill millions and millions of dollars. Look, I've said it

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<v Speaker 2>before and I'll say it again. Our health care system.

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible. And anyone who says they like our system

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<v Speaker 2>is full of it.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the worst type of healthcare fraud because you

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<v Speaker 6>have doctors who are supposed to be doing no harm.

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<v Speaker 2>They are putting their financial interests again over the interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of their patients.

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<v Speaker 3>Neighbors in Tarzana reacting to the fraud allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not shocked at all because of all the Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>fraud that I'm hearing about right now. It's really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday's federal rate in Tarzana, part of a larger takedown.

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<v Speaker 3>The DOJ charging.

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<v Speaker 2>15... Hey, one of those was a hospice. We know

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<v Speaker 2>about all those kinds of frauds.

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<v Speaker 3>People for a variety of healthcare fraud schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>California takes fraud seriously. Oh yeah, this was the funniest

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<v Speaker 2>thing yesterday. So... The feds make this big bust, some

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<v Speaker 2>huge cases, including that chiropractor in Tarzana. And then our

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<v Speaker 2>attorney general, who is usually asleep at the wheel on

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this, Babathi Banta, throws together a hastily put

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<v Speaker 2>together press conference, say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going after fraud all the time. We just don't make

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal about it. And no, they're not. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to wonder how much of our costs, all the

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<v Speaker 2>money that we spend, all the money we put into

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<v Speaker 2>health care, whether it's the private plans, it's Medi-Cal, it's Medicare,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Medicaid, what have you. How much does all of

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<v Speaker 2>this really cost if you got rid of all the

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<v Speaker 2>fraud that is out there?

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<v Speaker 3>About an hour after the federal officials held their press conference,

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<v Speaker 3>California Attorney General Rob Bonta held a separate press conference

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<v Speaker 3>announcing results of a statewide Medi-Cal fraud sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice how Bobathee and Bill Asseli are never in the

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<v Speaker 2>same room together, and Bobathee is always playing catch-up, saying, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing our job, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Bonta claiming that the state was not giving credit for

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<v Speaker 3>their involvement in the federal government's crackdown on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>While the White House spreads myths about rampant fraud... It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a myth. We literally have all these arrests and

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<v Speaker 2>the fraud is pretty rampant if doctors can make billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars off of it. But this is Bob Bonta. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's people that are being arrested for voting illegally. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that shows there's no proof of it. Oh, there's people

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<v Speaker 2>being arrested for fraud. Well, that shows that the fraud

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<v Speaker 2>is a myth. And look, Bob Bonta is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go after fraud aggressively because Bob Bonta is compromised.

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<v Speaker 2>He is one of several very corrupt attorney generals. He

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<v Speaker 2>has been doing all kinds of self-dealing and pay for

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<v Speaker 2>play politics. And of course, he's not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>after the real problem here. We'll keep dispelling them, not

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<v Speaker 2>with words, but with work.

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<v Speaker 3>Asaley claimed the state should not be allowing this elect

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<v Speaker 3>for medical fraud in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>California regulates doctors.

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<v Speaker 6>These doctors should never have been in practice this long.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got, I got some news for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to know how the medical board actually works? We've

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<v Speaker 2>done plenty of stories of corrupt crooked doctors, including that

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<v Speaker 2>woman that got convicted for the fake butt implants and

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<v Speaker 2>she still kept her medical license.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we can tell you, though, federal officials have not

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<v Speaker 3>disclosed the number of patients that underwent those unnecessary procedures,

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<v Speaker 3>according to prosecutors. But they did tell us that some

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<v Speaker 3>are still in pain and underwent more than one of

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of procedures. Pretty Life in Tarzana tonight. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Rachel Aragon. I'll send it back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And these weren't just like simple procedures. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>like different kinds of heart procedures, like cutting people open

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<v Speaker 2>and doing all kinds of things that they didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to do because they could bill Medicare for it or

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<v Speaker 2>they could bill Medi-Cal for it. Our healthcare system is garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any it's better anywhere else. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's awful everywhere, but our system is terrible. People pay

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<v Speaker 2>through the nose for insurance and are afraid to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>The fraudsters are able to bill for millions and millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of dollars. If you make no money, you

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<v Speaker 2>have better coverage than people that are working for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just an insane system that we have here.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that we don't crack down on the fraud,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that we have, thanks to reports from Nick Shirley,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to reports from CBS news investigates, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you have a section of van eyes on victory Boulevard

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<v Speaker 2>that houses 70 different hospice facilities, most of them with

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<v Speaker 2>non-existent phone numbers, not actually taking patients. You have nobody watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what? For a long time, the feds

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<v Speaker 2>weren't paying attention as well. It was just rubber stamping

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<v Speaker 2>all this money going out the door. The state has

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<v Speaker 2>done this themselves as well. Whether you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the fraud that's at Medi-Cal, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the rampant fraud that we saw during COVID when

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<v Speaker 2>EDD was given out ridiculous amounts of money to criminals

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<v Speaker 2>and not giving it to the people who legitimately needed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that, of course, was something that was brought up

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<v Speaker 2>years before COVID in an audit that, hey, our system

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<v Speaker 2>is ripe for fraud and nobody cares. Nobody cares because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not their money. So who cares if it's just

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<v Speaker 2>all going out the door, even though this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason that it gets more and more expensive

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<v Speaker 2>every single day. And I just love the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Bonta getting so offended that nobody thinks he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>his job. even though he'll still probably win for reelection,

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<v Speaker 2>that he has to put together his own press conference

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<v Speaker 2>to say, no, no, no, we're going after this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I just don't talk about it as much

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<v Speaker 2>as me suing the federal government a hundred times or

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<v Speaker 2>my pathetic attempt to derail the Skydance merger.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Bonta.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Bonta, you know, he, I didn't want to play it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, really didn't because I've had enough of him

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<v Speaker 2>this week. But he sat down for a 10-minute interview

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<v Speaker 2>on KTLA. And for 10 minutes, he went there and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how great he is at his job and

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<v Speaker 2>was asked, well, why didn't you run for governor? I

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<v Speaker 2>know why he didn't run for governor. In case you're

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<v Speaker 2>wondering why Bob Bonta didn't run for governor, he was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it. He was telling donors, hey, I'm running

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<v Speaker 2>for governor. He was lining everything up. And then Oakland

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Sheng Tao got indicted. Well, at that point, she

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<v Speaker 2>was former Oakland mayor, Shang Tao and Bob Bonta spent

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<v Speaker 2>$ 500, 000 of his campaign money on high priced private attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>to help him while he was being deposed. First, he

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<v Speaker 2>lied about it and said that he hired those attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>to assist the feds in their investigation. Then he backed

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<v Speaker 2>away and said, no, it's because I was being deposed.

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<v Speaker 2>And he knew that that while there's a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of attention paid on you if you're running for statewide office,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nothing compared to what happens when you're running for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>especially going through a brutal primary. I mean, look how

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<v Speaker 2>long Eric Swalwell was able to operate doing all the

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<v Speaker 2>horrific things he had done to staffers and other women

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<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years as a sitting member

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<v Speaker 2>of Congress. He could have probably kept doing that for

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<v Speaker 2>another two decades, but he ran for governor. And then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, a lot more attention is being

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<v Speaker 2>paid to him. And then it all came out. The

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<v Speaker 2>things that people knew for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 2>And while we do make a joke about it, there

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<v Speaker 2>really is something going on with Bob Bonta's hair. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I rewind it in the piece where I have Bonta

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<v Speaker 2>on the screen. Let me see where I have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see where I have Bonta in here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Bonta's hair. Look how white it has gotten

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<v Speaker 2>in just the last two years. That is straight up guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>That is him knowing that at some point, maybe during

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<v Speaker 2>this five week trial in the city of Oakland, that

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<v Speaker 2>the other shoe was going to drop because don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>The two people that are on trial next to Shang-Yi

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<v Speaker 2>and her boyfriend are David and Andy Dong, who are

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest benefactors of Bob Bonta. They've donated more money

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<v Speaker 2>to him than anybody else. And he, when he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the assembly, crafted legislation to specifically help the Dong family.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Bonta.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Randy Wang on The John Phillips Show. It's The

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<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Show. Johnny's on vacation and he'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. And we have such a busy couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks for you here because Johnny will be back on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be lots of updates of the Shangi

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<v Speaker 2>trial by then. And then Thursday night, we both fly

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<v Speaker 2>up to the Bay Area so we can be in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco for our first big live remote in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area. We're going to Johnny Foley's Irish Pub in

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<v Speaker 2>Union Square next Friday from noon to three, a week

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<v Speaker 2>from today. And if you're in the Bay Area, we

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<v Speaker 2>really want to see you. Johnny Foley's easily accessible by BART, Muni.

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<v Speaker 2>You could take the ferry to the Embarcadero and then

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<v Speaker 2>take Muni down from there. You could take a Waymo.

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<v Speaker 2>We just, we would love to have you. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an exciting time. We've got a lot of guests,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Bay Area guests who I'm excited because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've met any of these people in

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<v Speaker 2>person before. But one person who's going to be there

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<v Speaker 2>that I've met in person many, many, many times is

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<v Speaker 2>our friend Susan Shelley from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be spreading the word about Proposition 43.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it as the Local Taxpayer Protection Act. The

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<v Speaker 2>courts have made it a lot easier to raise your taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>It has led to devastating tax increases like Measure ULA

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<v Speaker 2>in the city of Los Angeles. And we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of those loopholes. Prop 43 makes it

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<v Speaker 2>harder to raise your taxes. A yes on 43 makes

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<v Speaker 2>it harder to raise your taxes. It's as simple as that. So...

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<v Speaker 2>We're very excited for y'all to come down and join us.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get a free yard sign, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get one in person. I also, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>stack of those Johnny don't like.com bumper stickers that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring to San Francisco. So you can get

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<v Speaker 2>one of those. One of our listeners made those for

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<v Speaker 2>us because we don't actually have a marketing department here

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<v Speaker 2>or a budget to do anything, but I'm very excited

0:17:20.420 --> 0:17:23.370
<v Speaker 2>to be down there. So Johnny Foley's Irish pub from

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<v Speaker 2>noon to three next Friday. We would love to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have a weekend. I'll be partying around

0:17:29.930 --> 0:17:33.129
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. I already, I already have like all the

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<v Speaker 2>list of all the places we need to go eat

0:17:34.970 --> 0:17:38.149
<v Speaker 2>while we're there. Lovely's burgers and coal Valley. They also

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<v Speaker 2>have a location in Oakland, Tony's pizza and a Polo Donna.

0:17:41.970 --> 0:17:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I really like that otherwise brewing in North Beach. That

0:17:44.540 --> 0:17:48.600
<v Speaker 2>place is really good. El Lopo is this great tapas

0:17:48.660 --> 0:17:51.500
<v Speaker 2>bar in Knob Hill. That place is so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have legit vermouth. And I do love me

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<v Speaker 2>some vermouth. I looked it up because we went to

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<v Speaker 2>Madrid over last winter. And we were on such a

0:18:00.270 --> 0:18:02.409
<v Speaker 2>vermouth kick that I was like, I wonder if there

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<v Speaker 2>are any vermouth bars in San Francisco. And El Lopo,

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic one. Go into the Ferry Building for sure because...

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<v Speaker 2>There's a great little wine shop where you can get

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<v Speaker 2>a wine or a beer while you're just sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ferry Building. But there's also a great bakery,

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<v Speaker 2>a gluten-free bakery. My wife is gluten-free, so we're excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that. It is a great food city, and we

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.439
<v Speaker 2>love being able to get around. Maybe it's because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>from Los Angeles, and L.A. is the antithesis of a

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<v Speaker 2>walkable city that I get so enchanted by a walkable city.

0:18:38.510 --> 0:18:40.790
<v Speaker 2>And a walkable city that's much safer. I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a true story. I was at Pilates this

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<v Speaker 2>morning and I had mentioned to my Friday trainer, Daniela,

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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't going to be there next Friday because

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go to San Francisco. And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, is that safe? I heard everyone's car gets

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<v Speaker 2>broken into. And I had to tell her at one

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 2>point it was like that during the London breed years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely like that, but it has greatly improved.

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Union Square specifically was like the epicenter of all the

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<v Speaker 2>car break-ins. They're way down. I stayed in Union Square

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<v Speaker 2>in May, and I was shocked how clean it was.

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.260
<v Speaker 2>You know, the business improvement districts down there, they literally

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<v Speaker 2>hire people to just sweep and pick up the trash,

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<v Speaker 2>something that I see in other cities around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>like Madrid, like Dublin, like Amsterdam. And they really, the

0:19:35.430 --> 0:19:38.629
<v Speaker 2>city is clean, as long as you don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Tenderloin, the Mission, or SOMA. The rest of the

0:19:41.660 --> 0:19:44.330
<v Speaker 2>city looks great, and I think it is a heck

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of fun. So join us. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you have, you're in the Southern California area, it's cheap

0:19:50.260 --> 0:19:53.820
<v Speaker 2>to fly up there. You can even drive, go and joke,

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<v Speaker 2>go see what San Francisco is like. San Francisco to

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<v Speaker 2>me is one of the best food cities in the

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<v Speaker 2>entire state of California and explore it for yourself. It's

0:20:02.460 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 2>also got great walking, great hiking. You want to really

0:20:06.340 --> 0:20:10.790
<v Speaker 2>challenge yourself. Try walking up Leavenworth, Some of the steepest

0:20:10.850 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 2>streets I've ever walked up my entire life. We did it.

0:20:15.650 --> 0:20:17.590
<v Speaker 2>And then we felt like we earned a giant breakfast

0:20:17.630 --> 0:20:20.060
<v Speaker 2>burrito and it was great. We got an hour and

0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.189
<v Speaker 2>a half to go. So keep it right here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Randy Wang on the John Phillips show. It's the John

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Phillips show. It's Randy Wang here. And oh boy, have

0:20:30.420 --> 0:20:34.700
<v Speaker 2>we got an exciting week and a half ahead for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to San Francisco next Friday. Got our big, exciting

0:20:38.490 --> 0:20:41.450
<v Speaker 2>election special a week from Tuesday. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on KABC, KSFO, and KMJ from 7 to 9 p.m.

0:20:46.780 --> 0:20:50.179
<v Speaker 2>We'll also be doing it live on video, johnnydontlike.com from

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<v Speaker 2>7 to at least 10 p.m. That's right. We'll keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>If the results get really interesting, I will make everyone

0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.230
<v Speaker 2>stay awake because I'll be doing it from home, so

0:20:59.270 --> 0:21:02.470
<v Speaker 2>it's not like I have to go anywhere. So election night.

0:21:02.609 --> 0:21:06.270
<v Speaker 2>Spend it with us at johnnydontlike.com. And this weekend, if

0:21:06.290 --> 0:21:08.250
<v Speaker 2>you haven't had a chance to watch it yet, we

0:21:08.330 --> 0:21:11.830
<v Speaker 2>highly recommend you check out our latest episode of the

0:21:11.890 --> 0:21:16.970
<v Speaker 2>Accountability Podcast, where John Phillips and myself went down to

0:21:16.990 --> 0:21:18.810
<v Speaker 2>the Tijuana River Valley.

0:21:18.830 --> 0:21:20.340
<v Speaker 1>You can smell it right here.

0:21:20.540 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 2>We smelled it. And we were lucky it hadn't rained

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.020
<v Speaker 2>in a while because it would have smelled way worse.

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.379
<v Speaker 2>I bet you it smells real bad this week. The

0:21:32.420 --> 0:21:37.990
<v Speaker 2>city of Los Angeles... likes to study things over and

0:21:38.250 --> 0:21:42.179
<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. And one of the

0:21:42.220 --> 0:21:45.820
<v Speaker 2>things the city of Los Angeles wants to always study is,

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<v Speaker 2>should we have our own public bank? Because, you know,

0:21:52.460 --> 0:21:56.390
<v Speaker 2>banking is so out of reach for certain people. The

0:21:56.450 --> 0:21:59.890
<v Speaker 2>city should be the one to loan people money. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even help people get a mortgage at a lower rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see... Why this is a terrible idea, here is

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<v Speaker 2>Fox 11.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight, a debate over a proposed city-owned bank controversy. A

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<v Speaker 5>study on it would cost nearly half a million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>for the study.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the L.A. city-owned bank would be FDIC-insured? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, because it's definitely going belly up.

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<v Speaker 5>Bank passes, we could be the first U.S. city with

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<v Speaker 5>a public bank. Fox 11's Matthew Seedorf has more.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't even manage our own damn finances. You're not wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy Park.

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<v Speaker 1>He did emotions at LA city hall.

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<v Speaker 7>11 eyes, three nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Council members approving $ 460, 000 to study whether the city should

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<v Speaker 1>open its own public bank.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the crux of everything that's wrong with

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Los Angeles. Even just studying the idea,

0:22:57.790 --> 0:23:00.750
<v Speaker 2>which again, we've done before. I believe we've studied this

0:23:00.790 --> 0:23:04.670
<v Speaker 2>issue several times. We're going to spend, of your money

0:23:05.030 --> 0:23:07.830
<v Speaker 2>of literally my money, because I live in the city

0:23:07.850 --> 0:23:10.450
<v Speaker 2>of Los Angeles. So my tax dollars go to fund this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not even talking about creating a bank. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about spending $ 400, 000 to study creating a bank. We spend

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<v Speaker 2>so much money studying ideas, hiring consultants. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talk right now about one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big divides in the LA mayor's race is that Karen

0:23:33.630 --> 0:23:36.350
<v Speaker 2>Bass got the city council to go through with the

0:23:36.570 --> 0:23:39.910
<v Speaker 2>overhaul of the LA convention center. And Nithya said, that's

0:23:39.950 --> 0:23:43.470
<v Speaker 2>a waste of money. Well, one of the reasons that

0:23:43.510 --> 0:23:45.630
<v Speaker 2>certain members of the LA city council, I believe Tracy

0:23:45.670 --> 0:23:47.470
<v Speaker 2>park was the one to make this point said, well,

0:23:47.490 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>we just should go ahead and put the shovel in

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:53.100
<v Speaker 2>the ground is because they've been talking about redoing the

0:23:53.140 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 2>convention center for over a decade. And in 10 years

0:23:56.740 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 2>from 2016 to 2026, they had spent. $ 60 million on consultants,

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 2>even though not one shovel ever got in the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>There is so much grifting at so many different levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me why it costs $ 400, 000 to do a study

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<v Speaker 2>on if having a public bank makes any sense. This

0:24:22.170 --> 0:24:24.649
<v Speaker 2>is the insanity that we live with. And these are

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<v Speaker 2>also the fiscal wizards that are constantly in budget deficits

0:24:28.710 --> 0:24:30.530
<v Speaker 2>that now want to be in charge of banking.

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<v Speaker 5>A public bank has the potential to help finance affordable housing.

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<v Speaker 2>Isabel Jurado is quickly on track to be the worst

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<v Speaker 2>member of the L.A. City Council. I know for many

0:24:40.369 --> 0:24:42.230
<v Speaker 2>years we thought it was Eunice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes!

0:24:43.190 --> 0:24:45.770
<v Speaker 2>Or we thought it was Hugo Soto Martinez.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let's criminalize catalystic converters.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's criminalize copper. But all the stories that I've heard

0:24:50.710 --> 0:24:54.010
<v Speaker 2>about her, whether it's her non-reaction to what happened in

0:24:54.070 --> 0:24:59.730
<v Speaker 2>Boyle Heights or what happened in the daily destruction that

0:24:59.770 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>we see in Skid Row, She is uniquely terrible. And

0:25:04.140 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>what does it say when all the people who are

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>worried about the DSA have no issue with the fact

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>that the most destructive DSA people on the city council

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<v Speaker 2>all have their hands on Bass? They've all said yes

0:25:20.910 --> 0:25:24.830
<v Speaker 2>to Bass, and they all got something for it. Eunice's

0:25:25.130 --> 0:25:29.810
<v Speaker 2>got needles and pipes to get passed out at MacArthur Park.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.889
<v Speaker 2>You had Hugo Soto Martinez. What did he get for

0:25:34.930 --> 0:25:38.070
<v Speaker 2>his endorsement of Karen Bass? He doesn't have to enforce

0:25:38.150 --> 0:25:42.649
<v Speaker 2>homeless encampment ordinances anymore in his district. And Isabel Gerardo

0:25:42.730 --> 0:25:46.220
<v Speaker 2>is now in charge of the homelessness department, despite being

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 2>the worst representation of homelessness in the entire city because

0:25:50.420 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>she's got Skid Row.

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<v Speaker 8>Support small businesses and invest in infrastructure that serves communities

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<v Speaker 8>instead of private profit.

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<v Speaker 9>Who in their right mind would do their financial.

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<v Speaker 3>Business and banking with the bank of the city of LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't she run for maybe in 2030, she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to run for mayor. And Tracy park is doing this

0:26:11.830 --> 0:26:14.210
<v Speaker 2>thing that a lot of other people did where they're

0:26:14.230 --> 0:26:16.630
<v Speaker 2>not endorsing bass, but they're like, yeah, you should vote

0:26:16.650 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>for bass. But I really wish that And I understand it.

0:26:21.070 --> 0:26:23.990
<v Speaker 2>The odds are stacked against her, whether it's the unions

0:26:24.070 --> 0:26:29.210
<v Speaker 2>or the other special interests. But she really would be

0:26:29.290 --> 0:26:31.930
<v Speaker 2>a lone voice of common sense that would make a

0:26:32.030 --> 0:26:35.690
<v Speaker 2>much better mayor than what we have right now. Either option.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years ago, city council member and now mayoral candidate

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<v Speaker 1>Nithya Raman pushed for the same study and it passed.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, explain this to me. Three years ago, the

0:26:51.100 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 2>LA City Council voted to study this issue. So why

0:26:55.420 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>is it that three years later, we are now voting

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<v Speaker 2>to spend even more money to study this issue? There

0:27:02.390 --> 0:27:07.770
<v Speaker 2>is a massive, massive, corrupt world out there that all

0:27:07.850 --> 0:27:10.550
<v Speaker 2>it's about is doing different kinds of studies. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know how many years we studied, and this is something

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that I know way too much about, going back to 2020,

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.220
<v Speaker 2>Then City Councilman Meth Bonin got the City Council to

0:27:21.310 --> 0:27:24.850
<v Speaker 2>spend money to study if we should stop having law

0:27:24.869 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>enforcement do traffic stops. And they studied this idea for

0:27:29.460 --> 0:27:34.409
<v Speaker 2>five years, made all kinds of money studying it before

0:27:34.510 --> 0:27:36.750
<v Speaker 2>finally recommending that they implement it.

0:27:37.030 --> 0:27:40.409
<v Speaker 7>It's really exciting is that.

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<v Speaker 10>We have a potential to fill the gaps that a

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.620
<v Speaker 10>reliance on commercial banking has left us with.

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.260
<v Speaker 2>But with city budget issues, the half, how hard is

0:27:48.300 --> 0:27:51.659
<v Speaker 2>it to get a bank account? I mean, I guess

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>if you have no money, Then they're going to charge

0:27:54.180 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>you all kinds of fees. I remember what it was

0:27:56.420 --> 0:27:59.090
<v Speaker 2>like being broke and having to deal with overdraft fees.

0:27:59.170 --> 0:28:02.890
<v Speaker 2>But is it really hard to get a bank account?

0:28:02.910 --> 0:28:07.369
<v Speaker 1>Million dollar funding was eventually swept back into reserves.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to say, you know, that I am

0:28:09.410 --> 0:28:10.649
<v Speaker 3>in support of this study.

0:28:10.670 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Now with L.A. still facing a projected $ 100 million budget gap,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.580
<v Speaker 1>council members approved the $ 460, 000 study again. We're spending $ 400, 000

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>of your money.

0:28:23.700 --> 0:28:27.939
<v Speaker 2>To study something we've already studied. And these people are

0:28:27.980 --> 0:28:30.330
<v Speaker 2>the financial ad wizards that would like to be in

0:28:30.390 --> 0:28:31.270
<v Speaker 2>charge of banking.

0:28:31.530 --> 0:28:33.790
<v Speaker 1>What would this public bank look like?

0:28:34.050 --> 0:28:37.010
<v Speaker 11>A public bank is a financial institution owned by us,

0:28:37.090 --> 0:28:40.030
<v Speaker 11>the people, through the city of L.A. It holds public

0:28:40.070 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 11>revenues like taxes and fees. There are no shareholders. You

0:28:44.100 --> 0:28:46.900
<v Speaker 11>can't go to an ATM. You can't open a checking account.

0:28:47.300 --> 0:28:50.020
<v Speaker 2>Wait, so then how do you get cash out of

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the L.A. public bank? I'm sorry, what is the point

0:28:53.220 --> 0:28:56.470
<v Speaker 2>of this? I'm very confused.

0:28:57.210 --> 0:29:00.030
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a good idea. Well, some banking

0:29:00.090 --> 0:29:04.090
<v Speaker 1>experts warn it comes with risk. The use of taxpayer money,

0:29:05.830 --> 0:29:08.620
<v Speaker 1>the potential for political influence.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope that you'll all join me in enthusiastically voting

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 7>yes on this thing.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, with all the corrupt dealings that we know the L.A.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:19.060
<v Speaker 2>City Council has done for years and years and years...

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.260
<v Speaker 2>Do we really trust that if the city now has

0:29:25.380 --> 0:29:28.290
<v Speaker 2>ways that they can loan money to different projects, give

0:29:28.350 --> 0:29:30.910
<v Speaker 2>money to this interest, give money to this interest, that

0:29:30.910 --> 0:29:33.070
<v Speaker 2>it's really going to all be on the up and up?

0:29:33.070 --> 0:29:36.020
<v Speaker 2>How many members of this council have been indicted by

0:29:36.020 --> 0:29:37.010
<v Speaker 2>the FBI? Thank you. How?

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>We're going to borrow money from ourselves?

0:29:59.410 --> 0:30:02.910
<v Speaker 9>A million dollars for another consultant when we have streetlights

0:30:03.150 --> 0:30:06.690
<v Speaker 9>out across the city is ridiculous. Now, L.A.

0:30:06.690 --> 0:30:09.350
<v Speaker 1>'s mayor isn't part of city council votes, so we

0:30:09.370 --> 0:30:11.860
<v Speaker 1>reached out to her to see her opinion on this issue.

0:30:12.220 --> 0:30:15.260
<v Speaker 1>So far, we're still waiting to hear back. Matthew Cito reporting,

0:30:15.580 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Fox 11 News.

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.420
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. The city of L.A. doing what

0:30:20.460 --> 0:30:23.590
<v Speaker 2>they do best, wasting even more of your money to

0:30:24.250 --> 0:30:30.990
<v Speaker 2>study something that they have already studied. This is why

0:30:31.450 --> 0:30:33.990
<v Speaker 2>nothing works in the city of Los Angeles, why the

0:30:34.050 --> 0:30:38.130
<v Speaker 2>city is filthy. Again, Tracy Park put it in very

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>simple terms. We cannot fix streetlights, but we have $ 400, 000

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.820
<v Speaker 2>to study this stupid idea. I've said it before. I'll

0:30:49.860 --> 0:30:53.740
<v Speaker 2>say it again. The only vote you can do is

0:30:53.780 --> 0:30:57.380
<v Speaker 2>to vote with your feet and stop supporting this insanity.

0:30:58.320 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And that is what I would really like to do

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<v Speaker 2>It's Randy Wang on The John Phillips Show. It's The

0:31:04.850 --> 0:31:09.270
<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Show. It's Randy Wang here. Johnny's back on Monday,

0:31:09.390 --> 0:31:11.370
<v Speaker 2>and you can join us and play around in the

0:31:11.410 --> 0:31:14.090
<v Speaker 2>chat room and react to the insanity that we deal

0:31:14.130 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>with every single day at johnnydontlike.com. That's Johnny with a Y, johnnydontlike.com.

0:31:22.180 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we need a little Sheng Tao update.

0:31:27.500 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right. I like that. That was amazing. Shang-Yi's trial

0:31:32.020 --> 0:31:38.970
<v Speaker 2>has resumed, and an FBI agent had a little more

0:31:39.150 --> 0:31:43.630
<v Speaker 2>nuggets of knowledge of what was going on with this

0:31:43.730 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>crooked deal between Shang-Yi Tao and the Dong family. Oakland bees!

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>For more on this, we go to NBC in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 10>Specific, detailed, and intentional. That may be the best way

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<v Speaker 10>to describe today's developments in the ongoing federal corruption trial

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 10>for former Oakland Mayor Shang Tao. Today, an FBI agent

0:32:08.540 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 10>is back on the stand laying out evidence prosecutors say

0:32:11.580 --> 0:32:16.170
<v Speaker 10>connects Tao and her co-defendants to a bribery and wire

0:32:16.250 --> 0:32:21.030
<v Speaker 10>fraud scheme. Tao, her longtime partner Andre Jones, and businessman

0:32:21.470 --> 0:32:23.890
<v Speaker 10>David and Andy Duong are accused.

0:32:23.570 --> 0:32:24.190
<v Speaker 1>In this case.

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<v Speaker 10>NBC Bay Area's Lena Jones has been inside the courtroom

0:32:28.380 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 10>all day.

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<v Speaker 2>There is just a little part of me that wishes

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.670
<v Speaker 2>I could go up to the Bay Area early so

0:32:34.750 --> 0:32:37.650
<v Speaker 2>Johnny and I could go hang out in that courtroom

0:32:37.670 --> 0:32:39.270
<v Speaker 2>and just get a glimpse of Shangi.

0:32:40.690 --> 0:32:45.330
<v Speaker 9>Slow and methodical, that's how the prosecution is approaching this case.

0:32:45.390 --> 0:32:49.380
<v Speaker 9>Today was day two of testimony by FBI Special Agent

0:32:49.730 --> 0:32:54.580
<v Speaker 9>Catherine Barclay. Prosecutors are outlining digital and financial evidence they

0:32:54.620 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 9>believe directly connects the dots between the defendants and a

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.100
<v Speaker 9>fraud scheme. Prosecutors say phone records show Tao and Jones

0:33:02.180 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 9>communicated with businessman Mario Juarez on the same day Juarez

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:11.820
<v Speaker 9>requested negative campaign mailers targeting Tao's mayoral opponent.

0:33:11.980 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>What shows you that this really is the dumb mafia

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.690
<v Speaker 2>is that every single one of these idiotic schemes they

0:33:18.730 --> 0:33:22.150
<v Speaker 2>had in writing... It wasn't like they would go meet

0:33:22.230 --> 0:33:26.210
<v Speaker 2>somewhere and discuss this. They would text each other, here's

0:33:26.270 --> 0:33:28.990
<v Speaker 2>what we want, here's the crooked stuff that we're going

0:33:29.010 --> 0:33:32.290
<v Speaker 2>to get. And Andy happened to have a habit of

0:33:32.450 --> 0:33:37.950
<v Speaker 2>filming everything that was going on, including filming when Mario

0:33:37.990 --> 0:33:40.980
<v Speaker 2>Juarez is straight up admitting how they bribed the entire

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 2>city council to get that original contract for California Waste Solutions.

0:33:46.060 --> 0:33:48.180
<v Speaker 2>I want to make a movie about this whole thing.

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it dumb mafia.

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<v Speaker 9>Lauren Taylor, FBI special agent Catherine Barclay also testified that

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<v Speaker 9>texts between Juarez and another defendant, Andy Duong, included drafts

0:34:00.100 --> 0:34:03.850
<v Speaker 9>of the mailers and Juarez confirming he bought the website

0:34:03.910 --> 0:34:09.649
<v Speaker 9>called taylorfraud.com. Special Agent Barclay also pointed to a financial

0:34:09.710 --> 0:34:13.850
<v Speaker 9>trail showing California Waste Solutions, which is owned by the

0:34:13.890 --> 0:34:17.850
<v Speaker 9>Duong family, paid Juarez $ 75, 000.

0:34:17.070 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 7>And don't forget, this whole case started because the Duongs

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:32.770
<v Speaker 7>gave Mario Juarez $ 75, 000 for these racist mailers going after

0:34:32.830 --> 0:34:33.630
<v Speaker 7>Lauren Taylor.

0:34:34.650 --> 0:34:39.549
<v Speaker 2>And Mario Juarez hired a print shop to make those mailers.

0:34:40.930 --> 0:34:47.090
<v Speaker 2>And then Mario Juarez stiffed the contractor for $ 25, 000. He

0:34:47.130 --> 0:34:50.150
<v Speaker 2>got 75 grand. He was supposed to give the printer

0:34:50.150 --> 0:34:53.650
<v Speaker 2>25 grand, and he didn't. And it was the printer

0:34:54.290 --> 0:35:00.049
<v Speaker 2>that filed a complaint with the Oakland Ethics Commission that

0:35:00.110 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>eventually made its way to the attention of the federal government.

0:35:06.700 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It all goes back to that. And now Mario Juarez,

0:35:10.300 --> 0:35:14.370
<v Speaker 2>after the Fed started sniffing around and the Dongs allegedly

0:35:14.510 --> 0:35:16.989
<v Speaker 2>mugged him and then stole his property that was at

0:35:17.070 --> 0:35:20.870
<v Speaker 2>Andy Dong's house and then allegedly, allegedly hired a hitman

0:35:20.930 --> 0:35:24.390
<v Speaker 2>named Hermelindo Ramos Ramos to have a shootout with him.

0:35:25.150 --> 0:35:28.670
<v Speaker 2>He's now flipped and he's the star witness. But it

0:35:28.770 --> 0:35:31.270
<v Speaker 2>all starts with Mario Juarez.

0:35:31.430 --> 0:35:35.170
<v Speaker 9>That's the amount linked to the mailer campaign. Text messages

0:35:35.230 --> 0:35:38.250
<v Speaker 9>also appear to outline what prosecutors say was the broader deal.

0:35:38.670 --> 0:35:42.589
<v Speaker 9>Cash and help getting Tao elected. In exchange for 300

0:35:42.590 --> 0:35:47.270
<v Speaker 9>modular housing units, a 10-year city contract extension for California

0:35:47.310 --> 0:35:48.030
<v Speaker 9>Waste Solutions.

0:35:48.230 --> 0:35:51.210
<v Speaker 2>And this is again why I think we need a

0:35:51.489 --> 0:35:55.410
<v Speaker 2>full-on audit of every single city and county in the

0:35:55.469 --> 0:36:00.620
<v Speaker 2>state for who gets these contracts. For tiny homes? Who

0:36:00.660 --> 0:36:04.850
<v Speaker 2>gets these contracts for homeless shelters? Who gets these contracts

0:36:04.870 --> 0:36:07.569
<v Speaker 2>for all these kinds of things that we waste money

0:36:07.610 --> 0:36:11.910
<v Speaker 2>to help the homeless? Because Oakland almost did this. San

0:36:11.950 --> 0:36:14.850
<v Speaker 2>Leandro almost did this. Where they were going to spend

0:36:14.850 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>$ 300, 000 a pop for shipping containers. It was going to

0:36:21.060 --> 0:36:27.420
<v Speaker 2>be an incredibly lucrative venture for this very corrupt family.

0:36:28.140 --> 0:36:32.410
<v Speaker 9>And influence over city department appointments. In one message, Juarez

0:36:32.450 --> 0:36:35.790
<v Speaker 9>describes those terms to Andy Duong, who responds that nothing

0:36:35.850 --> 0:36:37.770
<v Speaker 9>is missing. In another message.

0:36:37.790 --> 0:36:40.870
<v Speaker 2>They literally are texting contracts to each other of all

0:36:40.910 --> 0:36:43.790
<v Speaker 2>the things that they're going to eventually get indicted for.

0:36:44.130 --> 0:36:47.779
<v Speaker 9>Andy tells Juarez... ain't nothing free or front because we

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.490
<v Speaker 9>did all that to help her win. Prosecutors say digital

0:36:51.530 --> 0:36:55.370
<v Speaker 9>data from Andy Duong's phone include pictures and videos showing

0:36:55.450 --> 0:36:59.030
<v Speaker 9>meetings with Tao and the Duongs, a speech by Mario

0:36:59.070 --> 0:37:01.189
<v Speaker 9>Juarez celebrating the alleged deal.

0:37:02.650 --> 0:37:07.110
<v Speaker 2>How dumb do you have to be to videotape the

0:37:07.850 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>person saying all the things that you're doing criminally? I mean,

0:37:12.420 --> 0:37:15.890
<v Speaker 2>the FBI had a case here, but I'm sure before

0:37:15.950 --> 0:37:21.230
<v Speaker 2>they confiscated Andy Dong's phone, it was mostly circumstantial. There

0:37:21.290 --> 0:37:24.090
<v Speaker 2>is just a treasure trove of evidence on that phone,

0:37:24.430 --> 0:37:26.850
<v Speaker 2>including all the stuff that they're not admitting into the trial,

0:37:26.890 --> 0:37:30.810
<v Speaker 2>which is most of the blackmail that Andy Dong was

0:37:30.850 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>doing to other Bay Area politicians at the Dong family's

0:37:34.340 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>karaoke bar in Oakland.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.340
<v Speaker 9>And photos of that alleged agreement. Tao Jones and the

0:37:40.380 --> 0:37:44.340
<v Speaker 9>Duongs have pleaded not guilty to conspiracy, bribery, and wire

0:37:44.380 --> 0:37:49.660
<v Speaker 9>fraud charges. Prosecutors are still questioning Special Agent Barclay. Defense

0:37:49.739 --> 0:37:54.180
<v Speaker 9>is expected to be able to cross-examine the FBI agent tomorrow.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 9>In Oakland, Valina Jones, NBC Bay Area News.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, in the city of Oakland, there is always the

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.050
<v Speaker 2>question of, hey, what are we ever going to do

0:38:04.410 --> 0:38:09.620
<v Speaker 2>with the Coliseum? You know. The area that lost the Warriors,

0:38:10.060 --> 0:38:13.140
<v Speaker 2>the area that lost the Raiders, and the area that

0:38:13.180 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>lost the A's.

0:38:14.780 --> 0:38:16.980
<v Speaker 1>And we still got our Oakland A's, baby.

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>And don't forget that before she was recalled and then indicted,

0:38:20.950 --> 0:38:24.310
<v Speaker 2>Sheng Tao was instrumental in this deal to sell the

0:38:24.370 --> 0:38:30.510
<v Speaker 2>Coliseum from the city to a company that had no money. Well...

0:38:30.910 --> 0:38:32.779
<v Speaker 2>There's still talk of what they're going to do to

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.860
<v Speaker 2>the Coliseum. Here is Kron 4. The venture to redevelop

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Oakland's Coliseum property say they're on track to get the

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>deal done before year's end.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 5>All right, our Kron 4's Dan Kerbin spoke with them

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:45.100
<v Speaker 5>this afternoon.

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that deal supposed to be done in 2024? Afternoon

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 2>and brings us the story. Here's what we expect to

0:38:51.940 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 2>do in Oakland.

0:38:54.660 --> 0:39:00.230
<v Speaker 8>Create a world class venue for people that want to

0:39:00.310 --> 0:39:04.610
<v Speaker 8>come and partake in the wonderful things that are available

0:39:04.770 --> 0:39:05.490
<v Speaker 8>in this city.

0:39:06.090 --> 0:39:11.090
<v Speaker 2>With what team? Oakland doesn't have a baseball team. Oakland

0:39:11.140 --> 0:39:14.100
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a basketball team. They don't have a WNBA team.

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 2>They don't have a football team and their soccer team

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:21.910
<v Speaker 2>just left. So who's playing there? Are you going to

0:39:21.950 --> 0:39:23.290
<v Speaker 2>put the Oakland Bees there?

0:39:26.530 --> 0:39:29.990
<v Speaker 6>This is loop capital CEO, Jim Reynolds speaking Thursday before

0:39:30.030 --> 0:39:34.089
<v Speaker 6>the Oakland African-American chamber of commerce about his vision for

0:39:34.110 --> 0:39:35.950
<v Speaker 6>the Oakland Coliseum complex.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.070
<v Speaker 2>We're all committed to getting this done by 1231.

0:39:40.070 --> 0:39:43.150
<v Speaker 8>And so, and as we sit here today, the pieces

0:39:43.190 --> 0:39:44.649
<v Speaker 8>are in place to actually get us there.

0:39:44.930 --> 0:39:47.370
<v Speaker 6>Reynolds spoke to Kron 4 along with Ray Bobbitt.

0:39:47.530 --> 0:39:50.590
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there you go. That's the guy, A-A-S-E-G, the one

0:39:50.630 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 2>that Shang Tao would always talk like she was working

0:39:53.430 --> 0:39:56.460
<v Speaker 2>for him because I think her original idea was that

0:39:56.540 --> 0:39:59.219
<v Speaker 2>after she got recalled, she would go work for him.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>This was the guy that was going to buy the

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.460
<v Speaker 2>Coliseum but didn't actually have any money. And after they

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 2>signed the contract, said, oh, we don't have any money

0:40:07.900 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to even pay you up front.

0:40:09.340 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 6>Bill Duffy, two members of the African-American Sports and Entertainment Group.

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 7>We're definitely in position to take on the financial responsibility

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 7>of the site.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you right now, when this FBI story is

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<v Speaker 2>all done with the corruption scandal between Shang and the Dongs,

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<v Speaker 2>Something tells me she's going to get indicted again for

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<v Speaker 2>all of this corrupt dealings that's been going on for

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years with the Oakland Coliseum. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we got one more hour to go. It's Randy Wang

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<v Speaker 2>on The John Phillips Show.