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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Giants warm up show. As we

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Speaker 1: get you ready for that first pitch at six oh five.

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Speaker 1: A good friend of mine stopping by as we talk

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Speaker 1: Giants baseball. Of course, you work for KTVU for many years.

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Speaker 1: He's retired now, but a big Giants fan. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Mark A Bonnie is Mark. How are you today?

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Speaker 2: You have me baseball season?

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Speaker 3: Bill?

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Speaker 2: Ow are you?

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Speaker 1: It's been great so far the Yankees again, those first

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Speaker 1: three games were tough, but I think the Giants have

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Speaker 1: been playing pretty good baseball. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, obviously better to be on the

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Speaker 3: upside of five hundred, but they're getting there. And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was going to say about retirement, Bill,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of nice to be able to watch the

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Speaker 3: ball games and not have to take notes, And in

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Speaker 3: a way, I think I can give you a different perspective,

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Speaker 3: you know, a little bit from the fan and a

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Speaker 3: little bit from you know.

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Speaker 2: Past experience. And I love watching baseball like that, and

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Speaker 2: I don't have.

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Speaker 3: To memorize everybody's name and body average and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's been great. But you know, I think

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Speaker 2: the Giants in a quick summation.

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Speaker 3: Bill are a team that's kind of feeling their way

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Speaker 3: through things right now, getting their sea legs, if you will.

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Speaker 2: Just like the manager.

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Speaker 3: They always say that a team takes on the personality

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Speaker 3: of the manager, And I think the Giants are looking

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Speaker 3: to get out a little wind streak here, get their

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Speaker 3: feet under them, and just like Tony Battello, they're trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out who this team is, where they're going

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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 2: And I think there are a lot of positive signs in.

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Speaker 3: The early going here that we can pounce upon to

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Speaker 3: look in an optimistic way towards the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Really, I totally agree with you, Mark, And anytime in

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season you come out of spring training,

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Speaker 1: sure you play a few innings and a few games

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Speaker 1: with the regulars, but until you go into battle, you

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Speaker 1: really don't know what you have and who's going to

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Speaker 1: pick each other up. And I think the offense is

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Speaker 1: starting to hit a little bit better and they're starting

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Speaker 1: But it seems like Tony's stuck with those solid nine

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Speaker 1: and he's been doing that every game pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like a flashback to old school

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Speaker 3: baseball where every day you ran the same guys out there,

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Speaker 3: and time is going to tell as to whether that's

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Speaker 3: going to work out, you know, and talking to you

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Speaker 3: off the air in the last couple of days, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a thing where Tony Battello's used to play

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Speaker 3: and when college guys play what three four times a

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Speaker 3: that work in the major leagues? Are guys going to

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Speaker 3: need a break? Is he going to be aware of that?

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Speaker 3: And also you want to get a situation going where

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Speaker 2: Rust on them.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen some of the bench guys get many

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Speaker 2: You remember, I know you're going to remember this man.

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Speaker 3: Back in nineteen sixty nine, Leo Durocher went with the

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Speaker 3: You know, he had Billy Williams, Ernie Bags, Randy Huntley

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Speaker 3: and the upstart Mets, the miracle Mets, overtook them.

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Speaker 2: So you had that old school mentality with.

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Speaker 3: Leo and today's players, they need more rest, the travels, crazy,

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Speaker 2: Starting nine day in, day out like.

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Speaker 3: They used to in many ways, and he's going to

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Speaker 1: For what you're hearing the warm up as we get

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Speaker 1: Mets on a nice home stand by the Giants as

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Speaker 1: Mark a Banyez, Mark, you're talking about defense, I'm right

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Speaker 1: there with you. Last year, the Giants finished twenty third

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Speaker 1: I think we got to look at center field. Buster

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Speaker 1: Posey went and got Harrison Bader a goal glove winner.

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Speaker 1: He has played remarkable, took a home run away when

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Speaker 1: Robbie Ray was pitching that earlier in this four game series.

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Speaker 1: And then you start looking at the infield. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've hit it with Bader in center field.

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Speaker 2: That was a nice play he made up.

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Speaker 3: Against the wall in the first game of the series

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the Giants error total from last year

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Speaker 3: amongst the worst in the National League, maybe all of baseball.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't even so much the physical errors. It

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Speaker 3: And you and I talked about this in spring training.

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Speaker 3: In the case of Ron Washington joining this coaching staff

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Speaker 3: along with Ron Wotis, I think those guys are really

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Speaker 3: that it takes to eliminate the mental mistakes. And you know,

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Speaker 3: remember Gaylord Perry, right, Remember Gaylord Perry was infamous, if

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Speaker 3: make a play. And it was a whole different brand

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Speaker 3: his mind to Casey Schmidt and everybody's looking at it

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Speaker 3: on Instagram that night, it's the talk of the town

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Speaker 3: on sports talk radio the next day. And it's really

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Speaker 3: one of those things you play. You were in clubhouses

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Speaker 3: and doughouse. That's a very common thing, is it not?

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Speaker 1: It is? And I think social media really really pushed

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Speaker 1: when you look at this mart colorful language, though, very colorful,

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Speaker 1: But you know, Matt Chapman, he's got the words. Look

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Speaker 3: And you know, the thing that gets lost in the message,

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Speaker 3: and maybe it wasn't conveyed in the right way, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they talked about it later, But in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: you tell me if I'm wrong what I think that

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Speaker 3: Chapman was trying to tell Schmidt and his inexperience in

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Speaker 2: You've got to come off the bag to take the

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Speaker 2: and create more mischief, which is exactly what it did.

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Speaker 3: Schmid was trying to keep his foot on the bag

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Speaker 3: if he'd come off the bag just caught the ball,

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Speaker 3: which is what Chapman said, then you don't have a

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Speaker 3: guy scoring all the way from first base. Said to me,

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Speaker 3: that was a perfect illustration of putting the guy Schmidt

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Speaker 3: every day, and those kinds of things are going to happen,

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Speaker 3: and Schmid's a quick study.

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Speaker 2: He's going to learn from that and he's not going

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Speaker 3: You know, save a run even if you don't get

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the fundamental play you got to make.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure he won't make it again. I bet

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Speaker 1: Marco Biden has joined me on a warm up show.

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Speaker 1: As we get ready for that first pitch six oh five,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the starting pitching. Giants

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Speaker 1: have out their Land and root sensational game he threw

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Speaker 1: against the Padres, got a head of hitters, less pitches

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Speaker 1: do you think about land and Roof going into this

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: I loved it because you know the way he came

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Speaker 3: out in his first game, and the Giants obviously had

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Speaker 3: that regrettable college series against the Yankees, and you're thinking, man,

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Speaker 3: you know what's going on. They dispensed with the first

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Speaker 3: I thought he was extremely impressive. You know what I

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Speaker 3: love about that guy is just his certain presence he

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Speaker 3: I'm out here to work, you know. And I love

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Speaker 3: his bulldog mentality. He's not out there show voting and

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Speaker 3: he just gets to work and he's got that old

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Speaker 2: It appears. I've never met the guy. I've heard him

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Speaker 3: He can stay healthy, that guy has the look and

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Speaker 3: feel of a guy with his mix of pitches, no

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He was awesome against the Padres because San Diego's got

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Speaker 3: a pretty potent offensive lineup and he dispensed with them.

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Speaker 2: Man, he looked great with all his repertoire. Pitches.

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Speaker 1: Well, it goes six innings, only gives up two hits,

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Speaker 1: punches out seven and as I said, he really separated

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Speaker 1: all his pitches from sinkers thirty seventy through cutter, curveball,

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Speaker 1: change up seventeen each. When you're throwing like that and

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Speaker 1: you've got, you know, confidence, man, your pitches. It is

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Speaker 1: so easy to throw. He throws eighty eight pitches, fifty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on a roll.

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of ironic in a way, is what

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Speaker 3: were we saying leading into the season. There's probably gonna

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Speaker 3: be a lot of games the Giants get into where

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Speaker 3: We weren't worried about the offense at all. And you know,

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Speaker 3: then the pitching comes out and they were reasonably good,

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Speaker 2: I mean, offensively, nobody worries about him.

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Speaker 3: He puts the bat on the ball, he's hitting more

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Speaker 2: Not at all?

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Speaker 1: And some of the balls he turned on a couple

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Speaker 1: And you talked about Ron Washington is helping him and

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Speaker 1: And I'm right there with you. Give the guy a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, sometimes guys get a tag and

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe you could say that didn't have the.

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Speaker 3: Best range in the world, but he was sure handed,

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, no, you can't play defense? Like who

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Speaker 3: If anything, he's got a great attitude and like you say,

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Speaker 2: Why can't he take it up a notch?

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Speaker 3: And I really feel the Giants are going to improve

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Speaker 1: Obviously, well Mark, as we finish up here on a

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Speaker 1: they go on a pretty long road trip. You know,

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Speaker 2: Know, again, it is early and.

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Speaker 3: It is a small sample size, but williet Domas he

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Speaker 3: just strikes out too much and he's not that great

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Speaker 2: And I'm not quite sure.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to question anything about Tony Battello, and

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Speaker 3: I just don't see Williadamas as a leadoff guy because

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Speaker 2: And that is frustrating to me.

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Speaker 3: If I had to point out one frustration, it's like,

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Speaker 3: bring those runners in from third with less than two outs,

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Speaker 3: moving and make contact. That's why I love seeing a

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you and other fans are saying the

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Speaker 1: same thing. But we're going to find out if Tony

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Speaker 1: Vittello is going to change the lineup and push him down.

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Speaker 1: But we got a whole season ahead of us, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and again a pleasure talking to you. And we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking more baseball as a Giant season progresses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine and Bill Tony Vottello not listening to me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I always love talking baseball with you, Billy, anytime you want.

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Speaker 3: And like I say, I'm I got a good view

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Speaker 3: but I.

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Speaker 2: Still get the butterflies.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could, after all these years, get rid

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Speaker 3: of that, but I'm just a born and bred Giants

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Mark. All Right, we're going to be come

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