WEBVTT - Susan Dyer Reynolds on the state of San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>The website is the Voice SF dot org, and of

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the John Phillips Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Randy, good to be with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like Mayor Lurry's having a pretty good week.

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<v Speaker 1>The poll comes out showing that he's the most popular

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<v Speaker 1>mayor in the country, and he holds a press conference

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<v Speaker 1>today saying that, hey, look at this, the homeless numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are moving in the right direction. What do you make

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<v Speaker 1>of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, he has really good pr You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>pays three hundred and fifty thousand dollars of his own

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<v Speaker 2>money a year for what I call his baby pr team,

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<v Speaker 2>and they follow him around and do really cool Instagram videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely think he's a breath of fresh air. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in La, you guys are looking at Spencer Pratt for

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<v Speaker 2>the very same reasons people are tired of career politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're wanting the common man that feels the same

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<v Speaker 2>things they feel. Although you know, in his case, he's

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<v Speaker 2>Larry is a billionaire inheriting the Levi's fortune from his

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<v Speaker 2>mother at some point. But I do think that his

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<v Speaker 2>everyman sort of personality kind of sways people into thinking

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<v Speaker 2>things are better, But if you're on the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>the city or you follow for example, JJ Smith, you

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<v Speaker 2>see the reality. And you know, I just did a

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<v Speaker 2>databased article about how there have been over forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred drug overdose deaths in San Francisco in the past

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<v Speaker 2>five years, the majority happening indoors inside permanent support of

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<v Speaker 2>housing about thirty percent. The rest are scattered in different

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<v Speaker 2>parts and outside or hospitals. But the thirty percent is

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<v Speaker 2>a big number, and so we need more sober housing, clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>But then we have to address the hardcore homeless, the

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<v Speaker 2>drug tourists that come there for the drugs. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want help, they don't want housing. And he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to get a lot tougher before that gets resolved,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means going after the dealers, and that's something

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<v Speaker 2>he's very reluctant to do. He also kind of lies

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I mean, he says things. I did a

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<v Speaker 2>story called Laurie's Big Lie where he talks about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we no longer let people die on the street and

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<v Speaker 2>don't hand out paraphernalia. And I did a story with

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<v Speaker 2>JJ Smith where he went out and saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people handing out paraphernalia by a park giving massages to

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<v Speaker 2>drug addicts. So the very same nonprofits that are allowing

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<v Speaker 2>people to die are still getting to hand out free paraphernalia,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're still getting you know, millions and millions and

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars. That hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's what's so wild is he promised that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to cut out this nonsense. San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>is facing a huge budget deficit, and you would think

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<v Speaker 1>those programs are the first ones to cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you would think, But yet they just reapped a

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<v Speaker 2>number of these organizations. In fact, that the top three

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<v Speaker 2>organizations that have had the most deaths over the past

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<v Speaker 2>five years. In our report, which is a series called

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<v Speaker 2>Housing First, morg Second, you can see that they all

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<v Speaker 2>got re upped in the past year multimillion dollar contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>And the excuse is, well, Health Right three sixty is

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<v Speaker 2>so big it's hard to replace them. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>you know ten or Long Housing Clinic. You know, Randy

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<v Speaker 2>Shaw has been a poverty primp for decades, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making millions off of the homeless and then standing there

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<v Speaker 2>saying he wants more done about drug addicts. When the

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<v Speaker 2>clients for the drug addicts live in his building and

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<v Speaker 2>are allowed to do drugs. That's still the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>that housing first is a California thing. It allows drugs

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<v Speaker 2>to be used. San Francisco's changed that San Jose. Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Mayhan the mayor, and Santase has done an incredible job.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that the Chronicle and the New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>are spewing, you know, oh, what a great mayor. You

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<v Speaker 2>know Danielurias. Well that's because the Chronicle did the poll

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<v Speaker 2>and they endorsed him and they love him. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is that Matt Mahan and Santase, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I live both in the Silicon Valley and San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>so I see both. Matt Mahon has housed one third

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<v Speaker 2>of the homeless, but not just throwing them into these SROs.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts them in places that have job training and skills,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, learning skills, you counseling for their past traumas

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<v Speaker 2>they have to get, you know, into drug treatment. And

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<v Speaker 2>he has about an eighty nine percent success rate. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the best mayor in all of California, and yet he

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<v Speaker 2>gets almost no credit, whereas Lurie, you know, has a

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<v Speaker 2>big PR team that he pays for, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets splashed across the New York Times, the Chronicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's so popular. But you know, I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that I've gotten some of those, you know, polls,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're very skewed toward Daniel Lurie. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that a lot of this is a bunch of ball,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the situation with the SROs, which has been

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster before Lurie, but it really hasn't changed. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this is state law, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten to a point where it's not even like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a crazy thing to say that if you

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<v Speaker 1>go into one of those SROs you're coming out in

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<v Speaker 1>a body bag.

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, you know, and I know you know who

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<v Speaker 2>JJ Smith is. But if you watch him when he's

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<v Speaker 2>standing by the medical examiner van and they bring out

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<v Speaker 2>a body and they open up the van at seven

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, there's room for four people, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>usually already three bodies in the van. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>still a crisis. People are still dying at the rate

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<v Speaker 2>of two persons per day in San Francisco. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was, you know when I was there

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<v Speaker 2>last week walking around. Did neighborhood look better? For sure,

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<v Speaker 2>North Beach, you know, the Marina, But when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the tenor loin, the mission is a disaster, just

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<v Speaker 2>worse than I've ever seen it because they've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>all been pushed that way. The other thing I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>an article on, and it's also very you know, la relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>is the sheer amount of animal abuse and torture and

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<v Speaker 2>breeding that goes on in these SROs and very similar

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<v Speaker 2>to skid Row or Joey Tucco's doing an amazing job,

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<v Speaker 2>and Spencer Pratt has shined a huge light the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of abuse and suffering that these officials just ignore. And

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco we just tried to pass the Spaean

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<v Speaker 2>neoter law. But what happens is they all get scared

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<v Speaker 2>of the giant SPCA here, which is a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>multimillion dollar nonprofit that just does marketing and says very

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<v Speaker 2>few dogs. And then you know, the homeless coalitions all

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<v Speaker 2>chime in, Oh, it's so prejudiced against the homeless having pets,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have all this you know, dumb stuff for

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<v Speaker 2>these people that even the AKC weighed in. I mean, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you supposed to be about purebread dogs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I rescued a pure bread Staffaire bull terrier last year.

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<v Speaker 2>She's twelve, and like yesterday, she had to have sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>teeth removed because it's part of her breed. And here,

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<v Speaker 2>here they're breeding all these horrible things into these purebread dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want the homeless to breed their dogs. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand. So there's a lot of things in San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco going on that are very similar to LA and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see the officials doing anything where those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things are concerned. I mean, we had a drug

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<v Speaker 2>addic strangle his pitbull in front of the SRO where

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<v Speaker 2>he was living. I mean, in what civilized city does

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<v Speaker 2>that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just wild, and you know, obviously it's it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely worse here in Los Angeles. But it seems

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<v Speaker 1>that no matter whether you're talking about San Francisco, La Compton,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you, elected officials will not even admit that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a problem with the animal abuse that's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, in government subsidized housing in the SROs.

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<v Speaker 1>And for as much as we're trying to control our

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<v Speaker 1>pet populations. The fact that we're not even requiring the

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<v Speaker 1>animals that are in these SROs to be spade and neutered.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what's going to happen. We know they're being bred.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a business model for these people. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>completely unconscionable.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see it. You know, honestly, skid rose is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a human disaster too. But when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just these poor people that need their pets, now,

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<v Speaker 2>these are these a currency for them, They're a commodity.

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<v Speaker 2>And the level of I mean, there is someone in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco named kun al Modi who is the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the homeless star for Lori. He is trying very hard.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the one that brought the spey and neuter

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<v Speaker 2>along with Matt Dorsey a supervisor. But the level of

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<v Speaker 2>idiocy amongst officials. I had a supervisor named Alan Wong

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<v Speaker 2>who was appointed by Lourie after his disaster with the

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<v Speaker 2>pet cemetery lady that you had the pet store. When

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<v Speaker 2>she had to step down, he appointed this guy, Alan Wong,

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<v Speaker 2>and he tells me that he just thought that spaying

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<v Speaker 2>and neutering a dog was mean to the dogs, that

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs shouldn't have to suffer. And I've said, are

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<v Speaker 2>you kids, really? I think you're a supervisor. Do your homework.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel there's a big push toward non politicians

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<v Speaker 2>because people are sick and tired of politicians that get

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<v Speaker 2>appointed to these positions, are elected and they really don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything. So why are you there? If you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make thing better, don't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're speaking with Susan Dyer Reynolds. You can follow her

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<v Speaker 1>on social media at Susan d Reynolds and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the website is the voicesf dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I was up in San Francisco last week and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a wonderful time. I was actually very pleasantly surprised

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<v Speaker 1>of how clean Union Square is looking now and not

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<v Speaker 1>a car breaking to be seen. North Beach was gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the west Side, Golden Gate Park, Cole Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a ton of fun, and it sure seems

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<v Speaker 1>that the good neighborhoods they're looking a lot better right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at all the videos from JJ

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other people that are down in the Tenderloin,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tenderloin is as bad as ever. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this new Reset Center is really going to

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<v Speaker 1>change anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll find out. One of our writers, woman named

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<v Speaker 2>Amber Richmond, who started writing for us, a young woman

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<v Speaker 2>who was an addict and has been clean since December,

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<v Speaker 2>writing about her stories in the Boys. She is working there,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm hoping that it'll be a success,

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<v Speaker 2>but on such a small scale.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is that you know, I interview

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<v Speaker 2>I've been interviewing the homeless in San Francisco for decades,

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<v Speaker 2>and the thing I hear from them all the time

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<v Speaker 2>is they just want to do drugs. They don't want help,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to get clean. Every time JJ offers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, someone's substance treatment, you see the videos, what

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<v Speaker 2>do they say, No, I like doing drugs. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ready now, I'm not ready. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to treatment. So even when they're offered it to them,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't take it. So I just don't see how

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<v Speaker 2>effective it's going to be. In Sama's they cuss you,

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<v Speaker 2>they check your warrants, they put you in jail, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you either accept help or they put you on

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<v Speaker 2>a bus and you go go home to wherever you're from.

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco says, they do that, but you know there

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<v Speaker 2>are people still getting seven almost seven hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>month that just step off the bus. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>JJ just interviewed a woman who crossed the bridge from

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland and got into housing within four months, and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, and I love drugs and doing drugs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here for the drugs. Those people, You're never going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to help them with something like a reset center.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that's going to help those people is

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<v Speaker 2>throwing them in gin jail. You know, I asked Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Mahon when I toured one of the facilities in Santase,

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<v Speaker 2>which was clean and sparkling outside and in why I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see the drug addicts outside like I do in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. And he said, because I won't allow it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want enforcement, And without enforcement, you can't achieve what

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<v Speaker 2>he's achieved. In Santase.

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<v Speaker 5>You will not see.

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<v Speaker 2>People doing drugs or selling drugs in public, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you do, they will be arrested, they will get stay

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<v Speaker 2>away orders. And you know the problem with San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>is the whole sanctuary city myth that you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>there to protect these working immigrants when in reality, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the butt, but we won't accept it for

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<v Speaker 2>drug dealers, you know, and criminals and murderers and rapists,

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<v Speaker 2>like they just won't say it, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>politically incorrect to say it. And I don't understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>because no one should want someone slinging sentinel in their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>And until until Laurie toughens up on that, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see it changing well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember it was just a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago when Matt Dorsey tried to change San Francisco's sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>city law to make an exception for the illegal alien

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<v Speaker 1>Honduran drug dealers that are out there every single day

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<v Speaker 1>dealing in public in the tenderloin in Soma in the mission,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got shot down and called a racist for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's right, And nobody stood up for him in

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<v Speaker 2>that in that scenario, and he's continued to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get that passed and push things like sober housing and

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<v Speaker 2>dealing and dealing with the dealers no pun intended. But

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard LORII ever say, and I've written multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times about this, I've never heard him say, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will put the dealers in jail and we will deport them.

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<v Speaker 2>And and everybody knows the drug the drug users, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say it out right, Oh, I get my drugs

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<v Speaker 2>from the hondos. They call themselves hondos. Everybody knows that

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<v Speaker 2>the Hondurans run the tender Win. And you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been an increase in murders in San Francisco, which Laurie

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like to talk about, but homicides are up. And

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<v Speaker 2>I heard from both an emergency room nurse and doctor

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<v Speaker 2>that they're seeing a lot of more of what they

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<v Speaker 2>call them this homie drop offs, where they basically pull

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<v Speaker 2>up in a car, shove the person out and drive off.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot more stabbing shootings in the emergency room. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's game related and drug territory related. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>just not something that you can gloss over and say

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness is down and look at us, we're clean and shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Parts of San Francisco look a lot better. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Danie Lurie is popular because he is a cheerleader and

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<v Speaker 2>he does great you know Instagram. I call him the

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<v Speaker 2>instamare Matt and Mayhem and Santase is more nose to

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<v Speaker 2>the grindstone, get it. Done. He's not flashy. He grew up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, middle class in Watsonville, California, different ILKs than Danie.

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<v Speaker 2>Lurie was born with the golden swoon in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got to ask you, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick your brain on this because you cover both mayors,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Matt Mahon has been going up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the state thamas is as he's trying to run

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<v Speaker 1>for governor, and he has put out a very common

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<v Speaker 1>sense message. Here's what I've done in San Jose. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring the state wide. Why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's not resonating with primary voters.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things that he got into late,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he got in pretty late in the race

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<v Speaker 2>when people had made some choices. I think another is

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<v Speaker 2>that he's not known, as you said, he's not known

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<v Speaker 2>in southern California, and he doesn't have a big brand yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't have a big PR team like Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>Lurie does to push his name to the national media.

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<v Speaker 2>Many times, Daniel Lurie wants to be in the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times. He's there just like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a sadly a PR team for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think he's picked the right campaign advisors.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've made some mistakes making him sound a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more liberal than he actually is. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he's a conservative by any means, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not this you know, bleeding heart left wing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sanctuary for drug dealers. That some of his you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the things he said, have come off that way. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he did get rid of someone that was given

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<v Speaker 2>over to him by Billala Mamood, who is a really

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<v Speaker 2>far left in my opinion, supervisor in San Francisco that

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<v Speaker 2>beat the impressed in the socialist But other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not much better. And I just don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>selling the message hasn't been sold the way the way

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<v Speaker 2>he sells himself, just when he's in Santase, the way

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<v Speaker 2>he sells himself is how he should be selling himself

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone, and he's not come across that way. I've

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<v Speaker 2>even been angry with him in a couple of the

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<v Speaker 2>things he's put out where he just comes across like

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<v Speaker 2>the run of the mill, you know, liberal dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the campaign definitely has had its issues, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you pointed them out exactly what some of the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is, you know, we have invited him to come

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<v Speaker 1>on this show so many times, and he came on

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<v Speaker 1>the show in the past when he was promoting Prop

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six, and no problem, Like, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this show, but it sure seems like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing radio that's broadcast in southern California northern California would

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<v Speaker 1>be an interesting way to get your message out. But

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<v Speaker 1>we get Stonewall, which I find very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That is. I mean, you know, he follows me on

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<v Speaker 2>X so maybe I'll tag him and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go on with Randy because he does need to be

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<v Speaker 2>heard in LA if he's going to win LA. I

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<v Speaker 2>think people forget what a big chunk of property La is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody is. So when they're in the Bay Area,

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<v Speaker 2>they think, you know, we're the be all and end all,

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<v Speaker 2>but southern California is vast and he's just not very

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<v Speaker 2>well known there. It frightens me a little too that

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<v Speaker 2>California voters are so apathetic and they look at the Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>they recognize the name and they'll just click the box

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<v Speaker 2>because they wrecked the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one might be biting voters in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>If this Dana Williamson, thing gets any more interesting. Susan

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<v Speaker 1>Dire Reynolds, thank you so much as always for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure that you bookmark the Voice of San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>the voicesf dot org, and you can of course follow

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<v Speaker 1>much as always for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. Randy talk to you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny's on vacation, well deserved. He'll be back on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>When am I taking a vacation? I mean I get

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<v Speaker 1>to work when I'm in Santa Fe. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>actually taken a day off all year, but at some

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<v Speaker 1>point I will, you know, got to bank those days.

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<v Speaker 1>But he'll be back on Monday. The phone number is

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<v Speaker 1>KABC Newsplitz wherever you get your podcasts. As we're in

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<v Speaker 1>voting season, there are a lot of people in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat primary that are still freaking out about the very

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<v Speaker 1>small but still possibility that it could be two Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>going into the runoff in June. Now that seems less

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<v Speaker 1>likely every single day, as Javier Bessera is going up

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<v Speaker 1>in the polls and Chad Bianco is going down in

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<v Speaker 1>the polls. But it's still a possibility, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>there are some strategists that want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this never ever ever has happens again, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>they are now looking at collecting signatures for a ballot

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<v Speaker 1>measure in twenty twenty eight that would repeal California's top

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<v Speaker 1>two jungle primary system. For more on this, we go

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<v Speaker 1>to KCRA three and the wonderful Ashley's of All You

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<v Speaker 1>know we would love to get Ashley on the show sometime,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think she's usually either at the capitol or

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<v Speaker 1>filing her reports when we're on the air. But we

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<v Speaker 1>love her as an effort on We really do love

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<v Speaker 1>highlighting our local voices, whether it's in broadcast journalism or

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<v Speaker 1>independent journalism. That's one of the things that we really

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<v Speaker 1>love to do here because there are some great people

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<v Speaker 1>covering this great state.

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<v Speaker 6>There's an effort underway to ditch California's open primary election system.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's because of this year's governor's race. California is

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<v Speaker 7>one of a few states that allows the top two

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<v Speaker 7>vote getters at a primary election to move on to

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<v Speaker 7>the general in November, regardless of their party alation. In case,

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<v Speaker 7>every three political director Ashley's of All joins us right

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<v Speaker 7>now with this new effort and what today leaders are

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<v Speaker 7>saying about this top two system.

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<v Speaker 8>Wilson, this issue, as you mentioned, has been front and

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<v Speaker 8>center because of the governor's race this year. The field

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<v Speaker 8>is crowded with six Democrats and two leading Republicans. Some

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 8>Democrats have been worrying that mathematically California voters in November

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<v Speaker 8>could end up picking between the two Republicans and Democrats

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<v Speaker 8>would be locked out of that general race.

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<v Speaker 1>The chances it would be a fascinating thing if that

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<v Speaker 1>actually happened. I don't think it's likely. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>John is. You know, that's the whole reason he has

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<v Speaker 1>put forth Bianco and his voter guide. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to look at John's voter guide, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to KABC dot com slash John's ballot or

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<v Speaker 1>KSFO dot com slash John's ballot. It's as easy as that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right there. But I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>The chances of that are very slim, but that's not

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<v Speaker 8>stopping the effort from moving forward. On Friday, Democratic political

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<v Speaker 8>consultant Steve Maviglio filed a proposed ballot initiative to get

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<v Speaker 8>rid of the top two system. It would simply repeal

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<v Speaker 8>what California voters passed in twenty eleven and return California

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<v Speaker 8>to a primary system based on political parties.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you would have is you'd go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it was, where you'd have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money spent in the primary of everyone going

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<v Speaker 1>after each other, and then you know it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Republican and a Democrat and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to even campaign.

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<v Speaker 8>Experts in both political parties say this open primary experiment

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<v Speaker 8>has failed. Before the initiative was filed, I asked California's

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<v Speaker 8>attorney General and Secretary of State if getting rid of

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<v Speaker 8>the top two system was something they were talking about

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<v Speaker 8>or considering.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what each had to say. Very much, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>very much. So, oh yeah, yeah. People say jungle primary.

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<v Speaker 5>I never heard that day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first time Shirley Webers said yes to any interview.

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<v Speaker 5>Very much so, yeah, very much.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, yeah, people say jungle primary.

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<v Speaker 5>I never heard that until this election.

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<v Speaker 9>And I say that because we've never had seventy semid

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<v Speaker 9>people running for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>We have sixty one. By the way, she should know

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<v Speaker 1>that because she is the Secretary of State. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one seventy, it doesn't matter. We have sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>candidates on that ballot. It's insane. And apparently all you

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<v Speaker 1>need to run for governor is four thousand dollars. You

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<v Speaker 1>either can get a bunch of signatures or four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are some gadflies out there that decided to

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<v Speaker 1>give California four thousand bucks, just so they could say

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<v Speaker 1>their name is on the ballot, including one guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is true, who changed his name to Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he appears on the ballot as like Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 5>Kent in a primary.

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<v Speaker 9>And my girlfriend called me the other night and go,

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<v Speaker 9>she'd been on Vaca ship.

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<v Speaker 5>What the heck is this? I said, what is it?

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<v Speaker 5>She said, it's like seventy people, sixty seventy people.

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<v Speaker 9>I knew what it was, and from day one I

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<v Speaker 9>voted against it, and I wasn't in the office at all,

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<v Speaker 9>but I did not like the open primary.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't think it would solve any problems.

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<v Speaker 9>They had a list of problems it would solve, and

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<v Speaker 9>none of those have been seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we really hasn't gotten us better candidates. Notably, it

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<v Speaker 1>got us the race between Kamala Harrison Loretta Sanchez in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate race. It got us Feinstein versus kd L

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. It is hot as hell, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really hasn't made things any better.

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<v Speaker 5>And none of those have been solved.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we have some data, some evidence. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you recognize that voice that's Bobby Bob Bonta.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we have some data, some evidence. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of hope among some there were some intentions.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some design outcomes from it. Now, with fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>years of experience, a voter experience, we can see if

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<v Speaker 3>those goals have been met or if not.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you go back to the primary system, is

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<v Speaker 1>it back to a closed primary system, because that would

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<v Speaker 1>mean that for certain offices, you'd have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are no party preferencers that I guess

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<v Speaker 1>would be locked out of those. Is that what they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking to do?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the people will decide. I'm not part of

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<v Speaker 3>any particular effort to change the rules. My job is

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<v Speaker 3>to enforce and implement the existing rules.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, we also checked in to see if Governor Gavin

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<v Speaker 8>Newsom or the state lawmakers who oversee elections had any.

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<v Speaker 5>Thoughts on the top two system. We have not yet

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<v Speaker 5>heard back.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so taking issative voters is the only way to

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<v Speaker 8>change Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean at this point,

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<v Speaker 8>because voters approve the change to open up the primary

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<v Speaker 8>system back in twenty eleven, they must also vote to

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<v Speaker 8>undo it. This ballot initiative is currently waiting to get

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<v Speaker 8>its title and summary before it can start collecting signatures.

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<v Speaker 8>But no, it will not be on your ballot in

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty six. That'll be in twenty twenty eight. So

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<v Speaker 8>if this gets enough signatures, so.

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<v Speaker 1>This one you won't have to worry about this election.

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<v Speaker 1>This election, you just have to worry about a bazillion tales,

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<v Speaker 1>tax hikes, bond measures, and I'm sure a kidney biller too. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in the governor's race, Javier Bakaria is on quite appalling surge.

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<v Speaker 8>The Sectory of Health and Educations over I nominated Javier Bakaria.

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<v Speaker 1>And that means that the knives are out for him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why he's getting asked question after question after

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<v Speaker 1>question about that Dana Williamson scandal and the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>with HHS. Let's see what he had to say at

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<v Speaker 1>his latest town hall. Here is ABC ten in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 6>They and Democratic candidate for governor, Hobby or Basera, stopped

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<v Speaker 6>in his hometown of Sacramento tonight. He held an event

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<v Speaker 6>at Sachs State and ABC ten scars Pole sung what

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<v Speaker 6>was there? He joins us now live in the student

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<v Speaker 6>with the latest garsh Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Chris Passera returned home, pitching voters on his vision

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<v Speaker 4>for California while defending himself from growing criticism on the

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<v Speaker 4>campaign trail at Sacramento State's the Nest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh who did that?

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<v Speaker 10>Former California Attorney General and former Hilton Human Services Secretary

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<v Speaker 10>Javier Bisera for his Fighting for California Dream tour back home.

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<v Speaker 11>We cannot lose if you go out and vote.

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<v Speaker 10>Boy is he inspiring family supporters and his mother filling

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<v Speaker 10>the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>I got at least one vote in this place.

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<v Speaker 10>I know that the hometown stop comes as polls show

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<v Speaker 10>Republican Steve Hilton and Bessara tied at eighteen percent, with

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<v Speaker 10>Republican Chad Bianco at fourteen percent, Democrat Tom Steyer at

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<v Speaker 10>twelve percent, and Democrat Katie Porter at eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, poor Katie. I guess that ad that referenced this

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<v Speaker 1>out has not resonated. She's like going back and forth

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>where it's either her or Mayheon in that fifth place

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<v Speaker 1>spot now.

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<v Speaker 10>And Democrat Katie Porter at eight percent.

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<v Speaker 11>They're coming after me because they're afraid of you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not why you could argue that they're coming after

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<v Speaker 1>you because there is a real fear that you might

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<v Speaker 1>fall apart before November.

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<v Speaker 10>The attacks have already started. The Sacmento B reports, but

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<v Speaker 10>Sarah is accused in an anonymous Fair Political Practices Commission

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<v Speaker 10>complaint of violating campaign finance laws by using Endorment Attorney

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<v Speaker 10>General campaign account to pay former advisor Dana Williamson's firm

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<v Speaker 10>after leaving office. As the fraud case continues, but Sarah

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<v Speaker 10>has not been accused of any wrongdoing in the case.

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<v Speaker 11>Tis the season for negative campaigning.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the guy forty million people and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's going to lead us into the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 10>Fellow Democrat Katie Porter took am Abassera.

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<v Speaker 1>Might be pulling up Zillo during the break Santa Fe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my way.

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<v Speaker 10>Fellow Democrat Katie Porter took Amabassera during an appearance on

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<v Speaker 10>CNN Monday, raising questions if Bisera will be dragged into

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<v Speaker 10>the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Katie Porter is full on the offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 12>Two of the three people who were initially implicated are

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 12>negotiating plea deals, and in those plea deals they could

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<v Speaker 12>name Secretary Bessera. I don't know if they will, but

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<v Speaker 12>that is a risk, and so I don't want to

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<v Speaker 12>see what happened with Eric Swalwell, happened with Javier Bisera Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a totally different kind of scandal. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a election scandal where they paid someone out of

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a campaign account. It's a little more complicated than accused rapists.

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<v Speaker 1>But Katie Porter is trying to tie those together. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>And it is true a lot of the big unions

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<v Speaker 1>that supported wall Well, they jumped ship and went over

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<v Speaker 1>to Bisarah.

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<v Speaker 12>This race is too close, it's too chaotic, and there's

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<v Speaker 12>no reason to take a risk.

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<v Speaker 11>US Attorney's office, the FBI investigated, She's risk free right.

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<v Speaker 11>US Attorney's office. The FBI investigated this. I cooperated with him,

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<v Speaker 11>and I will say one way or the other, everyone

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<v Speaker 11>is accountable. I'm moving forward. As I said, everyone will

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<v Speaker 11>be accountable for their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving He's using that word more than Gavin Newsome.

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<v Speaker 11>Accountability, accountability, accountability, that everyone will be accountable for their actions.

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<v Speaker 11>We're moving forward. We feel very comfortable and confident about

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<v Speaker 11>this elections.

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<v Speaker 10>I want you at Sacramento State. But Sarah's focused on affordability, homelessness,

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<v Speaker 10>and public safety while urging supporters to stay energized.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we fight, oh boy, and mail and balace should

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>be arriving in your mailboxes. And with primary election sept

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<v Speaker 4>for June second, Chris Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the other front run in the race is Steve Hilton,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put out his plan to cut your energy prices.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what he had to say. Let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to ABC ten.

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<v Speaker 13>Wellocking. Steve Hilton held a news conference announcing what he

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<v Speaker 13>calls a bloat report when it comes to California's energy regulators.

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<v Speaker 13>His proposals promised to cut energy costs, but he is

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<v Speaker 13>not the only one with a plan, and there are

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 13>some big differences. Every flick of the light switch, phone charge,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 13>and load of laundry costs money.

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<v Speaker 14>Today, we're focusing on something that affects every single person

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<v Speaker 14>in California.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>The way laundry is well worth it. Don't start encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>people to only wash every other week.

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<v Speaker 14>Today, we're focusing on something that affects every single person

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<v Speaker 14>in California.

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<v Speaker 13>At a recent news conference held outside the California Environmental

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<v Speaker 13>Protection Agency headquarters in Sacramento, Republican candidate for California governor

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 13>Steve Hilton announced his plan to lower energy costs by

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<v Speaker 13>reforming the state's energy regulators, which.

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<v Speaker 14>He calls a massive, sprawling, bloated bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've accurate.

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<v Speaker 14>We've got all these different agencies. We've got COBB, the

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<v Speaker 14>California Air Resources Board, We've got the Public Utility Commission CPUC,

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<v Speaker 14>We've got the Energy Commission, We've got KAISER.

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<v Speaker 1>And those two right there, like, how are those not

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<v Speaker 1>the same agency.

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<v Speaker 14>We've got the Public Utility Commission CPUC, We've got the

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<v Speaker 14>Energy Commission, We've got KAISO.

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<v Speaker 1>And every single one of these bureaucracies which are appointed

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<v Speaker 1>by the governor. Those are all filled with all kinds

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of employees in so many different checks. And no, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is where all the regulations come from. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>and this is one of the things where if Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Helton does get in there and he still has a

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>legislature that won't work with him, you can make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of changes to these appointed offices. That is true.

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<v Speaker 14>We've got all these different regulators.

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<v Speaker 13>He says, overlapping functions and redundant staffing are driving up costs.

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<v Speaker 14>We are going to massively simplify this whole system.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I would argue we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need the CPUC because the CPUC is made up of

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of former executives from PG and E who've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing nothing but rubber stamping rate increases for PG

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<v Speaker 1>and E.

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<v Speaker 14>Instead of these four different agentsies all basically doing the

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<v Speaker 14>same thing, we're going to combine three of them into

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<v Speaker 14>a very simple, clear, streamlined energy division.

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<v Speaker 13>He says. He also wants to return KARB to what

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<v Speaker 13>he described as its original mission of air quality management,

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 13>stripping its climate policy authority. All of these changes, he says.

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<v Speaker 14>Will cut electric bills in California by twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving toward his camp I mean maybe, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to see this, but Steve Hilton, just wait

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<v Speaker 1>till you are battling PG.

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<v Speaker 13>And E moving toward his campaign goal of cutting electric

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<v Speaker 13>bills in half. To be clear, the move would cut jobs.

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<v Speaker 13>Hilton's proposal is part of something he launched earlier this

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<v Speaker 13>year called cal DOGE. It's modeled after the Federal Department

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 13>of Government Efficiency that Elon Musk led at the start

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 13>of President Trump's second term. Numbers show DOZE shrunk the

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 13>federal workforce by about ten percent. ABC ten reached out

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 13>to the California Democratic Party for a response to Hilton's proposal,

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<v Speaker 13>but they did not make anyone available, and the governor's

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 13>office told ABC ten it does not comment on the

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 13>gubernatorial race.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gavin's not getting involved now.

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<v Speaker 13>So we turned to the bipartisan Little Hoover Commission. That's

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 13>an independent state oversight agency that held four hearings in

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<v Speaker 13>twenty twenty five studying the high cost of electricity in

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<v Speaker 13>California and issuing this report with recommendations. Both the Commission

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 13>and Hilton say regulatory reform is needed, but the commissions

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 13>approach focuses on making the existing agencies work better.

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<v Speaker 1>Mandating timeline well, again, that's going to Maine that you

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>have to appoint people that are not lobbyists for those companies.

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<v Speaker 1>You should not be able to work at the CPUC

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a vested interest in PG and E

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<v Speaker 1>stock price going up.

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<v Speaker 13>Mandating timelines for rate cases, integrating proceedings, and auditing staffing.

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<v Speaker 13>The report did not address agency consolidation one way or

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<v Speaker 13>the other. The Commission's recommendations also include more assistance for

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 13>the lowest income Californians struggling to pay their energy bills,

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 13>and more scrutiny on utilities and their profit margins and spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you know that our public utility monopolies get

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a guaranteed rate of return whenever they do infrastructure investment,

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's part of the way they've been able to

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>get these rubber stamped rate increases PG and he got

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>six rate increases over the course of a year. The

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Commission says, As much as I think he's completely insane,

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I like about Tom Steyer's campaign. The

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>only thing is that he won't be successful. But I

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like that he wants to break up these companies because

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I think PG and E and OKEL Edison and SDG

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and E are disasters and that business model doesn't make

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>any sense. The Commission says, there are plenty of municipal

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>owned utilities that work very well. Not LEDWP, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we put in charge of LEDWP someone who

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<v Speaker 1>used to work at PG and E. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you had smut Burbank water Power. There are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of municipally owned power companies that well. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about profits because they're owned by us.

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<v Speaker 13>The Commission says, achieving significant electricity cost reductions may be possible,

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<v Speaker 13>though challenging, suggesting a different approach is to flatten the

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<v Speaker 13>curve of accelerating costs.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we need to lower the price. I mean, good

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<v Speaker 1>luck trying, but we need to now.

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<v Speaker 5>Hilton said.

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<v Speaker 13>The so called Bloat report on California electricity prices could

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<v Speaker 13>be found on kel Doje's website, but when I visited

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<v Speaker 13>the site today I couldn't find it. I reached out

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<v Speaker 13>to Hilton's campaign and kel Doge I have not heard

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<v Speaker 13>back about obtaining a copy of that report, Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Those are the latest updates you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know about in the California governor's race. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Wang here on the John Phillips Show. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to pack up, go sit on the freeway for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, have a little lunch, and then get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for my next show. I do a local show on

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<v Speaker 1>seven ninety KABC every single day at five o'clock. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the Bay you should definitely give it

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<v Speaker 1>a listen because I cover everything that we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to cover today. Look, every morning I go

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<v Speaker 1>through all of the southern California news stations, the Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Area station Sacramento, San Diego in the Central Valley. I

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<v Speaker 1>isolate the ones that I think I should listen to,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I get those down to the list of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I think are important for this audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and I post them all on my substack Randywangradio dot

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<v Speaker 1>substack dot com, and we're gonna go through all of

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<v Speaker 1>them today at five o'clock. So, for instance, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stories I didn't get to do today that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about tonight. Oakland's housing market is showing the

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<v Speaker 1>steepest drops in the entire country, and Matt Haney wants

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<v Speaker 1>to push a bill that will cap concert ticket resale fees.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into all of that tonight on the news

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<v Speaker 1>Splits with Randy Wang on KABC. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give it a listen seven ninety am in Southern California

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<v Speaker 1>or stream it at KABC dot com. I'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow regardless, noon to three for another edition of The

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<v Speaker 1>John Phillips Show.