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Speaker 1: Dirty Work with You on a Tuesday afternoon Adam copelandepop

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Speaker 1: Tim Web with you. Do you have to tell you

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Speaker 1: today at REDWOODCU dot org. That's REDWOODCU dot org. Every Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Tim has his own segment we call Hern's Tuesday Takes

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Speaker 1: and Trivia. He hosts trivia on Tuesday nights at the

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Speaker 1: Bitter End in San Francisco. And some of the trivia

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Speaker 1: you'll hear right now can be heard tonight because Tim

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Speaker 1: hain't right in extra trivia. He's gonna double up. You

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Speaker 1: get some free points. So he starts with a sports take,

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Speaker 1: a slice of life, and then some trivia.

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Speaker 2: Tim open it up.

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Speaker 3: It's time for Tim's Tuesday Takes and Trivia on knbr

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Speaker 3: V Takes Leader.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim back from vacation, back from week one

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Speaker 1: of March Madness.

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Speaker 4: We're into the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I imagine we're gonna get something something maybe related to

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Speaker 1: your week and the takes when he got for us today, well.

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Speaker 5: You would be wrong in sports front Well, well thank you, yeah.

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Speaker 6: You get some of that.

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Speaker 5: It's time for Tim's Tuesday Takes and Trivia, fresh off

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Speaker 5: vacation and just as crappy as ever a quickie vacation recap.

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Speaker 6: No, I did not fly to Reno. Yes I lost money.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Pat h did text me to see if I

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Speaker 5: drank one hundred beers. Yes, I met members of the

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Speaker 5: filth whose only question, and this is not a joke,

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Speaker 5: was is there an actual NBA grab bag?

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Speaker 6: All in all, it was a good trip. But it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's dirty work, answered takes imaginewered, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Said, it's a big old potato sac thing with a

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Speaker 5: couple of letters on an initialism.

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Speaker 6: And you know what it is, Opening week.

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Speaker 5: So let's talk some Giants baseball like we haven't been

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Speaker 5: doing it all show, and after last year's doozy.

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Speaker 6: Of a it better be.

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Speaker 5: It's better to be a Giants fan than a Dodgers fan.

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Speaker 5: Ticket can't really get any here we go, all right,

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Speaker 5: So tomorrow is Opening Day, a day steeped in tradition

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Speaker 5: as we get our art rival in the New York Yankees,

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Speaker 5: And nothing says tradition in nearly one hundred and forty

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Speaker 5: years of Giants Baseball like Netflix, but all minor gri

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Speaker 5: gribes a side it's time for another season.

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Speaker 6: Of thrilling Giants' actions.

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Speaker 5: So as I was hitting a horde of bugs, avoiding

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Speaker 5: semi trucks, and living moss on my drive home, I

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Speaker 5: started compiling a list of what Web is watching for

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Speaker 5: the upcoming twenty twenty six season. So, just what the

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Speaker 5: hell are we looking for? Well, number one, it's the starters.

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Speaker 5: And now you guys know, I love my namesake, Logan Webb.

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Speaker 5: He's dominant in the World Baseball Classic. He's thrown three

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Speaker 5: straight seasons of two hundred innings. Actually close to four.

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Speaker 5: He threw one hundred and ninety two. He threw two

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Speaker 5: hundred and twenty four strikeouts. That's a career high last year.

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Speaker 5: To quote Doc Holliday, Web is in his prime and

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Speaker 5: every Web day is a watch day. It's another year

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Speaker 5: of Robbie Ray and his grunting. But what we see

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Speaker 5: out of Land and Roup, Adrian Howser and Tyler Malley

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Speaker 5: to me kind of defines what the Giants do all season.

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Speaker 5: And waiting in the wings, well, it's a lot of

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Speaker 5: Seymour's at your McDonald's, at your wins.

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Speaker 6: Is that enough? I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 5: But it kind of brings us to the second biggest

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Speaker 6: Now, this could get interesting.

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Speaker 5: I cannot remember last time the Giants went into a

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Speaker 5: season with as much of a well, let's just kind

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Speaker 5: of figure it out on the fly. As the bullpen

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six. Your closer is Ryan Walker. He

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Speaker 5: was great this spring. He had a really shaky season

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Speaker 5: last year. Eric Miller, he's got great stuff. He was

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Speaker 5: injured for half the season last year. And that's just

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Speaker 5: the guys you have locked in. You got Jose Bhuttou,

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Speaker 5: You've got Joel Pagero, Matt Gage.

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Speaker 6: What do they give you? That's anyone's guest?

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Speaker 5: Brubaker, Sure, Ryan Barooki, Baroke Baroki BAROCKI. Well, he was

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Speaker 5: acquired in the last twenty minutes ago, so go get him.

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Speaker 5: And if you're saying, listen, dumbass, I know how Tony

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Speaker 5: Vaitello is gonna slot these guys. Well, I can remember

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Speaker 5: when I made up crap and threw it against the

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Speaker 5: it's really not all crap.

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Speaker 6: Clouds.

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Speaker 5: Your web's watch number three. You know this lineup to

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Speaker 5: quote Marty, They can hit, at least on paper pretty

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Speaker 5: well rounded lineup? Is it the Dodgers? Well, no, but

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Speaker 5: this full season of Raffie Devers. Sure, Willie get Damas

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Can I interest you in a Chapman and Aramos in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of strikeouts there, but fill it

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Speaker 6: I can roll with that.

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Speaker 5: And then if Pat Bailey struggles to hit two hundred,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't seem so glaring. And by the way, for

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Speaker 5: the record, I could not be more in favor Bryce

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Speaker 5: Eldris starting the season in the miners. When Eldris does

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Speaker 6: I wanted to get every bat possible.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to get every opportunity afforded to a true

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Speaker 5: number one prospects. Nineteen shrackouts and forty spring training at

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Speaker 5: bats tells me giving a twenty one year old a

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Speaker 5: little more time to just figure it out isn't exactly

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Speaker 5: the worst thing, especially if you want to give one

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Speaker 6: Gerar and Karnacione take it, Derek A.

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Speaker 5: Grant McCrae and Drew Gilbert. Yeah, offensively, it kind of

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Speaker 5: feels like the deepest iteration of Giants baseball in quite

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Speaker 6: And they hit lefties.

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Speaker 5: Well, last year was like watching American Pie The Naked Mile,

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Speaker 6: As you guys said, it was like watching it on repeat.

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Speaker 5: When this team promises to be a little bit at

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Speaker 5: least more athletics, So to sign me up in summation,

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Speaker 5: there's plenty to watch for in Giants baseball. We didn't

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Speaker 5: San Francisco looking to finally break through the ceiling of mediocrity?

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Speaker 5: Well you got one hundred and sixty two chances Webb's

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Speaker 6: And I, for one, am fired up.

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Speaker 7: Let's say you, well, I guess there was a comprehensive

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Speaker 2: With you too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm excited for the sort of baseball

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Speaker 1: But like it's such an unknown and we just talked

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Speaker 4: Against right handed hitters. That's something that's got to change.

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Speaker 1: A lot more fastballs and sliders and then back low

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Speaker 1: home runs last year at a rate that was not

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Speaker 1: more than I think. I'm excited. You're excited when you're like,

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Speaker 1: this team has something this year.

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Speaker 2: I got to see it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that yet.

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Speaker 5: Well, what's interesting to me is if they get the

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Speaker 5: starters limping to finish five innings, and we've all seen

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Speaker 5: that in this kind of era that we're in right now,

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Speaker 5: because we don't really know what you know, innings you know, five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 5: be problematic. However, what if we see Tony Bidello do

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Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that since Buster's so involved in this, Like,

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Speaker 1: stuff that's different, but that's bold. That's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're seeing stuff that like, I can't believe we're

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Speaker 2: Because he's a college I don't think he's taking those

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Speaker 7: Maybe later on, but I think the real the thing

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Speaker 7: that Tim's getting add and everbody's talking about is really

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Speaker 7: we're just excited for baseball season to start, as far

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Speaker 7: as excitement for this team, just a big question mark.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a bigger question mark that we've.

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Speaker 7: Had in recent years with the Giants when it comes

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Speaker 7: to the pitching aspect of it. But there's there is

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Speaker 7: hope offensively, Okay, it's just a matter of how it's

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Speaker 2: We have a lineup for tonight as well. We do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Luisa Rise is leading off tonight.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the didn't just six forty five, six

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Speaker 1: thirty pre game right here on the Sports Leader against

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Speaker 1: Sultanas de Monterrey. Luisa Rise leads off at second. Harrison

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Speaker 1: Vader bats second tonight in centerfield, Devers hits third, dhing

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Speaker 1: Adamas hits fourth at short Jung Houlee hits fifth in

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Speaker 1: seventh at first base. Today, Daniel Sussak H's eighth at

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Speaker 1: catch Eskinize catching that's right. Christian Koss is over at

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Speaker 1: third base third base tonight, and then Landon.

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Speaker 4: Group is on the mount for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I know, and by the way the moves today, the

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Speaker 6: That you're making right here.

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Speaker 4: Of this trip you just went on. It was to

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Speaker 1: When I take time off, if it's to enjoy time,

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Speaker 2: That's the way you should do it.

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Speaker 5: If it led to the point that really the thing

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Speaker 6: And he's like, dude, what are you doing right now?

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Speaker 6: He was with me his brother about did text though.

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Speaker 1: Fan was like, yeah, Tim, you loser. Yeahs like hanging

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Speaker 6: T and tack. You were hanging out at picnic, you know,

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Speaker 4: Once you got forest trivia.

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Speaker 5: Guys are your fans Sarrach sauce? Right, big fan of saraunch.

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Speaker 5: You know Sirach is actually named after a city. What

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Speaker 2: Thailand? Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 4: Like another country though?

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Speaker 3: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Did you believe that or did you just not?

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Speaker 4: I think it's a ti chili sauce.

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Speaker 6: It is a ti chili.

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Speaker 5: That is a first round question.

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Speaker 6: Great job.

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and one, fledgling movie studio DreamWorks, which

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Speaker 6: You've heard of it. It's called Shrek.

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Speaker 5: Was announced a new Shrek movie would be out next year.

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Speaker 5: What number Shrek film isn't now?

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Speaker 2: Five?

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Speaker 6: No Puss in boots spinning five? That is correct?

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Speaker 2: We got in a little bit of Shrek.

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Speaker 7: Yes, remember that guy called in, what what Shrek's girl's name?

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Speaker 2: He said, what about Shrek's girl? We said, feeling. We

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Speaker 6: That's all all I got.

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Speaker 5: All right, dud, one more too, Sure, Mexico borders three

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Speaker 2: The Gulf of America. I'm just going with you when

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Speaker 4: The question was what.

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Speaker 2: And what? I don't know. It's now my forte. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know, tim I got nothing. Just go

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Speaker 5: Well the one in south is Guatemala that everyone forgets

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Speaker 6: Uh believe believe?

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Speaker 2: One more. Derek wants a fourth, Give him one more, Derek.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Derek, you probably get this.

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Speaker 5: What type of plant is a Choya found in parts

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Speaker 5: Grand Theft Auto would probably know or Red Dead Redemption.

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Speaker 6: Would probably know that I've beaten it.

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Speaker 2: Just beat it again.

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Speaker 6: Where is Choya Springs in the game.

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Speaker 1: You're just saying it's like a I don't know, like

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Speaker 6: It's a type of cactus.

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Speaker 7: Oh, that makes this with the Western when you were

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Speaker 4: It takes in trivia.

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Speaker 1: By the way, tonight we told everybody we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: it tonight. By the way, take it on. Dj t's

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Speaker 2: They need I love them.

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Speaker 4: I love the team from Nashville, Big Predators.

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Speaker 2: Guy love the Breads. They need this one to night coach.

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Speaker 1: one five eight, eight five six two seven is the

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Speaker 1: number to call and a text which which player has

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Speaker 1: the most pressure.

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Speaker 4: On them this season. We'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 1: Dirty Work rolls on on a Tuesday on The Sports Leader.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon, Dirty Work with you Our can be Our

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Speaker 1: Giants roundtable goes down tomorrow at two o'clock same time

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Speaker 1: from two until four. Our Giants round table getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the start of the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 4: Open to the public. Don't need a ticket for the game,

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Speaker 4: so come.

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Speaker 1: On by early get ready for the start of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season. And we gave you the Giants

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Speaker 1: lineup for tonight arises in. There's a lot of starters.

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Speaker 1: Beater's in there hitting second. Yeah, you've got Devers in

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Speaker 1: there hitting third, a Damas is fourth, Casey Schmid's at

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Speaker 1: third today, Ramos Ramos is in their Susas in there,

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Speaker 1: and then Jung hou Lee of course, and Landing Roop

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Speaker 1: is on the hill today and a Christian causes it.

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Speaker 2: Gonna look a little different tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yes it should well, yeah, and we'll see what the

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Speaker 1: the everyday run A batter being second in the line

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Speaker 1: up there, No, I don't think that's the plan. I

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Speaker 1: think I think it'll be different tomorrow. I think when

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Speaker 1: Chapman's in there, it'll look different exactly what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at what lineups could look like. And to be honest,

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Speaker 1: while I don't love batter in that spot because of

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Speaker 1: the strikeouts, you want a good contact guy in there,

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Speaker 1: not a terrible play a dude hitting behind Luisa Rise

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Speaker 1: or maybe with a little bit of pop, could could

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Speaker 1: double a guy like that in. But just to look

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Speaker 1: at what lineups will look like when they give days

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Speaker 1: arrest too, you know what I mean? Like Chapman's gonna

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Speaker 1: play damn near every day. Yeah, he's mostly gonna be

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Speaker 1: out there on days where somebody else gets arrest. Dever's

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Speaker 1: not at first tonight He's going to DH, which is,

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Speaker 1: by the way, something we might see to start the season.

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Speaker 1: You were asking who's most likely to DH, and I said,

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Speaker 1: en carnassion, it may more likely be Raphael Devers. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got Casey Schmidt playing for his base.

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Speaker 2: That could be the case.

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Speaker 7: That might be the case, and that would help out

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Speaker 7: John Dickinson with his prediction that he hits twenty home

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Speaker 7: runs this season.

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Speaker 2: So the question then is like which would be found money?

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Speaker 2: That'd be great.

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Speaker 1: I think Casey Schmidt's got a lot of tools, and

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Speaker 1: I think he can be a real asset as a

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Speaker 1: utility guy for the Giants. So the question I would have,

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Speaker 1: or that you have, is who's got the most pressure

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Speaker 1: on them to perform this year for the Giants?

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Speaker 2: Because if you were going to like rank them like where.

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Speaker 4: Would you go?

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Speaker 2: What are your first thoughts?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean you said player initially when when I

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Speaker 7: think of it, Matello of course yes and one Buster yes,

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Speaker 7: well you know what, not so much Buster, like I.

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Speaker 4: Asked to answer for Mitello. So that's it's sort of one.

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Speaker 7: Of these things does But I think that that really

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Speaker 7: will fall on Vitello this first season, and it's only

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Speaker 7: like it's going to be where we have to see

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Speaker 7: Buster do this job for years and years and years

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Speaker 7: to finally think like, okay, is he actually capable of

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Speaker 7: doing this? And we give him a so far so

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Speaker 7: good like last year, get endeavors, big time.

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Speaker 2: Moves, good move Buster, and it's not his fault.

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Speaker 7: Like he he's kind of blaming it on Bob Melvin

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Speaker 7: when he came on these airwaves and said it's time

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Speaker 7: to go. This wasn't an evaluation season for him. This

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Speaker 7: was I want to compete this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how Busterer happy with losing.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, that's what I was talking about

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Speaker 1: him saying, I want to see more of what Buster

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Speaker 1: believes in in Vitello.

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Speaker 2: I want we need to see that.

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Speaker 4: I want to see that.

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Speaker 1: I want to see you know, I mean Buster went

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Speaker 1: out and I'm not thrilled about the way they approached

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Speaker 1: the rotation this offseason. But let's see, Like Molly's a

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Speaker 1: guy who's had a track record, and Lawser's been around.

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of are they going to be

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Speaker 1: healthy enough for the year with an aging Robby Ray.

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Speaker 1: I think Robbie Ray's a guy there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure on and then by proxy Logan Webb.

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Speaker 4: Like when you're relying on on one.

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Speaker 1: Guy in Robbie Ray, who's in a contract year, and

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Speaker 1: I imagine he's going to continue to pitch. He's got

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Speaker 1: a contract year.

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Speaker 4: He's had one full season in the last three years,

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Speaker 4: which is last year. But okay, can he do it again?

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Speaker 1: You've got two guys coming off of injuries and then

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Speaker 1: Land and rup put. He did come back from the

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Speaker 1: arm injury last year, so we can say coming off

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Speaker 1: an injury, but he returned and then left because of

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Speaker 1: the bone bruis right, the line drive off his leg,

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Speaker 1: so that was a bit different. Like I'm not really

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Speaker 1: concerned about him. I'm excited about Landing group. Like I

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Speaker 1: think he's a guy I'm confident and a guy who

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Speaker 1: again barring injury should be okay, Banking on three guys

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the rotation who have had injuries

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Speaker 1: that kept them out significant time in the last three

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Speaker 1: years is a bit worrisome, and so that puts a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure.

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Speaker 4: On Logan Web.

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Speaker 1: Now, he's a guy who's durable and he's been healthy,

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Speaker 1: but injuries are part of sports.

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Speaker 2: We've seen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there any fan base or any region

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Speaker 1: of the country right now that is a better association

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Speaker 1: with superstar injuries than the Bay Area? Oh my god, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw Gray Silver post this yesterday after

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Speaker 1: Moses Moody went down with a devastating injury. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: were like, look at all the injuries to major players

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Speaker 1: in the Bay Area this year. Steph Curry's won just

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Speaker 1: over twenty games injuries. Two injuries this season in the

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Speaker 1: calendar year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You've got Nick Bosa, Fred Warner, George kittle yep

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Speaker 1: Rock Perty, Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Perty came back though. I mean, like guys who

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Speaker 2: are like significant interest as.

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Speaker 1: You like even right now, are out. I didn't finish

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Speaker 1: the year or maybe out to start next season. So

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Speaker 1: I know Warner and Buss what we expect back but

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Speaker 1: just in the last two seasons of that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to put that on any giant, of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that because of what you're hoping to

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Speaker 1: get from the rotational pieces you added. And again, maybe

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Speaker 1: somebody works their way on. Maybe maybe wizzen Hunt works

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Speaker 1: his way back in and becomes a starter. He looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I thought at times in spring maybe McDonald

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Speaker 1: gets some of that.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But like logan Web has a lot on him because

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Speaker 1: he has to do what he does every five days

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Speaker 1: like he has for the last four years or five

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Speaker 1: years four seasons to me, because what fifth opening days start?

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Speaker 1: But like you need him to do that or where

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, there's always pressure on Logan Web to perform.

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Speaker 4: He's a true ace now and the only guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, and he takes that on as really the

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Speaker 7: leader of the team right now. But as far as

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Speaker 7: like pressure where you know, like we're out to citing

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Speaker 7: Logo Web's future this season. So when I say pressure,

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about like guys that are playing for something

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Speaker 7: this year. And I think and I when when when

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Speaker 7: I when I think of that topic, I think of

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Speaker 7: Junghu Lee I think of Elie Ramos, I think of

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Speaker 7: Ryan Walker from a year ago where it wasn't great.

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Speaker 7: I don't think a lot of people are necessarily confident

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Speaker 7: or comfortable with him being the closer.

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Speaker 1: This yeah, by nature as being the closer, you have

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Speaker 1: to be in like the top five, no matter if

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Speaker 1: you're a Hall of Fame closer or it's your first

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Speaker 1: year doing it. You have to continue what you've what

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Speaker 1: you've started to show. Closer is always going to have

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Speaker 1: the most pressure because if you don't have one, or

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Speaker 1: one that's not consistent, it's really hard to be a

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Speaker 1: consistently good team.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so I think he's got I mean, he has

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Speaker 1: all the weapons to do it. It's they've got to

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Speaker 1: improve on some of the usage and whatever it was

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Speaker 1: that made him ineffective last year. And the confidence is

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Speaker 1: maybe a thing with the late inning reliever. But this

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Speaker 1: is something I always talk about. What I shall always

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Speaker 1: say the Jensen effect and the and the Don Tree

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Speaker 1: willis effect first time through the league, and George Kanto

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Speaker 1: said it to us, sometimes there's a regression the second

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Speaker 1: time through because teams adjust to you. And as a starter,

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Speaker 1: that happens much quicker because you pitch more, you face

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Speaker 1: more teams. You're in games every fifth day, versus not

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Speaker 1: necessarily more teams, but versus a reliever who may be

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Speaker 1: able to get by because you're only facing a couple

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Speaker 1: of batters every couple of days, you're only throwing a

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Speaker 1: couple of pitches. The league doesn't have as much time

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Speaker 1: to get a book on you because there's just not

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Speaker 1: as much tape or video or whatever it is to

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Speaker 1: evalue it. So the second time through, often for relievers,

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Speaker 1: is like second season. I know, he fell out out

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Speaker 1: of the closer spot and lost it and they were

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Speaker 1: able to hammer it down with Devall and then Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: for a while, but there is a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on him. The other guy, and I mentioned him the

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Speaker 1: other day.

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Speaker 2: Is Devs. Yeah. I mean we have to see a way.

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Speaker 4: Better version of him than we saw last year. Absolutely giant.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's the same type of pressure that it's

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Speaker 7: going to be applied to Willia Domins and Matt Chapman

645
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Speaker 7: as the guys making the big money and as being

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Speaker 7: the leaders of the baseball team right now, and they

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Speaker 7: need to perform.

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Speaker 1: Domas just has to keep the I mean he had

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Speaker 1: thirty last year, he's got to stay at the court,

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Speaker 1: like he just can't be the guy to carry the team.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who can carry an offense, I think

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Speaker 1: for a week or so. He can pop it in pockets,

653
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Speaker 1: but Devers has to be the guy. I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's less on a Damas this year, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna feel that. I think it's more because he's

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Speaker 1: not the new guy anymore. They've brought another bigger names

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Speaker 1: even than him, and in Deavors Eldridge is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a story. He doesn't have to carry them, but he's

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Speaker 1: gotta be the guy they paid for, which is what

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Speaker 1: we saw last year, more consistent with the glove. And

661
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Speaker 1: he's got to still hit. He's gonna strike out, that's

662
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: that's what he does. But he hits for power hit

663
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Speaker 1: thirty eight oracle.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

665
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Speaker 7: But I think with those guys like that's pressure that's

666
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 7: always there for stars of a team, Like there's always

667
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 7: gonna be pressure on the starting quarterback of an NFL team,

668
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 7: but nothing's like, nothing's gonna be like this is make

669
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Speaker 7: or break for them, Like Raphael Devers.

670
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Speaker 2: Yes, he's the most important player on the team.

671
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Speaker 7: And we've talked about a copse where their success is

672
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 7: predicated on his success. So but to me, like the

673
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 7: real pressure is the guys I talked about earlier in

674
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Speaker 7: Junghu Lee and Ellie Ramos. Where Elie Ramos, you know, like, yes,

675
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 7: he's gonna start a left field tomorrow, but is he

676
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 7: gonna be here the entire season? Because last year we

677
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 7: saw him play left field and there were some bonehead

678
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 7: mistakes not to mention, I mean, he started off hot

679
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 7: the last two years, the kind of faded to the

680
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 7: down the stretch of the season, and he had an

681
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 7: all star season in twenty twenty four, but really has

682
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 7: not been that same guy. And let's not also neglect

683
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 7: a year ago where he did he did kind of

684
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 7: call off the fans that whole thing with we want

685
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 7: our fans to support us those This is Eli Ramas, Yes, right,

686
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 7: he called out the fans. He's struggling a bit, yeah,

687
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 7: he and and that happened and he was he was

688
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 7: backing up his guy, Bob Melvin two.

689
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: But I think that that's.

690
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 7: A guy you can look at where if the bullpen

691
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 7: is not successful, the starting rotations not, you can move him.

692
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 7: The same thing with Junghu Lee, where in my opinion,

693
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 7: he has kind of been already replaced where he's not

694
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 7: your leadoff guy anymore, and he's not your guy in

695
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 7: center field. Now you can easily change that up and

696
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 7: putting him in right field, but really they they kind

697
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 7: of thought that Luisa Rise is more of that guy

698
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 7: than he is, and we could see, you know, like

699
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 7: I know that contract is a lot, but that's not

700
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 7: Buster's guy. He did not sign him. So I do

701
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 7: think it's going to make or break for him, along

702
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 7: with with Eli Ramas this year.

703
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: I John Lee is a great one because he's a

704
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: guy making money. He's a guy that was signed to

705
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: a big contract the ownership signed off on under far

706
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Hunt like they were willing to do that. You got

707
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: to got to remember that too. Ownership signs off on

708
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: that contract for a player who's unproven at the major

709
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: league level under Farhan and they knew that, you know,

710
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: things weren't going the best under Farhunt when they agreed

711
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: to it. So I don't think the evaluation of Jung

712
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: Hooley is poor. But to your point, it's not wrong

713
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: to say he's been replaced, seeing as they wanted him

714
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: to bat in the upper part of the lineup At

715
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: one point, I think they were talking about bat in

716
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: three last year, or they might have even even early

717
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: in the season saying that, yet he was swinging the

718
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: bat pretty well. He's a guy who again also can't

719
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: be a focal point if he's hitting like eight or seven.

720
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: I feel much better about that right know's if he's

721
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: lower in the lineup. We know he can play right field.

722
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a good defender. I don't

723
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: have a problem with his with his defense at all,

724
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: and I think they think they're going to get more

725
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: out of him by moving him to right. But to

726
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: your point, this is to me the comp of Kyle

727
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Shanahan coming in and figuring out what he wants and

728
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: needs and what can be moved around to get the

729
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: most out of moved Armstead from outside to inside and

730
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: got that guy a couple more contracts.

731
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Right.

732
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't know as an edge rusher, that guy wasn't

733
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: gonna sert at that position, right, But they move him

734
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: inside and now the guy's still on another big contract

735
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: as ad tackle in Jacksonville. This is that situation for

736
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: me where we're not we don't think we're gonna get

737
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: the most out of you in centerfield.

738
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: We just tried to see it for a year. So

739
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: what can we do.

740
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we're best suited getting another centerfielder with a little

741
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: bit better bat and stronger bat, A plus defender, plus

742
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: plus move you to write and see how much we

743
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: can benefit from that because you're paying him and it's

744
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: a year three of us six year I want to

745
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: say for.

746
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Jo and I think he has an option in two seasons.

747
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: I believe well, I'll check on that in just a minute,

748
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, Jung Hoole is a good one because if

749
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: that becomes a hole. And again, I don't think he's

750
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna I think he's gonna be like he hasn't been horrible. No,

751
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what we expected. I was hoping for more.

752
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: I was hoping for a little bit more excitement. We'll

753
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: see how he fits into Tony Vitello's system, but they

754
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: kind of have to play him because they're paying him

755
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: and they have him. And who's gonna take that if

756
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: if you're giving him away, you're paying him to go away,

757
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: and he's under contract for too long at this point

758
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: to do that with really one season under his belt.

759
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Don't forget, he's not energy what is really his second season.

760
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: No One, and it would be difficult to move off

761
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: of him.

762
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 7: But I think there is that applied pressure along with

763
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: Lee Ramos, where if you do move off of him,

764
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 7: they have a guy and Tony and Drew Gilbert that

765
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 7: Tony Vitello knows very well and we'll see if he

766
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 7: could be that guy in left field. But the real

767
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 7: answer is Tony Vitello, like, yes, there is applied pressure

768
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 7: to all these guys on the roster right now. They

769
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 7: do need to perform by the same time. This is

770
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 7: fair or unfair, We're we're gonna apply a lot of

771
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 7: pressure to Tony Vitello because this is something totally different.

772
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something where yeah, good well, I'm.

773
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 7: Just saying, like if he was in a different market,

774
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 7: like you imagine if he was the manager of the

775
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 7: Yankees and I would do this, Probably not, but let's

776
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 7: let's just say they did. He would be like just

777
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 7: crucified every single day if he made the slightest mistake.

778
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna we're going to have a pass

779
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 7: most days. But if it starts to accumulate and they

780
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 7: start to get swept in four games by the Dodgers again,

781
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 7: it's gonna be the same shows that you and I

782
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 7: have done where Bob Melvin was a manager. Well, people

783
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 7: are all turning on Tony Vitello in your one.

784
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm just not going that route yet. I'm just like,

785
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about how bad it could be, Like

786
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I've just it. It hasn't even they haven't played a

787
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: game yet, Like I can't even fathom thinking about it

788
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: from the from that perspective of like, well, I know

789
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: the pressure's on him. The pressure's on every manager inherently,

790
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: the same as like a closer. I'm like, of course

791
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be the pressure's on him with the

792
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: spotlights on him as well. It's more of a spotlight

793
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: because there's no that the pressure was gonna be here

794
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: it was. If it was Melvin would have been in

795
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the last year of a deal and they missed the playoffs,

796
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: like it would have been pressure for anybody. If you're

797
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: in this run that the Giants have been in and

798
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: Buster takes over and they've made changes organizationally twice and

799
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: they're they're saying it's time to go, and they're committing

800
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: more money to big time players. It is time to go.

801
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Why Buster had to get his guy in place, and say, hey,

802
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do things my way, I have to

803
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: get my guy in So I'm more excited and intrigued

804
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: to see how this goes.

805
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

806
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I was more skeptical early on, But it's just baseball,

807
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, we'll see how it goes.

808
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: There's a lot of management to be had, but like

809
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: it's baseball, and Buster, Posey's involved, and Dusty's involved in

810
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Bush and he's got Ron Washington with him there. Like

811
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not really concerned about a lot of that

812
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: on field stuff or thinking this is going to fail miserably.

813
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: There's pressure on him, for sure, but the pressure like

814
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: he can do everything. He's not gonna drop a new

815
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: play like Kyle Shannity. He's not gonna run drop something

816
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: more creative. He's not gonna you know what I mean.

817
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: It's it's on Kyle when they don't win, it's on

818
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: the manager, but it's on the pressures on the players

819
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: to execute and by proxy I said before Buster, because

820
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: this is the team he's rolling out, you know what

821
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean.

822
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 7: No, I agree with you where I don't want to

823
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 7: make it like overly negative right away, because I don't

824
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 7: think he's gonna have the same impact that a Steve

825
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: Kerr or a Kyle Shanahan have on their sports. But

826
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 7: it's just gonna be something that's dissected not by us,

827
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 7: not only by us, but nationally where this is something

828
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 7: just brand new, where I think.

829
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, oh yeah, the spotlight makes it way different.

830
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 7: Absolutely, like the buster Ol Knees, the Tim Kirchins will

831
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 7: look at that Netflix did, Yeah exactly, but yes, his

832
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 7: debut was on Netflix. But like that's the entry too,

833
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 7: is like this guy comes from the college ranks, He's

834
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 7: never done this before, and yes, I think that I

835
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 7: don't think this is gonna go like go horribly because

836
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 7: I think this team is very talented, but the biggest

837
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 7: thing that that managers are crucified for is there how

838
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 7: they manage a bullpen and we have no idea how

839
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: this Giants bullpen is gonna go the That's the toughest

840
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 7: thing for Tony Vitello off the back in his first year.

841
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: So I just think it's gonna be interesting from us

842
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: locally but also nationally where people see this guy it's

843
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 7: something we've never seen before and they're like, can this guy.

844
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 7: Can this guy break down barriers for other college coaches

845
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 7: or what's this a huge mistake Atawa?

846
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: Cambi our four one to five, eight eight, five, six

847
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: two seven. Don't want to hear what you guys think

848
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: about the pressure on certain players. I mean, there's no

849
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: question it's Vitello. But if we're gonna talk players, like

850
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 1: if we were gonna go jung Houli, we were gonna go.

851
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I think logan Web has a lot of inherent pressure

852
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: because he has to continue doing what we you take

853
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it for granted, almost with an ace of his caliber.

854
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: He's gonna eat two hundred innings. You need to eat

855
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: those innings.

856
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: You have to.

857
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: You can't put them on the bullpen or on young

858
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: arms of Frankenstein patchwork of a rotation right like we've

859
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: seen in the last few years. So eight OA cambr

860
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: is a number to call and the number to text

861
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: more pressure Jung Hooley, Raphile Devers or Logan Web entering

862
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: the season, because there's not really an for the Giants

863
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: with Lee unless you're just eating money. And I don't

864
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: think he's been that bad, but you paid him one

865
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: hundred mili, you know more to come anyway, cam y

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867
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Speaker 1: Giants take on Sultana's De Montenay Tonight today forty five,

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Speaker 1: I think so yeah, very civil, yeah, especially between JD

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Speaker 1: and JD and Murph, The Thriller at Third and King

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Speaker 1: The Thriller, The Thriller at Third and The Thriller Which

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Speaker 1: Giant has the most pressure around him to perform this season?

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Speaker 1: Eight Away cambyr is a number to call and the

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Speaker 1: number to text. Let's go out to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Frank is in San Francisco. Frank, you're on the Sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: Right you there?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Frank?

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Speaker 2: We got you.

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Speaker 8: The podcast. And the first thing that came to my

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Speaker 8: mind was on Tony the manager of how he manages

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Speaker 8: the maneuvers with substitutions. And I think everyone was commenting

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Speaker 8: on the bench for relievers, but one of the things

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Speaker 8: that came to mind was the previous managers had like

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Speaker 8: Catcher's experience of how they would maneuver the players in

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Speaker 8: the lineups during the game. And I'm excited to see

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Speaker 8: how how this year plays out with the new manager

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Speaker 8: with his expense in the college and how that would

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Speaker 8: implement with the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm intrigued by that too. I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess my issue, Frank is just like I don't

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Speaker 1: really know how to gauge that throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: the season. Because he could make five or six or

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Speaker 1: seven or eight or twenty good moves, and good moves

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Speaker 1: just me and the guys are doing their job. But

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Speaker 1: if he makes a move that we're like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't have gone to that picture there?

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Speaker 4: Does that mean now people will view him as a

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like how many times does he have to be right

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Speaker 1: before we think he's hitting the right buttons because he

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Speaker 1: could be pushing the right buttons and the guys aren't performing.

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Speaker 1: And I just there's pressure on him, I agree, But

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Speaker 1: also the management of those players in game, Like he's

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Speaker 1: got Jase Taylor on the bench, his bench catch he

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Speaker 1: was a manager, he's got to and he's not him

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Speaker 1: for from the playing days in college.

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Speaker 4: He's got Ron Washington.

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, but I also well, the pressure

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Speaker 1: is generally on him as the manager and in a

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Speaker 1: new spot. I just I don't know how we're going

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Speaker 1: to quantify that throughout the season like we can with

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Speaker 1: numbers and performance for players.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a couple of years ago where Boots

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Speaker 8: took advantage of a younger manager. I don't know. I

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Speaker 8: think it was the Yankees, and we were able to

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Speaker 8: pull off the series or the win because of the

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Speaker 8: manager's inexperience of the Major League rule board with substituting

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Speaker 8: and maneuver of players. But tuts hey, I'm just showing

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Speaker 8: the tut that came to mind when you guys brought

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Speaker 8: up the question. I thought it was a valid one

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Speaker 8: looking forward to this year, you guys be.

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Speaker 2: Safe much the call bro.

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Speaker 1: I think what he's talking about at the time, Bach

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Speaker 1: got Don Mattingly and he's thinking formerly Yankee, but he

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Speaker 1: was manager of the manager of the Dodgers at the time.

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Speaker 1: Not only went to the mound twice in one in

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Speaker 1: one two different mound visits in butchers they're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to do that. So he had to pull his picture out,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he had somebody ready completely or

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Speaker 1: wasn't ready to pull the picture. And so it is

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Speaker 1: funny now when French said that, I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: that was a cool moment. And we all love like

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Speaker 1: you love when Mike Vrabel has a loophole in the

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Speaker 1: rule book, or Dan Lanning did it in Oregon last

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Speaker 1: year where they manipulated the clock at the end where

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Speaker 1: they they ran a play that manipulated clock time where

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Speaker 1: they couldn't put time back on even though it was

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Speaker 1: a penalty.

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Speaker 4: Whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: And they changed the rule like the following week, in

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Speaker 1: the in the in the play, in the rule book.

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Speaker 1: But it's cool when you know you have guys who

959
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Speaker 1: know the rule book better than anybody. Kobe, they say,

960
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Speaker 1: used to do that. Kobe would every year get the officials.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw him do this in an interview

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Speaker 1: talk about it. He would buy the he would get

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Speaker 1: the officials like the one that the NBA officials get right,

964
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Speaker 1: like the rule book and how they're it's like they're

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Speaker 1: officiating handbook. How they were supposed to officiate you. Where

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Speaker 1: are they're supposed to look when you're in certain spots.

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Speaker 2: On the floor, how hands just he would play games which.

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Speaker 1: Official was supposed to be watching you when you're in

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Speaker 1: a certain place. Kobe knew all this every year inherently,

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Speaker 1: and then would use it in the game to be

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Speaker 1: like I can get away with a hand check and

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Speaker 1: I'll never get called because this official is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be watching that over there.

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Speaker 7: No, And I'm not surprised by that, because Tony Cob

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Speaker 7: was a maniac whether the rules.

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Speaker 4: Then you can go to bat and arg no, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I'm a rules guy.

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Speaker 1: If we're playing a game, I want to know all

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Speaker 1: the rules because I want to be able to manipulate

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Speaker 1: in whatever way I can or hold things accountable and

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Speaker 1: be like, this is within the bounds of the rules.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Tony Faittilla knows the rules of baseball,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm what I do understand here that he's

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Speaker 1: saying is again, Don Mattingly had other guys on the

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Speaker 1: bench here. He wasn't just him, He had whole coaching

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Speaker 1: staff and this guy played baseball and borderline probably should

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Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So what's funny, though, is the the thought that all

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Speaker 1: man could could we be the Mattingly here, like could

991
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Speaker 1: at times, could at times our guy get duped? But again,

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe it could be that could happen. That's

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Speaker 1: just a maddingly thing. And again, it doesn't mean Tony

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Speaker 1: Vitello's just just because he's he's an infinite in Major

995
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Speaker 1: League Baseball in this role does not mean he doesn't

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Speaker 1: understand the rule. And again, it's why they have so much,

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Speaker 1: so many other staff members who are previous major leaders. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're previous managers or have been around the game for

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Speaker 1: fifty years.

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Speaker 7: There's definitely gonna be growing pains with Tony v Tel

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Speaker 7: in his first year. Is just a matter of can

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Speaker 7: this team overcome them or can he overcome his early

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Speaker 7: mistakes as the season goes on. But yeah, I don't

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Speaker 7: think that he's just such such a baby in this

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Speaker 7: thing where he's not gonna know the rule book. Now,

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Speaker 7: there may be times where you know, he may do

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Speaker 7: something embarrassing he has to answer for it. I think

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Speaker 7: he's capable of doing that where he owns it. He

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Speaker 7: is definitely you know, he's very self aware when he

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Speaker 7: talks to the media. So I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 7: be where he's embarrassed. I think it's just gonna be

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 7: learning experiences. But we were talking about it earlier Coaps

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Speaker 7: as far as pressure for this season, and we got

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Speaker 7: text from the seven zero seven years Sis. Thanks for

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Speaker 7: the Baseball Talk. Guys love the show today. The most

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Speaker 7: pressure I'd say isn't on in one individual player, but

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Speaker 7: I think it's on Posey and Zach. They did nothing

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Speaker 7: to help rebuild the bullpen. How do you get from

1019
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 7: the sixth to the ninth as a setup man for

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Speaker 7: say ten million or so, would have really helped big time.

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Speaker 7: I don't know he's referring to him there, but you

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Speaker 7: brought up early when we're talking about I said, we're

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Speaker 7: not going off of players, We're going off of you know,

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Speaker 7: Tony vitel Oh for pressure this season?

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's pressure on Buster Posey? That's what

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Speaker 2: I said.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, here's the thing is if

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Speaker 1: there if there's pressure on Vitello, there has to be

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Speaker 1: pressure on Buster because he picked Up's what I'm saying

1030
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Speaker 1: is it's his call to do this. So it's like

1031
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Speaker 1: when you go to a guy. And I remember thinking

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Speaker 1: that even when the Warriors moved off of Mark Jackson,

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't even totally in favor of that at

1034
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Speaker 1: the time. I was like, he built this up, Like

1035
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: they've gotten this far. It's the best and most consistent

1036
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Speaker 1: they'd been in my time, in my lifetime with especially

1037
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Speaker 1: homegrown talent, because the one other time was We Believe

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Speaker 1: and it was a short lived window with Don Nelson's

1039
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Speaker 1: return and all that. But yeah, I think there's I

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Speaker 1: think there's pressure on anybody who takes this role after

1041
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Speaker 1: this long of a drought and buster us high standards,

1042
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Speaker 1: so like pressure in the sense of like there's no

1043
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Speaker 1: hot seat, right, It's not like that, but there are

1044
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Speaker 1: like if they didn't make if they don't make the

1045
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Speaker 1: playoffs this year, I think there's gonna be like the

1046
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Speaker 1: people are gonna be upset.

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Speaker 4: I'll be upset. You'll, dude, how many years are we

1048
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Speaker 4: going to do this? How long?

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Speaker 1: While the Dodgers march again to a division crown and

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Speaker 1: likely the LCS and beyond, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: that's that's where we're at. So it's it's twofold. It's

1052
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Speaker 1: the lack of success or playoff birth. It's one playoff

1053
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Speaker 1: appearance since twenty sixteen, which is crazy. That's crazy, people,

1054
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Speaker 1: This is this is crazy. Yeah, dude, that's that's nuts.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's not how Giants baseball has been at any point

1057
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Speaker 1: in my life. For this long of a draft is crazy.

1058
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Speaker 1: And so it has to turn. And I know other

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Speaker 1: Giants fans experienced this in the seventies and into the

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Speaker 1: eighties before the the kids came up and they win

1061
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Speaker 1: the Pennant in eighty nine and all that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a. There's a pressure around this.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Buster took this role, and within two years, based on

1065
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Speaker 1: the money they've spent, they should be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I don't I agree with the callers says like,

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Speaker 1: I don't love how they've they've rebuilt the or didn't

1068
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Speaker 1: rebuild the bullpen.

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Speaker 4: So I'm or the text.

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Speaker 1: I'm with that, like I'm okay with the pieces they

1071
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Speaker 1: got or what they traded away, But we haven't seen

1072
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Speaker 1: the fruits of that labor yet either, So so what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jose BUTO, I guess is one for Tyler Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: But that's sort of a different beast.

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Speaker 1: He might have been gone anyway, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: based on how it played out, I thought that was

1077
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Speaker 1: the right move.

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Speaker 2: But you gave up Devall and then it kind of

1079
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Speaker 2: blew up.

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Speaker 1: When when you were holding on to Rodriguez and he

1081
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Speaker 1: makes the All Star team but hurts his arm.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean in that you know, no one could

1083
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Speaker 7: anticipate that. But at the same time, I don't blame

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Speaker 7: Buster Posey for making those moves at the time.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't they didn't readdress. They did.

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Speaker 7: They went all in as far as the offense, And

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Speaker 7: I'm okay with that because we saw where they went

1089
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Speaker 7: through just bad ruts where offensively they were just terrible.

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Speaker 7: So I get what they wanted to address that this

1091
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: offseason and get a good leadoff hitter and Luisa Rise

1092
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 7: and you know, Harrison Baders don't give you much offensively,

1093
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 7: but to sure up you know that that center field position.

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00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: I get that too, but you know we brought it

1095
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: up earlier.

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00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 7: Is it is it reasonable to expect maybe they can't

1097
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 7: finish second in the n AL West where the Padres

1098
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 7: take You know, Padre is.

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00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: Gonna regress a bit.

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00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: I mean the Rockies are you know, is there head

1101
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: of baseball though I don't actually hired him back back

1102
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: in baseball after I don't know, maybe nearly a decade

1103
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: from the Cleveland Browns.

1104
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Paul de Podesta. Oh, he's back with the Rocks.

1105
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: The Rockies did, Yeah, and he's trying to change their

1106
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: pitching philosophy completely and like the number of pitching, because

1107
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: the Rockies just have never produced a pitcher like ever, ever, ever,

1108
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: like one good year of Ubaldo Jimenez and that was

1109
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: kind of it. Yeah, they like it's so and it's

1110
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: funny because they have their Triple A team in Colorado.

1111
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: They've not drafted well or ever developed well. Plus they

1112
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: play baseball on the moon basically right you know where

1113
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: everything flies. So yeah, he's back after he's of course

1114
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: the Moneyball guy portrayed under a pseudonym in Moneyball by

1115
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill.

1116
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Brand.

1117
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Peter Brand is the name, but he was the the

1118
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: wonder kid, the whiz kid.

1119
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: Yes, she gets you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally different looking dude. No, does not look anything

1121
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: like Jonah Hill, not.

1122
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Even remotely close. But yeah, he's sort of a he's

1123
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: sort of an interesting dude. But he left major League baseball.

1124
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: He had a two year stint as the Dodgers GM.

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Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it might.

1126
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Have been right before Collodi ticket before got you think

1127
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: it might have been. I could have been right before Colletti.

1128
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Speaker 1: He had a two year stint as the Dodgers gm uh,

1129
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: and then left baseball and went to go be an

1130
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: assistant with the Browns. Yeah, and I was like, damn, dude,

1131
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: like got another president. Job with the Rock has been

1132
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: like there's been great successful Cleveland. No, not at all,

1133
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Like there's it's not like there's like a would you

1134
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: leave that off your resume.

1135
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: What have you been doing for eight years? I don't

1136
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: worry about it. Yeah, it was helping out the Cleveland

1137
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: Brown I don't worry about it. Yeah.

1138
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: They're like, where'd you come down on the Deshaun situation?

1139
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 7: Well, you know if you look at the analytics there,

1140
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 7: but no, like seriously, like with the Padres, like.

1141
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: They could take a step back.

1142
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: Acts are good man game.

1143
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 7: With Yeah with that, Dylan Cecileeving. I mean, yes, the

1144
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 7: dbacks Aaronatto this season and Meryl Kelly came back.

1145
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they they should be better. But I

1146
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: don't know.

1147
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 7: I don't think it's at the realm of possibility that

1148
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 7: that the I mean, it's a four gone conclusion. I

1149
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 7: don't think anybody should expect that the Giants win the division.

1150
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: Things are flukey and baseball sometimes, but the Dodgers should

1151
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 7: win that division. Is it crazy to maybe anticipate that

1152
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 7: the dog that the Giants could finish second? I mean,

1153
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 7: I think that's wishful thinking. By the same time, it

1154
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 7: should be your goal.

1155
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm with you. I mean the goals should

1156
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: be to finish first.

1157
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: It's funny we're like finish everybody else is everybody's doing

1158
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: the Larry Bird the Dodgers, like everybody's playing for a second,

1159
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: It's true, Like everybody we've talked to, does I think

1160
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: the Giants have a lineup to compete? They can compete,

1161
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: Can it compete with the Dodgers?

1162
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1163
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Nobody believes that.

1164
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: We don't really think that. But I know that the

1165
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: same division should be in the playoffs.

1166
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 7: Yes, but you shouldn't measured your success along with them

1167
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 7: right now. It really is just trying to get that

1168
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 7: third wild car spot.

1169
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, division gets you in for sure, of course, and

1170
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: may get you a home series. But if you got

1171
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: to do it and take them down the hard way,

1172
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: that's how you got to do it. It's just the

1173
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: nature of the game. Nine two five chicks in on

1174
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: the Golden State lumber and showroom text line. So so

1175
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: you guys allowed to openly ask Giants brass questions about

1176
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: not spending or leaving the big club short handed or

1177
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: at least shorreheaded enough that the fans feel that way.

1178
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Just seems like nobody's allowed to question them with that

1179
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: major pushback from them, almost feels like they're not trying

1180
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: to be competitive. Maybe sneak into the playoffs. This was

1181
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: my fear, by the way, in twenty twenty, with the

1182
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: expansion of the playoffs, the more teams you add, the

1183
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: less owners have to spend potentially to get in changes.

1184
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: How the deadline operates, the trade deadline. If you're like,

1185
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I can again the Giants. How bad were they in

1186
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: the second half? How boring and miserable were we watching

1187
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: them in the second half?

1188
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: Pretty best?

1189
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: Sixteen straight without five runs. I mean, it's incredible.

1190
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 7: They made a push at the end of the season,

1191
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 7: but it wasn't a realistic.

1192
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: They finished two games out of the playoffs.

1193
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: Did that feel like that? No?

1194
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: No, so I hear you ninety five where it's like,

1195
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe they're not spending as much. Yeah, but if you

1196
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: also look at the teams that spend, those are the

1197
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: teams that are the most successful. Like even the Pirates

1198
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: are like, well, we got to spend some We can't

1199
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: just sit back and waste schemes. Otherwise, what are we doing?

1200
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the A's did a little bit. Now once

1201
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: they've left, they spent more than they have in the past.

1202
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: They've locked players up. All that said, are we allowed

1203
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: to ask questions at Giants brass? Absolutely, we are nobody's

1204
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: ever told me or Derek what we can and can't ask,

1205
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: or said good opportunity I would ask, I would fllow.

1206
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: Up your question with a question of my own. She

1207
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: really think that they're coming on this show?

1208
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why every he goes to the

1209
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: morning show.

1210
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like all, I don't know if there's

1211
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not even saying there's a reason

1212
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: everybody does that. I'm saying, look at us, Yeah, you

1213
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, yeah.

1214
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: We're we're button pushers.

1215
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 7: But also, like I mean, like Murph also would would

1216
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 7: he definitely asked all the hardy questions to us and put.

1217
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: Murph Yeah they did. They get Larry bear On and

1218
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: stuff too. I mean, you take that for what it's worth.

1219
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: It's a it's an executive of an organization speaking to you.

1220
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that any organizations executives, CEOs, presidents are

1221
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: going to give you a straightforward answer.

1222
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: No, of course not.

1223
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: But you know what, I am best friends with Tony

1224
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 7: Vitello now, so maybe I'll work by magic on it.

1225
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: No, Merphus murphossbuster a lot of pointed questions.

1226
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I think Murph is great at that stuff, you know,

1227
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: definitely I agree with that. I think he's the best

1228
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: guy for that stuff, and I think we're the best

1229
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: guy for you know, the crap section.

1230
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 4: We give Tim a segment.

1231
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: You know, people throwing crap at each other.

1232
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: Very good at Hey, we throw crap.

1233
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 7: We have Bob Costas on where where everything our pants?

1234
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: It's good exactly.

1235
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, dude, Do I seem like

1236
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: somebody who can be told but not to say?

1237
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1238
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: Seriously, let me ask all you guys. We just did

1239
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: a poll of the filth. Who thinks I would take

1240
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: Kyla to that be? Like, yeah, yeah, for sure, I.

1241
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: Hear you on that One's absolutely We've we've.

1242
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: Known people and I don't want to point anybody out,

1243
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: but we've known in our time as just employees here.

1244
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: Tim's been here for twenty years, Derek's been here for four, uh,

1245
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: and I've been here for almost ten.

1246
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Like just there are are hosts who have been here

1247
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: in the past where like if somebody tells you, hey,

1248
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: don't have don't tell them not to ask a question

1249
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: about this, and you're like, well, if I tell them

1250
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: not to ask it, they're definitely going down. Yeah, absolutely

1251
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: if you I'm not that way, We're like, if you

1252
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: don't do that, I'm gonna do that. But I also

1253
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: like nobody says to it, you can't say certainly can't

1254
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: ask certain questions like we're fans, we're asking what fans

1255
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: want to know.

1256
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 7: For the most part, yeah, absolutely, Like and as a

1257
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 7: producer like that's you know, when you're told that you

1258
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 7: have to tell the hosts like, hey, don't ask about this.

1259
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: That usually leads it open to.

1260
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 7: Him being like, all right, well you know what you

1261
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 7: you're you're definitely you know you're you're you're pissed me off.

1262
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 7: Now where you told me not to say that, So

1263
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 7: now I'm definitely gonna needle that person.

1264
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: Though I would say in the entire time that I've

1265
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: worked here, we've probably been asked that question. You know, somebody,

1266
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 5: please don't say this not many times, and every time

1267
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 5: that you do, tell somebody like if you told the

1268
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: you know it, don't press but pressing that Park got

1269
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: to do it, and so you know, navigating that is one.

1270
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: The other thing I'd say is when somebody like our

1271
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 5: guy here nine two five is saying on the text

1272
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 5: Lineag's like, why don't you ask the tough questions about that.

1273
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: There's no answer that's going to satisfy it. He didn't

1274
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: say why don't you, he asked pretty kindly. It was

1275
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: just like, are you guys openly allowed to.

1276
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: Why I was using him as a crux, And I apologize,

1277
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: But there's no answer that's going to satisfy that fan

1278
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 5: who says, oh, why don't you spend enough?

1279
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1280
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure the ones to say that, But I mean

1281
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: it's a fair argument when other teams are and winning. Yeah,

1282
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. It's like, that's the fair argument.

1283
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: It's like, I do think there's a case for that.

1284
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: You're like, it's not like prices are going down to

1285
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: the yard charging me more. We want a bunch, but

1286
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: like we're not getting the same product seriously before so

1287
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: I think the fan who is the life blood of

1288
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: it is absolutely like if Fingers went poor and were terrible,

1289
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: and they were really bad, and you know, like they

1290
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: were in ninety two getting ready to move to their

1291
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: ninety three get ready to move to Saint Petersburg before

1292
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: ninety three, if all that happens, like that's because people

1293
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: want to move them, but also like you're not getting

1294
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: the revenue you'd like out of it. Revenue sharing has

1295
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: changed and there's a lot of money right now. Baseball's

1296
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: printing money. Like the league is doing well, they're succeeding.

1297
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: They've made this transition really really good for the life

1298
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: of the league itself. But if fans stopped going, they changed.

1299
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: You have to change the product unless you're doing it intentionally,

1300
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: like the A's fans stop going, You've got to figure

1301
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: out something else if you want to win. Rockies haven't

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Speaker 1: figured it out for lack of effort. Numerous teams have

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Speaker 1: not and just sort of I mean, the Pirates are

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Speaker 1: another one just sort of sit there in mediocrity, or

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Speaker 1: the White Socks have been trying to rebuild for a

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Speaker 1: decade plus like that happens. But in general, the Giants

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Speaker 1: are not a team that has done that. They've continued

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Speaker 1: to spend, but other teams have spent more and they've

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Speaker 1: won more and they've spent better and smarter. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 1: landed big talent, so itaway canbr four to five ITAA

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Speaker 1: five sixty two seven is the number to call and

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Speaker 1: the number to text if you want to get involved

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Speaker 1: in the conversation. At five thirty we got our crop

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Speaker 1: section coming up and award winning Diamondoes returns tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: Giants pregame for the first game of the season.

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Speaker 4: You ready, I'm well not yet. I did just get

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Speaker 4: the email about it.

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Speaker 6: I have the copy if you like to see it.

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Speaker 2: I have it.

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Speaker 6: What it printed it out, It's long here.

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Speaker 4: I've been hold on to it all right now, I

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Speaker 4: got it. We'll do it a five thirty.

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Speaker 1: No, I've been holding on to this because we won

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Speaker 1: an award award winning Diamondodes puts another pelt on the wall,

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Speaker 1: and we'll tell you about that coming up at five thirty,

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Speaker 1: But not before we give you some of the best

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Speaker 1: sounds from across the sports world you might have missed

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Speaker 1: in our sound soiree, featuring some Steve Kerr, some Casey Schmidt,

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Speaker 1: some Logan Web and some Kyle Shanahan. That's all coming

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Speaker 1: your way next Dirty Work on a Tuesday on These

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