1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: And we continue at what five in the afternoon on 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy wangs in Culver City. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: John, there was quite a brawl at Lax where a 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: drunk Australian man tried to beat up a TSA agent 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: because he thought he stole his bag. And it turns 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: out the bag was at the bar that he left 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: it at. Uh. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh boy. It's a rough time to be a TSA agent. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: They're not getting paid, they're getting beat up on the job. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: What's next? 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: telephone number one? Eight hundred two two two five two 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: two two. Well, the state of California made national news 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: not long ago for letting a violent sexual predator, voting 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: to let a violent sexual predator out of prison early 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: due to a state law that says that elderly inmates 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: should be released from prison if. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: The parole board v to do so. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly happened. What happened with one pervert and 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Randy They keep doing it. 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: The California Parole Board has decided to grant elder parole 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: to another absolute monster. And this is one of those 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: stories where it's really hard to hear what's being alleged here, 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: But you need to know the actions of somebody that 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 2: the California Parole Board said, yes, this person is deemed 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: to be safe to re enter society because they're over fifty. 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: I can only imagine what we're about to hear. For more. 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Here's ABC ten in Sacramento, and again, this one's kind 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: of hard to hear. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: And now the decision to release Seha has sparked outrage 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 3: from prosecutors and the victim's family. 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: ABC ten's Nazy Jov joins us now after talking with 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: the survivor and uncovering the sturbing new details from the 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: parole hearing nausey. This must come as a horrific shock. 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: How is she feeling about all this? 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who the parole board doesn't care about 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: at all, the victims of these crimes, of course. 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: And don't let Gavin fool you. Gavin will say I 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't do it. Don't blame me. Guess who appoints the 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: parole boards. 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 6: Truthfully, she was crying for most of our phone call. 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 6: And at the center of this case is that survivor. 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 6: She tells me she just found out about this today 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: and now She's being forced to relive everything all over again. 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 6: Her case is really highlighting a controversial part of California law, 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 6: which allows some inmates, including those convicted of sex crimes, 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 6: to be considered for early release based on age and 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 6: time serve. 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: And by the way, in case you want to buy that, 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom has nothing to do with this. Gavin Newsom 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: signed the bill in twenty twenty one lowering the age 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: for elder parole from sixty five to fifty and from 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: thirty years to twenty years. Thanks Gavin, the. 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 6: District attorney says, this case is different. It points to 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 6: years of horrific abuse and the lasting trauma left behind. 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 7: We have a man who was convicted of molesting his stepdaughter, 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 7: raping her violently for nearly a decade in the nineties 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 7: to the early two thousands. 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 6: A man sentenced to one hundred and thirty nine years 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 6: in prison now recommended for release. 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: I don't think he's served all one hundred and thirty nine. 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: Nope, a man sentenced to what's the point. 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: Of having these insane number sentences If they don't count. 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because the State of California will not 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: keep anyone in prison and this is why people say, oh, 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: the death penalty, that's the easy way out. Life in 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: prison is so much worse. Well, guess what, in this state, 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: there is no such thing as life in prison, So 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: don't kid yourself health. 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: A man sentenced to one hundred and thirty nine years 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 6: in prison now recommended for release. 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 7: His name was Israel Seha and the victim was a 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: little girl when he started to rape her. 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: A childhood taken over years of abuse. We spoke with 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 6: the survivor who just found out the parole board recommended 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 6: her rapist for early release under the elderly parole law. 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 5: That I'd have to see him begin, you know, he 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: may walk around with make kids we tolu about, She says. 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 6: The abuse. 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: Seriously, who is on this parole board. 82 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: They're just doing what Gavin told them to do. Don't forget. 83 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: This is a George Floyd thing where they believe that 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: the prisons are violent, so we need to let everyone 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: out of prison. And what's crazy is they did this 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: out of quote unquote equity because they think that the 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: prisons are racist and they think that this is about 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: releasing more black people from prison. Well, guess what, these 89 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: people aren't even black, and that is the motivation for 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: them to pass this legislation in the first place, some 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: sort of weird bastardization. 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: Of what equity looks like. 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: They're trying to be color blind, or they're trying to 94 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: right past wrongs, whatever the case may be. But what 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: they're doing is they're letting people out of prison who 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: have demonstrated that they cannot live in polite society, they 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: cannot play by the rules. And these people are being 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: put back out into the communities so that this woman 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: now has to spend the rest of her life looking 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: over her shoulder. 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: She says the abuse started when she was just a child, 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 6: continuing for years inside her home. It's rokay, I feel 103 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 6: like I'm Loukaion. 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 8: It's not. 105 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: And I just thought it would get overe everything that 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: was going to be okay, I have to relave it 107 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: all over again. 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: The DA says at least some of the incidents happened 109 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 6: on this backcountry road at home where the family lived 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 6: back in nineteen ninety nine here in Winters. 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: On one occasion, he tried to Okay, let me just 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: warn you once again, some of these details are really 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: difficult to process, but it's important because this is who 114 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, through his parole board, is letting out. 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 7: On one occasion, he tried to push her out of 116 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 7: a truck to cause injury. On another occasion, he pointed 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 7: a gun at her and he pulled the trigger and 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 7: the gun either misfired or was empty. 119 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 6: The crimes were discovered in nineteen ninety nine when she 120 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 6: collapsed in public and was taken to the hospital. She 121 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 6: was pregnant. DNA confirmed Israel Seha was the father. 122 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 7: This little girl was impregnated by this monster. 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: It started when I was nine, and I got pregnant 124 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 6: by him when I was fifteen. Prosecutor Save. The abuse escalated, 125 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 6: including attempts to force a miss carriage. You actually maybe 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 6: jump off the roof of the house. 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: He took me to. 128 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 6: I guess like a witch doctor or something, and she 129 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 6: tried to massage a got of me. 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: He was just trying to get rid of it, and 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: really weird. Seriously, who in their right mind would say 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: that this person should be free? 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Okay, this is why I'm never doing jury duty again. 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: When I sat on jury duty for that full month, 135 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: what you're hearing now is a PG version of what 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: we had to sit through. For a full month and 137 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: they go through it in all of the glory details, 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. That was the worst 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: month of my life. 140 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: And really we're kind of, you know, maybe meddleingers. 141 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 6: And in two thousand he was sentenced over a century 142 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 6: in prison. Prosecutors say they believed he would never get out, 143 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: but now the das as the State Parole Board, has 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 6: recommended his release, saying he met the qualifications for elderly parole. 145 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: Good lord, the DA says one commission. 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: And the qualifications are you've served twenty years and you're 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: over fifty, because you know how when you're fifty, you're elderly. 148 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: You know what's funny to go back to the trial 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: when I was on the jury, the defendant in that 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: case was ninety years of age. If your brain is 151 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: wired to be attracted to children, and that violent sex 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: with children is something that turns you on, it doesn't 153 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: matter how old you are. That doesn't go away Until 154 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: we can figure out how to reprogram these people's brains. 155 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to change them. So what you have 156 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: to do is you have to separate them from society 157 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: so they can't hurt other people. That's what prison is for, 158 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: and that's what the judge decided, and that's what the 159 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: jury decided. The fact that we're not going to respect 160 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: the sentence and the verdict that the judge and the 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: jury came down with after sitting through what I'm sure 162 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: was a horrific month of testimony, and they came to 163 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: this conclusion, you're going to let this person out who 164 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: is almost certainly a threat to society, so that this 165 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: now has the chance to happen again is beyond my 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: ability to comprehend. 167 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 6: The DA says. One commissioner, Neil Schneider, called him an 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 6: excellent citizen. 169 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: This is what they think. 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: This is not something that slipped through the cracks, by 171 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: the way, this is what Gavin Newsom and company believe. 172 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: This is not an accident, This is not a one off. 173 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: This is what they think. 174 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: And the DA tells me that he made some disturbing 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 6: comments in that hearing. They said that he admitted to 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: having thoughts still of little girl, and when asked how 177 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: he would handle those, he said that he would pray. 178 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 6: Thede says, that's just unacceptable. He's submitting a letter to 179 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 6: Governor k Newsom urging him to take action and have 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 6: the decision recommending parole for this convicted child rapist reviewed 181 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: and reversed. I did reach out to the Governor's office 182 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: and parole board. The Governor's office did just get back 183 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: to me. They say they have not received it for 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 6: review yet and they cannot comment on pending cases. 185 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: Back to you, my goodness, Nasi. And we should point 186 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: out as well that according to state law, all reviews 187 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: must be done within one hundred and twenty days from 188 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: the hearing, or May twenty ninth. His actual release date 189 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: is unknown, but he's currently being held at San Quin's 190 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: State Prison. 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 5: Stay with us for updates. 192 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: So there you go, another absolute monster that should be 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: spending the rest of his life in prison getting out 194 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: because of elder parole in California. 195 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: But the people in California hate Trump and that's how 196 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: they voted in the gubernatorial election. 197 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: So this is what we have. 198 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Nothing is going to change until you start voting differently. 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: And I just don't understand how people go out and 200 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: vote for this guy and then they complain about something 201 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: like this. 202 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: He's not the problem. 203 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: You're the problem because you voted for him knowing that 204 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: this is how he sees the world. He regards criminals 205 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: as a protected class, which means his judges, the Attorney 206 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: General who he appointed, his parole boards, and everyone in 207 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the system sees it that way too. So don't act 208 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: surprised when they act on their beliefs. That's what they think. 209 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: You knew that when you voted for him, not this audience, 210 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: but the people of California. And now this monster is 211 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: coming to a community near you. Lock your doors. 212 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: Now. 213 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: There is movement in the legislature to try to repeal 214 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: this monster. 215 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Today. They want to change this law because well, it 216 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: doesn't make anybody look good in an election year, or maybe, 217 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: just maybe some of the electeds in Sacramento have a conscience. 218 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: For more on the possible changes to the elder parole 219 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: law that, by the way, Newsom was just asked about 220 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: and he said he does support. Here is Fox forty 221 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: in Sacramento. We need change. 222 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 8: That's what Assembly Member Stephanie Wynn is calling for in 223 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 8: California's elderly parole program. As a stance today, the program 224 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 8: allows prisoners fifty years or older who've served at least 225 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 8: twenty years of their sentence to apply for early release 226 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 8: from state prison. 227 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 9: We need to do a better job at putting standards 228 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 9: on this program. 229 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 8: Win, a Democrat from the Sacramento area, says the issue 230 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 8: is especially urgent following a recent decision by the state 231 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 8: boarder Parole Hearings to grant elderly release for sixty four 232 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 8: year old David Funston. He was sentenced in nineteen ninety 233 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: nine to three consecutive life terms for kidnapping and sexually 234 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 8: assaulting seven young children. 235 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: Hey, rather, this law has been on the book since 236 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. That's when it was expanded to fifty 237 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: years old. It's because this case was so outrageous that 238 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: people started paying attention to this. How many of these 239 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: predators have been released over the last four years. Well, 240 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: think about it. 241 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: It has to be something truly, truly, truly eye popping 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: to make the news. Because you think about the war 243 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: and iron, You've got the heat wave coming to town, 244 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: You've got March madness on the horizon. 245 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of noise in the world. 246 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: For something like this to pop into the papers, it 247 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: has to take something extraordinary, which means I think you're 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: probably right, Randy. It's happened many, many, many, many, many times, 249 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: but just not in a way that can force its 250 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: way on the front page of the newspaper. 251 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 8: He was sentenced in nineteen ninety nine to three consecutive 252 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 8: life terms for kidnapping and sexually assaulting seven young children. 253 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 8: Governor Gavin Knwsom disagreed with the Parole Board's decision, but 254 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 8: the board ultimately move forward with it, saying Fundston no 255 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 8: longer posed what it called an unreasonable risk to public 256 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 8: safety upon his scheduled release, though last month, Fundstan was 257 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 8: transferred back into custody in Plaster County to face new 258 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 8: charges in a separate child sex assault case dating back 259 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 8: to the nineteen nineties. 260 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an interesting one where the day he 261 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: was getting out, because this guy committed a hell of 262 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: a lot more crimes that were never ever adjudicated, Plaster 263 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: County who decided not to file charges for a case 264 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: they had against him because they thought, oh, he's going 265 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: away for life. They realized they were still within the 266 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: statutal limitations and they refiled the case from the nineties 267 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: And that's why that monster is still behind bars. 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: But this is a fluke where some Republican sheriff can 269 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: come save the day. That's not always the case with 270 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: these guys. 271 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 8: And lawmaker say he's not the only case they're concerned about. 272 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 8: The board on Wednesday will consider parole for fifty seven 273 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 8: year old Gregory Vogelslang, sentenced to three hundred and fifty 274 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 8: years from arresting multiple young boys in the nineteen nineties. 275 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: Twenty years of a three hundred and fifty year sentence, 276 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: that sounds great. 277 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if they realize how ridiculous this looks. I 278 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: realize here in the insane asylum, the people that voted 279 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: for them are just, I guess, looking at this as 280 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: business as usual. But if someone's visiting this state from 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Florida or Iowa or Japan or someplace like that, and 282 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: they hear this, they think we're all on drugs. 283 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 9: I can't believe that we would allow somebody like that 284 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 9: to be re released out in the community. 285 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 10: Again, admitting that you're still attracted to children is not 286 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 10: enough to deny parole. 287 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 11: Then what is now? 288 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 8: Winn hopes to bring change to the elderly parole program 289 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 8: with her new bill, ABE twenty seven to twenty seven. 290 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 8: If signed, it would raise the elderly parole eligibility age 291 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 8: from fifty to seventy five before someone can even be 292 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 8: considered for early release. 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: At all because seventy five is actually elderly. 294 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 8: The proposal would also increase the minimum time served to 295 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 8: thirty years and require them to undergo a screening by 296 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 8: the Department of State Hospitals on top of that. 297 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: So what half of this bill is is just undoing 298 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: the damage that the legislature and Gavin did by reducing 299 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: these thresholds in twenty twenty one. 300 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is one of the most destructive things that's 301 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: ever happened in the state of California. It's going to 302 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: take us decades to undo the damage that he has. 303 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 8: Done and require them to undergo a screening by the 304 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 8: Department of State Hospitals. On top of that, the bill 305 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 8: would completely bar anyone convicted of the most serious sexual 306 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 8: offenses from qualifying for elderly parole at all. Those offenses 307 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 8: include aggravated sexual assault of a child and certain sex 308 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 8: crimes involving victims ten years old or younger. 309 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 9: We need to ensure that something passes to protect our communities. 310 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: Now. 311 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 8: The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation said they want 312 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 8: to make a few things clear here in a statement. 313 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 8: They said, in part quote commissioners for the Board of 314 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 8: Parole hearings take many factors into consideration when determining a 315 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 8: candidate's release suitability. 316 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: This really whenever they say, oh, it's really complicated, most 317 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: things in this world are not really complicated. 318 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: Most things are really easy to understand. 319 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: And if you are saying that something like this is complicated, 320 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is you're trying to defend 321 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: the indefensible. 322 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 8: This includes the comprehensive risk assessment, the candidate's central file plans, 323 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 8: and impact statements at the state Capitol. Covering local news 324 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: that matters a Tom Wallace, Fox forty News. 325 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: So this is one where we can't ignore it. We 326 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: have to pay attention to it. And as this thing 327 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: goes through the legislature, it's important to have your voice 328 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: head that your local member in the Assembly, in the 329 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: state Senate passes this and it gets to Gavin's desk, 330 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: because we have to. Now that people are paying attention, 331 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: maybe we can undo this damage. But this is maybe 332 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: the worst law ever passed in the state of California, 333 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: and that's saying something. 334 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Now, Gavin Newsom is running for president, and the conventional 335 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: wisdom is that he's going to get there because women 336 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: are going to vote for him. Women think he's attractive, 337 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: women think that he's slick, women think that he's smart. 338 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: How any woman could vote for him after he did 339 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: all this is crazy. 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Randy. 370 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: There are those in Sacramento who are also looking to 371 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: change the mental health diversion. So here's another bizarre loophole 372 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: that is letting people back out onto the streets, and 373 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: that is a law passed a couple of years ago 374 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: called the California Mental Health Diversion Law, where if you 375 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: self attest that you are suffering from any mental illness, 376 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: including things as depression or ADHD, with out even a 377 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: judge making the decision, you can qualify for instead of 378 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: going to prison, going to mental health treatment. And it 379 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: qualifies for all kinds of violent crimes, oh mine. So 380 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: there's been a push for two years now to change this. 381 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: This is something that Secondmenter Sarah Jim Cooper has been 382 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: trying to get people to pay attention to. It didn't 383 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: make it out of committee last year. It just passed 384 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: a crucial committee this year. But this is yet another 385 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: law that was in the name of criminal justice reform 386 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: that is being exploited that we need to fix. For 387 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: more on the mental health diversion law and efforts to 388 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: change that one, Here's CASERA. 389 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 12: A bill aimed at titan California's mental health diversion program 390 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 12: is taking a major step forward. Case Hearing three's Jason 391 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 12: Marx is here now to explain what this bill does 392 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 12: and how it pertains to mental health. 393 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: With area judges, district attorneys, and also law enforcement, and 394 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: everyone agrees that something needs to be done to sort 395 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 5: tighten the levers here on mental health diversion, and today 396 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: that process is taking a big step with AB forty six. 397 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 5: Mental Health Diversion is a program signed into law in 398 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. And what it does it allows some who 399 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: have committed crimes with mental health issues to get treatment 400 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 5: instead of going to jail, and. 401 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: You can say whatever the mental health issue is and 402 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: you don't have any you don't need to have any 403 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: documentation to prove it. And public defenders up and down 404 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: the state know this and are using it all the time. 405 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's like what happened in San Francisco when you 406 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: had people who were here illegally who were accused of crimes, 407 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: and they would all say that they were being persecuted 408 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: in their country of origin and they can't go back. Well, specifically, 409 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: what the drug dealers from Honduras would say when they 410 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: were put on trial by Brooke Jenkins, the district attorney, 411 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: is they're victims of human trafficking. And for a long 412 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: time that was working. 413 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And what it. 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: Does it allows some who have committed crimes with mental 415 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: health issues to get treatment instead of going to jail. 416 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 5: Supporters of ABE forty six say they agree with the 417 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 5: goal of diversion, but they also believe there are people 418 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: taking advantage of it simply to avoid staying behind bars. 419 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: They're also citing high profile. 420 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Key Also, shouldn't there have to be I don't know 421 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: some kind of connection how your mental illness caused you 422 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: to bump off of seven to eleven. 423 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: What this is is this is just another tool to 424 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: get them out of prison early. They don't want anyone 425 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: locked up, and they're looking for any excuse to let 426 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: them out early. 427 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh they have a mental illness. Oh they're elderly. Oh 428 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: it's this, Oh it's that. 429 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: Let's just create a long list of excuses so that 430 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: the parole board has some to hang their decision on 431 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: and say, oh, we had to let him out because 432 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: they were mentally ill, we had to let him out 433 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: because they. 434 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: They're too old whatever. Well, and this goes even further 435 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: than that, because the diversion means you don't even go 436 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: to prison in lieu of prison. You go to this 437 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: program and there's no sentence. You just have to complete 438 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: the treatment, and usually it's outpatient, and usually they're not 439 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: even following up on you. 440 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: They're also citing high profile cases in which criminals reoffended 441 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 5: after they were released on diversion. One judge we talk 442 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 5: with says he feels like his hands are tied and says, 443 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: the way that the law is worded, it makes it 444 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 5: difficult to deny someone the program once they requested. 445 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: That's right, you self attest to this. The judge doesn't 446 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: even have a say if you qualify for this or 447 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: not because of the way this law was written. 448 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's unbelievable that this is allowed to happen. 449 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: It makes the entire criminal justice system a complete joke. 450 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: In California, it is. 451 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: ABE forty six was introduced by Assembly Member Stephanie to 452 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: Win in twenty twenty four. It would give judges more 453 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: discretion when handing out mental health diversion. 454 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: By the way, this Stephanie wins. She's also the one 455 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: trying to revise alta parole. She's great. If only we 456 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: could get the rest of the legislature to go with 457 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: the common sense on these issues and realize that the 458 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: public is not with them on this. You need to 459 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: get to a majority. Well, and you remember what happened 460 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: though this was important last year. Another Democrat, Maggie Crell, 461 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: who was a former prosecutor in Sacramento. She's the one 462 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: that put forth the bill to make it a felony 463 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: to purchase a child for the purposes of sex. And 464 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't already a felony thanks to California laws, and 465 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: that one was about to get killed in committee until 466 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: people started paying attention. People started sharing the story on 467 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: social media, they started calling their elected representatives, and it 468 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: went for being killed in committee to becoming law because 469 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: they realized that the public was not with them on that. 470 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: But she created a lot of enemies in the process, 471 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: a lot of enemies in the legislature. They were eventually 472 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: shamed into moving forward with it, but they didn't want 473 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: to do it, and believe me, the knives are out 474 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: for her. 475 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: It would give judges more discretion when handing out mental 476 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: health diversion. That bill was heard today by the Senate 477 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 5: Public Safety Committee. At the hearing, the Public Defenders Association 478 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: spoke against AB forty six, saying it. 479 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Was of course they did, because that's what they do. 480 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Have you seen what's going on with the public defender 481 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He claims he's so overwhelmed that he's 482 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: just not going to take cases. And you know what 483 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: happens when a public defender says we're not going to 484 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: take cases. The cases just get dismissed. Oh no, it's 485 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: been a complete nightmare. And at this point we're all 486 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: sure it's a tactic that the public defender just wants 487 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: people to get out, and this is the technicality, saying 488 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: this is why, and we have to remind people this 489 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: every election year. You don't know a lot about the 490 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: people running for judge, but if it says on their 491 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: ballot designation that they are a public defender, you don't 492 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: want them as a judge run for the hills. 493 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: Saying it would be a step backward for criminal justice. 494 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: In the end, AB forty six got out of the 495 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 5: committee with a unanimous vote. 496 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: I'm telling you the temperature has changed on some of 497 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: these issues because people pay attention. 498 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Situationally, yes, but unless everyone's paying attention to it and 499 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: collectively outraged, the bad stuff still gets through. 500 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 9: I want to be clear that we are not in 501 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 9: any way eliminating. 502 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: The program what we should. But okay, see this is 503 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: also what they have to do. Even if they. 504 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: Move the ball forward, they still have to pay lip 505 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: service to the bad policy. 506 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 9: What we're strictly, what we're doing is strictly just putting 507 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 9: guardrails around it so that it is clear that if 508 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 9: a judge bills that the individual poses a public safety threat, 509 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 9: that the judge has the opportunity to deny the mental 510 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 9: health day version. 511 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: Program, which is something unless you're you know, the crazy 512 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: judges in San Francisco who let everybody out, and there's 513 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: a lot of them. 514 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 5: So Aby forty six cleared a major hurdle getting out 515 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 5: of the Public Safety Committee. Assembly Member to Win is 516 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: pretty confident that soon Gavin Newsom will have this bill 517 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: in front of him to sign. That's the latest here 518 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 5: in Sacramento. Jason Marks, in case you're a three. 519 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 12: News Well people against changing the law prefer treatment over 520 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 12: jail time, saying it can be very effective. The bill 521 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 12: now moves to the Senate Appropriations Committee. 522 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: There are there's so many examples of this law being 523 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: used in the last few years, and Jim Cooper has 524 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: pointed out a lot of these where somebody commits a 525 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: horrific crime, blames it on their ADHD, doesn't go to prison, 526 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: and then they reoffend. Yet we call this program a success. No, 527 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: it's a rigged system. It's a rigged game, and the 528 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: game is rigged to benefit the criminals. Let's go to 529 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: Lisa in San Jose. Lisa, Hello, Hello, hi there, Hi. 530 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 13: I was about Gavin Newsom. Yes, yes, he makes me 531 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 13: want to throw up in my mouth. 532 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: Actually I did, I'm sorry. 533 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, any woman that votes for him based on his looks. 534 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 13: That makes men think we're stupid, because voting for someone 535 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 13: based on their looks shows that you're unintelligent. 536 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how anyone could look at his record 537 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: and think to themselves, Oh, yeah, he's going to be 538 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: good for women, letting all these sex offenders out of 539 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: prison early. You think that's good for women or children? 540 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: These people have lost their minds. 541 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 13: No, it's not. He can have them for neighbors or 542 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 13: let him let them watch his kids. 543 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: All right, thank you for the call. Let's go to 544 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: John and Long Beach. 545 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 14: John, Welcome, gentlemen, good afternoon. I think that if anyone 546 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 14: realistically was half a brain looked at Gavin Newsom's record, 547 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 14: how in the world could they vote for him. But 548 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 14: you know, obviously there's a lot of people who don't 549 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 14: think about what they're voting for. They just think about 550 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 14: what someone looks like. And I had told this on 551 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 14: your before. 552 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 11: I had a friend who went to college with him, 553 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 11: and she told me, and I still am friends with her. 554 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 11: She told me that he was exactly like he is 555 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 11: now in college, and all he talked about was political 556 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 11: office and someday he wanted to be president of the 557 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 11: United States, and he was always the pretty boy like 558 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 11: he is. So you know, if anybody votes for him, uh, 559 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 11: they got to be they got to be drinking some 560 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 11: kind of kool aid that I don't want. 561 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: I can tell you that much. 562 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call. Eight hundred two 563 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: two two five two two two is telephone number one. 564 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Eight 565 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two is telephone 566 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. 567 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt, candidate for mayor in Los Angeles, joins is 568 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow and he is pulling second in recent public polls 569 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: and the race for mayor of Los Angeles just the 570 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: incumbent Karen Bass, who's sitting at twenty percent, which is 571 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: pathetic for any incumbent running for reelection. Karen Bass knows 572 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: the heat is on, so now she's trying to clear 573 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: out homeless encampments to show that her project Inside Safe 574 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: is working. 575 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: John, What did we say about promoting Spencer Pratt bang 576 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: on the kiss of death. Yes, every time you say 577 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: someone's coming on, they cancel. So just remember that if 578 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: that happens, so fault. When Karen Bass ran and won 579 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: the la Mayor's job. In twenty twenty two, she promoted 580 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: something called Project Insight Safe, where she would work to 581 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: dismantle encampments and move everyone into motels. And what she 582 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: said at the time is, we will make sure these 583 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: encampments never come back. Well, an encampment that she cleared 584 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: in Venice is back. Surprise, surprise. For more, here's ABC 585 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: seven Eyewitness News. 586 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 10: Some Venice residents are voicing their frustration after a homeless 587 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 10: encampment cleared by Mayor Karen Bass's Inside Safe program has returned. 588 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 10: This one is located at Rose Avenue and Hampton Drive. 589 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 10: Eyewitness sues supporter. 590 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's one of the old Bonnen encampments going 591 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: way back. 592 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 10: This one is located at Rose Avenue and Hampton Drive. 593 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 10: Eyewitness new supporter Josh Haskell explaining what the mayor plans 594 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 10: to do now. 595 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 15: Over three years ago, ABC seven was in Venice when 596 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 15: one of the most notorious homeless encampments was cleared by 597 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 15: Mayor Karen Bass and Councilwoman Tracy Park the city's second 598 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 15: Inside Safe operation. The encampment was located on Hampton Drive 599 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 15: between Sunset Avenue and Rose Avenue. Residents and businesses applauded 600 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 15: the action and continued outreach that housed over one hundred people. 601 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 15: But the encampment is now back. 602 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: We need to not I'm shocked. 603 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: It's almost as Yeah, if they don't want to be 604 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: in the motel rooms, they want to be on the streets, 605 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: in the encampments where all the drugs in fun are. 606 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 12: We need to not have to keep having a land 607 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 12: war like every few months in the same place. 608 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: Once we win it, we should win it. The law 609 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 5: is not enforced. It goes and it comes. I wish 610 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 5: it was a stick, it would make it easier for 611 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: the PIDI. 612 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 15: We visited the encampment and witnessed it being cleaned, outreach 613 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 15: taking place, but instead of those living at the encampment 614 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 15: excepting shelter, we saw the opposite. In just a few hours, 615 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 15: crews cleared the encampment that was here on Rose in Hampton, 616 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 15: near Main Street. But those who were living at this 617 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 15: encampment tell us that they just moved around the corner 618 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 15: and once the crews leave, they planned to return. 619 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: They're sticking their claims. Talk about a game of whack 620 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: a mole. Do you want to get off the street? Yeah, 621 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: we're right every I don't want a stereotype, but every 622 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: single time, whether it's in Oakland or Lost Angelus, the 623 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 2: local news interview. As a person living in these encampments, 624 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: you can hear the meth in their voice. 625 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 15: Do you want to get off the street? 626 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 16: Yeah, we're trying. 627 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: So where are you going to set up your ten? 628 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: And where a you're going to sleep tonight? 629 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 16: Right back where I was until I get housing. 630 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: Every single time, like clockwork. 631 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 16: Because I'm not running away, there's nothing to hopen. 632 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: Was the state really worse off when we used to 633 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: put meth heads in jail? 634 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 14: Oh? 635 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: That was much better. That was much better. 636 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: If we could snap our fingers and go back to that, 637 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: we would do it in a heartbeat. The problem is 638 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: we're not putting anyone in jail now. 639 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 16: Because I'm not running away. 640 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 5: There's nothing to hide. 641 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: What are they doing exactly? 642 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 16: Making our lives a lot harder Because the reason my 643 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 16: bag gets stolen is because of a. 644 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: Cleanup crew my back That doesn't sound paranoid at all. Nope. 645 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 16: My backpack, everything in it, my ideas, my birth certificate, 646 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 16: everything was stolen. 647 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 5: So I can't make it anywhere. 648 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 16: Because everyone wants an id. 649 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: For a job. 650 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's the backpack that's pindering you from 651 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: getting a job, lady, No, I think it's the math. 652 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 15: According to Countcslwomen Parks Office, those who live at this 653 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 15: encampment have picked an area that's in between two forty 654 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 15: one eighteen. 655 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: Zones, so that is legalize for the breaucracy is real? 656 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: Come on, Tracy, you know better. 657 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 15: According to counts A Woman Parks Office, those who live 658 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 15: at this encampment have picked an area that's in between 659 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 15: two forty one eighteen zones areas where encampments are prohibited. 660 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 15: And a statement Mayor basses off. 661 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Karen Bass said no one's ever coming back, 662 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: and that was bs. 663 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: They're always coming back until you put them in an 664 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: institution or until you put them in jail. They're going 665 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: right back to the encampment. 666 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 15: Statement Mayor Bass's office set in part, we have known 667 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 15: this is an extremely attractive area for encampments, but we 668 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 15: will not be deterred. 669 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: Also the encampment and why are you allowing it? Because 670 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: inside safe doesn't work. 671 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 15: Also, the encampment surrounds a currently vacant building, the historic 672 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 15: Rose Restaurant, which has been in Venice for over forty years, 673 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 15: and a statement the company that operates the Rose Sprout 674 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 15: LA set in part, we have been repeatedly vandalized, that's equity, 675 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 15: burglarized and harassed. Despite all this, we believe in the 676 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 15: strength of this community and are committed to an eventual reopening. 677 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: I figure, yes, when there's a new mayor, it's really 678 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: amazing that she's even running for reelection with as bad 679 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: of a job as she has done. Wouldn't you just say, Okay, 680 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: I don't have the skill set for this, I'm going 681 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: to do something else with my time. 682 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: Well, and this is news for the Bay Area. As 683 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: dumb as you think California voters are, LA voters might 684 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: be the dumbest