1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: And we continue at two oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: on the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wiggs in Culver City, John. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Residents of the Soma neighborhood in San Francisco are asking 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: for something they call geographic equity. They don't like that 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: all the homeless are concentrated in their neighborhood, and so 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: they want them spread out among all the good neighborhoods. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Hey, it worked with the illegal aliens, didn't it. As 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: soon as the governor of Texas started putting them on 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the buses. That's when they got the nation's attention. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: So watch out, sunset, watch out the Golden Gate Park area. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Some is going to be sending the homeless to you. 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: a telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: two two two. I have the Angel game on in 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the background because I'm curious to see if there's going 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: to be another brawl today. And I don't know how 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: the Umpires Union ever allowed Major League Baseball to bring 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: AI in to determine whether or not a called ball 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: or strike was the correct call or not, or if 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: you call someone safer out, if that was correct because 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: they get overturned all day long. Imagine if you can 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: do that in any other aspect of life. You bring 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: some contractor over at your house. You want to know 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: how much it's going to cost to remodel your kitchen. 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: They go, it's going to be one hundred and twenty 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and take four months. And you go, hmm, 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem right. Let's go to the AI. Oh 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: it's going to take two years and cost triple that, 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to see them and not be 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: able to collect. 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: April must be the most exciting time for an Angel 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: fan because you haven't been disappointed yet. 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh, give it time. Remember when mo Vaughn fell down 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a flight of stairs. That was interesting? All right, It 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: He is a reporter for Fox eleven. You can follow 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: him on x at Matt Seedorf. Matthew Seedorf, welcome, Hey. 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me a episode. Guys, appreciate the time 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: and have me on. 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for coming on. And you do 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: fantastic work over at Fox eleven. And your work has 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: not only gained a lot of attention locally here in 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: the state of California, but it has gone all over 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the place because you and your camera crews have been 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: canvassing the city of Los Angeles trying to find out 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: just exactly where homeless people are. We know they're in 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: the encampments, we know, you know, if they're under an 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: overpass or whatever the case may be. But you've been 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: finding some very unique places where homeless people are now 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: calling home. 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate viewers reaching out and sending me tips, 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: especially on social media and Instagram. But yeah, just about 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: two weeks ago, we found a woman that was living 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: in a storm drain and the conditions there were so unimaginable. 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: I mean, think of the worst smell you've ever experienced. 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: And I was gritting my teeth the whole time, just 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: trying to keep it together together, and a one going 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: to it hits you in the back of the throat 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: and had to step away. But the fact that someone 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: was living in that condition is just unspeakable. And my 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: photographer that day, his name is He's been in this 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: market for decades and he was so angry that it's 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: gotten to this point where there's people living in the 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: sewer system that he was shaken up, and I've never 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: seen him like that, And and that says a lot 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: because of all the things that we've seen experience, and 67 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: and since since that day, we've been in contact with 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: that woman's family and she's said, and they say, her 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: sister or your mom, that they've been trying to get 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: help for this woman, and through the courts and everything 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: mental health, she doesn't want it and she's not getting 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: the help. And unfortunately, that's just something that we're seeing, 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: not just from this one instance, but just across the city, 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: these people that are just refusing any sort of help 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: and sort of treatment. 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: When you would go down into the sewer, and you 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: mentioned how foul the smell was. We've all been on 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: airplanes when there's been a foul loader, if someone throws up, 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: or they're eating some food that's disgusting, whatever the case 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: may be. You're in a confined space and there's a 81 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: really unpleasant odor that you can't escape from. I would 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: imagine that if you were in that environment for any 83 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: length of time, at a certain point, you'd start to 84 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: get headaches, you'd start to feel ill yourself. Did you, 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: guys ever get sick? 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: I was very close honestly, like I had to step away, 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: and I remember they declared it a hot zone. So 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: the city sanitation came in that evening and basically we 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: weren't allowed within one hundred yards. This is twenty four 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: hours later, and you're thinking there was someone riving in there, 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: and now it's so bad that we have to be 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: one hundred yards back. But there using these hoses and 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: vacuums and sucking it all up, and there was this 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: cloud of debris in the air, and everyone was wearing 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: a ninety five mask, and I'm just thinking, Wow, it's 96 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: unbelievable that someone was so desperate or so mentally ill, 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: or you know, on so much substance abuse issues that 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: they are forced in the living in the storm drain 99 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: and they think that it's okay. 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: And do you think about how that would play in 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: any other aspect of life, where I'm sure you could 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: find any number of people who would say, if you 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: are a smoker and you have your kids in the 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: car and you smoke and the windows are rolled up, 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: that's child abuse because you're subjecting your kids and everyone 106 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: in the car to cigarette smoke without any ability for 107 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: the smoke to escape the car. And I would imagine 108 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: that this is that on steroids. 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it impacts them and everyone around them. 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: So I mean this is not this is just one 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: homeless and Cammon and there were multiple people living in 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: this particular sewer, but the surrounding community there were people 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: living in tents and RVs and boats and uh, you know, 114 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: residents had felt like this area is bad, and they 115 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: felt like they'd voiced their concerns to council members in 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: the city three one one, and nothing was being done, 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: and it just felt like they had given up. 118 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: It seems like that, it seems like when we listen 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: to your reports and we hear you talk to the 120 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: man on the street, we hear you talk to the 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: people who live in the neighborhood, that there's a defeat. 122 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Is sort of attitude where it's like, Okay, we've gone 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: through the chain of command, we've done everything that we're 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: supposed to do. We call three one one, we call 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: our council member, we talk about it with our neighbors, 126 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: everything that you're supposed to do. If you have some 127 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of human suffering going on in your neighborhood and 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: it's like they just keep hitting brickwall after brickwall after brickwall, 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: and it's the local news or nothing. 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so sad because we'll speak with neighbors and 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: they'll be like, well South LA and like that's their 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 3: excuse for it being bad, or yeah it's MacArthur Park, 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: or yeah it skid row. Why are we accepting this 134 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: as the normal? I know that it's been going on 135 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: for some time, and sometimes I'll get messages of like, 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: why is this news? This is something that's been an 137 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: issue for a long time. Well, why are we accepting 138 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: it as? You know? This is not okay? So why 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: are we allowing this to just continue? 140 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you investigated the story of the woman 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: who lived in the sewer. You talk to people who 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: knew her, you talk to family members. What do we 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: know about her as an individual in terms of how 144 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: she got there? 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamimil Robinson is her name. She's a mother with 146 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: three kids. Her sister kind of said that she got 147 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: into some relationships with some bad people and then that 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: led to drug abuse and since then, I guess she 149 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: ended up living on the streets. And they've tried getting 150 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: her help and resources, and I guess through the courts 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: it's been struck down so far, and they've actually been 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: going out there looking for her, still trying to find 153 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: her since that last report, and they've been unable to. 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: But I think it speaks to the issue of mental 155 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: health and something that we see across the city is 156 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot of homeless people refusing services when they're offered 157 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: to them. So, you know, if a lot of if 158 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: the majority of the homeless in la are saying no 159 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: to help, then how do you get those people help? 160 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: If the current system is not allowing to just you know, 161 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: force treatment. 162 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, it seems like an indictment of the system because 163 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you have people in the community who recognize what was 164 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: going on and they tried to do what they could 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: do to find some degree of help for this person. 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: You have the family members of the individual who went 167 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: to the courts and did what they were supposed to do, 168 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: and they had door after doors slammed in their face 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: and they weren't able to help the person. And I 170 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: guess the courts in the state of California and the 171 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: city and the county and everyone involved said, well, it's 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: up to the person to reach out for help, or 173 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: it's up to the person to do something proactive. But 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: the problem is when you're dealing with mental illness, it's 175 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: not like you go to a doctor and the doctor goes, Okay, 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: you have a broken leg and we need to put 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: you in a cast, and then we can write on 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: un or do whatever, and then you can have the 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: cast take it off after a certain period of time. 180 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: With mental illness, you're sick and you don't know it. 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: You think you're fine, and you think that the world 182 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: around you they have the problem. And if there's no 183 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: mechanism to treat someone who doesn't even know that they 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: have a sickness, then they're just going to end up 185 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: in the storm drain, or they're going to end up 186 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: in the RV, or they're going to end up in 187 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the encampment. And that is the destiny that the state 188 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: is giving to them. 189 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like there needs to be a better way. 190 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: Whenever one around you is saying that you have a problem, 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: you have an issue, they're telling doctors and this and that, 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: and you're saying you don't and then you're living in 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: the sewer. I mean, I think most people would argue 194 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: that that's a clear sign of mental health, is if 195 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: you're living in a sewer and accepting that. We did 196 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: another report last week along the La River where we're 197 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: exposing homeless and camics and issues with drugs and gang 198 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: activity in that area, and then three days later we're 199 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: back out there covering someone that died from an overdose. 200 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, we keep ignoring these problems, 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: and every day across La six or seven people are 202 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: dying relating to homelessness. 203 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Well, and that's so dangerous in particular to allow homeless 204 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: people to live in a river, because if there's a 205 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: storm and you have a lot of water, you have 206 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot of rain that comes down into those rivers 207 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: and people are there, they're going to get washed away 208 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: and that's the end of them. That is extremely dangerous. 209 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's interesting is just we cover 210 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: that every time it rains, right, there's always someone that 211 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: gets washed away and the city fire departments trying to 212 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: save them. But when we were out there covering that 213 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: original story on Monday along the La River, there was 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: one resident that was mad that we were out there 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: and mad that we were talking about the homeless, and 216 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: when we brought it up, talk away and didn't want 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: to be part of the story. So it just seems 218 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: like there's this group of people that believe the most 219 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: humane thing to do is just let the homeless be 220 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: homeless and let them live in these horrible conditions. 221 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, and it's also an environmental disaster. I have a 222 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: cousin who lives not far from the sand and Seal Beach, 223 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: and the San Gabriel River ends at seal Beach. So 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: if there's homeless people and encampments that are in the river, 225 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: then the needles and the trash and the drugs, the chemicals, 226 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: the whatever is there that you don't want on your 227 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: beaches ends up on the sand, It ends up in 228 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: the sand, or it ends up in the water on 229 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: its seal beach, and the residents there have to get 230 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: out there hazmat suits on the weekends after it rains, 231 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: and they have to clean up the beach otherwise it's 232 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: going to look like a disaster zone. 233 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 234 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: I mean, and the stuff that's spilling into the waterways 235 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 3: across southern California anywhere near these encampments, We're talking human 236 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: waste and drugs and all that stuff. And it makes 237 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: you realize why you can't swim and why they post 238 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: all these advisories within forty eight hours, seventy two hours 239 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: of rainstorms. But it's also I mean it's extending that. 240 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: So sometimes it's not even around rainstorms, you still can't swim, 241 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: especially near Santa Monica Pier. 242 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that once you started putting these reports on 243 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: the air, your email exploded from different people all over 244 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: the region saying, well, it's not just the sewer, it's 245 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: not just the river. They're here, here, here, and here. 246 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: And of course there's only a certain number of hours 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: in the day. You can't investigate every single tip that 248 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: you get. But I would imagine that you've got a 249 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: bunch of. 250 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 3: Them, the emails, the dms, they are not stopping, and 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate them. I look at all of them and 252 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: it keeps me going and finding all these things. But yeah, 253 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: it's overwhelming the amount of people that have reached out 254 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: with these issues, and it makes you realize how big 255 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: of a problem this is across the region. I mean, 256 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: this is something that you know, some say is improving, 257 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: but a lot of people would say that it doesn't 258 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: feel like that. So I think the more that we 259 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: can show people what's going on, the better. 260 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: What are your colleagues. Gigi Gressiett did a story about 261 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: a man who was living at a bus stop in 262 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and it was a similar sort of story 263 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: about the person having mental health problems and really creating 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: a problem in the neighborhood. They called the city. They 265 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: want one of the city or the county to do 266 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: something about it and provide help and services to this individual, 267 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: and they showed up and instead of being thankful, their 268 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: reaction was, well, we're not going to do anything about 269 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: any of this until you leave, and in lesson, until 270 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: you leave, there will be no services provided to this person. 271 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: And her attitude was, well, we're reporting on a story, 272 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: this is news. We're gonna be here, and they just laughed. 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: And it seems like the attitude among those who have 274 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: the ability to do something about this is that they're 275 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: more mad at the news media for talking about it 276 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: than they are for them allowing this to happen in 277 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: the first place. 278 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: There's so much wrong with what happened with that story 279 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: that makes me so inferiated showing up there and then 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: not willing to help someone that clearly needs it because 281 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: cameras are recording. I mean, if anything that should make 282 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: you want to help this person more, but I don't 283 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: understand how you can ignore this person that clearly needs 284 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: help posing himself at a bus stop just because camera 285 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: crews are there. I think I've already reached out and 286 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: submitted a freedom of information after request into the services 287 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: that they're providing, see if we can get some numbers. 288 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: But clearly it seems like there's some sort of issue there, 289 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: and I'm hopeful that that person did get help, but 290 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: I think it's infuriating it and I wish that we 291 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: could have shown that person receiving treatment that day. 292 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: That seems to be their attitude, not just for homeless 293 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: people living in strange places, but it also seems to 294 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: be the attitude about crime that if we just didn't 295 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: report on it, people would think that it wasn't going 296 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: on around us. I remember we played sound from one 297 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: MTA meeting where they were going to address all of 298 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the crime stories that were being reported on the local 299 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: news about unsafe, dangerous situations happening on the MTA, and 300 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: their answer was, well, if we just floed the news 301 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: with positive stories about the MTA, it'll give it the 302 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: appearance of safety. And it's like, well, that's not what 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: our job is. Our job isn't to go to the 304 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: airport and report on the plane that landed on time. 305 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Our job is to report on something that happened that 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen, because that is news. And if the people 307 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: that live in the community that we service don't understand 308 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: what's going on around them, then we're not providing the 309 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: service that we're meant to provide. 310 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, I mean, we're doing our job and we're 311 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: showing the issues and the problems that are taking place, 312 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: or exposing it if you want to call it that. 313 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: But you know, it's unfortunate that it takes that There's 314 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: people that have been trying to call three one one 315 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: or report issues with crime and they feel like nothing's 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: being done. So I mean, that's when it's our job 317 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: as reporters to show it and you know, hopefully get 318 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: these people assistance and help that they need. But yeah, 319 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: it's unfortunate that it comes down to us needing to 320 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: step in for that to happen. 321 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: And you know what, if the chain of command would 322 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: produce the results that people were happy with, then residents 323 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to go to the news media because they 324 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: felt they had no other alternative exactly. 325 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're we are their last dish effort. 326 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: You've got to imagine a lot of people don't want 327 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: to go on camera. Even some of the tips that 328 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: I get. It's people that you know, just give me 329 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: addresses and show me pictures of what's going on. They 330 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: don't want to be on the news, but they feel 331 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: like it's important to get this issue out there. And 332 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: you think about what they've gone through to this point, 333 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: they feel like they need to reach out to the 334 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: media and show this because they feel like no one's answering, 335 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: no one's listening to their concerns. So this is their 336 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: only chance to see if they can get it fixed. 337 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Seedorf, you're doing excellent work over at kt TV 338 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Fox eleven. You can follow him on x at Matt Seedorf. 339 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: Matthew Seedorf, thanks so much for stopping by. 340 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, love the show, appreciate it. 341 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Eight hundred two two two five two two. 342 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Let's go to David Whittier. 343 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: Dave, Hello, yeah, John, remember back around twenty fifteen, Oh, 344 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 5: I went and spoke with some of these homeless folks 345 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: down there at the Santa Anna River bed I'm a 346 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: homeless outreach person. Back then in twenty fifteen, there was 347 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: the article that came out that all these the drug 348 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 5: addicts there, they were pushing up drugs, needles, drugs so 349 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 5: much that dads of them ended up washing up on 350 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 5: the entrance of the Santa Ana river bed at Newport Beach. 351 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: On the beach. This is hideous. I mean, it just 352 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 5: goes on and on. But we've got to have a 353 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 5: critical mass turnaround. And I've spoken to so many of 354 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 5: the homeless. I talked to them about their situation, ask 355 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 5: them why they don't have a home, You need a home? 356 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 5: Why are you here? And I learned from them The 357 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: thing is is we've got to raise enough money to 358 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: plaster these democrats out of office with negative campaignings. There 359 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 5: has to be a turnaround. You we got to strategize, 360 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 5: we have to raise the money and just we got 361 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: to get them out. Because it's on and on, and 362 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 5: that's to do with social justice. They do not believe 363 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: in enforcing crime because they don't want illegal aliens arrested. 364 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 5: And this is the effect. It's it's massive effect because 365 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: of that one thing. Mainly and overall, they just don't 366 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: want to too Bate Brown people. It's it's just ridiculous 367 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 5: and we're suffering. 368 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: All right. Thank you for the call, Sir eight hundred 369 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: two two two five two two two East cellphone number 370 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: one eight hundred two two two five two two two. 371 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: If you'd like to email the show, you can do 372 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: so at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. 373 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: That's Johnny, don't like show at gmail dot com. And Randy. 374 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Now that we're about well twenty six minutes away from 375 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: the show being over, if you want to continue listening 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: to us after we sign off, that's easy to do. 377 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: I means you're twenty five minutes away from loading up 378 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: that iPhone with a whole bunch of podcasts, and sure 379 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: you can be listening to all those national shows talking 380 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: about Iran, or you can ignore all that nonsense and 381 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: listen to us yacking about local politics. Search for The 382 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: John Phillips Show wherever you get your podcasts, whether it 383 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: be the Apple podcast app, iHeart, Spotify, search for the 384 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: John Phillips Show, hit subscribe you could download all the episodes. 385 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Let's go to Travis in Oakland. 386 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 6: Travis, Hello, Hi John, you were speaking with your last 387 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 6: guest about the media, not reporting on crime. Well, that's 388 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 6: what's been going on in Oakland lately. Last year, shortly 389 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 6: after Barbara Lee was inaugurated, councilwoman Carol Fife called a 390 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 6: special meeting at City Hall where she called the media 391 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 6: and different people in Oakland into the meeting. Why I 392 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 6: got worried about this meeting and I headed down there, 393 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 6: and what she proceeded to do was instruct the media 394 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: that the way they're going to tackle crime is to 395 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 6: have the media stop reporting on it. She literally said this. 396 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 6: Then other members of the city council said this. Then 397 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 6: she had supposedly expert witnesses or some sort of experts 398 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 6: speak about this, how this could stop crime. It doesn't 399 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 6: stop crime, It just stops the awareness of crime. You're 400 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 6: going to stop crime a lot easier when you're aware 401 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: of what's going on. Barbara Lee was actually there. She 402 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 6: didn't say much. She nodded her head in agreement, but 403 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 6: none of the members of the media that were present 404 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 6: gave any sort of pushback. They just sort of shook 405 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 6: their heads yes and went along with it. Now, there 406 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 6: are people in Oakland that do report on crime. There 407 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 6: are a couple decent reporters, but crime is still raging 408 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: in Oakland. It's still a problem. They're just covering it up. 409 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: And I can assure you this, I don't care what 410 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: politicians at any city hall in the state of California 411 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: have to say. If crime is a problem in California, 412 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: we will continue to report on it. Part of the 413 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: reason that we have the California Crime Blodder, and we 414 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: do it so often, is because outrageous crimes that should 415 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: not be occurring happen here on a daily basis, and 416 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: instead of dealing with it in any sort of rational way, 417 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: our fearless electeds just throw up their hands and go, well, 418 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Well, if they're not 419 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: going to stop it, we're going to embarrass them every 420 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: single day that we're on the air. And if they 421 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: don't like it, tough cookies. Thanks for the call, sir. 422 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to Ross and Gouatville Ross. Hello, Hey, John, 423 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: how you doing good? 424 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 7: Goo? 425 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: Right? 426 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: So I work for the wonderful state of California and 427 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 7: our wonderful politicians here, and I'm a carpenter up at 428 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 7: the at Thevio Veterans Home and I live here as well, 429 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 7: So I work here. I'm on call all the time. 430 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 7: You know, it's a great place to work. I love 431 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 7: our vets, you know, I want to take care of 432 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: our guys and our wonderful crooked politicians talk about all 433 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: these criminals have taken my rent and said, oh, you're 434 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 7: you're getting you're only paying fourteen to fifty a months. Well, 435 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 7: we're gonna we're going to change that to where you're 436 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: going to be paying twenty six to fifty a months. 437 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 7: But we're gonna we're gonna do it through a fringe 438 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 7: benefit and you're going to be taxed on this. So 439 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 7: then they went into my W two's and changed my 440 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 7: W twos for the past three years, avoiding the least 441 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 7: that I have with them. 442 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Wow, don't know the details of your particular situation, but 443 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're getting a raw deal. Thank you 444 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: for the call. Here all right, Randy, we have an 445 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: update on the hospice fraud that was uncovered by CBS News. 446 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: CBS News continues to investigate. By the way, this investigation 447 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: has been going on for years, So this isn't just 448 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: something that the new heads at CBS we're looking into. 449 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: They are trying to now track down some of the 450 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: doctors are on the names of all these documents, because 451 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: typically a doctor that works with hospice patients maybe sees 452 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: one hundred in a year. There's one guy who saw 453 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: three thousand in a year. 454 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh my. 455 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: For more on this, we go to CBS News. 456 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche announced today a widening federal 457 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: crackdown on fraud, covering multiple areas including healthcare, tax and 458 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: corporate fraud, and amid an ongoing CBS News investigation into 459 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: hospice fraud. Blanche called the problem the purest form of 460 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: stealing from the American people's pockets. Here's what happened when 461 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: CBS News correspondent Adam Yamaguchi tracked down a doctor who's 462 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: practice raised multiple red flags. 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 8: The state of California says that if a doctor is 464 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 8: involved with any more than like even just a few hospices, 465 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 8: it is a sign of potential fraud. 466 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: So then why isn't the state of California shutting it down. 467 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: You would think that the state of California, which is broke, 468 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: would be all over waste, fraud and abuse so they 469 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: could have more money to give to the union. 470 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: And you see the weird defenses that are coming out 471 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: of Gavin's bitchy press office today where hey, they were 472 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: defauding federal Medicare, not state medical dollars, So go after 473 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: the Feds like it's still operating illegally in the state 474 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: of California, and they got a business license from Shirley Weber. 475 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: And this is another case where they were angrier at 476 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: the news media for reporting on it than than at 477 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: the people that were stealing the money. 478 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 8: It is a sign of potential fraud at the heart 479 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 8: of the industry. Are doctors trusted to approve care? But 480 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 8: one stands out. His name appeared on claims from one 481 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 8: hundred and twenty six hospices. 482 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty six. 483 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: And yes, the federal government should also be cracking down 484 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: on this, and they haven't for decades. 485 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: And he had sixty percent more in Medicare reimbursements than 486 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: the next closest doctor in twenty twenty four, the last 487 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 8: full year of available data, doctor Rejiev Bouva. We wanted 488 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 8: to ask doctor Buva how we managed to work for 489 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 8: so many different providers. 490 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: So he's just that good of a doctor. Oh yeah, 491 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: he can be at all places at all times. 492 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: In fact, he's such a good hospice doctor that most 493 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: of his patients never died. 494 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 8: So we followed a trail of hospice offices across the 495 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 8: LA base and linked to his name seventy one million 496 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 8: dollars in Medicare claims in twenty twenty four. 497 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: We inderstand all attached to this one doctor. 498 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny. At a certain point, when 499 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: this guy decided, Okay, the money's there for the taking, 500 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: no one's minding the store. Why did I just stick 501 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: my hand into the till instead of saying, how about 502 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: a few shekels here or a few shekels there, No, 503 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: let's just go for the gold. Let's go for seventy 504 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: one million dollars. 505 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, I got to imagine that this guy, or the 506 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: people that are pretending to be this guy, have been 507 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: doing this for a very very, very long time, and 508 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: California is not mining the store, and up until just now, 509 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: the federal government wasn't mining the store. We should all 510 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: be on the same page, though, about wanting to root 511 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: this out, and Gavin blaming the federal government for this 512 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: isn't a very good look. 513 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: No, it's an awful look because he allowed this to 514 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: go on for years and years and years while he 515 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: was governor. 516 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 8: We understand that doctor Rajiv Bouva is a medical director here. 517 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 8: We're just trying to get some information about it. He's 518 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 8: not was he at some point? 519 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 7: Yes? 520 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 8: But you're telling me he no longer is associated with you. Guys, No, 521 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 8: was he? 522 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: Do you hear that the person he's at this hospice 523 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: office asking to see this doctor. Oh, that doctor doesn't 524 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: work here. And then somebody inside says, close the door, 525 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: close the door, close the door. 526 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: They know the jig is up. 527 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 8: But you're telling me he no longer is associated with you. Guys, 528 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 8: was here at some point? 529 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: I love the totally disingenuous thank you. We It almost 530 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: sounds like Barbara Ferrara. 531 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Well, let's do a little comparison here, speaking of fake doctors. 532 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 8: Thank you, was here at some point? 533 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 534 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 8: In California, a hospice doctor cares for an average of 535 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 8: one hundred and forty patients in a year. In twenty 536 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 8: twenty four, claims with Boova's name were submitted for nearly 537 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: twenty eight hundred terminally ill patients fraud. 538 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: How does that not trip an algorithm in a computer system? 539 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: Nobody's paying attention. 540 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that that's legit. 541 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: Even the Attorney General's office that's supposed to be cracking 542 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: down on something like this, they're not paying attention. 543 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 9: There's no reason to think that that's legitimate. 544 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 8: Doctor Christina Newport, a hospice physician of eighteen years, says, 545 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 8: there are several reasons why one doctor could be linked 546 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 8: to so many patients. One of those reasons identity theft. 547 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: They you know, would have us. 548 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: So you have a whole bunch of other criminal organizations 549 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: using the name and social security number of this one 550 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: doctor to bill on his behalf, but the money goes 551 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: to them. That's also very possible, that is true. I mean, heck, 552 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: we know during the COVID lockdowns that people were using 553 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Scott Peterson's social Security number to get edd checks mailed 554 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: out to him at their address among other prisoners. 555 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 8: They, you know, would have a super human schedule to 556 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 8: do that in a meaningful way. We reached out a 557 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 8: number of times to doctor Buva but couldn't connect, so 558 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 8: we headed to his home. He talked with us off camera, 559 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 8: but wanted to see our data. Hi, doctor Buva, this 560 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 8: is Adam Yamagucci with CBS News. We were able to 561 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 8: hear you through the door. 562 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Close the door, closed the door. 563 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 8: We brought that information to doctor Buva, but he refused 564 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 8: to answer the door. We're still waiting to talk to him. 565 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 8: Adam i Amacucci, CBS News, Los Angeles. 566 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: So there is the latest on CBS News's continuing investigation 567 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: into the rampant hospice fraud mostly taking place in Los 568 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: Angeles County, specifically out of that one building in Van 569 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: Eyes with like eighty seven of these things. But now 570 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: there's nothing to see here. This is all on the FEDS, 571 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: according to Gavin. 572 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Well, of course, that doctor doesn't have time to talk 573 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: to the news media. He's got nine million hospice patients 574 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: to take care of. Eight hundred two five two two 575 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: two e is telephone number one eight hundred two two 576 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: two five two two two. If you'd like to email 577 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: the show, you can do so at Johnny don't like 578 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show 579 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. All right. Recently, California Governor Gavin 580 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Newsom's parole boards have been letting a lot of really old, 581 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: really perverted people out of prison early because they're old 582 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: or they're actually fifty, which the state of California regards 583 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: as old, and. 584 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: Enough exposure to this story has happened that there's some pushback, 585 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: and we have a Democratic member of the legislature putting 586 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: forth a bill that would put a lot of new 587 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: restrictions on who qualifies for elder parole. That bill just 588 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: passed a key committee in the legislature. For more on this, 589 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: we got a Fox forty in Sacramento. 590 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 9: Emotional moments at the state Capitol as this woman who 591 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 9: goes by Tarina recounted the horrors she says she endured 592 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 9: three decades ago when she was just seven years old. 593 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 9: That's when she says convicted child rapist David Allen Funston molested. 594 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 10: Her, approaching me, handy, touching me, lure me into a 595 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 10: laundry room where he asks to see my bottom, and 596 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 10: attempted to pull down my pants at nineteen. 597 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: And the Pearl Board said, yep, that guy should go free. 598 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I understand the concept behind letting people 599 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: out of prison early for a couple of different reasons. 600 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: One is, the recidivism rate is probably not going to 601 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: be the same for some crimes, and you can take 602 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: their healthcare costs which are quite expensive, and shift it 603 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: from the state of California to the federal government, which 604 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: saves the state money. However, not all crimes are equal. 605 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: If you are elderly, and let's just for the purposes 606 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: of this discussion, talk about an actual elderly Let's say 607 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: you're seventy five years of age and you were convicted 608 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: of shooting up a seven to eleven during a robbery. Well, 609 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: a seventy five year old is probably not going to 610 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: do that for a variety of reasons. Your hip will 611 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: go out. I don't know. However, when you're talking about 612 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: child molustation, that's something that's in their brain. They're attracted 613 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: to minors, and frequently they're victims. Are people who are defenseless. 614 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: When I sat on jury duty for that month and 615 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: I sat on a case that was dealing with child molestation, 616 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: the defendant was eighty nine years of age. You would 617 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: look at that. You would say, Okay, someone who's eighty 618 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: nine is not capable of doing anything harmful. They're not 619 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: capable of doing anything violent. But when it comes to 620 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: sex crimes, that's somebody's grandpa, that's somebody's neighbor, that's somebody's 621 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: friend and they have access to children, because you don't 622 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: think that they're capable of doing something like that, what 623 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: in fact some of them are. And if you know 624 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: that someone has those prod elections and they're in prison 625 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: for doing so, and for being caught and tried and convicted, 626 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: why in the world you would let that person out 627 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: early simply as a function of age. Is beyond my 628 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: ability to comprehend. 629 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 9: In nineteen ninety nine, Funsen was sentenced to three consecutive 630 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 9: life terms for kidnapping and sexually assaulting seven children. 631 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: But this year, you know, unless you're over fifty, right, 632 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: But this. 633 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 9: Year his case returned to the spotlight after the State 634 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 9: Board of Parole Hearings granted his release. 635 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: And sure Gavin wants to say, oh, I didn't approve 636 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: of that. Gavin appoints these people. 637 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 9: After the State Board of Parole Hearings granted his release 638 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 9: under California's Elderly Parole Program. As a stands today, the 639 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 9: program allows prisoners fifty years or older who've served at 640 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 9: least twenty years their sentence to apply for early release 641 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 9: from state prison in the function in case. Despite Governor 642 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom's opposition, to his release. The Parole Board moved 643 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 9: forward with it, saying. 644 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 2: His appointees it doesn't matter. Gavin can try to say 645 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: it's not my fault, but he put these people in 646 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: charge of who gets out of prison. 647 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: And the only reason that he's opposed to this is 648 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: because it's making news. If it didn't make news, he 649 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: would be totally fine with the parole board voting to 650 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: let this individual out. 651 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 9: Forward with it saying Fundction no longer posed a quote 652 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 9: unreasonable risk to public safety upon his scheduled release, though, 653 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 9: the sixty four year old Fundston was transferred to Plaster 654 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 9: County to face unrelated new child sexual assault charges. 655 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 2: And so the story with that one why Plaster County 656 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: was able to arrest this guy immediately after getting out 657 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: was because they had other charges of other victims that 658 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: they decided not to file because they were convinced that, oh, 659 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: he's going away life. 660 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: But you can't always rely on some Republican prosecutor in 661 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: a small county to step in and save the day. 662 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: A lot of these people are going to be let out. 663 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 9: Otherwise he'd be out today. 664 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 10: My real life bucking man is able to get really early. 665 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: Please fix this terrible. 666 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 9: Law affect she believes is possible to a Democratic Assembly member, 667 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 9: Stephanie wins Bill AB twenty seven to twenty seven, a 668 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 9: bill the Assembly Public Safety Committee took up Tuesday. 669 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: Abe twenty seven, twenty seven. 670 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 9: If passed and signed, the proposal will raise the elderly 671 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 9: parole eligibility from fifty to sixty five and increase the 672 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 9: time served threshold to twenty five years. 673 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: So pretty much undoing a lot of what Gavin signed 674 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 2: to make this even more lenient in twenty twenty one. 675 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: I would love Gavin to do a sit down interview 676 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: where he explained why he thought this was a good idea. 677 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 2: Oh, he won't do that. This is why he'd doesn't 678 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: talk to anybody that knows anything about California issues. 679 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 9: Of course, it will also require a state hospital screening 680 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 9: and bar those convicted of the most serious sex crimes 681 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 9: against young children from qualifying. 682 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: That seems pretty common sense. I'd love to see outside 683 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: of Scott Wiener, who votes against this one good question. 684 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: Anything that we can do to protect victims, anything that 685 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 3: we can do to protect those that went through these 686 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: decades ago, would be helpful. 687 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 9: The committee advanced the bill with bipartisan support. It's very 688 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 9: complement The bill, though does face some opposition. 689 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 10: We need to stop unnecessarily incarcerating elders who have aged 690 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 10: out of crime and reinvest those dollars. 691 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: What idiot is that. 692 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: Probably works with a nonprofit, probably. 693 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 10: So survivors have more services. 694 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 9: But Governor Gavin knew Some last month signaled he'll support. 695 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: Yes, there are victim advocate services that want to make 696 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: sure that people continue to be victimized so they can 697 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: get much money from state budgets yep. 698 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: And our taxpayers are going to pay for these people's salaries. 699 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 9: But Governor Gavin knew Them last month signaled he'll support 700 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 9: the legislation. 701 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 8: We're working with the legislature and I think there's real 702 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 8: opportunities to advance some of those. 703 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: Reforms, including undoing the reforms I signed into law five 704 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: years ago. 705 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: Oh, he won't mention that. 706 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 9: And the bill next heads to the Assembly Appropriations Committee 707 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 9: at the state Capitol. Covering local news that matter, Saton Wallace, 708 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 9: Fox forty News. 709 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: There you go. We actually might have some movement changing 710 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: the insane elder parole law.