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Speaker 1: This is Bob Tannem in the garden.

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Speaker 2: With Edie Tannem. Sorry but I got a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a cold, so it'll show, I'm sure. Anyway, we

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Speaker 2: are looking forward to a large event for in the

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Speaker 2: my guest this morning for the first fifteen minutes, here

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Speaker 2: is Suzanne Mueller from the Bonzeie Garden in Lake Merritt. So,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Suzanne. How are you this morning?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. How are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting there, take a little cold medicine here and there,

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Speaker 2: and go, hey, where's that tea? I really want? Not

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Speaker 2: the ginger yesterday, but exactly I did get some fresh

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Speaker 2: now I am, and I'm like, okay, I've got fresh

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Speaker 2: I get ready for my tea. I just didn't have

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Speaker 2: my mind this morning for sure. Let's talk about let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the Bonsai Garden in Lake Merritt and how

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Speaker 2: important this event is that's coming up next weekend the

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Speaker 2: Mammoth Show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you for asking and for producing this

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Speaker 3: segment regarding the Bonesie Garden. So the Bonsai Garden functioned

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Speaker 3: solely by donation and solely by my volunteers.

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Speaker 4: So we are not supported.

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Speaker 3: By the city or any other organizations unless we write grants.

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Speaker 3: So the Mammoth fundraiser is our biggest money making event,

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Speaker 3: and it is actually what supports the maintenance of the

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Speaker 3: that we have a successful fundraising.

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Speaker 2: Great and that's happening next weekend Saturday and Sunday. So

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Speaker 2: Saturday is a special day and we'll talk more with

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Speaker 2: Addison after this about that part of it. But what

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff is also income from the event.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I want to just reference Saturday for a

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Speaker 3: Saturday is our big auction and we do have all

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Speaker 3: of the trees posted on our website Bonsidelake merit dot com.

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Speaker 3: And once the auction one to three on Saturday, then

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Speaker 3: we tear this room down and then we set the

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Speaker 3: room up for our vendors. And some vendors will show

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Speaker 3: sale on Saturday and some vendors. All vendors will show

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Speaker 3: vendors range from folks who sell soil, wire tools, some trees,

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Speaker 3: So we kind of try to cover the gambit of

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Speaker 3: whatever a bonesie hobbyist would need to help them with

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Speaker 2: Their hobby definitely.

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Speaker 3: And then and then also sorry about that. So also

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, we have a huge sale and this sale

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Speaker 3: is for folks that want to bring any kind of equipment, pots, stands, trees,

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Speaker 3: what have you. They can consign those items bring them

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Speaker 3: can get seventy five percent of the sale and the

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Speaker 3: which means that any sales that are donated to the

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Speaker 2: Definitely, okay, So that one's going on Saturday before the

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Speaker 3: Also, the sale is Sunday only. Oh okay, items in

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Speaker 2: Oh got it? Perfect? Got it? Well, okay, so bring

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Speaker 3: That is correct, right, and then sorry, yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: And then also on Sunday we do have a silent auction,

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Speaker 3: And then of course this whole entire schedule is on

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Speaker 2: And you can get to that website actually just by

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Speaker 2: really well. I also wanted to to kind of share

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Speaker 2: you do, So tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 3: So I started volunteering at the Bonese Garden maybe in

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. I was part of the club's group that

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Speaker 3: the director for the Bonese Garden for a little over

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Speaker 3: the curator of the gardens. So we work very closely.

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Speaker 3: We work in tandem. My responsibilities are I am in

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Speaker 3: includes the fenced in area. I'm in charge of the facility,

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Speaker 3: make sure that they are kept healthy and safe. I'm

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Speaker 3: in charge of all the volunteers that come and their docints.

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Speaker 3: So they opened the garden. Their their responsibility is major.

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Speaker 3: If we don't have docints, we don't open. I'm in

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Speaker 3: treasurer position. Oh so I managed I have a lot

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Speaker 2: Good yes, yes, yes you do. I've seen them around. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so and then the other brain, Oh yeah, I did

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Speaker 2: I just heard something I wanted to talk about more,

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Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to talk about. So this this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so and great question. So just a little you know,

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Speaker 3: a couple of dates in nineteen seventy four. Nineteen seventy four,

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Speaker 3: Hideco were both instrumental in providing seed money. Hideco was

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Speaker 3: twenty plus years, we finalized the agreement with the City

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Speaker 3: of Oakland to have this property that we are currently

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Speaker 3: when the garden opened. So we've been open now for

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Speaker 3: we actually produced a twenty fifth year anniversary book, both

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Speaker 3: hardcover and soft cover that we do sell in the garden,

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Speaker 3: and it talks about the history and the individuals and

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Speaker 2: Right. It's an incredible place. I mean, every time I

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Speaker 2: can do. That's wonderful. Thank you, Suzanne, Well, thank you

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Speaker 3: EDC next weekend, thank you for what you do.

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, all right, take care. All right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bob Danam in the Garden on Talk

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. This is we are going to

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Speaker 2: do a little segment here with Addison Galambos. He is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, like you said, my name's Addison Galambos, I've

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Speaker 5: been doing bonsai for about eight years, and I've been

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Speaker 5: having a lot of fun being a part of that

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Speaker 5: great group of folks. But really I'm just trying to

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Speaker 5: pursuit of that. I've been taking lots of classes. I

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Speaker 5: me to keep getting better. And then just recently I

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Speaker 5: took a trip to Japan, so I like going there

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Speaker 5: recent visit was to see the hundredth anniversary Kokofu, which

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Speaker 5: is one of the top shows in the world, and

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Speaker 5: that was really a breathtaking experience. The quality of trees

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Speaker 5: kind of me in a nutshell definitely.

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Speaker 2: And so you are one of the main auctioneer for

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Speaker 2: the Mammoth Show because this is like a real true auction,

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Speaker 2: which is really cool, especially when you have somebody like

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Speaker 2: other people introduce the trees, and then you run the

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Speaker 2: actual verbiage of the auction, which is really really fun.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a little sample of what that

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Speaker 2: Juniper from Japan. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: that up at the beginning of the show this morning

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Speaker 2: to talk to Suzanne, and then we did a little

435
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Speaker 2: recording with Addison about the show coming out, the Mammoth

436
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: Bonzi Show, which is the big fundraiser for the Bonzi

437
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 2: Garden at Lake Merritt. So you can look at the

438
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: trees that are going to be auctioned if you go

439
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: to that website bg LM dot com and you can

440
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: take out I think it's dot com. Oh my goodness,

441
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: I have to look that up anyway, you can double

442
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: check that. So yeah, So that's gonna be a lot

443
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: of fun. That's over at six six six Bellevue in

444
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Oakland and this five dollars to park close to the event,

445
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: and it's going to be held at the County Fair building.

446
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: County Fair. What is that building called. It's called a

447
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: Lakeside something garden center, I think it is. It's the

448
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: main building when you're coming into the parking lot off

449
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: to the left. When you come in, they'll be you know,

450
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: you'll probably be going past that to park and then

451
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: walking back. You could even park all the way across

452
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: at the Bonside Garden that's Almos darn. I wanted to

453
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: ask Susanna to see if it was going to be

454
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: open that day as well. But you'll be walking through.

455
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: You can walk all the way through the garden and

456
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: then find the main building where the auction is going

457
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: to be. So that's gonna be fun. And that's Saturday

458
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: and Sunday is going to be the vendor sale and

459
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: consignment sales, so both days are important to go to

460
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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be fun. So that was great. I'm

461
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: glad I was able to get there. With the history

462
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of the bon Side Garden. Other gardening

463
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Speaker 2: things coming up. There is a citrus tasting that is happening.

464
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Speaker 2: They do it once a couple of times a year,

465
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Speaker 2: at least once a year March fifteenth. Yeah, Bonzi Lake

466
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Speaker 2: Merit dot Com BTLM is also the easy way to

467
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Speaker 2: get there. Thank you. David. Oh didn't know, maybe because

468
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: I look it up all the time, but just pops

469
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 2: up in my Google surge going, oh, yes, you always

470
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: mean the Bonsie Garden at Lake Merrit, so Bonzi Lake

471
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Speaker 2: Merit dot com is Another is the full website that's

472
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: also linked on my web page, which is Bob Tannem

473
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: dot com. And so all sorts of information about all

474
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: my past shows and everything else will be up on

475
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: my website as well, which is a There's also a

476
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: Bonzie page which has does talk about the mammoth sale

477
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. I can't remember if I updated it

478
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: for this year. That happens every year and kind of

479
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: in between two to three weeks of each other is

480
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: when they have it. So the Yamagami Citrus Tasting is

481
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: March fifteenth. They are in Kubertino, thirteen sixty one South

482
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Dyanza Boulevard. If you want to find out more information,

483
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: you can call them at four oh eight or you

484
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: can text them even four oh eight two five two

485
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: three three five seven four oh eight two five two

486
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: three three five seven four seven. Oh my god, that's

487
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: what happens when you talk talk and you have a cold.

488
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: Four o eight two five two three three four seven

489
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Speaker 2: For Yamagami's Nursery and Kubertino and they have an event

490
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: every week this this month. Yeah, so I think a

491
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: lot of garden you know, a lot of nurseries are

492
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: having all sorts of interesting events coming up, and so

493
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: that can be a lot of fun. Excuse me, Yeah,

494
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: so I am suffering a little bit of a cold,

495
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: but yeah, I have to make my magic tea today, honey,

496
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: ginger and lemon, and of course I've got play of lemons.

497
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: I bet you all do too. Tis the season for

498
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: citrus fruiting, not quite for oranges. They take a little

499
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: bit longer to ripen. I'm sure you see the orange

500
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: fruit and if they're already smaller, you're not going to

501
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: get a bigger But I did have that question. I'm

502
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: trying to remember when where somebody was asking how do

503
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: you get that bigger fruit? Because after, you know, you

504
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: go through a season and all of a sudden, all

505
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: the fruit is really small. How do you develop larger

506
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: fruit like you have had in the past. Well, I

507
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: think season has a lot to do with it. That

508
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: the you know, we have had a warm season, we

509
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: have not had a cold chill for very long or

510
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: long enough to do much good, and so it's important

511
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: to kind of look through and see what you might

512
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: be able to do for next year. Start now, start fertilizing.

513
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: March is the month, right, and you want to fertilize

514
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: every single month of the citrus. You know, some people

515
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: say a growing season, but I usually my dad had

516
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: talked to a lot of citrus growers throughout his life

517
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: and the biggest thing was the biggest takeaway was feeding

518
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: every month. I like to do a big bolt in

519
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: the spring. So I like to put the chicken manure

520
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: or whatever manure source you have that's clean manure and

521
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: the alfalfa pellets and mix that up together and put

522
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: a few big scoops to you know, probably about five

523
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: scoops around a solid a big tree. And what's a scoop, Well,

524
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: that's a whole other ball game. Anyway, you put that

525
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: around the citrus in the spring, you know, starting now,

526
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: and to get that growth going. And then as soon

527
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: as the growth goes then you'll get more flowers for

528
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: next year's fruit coming up in another month. So it

529
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: takes a year. Yeah, that's pretty cool anyway. But you know,

530
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: the one thing that citrus has that other fruit trees

531
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: don't have. Every other fruit tree is that they are

532
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: self pollinating. So as long as you've got things going

533
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: on around the garden, like the flowers coming and the

534
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: bees coming and doing their thing, then you've got some

535
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: good pollination. If you don't, then you might want to

536
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: look to the weather to see if there's any wind.

537
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: Wind is another pollinator, And then if you don't have

538
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: either of those, then you might want to get out

539
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: there and shake your trees. You know. They do that

540
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: with tomato plants too, to try to get that pollination

541
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: around to get better tomatoes too. So food for thought,

542
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Food for thought. I think that food for thought. All right,

543
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping everybody's awake this morning. I know. Of

544
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: the last few the weeks we've had recorded shows, I

545
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: hope you were able to hear my guest at the

546
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: beginning of the month of February. He was Charlie Nardozi,

547
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: and he was talking about The Continuous Vegetable Garden, a

548
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: great book to get. Yes, he's in the in the

549
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: on the East coast. But the type of plants that

550
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: he talks about perennal, perennializing. That's a word I'm sure

551
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: somewhere in somebody's dictionary. Lots of different fruit trees and vegetables. Obviously,

552
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: we have our artichokes here that we know, but we

553
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: also have all sorts of different things that perennialize, like asparagus.

554
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: There's even an article on the website about asparagus. So

555
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: if you are interested in trying to grow some asparagus,

556
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: it's a time to get those starts in the ground.

557
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: There's a whole planting regimen to go through to get

558
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: asparagus to going, and that's on the website Bob Tannem

559
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: dot com. Just take a look at asparagus or search

560
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: for I think you can actually search for asparagus on

561
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Bob Tannem dot com and see that article that my

562
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: father wrote years ago, which is always still true and

563
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: gives you a nice idea of how you can grow

564
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: your own asparagus. And it is a perennial it goes

565
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: through a whole different perennial process. I wouldn't mind somebody

566
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: rescuing my nose, being that I have a cold. It's

567
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: hard to keep talking and talking and cotton anyway. So

568
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: eight O eight five six zero zero four one five

569
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: area code eighth eight five six zero zero and give

570
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: us a call and of course, the book also talks

571
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: about you know, herbs and things like that which we

572
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: know are perennials which are easy to grow here. And

573
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: it also talks about seeding and talks about h you know,

574
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: harvesting seed to replant the following year. And then there

575
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: is a whole section on fruit trees. So I hope

576
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: you were able to listen to that. He also has

577
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: a podcast that he does out of Connecticut, and he's

578
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: pretty cool. He also has a website. So Charlie Nardozi

579
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: is the gardener, is the gentleman I had that interview

580
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: with and I think I also have his website coming up,

581
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 2: but you can take a look for his you can

582
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: search under his name, and I have a thingy there anyway,

583
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: So if you also have anything going on with your

584
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: master Gardner group, please call in now and you can

585
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: let people know. Maybe if you already know when your

586
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: tomato sales are going to be happening, that this would

587
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: be a good time to mention that. So if you've

588
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: got time, Oh and don't forget. Today is the last

589
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: day for the Orchid Obscura, which is the Pacific Orchid

590
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: Exposition at the County Fair Building in San Francisco. I

591
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: put some very pretty pictures up, of course on my

592
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Facebook page, which is also Bob Tannem and you just

593
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: look up Bob Tannam put the words together. So Bob,

594
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: we got Bob, Bob Bobbsey's and tanam Tea is on

595
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: tom A and is a Nancy e Emas and Mary.

596
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: If you can't understand my stuff, he knows here all right.

597
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: So that is also a thing that you can join.

598
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 2: Is just look for that in the Facebook. It's always

599
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: public whenever I post, and you can always take a

600
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: look and you can always find the information there. And

601
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: of course pictures from the orchid exhibition. So that is

602
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: happened in today's the last day. So if you've got

603
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: an if you've got an idea that you want to

604
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: go and get an orchid or other house plants. They've

605
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: got very unique houseplants there that you can get. So

606
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: you can go to the San Francisco County Fair Building

607
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: and that is on Lincoln and Ninth in San Francisco.

608
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Jill in cast Wait, Oh,

609
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: should we take a break first, David, Okay, we'll take

610
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: a break and then we'll go back to Jill and

611
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: we'll be talking to her in just a moment.

612
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bobta and I'm in the garden on

613
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: talk radio we.

614
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Have I'll call from Jill and Castro. Good morning, Jill.

615
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: How are you.

616
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm doing good, better than you are.

617
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that. How can I help?

618
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: Well, I had some beautiful tulips and they did their thing,

619
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 4: and now they're dead, and I want to save the bulbs. Now,

620
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: I pulled them up with the stems on them and everything,

621
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: and I washed them off and let the sun dry

622
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: him out. How can I save these tulips? Do I

623
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: put them in the refrigerator? What do I do with them?

624
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: The bulbs christ storage? Yeah, so what I would have

625
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: done is lift let well, I know, cry over spilled milk.

626
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: But what I would have done is leave him in

627
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: the ground. Now, how much of the growth, green growth

628
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: had died down totally? It was all brown by the

629
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: time you pulled them up.

630
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: Well, I I, well, I couldn't leave him in the ground.

631
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: I had to take them out. Well, the st it ill,

632
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: so I would Oh, I'm sorry, what was that?

633
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: So?

634
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? So the way that the bulb actually stores its

635
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: energy for the following year is by pulling everything from

636
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: the green growth when it dies down. So if they're

637
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: pulled up after they've blossomed, then I would I would

638
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: actually repot them. I know you've already washed them off

639
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: and that type of thing. And the reason I say

640
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: that is because that greenery that is still on the

641
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: stalk is going to feed the bulb for the following

642
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: year as it begins to dry completely. So feeding and

643
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: watering after the flower has has finished is the best

644
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: way to store energy for the following year. If if

645
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: that's just not going to happen, which is fine, and

646
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: if the bulbs are of decent size, you know, it

647
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they're dead, and you've already washed them

648
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: off and dry them, you can store them in paper

649
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: bags basically in the garage where it's cool. Doesn't get

650
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: hot until next probably next November, and then at that

651
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: time go ahead and put them in a refrigerator for

652
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: two weeks to get them cold hardy okay or cold

653
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: whatever they called cold storage two weeks, and then you

654
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: go ahead and plant them out that at the end

655
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: of November basically uh, and then they should do what

656
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: they're supposed to do. But if there's any possibility of

657
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: containerizing them when you plant, when you pull them up,

658
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: that would have been a better That would have been

659
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: my follow through on that.

660
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 4: Nether would just put them in another container and replant

661
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: them again and just let them sitting.

662
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: The ground exactly. If that's if that area that you

663
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: had them growing in is going to be used for

664
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: something else and you just can't leave them there, Yeah,

665
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: then that's that. Then you want to uproot them and

666
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: repot them into containers to let that greenery die down

667
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: to feed them mold for the following year. So same

668
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: with daffodils.

669
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: Good, Okay, I can do that. Okay, Well, thank you

670
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: for that. I appreciate your thank you very much. Thank you.

671
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: Course, not a problem. Thanks Jill, all right, take care,

672
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: all right, any of the calls, feel free to give

673
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: us a ring a dingy. I remember edithan Oh my gosh, okay, anyway, yeah,

674
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: of course my name was Edith. I had changed it

675
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: many many moons ago because I didn't really like it.

676
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, my nickname wasn't Eadie. That's not exactly how

677
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: that worked. I was booboo. But that was all the

678
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: other anyway, Edith, and I like that. Give me a

679
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: ring a ding. So the phone number to ring you

680
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: dingy me at is four one five eight oh eight

681
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: five six zero zero. That's eight uh what it was

682
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: one more time four one five eight eight o eight

683
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: five six zero zero. Sorry a little starting around there. Yeah,

684
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: So if you are talking about, you know, bulbs that

685
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: are doing their thing, it is best to let them be.

686
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, in colder climates, if you

687
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: get a good cold snap, say you're in the valley

688
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: like wood Acre, or you're in the valley of Orinda,

689
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: you're in a valley where it really does get cold.

690
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: When it gets cold, then you can definitely leave even

691
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: tulips in the ground and they will come back next year,

692
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: of course, getting bigger and bigger flowers. Of course, the

693
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: goal which because we had a mild winter, the rest

694
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: of us had a very mild winter, it doesn't really

695
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: set up the best stock or the length of the

696
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: stalk will vary and they'll get shorter, shorter and shorter

697
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: the more you leave them in the ground. But then again,

698
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: you know you might want to wait for another cold year.

699
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean the weather has just been whacked right, and

700
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: we get almost close to freezing or just about freezing,

701
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: and then the next day we're in the seventies. It's like, okay,

702
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: what are we going to do now? And of course

703
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: now we have the overcast and we're looking at that,

704
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: going well, that's going to make it cooler, you know,

705
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: but no rain. And we go from there. So tell

706
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: me what's going on in your garden. Were you able

707
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: to get out there and do the pruning and the

708
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: spring before the last rain on your apricots? Not pruning

709
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: on the apricots. I have to remember that, no apricot,

710
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: no cherry pruning in the winter, only in the summer

711
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: after the fruit, all right, remember that. And then there's

712
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: other things that we've talked about. I hope you didn't

713
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: mind a repeat of Edlivo that we did last month,

714
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: because he was he was very very good about what

715
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: he does. And of course you can always subscribe to

716
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: his YouTube channel and find out lots and lots and

717
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: lots more about, you know, taking care of fruit. And

718
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: of course he always introduces new varieties whenever he can

719
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: as well, so that's that could be very fun. And

720
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: then citrus, So we were talking about citrus this morning

721
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: and citrus care and Yamagama citrus tasting and the size

722
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: of the fruit. So I didn't really I kind of

723
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: skipped over that. That thing that you can do with

724
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: almost every fruit tree is when it's flowering, when it

725
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 2: puts out it's spring flowers, you can kind of pick

726
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: through to that short tree that you now have nicely pruned.

727
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: You can pick through the flowers to see if you

728
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: can thin out the fruit that's coming so that the

729
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: flowers that are left will be able to be pollinated

730
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: and put out that larger fruit. You know, So just

731
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: kind of get in there and take a look at

732
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: your apple trees, for instance, when they come out and bloom,

733
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: and just see exactly how many fruit they're going to

734
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: put out. And if there's too many and the fruit

735
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: starts to form, then all of those apples on that

736
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: edge will probably try to hold on as much as

737
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: they can. Some will self shed, which is fine, but

738
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: the rest that are remaining, you might want to thin

739
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: them out a little bit as they go through that

740
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: flowering to fruit form and give them some space to

741
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: grow right, so that you can have a pretty decent

742
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: sized apple on your trees or other trees. I wouldn't

743
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: thin out cherries, I wouldn't thin out apricots, but you

744
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: can thin out citrus, So take a look at that.

745
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: Just get them pollinated and wait for the fruit to

746
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: set and then take off the smaller pieces. But that's

747
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: kind of fun, so you could kind of do that.

748
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: Anything else going on, Someone was talking about a houseplant

749
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: that was blooming. I was talking to her, and I

750
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: was thinking some plants