1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Giants fans, this is your hub to have your voice 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: heards sports phone KNBR streaming live on YouTube at KNBR 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: one oh four five. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to KMBR with Bill Laski. Tomorrow, 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: first pitch, it's going to be on Fox Sports at 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: four fifteen. Will Warn a right hand or twenty six 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: years old. Last year thirty three games, he pitched for 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: the New York Yankees nine to eight with a four 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: point four earned run average against Tyler Mayley his first 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: start with the San Francisco and Giants. Of course, he's 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: thirty one years old, sixteen stars. Last year with the 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Texas Rangers six and four with a two point one 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: point eight and of course you can hear that game 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: right here on CAMBR. And of course, like I said, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: extra inning postgame show will follow my guest coming up next. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: He was at the game today, so we're going to 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: get some insight from him. Of course you can follow 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: him on Twitter at Steve Kroner S. So let's bring 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: in my buddy Steve. Steve, how are you on a 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Friday night? 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Bill? I'm doing okay, and you just want to say 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: that to heard your fine interview with Travis E Chicau 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: in the previous segment, and the next time you talk 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: to Travis, tell him I was one of one hundred 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: thousand people who was there for Game five and twenty 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: fourteen when he hit the homer. I was there. 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: That was pretty funny when he said that. And I'm 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: sure there was so many people wherever he was at 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: with San Jose or even in Arizona saying that they 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: were at that game when he hit the home run 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. But I thought it was pretty funny. 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: When I brought up about Daniel Sussak, he came out 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: in an article saying that, of course his brother was 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: on that team. And when he said it, I said, 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: I got to write that down. I wrote that note down, 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: and Travis said, yeah, you told me about it in 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: the batting cage and we laughed about it. And of 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: course his one liner back Steve, was yeah, my lower 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: back's hurting and my feet are still sore. So a 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: good memory right there from Andrew Sussek. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I will say, in this era of full disclosure, 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: I was not in high school when Travis hit that. 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Well today, let's go into today, Steve. Before the game, 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: it was that day game. It was the opening day 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: for the San Francisco Giants, and they always put the 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: red carpet out there. You were out there a fabulous day. 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: The weather was perfect, the heat from last week was gone. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: It was full ballpark. Everybody was all ready for a 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: good game. Tell me how that atmosphere was before the game. 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Before the game, it was great. You know, it's a 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: little bit weird because there was an opener two nights ago, 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know if there if you could really 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: say it felt like a traditional opener, but there still was. 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: There still were a lot of people excited. It was 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: a beautiful day. And you know, I think you and 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: I have thought about this in the past. It's hard 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: to say remembrances of people who who are no longer 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: with us is a beautiful thing. But the Giants do 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: a very nice job. And in fact, I think it 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: was today between the Black national anthem and the national anthem, 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: they ran the photos and memories of Giants players, Giants employees, 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: people around baseball, a number of Bay Area media types 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: and to that, to me, inevitably hits a cord. And 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the Giants did that very well today. 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: They sure Dan and I mentioned on my opening. Valerie McGuire, 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: a good friend of mine that worked for the Giants 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: for many years. We always wore the orange car, the car, 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: the orange flower corsage, and she was the one that 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: really instituted that. Oh god, twenty years or more. All 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: the males had it on their shirts and their jackets, 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: and the women had it on. And that's why that 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: pin was given out to all the fans for her memory, 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: and they made it the Valerie McGuire Opening Day. And 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: it was such a classy move by the Giants because 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: she was there for marketing and different things, but I 76 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: worked along side of her and she was a special lady. 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: She died too early of cancer and it was a 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: hard point for all of us when she passed away, 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: and I'm so glad the Giants stepped forward to make 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: that special for her and her family. 81 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Again, it's a very poignant moment in you 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: know what. Obviously, it's usually a day of celebration. It's 83 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: opening day, even if it's the second game of the season, 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: opening day, But to give that moment to those who've 85 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: gone before us and are no longer with us, I mean, 86 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: to be honest. Two people I saw on that board 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: with whom I was pretty close and very good friends. 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: David Bush, longtime chronicle writer, and Dave Newhouse, longtime Oakland 89 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: tribute and columnists, both excellent journalists and both really nice men, 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: really nice to me. Both really get home from me today. 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: And you know what, Steve NBC Bay Area got to 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: do that first twenty minutes and twenty five minutes and 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 2: they got to show all that, and I was so glad. 94 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I got to see that there was a couple of 95 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: ushers that I did not know that passed away, and 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 2: that kind of surprised me. But they do that every year, 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: and some of the Giant players, some of the older 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: players that I knew their name, I didn't know them, 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: and you start thinking, wow, wow, he passed away, And 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: it happens like that because we don't see all the news. 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: The Giants, of course, have a great alumni association, and 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: they propelled that very well. And that was kind of 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: a segue into John Miller introducing the players, getting the 104 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: fans roaring up for a new seas and he does 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: it so well, and I think you probably said the 106 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: same way. You know, everybody's standing getting excited, and here's 107 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: your new team, the flyover goes on, But what happens 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: after that? The first pitch with Jeff Kent and Dusty Baker, 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: and I thought that was the perfect mark. Of course, 110 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: Jeff Kent will be going into the National Hall of 111 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Fame in July. A great giant. He ended up coming 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: up with Kruk and Kype during the game. What'd you 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: think of that whole ceremony? 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: That was very very cool, and I can turn that 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: into a little bit of a col mentioned. Of course, 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Kent is the first Cow player ever to get inducted, 117 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: will be the first half player ever get inducted in 118 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame. And Dusty's son, Darren, was 119 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: a second basement at Cal for four years, so that 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: was a nice moment for Giants fans. Was a very 121 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: nice moment for Cal folks as well. Well. 122 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: You and I talked many times through spring training. You've 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: been on this show before war and extra innings on weekends, 124 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: and one of the biggest things you and I kept 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: talking about is how well the team was hitting, making 126 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: contact going the opposite way. Batting average was through the roof, 127 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: score so many runs. What the hell happened to this 128 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: offense in the last two games, Steve, I really would 129 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: like to hear your thoughts. 130 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Well, Freed and Schlittler. I think those are two things. 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not not hitting against bums. I mean 132 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: both those guys are pretty good pitchers. You'd still like 133 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: to think you could get more than five hits, more 134 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: than one ex the base hit and a runner to 135 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: every now and then. But you know, again, if this 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: happens in late June or late July and you face 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: two really good pitchers and you don't do much offensively, 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's still not great, but it certainly 139 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have the impact that it does in the first 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: two games of the season. It's hard to paper over 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Giants, I mean, not only do they 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: not have many hits, there are times Bill you know 143 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: this too, when a team can hit the ball really 144 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: hard and get you know, you're hitting in bad luck 145 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: and you don't get anything to show for your line 146 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: drives or your deep fly balls. You know, the times 147 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: guys say they were at and t or Oracle now 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: and hit the ball deep to the warning track. Hit 149 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: The Giants for the first team didn't really haven't hit 150 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: many balls hard at all. It's not as if they're 151 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: getting robbed and hitting in bad luck. They just aren't 152 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: hitting at all. 153 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, the big number thirteen strikeouts jumps at you. I mean, 154 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: there's no question they're thirteen punch outs. And most of 155 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: these guys, the top three guys hit four times. Everybody 156 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: else only hit three times. So that tells you a 157 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: lot right there, especially when the lineup turns over. There 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: was nothing there. The only one that did not strike 159 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: out was Luisa Raise. Everybody else when you look at three, 160 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: four Dever's and Adamas six strikeouts and seven and bats, 161 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: and that right tells me right there, either overswinging, not 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: being able to hit a plain old fastball and putting 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: the ball in contact, contact play, hit the ball. And 164 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: some of those strikeouts were three pitches. Matt Chapman had one, 165 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: William Domas had one. That's telling me the approach or 166 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: what you're thinking about going up there, cut your strike down, 167 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: hit the ball, put it in play. They didn't do 168 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: that at all today. 169 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I can't argue that, but I will say, 170 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, looking up at the at the scoreboard after 171 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: some of the Schlittler's pitches and he's throwing ninety six 172 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: on the black and you know it wasn't as if, 173 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: again that they were missing pitches to hit. He he 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: was a tough customer, as was MaTx Freed Wednesday night. Again, 175 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to, you know, overplay two games in 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: still in March. It's already to say, you know, not 177 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: even April yet, it's still in March. But you certainly, 178 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this, you certainly want to score before you 179 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: head to San Diego. You would hate to take a 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven innings scoreless streak down South. So you know 181 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: it's it's not a must win. Don't ever hear me 182 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: say it's a must win game tomorrow. When you're in March, 183 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: I might be close to say, no, it's a must 184 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: score game. If there is difference, I think it would 185 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: be awfully hard for this team to go twenty seven 186 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: innings without a run. You can go three games at 187 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: any point in the season without winning. It's it happens 188 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: almost every team. You lose three games in a row, 189 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: but you rarely get shut out three games in a row, 190 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: particularly at home, particularly the first three games of the season. 191 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: So again, no way would I say tomorrow is a 192 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: must win but it just might be a must score. 193 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: That force you here on sports Funk KBR my good 194 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: friend Steve Kroner. Of course, he writes for Baseball America, 195 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: does a great job for prospects for the San Francisco Giants, 196 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: and you can also follow him on x I say Twitter, 197 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: still at Steve Croner SF. So what does Tony Vattello 198 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: do tomorrow? Does he mix up this lineup? Does he 199 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: put some new faces in? Are you happy with Casey 200 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Schmid at first base? Do you think in Karnassion plays tomorrow? 201 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: He has to do something with this lineup. I cannot 202 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: believe he's going to throw this lineup same the way 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: for the third game. How about you? 204 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think n Carnassi oone would be at 205 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: first base. I mean that's the logical spot. Or DH 206 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: if Devers thinks if they think Devers is okay to 207 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: play first, but if Devers is still they're still hasn'tant 208 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: to play Devers at first? And I think N Karnassi 209 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Oon's got to hit in the lineup. And Bill, if 210 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, isn't he now your favorite player on 211 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: the Giants? 212 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: They're all my favorite players. Steve you know that, but 213 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. I mean, I'm looking for I'm looking 214 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: for some at bats here, I'm looking for some power. 215 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm looking for runs. Like you said, they got to 216 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: score some runs here. And you know, when you're looking 217 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: at the opponent tomorrow, Will Warren, he can pitch. He's 218 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: got some nasty stuff. And just like I was just 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: talking to Brian Hoak, they moved them over to the 220 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: right side of the rubber, which only tells me as 221 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: targets are even going to be in on right handers, 222 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: and like he was saying, the left handers couldn't pick 223 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: them up. That's a great move. If you can adapt 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: to it and throw strikes with it, That's gonna be 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: the first thing I'm gonna look at tomorrow when he 226 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: goes on the mount. He's on the right side of 227 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: the rubber, which means all his pitchers are gonna have 228 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: better movement. 229 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Well, Bill, you know, when we start talking pitching, I'd 230 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: like to ask you a few questions. How often how 231 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: often did you change your plant foot on the rubber 232 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: throughout your career? 233 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: I was off the right side because I was three quarters, 234 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: so a lot of times hitters would say you could 235 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: see my arm at shortstop because that's where my arms 236 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: are as I was arms and legs as you know, six' 237 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: five arms and legs coming at. You BUT i was 238 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: hiding the ball the BEST i. Can and that's what he's. 239 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: DOING i think that's what we're going to see out 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: of Will. Warn if you're on the right, side you 241 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: can cut that ball in right hander's, hands you won't 242 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: be able to pick it up that quick left handers 243 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: is going to be. Huge if he's coming across now, 244 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: again he's going to have a couple, good heart breaking. 245 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: Balls he still throws it in the mid. Nineties it's 246 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: going to be a hard, time especially at four Fifteen. 247 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: Steve the showers are just going to be behind the pitcher's, 248 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: mound and every time those shadows move, back the glare 249 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: comes off the scoreboard so. Much that's why The giants 250 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: have to get to him. Early we talk about it 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: all the. Time early runs always. Helps but this is 252 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: going to be a battle. 253 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll tell your bill in this. Era full. DISCLOSURE 254 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: i spent a few winnings in the press box today 255 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: AND i out to the left field bleachers and sat 256 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: with my Son tom and some of his. Friends and 257 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: this is no, surprise but when you're out there on a, beautiful, 258 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: hot sunshiny, day you can see how hard it is 259 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: for a left fielder and a center fielder at times 260 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: to see the. Ball it's not. Easy and the flip, 261 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: side as you were, saying in terms of off the 262 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: batting eye for the, hitter that sun is no fun 263 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: if you're the left fielder or the center. FIELDER i 264 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: can tell you that just trying to watch the game 265 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: from the left field bleachers for a. 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: While, well we saw that kind of On wednesday, too 267 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: because that game was kind of early evening and as 268 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: some of those Like Rafael devers got a base hit 269 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: off a ball that they couldn't see from center, field you, 270 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: know you looked At grizzolm and he was coming in 271 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: and then he just kind of slowed up and watched 272 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: the ball drop. In you, know we always talk about left, 273 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: field and we just don't Give Barry bonds that. Do 274 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: he was one of the best left fielders that ever 275 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: was at at that, ballpark and left field's probably the 276 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: worst with the sun on a day game because it's 277 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: straight and wet. Eyes and you make a good point 278 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: here when you got shade on infield and the hitters 279 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: in the. Shade now you've got to deal with the 280 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: sun coming over that that top Of Oracle. Park it 281 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: is very difficult to see how hard the ball is 282 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: hit and then how the angle's. Hit and it's going 283 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: to be a tough game. 284 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, yeah for what it's, WORTH i had a tough 285 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: time seeing judges. HOMER i didn't finally see it until 286 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: it landed maybe about forty feet from Us. JOHNS i 287 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: did not have a tough time Seeing stanton's. Homer that 288 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: one was pretty easily easily followed off the. Bat but 289 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: REALLY i had a tough time that Tracking judges home. 290 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Run so and Again I'm i'm sitting, there not having to, 291 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: move don't have a glove on my, hand if nobody 292 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: cares IF i catch the ball or not the left 293 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: field or in the center. Field playing for The giants 294 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: or The yankees or whoever else is in. Town playing 295 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: The giants on a day, game particularly one as sunny 296 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: as today, was that's no. 297 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Picnic Steve croner joining me a little longer for, SPORTSPHONE 298 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: k and b are on A. Friday The abs, boy 299 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: it's coming quick and these guys are not afraid to 300 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: question a call of balls and. STRIKES i always wondered, This, 301 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: steve and maybe you can give me your thoughts on. 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: It do you Think Tony vittello has told the players 303 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: if you want to use, it go, ahead but make 304 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: sure you're pretty close to what you're asking. For is 305 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: there any kind of strategy in, this Because i've always 306 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: thought you always wanted one in the ninth inning in 307 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: case something. Happened but what are your thoughts on THE? Abs? 308 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean first of, all up until a few years, 309 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: AGO i would have been completely against. It i'm you, 310 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Know i'm not one who even likes, Replay but to, 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: me it's the best thing about it is it's. Quick to, 312 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: me the worst thing on the replay is you're sitting 313 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: there either in the park or you're watching at, home 314 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: and it's three, minutes four, minutes and it's you, know 315 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: whether somebody caught the ball or not in the second, 316 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: inning so somebody might be at second base with two. 317 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Outs to, me that's where the WHERE i get. FRUSTRATED 318 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: i know a lot of other fans and media people 319 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: do the good thing about THE, abs it's quick and 320 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: certainly there's A i think a method to. It the 321 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: method is you better be right because if you particularly 322 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: if you if you're wrong on the first, one or 323 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: you've lost one and you have only one, left then to, 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: me then you really better be. Right or the or 325 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: the situation ought to be really. Important in other, words 326 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: it's the bases loaded in the in the seventh inning 327 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: and there are two outs and you're the hitter and 328 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: you're sure that that three to two pitch was ball, 329 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: four then then it's worth you, know the is the, 330 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: uh the risk reward is the reward is worth the 331 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: risk of not having another. Challenge but if stay the same, 332 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: thing if it's if it's the top of the, seventh 333 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: then you're down for. Nothing and it's still it's a 334 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: still three to two pitch with nobody on, base and 335 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: they call you. Out you know, what just take your 336 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: bat back to the dugout and put it in the 337 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: batrack and save that challenge of when you hope you've 338 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: got a few guys on in the ninth and are 339 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: trying to make a. 340 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: Comeback, Well stevid kind of changed that bat With Aaron. 341 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: Judge you, Know colesmith's second base and the one oer, 342 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: pitch and the second pitch he first called strike and 343 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: the thing was like zero point zero one percent underneath the, 344 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: mark and it really kind of baffled me because anytime 345 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: the ball is touching, it it's a. Strike and and 346 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: you couldn't even put a credit card in between, that 347 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: and they called the ball. Too of, course he forces 348 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: a slider in ball. Three now he's going three to 349 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: zero Against Aaron, judge and this is where the gideup. 350 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: Comes he throws a fastball strike one giddea of foul, 351 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: ball and then the three to two on the third, 352 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: fastball which kind of you, KNOW i questioned, IT i really, 353 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: Did i'm like throwing a slider. Throwing he didn't throw 354 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: one change up in the entire, game which puzzled me 355 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: because he threw so many in, spring and he challenged 356 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: him with one more fastball and it cost. Him up 357 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: until that point of the, game he was Using bailey 358 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: and him were really mixing up slider fastball very. Well 359 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: and the inning before that he only had seven, pitches 360 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: AND i thought he could have been a little more 361 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: cautious at that. Time and he challenged him and somebody asked, 362 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: me what do you think, well that's a, pitcher that's 363 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: a pitcher's. Mentality i'm going after. Him it cost him the. 364 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: Game AND i just wondered if his second thoughts of 365 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: MAYBE i should have thrown an, offspeed MAYBE i should 366 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: have thrown him a, slider BECAUSE i Think Aaron judge 367 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: was sitting. 368 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: Fastball you, KNOW i don't know about pitch, selection BUT 369 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: i did lead a quote From robby rich when he 370 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: asked him whether the you, know the challe and changed 371 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: the bad or or was the reason That judge was 372 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: able to hit the over and he said, no he 373 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: said he got back in the. Count that wasn't that 374 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: wasn't the. Problem but you know the problem was he 375 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: challenged him with a pitch that That Aaron judge hit 376 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and shows Why Aaron judge. IS i, MEAN i think 377 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: you can say right now he's one of the great 378 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: hitters in the history of the. Game he's done it 379 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: long enough, now both obviously in power but average. Too 380 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: Aaron judge. Is you, KNOW i wouldn't put him at 381 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: the very top of hitters of all, time but he's 382 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: he's right, there certainly for sae since since the turn 383 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: of this, century since two. Thousands, Yeah Aaron judge might 384 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: be the best hitter that there's been in. 385 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 2: BASEBALL i agree with. You and he hits for average. 386 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: Too that's the toper part of. It you, know the 387 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: top three hundred, hitter and he puts the ball and play. 388 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: RBIs i, mean he's a machine up. There when you 389 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: start thinking about the number as he puts up, there 390 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: and it's one year after. ANOTHER i mean when you're 391 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: looking at a three thirty one batting, average fifty three 392 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: home runs one hundred and fourteen RBIs last year and 393 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: the year before three twenty two with fifty eight home 394 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: runs one hundred and forty four. RBIs he's, consistent and 395 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: he's thirty three years, old and this is some of 396 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: the things you start thinking. About he's getting better as 397 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: he's getting. Older he knows the strike zone so. Well and, 398 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: boy he's that guy in the middle of the. Order 399 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: he's batten, third and he's the guy that's gonna sit 400 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: on so much bat and. SECOND i, apologize, Yeah and 401 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: he's that kind of guy when when the lineup turns, 402 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: over you're Like harry comes. Again and those are those 403 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: guys back in my, day you just. Questioning you're, like, 404 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: boy here he comes To Tony gwinn's always putting the 405 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: ball and, Playing Bill madlock always putting the ball in. 406 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 2: Play and it seems like always those guys come up 407 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: in certain, scenarios and he did it. 408 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: Today, yeah and look as great a hit her As 409 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: tony gwyn was, Hitters Bill madlock. Was neither of those 410 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: guys had the power That aaron. Judged, now he's not 411 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: quite the average, hitter certainly The gwynn. Was and you, 412 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: KNOW i haven't looked just throughout the top of my, 413 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: head But judge's career average might be close To, madlock 414 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: and Mad dog was a great. Hitter but as much 415 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: As i'm sure it was frustrating or difficult for you 416 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: to try to go against those, guys think of those 417 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: guys With Aaron judge's, POWER i would really get your 418 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: stomach rattling a little. 419 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: Bit it sure does. Well, Steve thanks again for joining 420 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: me on A. Friday you'll be jumping On friday nights 421 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: with me as we continue this, season looking forward to win. 422 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: Tomorrow but, again thanks for your, Time. 423 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: Steve, Hey, bill IF i could interject one thing BEFORE i, 424 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: go and we're talking about people who who've left, us 425 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: we miss with The giants honored. Today there was a 426 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: very good friend of mine in the sports, community man 427 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: Named art De lugach who was a longtime sports producer at. 428 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Kpix he AND i work. Together he as great As 429 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Wayne walker, was And god Rest wayne. Soul one of 430 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: the Reasons wayne was great was Because art De lugas 431 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: was his sports. Producer art passed away yesterday at the 432 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: age of eighty. Two and just want to give my 433 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: thoughts to his family and all those of us who 434 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: used to work AT kpix who are definitely saddened By art. 435 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: Passing, yeah he was a special man for, You, steve 436 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: no question about. It but thanks again for your, time 437 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: And i'm so glad you brought that up a lot 438 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: of special people that passed, away and he's definitely won 439 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: in your. Life, okay we're gonna wrap up a sports 440 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: PHONE Kmbr friday. Night see if what we're gonna see 441 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: tomorrow at four, fifteen first pitch right here ON. KMBR 442 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: i want to thank my guest, Tonight Brian, hoak he 443 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: co writes FOR mlb Dot com for The New York, 444 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Yankees traves Cy, Chicawa Steve, kroner all those will be 445 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: on the Podcast Camby. Podcast if you missed any of, them, 446 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: Tomorrow i'll be right on with an extra inning postgame. 447 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Show following up the, Game Ron gidry got a great 448 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: interview with him And Kirk. Casally we're going to find 449 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: out what his new task is going to be With Buster. 450 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: POSEY i want to thank my Producer Kyle. Harr coming 451 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: up next will be Dubbs ot With John dickinson And 452 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: Kyle harr For BILL laski have a great. Night more 453 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: coming up next ON k AND Br The Sports leader