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Speaker 2: Tomorrow and we got a short show. F P.

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Speaker 2: Said yesterday that was so negative. Well, the Giants won a.

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Speaker 1: Game, all right, Hey, you want my overreaction for this morning,

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Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen ever. Period.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, maybe somewhere in between that. But it is

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Speaker 2: JD, how are we doing, my man? The Giants with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's a great opportunity for Web individually too, Not

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Speaker 4: What a starting pitcher gets their first win to, you know,

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Speaker 5: That's kind of a matchical.

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Speaker 1: your text, your thoughts at eight owaight, K and BR.

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Speaker 1: Jad The question that you threw out to us right

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Speaker 4: dominance against that lineup in that spot where the Giants

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Speaker 4: were feeling desperate. I think for a win with the

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Speaker 4: pressure mounting. That's a big time start and a big

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Speaker 4: time performance for a young pitcher, and probably more so.

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Speaker 2: Due to the fact that the lead wasn't getting extended.

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Speaker 1: It was great to see Beader take advantage of that

444
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Speaker 1: curve ball get the first home run of the year,

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Speaker 1: and then Bailey and Schmidt at the bottom of the

446
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Speaker 1: lineup adding on a couple of more RBIs to make

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Speaker 1: it three nothing. But you're kind of hoping for the

448
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Speaker 1: sake of not only landed Rup, who is getting his

449
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Speaker 1: first start of the year, but for that bullpen, which

450
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Speaker 1: is gonna get talked about so much throughout this season.

451
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Speaker 1: You're hoping for everybody's sake that the Giants can maybe

452
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Speaker 1: get all fourth or a fifth because they are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to win a lot of close games. I think

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Speaker 1: that's early takeaway that we observed here coming up the

455
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Speaker 1: top of the show, and for lands and Roup to

456
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Speaker 1: not necessarily get that extra cushion of comfort, it showed that,

457
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Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't really much margin for error. In fact,

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Speaker 1: kind of noted with the Ryan Walker situation, which we

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Speaker 1: will get to coming up in a little bit that's

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Speaker 1: one where yeah, he had the margin for aer to

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Speaker 1: not have a great outing. He's still got the save,

462
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Speaker 1: but he gave up those two home runs. So if

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Speaker 1: you take that in consideration with the fact that Rupe

464
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Speaker 1: had to be nails, Gauge had to be nails, and

465
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Speaker 1: Keaton Winn had to be nails, and the Giants you

466
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Speaker 1: were hoping they could have got more than three since

467
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Speaker 1: it happened also early. It was the first time they

468
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Speaker 1: threw the first punch as an offense, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that they were able to take advantage of it, I

470
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Speaker 1: think Bo's for a very different conversation today and puts

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Speaker 1: a lot more praise on the starting pitching and certainly

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Speaker 1: those first two relievers.

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Speaker 4: Get the lead, play clean, have the bullpen come through,

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Speaker 4: you know, and win, you know, win, even though it

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Speaker 4: feels like it might slip away late. Like all of

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Speaker 4: those things have been, you know, a part of this

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Speaker 4: team's DNA here for quite some time. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: even going back to like the championship days, although I

479
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Speaker 4: guess you probably could, but the way that these teams

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Speaker 4: have been built here, even in just the last five

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Speaker 4: or six seasons, going back to let's say post COVID.

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Speaker 4: When the Giants have won, for the most part, it's

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Speaker 4: been with the great pitching, with the timely hitting, playing clean,

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Speaker 4: and then having the bullpen be nails to hammer it down.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't exactly nails in the ninth inning.

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Speaker 4: It got a little shaky, but again to your point,

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Speaker 4: they had the margin for error, and I think overall,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Walker, aside the bullpen to this point, you know

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Speaker 4: now that they've actually done it in a game where

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Speaker 4: they had a lead and a little bit of pressure.

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Speaker 4: Although you'd certainly rather have the three to nothing lead

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Speaker 4: than say a two to one lead or a four

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Speaker 4: to three lead in a ninth inning or an eighth

494
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Speaker 4: then a ninth inning where a team only needs to

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Speaker 4: get one against you. The bullpen has been I think,

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Speaker 4: again small samples eyes through four games, but a pleasant surprise,

497
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Speaker 4: and that.

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Speaker 1: Was their first big test, more importantly, because they finally

499
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Speaker 1: got the chance to have a lead to protect, and.

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Speaker 2: Collectively they did do enough.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned the first two and then obviously we'll get

502
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Speaker 1: into the Walker's side of it, but collectively they did

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Speaker 1: do enough to pass that very first test. By the way, also,

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Speaker 1: I mean Pottery's lineup. Yeah, they got a lot of dudes.

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Speaker 1: And when we went through the whole build of a

506
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Speaker 1: power hitter and looking up and down this league and

507
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Speaker 1: the type of hitters that all the starting pitching is

508
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Speaker 1: gonna have to face, I mean, that was not an

509
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Speaker 1: easy lineup to hold down for a good eight innings,

510
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Speaker 1: and yeah they made you pay a little bit in

511
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Speaker 1: the ninth. But you mentioned it's not just Tatisa Machado

512
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Speaker 1: like I feel like Croninworth in particular. I looked up

513
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Speaker 1: his stats against the Giants for his career and it's

514
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Speaker 1: nothing all that crazy.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like.

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Speaker 1: Jake Croninworth has a knack for the timely hit against

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Speaker 1: the Giants and did it so many times last year

518
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Speaker 1: when remember this is a Potter's team that beat you

519
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Speaker 1: ten times out of thirteen, and in those ten games,

520
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Speaker 1: it felt like there was a lot of just beaten down,

521
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Speaker 1: particularly that series at home when the Giants felt like

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Speaker 1: they hit rock bottom there late in the summer mid August.

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Speaker 4: So eight to eight can be are four one five

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Speaker 4: eight oh eight five six two seven? How are you

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Speaker 4: feeling about.

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Speaker 3: This team now?

527
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Speaker 4: Is we continue to learn more about them? They get

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Speaker 4: the three to two win last night against the Padres

529
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Speaker 4: one and three, big start for Logan Web to try

530
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Speaker 4: and see if he can put them in position to

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Speaker 4: make it two in a row. And the Padres are

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Speaker 4: reeling a little bit here to begin the season. They

533
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Speaker 4: are also one in three and looking vulnerable for a

534
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Speaker 4: Giants team that last year only beat San Diego three times.

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Speaker 4: You've already got one third of the amount of head

536
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Speaker 4: to head victories as you had all of twenty to

537
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Speaker 4: twenty five. Can you make it another one tonight and

538
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Speaker 4: really take advantage of the fact that the Padres appear

539
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Speaker 4: to be off to a cooler start, with you know,

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Speaker 4: different manager and a little bit of a different vibe

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Speaker 4: than maybe we've seen surrounding them in the last couple

542
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Speaker 4: of years. I think the Giants belief that they can

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Speaker 4: be contenders in part is root greg in the fact

544
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Speaker 4: that the Padres maybe aren't going to be as good

545
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Speaker 4: as they've been here the last couple few years, and

546
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Speaker 4: the Giants have a real opportunity, I think, now getting

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Speaker 4: the jump in the series to really put it to

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Speaker 4: them and maybe make them be the team that winds

549
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Speaker 4: up in a hole that.

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Speaker 3: Certainly they could dig themselves out of.

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Speaker 4: With all that talent that we just mentioned, but make

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Speaker 4: them feel it a little bit in a different universe

553
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Speaker 4: and see if you can't use that to get the

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Speaker 4: jump on everybody, not name the Dodgers, at least in

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Speaker 4: the nl West.

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Speaker 8: Roope throws swing and a miss. He struck it out

567
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Speaker 8: another high fastball and Cronowerot tried to check his swing

568
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Speaker 8: at the last moment, couldn't do it. He was too

569
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 8: far gone. Seven strikeout for Roop was kind of that

570
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Speaker 8: exploding fastball up around the lettering on the shirt of Cronenworth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Land and Roops striking out cronin Worth

572
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Speaker 1: for the second time last night, and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of breaking news as the Giants get their first win.

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Speaker 1: Land and Rupe himself will be joining Dirty Work today

575
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Speaker 1: at two fifteen, so shortly after we sign off instead

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Speaker 1: of doing all my post production duties, and I'd have

577
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Speaker 1: to put that on pause because Land and Roope is

578
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Speaker 1: going to be the star of the show for the

579
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Speaker 1: Dirty Work Boys. It was great to talk to Land

580
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Speaker 1: and Roop with Derek when the two of us were

581
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Speaker 1: out at FanFest, Like definitely one of those more reserved

582
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Speaker 1: and shy personalities, but just being able to chop it

583
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Speaker 1: up with him a couple of minutes before we all

584
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Speaker 1: took the stage, I think brought him out a little

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Speaker 1: bit to where he had a good personality with us.

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Speaker 1: And he's the kind of guy that is so incredibly serious.

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00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: Like I was always poking fun at different players JD

588
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: saying like try to get them to draw themselves out

589
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: a little bit and give the fans like a little

590
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: knowledge in the clubhouse about everybody's game day approach and

591
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Speaker 1: who would be the type of person you wouldn't want

592
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Speaker 1: to talk to, and who's the type of person that's

593
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Speaker 1: a total jokester.

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00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: And like you know, with football, we see this so much.

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00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: With the forty nine ers, there's like the Mike Evans

596
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey level of locked in, and then there's

597
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Speaker 1: also the George Kittle level of just like joyous, vibrant

598
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: personality where it doesn't make one right and one wrong.

599
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: It's just there are different levels of i should say,

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Speaker 1: different ways of getting to this level and different types

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Speaker 1: of personalities that can encapsulate any kind of competitive greatness.

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Speaker 1: And Landon Roop was one of those guys that all

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Speaker 1: of his teammates were telling us he's the type of

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Speaker 1: guy you just don't talk to on a day that

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Speaker 1: you got to start. It felt very justin Verlander esque

606
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Speaker 1: from last year. And by the way, Orlander was pitching

607
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Speaker 1: for the Tigers last night as he's got that homecoming,

608
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Speaker 1: so that was kind of fun to got monitor that

609
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Speaker 1: one to get lit up a little bit. Didn't have

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Speaker 1: the Giant he had the Giants run support esque as

611
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Speaker 1: well from last year. But we're focused on the present

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Speaker 1: and Rupe was one of those guys and I finally

613
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Speaker 1: told him when we got a little more comfortable with him,

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Speaker 1: I'm like dude, all your teammates were kind of calling

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Speaker 1: you out for just being a guy like you absolutely

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Speaker 1: do not want to talk to, and he acknowledged it

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Speaker 1: and was like, Yeah, usually on a day where I'm pitching,

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Speaker 1: you just leave me alone.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to acknowledge you.

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Speaker 3: I love his mentality, I really do. I shocker.

621
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Speaker 4: I like a guy that's a little bit more serious

622
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Speaker 4: in his demeanor on the mound. But no, I think

623
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Speaker 4: he's got He's got an attitude and a confidence and

624
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Speaker 4: a focus to the way that he pitches that that

625
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: is beyond I think the path at which you know

626
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Speaker 4: he took to get to the major leagues, and I

627
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Speaker 4: guess you kind of have to have it.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, there's an edge that you.

629
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Speaker 4: Can see to Land and Groupe that you know why

630
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Speaker 4: people in the in the front office would would like

631
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Speaker 4: him and and why you'd want to give him, give

632
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Speaker 4: him opportunities and have a belief that he's somebody that

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Speaker 4: could be extremely successful at the at the big league level.

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Speaker 3: So I know we all we all love that.

635
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Speaker 4: You need the balance of personalities, right, You need the

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Speaker 4: guys that keep it loose, You need the guys that

637
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Speaker 4: are that are super focused.

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Speaker 3: You need everything in between.

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Speaker 4: But I've just been impressed, Uh, whether it's been a

640
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: quality outing like last night, which which was exceptional, or

641
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: even an outings where he challenged UH at different points

642
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 4: you know last year and and you know got hit

643
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: around a little bit. I just like the mentality that

644
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Speaker 4: that he has, in the focus that that he brings

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Speaker 4: to the table on a on a game and game

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Speaker 4: out basis.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I thought about last night

649
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Speaker 1: when I throw out the question of can be that

650
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Speaker 1: reliable number three starter this year in the rotation as

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Speaker 1: the season progresses. That was back to our conversation a

652
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when we so did our state

653
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Speaker 1: of the Union on young foundational pieces within the Bay

654
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Speaker 1: Area teams. And obviously you got the Sharks who are

655
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Speaker 1: entirely on one end of the spectrum after being at

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Speaker 1: the bottom for six years.

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Speaker 2: You've got the Warriors side of it, where it's like.

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Speaker 1: Well they've got Steph and maybe Jimmy comes back, and

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of older players they're relying on.

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Speaker 1: But as far as a young foundation, they don't really

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Speaker 1: have anything there. The forty nine ers have a quarterback,

662
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Speaker 1: but a lot of their other best players are older.

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Speaker 1: And then for the Giants, I compared them to the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers in the sense of there's still a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that we need to see what they

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Speaker 1: evolve into.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not implying that based off of one start Land

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Speaker 1: and group is automatically going to be an all star

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Speaker 1: level pitcher or he is going to be part of

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Speaker 1: a young foundation. But if he continues to grow and

672
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Speaker 1: have outings like this in addition to what you expect

673
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Speaker 1: from Web, what you expect slash hope from Ray over

674
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Speaker 1: the course of this whole season, then that all of

675
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Speaker 1: a sudden could be a very pleasant surprise for a

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Speaker 1: team that maybe second place within the division is within reach.

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Speaker 2: It's very very early in the season to where I

678
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of the division.

679
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Speaker 3: Right.

680
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Speaker 1: Last year, the whole NL West minus the Rockies started

681
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Speaker 1: really hot, to the point where Papa and I were like,

682
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Speaker 1: are there going to be four playoff teams from this division?

683
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Speaker 1: Then you saw things kind of even out on the

684
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Speaker 1: Arizona and San Francisco front. Right, it is so early,

685
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Speaker 1: but it does make you think if the Padres are

686
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Speaker 1: more poised to take a little bit of a step

687
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Speaker 1: back from what they've been the past couple of years.

688
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks still don't have enough pitching to consistently get

689
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Speaker 1: into the high eighties on wins, and the Rockies, I

690
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Speaker 1: think we can say are still a ways away. Maybe

691
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Speaker 1: that does open the door for somebody like a roup

692
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Speaker 1: to be a surprise piece that can give the Giants

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Speaker 1: more wins and a better standing in their division and

694
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Speaker 1: the NL wild card than people might have pegged at

695
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Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, and it's still I think a little

696
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Speaker 1: too early to tell me it isn't the NHL or

697
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: if you finish second in your division, you automatically get

698
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Speaker 1: a playoff spot. And you know there are other divisions

699
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Speaker 1: that maybe can can get in there and sneak all

700
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Speaker 1: of those those wild card spots in the NL West.

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Speaker 4: Other than the Dodgers off to a bad start. Also,

702
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Speaker 4: by the way, shout out to Macklin Celebrini, the sixth

703
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Speaker 4: teenager in NHL history with one hundred point season as

704
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: he ends up with the multi point game and the

705
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Speaker 4: Sharks back to back to winning the crazy ones last

706
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Speaker 4: night out of the Tank where they're behind and then

707
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Speaker 4: they're ahead and then they blow the lead and then they.

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Speaker 3: Win it when it late, they're not dead.

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Speaker 4: But quick shout out since you mentioned the Sharks to

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Speaker 4: to Macklin as they continue their long home stand to

711
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Speaker 4: try and make a final playoff push only two points

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Speaker 4: out of the final spot there in the Western Conference.

713
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think, look, this team is gonna can

714
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Speaker 4: can Roop be the number three guy? I think he's

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Speaker 4: got the stuff for it. To me, the question is

716
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Speaker 4: just gonna be the durability. And I think that's really

717
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Speaker 4: the big question as it relates to the back end

718
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Speaker 4: of the Giants rotation overall is not so much a

719
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Speaker 4: question about talent as much as it is questioned about durability.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Roupe missed some time with the the

721
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Speaker 4: elbow inflammation last year and then also had the bone

722
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Speaker 4: brus as well to kind of close out the season

723
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Speaker 4: when he pitched at Petco there in August. So to me,

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Speaker 4: it's more about, you know, can he accept the physical

725
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Speaker 4: challenge of being somebody that can go out there and

726
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Speaker 4: consistently throw you know, five six innings, you know, like

727
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Speaker 4: he did last night. Maybe not shutout innings, but where

728
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Speaker 4: he's allowing one or two runs consistently with those strikeout

729
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Speaker 4: numbers and have the ability to, you know, do it

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Speaker 4: thirty times, you know, or do it twenty five to

731
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Speaker 4: thirty times.

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: That to me is the question beyond the talent and

734
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Speaker 4: the makeup for Land and Roup. I think I think

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Speaker 4: he's got the talent and I think he's got the

736
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Speaker 4: makeup to do it. It's just a matter of will

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Speaker 4: the body hold up anyway?

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Speaker 1: Can be are four and five eight to eight, five, six,

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Speaker 1: two seven to join the conversation all day long. We

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Speaker 1: are here with you up until two o'clock and then yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: that's right, we're back on the short show schedule. That's

742
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Speaker 1: gonna be happening about once a week here, depending on

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Speaker 1: what it is for the Giants. So we got a

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Speaker 1: twelve ten pregame for you tomorrow. As Adrian Hauser, the

745
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Speaker 1: one starter we have not yet seen, is gonna get

746
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Speaker 1: his first crack at it again because of the multiple

747
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: off days, Logan Web is gonna jump right back in

748
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Speaker 1: and get the start tonight, which is a chance for

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Speaker 1: the Giants to make it two in a row and

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Speaker 1: then maybe Hauser could get up there with the chance

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Speaker 1: to finish off the series. But we don't want to

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Speaker 1: get ahead of ourselves. It is one game at a

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Speaker 1: time and not even thinking about the Mets, Phillies or

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Speaker 1: that big road trip thereafter. It's Papa in Silver with JD.

755
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Speaker 1: And when we come on back, we're gonna start diving

756
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Speaker 1: into some sound. Tony Vaitello spoke with Wet Hair after

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Speaker 1: he got the beer shower in the postgame ceremony, and

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Speaker 1: then Mike Kruco was on this morning with Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Marcus that also wanted to get into the uncomfortable conversation

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Speaker 1: from last night. Landon Roup was great, the first half

761
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: of the bullpen was great. The closer positions still one

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Speaker 1: they gotta figure out. And another reminder that Randy Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: is not available in the twenty twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more sound on these sports later.

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Speaker 1: It's Papa and Silver. Good to be with JD hanging out.

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Speaker 1: We got Waltz. We've got my mystery package again. Go

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Speaker 1: recorder and whatever else may be in store for I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's an April Fools prank. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's any stern misconception or a good old scam,

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Speaker 1: but we are having some fun with it this week.

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Speaker 2: So got to make the most of life, right, a

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Speaker 2: hospage of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, forward to it.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm certain to actually blame Walter Less

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Speaker 1: the more obscure things come in, because I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: actually does him no good at this point.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we are getting back into it. We got some

786
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Speaker 1: sound for you. Tony Vitelo gets his first win. What

787
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: are we gonna do about the closer situation? And JD,

788
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Speaker 1: I know that you also are all about the people.

789
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Speaker 1: And we've got the Golden State Lumber and Showroom text

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Speaker 1: line in addition to the phone line, so anytime people

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Speaker 1: want to shime in, hey, we're here for you from

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Speaker 1: ten to two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the people on the Golden State Lumber

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Speaker 4: Showroom text line at eight to Waight KMBR four one

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Speaker 4: five wrote j D was pretty critical of the idea

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Speaker 4: of Roup being a foundational piece for the Giants a

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Speaker 4: week or two ago. Baseball teams need six or seven

799
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Speaker 4: starting pitchers to be successful. Rup has shown enough last

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Speaker 4: year in his first start to be considered part of that. Now, look,

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00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: maybe this is semantics, but we're talking about I know

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Speaker 4: you asked the question, you know, can he be the

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Speaker 4: number three? Well, the Giants are telling you he's their

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Speaker 4: number four by the way to start the season, and

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Speaker 4: so I did want to address it. As great as

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Speaker 4: as he did pitch last night, I agree, he pitched

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Speaker 4: pretty well last year. There's a difference between being a

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Speaker 4: really good number three or number four starter and being

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Speaker 4: a foundational piece. Like, like, you can be a really

810
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Speaker 4: good number three and number four starter and not be

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Speaker 4: a foundational piece unless you're somebody that's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: a Madison Bumgarner level. Uh, you know, number three starter.

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00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: And again, you know, not all three starters are created equal.

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Speaker 4: And again at this point, roups a four just based

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Speaker 4: on the way they've ordered the rotation as opposed to

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Speaker 4: even the three with Mallley being the third guy.

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Speaker 3: But Look, it's not an indictment.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, when I say don't think he can

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Speaker 4: be a foundational piece, that that is me saying I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's a he's an ace, you know, I

821
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Speaker 4: don't think he's a one two, top of the rotation, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know type of a guy. I think that was

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Speaker 4: the conversation we were we were having, so just a

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Speaker 4: point point of clarity on that a guy can be

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Speaker 4: a pretty good pitcher and still not necessarily be a

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Speaker 4: foundational piece. I do agree with the other part about

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Speaker 4: needing you know, six or seven help. Some people would

828
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Speaker 4: tell you need more like eight or nine starting pitchers

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Speaker 4: to get through a season, and that in and of

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Speaker 4: itself is one of the question marks for the Giants.

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Speaker 4: But again, the health is also the other thing that

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Speaker 4: we touched on with Rupe as opposed to talent. You know,

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Speaker 4: can he continue to be healthy? To be a foundational piece,

834
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Speaker 4: you have to prove that you can be healthy. And

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Speaker 4: again I don't think, you know, he's been in the

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Speaker 4: big leagues long enough to say that we know that

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Speaker 4: he can't prove to be healthy. But again that's still

838
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Speaker 4: a box and I think he has to check with

839
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Speaker 4: the time that he missed last year.

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Speaker 1: Well Lands and Rupe also made life pretty easy for

841
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Speaker 1: Tony Vtello last night because one of those questions, and

842
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Speaker 1: a big jump from college to the major leagues, is

843
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Speaker 1: can you manage a major league bullpen? Well, if your

844
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: starter is going to be able to go six clean

845
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: like that, it certainly makes it easier. You got a

846
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: lefty and Matt Gage throw him out there. Keaton win

847
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: did his thing in the eighth, and then Ian Walker's

848
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Speaker 1: the guy you had set to be the closer for

849
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: the start of the season, and luckily you had a

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Speaker 1: three to one lead because then if he was going

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Speaker 1: to give up two, you still were able to close

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Speaker 1: the deal with that Bogart's ground out to short at

853
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Speaker 1: the very end of the game. Here is Tony Vitello

854
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Speaker 1: on the instant aftermath of getting his first major league win.

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00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 2: Again, I said it yesterday, I'll stick with it today.

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Speaker 1: There is nothing that Tony Vitello has or has not

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Speaker 1: done to this point that has made me go wow

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Speaker 1: and my eyes pop, and I say, I'm gonna judge

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00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: that as either he's totally the guy or he totally is.

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Speaker 2: Not ready for this job. Long, long, long way to go.

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00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: But in JD's theme of getting out of the spotlight,

862
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: hey the monkey is off everybody's back. Tony Vitello has

863
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: won a game as a major league manager, and here's

864
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Speaker 1: what he had to say about addressing his friends and

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Speaker 1: maybe even one heckler in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: When all was said and done, some guy.

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Speaker 6: Kept harassing the hell out of me, and so I

868
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Speaker 6: turned around to see who it finally was. I didn't

869
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Speaker 6: know who he was in a good way. He kept

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Speaker 6: yelling my name, so I looked right away after I

871
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Speaker 6: shook hands with Frank and you know, obviously we've got

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Speaker 6: a longer relationship there. And then, for whatever reason in

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Speaker 6: my head, if you start imagining stuff, I'd envisioned shake

874
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 6: and WASH's hand after a win. So those are the

875
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 6: first two things I did. And then you know, eventually

876
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: kind of looked looked around in the stands, Like I said,

877
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 6: a guy yelling at me. But yeah, I kind of

878
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: kind of soaked in. I mean, if you get to

879
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 6: the point in the ninth inning and you're doubting whether

880
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 6: you're gonna win, I'm just a big believer than the

881
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: odds are you're not gonna win. So with walk being

882
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 6: our guy and in the way our guys had played

883
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 6: despite the you know, obviously it was a great swing,

884
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 6: a two strike swing. Two could feel everybody just forging

885
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 6: ahead and feeling good vibes.

886
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: A little fire from Tony v hu It's not just

887
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: about the people who've been with him on this journey.

888
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: He's a thinking about the Heckler and made a point

889
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: to point back at him and give him a thumbs

890
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: up on that too.

891
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: So, look, we know this, and I know it.

892
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: You know it from our transitions, even to coming to

893
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: these sports leader and making different moves. People are very

894
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: critical of newness, and when you start zero to three,

895
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: when you don't have a great first few shows, whatever

896
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: the deal is, people are always going to be critical

897
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: of some kind of newness. And so Tony Vitello said, hey,

898
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I heard you, I see you, I'm thinking of you,

899
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: and now I have won in this league.

900
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: He needed that one badly because it was getting to

901
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: the point where it was, you know, starting to feel

902
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: and look, it's early in a major league season where

903
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 4: you know everything that everybody says about you know, teams

904
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: are gonna win sixty and teams are gonna lose sixty

905
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: and all of that, and it's what happens in the

906
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: in the other forty two games that determine your face.

907
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: Like all of that stuff is true. It's early.

908
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: It was a bad series against the Yankee like all

909
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: of those things are true. But he needed a win desperately,

910
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: and and because it was really starting to feel, even

911
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: three games into the year, as if it was snowballing

912
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: on them, and so to get the breath of fresh

913
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: air that that last night was. You know, where you

914
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: do hit a homer, and you do get a well

915
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: pitched game from from Land and Group, and you do

916
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: have some quality you know, bullpen outings from Gauge and

917
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 4: from Keat and win you know, big Big.

918
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: It's just now everybody can kind of relax.

919
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: Now now there is at least going into the game

920
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: tonight with your ace on the mound in logan Web

921
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: getting a crack at kind of bouncing back from a

922
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: bad outing where the game was over basically in the

923
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: second inning because he didn't pitch well. Like now everybody

924
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: can kind of breathe a little bit of a of

925
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 4: a sigh of relief and just go out and play

926
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 4: like I feel like today.

927
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: In many ways, he is going to feel like the

928
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: first just kind of normal.

929
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: You know, you're not coming off and off day, You're

930
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: not coming off a weird series like nobody's questioning the

931
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: first win. I think, you know, there are a bunch

932
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 4: of guys in the Giants lineup that still are struggling

933
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: to begin the year, but they get another opportunity to

934
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: snap out of it, some of these guys with with

935
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: logan web on the mound. So I do think, you know,

936
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: momentum can flip very quickly. Uh And I think the

937
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: Giants are now, you know, set up with web on

938
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: the mound to maybe get another one and then settle

939
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: into this thing. Uh and where when you lose, everybody

940
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: focuses on you know, everybody's numbers and and who's struggling,

941
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 4: and and oh for ten's and one for eleven's. Can

942
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: you know, they can really I think start to be

943
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: it'll start to be more more damning than maybe they

944
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: need to be. But when you're winning a little bit

945
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: here and there, people are less focused on the overall numbers,

946
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: and there winds up being a little bit more breathing

947
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: room to allow the numbers to kind of level off

948
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: and and and settle in. Uh So I think there

949
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: was always going to be more focus on on this team,

950
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: considering the the expectations, considering Vytello's lack of experience, but

951
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: just getting the one win to calm everything down. Now, Look,

952
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 4: they don't win to night, and guys struggle and Web

953
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 4: isn't good. Now all of a sudden we got questions

954
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: about logan Web. You know, to two starts into the

955
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: season and then they're one and four, so it can

956
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: flip back quickly.

957
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: It's just the nature of day to day in one

958
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two.

959
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: But for Tony Vaytello to feel it, for everybody to

960
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: be able to celebrate it and now just move on

961
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: to where he's just a normal baseball manager for the

962
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: time being that is trying to help this team win games.

963
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: I think that's that's good for everybody.

964
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that you thought this thing was snowballing,

965
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: or it felt like it was snowballing, And I think

966
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: part of why is because Tony Vitelo is an emotional guy.

967
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's a problem with that whatsoever,

968
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: But you could feel the weight of each one with

969
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: all the opening festivities and you had the night and

970
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: then the day and then you fall to zero to

971
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: three and Aaron Judge is hitting homers and it's like, oh,

972
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? And you got an off day on

973
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: Sunday to let it process even further. And then we

974
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: all react to it on a Monday, right, and all

975
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: the comments made about there being a lot of try

976
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: hard and maybe he pumped up the team a little

977
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: bit too much with speech, and then there was the

978
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: whole Robbie Rays and Tony Vytello are at odds, which

979
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Ray was necessarily refuting Tony Vitello. I

980
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: think he's just saying like, yeah, we're all big leaguers,

981
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: we can handle the emotions of this.

982
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: But look for Tony Bytello.

983
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: This is going to be part of the challenge this

984
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: year in terms of navigating the highs and lows. Like

985
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: last year was the ultimate highs and lows journey of

986
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: a roller coaster en route to eighty one and eighty one,

987
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: a baseball season is gonna have a lot of moments

988
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: where it feels like you are just down to the dumps,

989
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: you cannot get a hit, nothing's going your way, and

990
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, a couple things are gonna

991
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: go right. You're gonna get into a bit of a

992
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: routine and a rhythm, and it's gonna feel nice and breezy.

993
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long journey with one sixty two

994
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of media and a lot of the routine.

995
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: And some days it's gonna feel easier getting up and

996
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: doing this thing and like it's just so smooth.

997
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: In other days it's gonna feel really really hard.

998
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: For a manager who wears his emotions on his sleeve,

999
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be one of the challenges that I

1000
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: don't want to say not talked about, because I think

1001
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: we've all known he's authentic and he's emotional, and we've

1002
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: all seen the clips of him being all raw ron

1003
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: and running into the crowd at Tennessee. But just managing

1004
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: that part of it's certainly going to be one of

1005
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: the big challenges of making this jump.

1006
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 4: Well, I haven't since that he's been over the top

1007
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 4: with any of it, to be honest. I know he

1008
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: mentioned the speech, you know that maybe got the guys

1009
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: a little bit a little bit too amp to come

1010
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: out and play big early. But I don't feel as if,

1011
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: you know, Tony Vaytello has been the person that's put

1012
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: too much pressure on the players to come out and

1013
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: have it feel like when things are not going well

1014
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: that it's potentially snowball. I think it's just the nature

1015
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: of his higher I don't think it's necessarily anything that

1016
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: he's done. I just think it's the nature of the inexperience,

1017
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: the unconventional, the belief that when things don't go well,

1018
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: it's like, well, why would you you know, as I've

1019
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: said a bunch of times, like why would you think

1020
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 4: that it if things don't go well, it's obvious to

1021
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: point out, well, why would anybody think that it would

1022
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: go well? When when you do something is unconventional? To me,

1023
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 4: it's more been about that kind of stuff than it's

1024
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 4: been anything that that Vitello has done. Like, I don't

1025
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: think he's had a single you know, managerial gaff. He's

1026
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: shuffled the lineup a little bit, you know, game game

1027
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: two to game three, game three to game four, he

1028
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 4: shuffled the lineup a little bit.

1029
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: You know.

1030
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: One of the big concerns coming into the year that

1031
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: I had was the fact that, you know, even if

1032
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: this Giants team performs well in areas that they're expected

1033
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: to one area that that can make or even if

1034
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: they perform all at areas where maybe they're not expected to.

1035
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: I think it goes both ways.

1036
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 8: You know.

1037
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: The one area of a baseball team that can make

1038
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: a manager look bad is a bad bullpen. And so

1039
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: to me, as much as you know you think they're

1040
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: gonna hit, they haven't really hit yet. You know, I'm

1041
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: pretty optimistic about the starting pitching. It's been I think,

1042
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: mostly mostly good to this point. Logan Logan webs outing

1043
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: aside to begin the year. But the one thing that

1044
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: can make an already you know, inexperienced manager with question

1045
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: marks look worse.

1046
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: Even if it's not his fault, is a bad bullpen.

1047
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: So to have the guy and I was concerned frankly

1048
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: that the Giants don't have enough quality arms in that

1049
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: bullpen to where they they could be good and the

1050
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: roles we're going to get shifted around at all of that,

1051
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 4: And you know, I think the one thing that we're

1052
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: maybe seeing here in the ear and it's early but

1053
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 4: is maybe the Giants have a little more talent in

1054
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 4: that bullpen, which at least is going to give him

1055
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: a chance. In Vitello to be able to manage it

1056
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 4: and figure out some roles. And look, you know, Gage

1057
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 4: was solid, Keaton Winn was flat out dominant. Like he

1058
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: looked again, small sample size, like a future closer, you know,

1059
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: with that split it. So you know, I think that's

1060
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 4: an early Again we don't know the firm answer, but

1061
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 4: something that gives Vitello a better chance to succeed and

1062
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: not not maybe get caught in some uncomfortable moments.

1063
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: Would be if the bullpen can can be good.

1064
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: But that's all in the lead up to Ryan Walker,

1065
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 4: who really struggled, and again the Giants got.

1066
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: A little bit lucky potentially in that ninth inning.

1067
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 4: As refreshing as last night was, and you say, get

1068
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 4: the monkey off your back and all of those things

1069
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: in web tonight, they did not escape their first win

1070
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: of the year without having a question mark surrounding a

1071
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: position that is extremely important if you're gonna win games

1072
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: on the margin and win close games, and that's the

1073
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: closer spot.

1074
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: Well, that's our perfect segue into our next piece of sound.

1075
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: That was from Mike Kruco, who was on with the

1076
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: Morning Show. So typically it's a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but

1077
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: Morning Show because of some schedule shuffling had double trouble.

1078
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: Kype joined them and Croup joined them, and Kruk was

1079
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: honest about Ryan Walker and the fact that he was

1080
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: missing a.

1081
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: Little bit high.

1082
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: And look, the microscope is on Ryan Walker right now

1083
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: as it relates to the bullpen, because that was the

1084
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: case even going into the season. It's not on Tony

1085
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: Vitello using Ryan Walker yet, but that could change real

1086
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: quick if we continued to see outings like last night,

1087
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: stack up, blown, save or otherwise. Here was Mike Kruco

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Speaker 1: this morning talking about Ryan Walker and how he just

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Speaker 1: isn't quite in command of the zone, missing a little

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Speaker 1: bit high, and we saw those first five pitches all

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Speaker 1: go for balls. Immediate lead off walk, never something you

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Speaker 1: want to see from your closer.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's an issue. I don't think he's comfortable with

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Speaker 5: that spot. And I think that because of how big

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Speaker 5: it was to the team and how big it was

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Speaker 5: to his manager. I think that you know he pressed

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Speaker 5: if you look at him, and you know he's really

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Speaker 5: unique because of his big crossover step. He's only got

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Speaker 5: two pitches a two s basketball and slider.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 5: When he's affected, he's able to hit corner and he's

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Speaker 5: able to establish a knee high location very quickly. When

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Speaker 5: he's not comfortable, he'll miss high. And then you know

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Speaker 5: he's got swing and he's got push in his delivery,

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Speaker 5: and he just he's not letting it go. And that's

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Speaker 5: what I saw last night.

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Speaker 1: When I hear the words not comfortable, that's raising some

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Speaker 1: alarm bells for me immediately, because a closer needs to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable in the most uncomfortable spot in all of sports.

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Speaker 1: They need to be the one making the batter's uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: If you're out there and you're not comfortable, and let's

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Speaker 1: say you get a lead off walker, maybe you're even

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Speaker 1: close to hitting a guy like we saw with Walker

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Speaker 1: last night, all of a sudden, that's just giving the

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Speaker 1: batters momentum, and particularly when you're doing it on the road. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he got the save last night, they won it three

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Speaker 1: to two. But you see how quickly it changes in

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Speaker 1: a baseball atmosphere when one swing of the bat from

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Speaker 1: Jackson Merrill, all of a sudden, a lot new life

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Speaker 1: into pet Goo Park when they'd been previously entirely shut

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Speaker 1: down and shut out by dominant pitching. Then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, yeah, the game was won out away from

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Speaker 1: being over, but there was new life, and there was

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Speaker 1: new life quickly.

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Speaker 3: There was.

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Speaker 4: And look, I think you know, there is a bottom line.

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Speaker 4: There's a question at the closer spot right now. And

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Speaker 4: when Ryan Walker has been thrust into that role in

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Speaker 4: the past, it hasn't over time exactly gone well. And

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Speaker 4: so as they try to figure out what the roles

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Speaker 4: are gonna be, and as we all can blatantly see

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Speaker 4: that this team's gonna have to be really good in

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Speaker 4: close games if they're gonna be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there necessarily can be a long leash

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Speaker 4: for Ryan Walker as the closer. Now, look to you're

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Speaker 4: gonna need him somewhere in the bullpen, even if he's

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Speaker 4: not pitching ninth innings. But there have been issues where

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Speaker 4: he's looked, to Kruko's point, uncomfortable pitching in in ninth innings.

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Speaker 4: Now he's looked uncomfortable, I think at times pitched in

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Speaker 4: seventh innings and eighth innings too. You know, big spots

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Speaker 4: can come in the game away from from the ninth inning.

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Speaker 4: But but I think you know, when you look at

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Speaker 4: the way that inning played out last night, I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's an overreaction to say that the leash would

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Speaker 4: be short for Ryan Walker now to make a switch, though,

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Speaker 4: the other part of the equation is, and look, you're

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Speaker 4: giving the opportunity to the guy first, who has the

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Speaker 4: most experience among the guys that you have available to you.

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Speaker 4: So I understand that. And he had been a closer before,

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Speaker 4: with with you know, varying levels of success. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he did have some success for a stretch as a closer,

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Speaker 4: but again as time has gone on, he's become less

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Speaker 4: and less effective in that role. So to me, you're

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Speaker 4: giving him the first opportunity, the first crack at it.

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Speaker 4: But you also, if you're going to be the best

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Speaker 4: version of yourself, can't be losing games in the ninth

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Speaker 4: inning in the manner at which the Giants could have

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Speaker 4: lost that game or at least had it tied and

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Speaker 4: thrown into extra innings. So I think the leash is

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Speaker 4: gonna be short for Ryan Walker. But for the leash

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Speaker 4: to be short, you have to have somebody that you

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Speaker 4: can go to.

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 4: And again that's where the performance of of Keaton win

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Speaker 4: UH and the dominance of that split and coming in

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Speaker 4: and striking out the side and looking really good here

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Speaker 4: to begin the year. You know that that to me

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Speaker 4: is somebody that already is kind of oh like look

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Speaker 4: at him like they you know they you know, they

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Speaker 4: made this guy into kind of a super looking reliever. Again,

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Speaker 4: it's early and he needs to continue to prove it.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's a couple of things in play

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Speaker 4: here there. There's Walker faltering, and I do think he'll

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Speaker 4: get another opportunity to close, but it's also who's the

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Speaker 4: guy that you could throw into that role as he

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Speaker 4: continues to get more comfortable, And I think Keaton Win

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Speaker 4: showed last night that that that he's got the stuff

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Speaker 4: to maybe be the next man up in that in

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Speaker 4: that situation, Uh, if you're if you're searching, and I

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Speaker 4: think we all knew the Giants Greg, we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: at different points, I think searching.

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Speaker 3: Even though the early returns are actually.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good other than Walker, I still think there's a

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Speaker 4: belief that the Giants are gonna be searching and figuring

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Speaker 4: out their bullpen on the fly over the course of

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Speaker 4: this season.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be one of those areas where we

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Speaker 1: judge Tony Vaitello in a major way as he navigates

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Speaker 1: this all for the first time, so he gets his

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Speaker 1: first win. Last night, one in three for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Logan Web on the bump tonight, looking to make it

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Speaker 1: two in a row. It is Papa and Silver. We've

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Speaker 1: got JD in the house, we got Waltzer hanging out

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Speaker 1: with you, and eight O eight K and br is

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Speaker 1: your number to join the conversation.

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Speaker 2: How concerned are.

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Speaker 1: We about the closer role and what's otherwise been a

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive start for the bullpen. We'll pick this up

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Speaker 1: when we come on back. And here one more clip

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Speaker 1: from Mike Kruco. It's Papa and Silver on the Sports Leader.