1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: on the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: John, based on the last hour, do you think Tom 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Steyer is going to be buying any ads anytime soon? 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: On KABC or KSFO. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: I like Big. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: He should He's not in the top two right now. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Hey, you got to put your face in your name 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: where people aren't already paying attention to you. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I just edited something that I was going to say, 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and you should be very proud of me. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: I am so proud. I like it Big. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: the telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: two two two. Yesterday we had Dan Walters on the program, 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: who's the dean of the Sacramento Press Corps, columnist in 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: cal Matters, longtime observer and writer on California or in 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: your politics, and he talked about a university study that 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: took place at you see Santa Cruz that took a 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: look at the minimum weight for fast food workers in 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: California that is now at twenty dollars an hour, and 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: they tried to figure out just exactly what impact that 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: would have on the fast food industry, and what they 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: found was it caused more automation to happen. Now, when 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: you go to a fast food joint, you'll probably order 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: it a kiosk or on an app on your phone. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: You'll probably pay on your phone as well. Some of 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: these shops have robots doing the cokes, filling the cokes, 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: whereas in the old days it would be someone there 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: with the cup at the coke dispenser filling your cup 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: up with soda before they handed it to you. Those 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: jobs are now gone in many places. They found that 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: there are fewer workers working in the fast food industry 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: because of the autumn, they don't need the same number 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: of people, so people are getting laid off. And they 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: also found that even though there are fewer people working 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: in that industry, prices continue to skyrocket. So for the consumer, 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: even though budget cuts usually mean cheaper prices, that's not 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: what happened. You're getting less service now when you go 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to a fast food joint, and you're paying more for it. 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: By any objective standard that fast food that twenty dollars 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: an hour. Fast food regulation at fast food restaurants in 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: California has been a complete and utter disaster, a disaster 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: for the industry, a disaster for the employees, and a 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: disaster for the consumer. So therefore, after reading that report, 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: a group in Alameda County thought, let's raise the minimum 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: wage to thirty dollars an hour. 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: Here. 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: You remember when Barber Lee was running for Senate, she 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: said we should have a fifty dollars an. 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: Hour minimum wage. 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, oh yeah, well, we're not going that far. 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: But labor groups in Alameda County say it's too expensive 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: to live there, except in East Oakland, but it's kind 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: of dangerous. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: Kind of. 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: Do you can get a place for four hundred k? 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that being said, it's very expensive to live in 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: Alameda County. So that's why they want a thirty dollars 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: an hour minimum wage across the board. 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: For more on this, we go to NBC in the. 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: Bay dat to help people make it in the Bay 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: as we talk about more stories about affordability for you. 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: This morning today at the Bay is Barbaradelle joining us. 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: Live in Alameda County, So, Bob, this is where we're 67 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: seeing a demand for a thirty dollars an hour minimum wage. 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Correct. 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: So later today at noon during a press conference and 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: group of workers and members of the community and labor movement. 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: It's a labor union. That's always a labor union doing this. 72 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're the ones with the microphones and the 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: media contacts and the know how of. 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 5: Workers and members of it. 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: It was the labor union representing airport, food service workers 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: and hotel workers to get the minimum wage for just 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: those industries jacked up to thirty dollars by twenty twenty 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: eight because Olympics in Los Angeles, and apparently that's got 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: every other labor union in the state a little jelly bread. 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Well, because the Democrats control all of these cities, and 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: many of them are elected with backing from the unions, 82 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: how can they say no. 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: Of workers and members of the community and labor movement. 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: They're going to announce they are filing a new initiative 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 5: to ask voters here, specifically in Alameda County, to pass 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: lot I would pay people who work at grocery stores 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: like the one behind me and other businesses and restaurants 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 5: thirty dollars an hour. 89 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: That it's going to be a ballot initiative. Oh boy, 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: there's going to be so many things on the ballot 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: this year. 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: It is going to be so confusing. 93 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: Well, and how many totally destructive things are going to 94 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: be on the ballot too, But because you know who 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: is going to write the title in summary, at least 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: for the state wide ones, people are going to be 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: confused and you're going to be tricked into voting for 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the most destructive thing imaginable. 99 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: I know who, Bob bonta. 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: Thirty dollars an hour. That'd be the minimum wage they 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 5: are asking for voters to pass this this November. If 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 5: past large businesses we're talking about businesses with one hundred 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: plus employees one hundred million dollars on revenue would have 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: to pay that thirty dollars an hour minimum wage by 105 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: twenty thirty. 106 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: Which means even the janitor at Kaiser is going to 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: be making thirty bucks an hour. 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: Chu ching plus employees one hundred million dollars on revenue 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 5: would have to pay that thirty dollar an hour minimum 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 5: wage by twenty thirty to every worker in Oakland and 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 5: here in Alameda County. Small businesses, those with twenty five 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: or fewer employees would have ten years to hit that 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: thirty dollars minimum wage. 114 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if the big businesses have to do it. 115 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: The small businesses are going to lose all their employees 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: unless they go up to thirty as well. 117 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just think this through here for a second. Okay, 118 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: what's the number one concern among California voters right now 119 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: headed into this scubernatorial election. 120 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: Afordability. 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: That's right, And affordability is determined by a number of factors. 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: But let's just focus on one particular thing. Let's talk 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: about Kaiser because Kaiser is based out of Oakland, and 124 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: we know that Kaiser is an important employer in that community, 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: a big employer. 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: So let's say that the. 127 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: Minimum wage now goes to thirty dollars an hour across 128 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the board. That means the people who are sweeping the 129 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: floor get thirty dollars an hour, the people who are 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: answering the phones get thirty dollars an hour, the people 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: who are doing medial tasks get thirty dollars an hour. 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: If you are someone with an education, and you are 133 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: someone with some kind of specialized degree, because not all 134 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: of them are doctors, you have various healthcare professionals with 135 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: various degrees, various titles. In between the doctors at the 136 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: top and the people that sweep the floors. At the bottom, 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: you have people who are X raytex, you have people 138 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: who are physical therapists. You have different degrees of nurses, 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: and not all of them make thirty dollars an hour. 140 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: So if suddenly you're paying the nurses the same as 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: the janitors, what do you think. 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: The nurses are going to do next? 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: Because they have to have a license, and they have 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: to have college degrees, and they have to have resumes 145 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: and experience, and they have to have a clean record. 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: If they don't have a clean record, they won't hire them. 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: What do you think they're going to do? Well, of course, 148 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: they're going to demand a raise. And how about if 149 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: you're an X ray tech and you have an education, 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: and you have responsibilities that are beyond sweeping the floors, 151 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and you now get paid the same as the guy 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: who's sweeping the floors, you're going to demand more money. 153 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: And across the workforce, everyone is going to demand more. 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: And when the nurses get paid more, the doctors are 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: going to say, now, wait a minute, why is it 156 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: that there's not a whole lot of daylight in between 157 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: us and the nurses. We need to raise and. 158 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: Across the board. 159 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: Everyone's going to get a raise because everyone's going to 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: demand one in that community. It's a heavily unionized workforce. 161 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of non union employees at 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: a Kaiser facility. Okay, so everyone gets the raise. Well, 163 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: that's wonderful. We're happy for them. The doctors get paid more, 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the nurses get paid more, the ex rat texts get 165 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: paid more, the people who sweep the floors get paid more. 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Everyone gets paid more. What could go wrong? Well, you 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: show up to that facility and you're going to get 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: sticker shocked what everything costs. 169 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: Now. 170 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: I know the economics are different at Kaiser than they 171 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: are for PPOs and HMOs and Medicare and other forms 172 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: of insurance, but the costs are going to skyrocket. Your 173 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: healthcare costs, which I'm sure you probably already think are 174 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: too expensive now for what you get, are going to 175 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: shoot through the roof. And if they try to contain 176 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: those costs, or they try to make it so it 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: doesn't cost as much as it otherwise would, what are 178 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: they going to do. They're going to limit the number 179 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: of services that you are eligible for, or they will 180 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: lay people off, or they will just say, we're not 181 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: covering X, Y, and Z, so it's going to cost 182 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: you more for less. That's what's going to happen if 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: the minimum wage suddenly shoots up to something ridiculous like 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: thirty dollars an hour. 185 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, and not only that specifically, when you're talking about Kaiser, 186 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: it was just yesterday that a whole bunch of Kaiser 187 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: employees had a one day strike because they're upset that 188 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: Kaiser is adding so much AI that's replacing jobs. And 189 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: there's plenty of jobs at any hospital organization that could 190 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: be done by AI. Do you think this is going 191 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: to accelerate that process? Because I do, Oh yeah, and 192 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: think about it. AI is coming, and of all the 193 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: industries that exist, that one is probably gonna get hit 194 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: the hardest because let's just say you're a radiologist and 195 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: you're looking for cancer on a skin. What do you 196 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: think is going to be more accurate? AI technology or 197 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: forty six year old eyes. 198 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: Currently, the minimum wage in anlomated county is just under 199 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: seventeen dollars an hour, Oakland just over seventeen dollars an hour. 200 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: The organizers they call themselves Oakland Analomated County living way. 201 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: There's also something that you have to think about. And 202 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: the fast food workers found this out the hard way. 203 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: It sounds great, and look, I understand it's very expensive 204 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: and these are hard jobs. But when you get bumped 205 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: up that much, all of a sudden, you're now paying 206 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: taxes all of a sudden, you don't qualify for a 207 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: lot of the benefits that you did qualify for, including medical. 208 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and in some cases you're gonna get bumped 209 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: into a new tax bracket. 210 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 5: Organizers they call themselves Oakland and Alameda County Living Wage 211 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 5: for All campaign. They cite the MIT Living Wage Challenge calculator, 212 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: which we checked online, and it does show that in 213 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: a two parent, two child household, both parents must work 214 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: and each must earn over forty four dollars an hour. 215 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: And this is the other thing. Even if this goes through, 216 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: and we've seen these go through in Los Angeles, it's 217 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: still not enough to live comfortably. So there's still going 218 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: to be a whole bunch of people complaining that it's 219 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: too expensive to live here, and by a whole lot 220 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: of other circumstances, it just got more expensive. 221 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 5: They cite the MIT Living Wage Challenge calculator which we 222 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 5: checked online, and it does show that in a two parent, 223 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 5: two child household, both parents must work and each must 224 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: earn over forty four dollars an hour to cover the 225 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: basic cost of living here in Alameda. 226 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: County unless you want to live in East Oakland. Just 227 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: do all on East Oakland. It's fascinating, you might recall. 228 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: Los Angeles already requires hotel and airport workers to be 229 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 5: paid thirty dollars dollars an hour by July twenty twenty eight. 230 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, that one is so strange because 231 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: if you work at a restaurant, you don't qualify for 232 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: that thirty dollars an hour. But if you work at 233 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: the restaurant inside a hotel or the chilis to go 234 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: at lax, now you qualify for thirty dollars an hour. 235 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: There is no way people can understand these insane rules well. 236 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: And the unions do this on purpose. 237 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: They've realized that they cannot at the ballot box just 238 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: raise the minimum wage for everybody for everything, because it 239 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: does not it hasn't passed. It failed the last time. 240 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: So what they've learned to do is get municipalities like 241 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: Los Angeles with their DSA city council putting forth these 242 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: minimum wages for specific categories, and then you're petting workers 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: from different industries against each other because if the fast 244 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: food workers get twenty then the nurses say, well, we 245 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: need to get twenty five, and the hospital workers say 246 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: we need to get this. It's a never ending fight. 247 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: And that's what goes on at every single city council 248 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: meeting in la and I'm sure the same thing is 249 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: going on in every other major city in the state 250 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: as well. 251 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Here's the other issue, and you mentioned AI technology, it's 252 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: not just AI technology that's a threat to these sorts 253 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: of laws. When the cost of living gets to the 254 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: point to where no one can afford to live there, 255 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: or you can't afford to live there comfortably. Let's say, 256 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: because this is going to bring everyone down. They think 257 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: it's going to lift everyone up. It's going to bring 258 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: everyone down because it's going to cause the cost of 259 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: goods and services to go up across the board. But 260 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: not everyone gets the raise. In the old days, you 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: pretty much had to live where your job was, and 262 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: there were very few exceptions to that. My grandpa lived 263 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: in the same city as his job. He couldn't live 264 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: in another city or a state. It just wasn't possible. 265 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: He didn't have a computer, he didn't have a smartphone. 266 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: There was no internet at the time that people had 267 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: access to. That didn't exist. My dad had to live 268 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: where he worked, although he lived in a different county. 269 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Think about the jobs that exist today. I don't live 270 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: in the same county as my job. I work from home. 271 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure the generations after me will probably have access 272 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: to the ability to work from home or to work remotely. 273 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: You go on a cruise ship these days and you're 274 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: at a port that's one of these ports that the 275 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: cruise ships go to all the time. You go to 276 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Cosmel or whatever, and you go to one of these 277 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: bars that shut down on the ship. 278 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: What do you see. 279 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: It looks like a Starbucks in a big city where 280 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: you have people with their laptops out and they have 281 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: their headphones in and they are working a job that 282 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: is in some other city, and they are on a 283 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: cruise ship, but they are working their job. States and 284 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: cities do not have a monopoly on their population anymore. 285 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Where you can't move, you can't go someplace else. The 286 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: nature of how people of how people are working is 287 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: changing and with so many people working remotely or working 288 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: from home, or however you want to call it, checking 289 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: in on an irregular basis. They can move wherever they 290 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: want and they don't have to stay there and live 291 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: in that misery. 292 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: And I think that's part of. 293 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: The reason that you're seeing so many people flee the 294 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Blue states. The governor of New York just recently was 295 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: on camera telling former New Yorkers who left the state, 296 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: do the right thing, do the patriotic thing. Come back, 297 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Go to Palm Beach, find your friends, tell them to 298 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: come back. 299 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: We have generous social. 300 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Services here, but if the rich people aren't here to 301 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: pay for it, we're going to collapse. So you need 302 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: to get them to move back to New York. And 303 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: she was begging them two years ago. She told them 304 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: to get the hell out, and now she realizes she 305 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: can't do what she wants to do without the money 306 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: being there. And you don't own that money. That money 307 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: is very mobile. Those jobs are mobile. People can leave, 308 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: and they are and not just people but businesses. Yamaha 309 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: is leaving California. Elon Musk left California, Peter Tile left California. 310 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Chevron is writing letters to the state legislature and the 311 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: governor saying they're about to go have options. And I 312 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: don't think that these unions fully understand that. And they 313 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: think because they control the politicians that make the decision decisions, 314 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: they hold all the cards, and they don't because guess what, 315 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: if your tax base leaves, you may be able to 316 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: make the decisions, and you may be able to control 317 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the politicians that are in the positions of power. But 318 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: if there is no money, there is no money. There's 319 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: no money. Honey dollars an hour. 320 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: By July of twenty twenty eight, New York City considering 321 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 5: thirty dollars an hour for workers in that city. You 322 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 5: might recall that Back in twenty twenty four, however, Californians, 323 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: by a slim majority, did say no to a ballot 324 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: measure that would increase the state's minimum wage to eighteen 325 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 5: dollars an hour. 326 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: I think it was eighteen plus. It would go up 327 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: with inflation like the gas tax, which would have been fascinating. 328 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I am shocked. We voted it down. 329 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: Over concerns that they would increase the cost of goods 330 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: and services. Here's a quote from the co executive director 331 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 5: of the Black Organizing Project we'll be speaking of today's 332 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: news conference today. Quote, it is an incredibly expensive expensive 333 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 5: to live in the East Bay. Many people, especially black people, 334 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: are no longer to afford able to afford to stay. 335 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: This is unacceptable. So we're putting living wages on the 336 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: ballot in twenty twenty six. 337 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: I don't know why they had to bring race into it, 338 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: but there you go. 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Time for the California crime blodder and Randy. 362 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: This one involves the world's oldest profession. 363 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: A police officer in Hayward has been buck for taking 364 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: bribes and free trips to the brothel he was protecting 365 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: from law enforcement. Uh oh, wonder if he had a 366 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: punch card for mar Here is KTVU Fox two in 367 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: the Bay. 368 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 7: In Hayward tonight, a veteran police officer is facing charges. 369 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 7: He's accused of protecting a local brothel. In exchange, he 370 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 7: was given both money and free access to sex workers. 371 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: So it was for money and barter. 372 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: You figured they just take the whole thing out in trade. 373 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: But he also got cash, although maybe that was just 374 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: an insurance policy for him, because sure, sure, sure, you 375 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: can get of all the trips to the brothel you want, 376 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: but at some point you're gonna have to go to 377 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: the doctor and get treated for crabs, and that costs 378 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: cash money. 379 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: And apparently it was worth his pension. 380 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 7: In exchange, he was given both money and free access 381 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 7: to sex workers. Our crime reporter Henry Lee first broke 382 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: that story and joined us live from the department with details. 383 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 6: Henry Claudian. Investigators say they matched up this Hayward officer's 384 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: visits to the brothel with surveillance photos and his own 385 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: text to the woman who helped run the operation downtown. 386 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: You know, for a veteran police officer, this guy's not 387 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: too bright. 388 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: I wonder who sold him out. I bet you he 389 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: was a bad tipper. I bet you he thought because 390 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: he got the services for free, he didn't have to tip, you. 391 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: Have to tip. 392 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 8: I've always thought that was like a legitimate business or something, 393 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 8: because I see like it just looks a legitimate teams quiet. 394 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 6: This was, indeed wants a business in a quiet part 395 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: of downtown Hayward, But the Alameda County Prosecutors say it 396 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 6: was far from legitimate because it was an illegal brothel, 397 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 6: and Hayward police officer Benjamin Yarborough, who's the brother in 398 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: law of the top cop, has been charged with accepting 399 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 6: one thousand dollars bribe and free access to sex workers 400 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: in exchange for the the officers promised to protect the brothel. 401 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: Now, when you are figuring out the charges to go 402 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: after this guy, do you have to put a muddy 403 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: value on all the free sex. 404 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: That he had? 405 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: You might have to, I guess. 406 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: Because this could go to a very, very very big 407 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: charge depending on how many times he took them up 408 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: on this. Well, one thousand dollars isn't a very big bribe, No, 409 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: it's not. 410 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: In exchange for the officer's promise to protect the brothel, 411 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: which operated under the radar near Maine and Warren Streets. 412 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 9: I've never seen any I. 413 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: Wonder how many. 414 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: I don't think this is that prevalent, but I wonder 415 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: how often it does happen where because there are so 416 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: many businesses that it is obvious that it's a whorehouse, massage, parlors, anybody. 417 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: And why is it that nobody's taking them down? Why 418 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: is it that these places are not getting shut down 419 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: or busted. Could it be that one the city likes 420 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: the business taxes and two someone in law enforcement's on 421 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: the take. 422 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh, it's not just law enforcement. I'm sure it's code enforcement. 423 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the electeds. I'm sure it's the people 424 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: who work for the electeds. It's everyone. And you think 425 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: about that. 426 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: If you're the proprietor of the whorehouse, you're the madam, 427 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: you're the pimp. Think how much horing you have to 428 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: give away for free just to make sure that everyone's 429 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: off your back. 430 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Randy, it's called gentlemen's massages. 431 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 9: I've never seen any activity like that. 432 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 10: So we walk by here every day. 433 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: Alejandro Gerabe, who lives in the area, is in shocked. 434 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 6: But did wonder what the business formerly known as flame 435 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 6: ac Wellness was all about, especially Acu Wellness. 436 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's code that sounds medical to me. 437 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 6: Especially because it was open for twelve hours a day, 438 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 6: seven days a week before it closed last year. 439 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: These places are not hard to spot. 440 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: You can't find an urgent care that's opened that much. 441 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 6: The buildings now for sale. 442 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 8: Sometimes I do see like guys like walking in and out, 443 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 8: But like I said, maybe it's just like just like 444 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 8: businessmen like, I don't know what they do. I thought 445 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 8: like maybe there's some sort of like ac or Mays, 446 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 8: sort of like plumbing. 447 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: Yalbro's been a yeah, that's what they were doing. They 448 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: were doing some kind of plumbing. 449 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: Ac or Mason sort of like plumbing. 450 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: Ylbro's been a Hayward officer for about twelve years after 451 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 6: working as an officer in Modesto. I've learned Yarbrough's wife 452 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: is the sister of Hayward Police Chief Brian Matthews. 453 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: Oh, this just got a lot more awkward. 454 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what Thanksgiving is going to be? 455 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: Like? Oh, wait a. 456 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Minute, Easter's right around the corner. 457 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't think he's invited. 458 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 6: I've learned Yarborough's wife is the sister of Hayward Police 459 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 6: Chief Brian Matthews. In a statement, the chief said, in part, 460 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 6: any criminal you. 461 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: Know at least he saved money on Christmas gifts because 462 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: this holiday season he got his wife HPV. 463 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: Any criminal conduct on the part of any Hayward Police 464 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: Department employee will not be tolerated, regardless of any personal 465 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 6: relationships that may exist. The dast and core documents y'allbro accept, 466 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: I mean. 467 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: I got to imagine that the police chief is going 468 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: to do everything he can to ruin this guy now 469 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: because he screwed over his sister. 470 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if he did the guy a favor 471 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: by bringing him over from Modesto in the first place. 472 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: The dast and core documents, y'arbro accepted ten one hundred 473 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 6: dollar bills in a red envelope. 474 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: That's not suspicious, not at all. 475 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: The dast and core documents. Y'allbro accepted ten one hundred 476 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: dollar bills in a red envelope from a woman that 477 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 6: runs the brothel and use both as personal and work 478 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 6: cell phone, so Range for free sexual services. 479 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: He this is why you need a burner phone. It's 480 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: not that complicated. 481 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if the madam had an app. 482 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: So he's using his work phone, which is the phone 483 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: he has with the department that you would imagine is 484 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: subject to public records and all kinds of access to 485 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: scheduled dates with the prostitutes. 486 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Well, if your brother in law is the police chief, 487 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: you feel like your bulletproof. And if you feel like 488 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: your bulletproof, you get real sloppy. 489 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 6: And use both as personal and work cell phone Sorange 490 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 6: for free sexual services. In exchange authority, say he promised 491 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 6: to provide protection, investigate. 492 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: Competing hopefully he wore protection. 493 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 6: Probably not in exchange authority, say he promised to provide protection, 494 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: investigate competing brothels, and provide intel about law enforcement activity. 495 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 496 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: So not only is he making sure that if anyone 497 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: sniffing around this brothel, he makes her to shut down 498 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: that investigation. He probably was like the guy responsible for 499 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: shutting down all the other brothels in Hayward. 500 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like both he and the madam requested 501 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: the combo. 502 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 6: Platter investigate competing brothels and provide intel about law enforcement activity. 503 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 6: The officer allegedly wrote in a text quote, I don't bust, 504 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: I protect and keep safe. 505 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: Don't say anything, I protect. 506 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 6: And keep safe. The woman in turn agreed in a 507 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: text that the officer was quote a dirty cop. 508 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: And I love that these people put all of this 509 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: in writing too. 510 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 6: Yep, these women work at a dentist office next door 511 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 6: to the brothel. 512 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: We were so surprised, I mean, by people are getting 513 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: drilled at both places. 514 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: We were so surprised, I mean we kind of had 515 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: a feeling based on their hours. 516 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: Legitimate places that do acupuncture, that do cop therapy, that 517 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: do massages are not open until eleven o'clock at night, 518 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: and they usually don't have black bars on the windows, 519 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: and they usually not in a strip mall. 520 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying so hard to be good, but it. 521 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 7: Was definitely. 522 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: Kind of a shock once we it was cleared out. 523 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: Now the officer's attorney and the mayor Hayward decline a 524 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 6: common Today, the forty year old woman tied to the 525 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 6: brothel has been charged by Santa Clara County prosecutors with 526 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 6: pimping at a sister location in San Jose, where this 527 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 6: investigation first began Live and Hayward Henry KTVU Fox two years. 528 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: So she had a franchise going and or she got 529 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: busted at the San Jose location, and that's how they 530 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: found out about the Hayward location. 531 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Okay, if you're that business minded and you're willing to 532 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: take out a franchise, why not take out a Chick 533 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: fil A. 534 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: She was probably making more than you can make on 535 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: a Chick fil A. 536 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Probably eight hundred two two two five two two two 537 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: is a telephone number. One eight hundred two two two 538 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: five two two two. If you'd like to email the show. 539 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: You can do so at Johnny don't like show at 540 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail 541 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: dot com. And Randy eremonitor in the mail bag. 542 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: This one comes from someone who liked to remain anonymous. 543 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: I wonder why, no, wonder happy endings are so expensive. 544 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: It's all those complimentary sessions for corrupt government officials. They 545 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: got to make it up somehow. 546 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: All right, it's time to reopen the California crime Blodder's 547 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: Cash's dummy. 548 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: We shouldn't make this stuff up. If we tried, I said. 549 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 11: Hell no, briny boy, let me get up one out 550 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 11: of here. 551 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: It's the California Crime Blowder and Randy. 552 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: This one involved a domestic dispute. 553 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: A wild crash in Covena has some very interesting backstory 554 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: because it wasn't an accident. It was a husband trying 555 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: to run his wife down with his car. 556 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that violates some of the vows. 557 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: For more, here's ABC seven Eyewitness News in Los Angeles. 558 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 8: Meantime, we have new details on a destructive crash early 559 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 8: this morning on the streets of Covina. 560 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 9: Investigators are telling us four people were hurt when a 561 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 9: husband trying to chase down his wife caused a five 562 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 9: car pile up. 563 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: I now, obviously he's in the wrong here, and this 564 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: guy is a buffoon and a jackass and could have 565 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: killed his wife, and I think the daughter was in 566 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: the car. But I do want to know the last 567 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: thing she said to him. 568 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like this guy might be a match 569 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: for Tiger Woods. 570 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 9: X eyewitness news reporter said, Garcia's live in Covina with 571 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 9: more on how police track that suspect down sid. 572 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 11: The intersection here at Cyprus and Hollibek has been clear. 573 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 11: But man, what a message looked like early this morning 574 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 11: and that suspect to police say caused the crash he's in. 575 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 11: This was the scene around eight o'clock this morning when 576 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 11: Covena police arrested the man they say caused the crash 577 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 11: that sent four people to the hospital. He was hiding 578 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 11: a short distance away in the backyard of a house 579 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 11: when residents informed police that he was wandering around their homes. 580 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: Hey, there's a bloody guy in my backyard. Can you 581 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: get him? 582 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: Well. 583 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Covena is still one of these cities that answers nine 584 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to one one calls. 585 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 11: Covena PITIPD got the call just before six this morning 586 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 11: of this horrific crash. Security video provided to us from 587 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 11: a couple of neighbors shows the suspect running behind a 588 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 11: house moments after the crash, and in another sequence, the 589 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 11: suspect is seen wandering around the neighborhood not far from 590 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 11: the intersection. Some two hours after the crash, the suspect 591 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 11: was taken into custody. Five to six cars were involved 592 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 11: in this horrific crash. 593 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: Here's what we know. 594 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 11: Covina police telling us that this is a domestic violence incident. 595 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh boy, you know what that means? John? 596 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: What's that? 597 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: This is a nonviolent crime? 598 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: How would you like to be the marriage counselor of 599 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: this couple? 600 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 11: What Kavina Peds put together so far is that the 601 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 11: suspect was chasing his wife at a high rate of 602 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 11: speed in his car at the intersection of Hollibuck and Cyprus. 603 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 11: He allegedly rammed his car into his wife's car. A 604 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 11: wife and her teenage daughter inside the car was inside 605 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 11: the car with her. A wife's car flipped over on 606 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 11: its side. Other cars were involved in this crash and 607 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 11: you can see the wreckage. 608 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: If the thing she said before was I'm leaving you. 609 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: She was in the right, boy. 610 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: This is full on dukes of hazard. 611 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 11: Four people were taken to the hospital and according to police, 612 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 11: they were transported with non life threatening injuries. We spoke 613 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 11: to the neighbors who shared their surveillance video with us. 614 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 11: They described what they heard and saw. 615 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 12: I just came out and I saw all the cops 616 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 12: and you guys running out that way the backyard. So 617 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 12: I ran over there and everybody started pointing this way. 618 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 12: I said, oh, my house. I had the door open, 619 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 12: so I came to look, and next thing I knew, 620 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 12: he was right next door, hiding behind the gate. The 621 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 12: cops got a mountain. 622 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: Hey, I found him. 623 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: This may be one of those cases where they're better 624 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: off single. 625 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 12: It's crazy. I never seen this here before. 626 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 10: I heard somebody on the side of my house and 627 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 10: so I looked checked my camera. 628 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 3: It was him. 629 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 10: So he was on the side of the house. He 630 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 10: had been watching the officers from the fence over there, 631 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 10: and then he went around to my backyard. And at 632 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 10: that point that's when I, you know, I have my 633 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 10: son in my house, so I didn't want to just 634 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 10: leave him by himself, so I. 635 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: By the way. 636 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Just to make this even worse than it is, if 637 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: you picture the scene here, he is chasing his wife 638 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: in a car, he crashes into her, which causes a 639 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: massive six car crash. Then as everyone's injured waiting for 640 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: help to get ambulances and do get transported to the hospital, 641 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't try to help his family that he just hurt. 642 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: He runs and hides in the neighbor's yard. 643 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, imagine if you were someone that just got sucked 644 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: into this drama. When you're out running your errands, you know, 645 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I little do you know? You're right in the middle 646 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: of the War of the roses. 647 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 10: You know, I have my son in my house, so 648 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 10: I didn't want to just leave him by himself. So 649 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 10: I ran to the front of my house on the 650 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 10: porch and I yelled at the media that was here 651 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 10: to get the police over here. And the police went 652 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 10: over there and they were able to get him. 653 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: I guess. 654 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: So there you go. 655 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: That's what happened in Covena, where a disgruntled husband tried 656 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: to run down his wife with a car, causing a 657 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: major accident that he himself got hurt in and he 658 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: got busted. I don't think they're going to make it 659 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: to the next anniversary. 660 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, after hearing this story, the first thing that 661 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: popped into my mind was that I'm glad Liza Minellie 662 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: doesn't drive. Do you remember reading those stories when she 663 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: and David Guest divorced one another? Why don't you remind us? Okay, 664 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: So these are his claims, which she disputes. But he 665 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: claimed that she used to drink vodka and that the 666 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: vodka gave her superhuman strength, and when she would drink 667 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: that vodka and get the superhuman strength, she would want 668 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: to fight them and she would beat the living hell 669 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: out of them. That's what he claimed. 670 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: Well, if those allegations were true and she was busted 671 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: for domestic violence, it's good to know that domestic violence 672 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: is a nonviolent crime in the state of California. 673 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: Well, I think she has a bad hip. She has 674 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: a hitching her gidde up, so I don't think that 675 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: she drives anymore, certainly not a stick shift. But could 676 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: you imagine her and a car chasing him down the street. 677 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: That would be a sight, Although I doubt that one 678 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: would happen in West Colvina, might happen someplace else. 679 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 680 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: What it is about domestic disputes that just makes them 681 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: as nasty as possible. I'm sure it's because they you're 682 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: capable of loving someone a lot, you're capable of hating 683 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: them a lot too. So if you decide that they 684 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: have disrespected you or wronged you in some fashion, then 685 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: I guess to getting even takes on a life of 686 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: its own. 687 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes when a relationship ends, one person wants out, the 688 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: other person doesn't want out, and that's where it gets 689 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: real ugly, real fast. 690 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: And then sometimes one of them once the other one 691 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: hosed off the grill of their car. That happens occasionally. 692 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: That apparently happened recently in West Covina. What are you 693 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: going to do? Don't do that, kids, Divorce is an option, 694 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: and that won't cause your auto insurance to go up.