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Speaker 1: Dirty work with you On a Monday afternoon, Adam Copland

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Speaker 1: deepop Tim Web with the Giants pregame coming up at

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Speaker 1: five six forty, first pitch there.

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Speaker 2: Are You're gonna run into these people? Ready for this?

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Speaker 2: These people? Yeah? I know you would go, yeah, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean more people? What do you mean you people?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Nine two five chicks in on a Golden State lumber

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Speaker 1: and sure room texts on I want to get into

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Speaker 1: this replacement ref thing just a minute here. Nine two

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Speaker 1: five says, please stop ragging on the coach. What are

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Speaker 1: you trying to do? Get everyone in the bar to

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Speaker 1: hate the guy? Cut them some slack. They played one

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Speaker 1: series against a really good team. How many games did

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Speaker 1: you think we were gonna win? I just hope the

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Speaker 1: coaches are not listening to you guys on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Got some bad news for you. Then they all are

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Speaker 1: right now in San Diego streaming his line from the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: Ron Washington Love.

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Speaker 1: Streams life from the clubhouse, or as Tony would call it,

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Speaker 1: the locker room.

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Speaker 2: He's big on the locker room.

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Speaker 3: He locker room.

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Speaker 1: He's done it a couple of times already. Yeah again,

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Speaker 1: it's where he comes from. First of all ninety five. No,

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Speaker 1: I'll rag on whatever I want to rag onaway, And

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think i'm ragging on them.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm riffing a bit.

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Speaker 1: I've also said numerous times they played a damn good team,

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Speaker 1: a team I expect to be, if not in pretty

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Speaker 1: damn close to the American League Championship series. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't even have Garrett to Derrek Cole right now.

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Speaker 1: They don't even have a Carlos redone right now. They've

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Speaker 1: got an electric bullpen. They've got an insane lineup and

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Speaker 1: it's going to continue to get better. That lineup's not

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Speaker 1: even totally healthy. How many games did I think they'd

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Speaker 1: win this series? Or how many games do I think

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Speaker 1: they'll win this year? Because I've said this already a

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Speaker 1: bunch of times coming into the season, I don't have

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Speaker 1: confidence in.

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Speaker 2: Them being a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Yet I've demanded the be one because I don't think

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Speaker 1: we should have to continue to wait. It's not my

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Speaker 1: fault that the team's twelfth or thirteenth and spending. It

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Speaker 1: is partially due to all of us that they're fifth

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Speaker 1: in revenue, So why are we not spending?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Am I ragging on the manager.

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Speaker 1: It's my job every day to talk about how the

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Speaker 1: giants perform and how my opinion on what it is

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Speaker 1: that I see. And I'm going to keep this in perspective.

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Speaker 1: I'm not out here saying fight or Tony Vitelo. I'm

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Speaker 1: not out here saying this is never gonna work. I've

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Speaker 1: not said that once. All I've said is, boy, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a long year if this is the way

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Speaker 1: he's reacting to every loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I say.

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Speaker 1: I even said I don't even have any managerial problems.

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Speaker 1: I question a couple of things. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would have made a big difference. It's interesting he didn't

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Speaker 1: go to a right handed hitter when when Tim Hill's

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Speaker 1: out there against Junghuley. It's interesting he didn't have Harrison

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Speaker 1: Bader drop a bunt down. It's odd a little bit

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Speaker 1: that he let Robbie Reggae go back out there for

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Speaker 1: the sixth inning. The postgame pressers have indicated he doesn't

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Speaker 1: totally have a grasp of how to handle these things

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Speaker 1: after a loss, especially when there's no real rhyme or reason.

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Speaker 1: So instead of Bob Melvin, he just sat there and went, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: He just kept going.

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Speaker 1: So I don't mind that you've got a different opinion,

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Speaker 1: But I also you haven't heard a thing we've said,

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Speaker 1: if you think all I'm doing is ragging on Tony Vaytello.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting here ragging on the fact that Willia

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Speaker 1: Domas is in the leadoff spot because he told us

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Speaker 1: two days ago he was over swinging, swinging too hard,

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Speaker 1: gripping a little bit and missing, so we're dropping him

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Speaker 1: down to the six. He gets one hit, pulls him

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Speaker 1: in the ninth for a pinch runner, and then says, today,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you're my leadoff guy, even though he

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Speaker 1: struck out a third of the times last year.

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Speaker 2: He's the manager. He makes these decisions when they don't work,

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Speaker 2: I have a right to question it. So am I

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Speaker 2: ragging on him now?

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Speaker 1: But I do question why things are being done because

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Speaker 1: it's not the way they went about spring training.

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Speaker 2: They didn't build the lineup this way before.

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Speaker 1: Plus you just had the most production, albeit one run

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Speaker 1: and nine hits from a lineup that you shook up

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Speaker 1: and put out there two days ago. Why change it now?

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Speaker 1: So I've heard your rag before, you can you can

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Speaker 1: tell me all you can tell me all you want.

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Speaker 1: I'm ragging on him. I'm kind of having fun because

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Speaker 1: I don't take the first week of the season all

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Speaker 1: that serious. No, I know, this isn't indicative of anything else.

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Speaker 1: If this were the forty nine ers, they were rowing three,

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Speaker 1: I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh boy, it's over. Well that's the falls three

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Speaker 2: weeks of football. We're talking about you. That's it. That's

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Speaker 2: a big chunk of the same exactly. I've I've heard

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Speaker 2: you rag before, and last year.

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Speaker 4: I thought they was ragging on Melvin Privy. I thought

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Speaker 4: he was we got into it. There was moments where

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Speaker 4: I even wondered, like is he the right guy for

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Speaker 4: this job? But I also wonder should have been more

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Speaker 4: of a criticizing the players. But it's fair to say

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Speaker 4: that Tony vai Tello's lineup today is weird. It's fair

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Speaker 4: to say that some of the things he said in

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Speaker 4: press conferences.

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Speaker 2: Are weird too. But we're not blaming him at all

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Speaker 2: for what happened this weekend.

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Speaker 1: By the way, how about going on and three and

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Speaker 1: this guy is like, Yo, they look good, stop it,

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Speaker 1: stop it.

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Speaker 2: What did you think they were gonna win those games?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I mean, not all I never thought they were gonna

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Speaker 4: like not even though they didn't win them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's how they exactly, Dude, it's not that they

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Speaker 1: didn't hit.

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Speaker 2: At all, getting swept by the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: That's not anything to be like so ashamed of to

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Speaker 4: start the season setting records offensively for Low's Yes, that

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Speaker 4: that's that's embarrassing. And I do think the forty nine

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Speaker 4: are the the Giants will get out of their funk

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Speaker 4: care when it comes to their offense because it can't

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Speaker 2: It just can't.

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Speaker 4: But it's fair to say, like, what the hell you

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Speaker 4: doing today with this lineup? Willie A Domas? He was

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Speaker 4: so bad that you put him in the sixth spot

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Speaker 4: and now he should be leading off. Luisa Rises not

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Speaker 4: a four hitter to me, I have no idea what

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Speaker 4: he's doing there, but well, here today's v and find

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Speaker 4: out you put it.

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Speaker 1: You put a non on based guy in the leadoff spot,

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Speaker 1: and you put a non power or driving runs guy

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Speaker 1: in the four all it makes me be like, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm a lot to be like, Yo, what up?

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Speaker 2: What was that about?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's experimental and maybe it pays off, but it's

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Speaker 4: it's fair for us to be like that was going

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Speaker 4: on here Tony, but for the the woes on the field,

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Speaker 4: that's the players.

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Speaker 2: It's the players, it's.

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Speaker 5: The tella didn't ground out when it was first and

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Speaker 5: third and nobody out exactly. But the also the idea

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Speaker 5: of like this guy kind of figuring out in real time,

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, but I want you to.

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Speaker 2: Figure it out.

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Speaker 5: It was also fair for us to raise an eyebrow

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Speaker 5: and go, this is unconventional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is that criticism? I don't know. And it's and again, and.

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Speaker 1: It's also ninety five for me asking how come you're

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Speaker 1: taking owner Like, I get the whole I want my

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Speaker 1: guys to take ownership. For sure, you're the guy at

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Speaker 1: the helmets on you, but it's also on Buster. But

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Speaker 1: also not every game is on the manager. So game

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Speaker 1: two to be like And the reason he put it

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Speaker 2: I hyped him up too much with that speech. They

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Speaker 2: were just so hotium motivated by me. I tell you look, I.

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Speaker 1: Got I gotta get them stau the whole thing about

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Speaker 1: they were even I coudn't eve see it. They were

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Speaker 1: squeezing the bat a little tight.

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Speaker 4: Man Logan Web was like geeking out. I was like,

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Speaker 4: calm down, man, calmed down. I'm like, how were we

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Speaker 4: so amped up? But the Yankees were out there scoring

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Speaker 4: seven off a logan WEF. I can only imagine when

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Speaker 4: Drew Gilbert's called up, It's like everybody calmed down. Jesus

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Speaker 4: here Tony Vitetelo's that control. He's got a control.

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Speaker 2: Everybody calmed down.

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Speaker 1: Eight three one says he put him in the leadof

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Speaker 1: spots to control his swing. He said that sometimes he

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Speaker 1: swings too hard and he's trying to do too much.

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Speaker 1: Putting him there can help him focus on a contact swing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but he set all of that on Saturday guys a

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Speaker 1: spot for that exact reason, right, So why does that

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Speaker 1: change today? Right after he had a hit in the

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Speaker 1: six pot, putting him there to let him focus on

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Speaker 1: the contact swing, put him a we rise in the

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Speaker 1: cleanup spot to give your best average a chance to

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Speaker 1: drive in some runs. He's not a runs driving in guy, No,

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Speaker 1: he hit singles. He doesn't draw walks. Again, if this

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Speaker 1: is so smart and so logical, why didn't this happen

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Speaker 1: yesterday or on Saturday or on Friday, Like, what if

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Speaker 1: this is the logic You're taking a guy who strikes

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Speaker 1: out a third of his bats put him in the

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Speaker 1: leadof spot and I don't really get the logic behind it.

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Speaker 2: Again, it's game four.

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Speaker 1: This is not indicative of anything, but it does make

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Speaker 1: me go hmm. When even Alex Pavlovic is tweeting out,

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Speaker 1: let's get weird.

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Speaker 2: Here's the lineup for today. I didn't say that. I

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Speaker 2: said that.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, what everyone is saying right now? This

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Speaker 4: is an unconventional lineup.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's unconventional. It's not like, damn, what

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Speaker 1: is this guy doing. I'm like, Okay, I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: see what is logic is here, because so far things

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Speaker 1: he has said have not really lined up with with

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Speaker 1: the actions around what it is that he's saying. But

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Speaker 1: that's not a rag. That's me trying to understand the

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Speaker 1: logic of a new manager.

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Speaker 2: Now we're RiPP thing. We're not ragging yet. Yeah wait,

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Speaker 2: I mean wait till June. I'll be rhythm. I mean

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Speaker 2: six or.

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Speaker 5: Five zero says a nine to two Vive sounds like

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Speaker 5: he eats too many meat sticks.

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Speaker 2: Well, that'll happen sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can go to a rodeo like Derek and

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Speaker 1: you meet on a stand rod renaissance. Yeah, more people

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Speaker 1: here on the on the YouTube chats and uh, big

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Speaker 1: Alan Chino, A big Alan Chico says A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this lineup is weird. It's very weird.

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Speaker 1: It's odd, dude, just as a baseball fan and as

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Speaker 1: no one who's on the on the roster, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: And then the whole bottom four of your lineup are

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Speaker 1: But I understand people saying, and I know this to

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Speaker 2: And I don't just need another readread.

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Speaker 2: Five, I'll be watching.

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Speaker 1: But when things happen that warn't questioned, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: So is it the right move? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I told you this five months ago

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Speaker 4: he went to Tony Vitello. When it's announced, initially you're like,

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Speaker 4: Tony Vitello, the hell are they doing here? Like, Yes,

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Speaker 4: And this is the best way to counteract the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: It can't be unconventional and lose. So we'll give him

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Speaker 4: but it's fair to question a few things. Again, they

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Well, somebody checks in here. This is a good question too.

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Speaker 1: Nine two five says don't you think the front office

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so when I ask this again, it's not just

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Speaker 1: And this what everybody was upset about, And if that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That said, there's one guy who's the face of it,

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Speaker 1: But you gotta do it every day. Pop tim Web

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Speaker 2: They're here.

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Speaker 1: It is according to the NFL reports the NFL plans

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Speaker 1: and could one of us end up getting hired as

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Speaker 2: Love to, you know, that's a lot of really cul

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Speaker 4: It'd be great content. But like god, I get enough

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Speaker 1: You can you couldn't. Like I want to know what

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Speaker 3: Little think you.

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Speaker 2: Could do it. Do you think you're in shape enough

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm a huge NFL fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna act like I know every single rule.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just not forget the rules, forget the

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Speaker 2: Be a referee? Do you do? Do you think you do?

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Speaker 2: I did? This wasn't about me? Shut up, dude. We'll

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Speaker 1: Dirty Work with You on a Monday afternoon Adam Copeland

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Speaker 1: d Pop Tim Web with you now An Jackson, by

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Speaker 1: the way, says say coach, stop conturning Buster to Farahan.

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Speaker 1: Farhan doesn't know what good baseball actually looks like. Bus's

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Speaker 2: Can we separate that? Police like that?

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Speaker 1: But I far I'm gonna get and I guess they've

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Speaker 1: Not every decision was great. Sabian had been to one

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Speaker 1: him any leash that you were gonna give Buster or

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Speaker 1: whoever the next guy was. You never give him the

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Speaker 1: leash you were given Sabian. And by the way, people

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Speaker 1: were walking around the ballpark in Oh six fire Sabian shirts.

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Speaker 1: So don't tell me like it's all great because it's Buster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blind to it being I suppose he won

443
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Speaker 1: it all. We talked about this when he took the job.

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Speaker 1: This can this can change his legacy. It's not going

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Speaker 1: to change his player legacy. But I mean, is Larry

446
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Speaker 1: Bird viewed as like an elite executive as a coach?

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Speaker 4: Yes, coach could Okay, I'll give you an example. I

448
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Speaker 4: love Chris Mullen. I love Chris Mollen as a player.

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Speaker 4: Chris Mullen was not a good Absolutely, Chris Mollen was

450
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Speaker 4: not a good GM.

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Speaker 2: We've heard pretty good GM yeah, and Phoenix did no

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Speaker 2: ky job.

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Speaker 4: Do we ever like criticize like Michael Jordan as the

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Speaker 4: executive compared to his playing career, Like you can question

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Speaker 4: what Michael Jordan does with who is at the what

456
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Speaker 4: whatever team he runs these days, but the fact that

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna relate that to his playing days, so

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Speaker 4: you can separate the two. With Buster Posey being a

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Speaker 4: great player winning three World Series for the Giants, he

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Speaker 4: may not be a good general manager of president of

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Speaker 4: Baseball operation.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what Nott Ryan I mean took them to.

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Speaker 1: My point is is you're playing days Canning lay the

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Speaker 1: foundation for becoming that president of that executive for that GM.

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Speaker 1: But even John Ewen didn't didn't find a winner until

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Speaker 1: he got himself.

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Speaker 2: Brady, how many qbs?

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Speaker 1: That guy'sn't forgotten more about quarterbacking than any of us

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Speaker 1: will ever know, and never drafted a good quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not one.

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Speaker 1: He drafted like seven qbs and didn't hit on any

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Speaker 1: name him Semi and Paxton Lynch exactly, aust Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: run through the qbs.

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Speaker 2: Just because you did.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you know better than anybody, means you

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Speaker 1: knew how to play. You knew the sport better. Barry

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Speaker 1: Bonds the greatest hitter we've ever seen. Is he a

478
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Speaker 1: good hitting coach?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. No, he was a terrible hitting coach.

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Speaker 2: They hated him in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the players didn't like what Dee Gordon's got stuff

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Speaker 1: to say about him, Like all these players you played

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Speaker 1: under him were like this is this was problematic?

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Speaker 2: So I think it was Jass. I'm actually not Gordon.

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Speaker 1: But bottom line is, I'm not comparing Buster too far

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Speaker 1: on I'm saying is the same scrutiny can be applied,

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Speaker 1: and I know the leash is longer, but he comes

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Speaker 1: with a lot of equity, but unconventional inexperience falls on

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Speaker 1: both the manager and the president at this juncture is

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Speaker 1: where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, and I forgot that Michael Jordan was

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Speaker 4: with the Bob the Bob Kats and Hornets. But I

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Speaker 4: always think of Bobcats with him because when I was

494
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Speaker 4: a kid, he went to go own the Bobcats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he owned the Bobcats. Wait what were you saying

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Speaker 2: though about I.

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Speaker 4: Was saying, like, I forget which team he owns these days,

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Speaker 4: but it's the Hornets.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day was a Charlotte Bobkins. He's still

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Speaker 2: their owner. Yeah, he's out there winning, winning NASCAR races.

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Speaker 4: Exactly again, you know, like, well, Michael Jordan's gonna save

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Speaker 4: the day because he's Michael Jordan. No, he's a bad

503
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Speaker 4: executive slash owner of the team.

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Speaker 1: Farron does no good baseball, says the guy who wanted

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Speaker 1: Eldridge on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Derek Jeter. It's a horrible, well horrible miss

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Speaker 2: Marlin's man, as Marlon Man told us.

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Speaker 1: As marlins Man told us, quote, he's a piece of

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Speaker 1: ass and he don't know who I am as an

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Speaker 1: exact quot, except he didn't say as all right into

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Speaker 1: this NFL stuff.

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Speaker 2: So, according to NFL reports reporters.

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Speaker 1: The NFL plans to begin hiring replacement officials before the

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Speaker 1: May thirty first expiration if it's a labor deal, and

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Speaker 1: they're going to deploy these replacement refs in training camps

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Speaker 1: to have them ready to start the season if no

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Speaker 1: agreement is struck with the NFL Referees Association, So Niners.

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Speaker 2: Will be.

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Speaker 1: Week one with replacement League one in Australia with junior

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Speaker 1: college referees.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, God.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So there's a lot of time before this actually comes.

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Speaker 4: It comes to fruition where we're having amateur referees out

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Speaker 4: there and I'm not act like I exactly know what

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Speaker 4: the referees are fighting for. But at this point, I

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Speaker 4: think NFL referees should be full time employees. I think

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Speaker 4: it's ridiculous that's gone this long where they still not

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Speaker 4: don't have those don't don't don't don't have those rights

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. So again, I highly doubt that happens

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Speaker 4: because we saw the disaster that was the twenty twelve

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Speaker 4: season where it didn't take old time.

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Speaker 2: Are you think they should be full time? I think so.

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Speaker 2: You don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I I it's it's not I mean by full time standards,

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Speaker 1: it's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many what are they doing? Now that's an.

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Speaker 4: Argument for another day, Like maybe maybe could be the

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Speaker 4: case they shouldn't be full time arguing time, I got.

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Speaker 2: It can't continue on your point. Sorry're right, that's it right.

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Speaker 4: Back in twenty twelve, we knew the fiasco that was

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Speaker 4: the film Mayor, and then take until that moment where

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Speaker 4: the NFL and Roger Goodell was like we gotta change

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Speaker 4: that we can.

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Speaker 2: Have that same OULTV exactly.

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna tell me, in this day and age

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Speaker 4: where the NFL is in bed with so many you know,

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Speaker 4: gambling sites, and you're gonna have these games overseas, you

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Speaker 4: want amateur refs doing this. And I know that there's

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Speaker 4: a tendency plan that they're voting on this week where

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Speaker 4: let's just say that these referees make an egregious call that.

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Speaker 2: Park Avenue could call down and be like, you know what, guys,

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Speaker 2: that was a big mistake.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna overrule you. You can't have that either. That's

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Speaker 4: you're you're admitting that these guys don't know what the

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Speaker 4: hell they're doing.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right if you allow the league to step

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Speaker 1: in and make their own calls from a skyjetge standpoint,

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Speaker 1: which means by the way that people making the calls

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Speaker 1: are not themselves officials, exactly, you're gonna get like rules

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Speaker 1: committee people making these these end all be all calls.

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Speaker 1: That's not an umbiased person you would think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you would hope they were if they're part of the

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Speaker 1: rules committee. When I don't know who it is is

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Speaker 1: the commissioner goet final sentence.

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Speaker 2: And no, that's a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: That's not a well commissioner can't be doing that because

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Speaker 4: he you know, he goes around and goes to games east.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, whoever it is, whoever these people are

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Speaker 1: that will be sitting in the as a sky judge

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Speaker 1: effectively saying or that's what I mean is who do

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Speaker 1: you go to? Because it can't be somebody who's involved

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Speaker 1: in the Referees Association.

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Speaker 2: Exact if they're in that that union.

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Speaker 1: So this is you're you're absolutely right though, Derek, that

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Speaker 1: if if you can't get calls right and it goes

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Speaker 1: to the league officers to make a call or they

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Speaker 1: have to call in, you're you're pulling the rug out

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Speaker 1: from all legitimacy that happens on the field.

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Speaker 2: So and why this play but not that plague? I

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Speaker 2: mean why here but not there?

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Speaker 1: At what point do you hit a level of confusion

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Speaker 1: or controversy where they step in and make the call,

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Speaker 1: and do you allow them to make the call? Then

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Speaker 1: the league comes in and says, actually that's not the call.

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Speaker 1: Like this is you know games around on a leash here,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't know how they how

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Speaker 1: they could do that, and I don't want that to

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Speaker 1: be the case now. I don't want to have some

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Speaker 1: anonymous face making a call from elsewhere that we don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want What do you give me for?

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Speaker 1: The official makes a call and it goes the league

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Speaker 1: office to make the official caller of the final call

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Speaker 1: in it. It sort of makes me think of like

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Speaker 1: a deal or no deal. When they look up to

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Speaker 1: the there's that shadowy banker up.

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Speaker 2: And that was just like doctor Claw from like Inspector Gadget.

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Speaker 2: It's like a rule, it's a touchdown. This penalty will

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Speaker 2: self distruct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I like looking up and seeing that there's

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Speaker 1: the there's the banker up there with Howie Mandel.

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Speaker 4: So as months go on, like we could we could

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Speaker 4: get Mike Perero on ask him about this, But I

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Speaker 4: highly doubt they're gonna go into the season with replacement refs.

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Speaker 4: There's so much time and I push comes to shove

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Speaker 4: in deadlines.

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Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't want that. They can't do this.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is also some jockeying from

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Speaker 1: the league saying we're willing to do it again.

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Speaker 2: This is the league saying we're posturing. This is posturing

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Speaker 2: and saying.

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Speaker 1: We're willing to do it again, even though we know

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Speaker 1: it was a disaster last time. We're gonna prepare ahead

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Speaker 1: of time this time to try to prepare to cover

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Speaker 1: all the s that happened last time. So if you

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Speaker 1: don't reach an agreement, we'll still go and have our games.

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Speaker 1: We're not waiting for you, guys.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that in the coming months they actually

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Speaker 4: released this news they're going to bring in replacement refs

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Speaker 4: and onboard them and get them ready to for the season, that.

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Speaker 2: Makes me a little worried.

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Speaker 4: But I highly doubt that happens, just because it would

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Speaker 4: be a mess, and I doubt the league with everything

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Speaker 4: on the line right now and everybody involved the gambling,

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Speaker 4: they do not want to have a fiasco like a

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Speaker 4: twenty twelve with the Packers and se No.

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Speaker 2: Especially on national TV. Disaster.

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Speaker 1: By the way, two oh nine checks in an eight

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Speaker 1: away cambar And says, did they should have Goodell just

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Speaker 1: hit at every game and then cut to them like

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Speaker 1: the Emperor and Gladiator and just give.

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Speaker 2: The thumbs over the films walking feeding somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I like that d a lot, Dude, I like to

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Speaker 1: him sitting in his garage next to all those gumballs

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Speaker 1: or whatever they put at M and.

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Speaker 2: M's and the reclinery whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: Roger Gondelisa were the same thing that walking Phoenix was wearing.

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Speaker 2: And Gladiator that crown and that that get up.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the Denzel gladiator doing it well either

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Speaker 1: one either one. I like Denzel sitting there with no accident.

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Speaker 1: Just you go and call that a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, we're going No, No, that's where he stopped

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Speaker 2: at the one. We'll take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Adam Coupling deep Pop, Tim Webb with the Ajority work

644
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Speaker 1: on a Monday. When we come on back, Matt Mayoko

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Speaker 1: or forty nine ers insider from NBC Sports Barrier joins

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Speaker 1: us there's news out there. John Lynch says it could

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Speaker 1: be soon that they reach a deal with Trent Williams

648
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Speaker 1: and says it is not gotten contentious.

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Speaker 4: And as far as the substation, a big nothing burger.

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Speaker 4: They brought in some scientists, top men coaches, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: not men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not my scientist. That's the scientists didn't hit Really,

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Speaker 1: that's not my science. Okay, I got you. You I've

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Speaker 1: said it since day one. The substation is to blame

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Speaker 1: for everything all that is wrong.

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Speaker 2: That leads delicious of the Burgers, all nothing.

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Speaker 1: All that is wrong with football is the Substation's fault.

658
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Speaker 1: By the way, Lynch also pointed out, you know, no

659
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Speaker 1: player or free agent everyone's asked station.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, can we just read some of

661
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Speaker 4: Shanahan's comments when it comes to playing in Australia, like

662
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Speaker 4: you mentioned at first, Yeah, our goal is to go

663
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Speaker 4: nineteen hours away. We're going back in time or into

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Speaker 4: the future, is what it is. We'll deal with it.

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Speaker 4: I don't see any pro it's cool for the league

666
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Speaker 4: to play globally. I think that's awesome, but as far

667
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Speaker 4: as the team doing it, no, there's not.

668
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Speaker 2: There's there's not much benefit to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is gonna happen all off season

670
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Speaker 4: where they're gonna be asked about this, and of course

671
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Speaker 4: they'll go with the flow.

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Speaker 2: Sean mcveig, how Shanahan, But they think I think it's

673
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Speaker 2: a joke. Yeah, it's not.

674
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's not beneficial for anybody except the Australians right

675
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Speaker 1: quite literally nobody but the Audi in them.

676
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Speaker 4: The game's gonna kick off at ten thirty five their time.

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Speaker 2: Dude, they don't care. I know they don't.

678
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Speaker 4: Well, they don't care about that audience. They care about

679
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Speaker 4: us when we get the game of five thirty.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about us. They don't care about they

681
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Speaker 1: care about us in prime time.

682
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Speaker 2: Oh you know they they can't. They can't.

683
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Speaker 4: They care where more about us than they do the

684
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Speaker 4: Australia audience.

685
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Speaker 2: With the players, we'll talk about Matt Mayoko about all this.

686
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Speaker 2: He joined us.

687
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Speaker 1: Next, the owner's meetings went down, as did Kyl Shannan

688
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Speaker 1: and John Lynch speaking to the media about Trent Williams,

689
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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk and how they're gonna handle this travel.

690
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Speaker 2: More to come with Matt Mayo go next on the sports.

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Speaker 1: Leader thirty work on a Monday afternoon, Adam copelandepop Tim

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Speaker 1: Web with you.

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Speaker 2: We made the connection with our guy.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mayoko, forty nine ers insider for NBC Sports Bay Area,

695
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Speaker 1: joins us every Monday talking Niner football.

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Speaker 2: Matt, what's going on, man?

697
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Speaker 3: How are you? I'm doing great? How you guys doing

698
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Speaker 3: doing well? Man?

699
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Speaker 2: We got there.

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Speaker 1: We got Giants baseball back though on the roads and

701
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for looking for our first w S six

702
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Speaker 1: forty tonight, so we'll be doing that. But also we

703
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Speaker 1: had the the owners meetings and the coaches all got

704
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Speaker 1: together and they spoke. They took that that sort of

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Speaker 1: class photo. I like that photo this year, Matt. They

706
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Speaker 1: were all like they were all kind of matching.

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Speaker 2: See that you know I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Arizona right now, and I've been at the

709
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Speaker 3: the NFI Annual meeting here for the last couple of days,

710
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Speaker 3: but I kind of was doing other stuff and so

711
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Speaker 3: I haven't actually seen the photo yet, but I'm trying

712
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Speaker 3: to think. I don't recall them all walking around and matching.

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Speaker 1: After it was it was all kind of like it

714
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Speaker 1: was kind of like somebody threw a party and was like,

715
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Speaker 1: we want you to wear this these this color went

716
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Speaker 1: like they all had like a different color. They're like

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Speaker 1: blue and green and white, like it was all kind

718
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Speaker 1: of the same shape.

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Speaker 2: It was sort of funny.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost like they got punked, like their wives said, hey, yes,

721
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Speaker 3: follow for you. Can you put it on? And everybody

722
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Speaker 3: shows up at the party wearing the same polla exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we know there's no chance that Kyle shitt

724
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Speaker 4: Hands were in the same attire as Andy Reid.

725
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Speaker 3: And yeah, Andy steps out a little bit. Yeah he

726
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Speaker 3: he's got the flowery you know, he's got the Loja

727
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Speaker 3: shirts and then whatever else and uh, you know he

728
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Speaker 3: could probably drink that thing over a VW bug.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the UM does.

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Speaker 1: I was also looking at like I like to see

731
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Speaker 1: where coaches stand, like like Robert Salace standing right next

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Speaker 1: to Cot, which is kind of cool. They're on the

733
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Speaker 1: far right side, but you almost Liam Cohen could almost

734
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Speaker 1: not be farther away from Robert Salad, which is sort.

735
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Speaker 3: Of that was probably by design, I think that was all.

736
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Speaker 3: It was funny because I was talking to Robert Salad

737
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Speaker 3: like as he was going getting ready, but he didn't

738
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Speaker 3: want to beat go out there like early to look

739
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Speaker 3: like he was so eager to get back in that photo,

740
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Speaker 3: so he was kind of like, uh, you know, kind

741
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Speaker 3: of slowing his role a little bit to time it

742
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Speaker 3: so that he was kind of moving in with a

743
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Speaker 3: lot of other people on that last wave of coaches

744
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Speaker 3: going in for the photo.

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Speaker 2: It's cool, it is.

746
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Speaker 1: It is a cool photo that comes out over here,

747
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Speaker 1: and it's a it's anna lead an exclusive group, right,

748
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Speaker 1: So Matt with us here on the UMA guest line.

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Speaker 1: I'd say the number one thing that I want to

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Speaker 1: take away or start with here is John Lynch mentioning

751
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Speaker 1: the discussions with Front Williams sounds like it's it's maybe

752
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Speaker 1: closer than we thought. He says things have heated up

753
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Speaker 1: a little bit in the last week. And something else

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Speaker 1: that he pointed out as he said he's never got

755
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Speaker 1: like mean or contentious. It was kind of the tone

756
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Speaker 1: that he was giving, but that it's very nuanced and

757
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to thread the needle. So by all accounts,

758
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Speaker 1: like from John Lynch, it sounds like we should be

759
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Speaker 1: optimistic about the return of Front Williams.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would think so. I mean, if he goes

761
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Speaker 3: out on the limb to say that he feels like

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Speaker 3: it's on the precipice of something happening, then you know

763
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Speaker 3: quite clearly things that have to take a nose dive

764
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Speaker 3: in order for that deal not to be completed before

765
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Speaker 3: the draft. But yeah, I had heard that as far

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Speaker 3: as in comparison to the Trent Williams conversations or negotiations

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Speaker 3: that took place two years ago, things were far ahead

768
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Speaker 3: of that. That's I have something where there wasn't a

769
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Speaker 3: whole lot of discussion up until like the deadline, which

770
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Speaker 3: is the start of the regular season. This year, it

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Speaker 3: feels like that deadline really is the draft, and whether

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Speaker 3: it's a real or imagined deadline, it does sound like

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Speaker 3: things are moving much quicker. As far as just the

774
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Speaker 3: conversations and the open lines of communication, the sense I

775
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Speaker 3: got was coming out of the NFL scouting combine, it

776
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Speaker 3: was quite clear that Trent Williams side was trying to

777
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Speaker 3: get things going and was putting stuff in there about, oh,

778
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Speaker 3: you know, if the deal's not done, the Fouriers could

779
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Speaker 3: release him and he'd be the hottest free agent on

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Speaker 3: the market. And the forty nine ers were always like,

781
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Speaker 3: just relax here, you know, there's nothing to see. Things

782
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Speaker 3: will get done. And it does sound like now both

783
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Speaker 3: sides are working together to find some solution that works

784
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Speaker 3: for both sides.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Mayoko on the Uma guest line. As far

786
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Speaker 4: as other comments that came out of today's owners meetings

787
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Speaker 4: with the forty nine ers, Kyle Shanan talked about brand

788
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Speaker 4: Ay Yuk and the potential of releasing him, and he said,

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Speaker 4: we're rush to do that. Hopefully we get something out

790
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Speaker 4: of it. Jed York also spoke about Brandon Eyuk had

791
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Speaker 4: said that Brandon Ayuk's a very talented guy. Would love

792
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Speaker 4: to bring him back into the fold. If not, I

793
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Speaker 4: think he's a valuable asset for other people would want.

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Speaker 4: Is there still, like with those comments, Matt, is there

795
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Speaker 4: still some maybe hope on Jed York's part that maybe

796
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Speaker 4: brand Ayuk could still be part of this team or

797
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: is it pretty clear that they're all moving on?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty clear that John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's been no question about that. There's

801
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Speaker 3: not a chance that Brandon Ayke is back on the

802
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Speaker 3: team where I should say remains on the team. And

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Speaker 3: you know, if the forty ainers didn't trade him, even

804
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Speaker 3: if the forty nine ers were like, well, heck, he's

805
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Speaker 3: under contract, let's hold on to him, do you really

806
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Speaker 3: think there's any chance that Brandon Ayuk would show up?

807
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: You know, and remember he ended the season on the

808
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Speaker 3: reserve left squad list, which meant he went a wall

809
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Speaker 3: and he wasn't coming back. And the forty nine ers,

810
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Speaker 3: you know, boyd it that that twenty seven million dollars

811
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Speaker 3: in guaranteed money so, I mean, probably the easiest way

812
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Speaker 3: to read what Jed York said was, Hey, I'm going

813
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: to put out there in in the in the NFL

814
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: verse that that I like him. I want to see

815
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Speaker 3: him come back. We're in no hurry to get rid

816
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Speaker 3: of him. So it was a signal to thirty one

817
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Speaker 3: teams if you have any desire to have Brandon Ayuk

818
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Speaker 3: on your team, then instead of waiting for him that

819
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Speaker 3: for some time that may or may not happen, come

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Speaker 3: calling now, because you know quite clearly the forty nine

821
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Speaker 3: ers are open for business as far as it comes

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Speaker 3: to trading Brandon Ayuk. And you know what the price

823
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Speaker 3: would be. I mean, I just had lunch and I

824
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: had a tuna melt sandwich. It would probably the price

825
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: to acquire Brandon I would be probably just a little

826
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Speaker 3: bit north of that. There's there's no other options, you know,

827
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Speaker 3: like a team that wants Brandon I, I'm sure would

828
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Speaker 3: want to get him in the building and learning the

829
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Speaker 3: offense and working with the quarterback and want to be

830
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Speaker 3: there for the offseason program. Also to monitor his health

831
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Speaker 3: where he is mentally out and he's you know, just everything.

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Speaker 3: And for the forty nine ers, they're basically saying, hey,

833
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, we're fine holding on to him. You know,

834
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Speaker 3: he's not going to be on the team. He wasn't

835
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Speaker 3: on the team last year, He's not going to be

836
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Speaker 3: on the team this year. But it gained the forty

837
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Speaker 3: airs gain. Don't gain anything by releasing him and just

838
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Speaker 3: allowing any team that wants him to come get him.

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Speaker 3: So forty nine Ers or Jed York is sending the

840
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Speaker 3: signal that you know, if you want Brandon and I,

841
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Speaker 3: it won't cost you too much, but it's going to

842
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Speaker 3: cost you something.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna Matt May out there here are forty nine

844
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Speaker 1: Ers Insider joined us on the.

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Speaker 2: UMA gest line.

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Speaker 1: One of the other topics of Doreth and I were

847
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Speaker 1: just getting into is the potential yet again for replacement referees,

848
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Speaker 1: which we discussed this briefly last week, and I said,

849
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Speaker 1: you know what's crazy about this is it's not like

850
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Speaker 1: we could have forgotten what happened before because it happened

851
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Speaker 1: on National TV such a big deal, and Roger Goodell

852
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Speaker 1: was the commisson and the last time they went into

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Speaker 1: a situation like this, well, now they've announced that they're

854
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Speaker 1: going to start hiring replacement rats sending the training camp

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Speaker 1: to get him prepared.

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Speaker 2: There's some posturing I.

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Speaker 1: Think here between the league and in the Union for

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Speaker 1: the officials for sure.

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Speaker 2: But what would it mean if we get to a spot.

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Speaker 1: Like they're talking about, where we open the year with

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Speaker 1: replacement officials and if there's a call that the league

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Speaker 1: doesn't like, they themselves would make the call from the

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Speaker 1: league officers? I just I can't imagine that's something that

864
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Speaker 1: would be good for the league.

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Speaker 3: Well, it probably be better for the league than replacement

866
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Speaker 3: officials screwing up a call and then not getting it right.

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Speaker 3: At least there would be another set of eyes. I

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Speaker 3: would imagine that they would really beef up the replay

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Speaker 3: operation in New York, where you might have a couple

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Speaker 3: of sets of eyes on every game around the league

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Speaker 3: and we'd be closely monitoring that. And if there is

872
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Speaker 3: a clear and obvious error, you know, due to lack experience,

873
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Speaker 3: lack experience, maybe if a college official who hasn't done

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Speaker 3: you know, NFL games, and maybe there's just an over

875
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: somebody overlooks a rule or just how it's done in

876
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: the NFL, or you know, the the usage of the

877
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: expedited replay where they can just see a clear and

878
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: obvious error and immediately correct it without much fanfare or hoopla,

879
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: and keep the game moving. So I think that that's

880
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: the way that the NFL is using that as leveraged

881
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: to tell the officials, the NFL officials, hey, look, you know,

882
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: we're we're going to have well officiated games that are

883
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: going to be fair to both teams because we're going

884
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: to have not only the officials on the field, but

885
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: we're going to have you know, some experienced people in

886
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: the league office looking over these games and kind of

887
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: keeping an eagle's eye view on what's going on and

888
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: correct any obvious errors. So I think it's all posturing.

889
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: It's certainly the league using technology as a way of

890
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: also negotiating the deal that they want to get from

891
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: the NFL officials.

892
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: Talking about Mayoko on the UMA guest line. So it

893
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: is official. The forty nine Ers will open their season

894
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: on September tenth in Australia versus the Rams, and it's

895
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: clear that Kyle's not happy about it. I'm sure a

896
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: lot of people on the team are not happy about it,

897
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: and the league didn't do like any accommodations for them

898
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: or any favors with the Thursday game because it's only

899
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: taken place then because the NFL can't have games on

900
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: Friday that late in September due to high school games.

901
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 4: But do you believe that they could get a game

902
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: on Monday night on Week two to make up for

903
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: like the rest and the travel or do you think

904
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: the NFL even cares about them getting extra rest after

905
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 4: that game.

906
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be a Monday night game. I

907
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: don't think the forty niners want a Monday night game

908
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: because then that would lead into another short week. But

909
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: I do think that the forty nine ers would be

910
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: lobbying heavily for a week to home game on Sunday

911
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: Night football, just to give them a few more hours.

912
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: And then you're thinking, well, where they go from there?

913
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: I think probably if you're looking at what the forty

914
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: nineers would want and what they've submitted to the league

915
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: as far as how you can help us, then it'd

916
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: be Week three, a road game, but a short road game.

917
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: You know, whether that's a game in Seattle or Arizona.

918
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think the other I guess I think

919
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: they play at the LA Chargers so that would probably

920
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: be the most likely scenario again if it's what the

921
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: forty nine ers want, so you know they trust me

922
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: at forty and ers, they feel like they'd gotten the

923
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: shaft a little bit when it comes to the scheduling.

924
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: You know last year was at three games and thirteen

925
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 3: days late in the year. You know, this year they

926
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: have the international game, not just in the international game,

927
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: but in Australia with a sixteen hour flight there, a

928
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: sixteen hour flight back, and then later in the season

929
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 3: they do have another international game, and that's a home

930
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: game in Mexico City. And as I understand it, you

931
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: know it's wide open who they could play. Every team

932
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: internationally can block two teams and say we don't want

933
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: to play either of these two teams in our international game.

934
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: And the two teams of forty airs have blocked are

935
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: the Raiders because I think they feel like there's a

936
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: good Mexico City fan base of the Raiders, so you know,

937
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: quite clearly there's a home team the four Airers would

938
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: love to have a home crowd advantage, and also the

939
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos because of the elevation in Mexico City. They

940
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: feel like that would be a major disadvantage for them

941
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: for the Niners, a Sea level team to be playing

942
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. So I think some of the thought

943
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: is and maybe it'll be the Miami Dolphins. I'm not

944
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: sure when that's going for the announced, if it, whoever

945
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: it is, but some of the thought is like it.

946
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: It seems like the Dolphins are a good fit to

947
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: play the forty nine Ers in Mexico City. But I

948
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: think that'll be announced. You know what the NFL decides

949
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: at some point down the road.

950
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: That may Oka or forty nine Ers insider NBC Sports

951
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: very Matt. I know you're you're a guy with there's

952
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: a lot of great research. Man, You've been doing this

953
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: for a long time. Did it Did it hit your

954
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: ego at all to find out that the substation was

955
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: a nothing burger?

956
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: That affects you?

957
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: I was so disappointed, you know, yeah, I mean I

958
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: got to say, you know, the last I've been covering,

959
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: ever since i've covered the team, you know that substation

960
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: has been there. You know the substation was there in

961
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight or I'm sorry, the substation was predated.

962
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers moved to Tanta Player in nineteen

963
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: eighty eight. And you know what, I just kind of

964
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 3: felt a slow deterioration of my ligaments and tendons over

965
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: the years. So maybe it was all the psychosomatic, you know,

966
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: maybe it was just a placebo. But yeah, you know,

967
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: and I know the forty hours they disclosed John Lynch

968
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: did that. They hired a an independent scientist who took

969
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: readings of the ees. Was it electro magnetic em s?

970
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: I think, and as that what it is anyway, the

971
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: electro magnetic field. They oh, there we go EMFs, and

972
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: they say that the readings were four hundred times under

973
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: what's considered an unsafe environment, and the highest readings were

974
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: over by the power lines, not by the power plant,

975
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: the power lines that run parallel to the railroad tracks

976
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: there on. I guess that would be the east side

977
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: of the practice field. But I firmly believe that the

978
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: prayers coming out and saying that is going to have

979
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: zero impact with the people who believe to believe. Yeah,

980
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: and you know, there's like, well they didn't disclose the

981
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: name of the person. They said, well, we don't know

982
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: if he wants his name disclosed. I would imagine at

983
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: some point Frien Airs will kind of have to. But

984
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, my belief is everybody's gonna always believe what

985
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: they want to believe.

986
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: A couple more minutes with Matt Mayoko on the Uma

987
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: guest line. As far as a free agent that we

988
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: thought would sign with the forty nine ers, John Lynch

989
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 4: was asked about Joey Bosa and he said, I know

990
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 4: that would make Mama Bosa very happy if he signed,

991
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: but I don't think we can afford him. And so, Matt,

992
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: if you had a guess, what do you think they're

993
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: willing to pay him in comparison to what he actually wants.

994
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I think he made thirteen

995
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: million last year. Yeah, for one year with the Buffalo Bills.

996
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: You know it would it would have to be a

997
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: number less than that. How much less, I don't know,

998
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: but you know, let's keep in mind. I'm I'm gonna

999
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: talk about Joey Bosa. I'm also going to talk about

1000
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings. Now. In my mind, the fray AARSU would

1001
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: like to have Joey Bosa on their team again at

1002
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: the right price. With Juwan Jennings, you know that ship

1003
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: has sailed. You know they signed Mike Evans to a

1004
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: reasonable contract. Also brought in Christian Kirk. But when you're

1005
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: talking about veteran players who haven't signed at this point,

1006
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 3: what's clear is whatever that player wants or that player

1007
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: is asking for, there hasn't been another team around the

1008
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: league who's come through with that with that price. So

1009
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: as long as those players are still out there, let's

1010
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: just focus on Bosa. As long as he's still out

1011
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: there and no one's given him that price, then at

1012
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 3: some point you would think his asking price will come down.

1013
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: Maybe their teams that are going, hey, we'd like to

1014
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: sign you. We think your price is very reasonable. But

1015
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: let's see how the draft goes and if we still

1016
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: have a need there, if we still have an opening,

1017
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: let's revisit it. But you know, right now, any veteran

1018
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: player who was out there, I wouldn't rule out anybody. Uh.

1019
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: I guess probably with the exception of Juwan Jennings is

1020
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: because Branders already have their their wide receiver rooms kind

1021
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: of set. But I wouldn't rule out anybody until a

1022
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: player's signed, because you know the player doesn't have you know,

1023
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: a guy like Joey Bosa has made a heck of

1024
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: a lot of money, so he doesn't ever need he

1025
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: doesn't need to play football again, so he probably does

1026
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: have his price. He'll be with some team, just a

1027
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: matter of what that cost is. And right now, as

1028
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: John Lynch so you know, succinctly pointed out, the asking

1029
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: price is too high. But we'll see if that asking

1030
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: price changes as time goes on.

1031
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Here we deal with Matt Mayoko every Monday here on

1032
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: Dirty Work. Matt always appreciate the time on. Some of

1033
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: our giants get one tonight, man, we are an hour

1034
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: and a half away from first.

1035
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: If they let's let's see if they can score a

1036
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: season high and run total of tonight two.

1037
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, well, I think that great. Matt Mayo,

1038
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: go with us if you missending that all of alethesports

1039
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Leader dot com and the The Sports Leader Apple, we'll

1040
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: take a quick break. When we come on back, we

1041
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: will go down to San Diego and catch up with

1042
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Susan Slusser from pet Co Park. She covers the giants.

1043
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: We'll get her thoughts on tonight's sort of weird lineup.

1044
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: People are kooky. People who are uh who are.

1045
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Drinking the kool aid are really upset that we think

1046
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: the lineup's weird, not.

1047
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Just us people. Yeah, I'll just stop picking on him, man.

1048
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, everybody stopped thinking I was comparing

1049
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: Buster Tofarahan.

1050
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: That didn't happen.

1051
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: It's now what has a person or people are to

1052
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: stop comparing Buster to far On? I was like, why

1053
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: did that really what you heard me say? Is that

1054
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: really what you heard me say?

1055
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: No, it's fair to say that if if Farha Anxiety

1056
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: hired Tony vite Tel people on.

1057
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: Everybody who's like, take a breather, it would all be up.

1058
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: But I'm and you all say yeah because Farhi didn't

1059
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: know what he was doing. And I'm like, yeah, but

1060
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: you guys thought up this way about far On immediately

1061
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: because Boach wasn't retained and Boach was gone. Boach was

1062
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: leaving anyway. Boach wasn't coming back, not because of far On.

1063
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't coming back anyway. It was time for a break.

1064
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: He was walking away, yep, until he came on back.

1065
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Buster Tofarhan. I never did, I never have,

1066
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: I never would. I'm just saying I don't just say

1067
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: you get to do whatever you want without any criticism

1068
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: because you won three championships exactly. You get a much

1069
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: longer leash, but that's not the same thing as putting

1070
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: together a winning team. And you've now gone outside the

1071
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: box and got in a completely unique way. It better work,

1072
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Anyway, came Bearers is a

1073
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: number to call in text, we'll take your quick break,

1074
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: will come back and talk to Susan Slusser who joined

1075
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: us next and then Giants pregame at five point forty

1076
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: right here on the Sports Leader