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Speaker 3: Welcome Larry Krueger back with you. It is Niners Nightly.
Speaker 3: Hope everybody's having a fantastic Wednesday, August the fifth, and
Speaker 3: we got a great hour. We got a fantastic hour
Speaker 3: that we're gonna get to. Guy Haberman is gonna stop
Speaker 3: by the great Guy Haberman caught up with him today
Speaker 3: after practice down in Santa Clara. Practice that twenty different
Speaker 3: forty nine ers did not attend because of injury. How
Speaker 3: about that ninety man camp roster. Twenty guys m I
Speaker 3: A well, I wouldn't say amia, but not out there practicing.
Speaker 3: That's how it begins for the forty nine ers. But
Speaker 3: we're gonna we'll get into it. Guy Haberman's gonna join us.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to the hour. The fantastic Young Chips McCarthy
Speaker 3: on the controls. It was great to hear Raff. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Raff and of course copes
Speaker 3: and deep pop. It's you know, I'm just gonna say
Speaker 3: this out of the shoot because we're not robots, right,
Speaker 3: We're not robots. I know some people listened to me
Speaker 3: in the past. We what I thought you were a robot. No,
Speaker 3: we're not robots. You know, we have feelings and we
Speaker 3: have relationships, we have friends and and you know, yes,
Speaker 3: in radio, a lot of times you're working by your
Speaker 3: sometimes in an empty studio. We don't always have that
Speaker 3: same work environment that you may have at your place
Speaker 3: where you're you know, sitting around the kitchen or wherever
Speaker 3: at your office and you've got all this camaraderie.
Speaker 2: You know, you tend to do your shift and you
Speaker 2: go home.
Speaker 3: The producers stick around, the executives and the promotions people,
Speaker 3: the salespeople, they sometimes stick around.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they work.
Speaker 3: Remotely, but a lot especially in recent years, since COVID,
Speaker 3: so much of the broadcasting world has been done remotely,
Speaker 3: and yet we've had such a tight family group here
Speaker 3: at cambr All I could say is that, you know,
Speaker 3: as somebody who's been through it all right, I've I've
Speaker 3: been walked to my vehicle, I've been banished from the Kingdom,
Speaker 3: you know, under great scorn, I've been downsized because of
Speaker 3: financial shiftings and that kind of thing. And yet here
Speaker 3: I am on my third stint at the station. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what it really says about me, but I
Speaker 3: do want to say that I love Greg Papa, and
Speaker 3: I love Greg Silver.
Speaker 2: I was just talking earlier today with Greg Silver.
Speaker 3: He's a tremendous kid, tremendous kid, and every time I
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to tell his father how proud I
Speaker 3: was of Greg, you know, I did, you know one,
Speaker 3: because I'm a dad myself, and you know, as a dad,
Speaker 3: those are the kinds of things you like to hear.
Speaker 3: But also it's the truth. The guy was awesome, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3: There's people in this business that can't get jobs because
Speaker 3: they aren't any good, and then there's people that get
Speaker 3: jobs but they can't keep jobs because they're not good people.
Speaker 3: Greg's both good and a good person, and he's going
Speaker 3: to land into a great you know something, whether it
Speaker 3: be a cal or anywhere else. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: broadcast entities out there that should want Greg Silver.
Speaker 2: He works hard, he's smart.
Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed the shows that I've done this year
Speaker 3: with Greg Silver. He's one of the most impressive young
Speaker 3: broadcasters I've ever met. I mean, he's that kind of
Speaker 3: a hustler, he's that kind of a you got to
Speaker 3: be smart to do these jobs because it's all live,
Speaker 3: and he's smart.
Speaker 2: He's a smart kid. And I really really out of
Speaker 2: the shows that we did together.
Speaker 3: So Greg, I love you, brother, and you can always
Speaker 3: use me as a reference, and I'm here for you.
Speaker 3: And I'll pound the table for you know, the way
Speaker 3: people pound the table for seventh round draft choices on
Speaker 3: Day three of the NFL Draft. I'll pound the table
Speaker 3: for Greg Silver because I believe that much in him.
Speaker 3: And as far as Greg pop, I mean, heck, Greig
Speaker 3: and I go back thirty thirty five years. I mean
Speaker 3: I've known him forever. We've known each other. We've had
Speaker 3: so many different moments together in our career on the mic,
Speaker 3: off the mic, partying in the in the quarter. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, nobody was a better wingman than Pop in
Speaker 3: a lot of those years. We had so much fun,
Speaker 3: so much fun, and what even when he was at
Speaker 3: the FM station and I was at Gambiar, you know,
Speaker 3: he treated me great.
Speaker 2: We always we always had in great moments.
Speaker 3: And then getting a chance to work on the forty
Speaker 3: nine er coverage together has been a joy for me.
Speaker 3: And I really believe it. I said it the other day.
Speaker 3: I really think Tim and Greg are the best there is.
Speaker 3: I think it's the best broadcast team in the country,
Speaker 3: definitely in the NFL, one of the best I've ever
Speaker 3: heard of covering football. So Greg's an enormous talent. I'm
Speaker 3: not telling you guys anything you don't know. And I
Speaker 3: love him like a brother, and I'm praying for him
Speaker 3: to get better. And you know, today is business, and
Speaker 3: I understand business.
Speaker 1: Business.
Speaker 3: Somebody said to me once business krug always prevails, and
Speaker 3: it really is true. It's cold, but it's true. Business
Speaker 3: always does prevail. And also, you know, I also I'll
Speaker 3: add one little addendum to that. Good people prevail, and
Speaker 3: Greg Pop is a good person. Greg Silver is a
Speaker 3: good person and they're gonna prevail. They're going to prevail.
Speaker 3: And and I told young young Greg Silver, I said,
Speaker 3: hey man, you know what looks to be a bad
Speaker 3: break sometimes is sometimes a great break, and just think
Speaker 3: of it that way, and you'll be surprised how many.
Speaker 3: I also told them the truth, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: if you do working for Deloitte Intuition you get laid off,
Speaker 3: nobody knows about it. If you work for K and
Speaker 3: br and you get laid off, everybody knows about it.
Speaker 3: And there's a downside to that, but there's also an
Speaker 3: upside to that. And the upside is that there's lots
Speaker 3: of people that care about you, and then they're going
Speaker 3: to reach out to you and tell you how they
Speaker 3: feel about you, which is going to be very gratifying.
Speaker 3: But also there's gonna be opportunities and new doors that open,
Speaker 3: and feel free to walk through those doors with enthusiasm
Speaker 3: and attack it and attack it the way you attacked radio.
Speaker 3: Because both those guys are awesome radio guys. All right,
Speaker 3: we are not going to turn this into a big
Speaker 3: cry fest. But I do love my guys, and I
Speaker 3: was not gonna start niners nightly without shouting out my guys,
Speaker 3: because that's who I am. But we do have a
Speaker 3: great hour and we are going to talk to Guy Haberman.
Speaker 3: But we always start with, you know, the big story
Speaker 3: of the day in niner Land, And I kind of
Speaker 3: gave it away by telling you guys that the injuries
Speaker 3: have just mounted, right, and you guys know that the
Speaker 3: injuries have mounted. People are calling for Dustin Perry's job.
Speaker 3: People are calling for you know, they need to switch
Speaker 3: the practice facility before the sun goes down. You know,
Speaker 3: they need to move get out of there as soon
Speaker 3: as possible.
Speaker 2: It's all the substation.
Speaker 3: Oh if I hear one more substation thing, I'm gonna puke,
Speaker 3: Gonna absolutely puke. The Niners train there forever. By the way,
Speaker 3: the substation had been there before. Maybe it's bigger now,
Speaker 3: but it's been there for a long time. They haven't
Speaker 3: been hurt this entire time, so I kind of don't
Speaker 3: think it's the substation, but I get the frustration.
Speaker 2: Twenty guys on a ninety man roster out.
Speaker 3: You haven't played a game, you haven't had even joint practices,
Speaker 3: You've only had a half dozen practices, and you got
Speaker 3: twenty guys on the shelf. Now, I would say at
Speaker 3: least six or seven of those guys are probably out
Speaker 3: for preventative purposes. So like, if there were a game today,
Speaker 3: I think you might see some of those guys, just
Speaker 3: a hunch. Some of the guys with some of the
Speaker 3: soft tissue injuries, I.
Speaker 2: Think you'd see them.
Speaker 3: But you also don't want to be stupid. You want
Speaker 3: to be smart about things. It's early August. You know,
Speaker 3: you're hopefully going to battle for the playoffs in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in January.
Speaker 2: And February, so it's a long long road.
Speaker 3: But the theme today, outside of the injuries, I thought
Speaker 3: was the appearance on the practice field for the first
Speaker 3: time of two guys who looked like they can really
Speaker 3: help the pass rush. The Niners drafted this kid, Grace
Speaker 3: and Halton out of Oklahoma in the mid rounds, and
Speaker 3: I thought he was their best pick. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: a two hundred and ninety five pounds defensive lineman that
Speaker 3: has linebacker movement ability and he was out for a
Speaker 3: few days with a knee bruse. Well he was back
Speaker 3: in there today and wow, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was just he rested up or now he got a
Speaker 3: chance to kind of measure the speed of NFL practice
Speaker 3: and kind of adjust because he didn't look that great
Speaker 3: truth be told look pretty ordinary in the early practices today,
Speaker 3: who in the one on ones? Grace and Halton looked explosive.
Speaker 3: He looked quick, he was burning guys, he was running
Speaker 3: in he he was sacking the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I mean he wasn't actually sacking the quarterback, but he.
Speaker 3: Was winning the one on one rep and dominating at
Speaker 3: times the one on ones and kind of celebrating, which
Speaker 3: I love to see. He was like, hey, man, you
Speaker 3: know I'm the big dogs here and I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: So I loved what I saw from Grayson Halton today.
Speaker 3: And man, what a nice player. He could potentially be
Speaker 3: three hundred pound interior rusher. That looks like a guy
Speaker 3: who can sack the quarterback. You already have os o'diggy Zua.
Speaker 3: Now you could potentially have Grayson Halton inside. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: That's that was number one. Number two forty nine has
Speaker 3: made a couple signings today. One of them was the
Speaker 3: veteran defensive.
Speaker 2: End Ogbo Ironquo. Would you call me?
Speaker 3: He wore number fifty nine today and this guy gave
Speaker 3: two of the Niners' youngest, most raw offensive tackles just
Speaker 3: the you know, the lesson of lessons. I mean, he
Speaker 3: blew by Enrique Cruz like Enrique Cruz was me. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was just it was awesome to watch. And he
Speaker 3: beat Isaac al Arkhan like a drum.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Now, granted, the tackles that he'll be going up against
Speaker 3: are better than those guys, and these are two of
Speaker 3: the more raw offensive linemen going. But Iroanquo looked fantastic
Speaker 3: in his first San Francisco practice. And he's he's an
Speaker 3: interesting guy, you know. I mean, he played for Raheem
Speaker 3: in La. He was a damn good player at Oklahoma,
Speaker 3: and this guy can rush the passer a little undersize
Speaker 3: for what the Niners typically have used, but Raheem like
Speaker 3: smaller guys. And you know, this guy was in the
Speaker 3: wide nine at Cleveland for a couple of years. Last
Speaker 3: year he was in Philly, but he tore the tricep
Speaker 3: and that ended his year. But man, he looked fantastic today.
Speaker 3: Ogbo a wrong quo. I can't wait to see what
Speaker 3: Ogbo brings in the in the preseason. So that's an
Speaker 3: outside Russier and an inside rusher who looked really good.
Speaker 3: The other guy who had a hell of a day
Speaker 3: to day a couple guys on that defensive line, CJ.
Speaker 2: West. He had some amazing one on ones today, beat
Speaker 2: Brendle a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Romelo Height had a nice win against Austin Pleasants beat
Speaker 3: him for a sack. Romelo Height looked explosive. The kid
Speaker 3: they signed last week, Quinton Bell, who's got you know,
Speaker 3: four or five speed and he's just electric. He had
Speaker 3: a couple of really fantastic one on one reps.
Speaker 2: So the you don't want.
Speaker 3: To overreact because the D line to typically win the
Speaker 3: one on one reps against the O line. It's just
Speaker 3: the way it goes. It's kind of set up for
Speaker 3: the D lineman to win. But still a wrong quo
Speaker 3: and Halton showed the kind of juice that the Niners
Speaker 3: have lacked and need badly to have a good year.
Speaker 3: So that stood out today. The other guy who's really
Speaker 3: starting to stand out is Jordan Watkins, the second year
Speaker 3: receiver at Ole Miss. He made a number of plays today.
Speaker 3: Mac Jones had a beautiful pass to Watkins for a
Speaker 3: touchdown on a slant route in the red zone. Drill
Speaker 3: Jones also, I think had one of his better practices today,
Speaker 3: connected on a deep corner our deep crosser to d
Speaker 3: Rob DeMarcus Robinson. Jones made a number of really nice plays.
Speaker 3: You know, he's looking pretty good on the practice field.
Speaker 3: Is Junior Bergen, the second year return guy who didn't
Speaker 3: do anything last year and went to Montana. You know,
Speaker 3: he's a Montana State He was a Montana State bobcat
Speaker 3: so the SCS level and he just didn't adapt to
Speaker 3: the pros last year. This year, I mean, he looks
Speaker 3: like a trusted agent. I mean Brock Perty's going to
Speaker 3: him in the red zone and Bro's making plays. He
Speaker 3: caught a touchdown from Perty today. He made several nice catches.
Speaker 3: He had a diving catch. Junior Bergen, I have a
Speaker 3: feeling Junior Bergen in year two is going to make
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a name for himself. Well,
Speaker 3: we make the roster. It's still an uphill sled even
Speaker 3: with the injuries, but man, he looks like an NFL
Speaker 3: receiver and that's way more than he looked like last year.
Speaker 3: Nick Martin had a day today, a couple of nice
Speaker 3: plays on defense, Jadeen Dugger had a pick six interception,
Speaker 3: and Dougger is starting to feel himself in this defense.
Speaker 3: Darrell Looter has had a great camp and he had
Speaker 3: a PBu today in the end zone. And Jack Jones,
Speaker 3: just day after day after day just keeps making plays
Speaker 3: on the football. So he is a really nice addition
Speaker 3: to the secondary. So a lot of good things today
Speaker 3: in forty nine er Land. They also made a couple
Speaker 3: of additions they are The other thing that was kind
Speaker 3: of interesting is Robert Jones got reps with the Ones
Speaker 3: at left guard and I asked because I asked Firster
Speaker 3: about it after practice and he said, hey, that they
Speaker 3: were planning on mixing up inside and then all the
Speaker 3: injuries and they decided just to move Colby out. But
Speaker 3: at one point Firster said, Connor Colby still has work
Speaker 3: to do. So I know Matt Barrows came out with
Speaker 3: the article saying that you know, Colby is dominating the
Speaker 3: left guard competition and it's not much of a much
Speaker 3: of a race, and I would totally concur with Barrows
Speaker 3: until today.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: I think Robert Jones probably had his best day and
Speaker 3: he got reps with the Ones and we'll see where
Speaker 3: it goes. But I think they're looking for a competition there.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're looking to anoint anybody. I think
Speaker 3: they're looking for a competition. Brock Purdy had a great
Speaker 3: day to day.
Speaker 2: He was sharp.
Speaker 3: He had a dime on a slant rat to Jordan
Speaker 3: Watkins that was perfect. He hit Watkins for a touchdown
Speaker 3: on another route later.
Speaker 2: In the day.
Speaker 3: Will Pauling, the rookie from Notre Dame, had a really
Speaker 3: nice catch for Mac Jones. Fijian's Price Sock had a
Speaker 3: couple of PBUs to end the practice and Price Sock
Speaker 3: that was the first time I've really seen Price Sock
Speaker 3: kind of come of age. And then after practice we
Speaker 3: talked to Chris Firster. He said that Trent Williams is
Speaker 3: on a snap count. He says he does believe the
Speaker 3: Niners will still do the joint practices with the Titans
Speaker 3: despite all the injuries, and he said that he was
Speaker 3: pretty impressed by the two defensive tackles, Bryce and Esen
Speaker 3: and James Thompson and what they've shown that thus far.
Speaker 3: Then we talked up in Stout. He said that, you know,
Speaker 3: I said, what has motivated you? Because you attack your
Speaker 3: off season with just such such fire. It's awesome to watch.
Speaker 3: And he's like, man, I'm motivated by the doubters. I
Speaker 3: love that man. I love that guys hearing voices. That
Speaker 3: guy works hard. And then Jake Brendle hit the podium
Speaker 3: and I asked him about OsO Diggi Zua and he's like, man,
Speaker 3: I played with his brother at UCLA and Osa is
Speaker 3: the total package and really is tough to block, and
Speaker 3: really talked him up. So Osa has been a constant
Speaker 3: force out at these practices. Niners also worked out some
Speaker 3: players today, Donovan Peoples, Jones a wide receiver, Christian Wilkinson
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, ke On Smith a guard, Ryan Moreco
Speaker 3: a tackle, brand In Brandon Daniels a guard. All those
Speaker 3: guys worked out for the Niners. And then the Niners
Speaker 3: did sign Ogaronquo agbo Ocaronquo and Cadaryl Hodge. Hodge is
Speaker 3: interesting as well. He's another receiver played with the Rams,
Speaker 3: probably the connection to Raheem Again, he's thirty one, but
Speaker 3: he's a special teamer and the Niners are emphasizing getting
Speaker 3: good special teamers. And Cadaryl Hodge, you know, punt black guy.
Speaker 3: He's a veteran on the gunner team, on the special
Speaker 3: teams coverage units. I think he was a Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: special teamer in twenty twenty four, So I mean you're
Speaker 3: always looking for somebody who could be a difference maker
Speaker 3: on special teams on the back of your depth chart,
Speaker 3: and Cadaryl Hodge signed today. The one thing that's pretty
Speaker 3: clear looking at some of these pickups. Last year, they
Speaker 3: leaned on Robert Sala for a lot of his personnel expertise.
Speaker 3: He brought a lot of former Jets in Today, now
Speaker 3: they're leaning a lot on Raheem Morris, and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of x rams, a lot of ex falcons seeming
Speaker 3: like when they're on their list of guys that they're
Speaker 3: bringing in when they lose guys to injury in camp.
Speaker 3: So what does it mean, Well, it just means that
Speaker 3: they're given a lot of say to Raheem Morris as
Speaker 3: far as the personnel evaluation part of this part of
Speaker 3: this deal.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a time out.
Speaker 3: Up next, we're gonna talk a little Niner ball with
Speaker 3: Guy Haberman, who will be on the call this year
Speaker 3: on the Sports Leader.
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Niners Nightly.
Speaker 3: Larry Krueger joining you for Niners Nightly and with us
Speaker 3: the segment to talk a little Niner ball is one
Speaker 3: of our favorites. Guy Haberman, who's gonna be on the
Speaker 3: call this year for forty nine er football. Guy, great
Speaker 3: to see him, man, awesome, Awesome to be down here
Speaker 3: at training camp and getting a chance to watch him
Speaker 3: Niner football. Even though we got a largely injured roster
Speaker 3: out of the shoot.
Speaker 4: Here, doesn't feel like we've lived a month in like
Speaker 4: a week and a half.
Speaker 1: In running football.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like I remember this team before Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 4: I'm old enough, you know. Bill Walton used to do
Speaker 4: this joke, right, Are you old enough? You'd be like,
Speaker 4: let's say Larry Krueger had three foulsand was sitting for
Speaker 4: ten minutes in a bathroom, be like, are you old
Speaker 4: enough to remember Larry Krueger.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel.
Speaker 4: I'm old enough to remember the Niners without Deebo Sanders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this year? What do you think I mean?
Speaker 3: On one hand, the Pearcel injuries is significant, right, because
Speaker 3: he's got the PCL, he's gonna need surgery. And then
Speaker 3: Mikyle Kamara Torre's achilles, so obviously that's a fruit, pretty
Speaker 3: serious injury. But there's a lot of quad poles, hamstring poles,
Speaker 3: things that like I mean, Chris Furster are total st
Speaker 3: after practice. Some of these guys, if there were games,
Speaker 3: would be playing. But when you see some of the
Speaker 3: guys going down, it's almost like precautionary stribblings out hamstring tightness.
Speaker 1: Could he go? He might be able to go.
Speaker 3: Mike Evans the same thing kind of thing, you know,
Speaker 3: quad tightness. You don't want to rip anything. But I
Speaker 3: think some of these injuries and some of these guys
Speaker 3: missing time right now.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of preventative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interesting to see Romellow height back with
Speaker 4: like you know, just like a break on his arm
Speaker 4: or whatever, because you don't really see it that much
Speaker 4: in practice. Right, that's what you've seen in a game.
Speaker 4: I would love that designation, right, Like could ousa play
Speaker 4: in a game today? Could Mike Evans play in a
Speaker 4: game today? Could you check playing a game today? But
Speaker 4: it does feel that way and it does feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, once that happens with a guy, particularly guy
Speaker 4: like Mike Evans, you're just not gonna see him until
Speaker 4: it really matters, Right, That's the way it feels.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, he'll practice, I would expect at some point.
Speaker 4: But you know, the reality too, is this team this year,
Speaker 4: it's just different because you lose the week of rest
Speaker 4: because of the travel to Australia. Right, So you go
Speaker 4: from usually resting for that week between the end of
Speaker 4: the third preseason game and the first regular season game
Speaker 4: to now like needing to actively recover from the flight,
Speaker 4: and you know, trying to use that practice that week.
Speaker 4: It's sort of a little bit more of a practice time.
Speaker 4: So I think everything that happens between now and then
Speaker 4: is affected by that, Like every decision they make about
Speaker 4: player health, the way they're practicing. All of those things,
Speaker 4: to me are probably a reflection of the domino effect
Speaker 4: working backwards from spending a week in Australia.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, because I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: The Rams are gonna fly in on the ninth, play
Speaker 3: the game on the tenth, and then get right back
Speaker 3: on the burden.
Speaker 4: Lying on the ninth in Australia.
Speaker 1: The ninth then that I don't know, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: basically fly in or play fly out there. You know
Speaker 1: they're talking about you know, we're Navy seals.
Speaker 3: You know we're going to go in and do our deal,
Speaker 3: do our deal and get out where the Niners are
Speaker 3: going in nine days early.
Speaker 1: They're going to acclimate to the time difference.
Speaker 3: It's a seventeen hour travel, I believe our difference between
Speaker 3: Melbourne time and specific Standard time.
Speaker 1: It's also about a sixteen hour flight.
Speaker 3: I mean, I almost feel like whoever wins the game
Speaker 3: is not just gonna win the game, They're also going
Speaker 3: to kind of win the This is how you prepare
Speaker 3: for Australia.
Speaker 4: Debate which way which way it hurts to lose more
Speaker 4: when you spend a week out there or when you
Speaker 4: came in the night before. Probably when you spend a
Speaker 4: week out I think spending a week out there, I
Speaker 4: mean I think, I don't. I don't think the way
Speaker 4: they're traveling tells us that one team cares more than
Speaker 4: the other. I think the Rams did it and it worked.
Speaker 4: Weren't the Jags in London for like two weeks when
Speaker 4: the Rams were out there the morning of the game
Speaker 4: and beat them. But you know, I do think from
Speaker 4: the nine you think back to how important beating the
Speaker 4: Rams on Thursday Night football last year was. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I mean, my guess is that whoever the Niners were
Speaker 4: playing in Week one, they would treat it the same way.
Speaker 4: But it does feel like, you know, it only highlights
Speaker 4: the importance of this game, right, how significant it would
Speaker 4: be to beat the Rams week one, knowing what you
Speaker 4: have coming up after that with three straight home games,
Speaker 4: and it is fascinating. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The other part of it is the game is ten
Speaker 4: thirty am there, right, so that's so unnatural. Will it
Speaker 4: feel more natural to the Rams because they haven't been there,
Speaker 4: because they'll bardy clocks will beyond primetime West Coast time?
Speaker 4: Or will it feel more natural than Niners because maybe
Speaker 4: they've slept. I don't know. But that's the other factor
Speaker 4: that really you're not just traveling, you're playing it at
Speaker 4: a weird time, right.
Speaker 1: It's a coin flip. I mean.
Speaker 3: I kind of like the vibe that I kind of
Speaker 3: like the vibe of let's fly in there at the
Speaker 3: last second and not get you know, let's have regular,
Speaker 3: everything's regular in our schedule until the flight, and then
Speaker 3: let's try to react to the flight and play the game.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the RAMS approach.
Speaker 2: A little bit more.
Speaker 3: But but the Fortinitars feel very confident that they that
Speaker 3: they feel like they've done the studies and that they
Speaker 3: need to get some you know, acclimate to the time
Speaker 3: difference and the travel. The Rams sent a contingent of
Speaker 3: people also to Melbourne and this is what they came
Speaker 3: up with. I mean, it's riveting because it's the Rams
Speaker 3: and the Niners are truly the NFL's guinea pigs on
Speaker 3: Australia and this travel and teams are going to watch
Speaker 3: very closely to see, you know, how these teams play
Speaker 3: in the game and maybe more importantly, how they look
Speaker 3: in week two, three and four coming out of the game.
Speaker 1: What if both the Niners and Rams are horrible, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the month coming out of the game, we may never.
Speaker 2: See a game in Australia ever.
Speaker 1: Again, well, somebody will have lost.
Speaker 4: As long as somebody wins and somebody loses, the NFL's happy, right, right,
Speaker 4: as long as they finish that game. I don't hear
Speaker 4: what happens Week's two, three, four, five. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, if the game, the one thing that as
Speaker 4: it relates to the travel is like, if the game
Speaker 4: is twenty seven twenty four final, did the team that
Speaker 4: won the game definitely travel a better way? Or did
Speaker 4: somebody win in somebody long? Now, if it's forty one
Speaker 4: to ten, that's a different story. Sure, you know, it's
Speaker 4: a good point. So I think I want to be
Speaker 4: a little careful, like when it plays out, it's not
Speaker 4: always gonna be about someone just might have made a play, right,
Speaker 4: but it is. I mean, I you may know the score,
Speaker 4: I don't recall, but I think the Rams kind of
Speaker 4: blew the doors off the Jags in London when they
Speaker 4: went out there. Of course the Rams also were probably, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're a better team.
Speaker 1: They're better team. They you know, they maybe the best team,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jags definitely were not.
Speaker 4: The other part of it, too, is like it's Raheem
Speaker 4: and Kyle and McVeigh and how well these guys know
Speaker 4: each other. Yeah, and so Raheem's coming in with a
Speaker 4: defensive system that Shawn's familiar with, but it is new
Speaker 4: to the Niners. Sewan's thirteen personnels, you know, taking a
Speaker 4: link by storm. Everyone's talking about thirteen personnel. Is he
Speaker 4: really gonna is he gonna change up? Is he gonna
Speaker 4: throw a curveball? Week one feels like he probably will
Speaker 4: do something right. That's different. These two teams playing Week one,
Speaker 4: just that in and of itself is really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because of how well they know each other, you know,
Speaker 4: and then you factor in the Australia part, it's even
Speaker 4: it's even more interesting.
Speaker 3: And I also think it's vitally important. I mean, they
Speaker 3: look at the Niners schedule at the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna the Niners need to bank wins
Speaker 3: in September and look at the Rams.
Speaker 1: You know, if the Rams somehow.
Speaker 3: Stumble in that game, they get the Giants the next week,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a national TV game on the road.
Speaker 3: I believe if they wind up starting oh in too,
Speaker 3: the Rams, you know, the pressure could mount because the
Speaker 3: expectations are very high.
Speaker 1: It's a Super Bowl season for the Rams.
Speaker 3: They're hoping and if they dropped to zero and two
Speaker 3: to start the year for whatever reason, man, it could
Speaker 3: be a five alarm fire in LA.
Speaker 4: You also feel it's kind of great Can you win
Speaker 4: without Kittle? If Kittle's not playing that game, is mikel
Speaker 4: gonna be able to make that trip? Michael Williams, well
Speaker 4: he playing that game. Can you win without them? You know?
Speaker 4: Like I think that's also you feel really good. I
Speaker 4: think you know that Rams game last year was so important.
Speaker 4: It was also such an exhale because you found a
Speaker 4: way to win without your full compliment. It was a
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne game. It was like Mac Jones is throwing
Speaker 4: up and Pignero's got to hit these clutch kicks, and
Speaker 4: you know, Alfred Collins makes the play in the year
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff, And so you know,
Speaker 4: when you can win, I think, especially early without your
Speaker 4: full team or without all your stars, it's there's a
Speaker 4: confidence that comes from it that's really important.
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk a little bit about you mentioned
Speaker 3: Raheem Morris. Why don't we start on the defensive side
Speaker 3: of the ball and talk about Raheem. He's He's been
Speaker 3: a great addition so far. I think the secondary is
Speaker 3: looking really really more cohesive.
Speaker 1: In a very short amount of time.
Speaker 3: I feel like all three levels of the defense have
Speaker 3: been impacted by Raheem. You know, today the Niners brought
Speaker 3: in ogbot Ocuronquo, why do they bring him in?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he he's got.
Speaker 3: Experience playing for Raheem, so right, Raheem's.
Speaker 1: Having an impact on the roster.
Speaker 3: I think he had an impact on the draft, definitely
Speaker 3: had an impact on some of the undrafted free agents.
Speaker 1: What do you see so far with Raheem Morris.
Speaker 4: It's interesting where you hear the players say in terms
Speaker 4: of like now you know, this is the time of
Speaker 4: year where you say, like, oh, this system is so
Speaker 4: much better than the last system, and this one's tailored
Speaker 4: to me, and this is where I do things well.
Speaker 4: But I mean the rally was it didn't work last
Speaker 4: year and it wasn't Robert Solad's fault. The injuries were devastating.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can't get a pass rush, whether
Speaker 4: you're playing simple or if you're playing complicated, either one
Speaker 4: is going to blow up. Right this year, if you're
Speaker 4: playing a more simplistic offense in terms of ready reacts
Speaker 4: for your secondary, that's gonna blow up if they don't
Speaker 4: have a pass rush. And last year, definitely it was
Speaker 4: really hard. You're not gonna confuse any quarterbacks without a
Speaker 4: pass rush. So like hearing we just heard Jake Brendle talk.
Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting him talking about how
Speaker 4: we're getting to see every front there is now and
Speaker 4: that wasn't always the case, and that mat You know,
Speaker 4: that mental tax in camp pays off during the season,
Speaker 4: So I mean that's one kind of side benefit so
Speaker 4: far with Raheem. I think also like we we so
Speaker 4: badly you think about like the twenty nineteen you so
Speaker 4: badly want them to be just like this badass defense
Speaker 4: that just gets after the quarterback and is just it's
Speaker 4: it's simple because it's talented. And really, if they could
Speaker 4: just raise the floor from last year to being a
Speaker 4: you know, can they be like a top Can they
Speaker 4: be like fringy tenth to fourteenth on defense because they're
Speaker 4: always so efficient on offense that that would be a major, major,
Speaker 4: major improvement. And you know, whether or not Raheem gets
Speaker 4: another shot at being a head coach, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But even if he does, it probably takes a couple
Speaker 4: of years. Oh that's what we thought about Salad and
Speaker 4: he got one real fast. But the idea that you
Speaker 4: could solidify your defense and do it with some maybe
Speaker 4: long term continuity because Colin Raheem has such a good
Speaker 4: relationship I think is it's kind of perfect.
Speaker 3: The defense gets a I thought, a huge break in
Speaker 3: being able to acquire OsO Diggy Zoo, and you don't
Speaker 3: typically get defensive tackles that are healthy in the prime
Speaker 3: of their career, you know, just traded to your team.
Speaker 3: It just rarely happens. But the Cowboys obliged. They send
Speaker 3: him away. They had brought in Kinney Clark, they had
Speaker 3: brought in Quinn Williams, and those guys were kind of
Speaker 3: the new flavor of the month, despite the fact that
Speaker 3: Osa really outperformed those two guys last year in Dallas.
Speaker 1: But Osa is now a forty nine er. We talked
Speaker 1: to him the other day, very intense guy.
Speaker 3: I just asked Jake Brendle about him, and he's like, Hey,
Speaker 3: he's strong, he's really quick, and he's smart. He'll recognize
Speaker 3: if you're if your stance is a little different or
Speaker 3: a little off, and he'll notice the nuances you What
Speaker 3: do you think so far of OsO Digizua and what
Speaker 3: he's what he looks like, and what he may add
Speaker 3: to this defense.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he adds a ton. I think
Speaker 4: you noticed it right away the first time he saw
Speaker 4: him on the feeling oh my god, look at this guy.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just when you see guys in person,
Speaker 4: it's so different. I don't know the first guy you
Speaker 4: remember seeing in person going, oh my god, I remember
Speaker 4: seeing Carson Palmer in person for the first time on
Speaker 4: the field, seeing Peyton in person, pregame on the field,
Speaker 4: just oh my, these guys are He's so big, and
Speaker 4: those guys are big by big standards when it comes
Speaker 4: to quarterbacking. And when you see Osa standing next to
Speaker 4: other defensive line and he's not like you know, you
Speaker 4: used to see Buckner in Armstead and you got those
Speaker 4: guys are so tall. Osa, the way he is built,
Speaker 4: it reminds me a little bit of when you see
Speaker 4: Trent Williams, Like all these guys are big, freak athletes
Speaker 4: on the offensive line, but Trent is actually built a
Speaker 4: little differently. And that's say you feel about Osa because
Speaker 4: of his length and his the way he's just so cut.
Speaker 4: His lower half its cut, his calves are cut, his
Speaker 4: arms are cut. You just notice that he is among
Speaker 4: the one percenters, like a one percenter physically, and then
Speaker 4: when the mental matches up and the effort matches up
Speaker 4: and the production matches up. You're right, it really is crazy.
Speaker 4: You don't just get teams to give you players like that. So,
Speaker 4: I mean you think about like the keys of this team.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of keys, but I think that guy
Speaker 4: is gonna change the game for them on defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to hear you and Tim Ryan.
Speaker 3: You know, Tim is a former defensive out. He's so
Speaker 3: great and and I loved him. Tim's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite guys. He's got a sling. He looks like he's
Speaker 3: got a little for elbow or shoulder injury or something.
Speaker 1: But I'm really interested to hear what he.
Speaker 3: Thinks of Osa in this defense as a former defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Tim was so strong, you played
Speaker 3: it like two ninety five. This guy Osa is incredibly strong,
Speaker 3: but he's also one of the fastest defensive tackles we've
Speaker 3: seen the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, he's revolutionized the position.
Speaker 3: They're bigger guys, as you stated, but man as far
Speaker 3: as speed, one of.
Speaker 1: The faster defensive tackles in pro football.
Speaker 3: And I'm really eager to see, you know, Tim's reaction
Speaker 3: to Osa and the total package of what he contributes.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great radio.
Speaker 4: He already told me. I said, I said they got
Speaker 4: Bosa and they had Osa, and he's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Pros, Well, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: That's Tims, that's times, that's all. That's all t Rocks.
Speaker 4: Uh So, But explain to me, like, from your perspective,
Speaker 4: you think Osa looks quick off the line to you,
Speaker 4: is that what you talk about when you talk about speed?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I just think that
Speaker 3: when you're you know, everything's everything matters so much more
Speaker 3: in a confined space. And I just I just think
Speaker 3: that Osa looks like a guy that you have to double,
Speaker 3: and you got to double Bosa and now you've got
Speaker 3: to double os OsO Diggi Zua.
Speaker 1: When you have one guy in a line that needs
Speaker 1: to be doubled, man, that helps. But when you have two, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: That whole new world.
Speaker 1: And I just think that once we give them the meat potatoes,
Speaker 1: Osa and Bosa.
Speaker 3: Are both gonna have to be doubled or it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a long day for the opposation.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, Mike Michael Williams could really use it
Speaker 4: year like that yeah, playing next to guys like that,
Speaker 4: you know, so could Alfred so get on yes, exactly,
Speaker 4: so he gets one on ones. You know, you'd love
Speaker 4: to see a guy, especially coming off the injury like Mikeel,
Speaker 4: just like have some some the traditional success, meaning like sacks.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not necessarily how he's gonna be judged. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not exactly what he's here for, but I mean
Speaker 4: to have that production, the confidence that comes with it,
Speaker 4: the opportunity to play free and you know, like not
Speaker 4: have to. It's so funny how quickly, and I think
Speaker 4: it's happened with mikel how quickly you go from like
Speaker 4: hey he's a rookie, let's just see how it goes,
Speaker 4: to well, they need him if something happens to him there,
Speaker 4: it's a big problem.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: But he hasn't played that much NFL football, So I'm
Speaker 4: playing next to Bosa and Osa. I think he is
Speaker 4: the guy that I think of, you know, like, God,
Speaker 4: what what a gift if he can really if he
Speaker 4: could play seventeen games with those guys or close to it,
Speaker 4: maybe fifteen, that'd be pretty special for him, you know,
Speaker 4: you just because it helps us know, like do you
Speaker 4: have it. You played it to those guys and you
Speaker 4: produce like you probably got if you know, it may
Speaker 4: not be the answer, right if you play it to
Speaker 4: those guys and you don't produce. So it'd be great
Speaker 4: for the evaluation.
Speaker 3: You've been out here practice all summer on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball. Is there anybody that has stood
Speaker 3: out to you on any of the three levels of
Speaker 3: the defense?
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I won't try to lead you in any direction, but
Speaker 1: just on account of.
Speaker 4: Three, say who you're gonna leave me to?
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to ask you about green Law.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think great, and that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: But Bernardo Green has been much improved. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: he looks like a totally different player. We saw him
Speaker 3: getting yelled at on the sideline by Shanahan and Seattle.
Speaker 3: He came back and when we talked to him at
Speaker 3: the podium, he's like preaching accountability and I mean literally,
Speaker 3: guy was exactly the kind of things that you wanted
Speaker 3: to hear from Guy. And it just seems like the
Speaker 3: marriage between I mean Raheem Morris and.
Speaker 1: Ronardo Green and a couple other guys too, Durrel Louder.
Speaker 3: It just seems like there's some of these young dbs
Speaker 3: are thriving Underheim.
Speaker 4: I thought Leonor had a really good perspective on Ronardo
Speaker 4: as well, Like basically what you just said was echoed
Speaker 4: by Leonor and his evaluation of Ernardo, so that it'd
Speaker 4: be a big deal. You know, it'd be a big
Speaker 4: deal Fernardo could be. I mean, he's gonna be the
Speaker 4: other starting corner, there's no question about it, second round pick.
Speaker 4: But can he yeah, can can he kind of fulfill that?
Speaker 4: It'd be a huge deal for them if you know,
Speaker 4: like you're just rolling out Leonor, Ronardo and Upton stout
Speaker 4: every week and you can just now they're not big, right,
Speaker 4: but if you can just rely on those guys to
Speaker 4: really be I think they're all kind of similar in
Speaker 4: terms of mindset, which I think is good.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I think it really benefited up then last year. So
Speaker 4: Ronardo to me is the guys that I went into
Speaker 4: the offseason thinking boy Stock is down, and I've come
Speaker 4: back thinking Stock is it up? You mentioned green Law.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to back from him, and I
Speaker 4: still you know, the book is far from written. Like
Speaker 4: we got to see him playing games and consistently stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Didn't practice today.
Speaker 4: Didn't practice today, But I thought from the first practice,
Speaker 4: I think you made the first play in the first practice.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, he looks good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says he feels good.
Speaker 4: I mean it looks good, just like Demo looks good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like Dimo looks good. So you know, I'm optimistic about
Speaker 4: those those two guys for sure. You know we mentioned
Speaker 4: oh so Fred obviously. You know, Nick Martin's been in
Speaker 4: a lot of reps, which is interesting. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I'll be very exciting if he could come of age.
Speaker 4: They don't, they're not going to probably have that many linebackers. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Jayden Dugger had a good practice today, had an interception.
Speaker 3: He's starting to make some plays. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: wide swath of opinions on whether or not Jayden Dugger's
Speaker 3: ready to go or he's the youngest guy on the team.
Speaker 1: He might not be ready to go. He might just
Speaker 1: be a special teamer. But KG Wright loves him really yeah,
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 4: Well. I mean, if you can, if you use one
Speaker 4: that like, tell me he makes the fifty three and
Speaker 4: I'm happy, right, It means he's trending in the right direction.
Speaker 3: One more on the defensive side of the ball, or
Speaker 3: really just more about one of the criticisms I keep hearing.
Speaker 1: I heard from Chris Sims the other day they're too old.
Speaker 1: They're too old.
Speaker 3: And I think one of the questions I had guy
Speaker 3: coming into this campus to the old crew Trent, CMC, Kittle,
Speaker 3: bos Greenlaw, Warner Evans to a degree, do these guys
Speaker 3: look old or do they are? They they're all great players,
Speaker 3: do they still got it? Or have they crested the
Speaker 3: hill and they're really the name on the back of
Speaker 3: the jersey is just a distant memory of what they
Speaker 3: used to be.
Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest, I kind of think that
Speaker 1: to a man. Obviously, we haven't seen Kittle yet.
Speaker 3: The rest of these guys look to me to be
Speaker 3: at their level. I'm not seeing slippage now. It's July
Speaker 3: and August, so maybe we'll see it late in the year.
Speaker 3: But I think that the Niners core of great players
Speaker 3: looks primed and in shape for one more good year.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll be better than they've been,
Speaker 3: Probably not, but I don't think there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: gigantic drop off any of their star guys, that's just
Speaker 3: kind of what I'm seeing here.
Speaker 1: But you know what do you see?
Speaker 4: Well? They are older, so it's yeah, but they look good.
Speaker 4: I mean Fred, And guess what if it looked like
Speaker 4: last year one of the best linebackers, maybe the best
Speaker 4: linebacker in the league, Christian. You know, I thought Christian
Speaker 4: had it a really good year in ways that were
Speaker 4: different than the other really good years he's had. Last
Speaker 4: year was such a grind for him, and you know,
Speaker 4: I thought he turned you look on paper, you get
Speaker 4: you's got three three point one or three point two,
Speaker 4: but to me, a lot of those three point two
Speaker 4: when it should have been two point two, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, so I thought, you know, you
Speaker 4: tell me you get that Christian again, great sign. You know,
Speaker 4: I think they would sign up for that immediately. It's
Speaker 4: part of being great is even if you're now ninety
Speaker 4: percent of what you are, ninety five percent of what
Speaker 4: you were, you're still better than a lot of people.
Speaker 4: And he's just so useful, like he's elited so many things. Trent, No,
Speaker 4: these guys look, look, friend's the easiest one to tell
Speaker 4: because and Christian. I guess Christian too, But they look
Speaker 4: the same to me. I mean, they look really good.
Speaker 4: They really do.
Speaker 3: I mean I would sit here and I would gladly
Speaker 3: say in state, and I don't know what Mike Evans
Speaker 3: looked like in practice, but I'm yeah, when I watched him, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's probably.
Speaker 4: What Mike Evans looks like in practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have that perspective of knowing Mike
Speaker 3: Evans in practice in past years. But the rest of
Speaker 3: these guys look about to the level that we all
Speaker 3: would all expect. Let's talk about the offense before we
Speaker 3: finish up here. Rock Party's heading into year five. He
Speaker 3: looks like he's still getting better. I thought he had
Speaker 3: a tremendous day today connecting with a number of different receivers.
Speaker 3: I expect Perdy to look pretty good.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is the big question.
Speaker 3: There's a lot more speed at receiver, maybe even a
Speaker 3: little bit more speed at.
Speaker 1: Running back with Kaylon Black.
Speaker 3: How do you see the offense this year with you know,
Speaker 3: basically the same crew except for a totally remade receiving.
Speaker 1: Poor that's a lot faster.
Speaker 4: I'm with you on Brock. I think Brock's quietly looked
Speaker 4: really good in this camp. Maybe not quietly. I don't know,
Speaker 4: and I do think one of the underrated storylines of
Speaker 4: the year is this. He is an he is at
Speaker 4: an age when quarterbacks keep getting better, right, so he's
Speaker 4: not a finished product at this point. He'll turn what
Speaker 4: twenty seven on December twenty seventh, which is the day
Speaker 4: that Niners play the Chiefs in Kansas City. It's a Saturday, nice,
Speaker 4: but this is at a time when quarterbacks keep getting better, Like,
Speaker 4: he's still athletically in his prime. So as you mentally
Speaker 4: get stronger it, you know you can your body can
Speaker 4: match it as opposed to win. You're thirty five as
Speaker 4: a quarterback in your boy at camp unless you're Tom
Speaker 4: So I'm with Yon Brock like, I think he's looked
Speaker 4: good and I expect be a better player this year
Speaker 4: than he was last year. My other kind of take
Speaker 4: crew that I've developed in the last twenty four hours
Speaker 4: is new fresh Ta is a fresh take, but I've
Speaker 4: now this is like the third time I've repeated.
Speaker 1: It, A fresh take on repeat.
Speaker 4: A fresh yeah is I haven't fully vetted it yet,
Speaker 4: but Mike Evans, Debo, McCaffrey, Kittle, those four I think
Speaker 4: it could be the best red zone scoring offense of
Speaker 4: the Kyle Shanahan era, because Evans is obvious, an obvious threat. Kittle,
Speaker 4: who was not great in the red zone early in
Speaker 4: his career, has become a weapon in the red zone
Speaker 4: Debo last year had five touchdowns on seventeen red zone touches.
Speaker 4: And obviously Christian changes the game when he's in the
Speaker 4: game on the red zone, when he's in the when
Speaker 4: he's healthy, changes the red zone like he did last year.
Speaker 4: When the Niners went from bad two years ago, they're
Speaker 4: really good and scoring touchdowns in the red zone last year.
Speaker 4: So those four plus you add the ability of Brock
Speaker 4: to scram a little bit, like I think you get
Speaker 4: you let those guys get in the red I asked
Speaker 4: you about josh Dii Bautaday. I said, what is the
Speaker 4: what do you think the Niners average touchdown distance was
Speaker 4: last year? And he looked it up and he said
Speaker 4: they were last in the league. It was like eight
Speaker 4: point something yards. So they you know, they were not
Speaker 4: an explosive offense. Like right, they didn't do anything explosive
Speaker 4: on well second and sure like where the Rams have
Speaker 4: explosive plays, the Niners don't. They just picked try to
Speaker 4: pick up the first down, So you'd love to be
Speaker 4: more explosive. But scoring in the red zone was a
Speaker 4: major one of the big keys last season going into
Speaker 4: the year, and they solved the problem. So I like
Speaker 4: to me efficiency is never the question with the Shanagan offense,
Speaker 4: but can you score in the red zone? And I
Speaker 4: think they could be really good, even better than they
Speaker 4: were last year scoring in the red zone. But I
Speaker 4: do think the big question remains, like does Evans and
Speaker 4: stribbling can they make them more explosive. That's where I
Speaker 4: think losing Ricky Piersoll really hurts. Is Ricky for you know,
Speaker 4: some guy games. It might be forty yards and some
Speaker 4: of it might be one twenty. But Ricky Piersoll was explosive.
Speaker 4: I think underrated, trusted by brock Yeah or mac mack.
Speaker 4: He had the fourth down, fourth and two and by
Speaker 4: the team fourth and two conversion down the right sideline
Speaker 4: against the Arizona Cardinals, they took a shot to Ricky
Speaker 4: Pearsall on fourth and short in that game. He converted
Speaker 4: a fourth down in the was in the Eagles playoff game.
Speaker 4: There was another big oh it was the Bears game.
Speaker 4: He had a big fourth down conversion in the Bears game,
Speaker 4: so I think they I think it's a little underrated
Speaker 4: how trusted Ricky was when he was on the field,
Speaker 4: and so that's where Evans and stribbling. But yeah, that's there.
Speaker 4: Could if it could be a little more explosive this year,
Speaker 4: I think that would be kind of the next level
Speaker 4: of this offense. And then I think Deebo maybe Devo
Speaker 4: alleviates a little bit of the touches for Christian not
Speaker 4: necessarily in the run game, but maybe in the short
Speaker 4: passing game.
Speaker 1: A couple of quick hitters on the way out. Kittle,
Speaker 1: if you had your druthers.
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch came to you and said, hey, guy,
Speaker 3: what week should we should we play?
Speaker 1: George Kittle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, thanks for asking.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he wants to be back week one,
Speaker 3: but if it was me, I'd say week five, Week four.
Speaker 1: I'm saying bye, week I want to play.
Speaker 3: I want up to Georgia by week Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: say like week eight, week nine. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: nine months, nine to twelve months is what I think
Speaker 3: he should heal. That would be like eight and a
Speaker 3: half months. Yeah, so'll be coming back a little soon,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to see him there. Week one,
Speaker 3: I don't want to see him Week two, I don't
Speaker 3: want to see him in the first month. I don't
Speaker 3: want to see him in September. I may not even
Speaker 3: want to see him in October. I've been seeing I
Speaker 3: would hide his helmet until Halloween and then give it
Speaker 3: to him with a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of candy in it.
Speaker 4: It's a great idea. I mean, it's especially if if
Speaker 4: you can win that Rams game and then you come
Speaker 4: home and you feel good, maybe you can win those three.
Speaker 1: And conscises up has looked really good on this practice field.
Speaker 4: Part of it is like Juice didn't practice day with
Speaker 4: a broken finger. That's where you.
Speaker 1: Like, you know us.
Speaker 4: Jack said at the other day, it's like somebody asked
Speaker 4: him about man, what you asked?
Speaker 3: I said, are you going to get more run at
Speaker 3: tight end with Kittle out? And He's like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of a jack of all trades. I used to
Speaker 3: be a third down receiver, but we had to see him,
Speaker 3: see him no longer third down receiver.
Speaker 4: And I think they're doing more of it with him,
Speaker 4: a little bit more of it even with Kittle, So
Speaker 4: I like losing him. Really, I think affects the ability
Speaker 4: to I mean again, maybe he's back soon. Maybe he's back,
Speaker 4: and I don't know, but you said quick hutter. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love to win the first four games
Speaker 4: and then you can really sit on George for a
Speaker 4: little while. But you know, George like he's gonna want
Speaker 4: to play this, he wants to be back. I gotta
Speaker 4: look at the turf schedule after the Giants game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tofurbly keep him off the bad turf.
Speaker 3: Shanahan's injury from the car crash something nothing, something major?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: I mean, forget about him and his family and his health.
Speaker 3: That's all just for the people who were talking about
Speaker 3: the Niners. And how does it affect football? Do you
Speaker 3: see this being a big deal, a little deal or
Speaker 3: no deal as far as the impact on the team, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it depends how long he's out.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen him more and more in practice.
Speaker 4: Is he coaching week one? Does he get a headache
Speaker 4: on the plane to Australia? You know that sort of
Speaker 4: thing that's concerning sure, just sure, because uh you know,
Speaker 4: I think you know Kyle got named somebody did a
Speaker 4: list through the day, like the top play callers, and
Speaker 4: of course like he he he was number one, you
Speaker 4: see that list. Yeah yeah, but of course, like fine,
Speaker 4: or it could be three, or it could be two,
Speaker 4: or but like he gets so much credit for the
Speaker 4: play calling. I think he doesn't get enough credit for
Speaker 4: his leadership. Like you think back, this is your ten.
Speaker 4: When you think back to him being a coaching candidate,
Speaker 4: the big knock was he's hard to work with. You know,
Speaker 4: he's not going to be like basically like will he
Speaker 4: run a real good culture or is he like too
Speaker 4: entitled or too mean or whatever it is, And like
Speaker 4: the results are in he establishes a good culture. I
Speaker 4: think it's a little underrated what a good leader he
Speaker 4: is and what a good overall football guy he is.
Speaker 4: Like the football team, full team meetings that he holds
Speaker 4: our legendary, like the players talk about it.
Speaker 1: He teaches.
Speaker 4: I don't want to call him Belichick, but it sounds
Speaker 4: it's like the same stuff you hear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a teacher of the game of special team,
Speaker 3: special teams.
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've heard that there's no phase of the game
Speaker 3: that Kyle doesn't kind of take the lead in from
Speaker 3: time to time.
Speaker 4: I just think he's so because he rightfully gets so
Speaker 4: much credit as a play caller, he gets a little
Speaker 4: underrated as an overall CEO football coach. And to me
Speaker 4: that it's not that like that that's where you just
Speaker 4: lose him, you know, and the player this time of year,
Speaker 4: having Fred Warner and having Christian mccaff like Brock Purty,
Speaker 4: that's all great to me. Players can only hold it
Speaker 4: together for so long, Like you still need the CA
Speaker 4: there's still can Like when I see a company with
Speaker 4: co CEO, someone's like, oh sell Like no, right, Like
Speaker 4: it's just it's it's a nice idea for a little while,
Speaker 4: but it can't last forever. Yeah, And Kyle is so
Speaker 4: clearly the boss, and not just because he was hired
Speaker 4: to be the boss, but because he's earned he earns
Speaker 4: it from the players. They just trust him so much, rightfully,
Speaker 4: and they tell us about it. So like, I think
Speaker 4: that's a major loss that you can you can sustain
Speaker 4: it for a little Like if you told me it
Speaker 4: was out till week eight, I go, I don't think
Speaker 4: he can sustain that. I just think he's too important. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I agree, No matter how great your leadership is or
Speaker 4: how well your coaching staff knows that. It's just there
Speaker 4: are too many moments where a head coach has to
Speaker 4: step up and be the head.
Speaker 1: Coach, and especially when he's to play.
Speaker 4: Caller, especially when he's to play caller. But I'm just
Speaker 4: talking about all the other stuff. Also, yeah, and and
Speaker 4: I think he's so he's excellent. He's truly excellent at it.
Speaker 4: So like right now, it's great. It looks like it's
Speaker 4: trending in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Man, I can't get out of here without giving him
Speaker 3: one Guy Haberman question. I'm a big Guy Haberman fan.
Speaker 3: So you're in year two doing Niner games. You're one
Speaker 3: as a dad. I thought that's where you're going.
Speaker 1: You're one as a dad.
Speaker 3: Congratulations on that as a dad who's said I'm a
Speaker 3: dad four times over.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, enjoy.
Speaker 3: This these young ages, my my, how old your youngest
Speaker 3: like eight months?
Speaker 1: Nine months?
Speaker 3: Okay, so my oldest is twenty six, And I mean
Speaker 3: it just goes by, and so it's excited blink of
Speaker 3: an idea. So you and your wife enjoyed, enjoy your
Speaker 3: baby and your and your little your young and growing family.
Speaker 3: But I got to ask you one question because I'm
Speaker 3: a big fan of you as a broadcaster.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're doing doing the games with Tim Ryan, You've.
Speaker 3: Worked in big time college football, you've covered other major
Speaker 3: sports broadcasting the NFL from year one?
Speaker 1: Is there one thing that you either gleaned.
Speaker 3: Learned something that you think is really valuable Because there's
Speaker 3: a lot of young broadcasters.
Speaker 1: I get this, I'm sure you get this.
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to be the next Greg Popa, I
Speaker 3: want to be the next Tim Ryan.
Speaker 1: I want to be the next Guy Aberman. How do
Speaker 1: I do it? What do I do? What do I emphasize?
Speaker 3: I always try to get a question in for the
Speaker 3: for the young future broadcasters, give them a hint of
Speaker 3: what this experience has been like for you and maybe
Speaker 3: something that you learned in your one.
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's first of all, say it's so cliche.
Speaker 4: It's so true anytime somebody's filling in for somebody like
Speaker 4: you know, I can't fill his shoes. But it's part
Speaker 4: of what made an easy transition to fill in for
Speaker 4: Greg last year. And I learned this lesson last year
Speaker 4: because I thought this is what I should do, and
Speaker 4: then I felt like it worked and so filling in
Speaker 4: for Greg again this she'll do the same thing. He
Speaker 4: is just I have so much respect for him. He
Speaker 4: is so excellent at every facet. He is a complete broadcaster,
Speaker 4: like every facet. We could get really nerdy and talk
Speaker 4: about all the technical but just like everything that it
Speaker 4: was so obvious to me immediately, like, don't even bother
Speaker 4: trying to be like Greg. You know, I hadn't called
Speaker 4: radio since like two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 1: Probably like high school. High school animal.
Speaker 4: It's a totally different animal. I've been doing TV all
Speaker 4: these years, and so I thought, you know, instead of
Speaker 4: trying it took me a lot of I said, instead
Speaker 4: of trying to like speed everything way up and do radio,
Speaker 4: let me just ease into I know how to TV.
Speaker 4: Doesn't You can't call a game like you do on
Speaker 4: TV on radio because there's not enough description. But you know, basically,
Speaker 4: I was like, I won't try to go all the
Speaker 4: way to like what Harlan or Greg are able to do,
Speaker 4: because I just like I need to get my leg
Speaker 4: I just I can't run at that speed too much
Speaker 4: too soon. They're just too good at it. So that
Speaker 4: was one thing and I felt good, you know it
Speaker 4: helped to have Tim, who's an excellent it really is.
Speaker 1: It's not it's just my energy analysts really really like
Speaker 1: one of the best.
Speaker 4: Like if you watched NFL preseason games around the league
Speaker 4: to go like or just regular season games like, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Tim Ryan is one of the best analysts in football,
Speaker 4: no doubt. So that was a big thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: we could talk about this for hours. I don't know
Speaker 4: how much of it is relevant to a lot to
Speaker 4: most people, but I mean those were two things, you know,
Speaker 4: just I think the other thing and this is something
Speaker 4: that got better as time went on, and I talked
Speaker 4: to Bob Sergeant a lot about it during the season.
Speaker 4: It's were great, Like if you listen to Greg you
Speaker 4: could tune in the second quarter or the fourth quarter
Speaker 4: and there was so much urgency on every play. Not
Speaker 4: with what he's saying, but just it does be the NFL,
Speaker 4: the games matter. I do a lot of college football
Speaker 4: and those games matter a lot too, But you know,
Speaker 4: Week three, it might be Indiana Charlotte, or it might
Speaker 4: be Michigan bowling Green, Like, it doesn't quite matter the
Speaker 4: same the NFL. There's no warm ups, right the preseason
Speaker 4: is the warm ups. Week ones not the warm up,
Speaker 4: and so like, how do I like have the energy
Speaker 4: that you need in radio is just different than in television.
Speaker 4: It's just different, like you need more, and so like
Speaker 4: listening back to tapes and understanding like how does that
Speaker 4: come off? Is that too much? Is that too little?
Speaker 4: Is that? What's that? I've never called a team's games?
Speaker 1: What did my touchdown call? Do I do?
Speaker 4: San Francisco? That's Greg's maybe I'll do it once. You
Speaker 4: know you do it in homage, but I can't copy that.
Speaker 4: But then so what do I say? Like does it
Speaker 4: need to be a signature?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: So like if you listen to every game, you would
Speaker 4: hear last year and people would take it and.
Speaker 1: It was fine.
Speaker 4: I was experimenting touchdown calls in real time because there's
Speaker 4: no other way to duplicate it, like I can't sit
Speaker 4: at home in the shower, like you can't do it,
Speaker 4: like you need the real energy of the real game.
Speaker 4: So that was fun just trying to figure that out
Speaker 4: and then ultimately concluding like I guess it doesn't need
Speaker 4: to be any one thing. Those things tend to take
Speaker 4: care of themselves, like you just call it. Eventually the
Speaker 4: right thing, it'll come out and you can't plan it.
Speaker 3: Lots of prep, you know. Preparation is the key, of course,
Speaker 3: but you do it a great chob. Hey man, thanks
Speaker 3: for stopping by the Niners Nightly. Always great to wrap
Speaker 3: Niner ball with you. We'll do it consistently throughout the
Speaker 3: football season. I appreciate your time. Yeah, great to see
Speaker 3: you guy.
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