1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Giants fans, this is your hub to have your voice 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: hears Sports Phone KNB are streaming live on YouTube at 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: KNBR one O four five. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: All right back on Sportsphone KMBR with Bill Laskian on 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: Friday Night. Giants lose a tough one again today, three 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: to zero, only coming up with one hit. Robbie Ray 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: threw very well and the bullpen did too, so some 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: positives on the defensive side. But at the same time 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: they're zero to two and the New York Yankees are 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: two and oh. And we're going to talk about the 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: Yankees right now as we bring in Brian Hoak and 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: he writes for MLB dot com. Brian, how are you 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: this evening. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Bill, how are you? 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Yeah, thanks for coming on. And 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: let's talk about what you guys felt on the Yankee side. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Both starting pitchers throw very well. Hitters did good yesterday, 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: a couple home run balls today. Want it for you? 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: Tell me what your thoughts are in the first two 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: games from the New York Yankee side. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, hard to argue with what you've seen so far. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: And you know, the Yankees, their fan base gave them 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: so much grief over the offseason for just running it 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: back the same team. Basically that wasn't good enough and 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: fell to the Blue Jays in the American League Division 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Series last year. But there's a lot of reasons for 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: optimism with this Yankee team. They scored the most runs 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: in the majors last year. The pitching should be better. 29 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: They've got reinforcements on the way. So I mean, when 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: you go eighteen innings and you haven't given up a 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: run yet, it's hard to argue with that. So you know, 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: everything's going the Yankees way right now, but I'm sure 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna hit some rough patches before too long. Too well. 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: Both starting pitchers threw really well. Max Freed was this 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: exceptional you know on Wednesday, but in the long run, 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: nineteen wins last year, three time Gold Glove winner. Ever 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: since he's put onto pinstripes, he's been consistent. And then 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: you look at the pitcher today, Cam Schlittler, Boy, oh boy. 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: This kid was what in in Northwestern maybe four years 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: ago less than that, and here he's a number two 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: pitcher in a four man rotation. Both these pitchers got 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: a head of hitters. They used all their pitchers at 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: all different times, but in the long run, they kept 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: everybody off base. 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure did. And you know, Max Freed has 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: been as advertised when he came over, obviously everybody knew 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: who he was from his All Star time with the 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves, but Cam Schlitler really came out of nowhere. 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: And this is a kid that in spring training last year, 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: even Aaron Boone admitted he didn't really know a whole 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: lot about him. He came over from minor league camp 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: to start a game and it just the kid was 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: not intimidated by the spotlight, and it was kind of 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: a preview of what we were going to see in 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: July and in the second half last year, and especially 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: in that AL Wildcard game against the Red Sox, against 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: the team he grew up rooting for when he really 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: just shut them down and he ended Boston season. And 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of an angry swagger to him. 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: You know, I think look for things that are going 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: to fire him up. And he was reading a lot 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: of the social media comments and from the Red Sox fans, 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: But off the mound, he's very quiet and unassuming, almost shy. 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's very into cats and he's kind of 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a quirky personality, but he has 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: been a real success story because this is a kid 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: who just a few years ago was throwing ninety two 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: to ninety three and using the biometrics and all the 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: pitch development they have down there, he is a success 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: story because he's ramped that up and now you saw 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: him today. He hit one hundred, but he's sitting ninety 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: seven ninety eight, and when you've got that frame and 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: then movement coming at you, it makes it really hard 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: to hit well. 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: Brian, I remember that game against the Red Sox and 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: every announcer of saying who is this guy? And how 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: is he getting to me in the Yankee rotation in 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: the playoffs? And boy, you're absolutely right. He put a 79 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: show on. And today I was just looking to see 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: what he had. The first ten pitches he threw in 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: the first inning in the bottom all strikes, six fast, 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: two cutters, two change ups or curve balls either way, 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: two off speed pitches, ten pitches, ten strikes he punches 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: out Chapman endeavors to walk off the mount very impressive 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: first inning, and. 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: That's what he needed to do too, because he was 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: operating on a pitch count because he had some back 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: and latt discomfort and spring training, and he never stopped throwing, 89 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: but it did keep him off the mound for a 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: little bit. He was just limited to playing catch. So 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: he knew he only had seventy pitches in his clip 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: here today, so he knew he had to be efficient. 93 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing that he's really been working on is 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: cutting down on the walks and trying to get ahead 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: of hitters. And that was one thing that affected him 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: when he first got called up last year. That's not 97 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: a problem anymore, and you're seeing the results here now. 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Eight strikeouts, no walks. It's hard to be a whole 99 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: lot better than Cam Schlitzler was here today. 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: Brian Hope jodones me on sportsphon KMBR. Course he covers 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: the New York Yankees on MLB dot Com. So one 102 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: of the things that impressed me about him, he's stuck 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: to the fastball, the cutter, and a curveball. Then all 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: of a sudden he mixes in a slider, and then 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: toward the end of the fifth inning or maybe the 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: fourth inning, he starts throwing sinkers. And I never saw 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: that before. Out of him, and he only threw well, 108 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: I think, sixteen sinkers, seven curveballs, he only threw one slider. 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: But his secondary pitches he mixed in really well when 110 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: the hitters came up the second and third time against him. 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has really learned how to pitch. He's not 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: just a rear back and throw and I think that 113 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: was one of the things that he needed to work 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: on when he was coming up through the minor leagues 115 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: was when you suddenly have this new toy and you've 116 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: never been able to throw ninety eight, and now you're 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: throwing ninety eight. You just want to show it off 118 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: all the time. But he has really learned how to 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: pitch here at the big league level. And I think 120 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: that if you give this kid thirty starts and he 121 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: stays healthy, I think you're going to be looking at 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: a real impact major league pitcher. I think he's legit. 123 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: He's got the right mind. Said he's almost a throwback 124 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. He reminds me of you know, 125 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: you hear the stories and look, you pitched in this era, 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: but guys who were in the eighties in the nineties. 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a throwback to don't take 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: the ball away from me. I want to go seven. 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: I want to go eight innings. And he knew that 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: he was going to only be able to go five 131 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: and a third. But this kid wants to get deep 132 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: into the game and he wants to challenge you. And 133 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: I like everything I've seen out of him so far. 134 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at his line, sixty eight pitches, 135 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: forty eight for strikes, I always talk about first pitch 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: strikes eleven out of seventeen to get ahead of the hitter. 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: And he was pounding that zone four ground balls, two 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: fly balls, an impress of outing. And then you look 139 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: at what Cruz Hill, Duval and Bednard did. I want 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: to get a little bit into Camilla Duvall. Is he 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: the setup man now of the bullpen. He came out 142 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: with some vengeance today, punched the side out, and he 143 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: had some swagger walking off that oracle mound today against 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: the Giants. 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, he claims that there was nothing added to it 146 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: pitching back at San Francisco, but I don't quite buy that. 147 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: I think that emotionally, it has to be going up 148 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: against the team that traded you. And obviously he had 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot of success in San Francisco. He also had 150 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: some low moments too, and he heard the booze when 151 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: he came in yesterday or in the opening night game, 152 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: and I think that he set off that a little bit, 153 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and I think he wanted to show the Giants what 154 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: he can be and that he can get back to 155 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: that elite level. And so yeah, he had six swing 156 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: and missus. I think he only threw twelve pitches, but 157 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: struck out the side in that eighth inning, and that 158 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: was dominant Camillo Dovall And that's what the Yankees have 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: been hoping for and working on. He's been kind of 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: a project. They've got the pitching coach, Matt Blake and 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: their department kind of dissecting him and trying to tweak 162 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: a few things that they thought he could do better 163 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: after he came over last year from San Francisco. But 164 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: he has talked about this year getting to be in camp. 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I know he was gone for the World Baseball Classic, 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: but just being around a little bit more. He's stealing 167 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: more comfortable, and he said after the game today that 168 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like being in a new family and 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you have to kind of learn where to go and 170 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: who to be around or who you can trust and 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: who you can talk to. And I think he's starting 172 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to feel a little more comfortable. I think he's always 173 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: going to be that personality that's a little distant, a 174 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: little business like. But hey, if he pitches the way 175 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: he did today, I mean, that's what the Yankees need 176 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: him to do because if he can be that, Camilo 177 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Govall more often than not than that is an elite 178 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: setup man, and you might even wind up putting him 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: back in the clothing role at some point. 180 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, he's got that pedigree to do it too. He 181 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: was outstanding here when he made the National League All 182 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Star team, and it just kind of faded off. He 183 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: was just inconsistent. Of course, Ryan Walker ended up jumping 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: in there, and the next thing you know, Devall was traded. 185 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: But I think he's in the right place now. Is 186 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: like you say, it has to get adjusted to it 187 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: a different clubhouse, and pitching in New York is not 188 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: so easy. So we'll find out how Camillo does. But 189 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: I just reflect on a couple of hitters in this lineup, 190 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: and my first one's Ben Rice. I've watched this kid 191 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: play twenty seven years old from Dartmouth. I mean, just 192 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: a good all around first baseman. Tell me what you 193 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: think of him so far. 194 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I think he is going to be an impact major 195 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: league hitter. And he's worked really hard on the first 196 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: base thing. He had a couple of nice scoops on 197 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: opening Day, and that is an adopted position for him. 198 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: It's one that he'd never really played before last year. 199 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: This is the catcher who came up through the farm 200 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: system and they just said, the only way you're going 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: to get any big league reps here, you got to 202 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: learn how to play some first base. So he kind 203 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: of learned it on the fly a couple of years ago. 204 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: Last year he got a little better at it. It 205 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: was a little shaky at times. But what I've seen 206 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: out of Ben this spring, I mean he is a 207 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: hard worker. He's taken a lot of time. Paul Goldschmid 208 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: has given him a lot of tips on playing first base. 209 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: So the defense has gotten better. But I think offensively, 210 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: this kid scorches the ball. He barrels it up a 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: whole lot. Last year, the numbers, I think he only 212 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: hit in the two fifties, but it should have been 213 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: a a lot higher because there were so many times 214 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: where he'd rip a double to the gap and they 215 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: would get robbed. And he probably had some of the 216 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: worst luck in the major leagues, I'm guessing. So there. 217 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I think that at some point that's going to balance out, 218 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: because when he's hitting the ball with you know, over 219 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour, the eggs of velocity. He's 220 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: got that left handed swing. You put that in Yankee Stadium. 221 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: I think he's going to put up some big numbers. 222 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: And so I see bright things ahead for ben Rice. 223 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: And I think that you mentioned Dartmouth. There's there's no 224 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: doubt this kid is sharp too. I think he's a 225 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: student of the game. I think you have to be. 226 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: He kind of looks at the game like a catcher does, 227 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: even though he's standing over at first base. And so 228 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: he's bright, and he's got a stroke that's built for 229 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. If he was a stock, I would buy him. 230 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you. And he disguises himself in that 231 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: lineup when you go against Judge and Stanton and all 232 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: the big right hand hitters and he's in the middle 233 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: of it. You know, his numbers last year, like you 234 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: were saying, twenty eight doubles, twenty six home runs, and 235 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: that's why he just stands out to me and watching 236 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: him last year when he first came up, he didn't 237 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 2: really do much. But last year, boy, he was electric 238 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: and I really like watching him play, and I think 239 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: he's going to be a big star in New York 240 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: as the years progressed. The other one is a player 241 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: that I watched with the Colorado Rockies for many years 242 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: and he used to hurt the Giants is Ryan McMahon. 243 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: Of course, Yankees traded him, traded for him last year. 244 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: You know, when you look at what he's done in 245 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: his career, six times twenty home runs are more and 246 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: I think he's another guy that's getting the feel of 247 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: those Yankee pin stripes. I think he's going to be 248 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: a big, big plus for the Yankees. 249 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: The defense has been fantastic. He made one of the 250 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: best players I've ever seen in the playoffs last year 251 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: against Boston where he tumbled over the dugout railing and 252 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: went into the Red Sox dugout during that playoff series 253 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: kind of just fearlessly. And so you know, the way 254 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Boone puts it is he was born to pick 255 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: up a ground ball. McMahon was, and he just kind 256 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: of got that smooth defensive play over there, and now 257 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: they've got to figure out can the bat catch up 258 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: because you mentioned the power, and I'm not sure how 259 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: much of that was Coors Field influence, but he's really 260 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: worked on tweaking his stance. And one thing that the 261 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: Yankees looked at over the offseason was McMahon had one 262 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: of the widest stances in all of Major League Baseball 263 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: last year and there is something that he didn't do consciously. 264 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: It just kind of got away from him. And so 265 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: he's trying to tighten that up and he's made some 266 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: swing adjustments all spring training. He didn't see a whole 267 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: lot of results at the plate this spring and hasn't 268 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: really carried over yet. I know we're two games in here, 269 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: but I'm curious to see if he can make those 270 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: adjustments and he can give them more offensively, because if 271 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: he can, and he can become a true two way 272 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: player for this team, then that is a big pickup 273 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: because it was a position where they weren't getting a 274 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: whole lot of production last year out of DJ Lemayhew. 275 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: They wound up having a cut bait there and let 276 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: him go and they plugged in McMahon at the trade deadline, 277 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: and they thought that was going to be a big 278 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: boost for them, and it really wasn't in the second 279 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: half last year. And maybe part of that is a 280 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: transition to New York, but he seems like he fit 281 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: into the clubhouse pretty quickly. And like I said, the defense, 282 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: he really solidified to the left side of the infield, 283 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: because if you remember last year, Anthony Goldfie was really 284 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: struggling defensively, and so that added an elite glove on 285 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the left side. And the pitching staff certainly appreciated it 286 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: because suddenly a lot of these soft tappers down the 287 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: third baseline that were going for hits were getting turned 288 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: into outs. And I know that up and down the 289 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Yankee pitching staff they were saying, Wow, that makes a 290 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: big difference. 291 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Brian Hope from MLB dot Com covers in New York 292 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: Yankees your twentieth opening day. I saw that all my 293 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: tweeted that out. I think that's really impressive. But the 294 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: thing is I want to talk about is you jumped 295 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: in William McCovey cove and you jumped in a can't kayak. 296 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: I saw a couple of pictures of that, and I'm like, Brian, 297 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: do you know what you're doing out there? And was 298 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: that the first time you were in a kayak. 299 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: No, I don't know what I'm doing out there, but 300 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: I but I loved it. Great experience. The credit to 301 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: City Kayak and Netflix for setting that up. It was 302 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: part of the promotion for opening day and I got 303 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: that invitation and it's not one that I could pass up. 304 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: And so I, yeah, going out in the covey cove 305 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: out there the day of the ball game, and I'll 306 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: tell you what, I got a little too close to 307 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: the sea lions. They barked at me, and so that 308 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: kind of startled me too, because you know, I got 309 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: a little close to him. They barked and he splashed 310 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: in the water, and I've said, boy, I mean, if 311 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: he really wanted to, he could tip me over right now. 312 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: So I've better keep my distance a little bit. But 313 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: it was It's beautiful out there. This is one of 314 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: my favorite road cities to go to a beautiful ballpark, 315 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: and so that was definitely a bucket list experience to 316 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: get out there in the cove. I have been kayaking before, 317 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: but never anywhere as beautiful as that. So that was really, really, 318 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: really great. And so city kayak that that's awesome. Anybody 319 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: out there who wants to do it go check that out. 320 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a good chuckle checking that out on 321 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: your page and I saw that seat line. They're a 322 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: little bigger here on the West coast, Brian. You got 323 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: to watch out for him and they will dive in 324 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: after you, no question there. But let's talk about your book. 325 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: A fabulous book he wrote, and it was all about 326 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge number sixty two, The Pursite in Pursuit of Greatness, 327 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: a fabulous book of his run that he did when 328 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: he had sixty two home runs. You persuaded Aaron Judge. 329 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Maybe you twisted his arm and saying can I write 330 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: this book? How did you go to him to say 331 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: can I do this? And will you participate in working 332 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: with me for it? 333 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Well? I think that as that season was going on, 334 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: I knew that something special was happening, and I didn't 335 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: know what it was going to wind up being. He 336 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: was obviously hitting a ton of home runs and he 337 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: was having an MVP type year, and you knew that 338 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: sure chasing Roger Morris was kind of in the cars. 339 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: But I also thought maybe winds up being a Yankees 340 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: win the World Series book Who Knows? And so I 341 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: was just collecting as much as I could from the 342 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: All Star break on and knowing that there was probably 343 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: something here. And then once it got to September and 344 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: it was clear that this Judge home run chase was 345 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: something we haven't really seen since the Barry Bonds and 346 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa years. I mean, they were 347 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: cutting in on college football broadcast to show Aaron Judge 348 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: at bats and that's something that Yankee fans have never 349 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: really experienced. And so it did take me back to 350 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: the late nineties and to the Barry Bonds home run chase, 351 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: and it felt like that again, and there was so 352 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: much fan interest in it that it just became a 353 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: natural fit to that. And so what I wanted to 354 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: do with that book was not just tell the story 355 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: of all the sixty two home runs, because I think 356 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: that is kind of that could get dry at times. 357 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: What I wanted to do was really dig into where 358 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: Aaron came from in Lynn, California, tell his story and 359 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: who was impactful helping him get to the major leagues. 360 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who he was ticked 361 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: thirty second overall, he was certainly not a sure thing, 362 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of people wondering if that 363 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: was even a smart pick at the time. So he 364 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: beat the odds to do that, struggled initially when he 365 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: got called up, then came back and said, I'm never 366 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: going to hit one seventy nine again. One rookie of 367 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: the Year, won the home Run Derby and has now 368 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: become one of the faces of Major League Baseball. And 369 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: so that was the story that I wanted to tell there, 370 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: against the backdrop of the home run chase, against the 371 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: backdrop of Roger Morris and the nineteen sixty one Yankees 372 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: and Bave Ruth in the nineteen twenty seven Yankees, and 373 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: why sixty sixty one, sixty two records all held by 374 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Yankee right fielders. I mean, there was so much cool 375 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: symmetry there to dig into historically that while it is 376 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: a book about Aaron Judge, it's also a book about 377 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: the Yankees and baseball history and home run records, and 378 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: so there was a lot to cover there, for sure. 379 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: And one of my favorite interviews the pair that I did, 380 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of sixty one Yankees left, unfortunately, 381 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: but I was able to speak with Bobby Richardson and 382 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: with Tony Kuback about Roger Marris and about what they 383 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: thought watching Aaron Judge, and so that was kind of 384 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: cool to just tie that all together in baseball history. 385 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Brian, when you were watching Aaron Judge go after this 386 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: record in September, this demeanor change. Could you tell if 387 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: he was stressed out? Because every time I look at 388 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: him in a dugout, he's so cool, calm, collective, looking 389 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: at his iPad, talking to people. He's like the calmest 390 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: guy in the dugout, nothing bothers him. But when he 391 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: was going for that number, was there anything different about him? 392 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think there were times where he was stressing 393 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: and definitely pressing for it. I think he wouldn't be 394 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: human if he could have blocked it all out. I 395 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: think that well, there was so much noise around him 396 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: and every day everywhere the Yankees went. I remember year 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: is in Milwaukee, and you know, the national media is 398 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: descended on your locker because you're at fifty eight, and 399 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: then it just gets bigger and bigger as that goes on. 400 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: And then Roger Merris Junior started coming out to the 401 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: games and waiting for sixty and sixty one and sixty two, 402 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: and you see him on the broadcast sitting next to Aaron, 403 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: Judge's mom, and it was just he can't block all 404 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: of that out. You know, everybody in the ballpark is 405 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: waiting for you to hit a home run. It was 406 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: so funny. There were times at Yankee Stadium. I remember 407 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: late in that season a game against Boston where of 408 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: course everybody's standing, everybody's got the phones out, they're waiting 409 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: for a home run, and Judge rips a double and 410 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: you hear the audible crowd reaction of oh, I mean, 411 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: as the fans were disappointed that he's a double. And 412 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: so I think that was a snapshot of how crazy 413 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: that time was. And you know, it's just it was 414 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: a special time to be around, and it was definitely 415 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: historic and to be a part of. But I think 416 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: that I think watching from Afar last year, as cal 417 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Rally was chasing that record, I don't think Judge was 418 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: wishing he was there right there in it. I think 419 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: he was happy to let somebody else take the spotlight 420 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: for a minute. 421 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on that book. It's a fabulous book. Number 422 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: sixty two. If you go into your bookstore and read 423 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: about it. And of course I'm talking to the author, 424 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Brian Hope. A couple more minutes here with Brian as 425 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: we finish up here on Sportsphone, K and br let's 426 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: talk about the starting pitcher tomorrow. Will Warren, the twenty 427 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: six year old from Southeastern Louisiana, had a pretty good 428 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: season last year, thirty three games, nine and eight with 429 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: a four point four earned run average. He gave up 430 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: the long ball, he gave up twenty two home runs, 431 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: but he also had one hundred and seventy one punch outs. 432 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about what we're going to 433 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: see out of him tomorrow. 434 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, not a bad rookie season, all things considered. And 435 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: I think those numbers were inflated by a few games 436 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: where he really got knocked around. And if you look 437 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: and there's some sevens and some eight's in his game 438 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: log there, and that's that's going to sway your numbers 439 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: pretty well. But yeah, I think that the Yankees are 440 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: so high on his stuff and they think that he's 441 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: going to translate into a mid rotation starter at some point, 442 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: and you know, they're counting on him to repeat or 443 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: improve upon what he did last year. And one of 444 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: the things that was impressive from his spring training, and 445 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you want to read in 446 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: the spring training numbers, but he was. He had a 447 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: e RA under two. And one of the reasons for 448 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: that was he has moved over to the third base 449 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: side of the rubber. And you wouldn't think that that 450 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: is such a big change, but it really has changed 451 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: the angles on a lot of his pitches. And so 452 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I was talking to some of the Yankee catchers this 453 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: spring about what pitches have impressed them the most, and 454 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: a lot of them pointed to Will Warrnt and they 455 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: said that because of that move to the third bay side, 456 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: it's just handcuffing guys, especially left handed batters, And so 457 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing I would watch here. The 458 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: Giants have obviously had trouble hitting in the first two 459 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: games of this series, and they're probably going to be 460 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: swinging out of their shoes to put some numbers on 461 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: the board here. I think that if you go off 462 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: the scouting report of what Will Warren was last year, 463 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: you're going to be disappointed because he has changed. So 464 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I think that I'm sure I'm not telling the Giants 465 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: anything they don't know. You'll have to watch the scouting 466 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: of what he did in spring training this year because 467 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: that's what they're going to face tomorrow. 468 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: You know, the last one for you, Brian Garrett Cole 469 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Where is he fitting in? Where is he at right 470 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: now and is throwing coming back from TJ. Where does 471 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: he fit in this season? 472 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: He has looked great. He's been beyond what I expected 473 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: coming off time to John because you're talking about a 474 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: guy who's thirty five going on thirty six, and there's 475 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: no guarantees. You don't know what it's going to look 476 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: like when he comes back. But to see him come back, 477 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: his command was pinpoint. That's what the coaches kept talking about. 478 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't so much the velocity, although that was good. 479 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: It was the fact that he was hitting all his spots. 480 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And so the rehab has really gone about as perfectly 481 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: as it you could hope for at this point, and 482 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: you know that's no guarantee. There are always going to 483 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: be bumps in the road. But if it continues as 484 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: it's going now, I think you're looking at late May, 485 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: early June. You plug him back in the Yankee rotation. 486 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: He was able to get into two spring training games, 487 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: make starts there and just a few innings, just kind 488 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: of a taste to get his beak wet. But right 489 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: now he's about ready to get on that every five 490 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: or six day program of making a minor league starts 491 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: as he starts to build stamina. And you know he's 492 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: only thrown two innings right now, but next time out 493 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: it'll be three and then four, and then before you 494 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: know it, you're ready to plug him in. So that's 495 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: one reason that the Yankees are so confident about that 496 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: running back idea is if they have the same offenses 497 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: last year, and then you have the pitching, and you're 498 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: gonna plug in Carlos Rodin and you're gonna plug in 499 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole later on, you get thirty two starts out 500 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: of Cam Schlitzer, who you saw today. If Will Warren 501 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: takes a step forward and you have Max Fred, I mean, 502 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: that's a pretty deep starting rotation there, and you never 503 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: have enough starting pitching. But they do feel like they 504 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: have a lot. 505 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, running it back is a good slogan right now, 506 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: as you just threw all those names and positions and 507 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: hitting and pitching a fabulous team into pinstripes and we'll 508 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: find out in twenty twenty six, so farther two to 509 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: zero against the San Francisco Giants. But I want to 510 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 2: thank your time, Brian. A pleasure to meet you and 511 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: talk to you, and thanks for your time on a 512 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: Friday night. 513 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: You got to Bill, take care, Thanks for having me. 514 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: That was Brian Hoke on sports Phone kmb RC. Coming 515 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: up next, I sit down with Travis is Chicawa and 516 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: we talk minor LEAs. We talk about a lot of 517 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: the prospects coming up. That's going to be next right 518 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: here on kN b R, The Sports Leader