1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: on The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Kirk writes in at Johnny, don't like show at gmail 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: dot com ELK Grove, They've got to be kidding. That's 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: like the Inland Empire of Sacramento totally discredits the survey. Wait, 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Inland Empire? 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Kirk? 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: There are some pretty parts of the Inland Empire, and 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: then there's Hemmett. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Just kidd know what's funny. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: When I was going to graduate school in Claremont, I 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: once referred to Claremont, which is in the nine oh 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: nine area code, as part of the Inland Empire. And 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: you would have thought I insulted everyone's mother. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Claremont is like the easternmost part of its still La County, right, 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: But you go just over the border. 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Do you have Montclair in Upland and Ontario and San 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Bernardino County. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: And you have the nine to nine area code. 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: So I didn't think I was using a slur, but 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: they took great offense to that, so I never did 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: it again. 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: You learned your lesson eight. 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Hundred two two two five two two two is the 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: telephone number one eight hundred two to two two five 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: two two two. Well, we've seen any number of teachers 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: unions throughout the state of California, including in Oakland, San Francisco, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles, where the teachers voted to authorize a strike. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: The teachers want more money. State of California's broke. Many 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: of the big city school districts in California, they're broke, 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: but the teachers. 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Still want a raise. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: All of this leads to the question, is this some 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: sort of coordinated campaign again school districts in California to 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 1: bully them into giving teachers more money. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: It sure seems that way when you've had so many 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: teacher strikes in just the last few weeks. You had 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 3: San Francisco, you just had Dublin. Right now, you've got 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Twin Rivers and the Thomas in the Sacramento area. You've 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: got a threatened strike from Oakland, a threatened strike from LAUSD. 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: This all seems to be happening at the same time. 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: So Ashley Zavala wanted to talk to the president of 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: the California Teachers Association on California Politics three sixty, her 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: statewide political show that Arizon, kc ARA three and Sacramento 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: and now on Fox eleven in Los Angeles and k 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: TVU Fox two in the Bay. 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: David Goldberg with the California Teachers Association, thank you so 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: much for making time for us. 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's my pleasure to be here. 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: So he sounds really excited about it, I can tell. 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: So why are we seeing so many teacher strikes? 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: Although, to be fair, and this is not a knock 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: against Ashley Zavalla, who I think is one of the 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: best people we have in the state of California when 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: it comes to journalism, But of the people that talk 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: to Ashley's, a lot of them are not happy to 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: do it. 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Well because you know you're going to get real questions, 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: which is a departure from what normally happens. 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: So why are we seeing so many teacher strikes across 61 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: the state at the same exact time. 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: First and foremost, it's a result of the conditions under 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: which educators are working under in decades of disinvestment, we 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: have educators who are overwhelmed and who are just frankly 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: struggling to survive. 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: Don't we hear this every three years, And don't think 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: it a massive contract every three years. Yes, And here's 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: the deal. This is the way it's always been. 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: If you go into the public sector, particularly in public education, 70 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: it's a trade off. You get off of work at 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,559 Speaker 1: what two o'clock in the afternoon, three o'clock in the afternoon. 72 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: When I was teaching, I got off at one fifty 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: one in the afternoon. You don't work over the summer. 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: You get a ton of sick time, you get spring break, 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: you have Christmas break, you have all the holidays. You 76 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: can't get fired. It's not that bad of a job. 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Do you make as much money as a CEO or 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: an attorney or a judge or fill in the blank. No, 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: But they also don't have that kind of time off. 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: You don't get everything. I guess some people do. You 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: marry Jeff Bezos, you have everything. But for most jobs 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: it's a give and a take. If you get more salary, 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: you work more hours. If you have more time off, 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: you get less salary. That's generally speaking, how this game 85 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: is played. 86 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: They're happening at the same time for a number of reasons. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: One is, our contracts expire towards the end of the year, 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: and now folks have been pushing to get a new contract, 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: and many of these districts have been just shining them 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: on for months. The second thing is educators are talking 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: to each other and trying to figure out how do 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: we They're realizing that the only way our students are 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: going to get what they deserve them. 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: Oh, stop saying that this is about the kids. It's not. No, 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: this is about the teachers' union membership. 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: Educators are talking to you. 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: If the teachers' unions really cared about the education of 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: the kids, Cecily wouldn't have kept them home for two years. Nope, 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: our babies. 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: Educators are talking to each other and trying to figure out, 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: how do we remember. 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: One of the demands that Cecily made to reopen the 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: schools is we're not sending the kids back to in 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: person education unless you defund the LAUSD Police Force. Oh yes, 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: because that is a critical part of staying safe during COVID. 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Educators are talking to each other and trying to figure 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: out how do we They're realizing that the only way 108 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: our students are going to get what they deserve them. 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: Educators are going to get what they deserve. 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: And a district that has continually disrespected them and their 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: work and their students has to really fight. 112 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: And that's what's happening now. 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: But California, I mean, just looking at the state budget 114 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: is spending more money than ever on schools. How is 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: this happening? 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: Great question? 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: And we have declining enrollment and we have awful test scores, 118 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: and Mississippi is now leapfrog does in California because of 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Prop ninety eight, when we brought in more money than 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: expected last year, some of that money automatically. 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: Went to the schools. As to where it went in 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: the schools, nobody knows. 123 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's happening for a number of reasons. First of all, 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: California is the fourth largest economy in the world, not 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: even the fourth largest state of commodity. 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: We just have decided that it's really hard to take 127 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: anyone seriously that starts with that, because that's the Gavin 128 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: line for everything that's wrong in the state. Well, it 129 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: doesn't matter with the fourth largest economy. 130 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that has everything to do with the size 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: of the state and the success of Silicon Valley. It 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what the teachers' unions are doing. 133 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: If just in Vidia left, I think we'd be down 134 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: to what's so wild to me. 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: And I know we spend a lot of time dumping 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: on state government here because they're so awful, But there 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: are a few things that they do right. And one 138 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: of the things that they do right here in California 139 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: is we have an excellent community college system, we have 140 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: an excellent California State University system, and we have an 141 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: excellent University of California system. I don't know how it 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: is that we can do such a good job with 143 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: our higher education and K through twelve is such a disaster. 144 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: We just passed. 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: Japan, so we don't have an education system that's funded 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: anywhere near in commensurate with the size of our economy. 147 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: The second thing that's happening is while California compared to 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: other states, does spend well on education compared to many states, 149 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: it's partly for a number of reasons. 150 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: One is because other. 151 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: States are actually decreasing their funding in public education. 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but our outcomes are getting worse and we're spending 153 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: more money. 154 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Why is miss Sippy going up 155 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and we're not. 156 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: And the other thing that's really a huge factor is 157 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: people our members can afford. The cost of living is 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: so high in California. The members can't live anywhere near 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: where they work. We have members are paying. 160 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know some of these school districts. You don't 161 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: want to live where you work. That's a good idea. 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: We have members are paying fifteen hundred dollars out of 163 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: their pocket or eighteen hundred dollars out of the pocket 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: just to cover their insurance for their health insurance. 165 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: That's what this is all about. They want a really 166 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: really really sweetheard health care deal, Well. 167 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Then they better hope that Katie Porter doesn't get in 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: there because she wants universal health care. 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: And if you wonder why Gavin Newsom, who campaigned on 170 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: universal health care, was immediately shut down, is because the 171 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: people that don't want it the most are the public 172 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: employee unions, because that takes away their biggest bargaining chip. 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: Well, imagine if cycle after cycle you have won concessions 174 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: on getting a Cadillac healthcare policy where your employer pays 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: for most of it, if not all of it, if 176 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: they go to a universal healthcare system, you lose all 177 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: of that and you get dumped on the same system 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: as everyone else. That means you go backwards by decades. 179 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: And so we have a. 180 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: Number of factors, including many of these districts, like the 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: ones in your area, the frank have been hoarding money 182 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: even though they've been getting money, They've been hoarding money 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: and actually disinvesting in schools, in students and educators from 184 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: a number of years in a way that's become a 185 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: crisis point. 186 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: This is the line that Cicely has used many times. 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: The teachers' unions in the Bay Area have used many times, 188 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: the schools are all just squirreling away all this money. 189 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: It's money that's bond money that legally can't be spent 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: on teacher salaries, but they don't care. They want it. 191 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Well, what they want is the shell game, where you 192 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: were to take money that would be spent on something 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: that's construction related, something that would qualify for a bond, 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: and take that that's not necessarily part of the bond, 195 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: shift that to salaries, and make up for it with 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: the bond money. So they sell the bonds of if 197 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: you vote for this bond, you'll get all these new 198 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: shiny toys, when in reality, what they want to do 199 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: is they want to shift the money that already exists 200 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: to salaries and take that bond money to pay for 201 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that they already have. 202 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: So even California spending more compared to other states, does 203 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: not keep up with the cost of living, and educators 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: just frankly struggling to survive. We do a survey of 205 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: our members and eighty percent of them are struggling to 206 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: meet some of the basic cost of living expenses that 207 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: they have to take on. Many are working second and 208 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: third jobs just to survive as educators. 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: I want to circle back to the school districts in 210 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: a second, but I mean, why did CTA line up 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: all of these contracts at the same time? What exactly 212 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: is the end game there by doing that? 213 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: Oh, he doesn't want to answer that one. 214 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: Nope, let me be clear about one thing. Doesn't line 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: up contracts. We have a thousand different locals across the state. 216 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: This is a bottom up approach to really. 217 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Okay, now, wait a minute, isn't Cecily dating someone in 218 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: the Oakland Unified School District? 219 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: Are they still together? 220 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: It's so incestuous with these people, but let us keep 221 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: it real. 222 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: This is a bottom up approach to really were they 223 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: came up with common demands around similar issues, around well 224 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: funded schools, around educators that can get paid a way 225 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: that they can actually stay in this profession which serves 226 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: as students. 227 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: I just I don't understand what point is the salary sufficient. 228 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: Three years ago Cecily got a twenty two percent raise 229 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: for the teachers, and here we are saying that everyone's broke. 230 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: And think about this for a second. 231 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: We know that the teachers unions fund democratic politicians, they 232 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: fund their campaigns. Something like ninety nine percent of the 233 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: money that the teachers' union spend goes to Democrats. Think 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,479 Speaker 1: about who's an elected office in the state of California. 235 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: You have a democratic governor, you have a democratic state 236 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: superintendent of Public Instruction. You have a democratic legislature two 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: thirds in both houses. You look at these big city 238 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: school districts and you look up the makeup of the 239 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: school board. I doubt any of them has even one Republican, 240 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about San Francisco or Oakland or Vallejo 241 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: or Los Angeles or Netomas wherever. So it's Democrats negotiating 242 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: with other Democrats, and they're still acting like Flora the 243 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Red Menace. 244 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: They then spent the. 245 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: Last year or so learning from each other and learning 246 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: how to really build power that they need to win this. 247 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: They've been asking, they've been begging, they've tried every other. 248 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: We didn't coordinate this. Our members coordinated this nice dodge. 249 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: Way of trying to get what they deserve and what 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: their students deserve. And frankly, it's not happening. 251 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: And so that's what's happening this By the way, this 252 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: guy's getting real close. He has said the F many times. 253 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: The Q is coming, but not the F. That's the 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: same F as the coffee I like in Garden Grove. 255 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: Quite frankly, and frankly, it's not happening. 256 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: And so that's what's happening this year is that educators 257 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: saying we've had enough and we're going to learn from 258 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: each other and we're going to really push it and 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: say that this is our moment to say that, you. 260 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: Know I loved is when the San Francisco schools went 261 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: on strike and they settled the strike. They're like, well, 262 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: we got that holiday weekend coming up soon, why don't 263 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: you guys come back next Wednesday. I am surprised, whether 264 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: it was the woman from CARB or this guy from 265 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: the California Teachers Association, that they're willing to go on 266 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: television and give these interviews, because if they think that 267 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: this is a good look, that's advancing their members desires. 268 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: I think they're mistaken. 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: To say that educated unions need to fight for what 270 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: workers deserve and what students deserve. And that's the really 271 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: beautiful part about all these strikes is that they're elevating 272 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: not just worker demands and educator demands, but special ed demands, 273 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: demands around how do we keep kids safe at. 274 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: Schools some you know, by getting rid of police departments. 275 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: That's what they're talking about. 276 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: Here in the Thomas they have eight eight hundred students 277 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: that don't have a have a permanent sub basically because 278 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: educators leave that district year after year to go to 279 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: other districts where they pay more and they actually get healthcare. 280 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: Okay, but here's what's going on. Okay, the neighboring school 281 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: districts around sax City Unified. We're leaving to go to 282 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: sax City Unified because sax City Unified offered deals that 283 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: they could not afford. And now sax City Unified has 284 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: to lay everybody off or they're about to go into receivership. 285 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Well that's exactly what he wants, though, he wants all 286 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: of these school districts to spend more than they have 287 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: and then just have Gavin bail them out. 288 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Educators leave that district year after year to go to 289 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: other districts where they pay more and they actually get healthcare. 290 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: So the way that these districts are treating these students 291 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: and the educator is actually terrible for the district itself. 292 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: I just want to clarify, So CTA didn't deliberately line 293 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: up these contracts, because that would be contrary to all 294 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: of the reporting around these strikes, and even. 295 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: I love her so much, Oh she's the best, because. 296 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: That would be contrary to all of the reporting around 297 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: these strikes, and even contrary to a press release that 298 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: you all sent last year about how you were deliberately 299 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean lining up contracts so that you could launch 300 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: this campaign. 301 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, a year ago they launched something called we Can't 302 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Wait and made sure that all the contracts expired at 303 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the same time so they could have this never ending 304 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: strike of palooza. 305 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: In the news. 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's like what happens with the airlines when the 307 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: pilots of one airline get a deal. If you are 308 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: let's say United, and you get the deal. Then Delta 309 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: is going to go to the management and they're going 310 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,479 Speaker 1: to say, okay, we want what United has, or American 311 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: pilots or Southwest pilots. They're going to do the same thing, 312 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: because do you want to be the airline that pays 313 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: everyone less than your competitors And the answer is no. 314 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: So you want the other team to have a great, 315 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: big win, so you can piggyback on it and use 316 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: that as the baseline and probably even get more than that. 317 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. But if it's boom boom boom 318 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom, you're doing them one right after another. 319 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: You could really run the table. 320 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me Maybe it's just a distinction that's 321 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: important for people who know. 322 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: But CTIA, the state. 323 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: It's a It's amazing how the head of the statewide 324 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: teachers union is a terrible communicator. Maybe he took his 325 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: English lessons from Cecily. 326 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Ctia, the statewide union. We don't bargain local contracts. The 327 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: educators themselves in each one of these unions made a 328 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: decision to line up their contracts. We as ct have 329 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: been supporting this effort. 330 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: But we didn't organize it. We just encouraged it, and 331 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: we put it in writing by accident. 332 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: And been really supporting through resources and helping them to 333 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: learn from each other. But CTA does not mandate to 334 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: any union or any district that you'd line up their contract. 335 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: That's a distinction I'm making is this is members themselves, 336 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: bottom up, saying this is what it's going to take 337 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: to fight to what we deserve, and CTA saying we're 338 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: all in on supporting you. 339 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: We're all in on this whole we can't wait campaign. 340 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: So CTA is. 341 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: All you actually named the damn thing and you started 342 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: this a year ago. 343 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: This is so stupid that they're getting what they want 344 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: and then they're denying having done it. 345 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: Yep, we're all in on this whole we can't wait campaign. 346 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: So CTA is all in as a statewide organization is 347 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: supporting this. But different than other statewide unions, we don't 348 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: align contracts. 349 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: Local associations and local unions do that. 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: Okay, So you said earlier that some districts hoarding money. 351 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to pick this up after 352 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the break, Johnny, all right, sounds good to me. Eight 353 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two is the 354 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: telephone number. What eight hundred two two two five two 355 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: two two. If you'd like to email the show, you 356 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: can do show at Johnny don't like show at gmail 357 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: dot com. 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Tickets 384 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: furnished by Live Nation. Good luck dialing. 385 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the interview between the 386 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: president of the California Teachers Association and kcra's Ashley's Evallove. 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: So you said earlier that some districts are hoarding, but 388 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: many of these school districts are limited with their budgets, 389 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: and even more so now with cities across the state 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: and the state itself having these massive budget deficits. I 391 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: mean a CTA ignoring that well, and. 392 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: Not to mention declining enrollment, which is a state It's 393 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: mostly focused in the Bay Area, but it is a 394 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: state wide issue, and declining enrollment means you have less 395 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: money in your budget to spend on everything. 396 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: And enrollment isn't just down by a tick, it's in 397 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: free fall from their peak. 398 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you City budgets don't impact school budgets, 399 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: and I guess so you're asking me. 400 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: So when we do analysis of, for. 401 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: Example, the districts in your area, Twin Rivers, when we 402 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: can compare Twin Rivers to the forty other districts that 403 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: have a similar size district with similar students, has more 404 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: money squirreled away than any other district in the state. 405 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: So that's bond money. 406 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Isn't the whole point of trying to keep the State 407 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: of California out of a budget crisis. This was going 408 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: back to Jerry Brown, a rainy day fund where you 409 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: had money in the bank in case there was an 410 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: actual crisis. There's a massive earthquake, there's some kind of 411 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: environmental disaster, whatever, something big happens that is unanticipated and 412 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: you need to go back to business as usual pronto. 413 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: You have the money to use it. You're not supposed 414 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: to use that money for regular expenses. You're supposed to 415 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: use that money for emergencies. 416 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: That's the facts Neotomas. Also, these are different than other 417 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: parts of the states. These districts actually have increasing enrollments 418 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: where they get more and more money per student. There's 419 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: no reason for them. We also look as a statewide organization. 420 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: Okay, so if you're going to make the argument that 421 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: they should get more money if enrollment is increasing, what 422 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: is your argument if enrollment is. 423 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: Decreasing, more money. That's what I thought for them. 424 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: We also look as a statewide organization. We are committed 425 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It's also getting more statewide revenue. In fact, 426 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: we lead on that. In fact, we have a ballot 427 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: initiative we're trying to put on the ballot right. 428 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: Now, yet another one. Get ready for November. Kids. Oh 429 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: good lord. There is going to be multiple pages of 430 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: propositions for tax increases and bonds for every subject under 431 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: the sun this year. 432 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I think this electorate is going to go 433 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: for most of them. 434 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: Well, let's check in. 435 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: No, I don't know enough to give you any good information, 436 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: but the luck finding someone who does, which will increase 437 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: the taxes on the wealthiest Californians and make it a 438 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: permanent extension of a tax. It's not an increased text 439 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: because we already have it now, but it'll continue to 440 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 2: try to stabilize some of this funding. 441 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Keep this in mind the next time they tell you 442 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: that a tax is temprey. There is no such thing 443 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: as a temporary tax. They get it, and the first 444 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: thing they do is they try to make it permanent. 445 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: But we education. Look, we have more billionaires than anywhere 446 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: in the state, not. 447 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: As many as we used to. You can thank the 448 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: SEIU for that. 449 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: Anywhere in this nation, anywhere in this world. 450 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: In California, we have some of the biggest corporations in 451 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: the history of this world. Education is not getting anywhere 452 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: near what it deserves. When you compare us to other states, 453 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: is really, frankly a false equivalence. Our economy is the 454 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: fourth largest economy when we compare it to other nations. 455 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: Yes, but on the money that we do spend, we 456 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 3: have worse outcomes. What's that about? Yeah, how about this? 457 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Compare the reading test, the same test between the students 458 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: here in California and the students in the forty nine 459 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: other states. 460 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: So there is not enough funding, and that is true, 461 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: and we're committed to work in a frankly. 462 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: Would boy he has used that word seventeen times already 463 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: haven't gotten a quite though. 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: No, frankly, we would have wished the districts would have 465 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: been pushing around this a long time ago. But at 466 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: the same time were also really committed to the fact 467 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: that because money can be scarce, that every dollar that 468 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: districts get should be spent on students now, on educators now, 469 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: and not hoarded away as they are in these districts. 470 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: Not all of it's hoarded away, some of it's wasted 471 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: on crooked AI schemes, like with Roalberto Carvallo at LAUSD 472 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: that was six billion dollars that could have gone to Cicily, 473 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: both Twin Mbers and Anatomis. 474 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: But some of these districts, sax City Unified for example, 475 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: I mean they've they've struggled to say no to you. 476 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: They've given CTA. 477 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: That's a great way to put it. 478 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, Oakland and sax City Unified are 479 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: exactly what happens when you don't ever say no to 480 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: the teachers' union. You write checks that you cannot cash 481 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: and you go into receivership. 482 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 4: But some of these districts, Saxity Unified, for for example, 483 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: I mean they've they've struggled to say no to you. 484 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: They've given CTA what it is wanted, and now it's 485 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: in a situation where they're really strapped for cash because 486 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: they have given into CTA's demands in the past. I mean, 487 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 4: local school districts are not revenue generators. I mean, why 488 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 4: flex this political muscle with this campaign against these school 489 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: districts that are struggling and relying on public funds. 490 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah again, I do want to make thistincture. They're not 491 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: saying no to CTA about anything. 492 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: These Oh, stop with the technicalities of we're not encouraging 493 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: these unions to do any of this. 494 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Okay, while we're talking about education and we're California ranks 495 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: with the rest of the world. He keeps trying to 496 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: say that we're bigger than Japan and we're like our 497 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: own country. When you look at test scores and here 498 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at test scores eighth grade math, which is 499 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the most cited, California is in the lower tier. We 500 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: rank thirty eighth in math thirty eight. You know who's 501 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: in the top tier Florida, Texas, Utah, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Virginia, 502 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: and Colorado. Florida and Texas, two states that Gavin Newsom 503 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: really has to be in his bonnet with, are in 504 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: the top tier and we are in the very bottom tier. 505 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: And look what we spend compared to what they spend. 506 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: And you tell me if we're getting a good bang 507 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: for our buck. 508 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I do want to make thistinction. They're not 509 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: saying no to CTA about anything. These are local unions 510 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: and local members and local educators who are making these 511 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: We support each one of them in these struggles. But 512 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: this is not This is not a flex of political muscle. 513 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: This is a flex of worker power and workers pent 514 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: up frustration about not being able to survive, not being 515 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: able to stay in the district. Because you break up sacks, 516 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: I've tucked to every strike line I'm on. Yesterday you 517 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: have many people from sax City who used to work 518 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: in the Thomas and Twin Rivers were coming back to 519 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: support their colleagues and saying, I'm sorry you have left 520 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: you guys in your district to gone to sax City 521 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: for the healthcare. 522 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: Benefits because sax City wrote a deal that they could 523 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: not cash. The other districts, of course, need to do 524 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: the exact same thing. So every school district in Sacramento 525 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: can go into receivership. 526 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: And if you were to ask this guy, well, what's 527 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: supposed to happen if these districts go under, his answer 528 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: would be, well, Gavin needs to bail them out. 529 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Of course, what's happening is these districts that are on 530 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: strike are fighting for the same thing that other districts 531 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: are around them and saying, why do we deserve less 532 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: here than anywhere else? 533 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So on that note, then clearly there's a broader 534 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: conversation about funding to be had. 535 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: Then. 536 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: I mean, with these strikes happening across the state, CTA 537 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: being the statewide lobbying armed for them, I mean, why 538 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: not take this to lawmakers at the state capitol who 539 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: are there to address state wide issues. 540 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: That's exactly what we're doing. This is just part of 541 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: that process. As I said, we have a statewide initiative. 542 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: There is the idea here that the strikes are going 543 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: to get the public on their side, because I don't 544 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: know if that necessarily is true anymore yet. What they're doing, 545 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: I think is they're trying to create news in all 546 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: the big media markets. You notice it's going on in 547 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the Bay Area it's going on in Los Angeles, it's 548 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: going on in Sacramento. They want to try to whip 549 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: up public support for the teachers so they can then 550 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: parlay it into some statewide tax increase. 551 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: As I said, we have a statewide initiative that we're 552 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: putting on the ballot. In the process of doing that, 553 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: I was a press conference two days ago in front 554 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: of the state capitol calling on lawmakers to fund public education. 555 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: How much is enough? Never? 556 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: But that's not disconnected. There are all things can be 557 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: true at the same time. In fact, where we fight 558 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: for more funding at the state wide level, parents can 559 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: rightfully should say, well, then we want to push our 560 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 2: districts and do the right thing with it. 561 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 5: If my district's hoarding millions of dollars, maybe they don't 562 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 5: need the money, which is not true. 563 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: So it's all connected, fighting for what educators deserve and 564 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: need in classrooms and schools and their local districts. 565 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you these fights in this non 566 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: stop every three years the schools are going on strike. 567 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: It is just going to inches closer and closer to 568 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: the robot teachers because robot teachers don't need a salary 569 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: and robot teachers don't go on strike. 570 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: That is exactly where we're headed. Who can put up 571 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: with this nonsense? Who could put up with these people? 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: And this guy, by the way, runs arguably, if not 573 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the CTA, it's the SEIU, one of the two most 574 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: powerful unions in the state of California. And now that 575 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: they're putting attacks on the ballot on November, you better 576 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: bet your bottom dollar that whichever candidate they endorse for 577 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: governor is going to get behind that initiative and campaign 578 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: on its be half. 579 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: Is also connected to fighting for state funding and fighting 580 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: also around ballot initiative as well, And we're we're engaged 581 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: as much as we can at all three of those things. 582 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: In fact, this week, we're engaged with all three of 583 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: those things simultaneously, and we're gonna have to be. That's 584 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: the situation we find ourselves in. 585 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 4: But this campaign was announced a year ago. Why didn't 586 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: the work start then? 587 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: Good question. She's the best. 588 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 589 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: jellphone number one eight hundred two to two two five 590 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: two two two. If you'd like to email the show, 591 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: you can do so at Johnny Don't Like Show at 592 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail 593 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: dot com and Randy Eremonitor in the mail bag, Nicholas 594 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: writes in at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot 595 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: com and the subject of teacher pay. 596 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: On this subject, you're dead wrong. They are systematically underpaid, 597 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: not slightly, but tremendously. Better teachers leave. I toadd here 598 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: in a New Jersey. In a New Jersey, my paid 599 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: double well. 600 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: In New Jersey, the test scores are good, so maybe 601 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: the teachers deserve more. In New Jersey they were in 602 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the top tier. We're in the bottom tier. Why should 603 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: we pay more for awful test results? And go back 604 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: to what this guy from the union is saying. He 605 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: seems to understand that these school districts are broke. He 606 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: seems to realize that there's no money. What he wants 607 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: to do is he wants to raid the rainy day 608 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: funds and the bond money and shift that money to 609 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: teacher salaries. Well, you're not supposed to do that. That 610 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: is fiscally irresponsible. It's not what the money is for. 611 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: In some cases, I don't even think it's legal. And 612 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: then his answer is, well, we'll raise taxes statewide. We're 613 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: putting an initiative on the ballot that we think the 614 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: voters are going to get behind, so raid money that's 615 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: not supposed to go to salaries and raise taxes and 616 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: produce all full results. How is that doable? None of 617 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: what they want is sustainable. And I don't even know 618 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: how to do math besides add some drag, multiply and divide, 619 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: and I can tell you that's not going to work out. 620 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: You know, there was a state law that was passed 621 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: that requires now for graduation students take a financial literacy course. 622 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: The unions might need to take that class too. They 623 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: just don't care. 624 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Their attitude is if you go bankrupt, sell what the 625 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: state will bail you out, and then we'll just ask 626 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: for more. 627 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the interview with Ashley Zavala. 628 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: This work has been going on for decades around fighting 629 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: for funding. We have in fact that, as I mentioned, 630 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: the initiative that we're trying to is a renewal of 631 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: the initiative that we already got passed almost ten years ago, 632 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 2: and then we renewed it. It was Prop thirty, then 633 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: Prop fifty five was around state funded. That's about and 634 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 2: now we're trying to permanently renew profit we've been fighting for. 635 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is every time you put an 636 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: innitit on the ballot, it's still not enough. No, I'm 637 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: telling you what's going to happen is they're all going 638 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: to be replaced by AI. It may not be tomorrow, 639 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: but that is absolutely coming because you can't do this 640 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: and expect to survive in the long term. And not 641 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: only is he doing this with his foot fully on 642 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: the gas pedal, but I don't even think that car 643 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: has any breaks. 644 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: We've been fighting for state funding since day one. We 645 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: fight every year around in the legislature around state funding. 646 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: We fight year every year to protect Prop ninety eight. 647 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: So when is enough enough? It's not. 648 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: And with these people, and where does the Prop ninety 649 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: eight money go? Where the hell does the lottery money go? 650 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: John? Do you know how much money you personally have 651 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: given to California State schools with your gambling habit? Where 652 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: does that money go? That's a good question. 653 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: This is they're not Those two things are not contradictory. 654 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: In fact, they're related in the way that our fight 655 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: is aided when they see when people believe that districts 656 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 2: are using the money. 657 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: Well, and that's well, who's doing that. 658 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Any ideas we get an FBI investigation to LAUSD blowing 659 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: six million dollars on an AI chatbot to teach kids algebra. 660 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: And that's why this part, this exciting part about this 661 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: is this is allowing us to fight on all levels 662 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: and really make the case of the public that we're 663 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: going to continue to fight for state resources. We're going 664 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: to continue to do that as we have since day one, 665 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: and we're also going to make sure that we fight 666 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: at the school level that districts don't squirrel this money away. 667 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: David, before I let you go, I mean, are you 668 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: concerned at all about the possibility of some political blowback 669 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: here because of the images that you're painting across the 670 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 4: state of local school districts hoarding funds. I mean that 671 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 4: could cause some parents teachers to either pull their kids out. 672 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: Of public school or you know, if you can afford to. 673 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: And you realize the constant disruptions of these strikes, including 674 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 3: the two years where kids were sent home, you might say, 675 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: screw it. 676 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: I went to public schools in California first grade through 677 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: my bachelor's degree, and I received an excellent education. I 678 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: see what has happened to public public schools since then? 679 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: And let me tell you I don't have kids. If 680 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: I did, there is zero percent chance I would send 681 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: them to those schools. Zero percent chance. Who can plan 682 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: on anything when these people are either going on strike 683 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: or threatening to go on strike and creating drama on 684 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: a NonStop basis. How can you plan on childcare? How 685 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: can you plan on whether or not you can do 686 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: a work trip. How can you plan on whether or 687 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: not I don't know you're in town or not for 688 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: one reason or another, you can't. And if you can't 689 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: plan your life like that, why would you send your 690 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: kids to those schools when there are other options? 691 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 4: I think it could point some people to elect different 692 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 4: people for their school boards. I mean, do you worry 693 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: that this could potentially backfire on CTA? 694 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, if we weren't doing anything about it, I really 695 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: would be worried. But if we're making this case at 696 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: the same time we're trying to correct this and push 697 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: districts to be right, and we see parents and educators 698 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: and students frankly overwhelmingly. 699 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: Support that's like the fiftieth time he did it. 700 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and students frankly overwhelmingly support and getting that we 701 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: are fighting for what they deserve and what they need. 702 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's because the students are dumb. Thanks to your membership. 703 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 5: I'm not worried about political blowback. I think, frankly, it's 704 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 5: there'd be that. 705 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Seriously, is like the seventh or eighth time he's done it. 706 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: The guy has a tick. 707 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: There'd be political blowback if we did not do this, 708 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: if we allowed students to continue to not get what 709 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: they do, and educators continue to not get with deserve frankly, 710 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: to leave this profession. 711 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 3: There was again you know what's going on here. 712 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: It's like what happened when they kept jack of the 713 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: minimum wage up for fast food workers. What happened? You 714 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: no longer order your food from an actual person. You 715 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: do it from your phone, or you do it from 716 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: a kiosk. They eliminated all of those jobs with AI. 717 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 5: I think this is the righteous struggle. 718 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: It's an incredible, beautiful gift of really educators putting not 719 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: getting paid and willing to struggle for themselves, their communities 720 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: and their students. There is actually something to be uplifted. 721 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 2: And I think parents overwhelmingly get this, and I've seen 722 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: it manifested it at strike lines and support across the state. 723 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: Is educators been doing that similar things all right? 724 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: David Golber with CTA, I think pre COVID, these teachers 725 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: strikes had a lot of public support. I think post 726 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: COVID a lot of parents have turned on the teachers' unions. Well, 727 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: what's the saying. 728 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered, And I think this 729 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: guy doesn't understand the difference. The increase in minimum wage 730 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: caused AI to take over so many fast food jobs. 731 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: What this guy is. 732 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: Doing right now at the beginning of the end for 733 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: public education, Mark my words. AI is coming to public education, 734 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: and as far as I'm concerned, it can't come fast 735 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: enough