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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Extra Earning postgame show with Bill Laski.

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Speaker 1: A minors to bring a guest on. He had won

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Speaker 1: twenty games in nineteen eighty an American League All Star,

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Speaker 1: won the World Series with the Baltimore Orioles in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty three. Inducted into the Baltimore Orioles Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety. Let's bring in the lefty, Scott McGregor. Scott,

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Speaker 1: how are you today? I'm doing great? Thank you, Scott.

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Speaker 1: You had a thirteen year career. Over those thirteen years,

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Speaker 1: eighty three complete games, twenty three shut out, something a

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Speaker 1: pitcher doesn't do anymore these days. How was her ability

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Speaker 1: to do those things? Well, it was it was just

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Speaker 1: expected of you.

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Speaker 2: I mean I came, you know, it was pre all

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Speaker 2: the other stuff, you know, generations that are going now.

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Speaker 2: But in high school, minor leagues, minor leagues, I got

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Speaker 2: two hundred innings of year, So I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: just what you were expected to do. You started the game,

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Speaker 2: and he wanted to go as long as you could.

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Speaker 2: And my gosh, and back in those days before we

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Speaker 2: left springtime, we were throwing complete games, getting ready for

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Speaker 2: the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to go back in time with is

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Speaker 1: where you grew up, southern California. You went to El

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Speaker 1: Segundro High School, home of the Eagles. You were three

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Speaker 1: sports star football, basketball, and baseball. What sport did you

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Speaker 1: gravitate to?

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously baseball. By the time I was nine years old,

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Speaker 2: they were matching me up with the older team Baber's

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Speaker 2: World Series and state champions. In high school, I had

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Speaker 2: George Brett as my high school shortstops, and yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was baseball, but then basketball, and I played Pop Warner

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Speaker 2: football for a while and see football in high school.

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Speaker 2: But my first year as a freshman high school won

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Speaker 2: fifteen games, and so my coach and my dad said, well,

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Speaker 2: do you think you're going to play football or baseball?

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I probably shouldn't play football. So I

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Speaker 2: stopped playing football then, but I loved playing basketball. It's

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Speaker 2: kept be in great shape for the season coming up. Well, Scott,

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Speaker 2: you were a pretty good hitter. You hit three ninety

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Speaker 2: four home runs twenty seven RBIs. You played the outfield

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Speaker 2: also grab it pitching. Of course, your numbers were exceeding

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Speaker 2: the best fifty one and five over your four years

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Speaker 2: and then your senior year eighteen and two with a

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Speaker 2: point two eight earned run average, just outstanding numbers, and

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Speaker 2: of course you were hard throwing lefty at that time.

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Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about those numbers and how

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Speaker 2: you exceeded these. You know, I could throw strikes. I

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Speaker 2: had a curveball, a big curveball, and it wasn't I

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Speaker 2: got the double a that I even knew what a

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Speaker 2: full seamer was, and ver even two one. But I

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Speaker 2: could throw strikes. I toreo hard for you know, for

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Speaker 1: Well, you had a full ride to USC. The New

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Speaker 1: York Yankees came knocking on your door. They drafted in

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Speaker 1: number one, fourteenth overall, and you sat down with your

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Speaker 1: dad and kind of discussed it about the signing bonus.

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about that day.

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Speaker 2: Well, we my high school coach had been through it

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Speaker 2: so he pretty much called the thing. I was the

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Speaker 2: first part of June when the draft was and and

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Speaker 2: my coach said, well, this is gonna be their first offer,

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Speaker 2: it was like, I go, dang, are you talking to

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Speaker 2: these people or what you know? So it went all

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Speaker 2: the way down to July. First I pitched against Alhambra

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Speaker 2: he's told me stories. I'm just going out give me

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Speaker 1: So you ended up signing with the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it worked out well, Yeah, it worked out

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Speaker 2: out great. Well. I ended up pitching that night and

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Speaker 2: remember Chris Mortenson, Sure, yeah, moret covered me in high

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Speaker 2: So he got there early. He was in my bedroom

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Speaker 1: An exciting time for your family, of course, with George

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Speaker 1: and Ken Brett being at your side. Some great advice.

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Speaker 1: Chris Morton said, what a great story that is. He

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Speaker 1: You had a fantastic career in high school. Now you

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Speaker 1: go on when you start playing in the Pinstripes and

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Speaker 1: you moved up pretty good. Tell me a little bit

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Speaker 2: Oh, it worked out great. I mean, you know, one

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Speaker 2: July first, you know, in Miami, I'm going, what is this?

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Speaker 2: You know? So we get there, old Yankee wool uniforms,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sweating my rear end off. My first game,

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Speaker 2: and I, as a matter of fact, I pinched it

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Speaker 2: and that was amazing, you know. I mean, I'm nineteen

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Speaker 2: throwing a bullpen to Elston Howard. Uh. Mickey Mantle's standing

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Speaker 2: you know. But yeah. And then that year I went

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Speaker 2: That was a rough year. But then in seven in

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Speaker 2: seventy six, we were in Memphis the June deadline. Coxie

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Speaker 2: surprised if your traded before the night. I looked at him,

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Speaker 2: the next day and that was it I got. I

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Speaker 2: like nine and one was six shutouts and they call

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Speaker 2: they called me up. Unfortunately I was there for parts

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Speaker 1: Scott McGregor joining me on the X Earning postgame show.

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Speaker 1: A fantastic career and one of the best things that

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 1: You go into the Baltimore Orioles and I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about six times, six times you threw two hundred innings.

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Speaker 1: You talked about it in the minor leagues, do it,

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Speaker 1: but at the big league level it's a totally different thing.

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Speaker 1: And you had to go out there and perform shutouts.

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Speaker 1: But six times out of your thirteen years you completed

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Speaker 1: two hundred innings and one time two hundred and sixty innings. Scott,

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Speaker 1: how did you get that? How did you do that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and you had to have good you know, mechanics,

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Speaker 2: You know, it was just I didn't have the lineup

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Speaker 2: I only got like ninety eight eight or so that year.

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Speaker 2: But the next year, when I was in the rotation,

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Speaker 2: Earl came to me one day Weaver and he said, listen,

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Speaker 2: for a while. You know. It was just like seventy

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Speaker 2: And Boddy Gritch told me one day, because we can't

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Speaker 2: thank you, Bobby. We appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, so it

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Speaker 2: then they had me go to Puerto Rico to get

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Speaker 2: I came back and threw two hundred and forty innings.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's like three hundred.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, number numbers that will never happen again, for sure.

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Speaker 1: What well, it stands out it stands out at extremely well.

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Speaker 1: a great year for you. You were eighteen and seven thirty

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Speaker 1: You lose the first game two to one. You guys

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Speaker 2: Oh, that was amazing, you know it was. I always

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Speaker 2: We said, okay, boys, because it was the same group,

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Speaker 1: So Scott McGregor joined me for a few more minutes

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Speaker 1: on the exter Arning postgame show. Scott, in thirteen years,

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Speaker 1: your defense was awesome. Nine errors nine errors only you

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Speaker 2: Well, I think back then, my motion was under control

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Speaker 2: so much there. I didn't pull myself way over to

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Speaker 2: you know, we we we harped on fielding bunts, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, Scott, you ended up having a teammate George brett

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Speaker 2: Well, he was getting me pretty good for a while,

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Speaker 1: No, you got him pretty good. He was twelve or

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Speaker 2: Well that's where the changeup came in, you know, because

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Speaker 1: Well, Scott, as we finish up here in the exter

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Speaker 1: of Fame in nineteen ninety. The exciting time for you

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Speaker 2: Oh that was really My family was all out, and

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Speaker 2: is practically the Hall of Fame with all the guys.

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Speaker 2: You know. My first start in the big leagues, I

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Speaker 2: you know. So it was you know, to get to

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Speaker 2: You know, to be a part of something special like that,

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Speaker 2: it was really you don't realize it at the time,

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Speaker 1: Well, Scott, it's a pleasure to get to talk to

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Speaker 1: you today and an honor talk about your great career.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. It was a pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was Scott McGregor and the Externing postgame show. More

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