1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Papa and Silver now continues live from the KNBR Casino 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Matrix Progressive Jackpots Studios Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots are here. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: Where are you just drop in? Please play responsibly? One 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: But my initial answer, because I kind of saw what 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: you're getting at, like, is he the guy for us 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: in that spot? 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: Was truly very very. 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Difficult in spring training because the other guy is a 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: so likable and also a good player too. So I'm 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: a firm believer. It's tough to convince high school kids 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: in college kids this, but internal competition is your best 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: friend if you're an athlete that's trying to get better. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: And I think the core group of the catching that 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: we had in spring training, those guys all made each 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: other better and they pushed each other, and so maybe 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: that's mate Susack even better than he already was. 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: That was Tony Vittello last night on Daniel Seussac and 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: the notion that internal competition is your best friend. It's 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: Papa and Silver with JD. Congratulations to our contest win 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: our final of the week, Eric and Rohnert Park. I 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: gotta tell you, JD, that quote is the one that 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: stuck with me the most last night, because there's a 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: lot made of when Tony Vattello will mention the sec 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: or his time in college or as other experiences. 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 5: Look at some point this guy, that's what he also 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 5: has to draw on. 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: And that was one where Yeah, you talk about something 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: that's very different, use a different perspective than what might 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: be believed around the league. And I'm not saying that 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: other managers are going to sit up there and say 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: internal competition is a bad thing, but just take the 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 4: example last night. Yeah, it was a one game sample size, 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: and it was a great one game sample size of 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: somebody like Daniel Sussak. You want to get out of 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: being five hundred, if you want to elevate the standard, 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: if you want to continue to thrive and bounce back 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: from this three to nothing, start the good vibes and 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: the energy and the word loose with Rafaeld Everson in 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: the homer. 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 5: That's all important. 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: You need that stuff, but you can't lose sight of 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: the ultimate goal, which is loose doesn't always equal relaxation. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: And I love that there might be a little bit 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: of internal competition going forward. And Daniel Susack rightfully deserves praise. 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: Now the question is how much more are we gonna 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: see him? Is it going to be a couple of 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: times a week? Is he going to be mixing in 49 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: a little more frequently? And this is someone that, if 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: it's anything like last night, is an absolute weapon against 51 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: left handed pitching. 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we don't know. I mean to go back 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 6: to you know, it is early in his one game. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 6: It was a hell of a debut for Daniel Susack. 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 6: And I'll say it. I mean I said it earlier 56 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 6: in to begin the show, like I think it's fair, 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: you know, because Giants fans are thinking it. You know, 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 6: do you want to give a catcher that may have 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 6: a little bit of a better bat, more of an 60 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: opportunity to be mixed in there, you know, with Patrick 61 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 6: Bailey or instead of some days than Patrick Bailey. We 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 6: know the job that he does in terms of handling 63 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 6: a staff and pitch framing and throwing runners out and 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 6: all of that elite gold glove cannot be denied. But 65 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 6: I think the other part of the equation for the 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 6: Giants is can they be you know, as good as 67 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: they want to be or better than they've been over 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 6: these last four years? Without getting a little bit more 69 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 6: offense from the catching position. And so that I think 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: is something worth monitoring to where you know, does it 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 6: become a scenario And I would I would lean into 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 6: if Sussac's got a hot bat here, which he clearly 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: does to begin his career, I'd lean into throwing him 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: out there again in this series, you know, including potentially 75 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: maybe even tonight. So I think, you know, we'll see 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: you want to stick with Bailey, but at some point 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 6: you know to go back, and I agree with you. 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 6: I like what Vitello said there about competition. It's where 79 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 6: the competition spot's going to be for for the Giants, 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 6: you know, I think eventually could be right field, could 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: be center field over the long haul, could could be 82 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 6: you know, the d H spot who's going to be 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 6: in there with regular And I think the catching spot 84 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 6: also in addition to of course the bullpen, where rolls 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 6: are completely completely I think undefined and flexible for the 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 6: most part as they try to figure out what they 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 6: have in terms of certain situations. So but this spot 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 6: in particular, I'd say it because I know Giants fans 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 6: are thinking it. Do you want to see Susak get 90 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: in there? A little bit more frequently, even if it's 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 6: two or three days a week instead of maybe one. 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: Well, SUO nine on the Golden State lumberd Showroom text 93 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: line threw this one out there, says, I remember when 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 4: the switch took place between Benji and Buster, and I 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: remember Timmy was not very happy. Benji was a very 96 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: well liked player and leader in the Giants clubhouse. But 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: the switch netted us three world championships. Not saying that 98 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: Susak is going to bring us three championships, but we 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: can see what the lineup does when people are hitting 100 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 4: at the bottom. Yes, it's a super small sample size, 101 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: but the eye test is undeniable. And SUO nine's right 102 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: when talking about of course it's a small sample size, 103 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: and it was awesome, right the little kid. We love 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: how much his family was enjoying that, the ties that 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: his brother Andrew has to the organization and being Busters backup, 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: that's all a fantastic story. Here's what we do have 107 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: a sample size on though, JD. And it's two things 108 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 4: and two sides of the coin. 109 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: One is just. 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: How valuable Patrick Bailey is behind the plate as a 111 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: catcher and a gold glover defensively and also the degree 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: with which he has struggled hitting the ball since the 113 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: All Star break of twenty twenty four. Those are both 114 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: one hundred percent factors, but we do have a sample 115 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: size on and that's kind of what makes it tough 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: when you're assessing a player. But two O nine's right. 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: When the bottom of your lineup is the one that's producing, 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 4: that takes a lot of pressure off. When Willie Adamas, 119 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: who's been leading off comes home and it wasn't his 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: night last night, but it doesn't matter because you got 121 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: Devers and then you got Lee with the sackfly and 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: Schmid's getting hits and Sue Sack at the bottom of 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: the lineup like that changes everything with just kind of 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: the pressure that you feel when you're trying to muster 125 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: up some offense when I mean, we kind of saw 126 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: that all play out over the first weekend. And so 127 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: again I think it's a good comparison where you bring 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: up the Benji Buster thing, and it's not saying Susack 129 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: is going to be the next Buster Posey. That wasn't 130 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 4: the point of it. The point was what it does 131 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: to the bottom of the lineup and also just how 132 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: much internal competition can maybe push an organization to uphold 133 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: a little bit of higher standards. 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 6: They're just gonna need to have some competition at different spots. 135 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 6: That's that's the thing that I keep I keep coming 136 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 6: back to, uh and and so, and the catching spot 137 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 6: could and and likely, you know, in all likelihood will 138 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 6: be I think a spot where where the competition, you know, 139 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 6: needs to needs to be there if Bailey isn't going 140 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 6: to produce, and I think as a starting point, it's 141 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 6: do you mix in Susack a little bit more? 142 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: Uh? And again? 143 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 6: I want to see it play again, ride the hot 144 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 6: bat a little bit at that position. 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: Well, here's another thing. Do you just play Susack more. 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that you entirely dump Bailey and get 147 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: rid of it. But if this is a guy, guy 148 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: who has broken down and tailed off at the plate 149 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: at the after the All Star break particularly, I mean, 150 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: it's kind of been more of a season long struggle. 151 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: But we've also seen how particularly twenty twenty four and 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: then the year after, there has been some mid to 153 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: late summer kind of slumping there. If you're throwing in 154 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: Sue Sack an extra day a week, perhaps that's the 155 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: kind of thing that keeps him fresh and gets him 156 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: enough reps at the plate, while also can preserve the 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: longevity of someone like Bailey over the course. 158 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: Of a year. 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Exactly. 160 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 6: And so he has you know, there has been the 161 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 6: second half issues with with Sue Sack, and I'm sorry 162 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 6: with Bailey in terms of not performing at the level 163 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 6: in the second half of the season as he did 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 6: in the in the first half of the season. So 165 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 6: you're gonna need options. And look, Bailey still brings an 166 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 6: element to the table. And if the other guys throughout 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 6: the course of the lineup hit at the level that 168 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 6: you know they're expected to, then maybe Bailey can be 169 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: somebody that can hit eighth or hit ninth and you're 170 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 6: and be clutch and kind of make the make the 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 6: move from there. 172 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: Four one, five, eight oh eight, five, six two seven. 173 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: That's the number two chime in. We'll keep it on 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: the Giants, and then Matt Barrows is gonna join us 175 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: at eleven fifty as we check in on his latest 176 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: from Phoenix, and as Todd Hustack told Krug and I yesterday, 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: it's always football season. So we'll get you some Niners 178 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: talk coming up shortly as well. More coming up. It's 179 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: Papa and Silver with JD on the Sports. 180 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Leader K and b RB Sports Leader Papa and Silver 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: now continues live from the KNBR Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots Studios. 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots are here. Where are you just 183 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: drop in? Please play responsibly? One eight hundred gambler. 184 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 5: Oh great, you know, just to get out there play baseball. 185 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: Game was really funk. 186 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 187 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: I had a lot of support, a lot of family here, 188 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 5: so it's good, you know, have them all. 189 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 7: Oh, Willie, welly, you gotta tell you, gotta tell me, Well, 190 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 7: one thing's for sure. 191 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: If you're gonna win, my not be a rack Field 192 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: Dever's homer. It might not be a unicorn mask, but 193 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 4: it certainly the guarantee is Willie Adamus and the gatorade 194 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: shower going on, Daniel Sussak and Kylon Mills and Sean 195 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: Estas who are down on the field with him. So, JD, 196 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if you thought this in real time, 197 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: but Waltz asked me before the show, and I have 198 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: an answer to it. After hearing just audio, he goes, 199 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: that was one of the more aggressive gatorade dumps I've 200 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: ever heard. And I was like, well, I'm thinking about football, 201 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: like that's always kind of aggressive. Big dudes lifted up 202 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: a giant tub. If you wear the. 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: Super Bowl like you're going crazy. 204 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: But here in the audio just now, I'm like, yeah, 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: he's got a good point, Like that was a pretty 206 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: isolated splash right there by Willie. 207 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: That is my worst fear in it on. 208 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 6: One of my worst fears in life is losing a 209 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: laptop in the way Kylon lost the laptop last night, 210 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 6: And not that I'm necessarily in that position, but just 211 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 6: any kind of spillage, just natural spillage and keeping keeping 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 6: cups away from the electronics. Nothing she could do in 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 6: that one other than trying to cover it up. But oh, 214 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: I felt that a great moment for the giants and 215 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 6: the vibes and everything in the big Way, and you 216 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 6: want to see the clubhouse loose, And I just that 217 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 6: there was a little piece of me that died at 218 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 6: seeing that laptop go down. Oh oh, dry be crazy. 219 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm with you. 220 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: And coming from you know, two parents, particularly one who 221 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: is like psycho when it comes to any sort of 222 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: technical difficulty, technology issue, technology threat, It's like, yeah, that 223 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: one had to hurt I guess that was Kylon's welcome 224 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: back to the Bay moment. It's not really a welcome 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: to the Bay because she's been around before and moved 226 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: here in twenty twenty when she took the job at 227 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: kron But yeah, man, that was a little bit of 228 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: a hazing as far as going with the new role. 229 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 5: And so Willie Thomas. 230 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: I think what we've learned is, you know, he's showing 231 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: no mercy to any of the victims of his gatorade showers. 232 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 6: I lost a laptop in the Oracle Park press box 233 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 6: in twenty and fifteen thanks to I don't know if 234 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: I should name names, Ryan Leong walking by with walking 235 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: by carrying a cup of I think it was tea 236 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: or coffee or something, and bumped into my chair. The 237 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 6: cup flipped up and it wasn't even the full cup, 238 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 6: but it was just you know, a couple of drops 239 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 6: and it went right on the keyboard and the thing, 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 6: the thing went out and was done, and it was 241 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: a It was a MacBook that I'd had probably for 242 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 6: about three years at that point, for pretty close to 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 6: for so it was getting to be on the on 244 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 6: the time to where maybe I was going to get 245 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: a new one but still fully functional. All good. Take 246 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 6: it in, they take it apart. They're like, yeah, this 247 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 6: thing's fried. It got liquid on it, it got liquid 248 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 6: in the wrong spot, and it's fried. It's cooked. It's over. 249 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 6: You got to get your When did you buy it, oh, 250 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: four years ago? Yeah, it's time to get a time 251 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 6: to get a new laptop. So yeah, yeah, I've lost one, 252 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: and not exactly that's not as cool as the way 253 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: Kyler lost hers. 254 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, and I'm sure she's getting another one. 255 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 6: Uh but I just I know the feeling, and it 256 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: took me back, and it was it was painful. It 257 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 6: was absolutely painful. And no I didn't throw him through 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 6: the window when he did it. Yeah that, No, I 259 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 6: can run a little hot. 260 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, j D that that wasn't nearly 261 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 8: as uh as fun as as what happened with Kylon. 262 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: Not not at all, not at all, but again, it 263 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: just did. 264 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it took me back, and that's why it's my worst, 265 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 6: you know, some of my worst professional fears. 266 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 8: Also the device, the aggressive nature of that gatorade dump. 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 8: I just got to say, you know, p s A 268 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 8: for for the giant drink down the water cooler a 269 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 8: little bit, you know, you know, get a little less 270 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 8: water in there. 271 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: Uh and and everyone will will be carrier more, more carriable. Yeah. 272 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that was like the most full water 273 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 8: cooler that I've ever seen. 274 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: Um, Like, were they not drinking it? What's going on? 275 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 4: Well, I don't want them to drink it because the 276 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: way they're actually running the bases now and taking extra nineties, 277 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: I don't want anything else weighing them down. 278 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: Like this is a game of small margins. Okay, Like 279 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: you don't have to let the will because guess what. 280 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: If you're over drinking the cooler of gatorade or water 281 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: or whatever's in there, there's not gonna be a shower 282 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: to worry about after the game because you're not going 283 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: to take advantage of the base path. 284 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: You got a hydrate, got a hydrate, So yeah, definitely 285 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: make sure you're hydrated. And maybe maybe that was a 286 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 6: you know, the second cooler or they had to fill 287 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 6: it up because guys are drinking so much of the 288 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 6: of the good stuff, So we'll see. But yeah, that 289 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 6: was a It was a great moment for the Giants. 290 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: It was a rough moment for the for the laptop. 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: Well to segue it back into our larger conversation on 292 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: the Giants, and there're seven to win over the Mets. 293 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: How are we in terms of glass half full, glass 294 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: half empty? You know, where are we at on the 295 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: larger cup? If we're talking about how full is it 296 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 5: with the Giants? 297 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: I think you could say the water levels rose quite 298 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: a bit over the past few days, But what are 299 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: we looking at in the larger picture? They are still 300 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: a three and four team very early in the season. 301 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: Padres off to a bumpy start. 302 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: Mets have not been their best and they obviously spent 303 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: a lot of money this offseason, but they kind of 304 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: did a full overhaul in terms of in terms of 305 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: what they did, you know, Boba shit in like you 306 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: talk about Brandon Nimo, Marcus Sime like, they went all 307 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: over the place in terms of their roster. And then 308 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: the Phillies are coming into town. I think there's a 309 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: good text though that JD wanted to get to that 310 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: we did not address yet. So let's let's hear it 311 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: here now with a little three and four start. 312 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we were. 313 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 6: Asking the question about, you know, do you believe that 314 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 6: this team is closer to the team that we saw 315 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 6: against the Yankees, or the team that's you know, closer 316 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: to we've seen in three in the last four and 317 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 6: the eight three to one chiming in none of the 318 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 6: above JD. My answer is need thirty games into the 319 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: season for me to make that decision, because this is 320 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 6: a bullpen. I don't know enough about at a starting 321 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 6: eight that I expect to hit far better than they 322 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 6: have thus far, not enough of a sample size. I 323 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 6: expect this team to be three and six, three to 324 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 6: six games over five hundred at the minimum. So basically, 325 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 6: you know, in eighty two, eighty three, eighty four, kind 326 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 6: of kind of a win team and obviously not playing 327 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: at that pace, although you get two more wins in 328 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: the next two days and then you are suddenly playing 329 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: at better than that pace. So you got to be 330 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 6: careful with the whole pace conversation. 331 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: But I don't know. Of course, the answer is you 332 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: need more time. 333 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: But I just think it's it's interesting because we've seen 334 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: what it looks like when they win, and the template 335 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 6: and and you know a couple of games where they've 336 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: hit here, I think it would be very good if 337 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 6: they can hit mid to mediocre pitching you can make 338 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: a lot of hay in a major league season. If 339 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: you can hit mid to mediocre pitching, maybe you're not 340 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 6: gonna face the aces, and you know, the Yankees put 341 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: some tough pitching up against them. You know, Pavet is 342 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: somebody that's that's pretty damn good. That's the the you know, 343 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 6: the padres ace Uh at this point, and somebody that's 344 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 6: really gotten after the Giants in the past. So maybe 345 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 6: you're not necessarily going to hit the aces all the time. 346 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 6: But if you can hit uh, you know that the 347 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: three four fives at a high level, you can win 348 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 6: a lot of those games. But I think the concern 349 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: is that the way when they've lost, it's looked a 350 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 6: lot like the way that they've lost in the last 351 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 6: four years, and you know, when they've won, it's it's 352 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: looked you know, I think for the most part, you know, 353 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 6: pretty refreshing, and the bullpen, you know, to be optimistic about. 354 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: There's certain parts of it that you can be optimistic about. 355 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 6: But it's interesting because the to me, I tend to 356 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 6: look at the losses that they've had and it looking 357 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: so similar, and that makes me concern that that we 358 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: might be in for a good, steady stream of back 359 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 6: to the gravitational pull of of five hundred. We've already 360 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 6: seen it here a weekend of the season. Not that 361 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 6: they're gonna be bad, because I don't think they're gonna 362 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 6: be bad, but are they gonna be that team that 363 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: levels up from eighty one eighty two, even if it's 364 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 6: just five or six games, Because I think that ultimately 365 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 6: is their their goal for the season. 366 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 5: No question. 367 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: And I would say when the bottom of the lineup 368 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 4: is producing, that's one of the things that does give 369 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: me optimism about like the Texter said, one through eight hitters. Now, 370 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: I don't believe that it's gonna make them automatically a 371 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: team that's chasing ninety wins, but certainly a huge breath 372 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: of fresh air after how badly they struggled against the Yankees. 373 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: I do wonder over the long haul of a season, 374 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: how it's gonna look against when you know some aces 375 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: like you're gonna face Christopher Sanchez when the Phillies come, 376 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: You're gonna have Yamamoto waiting for you when you come 377 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: back home off the road trip, when the Dodgers come 378 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: to town. So those are also gonna be important tests 379 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: and to JD's point. If you can do pretty well 380 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: against middle to back end starting rotation guys, that's gonna 381 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: be enough to have you get a solid season. But 382 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: at some point, sooner or later, you're gonna have to 383 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: show out against top end of the rotation starters and 384 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: some of the better bullpens in this league too. And 385 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: so like when I see the bottom of the lineup, 386 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: give you a little bit of production, love the proper 387 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: outs and the sacrifice flies of last night taking advantage 388 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: of runners on third with less than two outs. The defense, 389 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: no matter what, is something that's going to have to 390 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: be tight. That's why I really like the Harrison Bader 391 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: acquisition thus far, jung Hulee, Ramos still kind of getting comfortable, 392 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: Ramos same position off a brutal year, and jung Hulee 393 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: shifting over to write which an Oracle Park is far 394 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: from the easiest thing to do. And then on the 395 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: infield side, I mean, I'll say it again, like on 396 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 4: the catch the f and ball game, was it drawing 397 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: conclusions that Casey Schmidt was a terrible player now, but 398 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: it was also a reminder that your defense has to 399 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: be tight, like you're not a consistent offensive team to 400 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: this point to where you can allow your defense to 401 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: be giving up errors or free runs or free bases 402 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 4: and anything of that. Like love what I've seen from 403 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: Luis Rise. Hopefully you can get Rafael Dever's playing first 404 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: and doing so more comfortably. That was one area if 405 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: we're talking about the end of last season and kind 406 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: of forecasting into this season. I wanted to see as 407 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: much Devors as possible at first base, and for the 408 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: most part, I actually was fairly impressed, considering that he'd 409 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 4: never done it at the major league level and it 410 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: was all brand new to him. So I want to 411 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: see him continue to grow in that role with the 412 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: guidance of Iron Washington. But for the reasons of the hamstring, 413 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: we obviously haven't gotten to see that yet. 414 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: Nine one six chime it in here. 415 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 6: Good show, guys, if if healthy, more optimistic, But the 416 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 6: team must hit for a higher average overall, and Adamas 417 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 6: is an enigma, far too inconsistent, and I don't understand 418 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 6: him him leading off at all. What are your thoughts? 419 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 6: That's from Paul in the nine to one to six. 420 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: Appreciate that, Paul, Yeah. 421 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Paul, And my thoughts are I was 422 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: also very wary of the decision to lead off Willie 423 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 4: a Damas, but in Tony Weitzelo and the coaching staff defense, 424 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: it did work fairly well down in San Diego, so 425 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: continue give him some leeway on doing that in the 426 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: same way that I thought Luis Rise hitting forth was 427 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 4: very unconventional. Hey, he's probably been your most consistent guy 428 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: in the lineup. So I like the fact that he's 429 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: tinkering around with it and not getting two stuck in ways, 430 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: but also in the act of tinkering, still giving that 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: trust to a lot of the same players and not 432 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: yanking people from positions they want to play or spots 433 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: in the lineup that they want to hit. It's just 434 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: different ways of doing things with the same group that 435 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: you know you're gonna have to rely on over the season. 436 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, and again, there are areas in which I think 437 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 6: you're probably you know, if you go through the different phases, 438 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 6: there are areas where maybe you're more you know, optimistic. 439 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 6: You know, the bullpen is intriguing. Like I'm not ready 440 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: to say, hey, their bullpen is better than I expected 441 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 6: it to be, But to this point, their bullpen's bit 442 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 6: better that I expected it to be, but the long 443 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: haul of one hundred and sixty two will always expose 444 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 6: your flaws, and it will in particular expose if you 445 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: have a thinner bullpen. In fairness, though, that's also an 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 6: area where if you're in the race, you can go 447 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 6: add you know, two guys right to that bullpen, and 448 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, a shaky bullpen can can become 449 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 6: a pretty solid bullpen, and we've seen the Giants be 450 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 6: able to go do that. And you know, going back 451 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 6: to the early part of the ten, twelve, and fourteen run, 452 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 6: you can always add bullpen. You know, Brian Sabian would 453 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: always look to go add bullpen until he had guys 454 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 6: obviously that he could trust among the you know, core 455 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 6: four guys that led the way in ten and twelve 456 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 6: and fourteen. 457 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: So bullpen a little more. 458 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 6: Optimistic about I'm feeling good about my prediction about the 459 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 6: back end of the rotation that one. 460 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: I am kind of kind of doing the. 461 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 6: Old shoulder pat probably a little too quickly seven games 462 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 6: into the year. But I think the offense is the one. 463 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 6: The offense is the part of this team that does 464 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 6: seem very much the same and that they're not completely 465 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 6: inept by any means, And they do have some good hitters, 466 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 6: but do they have enough to be insistent enough to 467 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 6: where they're not going to have a lot of nights 468 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 6: like the ones that we've seen to this point. Really 469 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 6: what five five of the seven games they really I 470 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 6: think you could This is probably too broad of a statement, 471 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 6: but could you say five of the seven games they 472 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 6: haven't really hit, like if you just wanted to say, 473 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: like I test and they won one of those games, 474 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 6: obviously in the opener against the Padre, but basically five 475 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 6: of the seven games they haven't hit, So that would 476 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 6: be a little bit concerning. And of course you're not 477 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 6: going to lose every game like that, especially if you 478 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 6: have a Robbie Ray and a Logan Web pitching. Well, 479 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 6: but I do know that would be the biggest concern 480 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 6: to this point is that the hitting has looked very 481 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: much like it did, you know, last year, let's say, 482 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: with a lot of the same players. 483 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: Well, the last text. 484 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: I want to throw at you, and we can revisit 485 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: this maybe a little later on and honestly probably throughout 486 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: the season as we continue to get more information before 487 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: we get some Matt Barrows eight three to one what 488 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: about the first seven games gives any indication that this 489 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: team is any different than the past several five hundred teams. 490 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 4: They're hot when they're hot, they're cold when they're not. 491 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: I think that's a fair text, and honestly, to eight 492 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: three to one, I don't know if I'm ready to 493 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: say that there is any indication that this thing is 494 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: going to be different. 495 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: Now. 496 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: The pitching has been a pleasant surprise, and we know 497 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: that in the past it's typically been you have the 498 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: expectation of the pitching, whereas the offense it's got to 499 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: be more opportunistic and timely hitting. So in theory, this 500 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: offense might be able to lead you a little bit 501 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: more and we'll see how the pitching holds up. 502 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 5: But by and large, I don't know if there. 503 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: Is any indication yet through the first week of the 504 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: season that I can say, no, this time it's going 505 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: to be different. 506 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 5: They got to show us over a long sample size. 507 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do, And I think that text is spot on. 508 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 6: I mean, that's really kind of what I think at 509 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 6: this point is that it is sort of going to 510 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: be a different a different version of the same. 511 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, when they look good, they look good. When 512 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: they don't look good. 513 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: Everybody's frustrated with with you know, all the guys that 514 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 6: people get frustrated with, fans get frustrated with on on 515 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: a night in, night out basis. So again, that's the 516 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: one thing that I keep coming back to, Greg is 517 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 6: the fact that like I don't think and you know, 518 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 6: we were we were, you know, pretty honest and objective 519 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 6: in our assessment, you know, coming out of the Yankee series, 520 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 6: and it's early and so it's always going to be 521 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: couched as you know, relax and don't panic, and there's 522 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: a lot of season to go, and that that's one 523 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 6: hundred percent true amid to all the you know, need 524 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 6: to have opinions, you know, based on every every game 525 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 6: or or in my case more every series. Is kind 526 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 6: of when I formulate some opinions, I try to stay 527 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 6: away from the the game to game notion of it. Yeah, 528 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 6: but the truth is, man like it. You know, this 529 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 6: team does it. They do look like a different version 530 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 6: of the same, and I'm inclined to like I never 531 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 6: thought they were going to be bad. Is the point 532 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 6: that I'm getting at, Like, I don't think they're going 533 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 6: to be like a seventy five win team or seventy 534 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 6: win team even with the zero and three start. But 535 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 6: are we seeing the fact that you know, yeah, there's 536 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 6: gonna be parts of this team that are better than 537 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 6: last year's team, there's gonna be parts that are worse, 538 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 6: and it's gonna be different parts maybe than we've seen 539 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 6: the last couple of years. But it's gonna all add 540 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 6: up to that that point where you get to the 541 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 6: middle of the year and you're having the discussion, you know, 542 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 6: do you buy do you sell? Is it a year 543 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 6: where you need eighty eight to get in and you're 544 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 6: only gonna win eighty three? Is it a year where 545 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 6: you only need eighty four to get in and you 546 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: right there and so you want to go for it? 547 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: You know all of those things. 548 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 6: Obviously, it's it's far too early to tell as we 549 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 6: sit here on April the third. 550 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: I think it's a good text from a three to 551 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: one where yeah, it's very very early, and maybe as 552 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: the games continue to stack in the series stack, we 553 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 4: will start having indications one way or the other that 554 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 4: it either is a different version of the same or 555 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: maybe this time it is different than that five hundred version. 556 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: A little Niners talk coming up Matt Barrows was at 557 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: the owners meetings in Scottsdale. Kyle Shanahan, Jed York, John 558 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: Lynch all speaking Niners, holding on to Brandon Ayuk, Trent Williams. 559 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 4: Maybe a deal is on the cusp so much we'll 560 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: get into with the athletics Niners. Reporter Barrows joins us 561 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 4: when we come on back on these sports later. 562 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: KNBRB Sports Leader Over Now continues live from the KNBR 563 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots Studios Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots are here. 564 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Where are you just drop in? Please play responsibly one 565 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler. 566 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 5: I good to be with you on this Friday. 567 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: A lot of San Francisco giants to lead the way, 568 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: but we got to check in on your forty nine 569 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: Ers draft is less than three weeks away. We got 570 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 4: into some big names with Krug and Todd Hussack yesterday. 571 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: Perhaps we can play a couple of those soundbites, but 572 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: right now we have got the athletics. Matt Barrows one 573 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: of the absolute best and most trusted on the beat 574 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: when talking about all things red and Golds. He joins 575 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: us on the UMA guest line, what's up, Matt, You 576 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: got silver, you got JD. 577 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: How's it going. 578 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 9: It's going well. Back from Phoenix, where it was a nice, 579 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 9: comfortable one hundred degrees on one of those days in March, 580 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 9: by the way, But things are really nice here in 581 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 9: the Bay Area right now, So no complaints. 582 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were getting a little worried as the Cactus 583 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 4: League was wrapping up for the Giants that some of 584 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: the games they had scheduled for the middle of the 585 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: day we're going to get pushed in tonight. And I'm like, guys, 586 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: it's early March right now, we're talking triple digits already 587 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: in Phoenix. But hopefully you were able to get some 588 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: good information and maybe get a little pool time as well. 589 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, no pool time. You know, I can't just go 590 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 9: straight from winter Skin to Phoenix sunshine. I would just 591 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 9: burn to a crisp if that happened. But yeah, I 592 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 9: think we got some good information, you know, nothing totally juicy, 593 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 9: but a little bit more of what they're thinking about Brandon. 594 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 9: I you where things stand with Trent Williams, some big 595 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 9: ticket items going into the spring portion of the off season. 596 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna ask you, Matt, how does this 597 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 6: sort of compare because it, it seemed and maybe it's 598 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 6: just the nature of social media and and things that 599 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: get clipped and things that that get written about, but 600 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 6: it seemed like this was a more interesting uh owners meeting, uh, 601 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 6: you know, than than than other that I remember other 602 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: owners meetings being from reading and and and and watching 603 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 6: clips about it in the past. 604 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: Where where would you sort of rank it in terms. 605 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 6: Of interesting owners meetings to cover Given some of the 606 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 6: comments from John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, and even Jed York. 607 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was interesting. I mean one of the things 608 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 9: that made it really interesting was that Jed York basically 609 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 9: contradicted John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan when it came to 610 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 9: Brandon Aiyuk, which was you know, Yorke made the suggestion that, yeah, 611 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 9: we we we could keep him on the roster. Uh, 612 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 9: you know, we're paying him all this money, he's a 613 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 9: great player, why not keep him around, which is polar 614 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 9: opposite of what John and Kyle have been saying. And 615 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 9: I think it's all kind of towards the same end 616 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 9: that they want something in return for this guy. So 617 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 9: they've like a draft pick, they've liked something, this this 618 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 9: idea that they've invested so much in Brandon Nyuk, not 619 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 9: just monetarily, but you know all the that we have 620 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 9: that he went through this, that and the other. And 621 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 9: they they don't like the idea that they're just gonna 622 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 9: cut him and kind of let him go wherever he wants. 623 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 9: They feel like they should, you know, for the good 624 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 9: of the team, the pressing to get something back for him. 625 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 10: So I think that. 626 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 9: That explains uh Jed York's comments, if you want this guy, 627 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 9: you have to you have to give us something for him, 628 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 9: and they they really can, you don't. They're not in 629 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 9: any sort of salary cap straits right now. They can 630 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 9: they can keep him sort of in this this limbo, 631 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 9: I think until September one, which is when an option 632 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 9: bonus is due. So if you are a team, let's 633 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 9: just say it's the commanders that has an idea about 634 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 9: adding him to your offense for twenty twenty six, and 635 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 9: you want to get him in the building, and you 636 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 9: want to get him on the practice field, and you 637 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 9: want to get him on the examination table to check 638 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 9: out that knee. You know, if you want to do 639 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 9: that sooner rather than later, and you would think that 640 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 9: they would, then you have to give the forty nine 641 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 9: ers something in return. 642 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: Matt, what do you think about the larger forty nine 643 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: ers free agency approach in terms of the people they 644 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: chose to bring into the building, or, in the case 645 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: of someone like drag Greenlaw bring back into the building. 646 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: I've seen two sides and two different narratives out there 647 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: about the forty nine ers, and one is that they 648 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: need to get younger and not continue to bring back 649 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: older players with a lot of football mileage and an 650 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: injury history. And then there's also the notion that they 651 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: are leaning into their veteran cores in the present, knowing 652 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: that at some point your best players are going to 653 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: have to be closer to the age of Brock Perdy 654 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: and Geameter Leonor and younger rather than your Kittles and 655 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: your Bosas and McCaffrey's and guys that have put a 656 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: little bit more football miles on them. 657 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, some of the guys that they brought in are 658 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 9: in their thirties or are going to be in their 659 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 9: thirties very soon. And that's you know, Mike Evans and 660 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 9: Christian Kirk and so, you know, I think that those 661 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 9: guys are a twenty twenty six duo. You know, a 662 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 9: lot's been written about Mike Evans Steel and how technically 663 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 9: it's a three year deal, but practically it's more like 664 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 9: a one year deal or two year deal. Point being 665 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 9: is that they don't see these guys being part of 666 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 9: the long term plans. 667 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 10: In San Francisco. 668 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 9: So I still think that this team can stand to 669 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 9: add a wide receiver, perhaps early in the draft, deep 670 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 9: draft for that for that position. I thought that maybe 671 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 9: the best you know, acquisition wasn't a free agent signing. 672 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 9: It was the trade for uh ohs A dig Azua. 673 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 9: Just add the veteran presence to that defensive line. They've 674 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: they've got the young guys that they want to see, 675 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 9: you know, continue to improve. He just adds something that 676 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 9: they just they just didn't have going into the offseason, 677 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 9: they haven't had in the last two season, which is 678 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 9: a penetrating defensive tackle guys that's going to create pressures 679 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 9: up the middle. 680 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 10: Uh So, I thought that that was a good one. 681 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 9: It sort of sets them up for the draft. I 682 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 9: think it they they addressed enough holes that you can 683 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 9: see them hitting the remaining ones later this month. 684 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 6: Matt, I want to go back to to Ayuka a 685 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 6: little bit. How how much of the forty nine ers 686 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 6: stand on Ayuk in your mind, is just general pettiness 687 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 6: versus the notion that he has been trying to orchestrate 688 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 6: his way to a particular team in the NFC East 689 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 6: that plays its games in Maryland and has Jaden Daniels 690 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: at quarterback. 691 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 9: I'm trying to decipher who that team might be. 692 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you may have grown up around 693 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: that area. I here I did. 694 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 9: I didn't go to games in Maryland. They were in 695 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 9: the district of Columbia. I was when I was a lad. 696 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean absolutely, I think that that is 697 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 9: something that doesn't sit very well with the forty nine ers, 698 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 9: Just the whole notion that you can be under contract 699 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 9: making millions and millions of dollars and if you're not, 700 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 9: you know, happy, all of a sudden, you just kind 701 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 9: of decide that you make you're gonna quit the team 702 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 9: and go somewhere where you want to go. I don't 703 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 9: think that's anything that any team wants to propagate. And again, 704 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 9: I think the point is that they have the means 705 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 9: to keep him around, they don't have to cut him, 706 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 9: so they they want something in return. And I think 707 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 9: that's it's probably the right I mean, and I get 708 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 9: the I understand the argument that you're you're doing this 709 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 9: out of spite and that it's vindictive, and you're you're 710 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 9: holding onto a guy that you have no plans at 711 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 9: all to you know, have in your locker room on 712 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 9: playing field in twenty twenty six. But they they owe 713 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 9: it to themselves, they owe it to the organization to 714 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 9: get something for him. And even if it's a sort 715 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 9: of a pittance type of thing, you know, next year's draft, 716 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 9: the twenty seven draft, people are already talking about it. 717 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 9: It's it's supposed to be really good, really deep, So 718 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 9: you know, adding let's say it's a sixth rounder, which seems. 719 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 10: Like nothing right now, but it could be something that. 720 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 9: You know, is a factor in twenty twenty seven. So 721 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 9: you know, again, I think they're trying to get something 722 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 9: in return, so that they're not just letting this guy 723 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 9: that they've invested quite a bit in go and sign 724 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 9: wherever he wants. 725 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 4: Talking about Barrows here on the UMA guest line kind 726 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 4: enough to join us at the end of the week. 727 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: So when Papa was in one of the discussions we 728 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 4: had surrounding Mac Jones and whether you would trade him 729 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: or won't was Okay, let's say you trade Mac Jones. Well, 730 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: then who's your Mac Jones going to be? Who's the 731 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 4: new one going to be? Is it going to be 732 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 4: Curtis Rhurt? Could you go and get someone who's a 733 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: free agent out there? And So the reason I bring 734 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: that up is because the big talking point was the 735 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 4: forty nine ers saying they need to lessen Christian McCaffrey's workload. 736 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: But in order to do that, you got to have 737 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: an RB two that you can throw out there and. 738 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 5: Trust at a high usage rate. 739 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 4: So I guess the question is who is the RB 740 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: two that the forty nine ers can routinely throw out 741 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: there to actually follow through on these intentions, and is 742 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: that player currently on the roster? 743 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 9: I think the player currently on the rosters is Jordan James. 744 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 9: I think that he started to impress them as the 745 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 9: year went on. Again, not a lot of rooms for 746 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 9: Jordan James. When Christian McCaffrey is a nineteen game starter, 747 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 9: when Brian Robbinson Jr. Is a nineteen game player, and 748 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 9: they only use two tailbacks a game, So we didn't 749 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 9: get to see that faith that they had in Jordan James, 750 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 9: but the fact that they didn't resign Brian Robinson, they 751 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 9: didn't bring in any veteran runner of note. I know 752 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 9: that they resigned Patrick Taylor Junior, but I don't think 753 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 9: that he surpasses Jordan James on the. 754 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 10: UH in the pecking order. 755 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 9: I think that all kind of points to them believing 756 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 9: in him. Now, you know, ideally you have a a 757 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 9: guy that can do a lot of the things that 758 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 9: Christian McCaffrey can do as your number two, which which 759 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 9: Kyle Shanahan I thought did a good job of explaining 760 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 9: why it's hard to take this guy out of the game. 761 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 9: Off the field, Jordan James isn't that. I don't know, 762 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 9: if you know, outside of Jon Robinson, whether there is 763 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 9: that in the league right now. So you know, for example, 764 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 9: here's some here's some red meat that you guys will 765 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 9: will love. I've heard that they've done a lot of 766 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 9: work with with Mike Washington, the the tailback out of Arkansas, 767 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 9: who's you know, one of the I don't know two 768 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 9: or three best tailbacks in this draft UH. And he's 769 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 9: a guy that a lot of people like, and he's 770 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 9: good at catching backfield big back, you know, has NFL 771 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 9: tailback written all over him. The forty nine ers have 772 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 9: looked at him quite a bit in the run up 773 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 9: to this draft. I don't think that they're going to 774 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 9: take a running back in the first or the second round, 775 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 9: but I mean it's not out of the realm of 776 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 9: possibility that they add yet another young runner to that 777 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 9: mix that's been their mo in recent years. Look at 778 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 9: all the third rounders they've taken. They do not have 779 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 9: a third rounder this year. That would mean that they'd 780 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 9: probably have to use that late second rounder on Mike Washington, 781 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 9: which again I just want to caution I don't think that. 782 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 10: They're going to do, but it was a bit of 783 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 10: a surprise that he was so heavily on their radar. 784 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 4: Well, hey, no, we got to look at some names 785 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: to watch, certainly as we get into the draft. So 786 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 4: we appreciate the red meat, as you labeled it, is 787 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: Jordan James, someone who can thrive in the passing game. 788 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 4: Like when I think about the Robinsons and the Jordan 789 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 4: Masons and some of the other McCaffrey we've seen effective runners, 790 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: but McCaffrey being such a weapon in the past game, 791 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that you can find a McCaffrey two 792 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 4: point zero out there, because they just don't really exist 793 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: outside of you know, maybe someone like Abbie Jean Robinson. 794 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 4: But is Jordan James trusted enough to even do similar 795 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: things in the passing game just to a lesser degree. 796 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 9: I don't know the answer to that. I mean, we 797 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 9: did not get a good look at him in the summer, 798 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 9: and certainly in the in the regular season. I think 799 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 9: that he's capable of it. I think the really talented 800 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 9: pass catcher out of the backfield is Isaac Garrendo. You know, 801 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 9: he used to be a wide receiver. He's got blazing speed. 802 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 9: We saw little glimpses of that in twenty four, No, 803 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 9: twenty five. 804 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 10: I forget what year we are anymore. 805 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 9: His rookie year in twenty four, where he was able 806 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 9: to kind of get down the field and make some 807 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 9: nice catches. The issue you there, he's the superior pass 808 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 9: catcher of the two route runner of the two, But 809 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 9: Jordan James is the superior runner of the two and 810 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 9: runner Trump's pass catcher when it comes to the pecking orders. 811 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 9: So you know, if one guy really excels in the 812 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 9: area in which he's weak. I think that he's the 813 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 9: clear number two to Christian McCaffrey. So I think it 814 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 9: makes for sort of an interesting off season. If Isaac 815 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 9: Grendo can can prove to these coaches something that he 816 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 9: didn't do last year in twenty twenty five, which is 817 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 9: I can be a reliable runner for you, then I 818 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 9: think it's possible that he's the number two going into 819 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 9: the season. 820 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 6: How is the way Matt that the forty nine ers 821 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 6: handled free agency shaped? How you think they now look 822 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 6: to assign their draft board positional? 823 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 3: And have you? 824 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 6: I know you haven't revealed it, but do you have 825 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 6: your draft crush yet? Or did you just reveel it 826 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 6: a couple of minutes ago. 827 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 9: So funny, No, I haven't not yet. It's so funny 828 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 9: that you asked that, because last night I decided, you know, 829 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 9: I had a real epiphany. I said to myself, you 830 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 9: know what, this guy's my draft crush. I'm going with 831 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 9: this guy. And I felt good about it. So it 832 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 9: was a load off my shoulders. I haven't I haven't 833 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 9: come out. It isn't official yet, but it's it's in 834 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 9: the offing. 835 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 10: It's coming, and I think it's a good one. 836 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 4: I can't wait. I mean, look, you don't have to 837 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 4: unload it on us. We'll respect the process here of 838 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 4: your work with the Athletic, but I'm going to be 839 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 4: keeping an eye out. I'm going to be keeping a 840 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: big time eye out for this. 841 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's coming next week. It'll be a big thing. 842 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 9: You know, billboards, you know ABC special, a lot of stuff. 843 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, just don't just make sure John Lynch writes two 844 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 6: initials on a on a card and gives you an 845 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 6: envelope or whatever the whatever. 846 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: That the old, the old Trent Balkey story, right. 847 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, that was gosh, who was that? That was that 848 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 9: wide receiver A J. 849 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 3: Jenkins? 850 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 8: A J. 851 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 9: Jenkins? Yeah, yeah, that name was written in an envelope 852 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 9: well before the. 853 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 6: Draft, Matt we uh and it should have been al 854 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 6: Sean Jeffrey, Right, wasn't that that? 855 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 9: It was AJ Jenkins? A. J. Jenkins was one of 856 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 9: the worst draft picks this team has ever made. 857 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: I forget how this came up on the show the 858 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 4: other week, but I don't remember if it was with 859 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 4: JD or if it was with Kruge. 860 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 5: But we were just going over. 861 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 4: Different gaffs and we brought up hot in twenty twenty three. 862 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 4: The Raiders selected the wrong Byron Young. That's an Alzheimer two. 863 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 9: That's right. But yeah, it's bad for the forty nine 864 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 9: ers too, because they've got Byron Young in their own division. 865 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah right, Matt, thanks so much for checking in with us. 866 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: We'll be keeping an eye out for the draft crush 867 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 4: and let's just hope that John Lynch files all the 868 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 4: picks to the proper intention and that the right bodies 869 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 4: come to Santa Clara here this next year. 870 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 9: Okay, sounds good. 871 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 4: Matt Barrows read him in the Athletic. You can give 872 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 4: a follow at Matt Barrow's keeping it nice and simple there, 873 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: So a nice little check in on the forty nine ers. 874 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 4: We'll do a little recap of this conversation when we 875 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 4: come on back. Andy Baggerly is going to stop by 876 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: before the end of the hour, and Walt's gonna hit 877 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 4: us with a little take it or leave it at 878 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 4: one point thirty before we send our way off into 879 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: a weekend. 880 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 5: And wow, what a busy weekend this is gonna be. 881 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a fun Monday show depending on how 882 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 4: it all shakes out, but certainly a lot to talk about. 883 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 4: It's Papa and silver with jd on the Sports Leader