1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Sunday, I'll look at all things false Athletics, brought to 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: you by Wilson Bank in trust, with locations all over 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: big Orange Country. We are here to get you there. Now, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: your host, former Tennessee defensive coordinator Doug Matthews. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's head up to Knoxville, Tennessee. But first 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: let's do this. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: This segment, who brought to you by Edge Peptide Therapy, 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: will remind you to reclaim your edge called edge Peptide 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Therapy today Jimmy Himes. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: George just says he is going to be doing throughout basketball, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: maybe baseball too, if other things don't get in the way. Jimmy, 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: A pretty good night that We still call it Thompson 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Bowling or is it the Food Center. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Now it's the Food City Center at Thompson Bowling Arena. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: Oh there we go. Okay, I'll probably still refer to 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: it as Thompson Bowling. Knew, I knew both those gentlemen, 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: mister Thompson and mister Bowling. Of course, mister Bowling was 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: President Bowling or see me, I guess he was he president. 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: He's chancellor ready as he was president doctor Bowling. Yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: doctor Bowling. That real quickly on that. Uh, well, I'm 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: not going to spend any time on that. Never mind 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: the difference between the President and the Chancellor and the 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: reporting authority, all that that goes way back to this, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 2: so that out. Uh, let's touch just touched real quickly. 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the National Signing Day, which 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: it's a day that nobody remembers anymore. Right, I'm talking 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: about the spring when back back, this used to be 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: a big, big, big, big time. Boy, you have times 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: changed in that area. 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, when is it? 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday? I think. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: You're right. 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 4: That was such a hectic day because out of covered 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 4: recruiting for many, many years, and it was you were 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: trying to try down twenty twenty five players and our coaches, 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: lining up interviews, doing all this stuff, and then trying 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: to report immediately when they signed with Tennessee, and then 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: Tennessee would send out a release about each one of them. 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: It used to be a seven am to eight or 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: nine pm job on signing day. Now something like that, 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: because much of it is much of the action has 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: been taken away by the early signing period. So you'll 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: have a few that come in that are noteworthy, but 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: very few surprises on National Signing Day. 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if Tennessee will sign anybody the 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: National Signing Day. Maybe they will, I don't know. 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: I think they have an offensive lineman from Catholic. It 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: was the late commitment, a late ad and when the SEC, 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: he basically would have been a preferred walk on. But 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: when the SEC allowed them to go from eighty five 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: scholarships to one hundred and five, he's going to sign. 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: His last name is like George l. But yeah, very few, 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: one or two maybe. 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, Tennessee's has a pretty good offensive lineman from Knox Catholic. 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much whole family's words as a 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: matter of fact. Yeah, that's right, right anyway, All right, 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: let's you want you want to touch on it on 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: the football front. I think I've covered most of that, 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: but I always like to get Jimmy's opinion, because again 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: he's well entrenched up there. Anything you're hearing up there 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: you want to share with us. 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: Well, the one thing that I do want to point out, Look, 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: I'm sure you have I haven't heard everything that you said, 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: But in regard to Jim Knowles, the first year, his 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: team's his defensive hasn't been as good as his second year. 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: But to my knowledge, Doug, this is the first time 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: he's been able to hire his defensive staff. 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: I think that's going to make a huge difference. 69 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: He inherited the staff at Oklahoma State and Ohio State 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: and Penn State, but now he was able to handpick 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: the assistance that he wanted. I think you're exactly right 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: about the reasons he kept Rodney Garner and William end 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: As he thought they were very good coaches. And he's 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: got a player at each level on defense defensive, line, linebacker, 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: and secondary that played for him at Penn State. So 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: I expect more immediate success in his first year than 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: what he had in his previous stop. 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, and he has a fairly low bar he started 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: to work with too, So it's it's going to be 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be more successful. I would hope. I 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: would think for a lot of different reasons. And again 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm I'm i am not a ten 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: Banks bash Basher didn't work out. You know, sometimes sometimes 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 2: things things don't work out, you know, just real quickly. 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: And I talked I mentioned this at the at the 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: end of the first segment, But uh, you know, he 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: brought in three other coaches. I'm not exactly sure how 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: that's all going to work, because I think you can 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: only are allowed to have ten full time coaches and 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: go out and recruit. I know they've changed now you 91 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: can have almost name bank and be out coaching, which 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: is good. But I get off the subject here. Uh 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: let me tell folks this. Uh forget about when they 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: were coaching. But William inge and and Rodney Garner are 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: two of the most respected defensive coaches. You know, we don't. 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: We know a lot about Rodney Garner because he's from 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: down and here we Amene. He was coordinator out at Washington. 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: He is a big time thought of coach. So you know, 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: not only did he bring in talking about coach Knowles 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: bring in three other gentlemen coaches with him. He kept 101 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: those two. He didn't keep those two because he had 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: to or liked him or whatever. He kept them because 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: they are both highly thought of, fundamental coaches. And Jimmy, 104 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: that's that's the thing I've been harping on. If there's 105 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: one thing that I've heard and have watched Jim Knowles do, 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: we will be defensively a much more fundamentally sound defense. Now, 107 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: how good we're going to play, that's that's an indifferent ballpark. 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: But just from doing the fundamentals that you have to 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: be able to do, you don't. You don't get a 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: defense to compete for championships like he has at almost 111 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: every stop without being outstanding in fundamentals. And I will 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: be absolutely shocked if that didn't happen. And you're exactly 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: right about he's brought in coaches now that know the system. 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to teach the system to the coaches. 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: In other words, they know the system. So anyway, all right, 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: any final thoughts on that before. 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: We moved to basketball, Well, just that you hit on 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: the thing about fundamentals. So I think they'll be stronger fundamentally. 119 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: There are two things to put him to the other 120 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: good defense, that's one. The others had the athletes, and 121 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: I think they've done a tremendous job in. 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: The transfer portal of upgrading their talent on defense. 123 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, it all starts. Have they announced I probably should 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: know this. If they've announced it, most time they start 125 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: sometime in March, I think, and go into April. Do 126 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: you have the announced the start of have the announcers started. 127 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they have have the announced started spring 128 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: practice yet. 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: I have not seen an announcement for the start of spring, 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: but my guess is it's going to be around March 131 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: to twenty seven. 132 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: Underwent eight. 133 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And one reason they do that is there's there's 134 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: two ways. And I know going back coach coach Majors 135 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: would change it up depending on his team. Because let's 136 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: say you have a young team or in this instance, 137 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: you have a news strength and conditioning, sometimes you move 138 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: spring practice back or up, whichever w it is further 139 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: into the year to give your conditioning more time to 140 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: get stronger and all those types of things. If you're 141 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: a veteran team, sometimes you move it started earlier because 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: you got a veteran team. And you know a lot 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: of the reasons, I'm sure you don't have to name. 144 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: You know, you got what you got. You got fifteen 145 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: practices in thirty days or something like that. So anyway, 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. Anyway, let's talk about what 147 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: it is. Big deal. Good good win, good good win. 148 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: I didn't watch all of it, watched a bunch of 149 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: it seventy seven sixty nine last night Tennessee I think 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: led from the first first shot right or the second shot. 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: At least they. 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: Lived word wire it was. It's kind of interesting with 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: this team. 154 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: They're talented, and they'll have stretches where they look like 155 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: they're capable of playing in the final four. Then they 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: left stretches where you're scratching your head like what in 157 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: the world you doing. They don't always play with the 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: high basketball like you. And it's funny. And for their 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: last five games, their point guard Jacobe Gillespie has not 160 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: played well. 161 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: He's made some silly mistakes. He's miss free throws. 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: Heck, against Albert, he fouled a three point shooter twice 163 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: and the guy made it and they were full point plays, 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: one in the end of the first half, one at 165 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: the end of the second half. He has not been 166 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: a good closer for Tennessee. You want your point guard 167 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: to be a good closer. But they've overcome that. They 168 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: managed to figure out a way to win, even though 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: they might be sloppy, even though they might miss some 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: free throws later have some turnovers and miss the rebounds, 171 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: they have figured out a way to win. Now they 172 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: didn't have min's free throws down the stretch, against Auburn 173 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: that was a good thing. Heck, they shot over eighty 174 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: per at the foul line, which is outstanding in particular 175 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: for this team. But even though they have some lapses 176 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: and laws trying to close out a game, they still 177 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: get it done. So I got to compliment them on that. 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: But I also wonder if you're playing with fire, if 179 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: you don't play smarter, if you don't avoid the turnovers, 180 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: if you don't avoid foul and three point shooters, if 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: you don't make your free throws, I think you're going 182 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: to lose a couple of games you should Kentucky was 183 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: one of them. 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: They never should have lost that game. 185 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: So they need to finish playing better basketball and with 186 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: a higher basketball like Q, although I think they'll catch 187 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: up with them. 188 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Had four players with at least eight rebounds. Well, I 189 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: think eight rebounds was the most and another one was seven, 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: So pretty good team effort there. You mentioned something that 191 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: made some notes from what you've kind of talked about 192 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: the past. Shows free throws that have certainly been a problem. 193 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: Eighty one percent there a meant by the way, by 194 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: the way, was twelve or fifteen. Let's just talk a 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: little bit about him. One thing I love. I like. 196 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: I don't really listen to many coaches and what they 197 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: have to say, just a few, but I really like 198 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: listening to Rick Barnes because he actually says something. You know, 199 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess he has moments when every coach 200 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: has coach speak. But he's been pretty blunt about a 201 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: few things. Well you mentioned Gillespie, but even the aim 202 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: at kid not getting enough shots last night. Yet he 203 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: took thirty percent of the shots, and he had fifty 204 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: percent of the free throws and of course had a 205 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: big night also. So that's one thing that at least 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: when when when coach Barnes has spoken publicly about it, 207 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: he pretty much said, hey, we got to have this 208 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: young man. He's got to be he's going to shoot more, 209 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: I guess to be the way to put it. 210 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he did. Now, he didn't shoot a very 211 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: good percentage. 212 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: It was four sixteen, but you pointed out twelve or 213 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: fifteen at the foul line. 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, bounds. He drew nine fouls in the twelve out 215 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: of fifteen. 216 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: That's only the second time in the last twenty years 217 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: that Tennessee has had a player make in attempt that many. 218 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: Not for the last twenty years, since twenty nineteen, I'm 219 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: sorry that Tennessee has had a player tempt that many 220 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: free throws and make that many. So he gets to 221 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: the line a lot. He gets to the line about 222 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: as often as anybody in the SEC because he is 223 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: aggressive and he'll take it to the basket. And I 224 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: had felt like after when he carried the team to 225 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: that win against A Texas A and M in overtime, 226 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: I felt like he's turned the corner and he has. 227 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: He's played exceptionally well since then. Not always a great 228 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: percentage from the free from the from the field goal 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: on biel Gos, but his free throw percentage has been 230 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: really good for the most part. And he is finding 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: different ways to affect the outcome of a game, for 232 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: example the eight rebounds we talked about. So he's been 233 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: a terrific player for Tennessee the last five games. 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: Auburn with nineteen turnovers, Tennessee with twelve. Jimmy, what what 235 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: is I don't know if the word's acceptable, but what 236 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: level do you need me? Where do you think? Coach Barnes? 237 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: I know you don't want any but what's an acceptable 238 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: in a competitive game for turnovers? Do you think in 239 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: his view. 240 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, ten, that's what they're looking for. Ten they don't want. 241 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: They want ten or fewer. They actually were in practice. 242 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: It's kind of funny. They had these balloons. They brought 243 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: it practice and for every turnover they would pop the balloon, 244 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: and when they got beyond ten balloons that they pop, 245 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: they ran and then they would do the drill again. 246 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: For the most part, that's work. 247 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: They've had a couple of now they fifteen turnovers too many, 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: but they were able to overcome it. One reason they 249 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: overcame it is because they out rebound at Auburn forty 250 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: six to thirty and had seventeen offensive rebounds. They have 251 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 4: been a tremendous offensive rebounding team, one of the best 252 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: in the nation. This stata is amazing to me. They 253 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: rebound about forty four percent of their misses. That is 254 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: that's a huge number, and. 255 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: That's one reason they were able to overcome the fifteen turnovers. 256 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: But ten is the number they try to limit their turnovers. 257 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: To talk about those guys, I don't know this team really, 258 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: to be honest, I didn't know. They don't know any 259 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Tennessee basketball team real well. But some of the guys. 260 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: It's talked about some of those guys inside that maybe 261 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: not you know, they get almost all, not almost all. 262 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: They are two big scores of course of the guards, 263 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: right two guards, But talk about some of those guys. 264 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: Dwayne Brown, I mean, he had a big night last night. 265 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: Also, Dwayne Brown has turned into arguably their best finisher 266 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: around the rim. And I'm not talking about dogs. He 267 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: was three for five last night. He's shooting over sixty 268 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 4: six percent on the year, that leads the team, and 269 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: he is really They actually thought that they were going 270 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: to rich shirt him and he was just too good 271 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: for that. I noticed Hi when he went five for 272 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: five against Duke in a game in an exhibition game. 273 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: But he also had he was one of those with 274 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: the seven rebounds. Another guy, Jp Ostrella, He is a 275 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: nice offensive player. When Tennessee was struggling, Tennessee had a 276 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes stretch bridging the first and second halfkins Auburn 277 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: doug They only made three field goals, but Ostrella had 278 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: one of those, and he also made some other key 279 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: field goals and was four out of five and had 280 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: eight points. You other Jalen Carries, the other big man. 281 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: He's a Vanderbilt transfer. He scored thirteen points, He had 282 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: eight rebounds. He had eleven points in the first first 283 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: ten minutes or so of the game to help spark 284 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: Tennessee to what ended up being a sixteen point lead 285 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: in the first half at one point so. 286 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: And they also won that game without Felix at Park. 287 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: That was that was a good win to show death 288 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: back part did not play because he had a calf strain. 289 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: I don't know when he's scheduled to return. Tennessee plays 290 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: on Tuesday night. But Brown Estrella and Carrie with the 291 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: main inside players for Tennessee last night, and they did 292 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: a really nice job. 293 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Jimmy, as you know you're well versed in this. I 294 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: got to get a commercial spot out of the way here. 295 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: Can you come back another segment here with another five 296 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: or six minutes? 297 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: Sure? 298 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, Hey, when you come back, I want 299 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: to talk. I want to talk about the plus minus 300 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: and exactly what that means in basketball. 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Now, 323 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: your host, former Tennessee defensive coordinator Doug Matthews. 324 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's do this first. 325 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: This segments brought to you by Double Dogs restaurants in 326 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Gallatin and Hillsborough village between Belmont and Batterybilt. 327 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: Jimmy, Lady Vols in stores, I guess right, have there 328 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: been ear been stores? 329 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: No, have never been there. I know what it's famous for. 330 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: It's famous for Connecticut basketball, women's basketball. So and the 331 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: man are doing pretty good. 332 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Too, I tell you what a lady falls. Of course, 333 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: they played their day Lady Walls fourteen for six and 334 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: one in the Southeastern Conference and this has been a rivalry. Boy, 335 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: if you followed it, the rivalry, I guess when it 336 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: first all started back when in all of women's basketball. 337 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody look forward to this ball game, even 338 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: people that didn't follow women's basketball. Of course, the Pets 339 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: Pet Summit during her great career there. Anyway, give me 340 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: a couple of thoughts on well, not particularly this game, 341 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: but what are you saying from the Lady Vols right now? 342 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: Well, they started the league at six and oh, and 343 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: then they were the last SEC team to lose the game. 344 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: On the women's side, they lost a Mistic State, which 345 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: isn't a very good team. 346 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: That was a shocking defeat for the Lady Balls. 347 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: That was at home, wasn't it it. 348 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: Was at home. Yeah, I mean nobody saw that one coming. 349 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: I saw the beat writer for the Lady Balls with 350 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: the Naxile News Center picked Tennessee to win about fourteen 351 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: or fifteen points, and Tennessee beat him earlier on the 352 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: road on around January the eighth to ninth. But they're 353 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: just as I was talking to somebody real close to 354 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: the program and watching them, they have a very very 355 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: high ceiling, but a low floor. When they're playing at 356 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: their best, they could be just about anybody. But when 357 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: they played poorly, they can lose to a lot of 358 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: teams out there. A year ago, they beat Yukon at 359 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: home and snapped a long losing streak to Yukon. It 360 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: was a huge victory for Kim Calwell in their first year. 361 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: But you know what, Yukon didn't lose a game the 362 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 4: rest of the year and they won the NCAA Championship. 363 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: This Yukon team is every bit as good, and I 364 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: think they've only lost maybe one or two games. This 365 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: is going to be a very difficult challenge for the 366 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 4: Lady Balls, and you know, Yukon remembers what happened last year. 367 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 4: I would be surprised if the lady balls can stay 368 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: with then ten points of yukon. 369 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy, talk a little bit about. Okay, anything else on 370 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: the basketball front you want to hit that we haven't 371 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: talked about. I'm going to get back and finish up 372 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: with a few things on the football end, but any 373 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: men's basketball you want to touch on real quick. 374 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: No, I just think, as we mentioned earlier, they need 375 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: to do a better job of closing things out. But 376 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: they have been resilient. They have figured out ways to win, 377 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 4: so I'll give them credit for that. And as we 378 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: touched on earlier, the fact they shot eighty one percent 379 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: from the free throw line twenty five or thirty one. 380 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: They hit their free throws late in the game. I 381 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: think that's a good sign for this team going forward. 382 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: League wise, give me a couple of two to three 383 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: teams right now that look like they're kind of separating themselves. 384 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 4: I thought Florida was the best team in the league, 385 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: and then Auburn went down there and beat Florida because 386 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: Florida's got the best front line in the league and 387 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: they got really good guard and Hoogie Flann. 388 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: But the team that got to the. 389 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: Weston racords Texas A and m I don't know how 390 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 4: they're doing it. They just beat Georgia by fifteen, and 391 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: Tennessee struggle to beat Georgia. But A and M is 392 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: off to a great start. The Florida's at six and two, 393 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: they have the next best record. They're a handful of 394 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 4: teams that have three defeats in the league, which includes 395 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee and also includes Vandervelt. But I guess I need 396 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: to give A and M the prompt, So I would 397 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: take A and M as Florida right now is the 398 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: two best teams in the SEC. 399 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: A and M still got the same basketball coach. I 400 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: don't even know his name. 401 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: No, Buzz Williams left. He went, I believe Virginia Tech, 402 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 4: and so they've got a different coach whose name escapes me. 403 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 4: I just saw him play the other day. But he's 404 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: the first year guy. They're a well coached team. They 405 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: play together. I don't think they're the most talented team 406 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: in the league, but they played very well together, and 407 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm impressed with what he's done in his first year. 408 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, uh, all right, that's a let's uh, 409 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: let's just hit the athletic parmaru. 410 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: Well. 411 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: I started to kind of show talking about the leadership 412 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: and all those types of things. How important that is. 413 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: Uh? 414 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: In my opinion right now, from the president of the 415 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 2: chancellor to the athletic director, this is a solid and 416 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: strong a group of people. 417 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 418 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's there. There's support staffs are too. 419 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know many of them. Uh, But Jimmy, right now, 420 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 2: tennessee from from from from an from an athletic perspective. Uh, 421 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: and I'm talking about all phases of it, not not 422 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: just on the field, but some pretty good stuff going 423 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: on up on the hill right now. It appears to 424 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: me you're there a lot yeah. 425 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's uh. 426 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: They call themselves and everything's school, which mean today want 427 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: to win or compete in every sport. And not all 428 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: the athletic directors over there have had that mindset, but 429 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: anyway does. And he gives his coaches every resource, every 430 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: opportunity to win. 431 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: He asked them, what do you need to be successful? 432 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: And right now a lot of them need money because 433 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: they've got to go out and buy players. 434 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: That's but they're very good in a lot of sports. 435 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: I did this. 436 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't hold true now, but a year ago, when 437 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: you still had Tony Votello. I would argue that there 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: were six coaches out of the twenty sports on Tennessee's campus, 439 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: six were the best coaches they've ever had in those 440 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: particular sports that included by Tellow and baseball. Your softball 441 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: coaches the best they've ever had, Your swim coaches the 442 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: best ever, your golf coaches best ever. So they've had, 443 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: and I think Rick Barnes and the best have ever 444 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: had on the men's side, So they've got to go in. 445 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: They've hired some really good coaches and they support each other. 446 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: You see football players at basketball games, you see baseball 447 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: players at softball games, and vice versas. So I think 448 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: there's a great camaraderie within the athletic department. 449 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: Right now as well, I'm gonna talk I got to 450 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: get out of here here in a just second, but 451 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: talk to one of the things. And I hesitate to 452 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: even bring it up because I don't want to get 453 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: into discussion on right now. I'm talking about this next week. 454 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: Let me tell you one thing that I hear that 455 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: really kind of raises the hair on the back of 456 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: my neck. You know some people out there talking about 457 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: how you know, college athletes now are all there about 458 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: the money, and they don't. They're not there for education. 459 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: That that is one hundred percent not true, not one 460 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: hundred percent of every individual, A great, great majority of 461 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: athletes that are at the university, see in most of 462 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: the universities for that matter, they want to get an education. 463 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: They're there. They're not just there for money. Probably a 464 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: few are. But uh, anyway, I'm not even going to 465 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to comment on that because I 466 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: got to go. Got bit. Hey, hey, let that let 467 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: that brew a little bit and we'll talk about it 468 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: next week. Okay, okay, sounds good. And you're talking to 469 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: someone who was not a high accommendition in college. 470 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: College. 471 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: I did go, yeah I did. It wasn't because of academics, 472 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: but I did go to junior go because nobody offered 473 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: me a football scholarship. So any and it wasn't big 474 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: enough to play basketball. All right, talk to you later, Jemy. 475 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's take a quick break, and as 476 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: we go to break, just real quickly, I'll talk to 477 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: you about American Home Design fifty percent off, installation twelve months, 478 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: same as cash. 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