WEBVTT - We're All Dan Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>Now broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at

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<v Speaker 1>the George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty. And now. Live from Studio C. Si, senor.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to another live presentation of the Sullivan &amp; Sullivan Show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Dan Sullivan. He's Dan Sullivan. With Traffic, Dan Sullivan.

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<v Speaker 3>Later with the World Series Upstate. Or your sports reporter,

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Sullivan. We're all Dan Sullivan. And today we will

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<v Speaker 3>be bringing you all the information you can possibly stand.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're toiling under the title of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Would the real Dan Sullivan please stand up? Or if

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<v Speaker 3>you prefer, and I'm ashamed of this one. Milwaukee Brews

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<v Speaker 3>Up win for the ages. Just so obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>Brews Up.

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<v Speaker 3>The beer town, the brewers. Just so cloyingly, stupidly mainstream media-y. Yeah, sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I used Milwaukee's best after their last win. I blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>I blew it. That was for today. Not a good beer,

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee's best.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe forget my problems. Serve it cold, because as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as it warms up a little. Yeesh. That was my

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<v Speaker 3>first realization. You know, you're probably drinking too much when

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<v Speaker 3>my rock and roll band would rehearse, and we would

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<v Speaker 3>drink cold Milwaukee's Best, and there would be several left over,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would go the next day, and they would

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<v Speaker 3>be sitting there warm, and I would grab one, pop

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<v Speaker 3>it open, and no, not open.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>No, good lord.

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<v Speaker 4>Not leftover open ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sitting there, and I'd pop one open, drink it

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<v Speaker 3>at room temperature.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what my favorite part of the

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Sullivan story is. Might be that they had bandied

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<v Speaker 4>about the idea of starting. And this is almost all

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff is is perfectly legal. But if somebody asks

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<v Speaker 4>you and you say you didn't do it and get caught,

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<v Speaker 4>you're a liar. So then you got that.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were bandied about the idea of starting a

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<v Speaker 3>MAGA party to confuse people.

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<v Speaker 4>But they gave up on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the Democrats in Alaska we're talking about. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, not just Alaska, because according to the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 4>it went up to the national level of the people

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<v Speaker 4>who run all the Senate campaigns, and the people right

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<v Speaker 4>beneath Schumer were aware of the whole Dan Sullivan trick.

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<v Speaker 4>So it goes up to the national level. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we... Should we deliver a nut graph on this,

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<v Speaker 3>or do you assume everybody's up to speed on it?

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<v Speaker 3>I assume everyone's up to speed on it, yes. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's a safe assumption.

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<v Speaker 4>That there were two Dan Sullivans in Alaska? You don't

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<v Speaker 4>think people knew that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that one. That one, everybody knows. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that the New York Times, the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Times of all places, explosively got to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>it and found out, yeah, it was absolutely a deliberate plot.

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<v Speaker 3>They were recruiting Dan Sullivans for months. They've been lying

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<v Speaker 3>about it the entire time. It's just ridiculous. Not illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>Not illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>You just got caught lying. So is that going to damage?

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<v Speaker 4>Does that bother people, I wonder?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it will. Absolutely it will.

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<v Speaker 4>It should. She's still denying she had anything to do

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<v Speaker 4>with it, which is pathetic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it'll do damage because she's an absolute lying liar.

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<v Speaker 3>Mary Patolta. The angle I find funny is, like I

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<v Speaker 3>just heard it on NPR, people reporting this is like,

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<v Speaker 3>There were two Dan Sullivan's on the ballot and one

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<v Speaker 3>of them wasn't serious. See, that's that's the part.

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<v Speaker 4>That drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched Face the Nation on Sunday where Margaret Brennan

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<v Speaker 3>had the attorney general on there and he was fighting

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<v Speaker 3>this whole Dan Sullivan battle in Alaska. And she kept saying, look,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no evidence that the other Dan Sullivan is not

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<v Speaker 3>legitimately running.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like, what?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 4>So all these media outlets acting like this is news

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<v Speaker 4>that the other Dan Sullivan was a charade.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it was. It's just, you know, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>was orchestrated by the candidate or not is the only question.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it was phony. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 3>can watch those shows without going insane. I mean, suggest

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<v Speaker 3>that there's no evidence. I mean, I can barely restrain

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<v Speaker 3>myself from, like, firing F-bombs around. The guy's a lifelong

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat with no political involvement or experience than happens to

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<v Speaker 3>decide to run for the Senate against a guy with

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<v Speaker 3>the same name and even, Margaret, you lying bitch. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll stand by it unless it was that other lying bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I got the wrong one. Sorry. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>fired up here.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie, we need to hold hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get fired up. We are fired up.

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<v Speaker 4>We're both scared. We need to comfort each other. This

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<v Speaker 4>is not a safe space.

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<v Speaker 3>You're kneeling, you little weasel.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly right. This is not a safe space. I feel unsafe.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling triggered.

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<v Speaker 3>So listen, but it's worse than that. The guy actually

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<v Speaker 3>applied to the election commission in Alaska to be listed

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<v Speaker 3>as Dan S. Sullivan, the exact name of the incumbent.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though his middle freaking name starts with a J.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no evidence that this. I would never raise my

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<v Speaker 3>hand to a woman, but I might hire a woman

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<v Speaker 3>to do it for me. Katie, what are you doing

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<v Speaker 3>this afternoon? Free as a bird.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I give you $ 10 to go slap this woman?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'd do it for free. That would be abhorrent.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never do that, but here's a tenner. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other part of it is he hasn't campaigned

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<v Speaker 3>at all. So, I mean, it's not like he's out

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<v Speaker 3>there on the trail making it look like he's a candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no evidence that he, oh my God. Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Sullivan must be a common name everywhere or just in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what, but they found a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Sullivan's in a very tiny state and they only

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<v Speaker 4>convinced one to actually run. And he's in a really

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<v Speaker 4>isolated village where you got to like take a plane

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<v Speaker 4>and then ride a whale. And I mean, there's all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of stuff you got to do.

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<v Speaker 3>To get there.

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<v Speaker 4>And they talked to me, Trump so much, he is

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<v Speaker 4>willing to run all the way. Like, again, he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't actually have a campaign and he's not out there

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<v Speaker 4>pretending to run.

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<v Speaker 3>Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?

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<v Speaker 4>The other interesting part of that New York Times article

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<v Speaker 4>was the fact that the former campaign manager is the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest source of this whole story. So this Patola woman

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<v Speaker 4>apparently is really brutal on her staff and lots of

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<v Speaker 4>people quit or she fires them.

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<v Speaker 3>She gets explosive like Joe just did. So this guy quit,

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<v Speaker 3>the campaign manager. He goes to the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 3>tells this story. Then at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, I'd like to retract all this stuff. He

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<v Speaker 3>got cold feet. He's a good chicken out. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, but sometimes women have jobs, too, Jack. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's funny, I just assumed it was a man.

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<v Speaker 3>But the campaign manager chickened out, and New York Times said,

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<v Speaker 3>too late, sorry. I mean, you already told us. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to retract everything I said to you, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not a thing. As the kids say these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Because God knows what old Peltola threatened her with. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a sort of Alaskan frontier justice. Skin her like a seal,

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<v Speaker 3>God knows. Tie her to a post and let the

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<v Speaker 3>polar bears have at her. God knows. Who knows what

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<v Speaker 3>this woman's capable of?

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<v Speaker 4>Trafficking in some Alaska stereotypes, though we're on two stations

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<v Speaker 4>in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 3>We are, and honored to be on both Fairbanks and Anchorage.

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<v Speaker 3>And shout out to folks in the stunningly, amazingly beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>state of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>I was kind of interested.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and thanks for the oil. Yes, sorry, you were saying?

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<v Speaker 4>I was kind of interested in how many people were

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<v Speaker 4>going to vote for the other Dan Sullivan. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>that might be a good test, because we're always asking

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<v Speaker 4>how many people who vote, you know, the elections are

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<v Speaker 4>controlled by the numbnuts who barely pay attention. All the

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<v Speaker 4>time and effort you put into watching cable news, reading articles,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is, reading the guidebook and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>The people that decide who actually wins or loses in

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<v Speaker 4>close election, they have no idea what's going on. Those

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<v Speaker 4>are the people that make the decision for all of us.

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<v Speaker 4>on our government and i thought this would be a

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<v Speaker 4>good test of what the percentage actually is how many

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<v Speaker 4>people voted for the other dan sullivan because they're completely

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<v Speaker 4>unaware of this story even with all the attention it's

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<v Speaker 4>gotten i can't imagine how much attention it's getting in

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<v Speaker 4>alaska but i'm sure there was going to be single

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<v Speaker 4>digits three to nine percent of people who are completely

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<v Speaker 4>unaware the whole dan sullivan ruse and picked the wrong

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<v Speaker 4>one Oh, yeah, absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>And in a close election, this one seemed like it

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be and may still be. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>would be more than enough to turn the tide. It's

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<v Speaker 3>worth mentioning that Alaska is one of the few states

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<v Speaker 3>that has ranked choice voting, which struck me as a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea when I first heard about it. But I

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<v Speaker 3>guess it's a logistical nightmare and confuses people and just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work the way it ought to. Partly because voters

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<v Speaker 3>can't spend 10 minutes to familiarize themselves with it. But

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<v Speaker 3>the fake Dan Sullivan, the fraud Dan Sullivan... He got,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe, 2.1% of the vote in the first super

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<v Speaker 3>big go-round, the primary go-round. That was enough to get

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<v Speaker 3>him on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>Kim Strassel of the Wall Street Journal, she's from Alaska,

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<v Speaker 4>and wrote a piece today on how Alaskans, we need

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<v Speaker 4>to ditch the ranchos voiding. I understand why people thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was a good idea. I used to think it

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<v Speaker 4>was a good idea when I'd hear about it, but

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<v Speaker 4>it clearly does not work out that well in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting nugget, we'll have to find the audio on this, is, uh, Patella, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat, the woman. uh running uh behind this ruse and

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<v Speaker 3>lying about it the whole time blasting the new york

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<v Speaker 3>times the new york times doesn't know anything about affordability

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<v Speaker 3>in alaska they don't know what we're paying for groceries

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<v Speaker 3>and so the new york times the evil new york

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<v Speaker 3>times you know how they hold back democrats all across

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<v Speaker 3>america you know how that is I wish, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>wish I could reach into every American home. Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to slap her too? No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not yet anyway. Although, where do I start? Okay, reaching

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<v Speaker 3>into every American home. And tell them, but groceries is

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<v Speaker 3>not a good counter argument to you ran a fraud candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not a good counter argument to I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to impose or you want to impose Sharia law on

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<v Speaker 3>America and turn it into, you know, an outpost of ISIS. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but groceries. That's not a good argument. We know groceries.

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<v Speaker 3>We know inflation has happened. We hate it. Everybody hates it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not a good argument. Secondly, back to whether

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<v Speaker 3>it was Margaret Benin or that other insufferable woman, as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm reminding myself of some of the particulars of this,

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<v Speaker 3>the decoy Dan, as they're calling him, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good nickname. There's no evidence that he was not sincere.

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<v Speaker 3>His campaign website hasn't been updated for six weeks. It

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<v Speaker 3>includes like two pictures and a blog post. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ridiculous. Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 4>MAGA party would have been a pretty good way to

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<v Speaker 4>confuse people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would have drawn some votes.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder why they backed off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Thought it was too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that makes more sense than finding another guy

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<v Speaker 4>with the same name and pretending it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>I was chatting with some friends and acquaintances last night

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<v Speaker 3>at a lovely, lovely presentation for Halloween week about Edgar

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<v Speaker 3>Allan Poe. It was absolutely fascinating. Anyway, we agreed that

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<v Speaker 3>this seems to be a low point in American politics. But,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, let's just anybody who says, boy, this is

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<v Speaker 3>as bad as it's going to get is just a fool.

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<v Speaker 3>The trend line is unmistakable.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start the show officially before we get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>How did it already get to be Thursday, October 29th,

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<v Speaker 4>the year 2026? We're Armstrong and getting we approve of

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<v Speaker 4>this program. Let's begin officially then, according to FCC rules

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<v Speaker 4>and regs at Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>2-1 pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Palacios.

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<v Speaker 3>Ground ball, second base. Terang has it. Goes to first. Unshakable.

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<v Speaker 5>Unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 2>And champions at last.

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<v Speaker 3>The wait is over.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brewers have won the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so great.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a dang good team. I wish you could put

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<v Speaker 4>them up against other, like... you know, single year, everything

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<v Speaker 4>came together teams and to see how they would do,

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<v Speaker 4>because that is a good team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Super happy for the people in Milwaukee. That's

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<v Speaker 3>just great. They're such great sports fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like they won at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Wisconsin, you know, just the Wisconsin. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Katie's headlines on the way. The economic news

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<v Speaker 4>for the economy growing just came out. So this looks

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<v Speaker 4>like they're calling it brisk growth. In some reports, that'd

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<v Speaker 4>be good news for the Republicans in the final days

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<v Speaker 4>of the election. See, the economy's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Ignore gas prices. Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Fake Dan Sullivan? We've got a lot on the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay here.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Rise and shine, give them time. Tola up in Alaska

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<v Speaker 3>actually said that the New York Times just wrote this

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<v Speaker 3>to get subscriptions and sell newspapers. That's hilarious. That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>The New York Times famously biased against Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, boy. Michael was just going through email to

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<v Speaker 3>prepare a mailbag. I have two words for you. See

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<v Speaker 3>if you can decode this. Alvin Green. We have not

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<v Speaker 3>heard from Alvin this season, and it's long overdue. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Green. Katie, get it.

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<v Speaker 6>All righty, the Alphabet Networks, ABC, NBC, and CNN all

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<v Speaker 6>sticking with the Alaska governor ordering a probe into the

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<v Speaker 6>effort to confuse Senate voters.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, she's going to get to the bottom of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, she is.

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<v Speaker 6>Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal, U.S.

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<v Speaker 6>Economy picked up speed with GDP growth at 3.4% in

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<v Speaker 6>the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know why that's good news? Because it beat expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? They never give you a paragraph

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<v Speaker 3>on that because they just know we all understand the

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<v Speaker 3>whole expectations game when it comes to economic things. Makes

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<v Speaker 3>me so angry. And or, and I like mine better,

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<v Speaker 3>the major media, most media is utterly incurious. They just

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<v Speaker 3>repeat what they think they're supposed to repeat and go

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<v Speaker 3>about their days. They don't investigate. They don't learn. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't communicate. They're terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this was silly.

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<v Speaker 2>CBS News.

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<v Speaker 6>Ted Cruz calls Abdul El-Sayed the jihadist leprechaun.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he short?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that. How tall is he?

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<v Speaker 4>He's a little guy.

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<v Speaker 3>How little is he? Like 4'6? 5'8-ish, I think. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't have him in the Senate. Certainly not. Jihadist leprechaun?

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<v Speaker 3>Who called him that? Ted Cruz. Oh, he did? Wow. Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Jihadist leprechaun is pretty funny. And Barack Obama gave a

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<v Speaker 3>speech last night saying the Republicans are unserious people.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you get off? All the comedy comes from

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<v Speaker 4>our side.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on. Yahoo Sports.

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<v Speaker 6>World Series 2026. Brewers beat the Rays in Game 5

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<v Speaker 6>to win first title in franchise's 57-year history.

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<v Speaker 4>How about that unpronounceable name pitcher they got, Miziorowski? Good grief. 6'7,

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<v Speaker 4>looks like he's a high school kid. Throws 103 mile-per-hour fastballs.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember setting the gun to 90 miles per hour

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<v Speaker 3>in a batting cage when I was playing high school

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<v Speaker 3>baseball and watching that ball shoot by you like a bullet, thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>that's impossible. Now 100, 103, 104. Yikes. New York Times,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'm sorry, New York Post.

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<v Speaker 6>Diabetic Aeromexico passenger fumes as he's denied boarding flight with

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<v Speaker 6>his Great Dane service dog.

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<v Speaker 4>His service dog is a Great Dane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. That's pushing the bounds there, Pedro.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't bring a pony on the plane.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Study finds doctors may be losing skills to AI without

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<v Speaker 6>even realizing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So, wow. People's writing ability, math ability is declining with AI. Doctors'

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<v Speaker 4>ability to.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, that's rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's universal.

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<v Speaker 6>And finally, the Babylon Bee. Zombie at Halloween party? Turns

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<v Speaker 6>out to just be Mitch McConnell.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow. He's an elderly man. Why'd he come in

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<v Speaker 3>for a kicking? Another joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Zombie leprechaun, jihadist leprechauns, zombie oldsters.

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<v Speaker 3>None of this. Raise the rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. When we come back, we'll raise the rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>This week, presidential elections were held in Israel. And so far,

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<v Speaker 3>there is no clear winner. Netanyahu is asking all members

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<v Speaker 3>of Hezbollah to wait by their pagers for the results.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>We can talk a little bit about the Israeli election

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<v Speaker 4>coming up a little bit later. But a personal story

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<v Speaker 4>for those of us here at the radio station. It

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<v Speaker 4>was just announced there is no water in the building.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was on my way to get water in

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<v Speaker 4>my water bottle as I'm extraordinarily thirsty. And there is

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<v Speaker 4>zero water. other than what's in the toilet bowl currently.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're not going to be able to flush the toilet.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I drink out of the toilet?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that unbecoming? But there's zero water anywhere of any kind.

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<v Speaker 3>So living out in the country, when the water gets

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<v Speaker 3>shut off, the whole toilet situation becomes a problem very quickly. Sure, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm extraordinarily thirsty also. I'm really, really thirsty. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just door dashed. a case of water, which will

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<v Speaker 4>be here.

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<v Speaker 3>In just a few minutes. And I thought, while I'm

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<v Speaker 3>door-dashing water, might as well get donuts. So a box

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<v Speaker 3>of donuts is coming with water. But, yeah. Let's do

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<v Speaker 3>the math again.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually very thirsty.

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<v Speaker 5>Very.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's no water anywhere in the building. This has

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<v Speaker 4>got to be some sort of OSHA thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would think so. The water jug is not.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a line, isn't it? It's not a jug.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they've got a line that goes into the fridge now.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing's working.

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<v Speaker 3>There's zero water. Oh, so lawsuits or something. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is this is terrible. Power will probably

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<v Speaker 3>go out. Is it breezy?

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<v Speaker 4>So we have a new term for this thing that

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about a few times, but it is growing

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<v Speaker 4>as a problem. Katie just brought it to us in

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<v Speaker 4>a headline. It is called de-skilling.

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<v Speaker 3>A.I.

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<v Speaker 4>De-skilling is the term that we're all going to settle upon, apparently.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked some about people losing their ability to write

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<v Speaker 4>or do math. I've mentioned several times that I have

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<v Speaker 4>PhD professor friends who say they've lost their ability to

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<v Speaker 4>write and they can see it in their stupidity. that

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<v Speaker 4>they're losing their abilities from ai which.

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<v Speaker 3>I got keeping in mind the baseline we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>you know current college students it's it sounds crazy to

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<v Speaker 3>me i mean because it doesn't seem like you could

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<v Speaker 3>possibly lose your skills that quickly but enough people are

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<v Speaker 3>saying it that i guess it's true it just it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't seem like you'd atrophy that fast does it you

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<v Speaker 3>use ai a few times to do math and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden three and two i have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>i mean how does anybody's guess i.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how does that happen so fast after a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime of doing math in your head uh but But

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my example of driving that I think is underreported.

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<v Speaker 4>I always like to say this because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>be on the cutting edge of the first person who

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<v Speaker 4>ever said this. I believe my motorcycle wreck was caused

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<v Speaker 4>by my self-driving car.

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<v Speaker 3>100% believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that when I get into my regular F-250

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<v Speaker 4>that I have to drive myself. I got to force

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<v Speaker 4>myself to pay attention because I've trained myself that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you can just look around or look at your phone

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever from doing it every single day in my

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<v Speaker 4>cyber truck. That skill is deteriorated. I know it has.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's why I wrecked my motorcycle, which

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<v Speaker 4>is horrible. But so this latest one about doctors, A.I.

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<v Speaker 4>de-skilling a story is out today, for instance. a 21%

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<v Speaker 4>decline in detection rates of precancerous growth from before using

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<v Speaker 4>AI to now, self-reported by the doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>21%? Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like, I don't know, I'm not as good at

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<v Speaker 4>identifying anymore because I've been using AI to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So isn't that amazing? And that amount of time, again,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems unbelievable to me like I can't believe it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>How long have they been doing that, just out of curiosity?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you keep bringing up in this amount of time,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know the amount of time.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't be very long. AI hasn't been around that long.

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't inexperienced physicians either. The average approximated 27 years

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<v Speaker 4>on the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>Of being a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other part of this whole AI de-skilling thing,

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<v Speaker 4>which might be one of the biggest topics in the

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<v Speaker 4>world before you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that....

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<v Speaker 4>People don't realize their abilities are deteriorating necessarily, which it's

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<v Speaker 4>funny because like I said, I've got friends who are self-reporting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm self-reporting about my driving skills, right? Uh, this could

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<v Speaker 4>end up being a big topic. If you know, it's,

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<v Speaker 4>it's possible. I suppose there's a pretty high floor on this,

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<v Speaker 4>that your skills deteriorate a little, but don't go any farther.

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<v Speaker 4>But if that's not true, If they deteriorate this fast

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not a floor, are we all just like

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<v Speaker 4>completely unable to drive, do our jobs, feed ourselves within

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<v Speaker 4>a year?

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<v Speaker 3>Walk around like slobbering morons. Because of AI? Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I am so freaking thirsty. Sorry, I got distracted. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>do you not have water at home? Do you not

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<v Speaker 3>drink water when you get up in the morning? I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't drink like an hour and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I need more water.

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<v Speaker 3>This is unprecedented. It's horrifying. Anyway, yeah, it depends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>skill to skill to skill. Some are much more important

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<v Speaker 3>than others, and I'd imagine some deteriorate much more quickly

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<v Speaker 3>than others. I don't know. This seems like a terrible idea,

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<v Speaker 3>this experiment we're running on humanity. It seems ill-advised. Can

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<v Speaker 3>we abort it? I was just reading about the infamous

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<v Speaker 3>Stanford prison experiment, which Netflix is recreating with a twist

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<v Speaker 3>for your entertainment. And they aborted that infamous experiment because

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<v Speaker 3>it got too crazy and too ugly. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>whole AI experiment, same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael just handed me a bottle of water. Where did

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<v Speaker 4>you find this, Michael?

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<v Speaker 3>I brought some extra.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, do you have some?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have some.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't give me your own light water and then you die.

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<v Speaker 4>Although my name is on the show and you dying

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<v Speaker 4>for the show would be kind of like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Saving private Ryan. It would be a beautiful sacrifice. We

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<v Speaker 3>would donate like that half of the studio to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We would name it after you. Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 6>This is like we're going to need a volleyball named

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<v Speaker 6>Wilson here in a second.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you're trapped on an island.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. Isn't this?

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have a vending machine. We used to have

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<v Speaker 4>a vending machine, but after they remodeled.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no food or water. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all going to die.

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<v Speaker 3>Anson, is that the one you filled from the toilet?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, OK. So that's why it's so cold.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's out of the stall that that construction worker

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<v Speaker 6>always goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Urinal or toilet? Well, it would take forever to fill

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<v Speaker 3>it in the urinal, so they just dipped it right

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<v Speaker 3>under the bubble for a minute.

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<v Speaker 6>Right in the bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God. The universal solvent. Thank God. Thank you, Michael.

0:24:37.700 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 3>You're welcome. Wow. The humble hydrogen atom, the humble oxygen atom,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.150
<v Speaker 3>when they come together, it's a beautiful thing. That high-quality H2O. Yeah.

0:24:48.990 --> 0:24:51.869
<v Speaker 4>It's a throuple. There's two hydrogen, one oxygen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there is. Where were we? My skills have deteriorated. Oh, yeah. And,

0:24:59.250 --> 0:25:01.450
<v Speaker 3>you know, frankly, there weren't much to begin with.

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<v Speaker 4>I started very low.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>AI de-skilling, you know, it's here to stay. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was reading yesterday with a couple of my favorite political pundits.

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<v Speaker 4>They say AI is going to be among the biggest,

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<v Speaker 4>if not the biggest issue for the 28 presidential election

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<v Speaker 4>because it. Just a little late getting to this one,

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<v Speaker 4>even though data centers have been huge. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all the college students booing at their graduations. We got

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<v Speaker 4>another two years of AI ramping up in our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Deskilling. People losing jobs. Microsoft announcing the 60,000 people they're

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<v Speaker 4>offering a buyout to. And as Joe said the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>if they don't take it, they're going to be told, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we gave you a chance. Now you're gone. All about AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I have two thoughts I'd like to share.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 3>If only we had a clip that was about AI

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<v Speaker 3>that's almost certainly the clip of the year that could

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<v Speaker 3>have been played 15 times. What the f * * *

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<v Speaker 3>type of AI s * * * is this? And

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<v Speaker 3>my second thought is, yeah, I will occasionally do string

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<v Speaker 3>arrangements for musical works. And it's a challenging thing to

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<v Speaker 3>get it just right. But I've been using AI. I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>give me the, what should the cello part be?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Really? Just to save time. Yeah. Because music theory was

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<v Speaker 3>a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to save time and destroy.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything that is art. Well, yes, that too. Two birds.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've wrestled with this because I took music theory

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<v Speaker 3>a long time ago. And I'm like, I've got this,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got it like a diminished chord or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want the string and I wanted the, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to get this

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<v Speaker 3>wrong 11 times before I get it right. Or I

0:26:44.890 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 3>could just ask chat GPT. Right. And the problem with

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.700
<v Speaker 3>that is... And I can feel myself getting worse at

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem is that's not a tool that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>help you learn. It is now known it is a

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<v Speaker 4>tool that goes the other direction.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You de-learn, de-skill. Oh boy. Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you, it's one of the reasons that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like really diving into difficult literature and trying to read

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<v Speaker 4>every night for quite a bit is I just, I

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<v Speaker 4>worry about this, what this is doing to everybody's brain,

0:27:14.869 --> 0:27:17.189
<v Speaker 4>my brain, everything like that. So I'm trying to go

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<v Speaker 4>the other direction, old school, long, deep literature to keep

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<v Speaker 4>my brain alive.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to watch more serious TikTok videos for the

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 3>same reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Less, less dancing, more sitting in my car, ranting about

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<v Speaker 4>political stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. You know, I think, I think, and this sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like the sort of conceit that every generation has. I

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<v Speaker 3>think those of us who are doing some quick math,

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<v Speaker 3>which I can apparently still do a little bit, those

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<v Speaker 3>of us who are like 40 plus witness the peak

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<v Speaker 3>of humankind.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in a post-reading world. Everybody

0:27:57.230 --> 0:28:00.950
<v Speaker 4>knows that. The post-literacy. So, yeah, the peak of literacy

0:28:01.330 --> 0:28:03.370
<v Speaker 4>was whenever it was several years back.

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<v Speaker 3>Intelligence, physical health. I mean, it's all added together here

0:28:08.950 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 3>because AI, if AI cures cancer, obviously, physical health, that's

0:28:12.890 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 3>going to be like super great. But if you combine

0:28:15.300 --> 0:28:17.100
<v Speaker 3>all of it, like an overall score, the way you

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.340
<v Speaker 3>would pick Miss America, for instance, both the swimsuit and

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<v Speaker 3>the scholarship.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:21.780
<v Speaker 4>Great example.

0:28:22.260 --> 0:28:26.530
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. All combined, I think it was probably around 1996.

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:28:30.109 --> 0:28:33.619
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, speaking of health, how about your dog's health? We

0:28:33.660 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 3>love our dogs. We want them to be happy and healthy, right?

0:28:35.780 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 3>For just $ 14, Rough Greens will send you a 14-day

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<v Speaker 3>supply of Rough Greens VitaSmart. Put it on your dog's food.

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<v Speaker 3>Your dog will wolf it down. And then take a look.

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<v Speaker 3>You see in that shinier coat, more energy, more enthusiasm,

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.220
<v Speaker 3>more of the dog you fell in love with. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the Rough Greens VitaSmart Challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, again, my skills continue to deteriorate. Get the 14-day

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<v Speaker 4>supply of Rough Greens VitaSmart for just $ 14 with free

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<v Speaker 4>shipping right now. How awesome is that? 14 days, $ 14.

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<v Speaker 4>by going to roughgreens.com. R-U-F-F, greens.com. Use that promo code Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the promo code Armstrong for your 14-day supply for

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<v Speaker 3>just $ 14. Rough Greens makes any dog food better. Is

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<v Speaker 3>there anybody....

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<v Speaker 4>Waving the white flag of surrender or anything like that

0:29:28.340 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 4>as these studies come out good now it's doctors whose

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:37.850
<v Speaker 4>skills are deteriorating studies show is anybody going to say

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<v Speaker 4>wait a second before this goes.

0:29:41.020 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Too far, should we have a conversation about blah, blah, blah?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure there's any stopping the train. Especially if

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<v Speaker 3>the net is more cancers are diagnosed because these doctors

0:29:54.530 --> 0:29:59.820
<v Speaker 3>who are increasingly just slobbering morons, apparently. They're using the AI,

0:29:59.860 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>but they're ultimately diagnosing more.

0:30:03.620 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 4>If you correctly diagnose a little thing on my skin,

0:30:06.420 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't care if a doctor did it or if

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.260
<v Speaker 4>a chatbot did it. I just want it correctly diagnosed.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I'd kept this one article around because it

0:30:13.340 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>was so good at explaining this. My fear is not

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<v Speaker 3>so much the short term as it is the mid

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.500
<v Speaker 3>and long term. Because pretty soon you will have no

0:30:20.540 --> 0:30:23.380
<v Speaker 3>doctors who are very good at it, and we will

0:30:23.420 --> 0:30:26.610
<v Speaker 3>be entirely dependent on the technology. And if there are

0:30:26.650 --> 0:30:29.710
<v Speaker 3>problems with the technology or, you know, you can imagine

0:30:29.730 --> 0:30:32.370
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of different scenarios, there will be no human

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<v Speaker 3>beings to straighten it out because nobody will know how.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what the mathematician said the other day on that

0:30:37.890 --> 0:30:41.050
<v Speaker 4>podcast I was listening to. Nobody will be taking math anymore,

0:30:41.070 --> 0:30:42.850
<v Speaker 4>so there won't be anybody to, like, come up with

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<v Speaker 4>new problems for AI to, like, work on or anything

0:30:45.990 --> 0:30:48.170
<v Speaker 4>like that or– in a way that they think humans

0:30:48.230 --> 0:30:51.090
<v Speaker 4>can think and AI can't creatively, at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least so far. Well, and final thought, how this intersects

0:30:58.020 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>with governance scares the hell out of me. But that's

0:31:01.300 --> 0:31:03.150
<v Speaker 3>a book-length topic for another time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this de-skilling thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what an interesting problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Has that happened with you or in your industry? Text

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<v Speaker 4>line 415-295-KFTC. What the f * * * type of

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<v Speaker 4>AI s * * * is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times broke that Alaska story yesterday. We'll have

0:31:33.890 --> 0:31:35.530
<v Speaker 4>to talk more about that. New York Times with a

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>new breaking story that Huang, the guy that runs the

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>most valuable company in the world, had a close relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with an attractive Chinese woman. Turns out she's a spy

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 4>and has been passing intelligence to the Chinese Communist Party.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.010
<v Speaker 3>The classic honeypot.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my gosh. More on that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's your freedom-loving quote of the day. Continuing our series

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<v Speaker 3>on elections, which, if there is a God, will be

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<v Speaker 3>over soon. Larry Sabato. Is it Sabato or Sabato? I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember. He's on Bread Bear semi-frequently. He's a professor,

0:32:08.340 --> 0:32:11.140
<v Speaker 3>a political expert. I love this. It's so simple and

0:32:11.180 --> 0:32:14.550
<v Speaker 3>so true. And I'd ask you all to bear this

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<v Speaker 3>in mind. Every election is determined by the people who

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<v Speaker 3>show up.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a pretty good saying.

0:32:23.250 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's worth reminding yourself. All the bluster and hot air.

0:32:28.050 --> 0:32:30.530
<v Speaker 3>Who shows up on voting day or voting month or

0:32:30.590 --> 0:32:36.740
<v Speaker 3>voting ballot mail out season? Mailbag. Drop us a note.

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<v Speaker 3>Mailbag at Armstrong and Getty dot com. Lovely note from Heather.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an elementary school teacher at a small private school

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<v Speaker 3>and my classroom theme this year is a tribute to

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<v Speaker 3>our 250th. is Land That I Love, red, white, and blue.

0:32:50.590 --> 0:32:53.370
<v Speaker 3>Our flag, pictures of our founding fathers, all things American

0:32:53.430 --> 0:32:56.510
<v Speaker 3>are strewn all over the classroom. Love it, love it,

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<v Speaker 3>love it, Heather.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I sure hope you have a land acknowledgement.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God. I'd like to do a land acknowledgement.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>It's mine now, bitches. That's my acknowledgement.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a small whiteboard that I've reserved for freedom-loving quotes.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Inspired by the Armstrong and Getty Show that she changes

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.780
<v Speaker 3>weekly and wonders if I have a super secret resource

0:33:18.860 --> 0:33:21.980
<v Speaker 3>I can share where to find more. I've got books

0:33:22.060 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>in the internet, Heather. That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, that should be all land acknowledgements. It's mine now, bitches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes. Would you like me to put my hand

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<v Speaker 3>over my heart when I say that? I'd be delighted. Whatever.

0:33:35.450 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Turn toward the flag. John from Kansas says, guys, there's

0:33:40.100 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>an acronym that is very well known in the prepper

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<v Speaker 3>community for the end of the world as we know it.

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.810
<v Speaker 3>We were just going to go with end of the world, E-O-W.

0:33:51.170 --> 0:33:55.190
<v Speaker 3>But he suggests Teotihuacan, the end of the world as

0:33:55.210 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 3>we know it, Teotihuacan. And he makes a terrible joke about,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>Good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>John from Kansas, thank you for the information, though. Let's see.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:13.430
<v Speaker 3>Here's who is this R? First initial R on the

0:34:13.510 --> 0:34:16.690
<v Speaker 3>topic of Dunning and Kruger. They stole my idea. He says,

0:34:17.390 --> 0:34:19.750
<v Speaker 3>I should have pursued a Ph.D. and copyrighted this while

0:34:19.810 --> 0:34:21.850
<v Speaker 3>in college in the 70s. I conceived what I called

0:34:21.890 --> 0:34:24.859
<v Speaker 3>my N curve, my know it all curve, which resembles

0:34:24.890 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 3>the Dunning Kruger effect. After one class in a subject,

0:34:28.580 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I found myself thinking. I know a lot of this.

0:34:31.020 --> 0:34:32.739
<v Speaker 3>Then I'd take the next class. Oh, my God, I

0:34:32.780 --> 0:34:34.980
<v Speaker 3>know nothing. Of course, I really knew more, but I

0:34:34.980 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 3>had greater insight to what I didn't know. Previously, I

0:34:37.940 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 3>was puzzled and often intimidated by know-it-alls who weren't even close, e.g.,

0:34:42.500 --> 0:34:46.299
<v Speaker 3>college students. This concept has helped me understand that overconfidence

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.890
<v Speaker 3>is actually an indication of ignorance. A true expert on

0:34:49.930 --> 0:34:52.110
<v Speaker 3>a subject never pretends to know it all. They remain

0:34:52.190 --> 0:34:54.250
<v Speaker 3>open to new inputs and have curiosity, as you and

0:34:54.270 --> 0:34:57.609
<v Speaker 3>Jack have often pointed out. Of course, we know many

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<v Speaker 3>of them also have an agenda. OK, thank you. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>then he says some very, very nice things about the show. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 3>my brother. It's very kind of you to say thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see. This is Dimitri. Oh, my God. More on

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<v Speaker 3>the three year old soccer prodigy story. This gentleman, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a bone to pick with both of you regarding

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<v Speaker 3>your coverage of the story. You failed to cover my

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<v Speaker 3>side of the situation, which is the who gives a

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<v Speaker 3>crap side. I feel bad for the cop that had

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with this childish situation. So I'll be starting

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<v Speaker 3>a GoFundMe for the officer. All the other people involved

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<v Speaker 3>can F off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the cop is probably the one who needs the GoFundMe.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God. Mike from Salem, Oregon. Love this. Love Salem.

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<v Speaker 3>Was intrigued by your story about the mom who left

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<v Speaker 3>her four kids, ages 9 to 14, home alone for

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<v Speaker 3>five days? Based on the ages, I'm going to assume

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<v Speaker 3>at least two of them are old enough to get

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<v Speaker 3>an abortion or have their penis chopped off without their

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<v Speaker 3>mother approving or even knowing about it in a blue state.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing that qualifies them to run the household for

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<v Speaker 3>a few days. What a messed up world we live in.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and the media goes out of their way to

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<v Speaker 4>come up with these headlines. The fact's not always completely there.

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<v Speaker 4>While she was in Las Vegas, it was a business trip.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the same as she went there to party.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a bachelorette weekend. Yeah, exactly. But they just

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<v Speaker 3>want people to yell at each other in the comments

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<v Speaker 3>and increase engagement. Oh, Kurt in San Diego, we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about back in the day, you'd go off to

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<v Speaker 3>work and then you'd come home at night and you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to stay in touch all day long. But

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<v Speaker 3>he pointed out, if you were going to be working late,

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<v Speaker 3>you could pick up a landline and call home and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be late, honey. Cell phones go out now.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's talking. Nobody's communicating to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>For a long time. Nope. That would be weird. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Good point.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd think, I'm not going to freak out over this.

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<v Speaker 4>And the freak out feeling would grow throughout the day

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<v Speaker 4>if all the cell phones got shut off. We've got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more coming up. If you miss it, get

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty.