WEBVTT - KNBR's 2026 Dubs Roundtable Show 0:00:00.350 --> 0:00:03.030 Dub Nation. Welcome to the. 0:00:02.750 --> 0:00:08.539 2026 KNBR Dubs Roundtable featuring Brian Murphy, Marcus Boucher, Adam Cogle, 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.420 Derek Papa, and John Dickinson. 0:00:10.460 --> 0:00:13.139 Steph with a good swipe down and steal. Curry the 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:13.880 trail three. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:14.620 Yes, sir! 0:00:15.060 --> 0:00:19.000 Sponsored by O'Donnell Financial, where planning is a process, not 0:00:19.060 --> 0:00:19.480 a product. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:20.340 Call 1-866-496-2300. 0:00:20.420 --> 0:00:26.730 The ricochet, take it out to Pajewski, Curry for the lead, 0:00:27.110 --> 0:00:31.010 got it! He's got 12 threes, he's got 48, and 0:00:31.050 --> 0:00:33.949 the Warriors are on top. Live from Harmonic Brewing at 0:00:34.010 --> 0:00:36.770 Thrive City outside of Chase Center, here's your. 0:00:36.670 --> 0:00:38.190 Host, Adam Copeland. 0:00:39.990 --> 0:00:42.709 Live from Harmonic Brewing at Thrive City, it is your 0:00:42.710 --> 0:00:47.110 2026 KMBR Dubs Roundtable. Adam Copeland, Derek Papa, Brian Murphy, 0:00:47.150 --> 0:00:50.040 Marcus Boucher, and John Dickinson ahead of the home opener, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.340 the Warriors and the Memphis Grizzlies tonight. 0:00:53.020 --> 0:00:54.860 Come on by. We'd love to see you here at 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.860 Harmonic Brewing. 0:00:56.180 --> 0:01:00.790 We're going to need some assistance with the mics. When 0:01:00.810 --> 0:01:03.850 we jump in mid-segment, we always got to navigate the audio. 0:01:04.650 --> 0:01:07.490 What's his first time? Yeah, Tobin. I thought Tobin. Sounds 0:01:07.510 --> 0:01:07.810 like it. 0:01:07.930 --> 0:01:11.130 Yeah, no, I don't know. First round table for Tobin. 0:01:11.150 --> 0:01:13.030 Murph's trying to get riffs off, but nobody can hear 0:01:13.050 --> 0:01:15.530 him but me. I'm just trying to riff. 0:01:15.550 --> 0:01:15.830 Yeah, Murph. 0:01:15.850 --> 0:01:19.380 Tobin. There he goes. Coast. Derek. Plenty of seats available. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.440 Yeah, the frequently lightly attended at Dub's round table, dude. 0:01:24.459 --> 0:01:27.360 Except for Patrick and Zona. Dude, Patrick and Zona. Yeah, Hawaii. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:27.980 Hawaii veterans. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:28.280 Aloha. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.300 And my dude over here, judging with a wise, skeptical 0:01:31.459 --> 0:01:33.620 eye over here, my man. He comes and he's like... 0:01:34.260 --> 0:01:37.500 He's a fan, but he'll give you fair criticism, too. Oh, really? 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:37.979 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:38.020 --> 0:01:39.920 And how about my gent over here? I think he 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.260 doesn't even know we're supposed to be here. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.560 He came for other reasons. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.480 He's here for a beer. He's got a mysterious meeting 0:01:44.500 --> 0:01:46.619 that we're crashing right now. He's swiping. 0:01:46.670 --> 0:01:48.570 He's got AirPods in listening to something else. 0:01:48.770 --> 0:01:52.870 Plenty of seats available at the round table, Cokes. 0:01:52.950 --> 0:01:56.230 Harmonic brewing from Thrive City here. The Dubs tonight at 0:01:56.230 --> 0:01:58.870 7 o'clock against the Memphis Grizzlies. So why don't we 0:01:58.950 --> 0:02:01.210 start just because Derek and I have said, boy, as 0:02:01.270 --> 0:02:04.070 bad as opening night was for the Warriors. A 22-point loss. 0:02:04.410 --> 0:02:06.870 And by the way, that score looks better than it 0:02:06.910 --> 0:02:07.410 actually was. 0:02:07.430 --> 0:02:08.130 Yeah, no, it was not good. 0:02:08.150 --> 0:02:11.340 For most of that game. How gifted were we by 0:02:11.510 --> 0:02:15.040 Yaxel and Luka going head-to-head? So I'll throw it out 0:02:15.060 --> 0:02:16.519 to you guys because we've been having this debate. We 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.900 just discussed it with Marcus Thompson. I kind of like 0:02:18.940 --> 0:02:21.240 the crazy, but you guys know me. I'm an S-talker. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.019 Shocker. 0:02:22.260 --> 0:02:24.050 I'm down with it. I like that he's like, you 0:02:24.070 --> 0:02:26.070 haven't done anything to me. You've got to prove to me. 0:02:26.330 --> 0:02:30.530 There's a great scene in Survivor Season 20, Heroes vs. Villains. 0:02:30.550 --> 0:02:30.650 Nice. 0:02:30.830 --> 0:02:34.280 Where James the Gravedigger, he's this big buff dude, Colby 0:02:34.340 --> 0:02:36.160 is back, who was like the first big, bold dude 0:02:36.180 --> 0:02:36.419 in Survivor. 0:02:36.460 --> 0:02:36.780 Do you know this? 0:02:36.900 --> 0:02:38.840 Won all the challenges in like season two or whatever. 0:02:38.860 --> 0:02:40.959 He goes to the finals. Well, James then goes to 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.540 season 20 with Colby, and Colby comes back. Colby can't 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.530 win anything. He's losing everything. He's not the guy he 0:02:45.590 --> 0:02:47.470 used to be. James is talking to the camera, and 0:02:47.490 --> 0:02:49.190 he goes, I came down to this island because I 0:02:49.230 --> 0:02:52.710 love Colby, man. Now it's like my Superman sucks. I 0:02:52.750 --> 0:02:55.960 feel like that's how Yaxel felt when he had Luka 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:56.460 in his face. 0:02:56.500 --> 0:02:58.940 You guys got to cut that. It's like my Superman sucks. 0:02:58.980 --> 0:03:00.120 You got to keep that on your board. 0:03:00.139 --> 0:03:02.559 We got to find that James the Gravedigger, dude. 0:03:02.580 --> 0:03:04.320 Do you know that one, Marcus? I know the reference. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.200 My Superman sucks? Well, if there was any prediction I 0:03:08.220 --> 0:03:11.050 could make in the 2026-2027 Warriors season, it would be 0:03:11.090 --> 0:03:15.530 that Adam Copeland supported the ish talk. Surprise, surprise. That's 0:03:15.570 --> 0:03:18.630 really the only thing we can guarantee in this season. 0:03:18.650 --> 0:03:19.970 He backed it up, too. I mean, he was one 0:03:20.010 --> 0:03:20.770 for six against him. 0:03:20.790 --> 0:03:22.760 So, I mean, the question really is, do you need 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.460 accomplishments to trash talk, or does having that confidence, is 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.320 it okay if that's just who you are as a guy? 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.940 Well, in the recently published, lightly read jock blog, 808 KMBR, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:38.110 what's more lightly attended, a jock blog or a Warriors roundtable? 0:03:38.330 --> 0:03:40.350 Have more people read the blog or come to the roundtable? 0:03:40.450 --> 0:03:43.310 More clicks on the jock blog or more people here. 0:03:43.430 --> 0:03:48.510 There's more people here, Murph. Definitely more people here. You 0:03:48.530 --> 0:03:50.290 can read in peace. You can read it in peace. 0:03:50.310 --> 0:03:51.930 Call it up, Patrick. You can read it in peace. Anyway, 0:03:52.370 --> 0:03:55.400 I said, listen, you'd be shocked, right? The gray hair 0:03:55.460 --> 0:03:59.900 on my head and my rule following ways, right? You know, 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:01.520 you got to tuck in at the golf club, right? 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.540 That kind of stuff. You'd be shocked to hear I 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.010 support Yaxl. And there's two main reasons. I said this 0:04:08.030 --> 0:04:11.690 to Marcus all week. Number one is Luca. And there's 0:04:11.750 --> 0:04:15.570 a there's a this era of basketball is unattractive. And 0:04:15.610 --> 0:04:19.060 it's not just him. It's James Harden. It's Shea Gilgis Alexander. 0:04:19.130 --> 0:04:22.140 And none of us likes it. Nobody likes it. I 0:04:22.140 --> 0:04:24.080 don't even think the fans of their own teams like it. 0:04:24.100 --> 0:04:25.320 You know, there's a Giants motto. 0:04:27.100 --> 0:04:27.900 Nobody likes it. 0:04:27.980 --> 0:04:28.940 So calling that out. 0:04:30.860 --> 0:04:32.740 Was refreshing, you know? I mean, it was like, I 0:04:32.740 --> 0:04:33.920 don't know if he's the very first guy ever to 0:04:33.940 --> 0:04:35.200 do it. I mean, people have called out Harden and 0:04:35.220 --> 0:04:37.700 all that. But the way he did it in such 0:04:37.750 --> 0:04:39.500 blunt ways. And number two, the other thing I'm going 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.270 to give him credit for is that he backed it 0:04:41.310 --> 0:04:44.270 up with effort. He's playing defense, and he's playing hard 0:04:44.330 --> 0:04:46.909 on defense in the manner, you know, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, 0:04:46.930 --> 0:04:49.010 those guys set the tone. So I'm giving him those 0:04:49.089 --> 0:04:53.170 two reasons that I will allow this and support it. A, 0:04:53.270 --> 0:04:57.870 call out the BS, Luka, Harden, Shea. B, bust your 0:04:57.930 --> 0:05:00.250 ass on the defensive end of the court. That's my take. 0:05:00.770 --> 0:05:03.070 J.D., you were saying that you were sitting next to 0:05:03.110 --> 0:05:05.820 Marcus Thompson in L.A. Marcus Thompson supported and had a 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.400 great piece about it in The Athletic. He was just 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.680 talking with us about it before we got going in 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.840 the Dubs roundtable. But, J.D., were you on the same 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.940 side as Marcus in this? Were you in support of 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.760 Yaxel Lindeborg? 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.540 Yeah, I didn't have an issue with him mixing it 0:05:16.580 --> 0:05:20.640 up with him the first time. And I'm not actually 0:05:20.670 --> 0:05:23.130 going as far as Derek. When they went toe-to-toe and 0:05:23.170 --> 0:05:24.729 had to be separated and all that, I thought that 0:05:24.750 --> 0:05:27.789 was great. And I don't even have an issue with 0:05:28.370 --> 0:05:30.370 talking trash to him and saying, hey, you can't score 0:05:30.410 --> 0:05:32.310 on me, something like that. But the two things that 0:05:32.330 --> 0:05:34.830 I had a problem with, one, was Yaxel after the game. 0:05:34.870 --> 0:05:38.320 And people missed this because the quote that got everybody 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.440 going was the, I've lost respect for. But Yaxel admitted 0:05:41.500 --> 0:05:44.800 the fact that he allowed the whistle that Luka gets 0:05:44.860 --> 0:05:46.940 and the back and forth to take him out of 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.000 his game a little bit in game. 0:05:49.570 --> 0:05:50.410 That can't happen. 0:05:50.610 --> 0:05:52.450 I don't care if it's game one or whatever, like 0:05:52.500 --> 0:05:54.760 you can battle whoever you want, say whatever you want, 0:05:55.260 --> 0:05:57.220 but I have an issue with admitting that you got 0:05:57.620 --> 0:05:59.640 off kilter in game and kind of got in your 0:05:59.660 --> 0:06:01.240 own head. And there was a lot of antics with 0:06:01.260 --> 0:06:04.450 the officials. I thought that were an extension of the 0:06:04.490 --> 0:06:08.090 back and forth with Luca, which was not necessarily a 0:06:08.150 --> 0:06:10.450 good look for a player playing his first NBA game. 0:06:10.470 --> 0:06:12.490 And then the stuff after the game, like, Whoa, like 0:06:12.529 --> 0:06:14.390 talk about putting a target and maybe it's less of 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.700 a target, Murph, because it's Luka, to your point, if 0:06:18.779 --> 0:06:20.840 it was another player that was maybe a little bit 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.539 more respected widely, there would be other players in the 0:06:23.580 --> 0:06:25.420 league that are thinking, who the hell is this guy? 0:06:25.779 --> 0:06:29.520 Game one, talking all that-ish. And then, yeah, backing it up, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.320 but one for six, Luka against Yaxl. Backing up, Yaxl 0:06:34.339 --> 0:06:37.460 didn't exactly play great. And he also got beat by 0:06:37.620 --> 0:06:40.810 essentially 30. I know it ended up cosmetically being 22, 0:06:40.810 --> 0:06:44.150 but they were down by 35. It wasn't a 22-point game. 0:06:44.170 --> 0:06:47.360 So I think there's a lot more like the tenacity, 0:06:48.180 --> 0:06:50.440 be unafraid to go up against anybody. 0:06:50.500 --> 0:06:51.779 That's all good in game. 0:06:51.820 --> 0:06:53.539 I don't have a problem with guys mixing it up, 0:06:54.050 --> 0:06:57.370 but Hey, if you're going to, sometimes you write checks 0:06:57.770 --> 0:07:00.330 that you may individually be able to cash, but your 0:07:00.370 --> 0:07:03.250 team can't cash. And I think in some ways you 0:07:03.270 --> 0:07:05.409 have to be a little bit cognizant of that, especially 0:07:05.430 --> 0:07:06.630 as a young player learning to grow. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.680 Well, and I, what I would say is like, this 0:07:08.740 --> 0:07:10.320 is all fun for one game and it's a fun 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.480 discussion and it's a good like sports debate and like, 0:07:12.500 --> 0:07:14.720 you know, the rookie against the veteran and, He's the 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.000 greatest scorer in the world. But opening night, they lose 0:07:17.020 --> 0:07:18.160 by 22 like Mark. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:18.660 Exactly. 0:07:18.700 --> 0:07:20.240 I look at this and I'm like, dude, what are 0:07:20.260 --> 0:07:23.370 we actually expecting for 81 games this season? 0:07:24.230 --> 0:07:26.010 Well, I'll give you one. I mean, go back to 0:07:26.050 --> 0:07:28.630 just real quick. Go back to the summer league because 0:07:28.830 --> 0:07:31.590 who are they playing tonight? They're playing Memphis. He had 0:07:31.630 --> 0:07:32.590 beef with Cam Boozer. 0:07:33.260 --> 0:07:34.119 In the Summer League. 0:07:34.420 --> 0:07:36.260 And so that's the thing that I, like, is this 0:07:36.300 --> 0:07:36.740 going to be an. 0:07:36.740 --> 0:07:38.100 Every night thing? On his way to a title, by 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.480 the way. On his way to a Summer League title. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.910 But it's like, is there going to be beef every 0:07:42.970 --> 0:07:45.630 single night between he and somebody? 0:07:45.950 --> 0:07:51.870 And that's fine. Hopefully. Give you something to do. Could be. 0:07:51.890 --> 0:07:53.870 Marcus, how are you looking at what looks like a 0:07:53.890 --> 0:07:54.750 good season for this team? 0:07:55.500 --> 0:07:57.620 Um, what looks like a good season would be making 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.920 the playoffs. Now, is that possible? I don't know. They 0:07:59.940 --> 0:08:01.640 look like a playing team right now. So I think 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:02.480 they need two things. 0:08:02.500 --> 0:08:05.350 They need Yaxel to not talk as much trash, but 0:08:05.550 --> 0:08:07.330 be good on the actual court. Like Yaxel needs to 0:08:07.370 --> 0:08:09.010 be in the conversation for rookie of the year this 0:08:09.030 --> 0:08:10.990 year for this team to compete. I'd say a guy 0:08:11.010 --> 0:08:13.070 like Brandon Pajemski, he needs to put himself in a 0:08:13.110 --> 0:08:14.950 position where he takes that next step. 0:08:15.010 --> 0:08:16.090 He needs a breakout season. 0:08:16.350 --> 0:08:18.990 So they need those two young guys to contribute early 0:08:19.050 --> 0:08:21.590 and often this season because they're This is an old 0:08:21.770 --> 0:08:24.250 Warriors team that's going to struggle throughout the regular season. 0:08:24.530 --> 0:08:27.650 So whether it's the trash talk or the lack of 0:08:27.770 --> 0:08:30.170 size and lack of performance night in, night out, this 0:08:30.210 --> 0:08:31.610 is not going to be the most interesting team in 0:08:31.630 --> 0:08:32.010 the world. 0:08:32.070 --> 0:08:35.069 So what is successful? Making the playoffs. Will that happen? 0:08:35.350 --> 0:08:37.190 I don't know. It's a tough task. 0:08:37.230 --> 0:08:39.630 Trash talk is fun when Draymond's winning. When you're going 0:08:39.670 --> 0:08:42.010 after titles and stuff. But Derek, it's not all that 0:08:42.050 --> 0:08:43.910 fun when Draymond's running his mouth and you're running out 0:08:43.929 --> 0:08:46.920 of games and you're losing games by 25 points. It's 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:47.280 not cute. 0:08:47.860 --> 0:08:49.420 It's not fun when you're getting ran out of the 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.319 gym by the Snowtime Lakers. Exactly. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.120 And that's my thing, though, is it's his first game 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.710 in the NBA, and he's talking this way to Luka. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.030 And I understand, like, everything he said, I agree with. 0:09:00.390 --> 0:09:02.550 I don't like Luka Doncic. I hate that he bitches 0:09:02.590 --> 0:09:05.350 all the time about everything in an NBA game. But 0:09:05.370 --> 0:09:08.150 at the same time, Yaxel, just because you feel that 0:09:08.190 --> 0:09:11.170 way doesn't mean you need to vocalize that postgame. Now, 0:09:11.230 --> 0:09:13.290 we talked about with Marcus Thompson. There's been many guys 0:09:13.330 --> 0:09:15.250 early in their careers that did trash talk with veterans. 0:09:15.550 --> 0:09:17.830 Draymond did it his rookie year. Richard Sherman did it 0:09:17.870 --> 0:09:19.800 his rookie year. But those guys did it when they 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.620 accomplished something. He axled just that foot on an NBA court, 0:09:23.860 --> 0:09:25.860 and he's talking to Luka? I just thought it was 0:09:25.980 --> 0:09:28.460 a little much. And I know that the words were... 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.380 I lost all respect for him. Maybe that was a 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.230 little much. Maybe he didn't really feel that way. But 0:09:32.470 --> 0:09:35.309 when you put that in print, that's something. That's saying, 0:09:35.330 --> 0:09:38.170 I don't respect you, and I never played you before. 0:09:38.190 --> 0:09:40.580 This is my first time playing in the NBA. I 0:09:40.820 --> 0:09:42.100 just thought, and I know a lot of people like 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.560 Jason Kidd was on Inside the NBA last night and said, 0:09:44.580 --> 0:09:45.300 I thought it was a little much. 0:09:46.220 --> 0:09:47.580 It is a little much. 0:09:47.700 --> 0:09:50.240 There's nothing wrong with trash talk your first game going 0:09:50.260 --> 0:09:52.070 up against Luka Doncic, but when you say I lost 0:09:52.110 --> 0:09:54.850 all respect for him, I thought that was way out. 0:09:54.790 --> 0:09:56.790 Of bounds for me, honestly. I had a passage in 0:09:56.809 --> 0:10:02.089 the jock. Here it is. Six-time All-NBA first-teamer. Two-time NBA 0:10:02.130 --> 0:10:02.970 scoring champ. 0:10:03.050 --> 0:10:04.070 Reigning scoring champ, too. 0:10:04.270 --> 0:10:08.530 Five-time top eight MVP vote getter versus a guy who's 0:10:08.570 --> 0:10:12.830 played 29 career NBA minutes and has a career minus 0:10:12.830 --> 0:10:15.730 21 in the plus minus. Yeah, but one of those 0:10:15.770 --> 0:10:19.380 guys you just mentioned doesn't have a summer league MVP. Yeah, 0:10:19.410 --> 0:10:22.900 that's true. Or a national champion. Obviously, there's nuances to it. JD, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.620 you made good points. Derek, you made good points, too. 0:10:24.660 --> 0:10:26.319 But it's sort of like... You know, in this world 0:10:26.340 --> 0:10:27.800 we live in, maybe you look at it this way. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.740 You know, we just had Raymond out here telling us, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.179 trying to remind us that the Warriors won four championships. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.199 And I love Raymond and all that. But but let's 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.880 be honest, they're they're they're heading into a new uncertain era. 0:10:38.500 --> 0:10:41.199 Maybe Yaxel is, you know, by doing so much so 0:10:41.260 --> 0:10:43.100 soon is giving them a little bit of an early 0:10:43.179 --> 0:10:45.740 identity for the post Steph Curry years. I don't know. 0:10:45.780 --> 0:10:47.940 I mean, we're reaching after one game. I believe we 0:10:47.980 --> 0:10:50.449 sat here a year ago. Didn't Kuminga have a really 0:10:50.490 --> 0:10:53.330 good opener? Against the Lakers, right? Weren't we fired up 0:10:53.429 --> 0:10:55.130 on Kuminga last year? 0:10:55.390 --> 0:10:55.550 We? 0:10:55.770 --> 0:11:02.520 Some of us told you he wouldn't be around in February. Yes. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.440 One of us. I mean, we expected them to lose 0:11:04.460 --> 0:11:07.640 that game, right? I mean, they were underdogs, right? I mean, 0:11:07.700 --> 0:11:09.340 I hate to say it, but no pods and no... 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.360 Charles Bassey. As you know, JD, I'm a Bassey guy. 0:11:12.420 --> 0:11:15.840 As you know, JD. By the way, I'm not even joking. 0:11:16.020 --> 0:11:18.440 I am a Bassey guy. Give me a rebound, man. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.660 Give me a freaking rebound. That's why I support another 0:11:22.730 --> 0:11:24.350 controversy of Lightning Rod, Angel Reese. 0:11:24.630 --> 0:11:27.230 It's a great line, too. He made that comment on 0:11:27.270 --> 0:11:29.570 the show the other day. Angel Reese is like the 0:11:29.610 --> 0:11:30.830 Charles Bassey. 0:11:30.450 --> 0:11:31.270 Of the WCS. 0:11:31.390 --> 0:11:31.870 Oh, wow. 0:11:32.050 --> 0:11:34.370 The disrespect. Except for when the word came out, Bassey 0:11:34.410 --> 0:11:36.580 was out, and Marcus sent a text to our group 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.800 that Angel Reese greater than Charles Bass. It's true. It's true. 0:11:39.820 --> 0:11:41.480 Give me Angel Reese. I wrote back. I said, maybe 0:11:41.500 --> 0:11:45.190 my guy Bassey's made a cardboard. Don't get him wet. 0:11:45.250 --> 0:11:47.910 He's a baby, baby, baby Larry Smith is what he is. 0:11:48.530 --> 0:11:51.550 You bring up a good point, though, Murph, about Raymond 0:11:51.590 --> 0:11:53.410 talking about, hey, don't forget they won four titles. And 0:11:53.450 --> 0:11:54.729 that's kind of where we are. And Derek and I 0:11:54.750 --> 0:11:56.830 have been talking about this all this week leading up 0:11:56.850 --> 0:11:58.810 to it. At some point, it was funny because Derek 0:11:58.850 --> 0:12:01.610 actually first ever said this to me a year and 0:12:01.630 --> 0:12:03.570 a half ago, two seasons, whatever it was when they 0:12:03.610 --> 0:12:05.690 got Jimmy Butler. Because I really wanted him to get 0:12:05.730 --> 0:12:07.850 Jimmy Butler. At one point, there was talk about trading 0:12:07.870 --> 0:12:10.209 for Durant at the trade deadline, and the Warriors couldn't 0:12:10.230 --> 0:12:12.460 score 100, and Steph was like, I don't know what 0:12:12.500 --> 0:12:14.120 we're going to do about the offense. I'm not really sure. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.859 They get Jimmy Butler, and they went from the 10 0:12:15.860 --> 0:12:17.699 seed all the way up to the final weekend having 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.319 a chance to play for the 4 seed. They had 0:12:19.420 --> 0:12:21.559 really vaulted themselves until Steph got hurt. 0:12:21.950 --> 0:12:22.550 In the postseason. 0:12:22.590 --> 0:12:24.410 But Derek said, you know, if they don't get anybody, 0:12:24.429 --> 0:12:26.690 like at what point are we just like enjoying what this, 0:12:26.910 --> 0:12:29.610 this generation was? Because if Steph wants to be here, 0:12:29.690 --> 0:12:31.380 he didn't make it a big deal about his contract. 0:12:31.660 --> 0:12:33.140 Steve Kerr wants to be here. And we'll talk about 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.800 all these things in more specificity. But I think the 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.660 question we have to ask about this season and, and 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.710 moving forward is, are we still setting the same expectations 0:12:41.750 --> 0:12:44.920 or have we moved past that championship situation. 0:12:44.990 --> 0:12:46.870 I think we're in the presence of greatness. I'm going 0:12:46.890 --> 0:12:48.930 to give Raymond the mic. What was the record with 0:12:48.970 --> 0:12:51.510 Jimmy Butler in the, what was it, in one? Two 0:12:51.530 --> 0:12:54.729 seasons ago. Fourth best record in the NBA when he's 0:12:54.910 --> 0:12:55.830 on the court with Steph? 0:12:55.990 --> 0:12:56.230 Yeah. 0:12:56.630 --> 0:12:58.500 Raymond? From the time you got him to the time 0:12:58.510 --> 0:13:00.560 he got hurt, fourth best record in the NBA, not 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.400 just the West? That's what I'm saying. They went from 0:13:02.420 --> 0:13:03.640 the 10th seed and had a chance to play for 0:13:03.660 --> 0:13:05.360 the four in that final weekend. Yeah, and then they 0:13:05.500 --> 0:13:09.110 took out the Rockets. I brought that up before you 0:13:09.140 --> 0:13:11.870 were here. The ageless Raymond Ritter. I knew that, Raymond. 0:13:11.910 --> 0:13:12.270 I knew that. 0:13:12.290 --> 0:13:14.090 We'll take a quick break. We're live from Harmonic Brewing 0:13:14.110 --> 0:13:16.770 for our Dubs Roundtable. Are we still setting the same 0:13:16.790 --> 0:13:20.240 championship standards for the Golden State Warriors? Are we grading 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.500 them by those expectations, or have we moved past that? 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.060 Did you see that picture of Raymond Ritter and Jim 0:13:24.100 --> 0:13:24.959 Hill from opening night? 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:25.220 No. 0:13:25.870 --> 0:13:29.250 One of the sports picture of 2026. Oh, my God. 0:13:29.390 --> 0:13:30.209 Jim Hill from Rocky. 0:13:31.130 --> 0:13:33.690 More on Jim Hill and the 2026 Warrior season. 0:13:33.710 --> 0:13:34.310 The legend, Jim Hill. 0:13:34.330 --> 0:13:36.800 We'll do it next from Harmonic Brewing, our Dubs Roundtable 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:37.560 on the Sports Leader. 0:13:40.420 --> 0:13:46.200 This is the 2026 KNBR Dubs Roundtable, sponsored by O'Donnell Financial. 0:13:46.340 --> 0:13:49.560 Let's get back to Harmonic Brewing at Thrive City and your. 0:13:49.420 --> 0:13:50.679 Host, Adam Cochran. 0:13:54.110 --> 0:13:57.809 We're live from Harmonic Brewing for our 2026 KNBR Dubs 0:13:57.890 --> 0:14:01.030 Roundtable opening night at home tonight for the Warriors against 0:14:01.070 --> 0:14:03.969 the Memphis Grizzlies at 7 o'clock. Adam Copeland, Derek Papa, 0:14:04.010 --> 0:14:07.330 Brian Murphy, Marcus Boucher, and John Dickinson with you ahead 0:14:07.390 --> 0:14:10.250 of that 7 o'clock tip. I want to get into 0:14:10.270 --> 0:14:11.670 a little bit about what Murph was just talking about, 0:14:11.710 --> 0:14:13.210 about reasonable expectations. 0:14:13.230 --> 0:14:15.030 Oh, I thought it was the Jim Hill picture. 0:14:15.050 --> 0:14:15.950 You want to get back to Jim Hill? 0:14:16.630 --> 0:14:19.110 We can do a whole roundtable on Jim Hill. I'm 0:14:19.150 --> 0:14:20.620 here for it, but go ahead. 0:14:20.650 --> 0:14:22.940 We can also talk about that new movie, Playing Rocky, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:23.610 or whatever it is. 0:14:23.620 --> 0:14:24.400 Did anybody see it? 0:14:25.020 --> 0:14:25.180 No. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:26.920 Has it gone out yet? I don't think so. 0:14:26.940 --> 0:14:28.840 This is the new thing where Derek and I talk about, 0:14:28.860 --> 0:14:31.440 they don't make a biopic on somebody. They're like, here's 0:14:31.460 --> 0:14:33.040 how we made the Michael Jordan show. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.950 It's not Cradle of the Great. I haven't seen that 0:14:35.050 --> 0:14:35.430 one either. 0:14:35.450 --> 0:14:35.730 Air? 0:14:35.910 --> 0:14:36.470 Air's pretty good. 0:14:36.530 --> 0:14:37.010 Air's good. 0:14:37.050 --> 0:14:38.890 I like Air. Don't tell me you guys are like Gaga, 0:14:38.910 --> 0:14:41.850 like Connell is for that Elizabeth Holmes documentary. I haven't 0:14:41.870 --> 0:14:43.820 seen it yet. Three hours for a doc, it's a 0:14:43.820 --> 0:14:44.180 little much. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:44.940 He's seen it twice. 0:14:45.620 --> 0:14:47.730 Three hours. It's the axle of docs. 0:14:49.570 --> 0:14:49.850 Nice. 0:14:49.890 --> 0:14:53.410 Could have used an edit probably. What were you saying before? 0:14:53.550 --> 0:14:57.010 Don't you pat me on the head, dude. Don't you 0:14:57.030 --> 0:14:57.970 tell me to get on with it. 0:14:58.370 --> 0:15:00.750 I guess the question is really, are we still judging 0:15:00.770 --> 0:15:02.530 the Warriors by championship expectations? 0:15:02.910 --> 0:15:03.730 Or have we moved past that? 0:15:03.750 --> 0:15:06.130 Because I think what's so frustrating, and we'll talk about 0:15:06.150 --> 0:15:08.870 the ends of other dynasties in Bay Area history, but 0:15:09.170 --> 0:15:12.530 when the Giants dynasty ended, Buster Posey retired, right? They 0:15:12.550 --> 0:15:15.080 didn't have the pitching staff anymore. We look at Steph Curry, 0:15:15.100 --> 0:15:17.040 and I think a lot of us believe with the 0:15:17.100 --> 0:15:19.740 right pieces around him, he could still be the focal 0:15:19.780 --> 0:15:22.900 point of a contending team in the NBA. But none 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.280 of that's happening. He's kind of accepted that none of 0:15:25.300 --> 0:15:27.900 that is happening. So I don't really know. They're kind 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.450 of in this in-between here where it's the end of 0:15:29.490 --> 0:15:33.430 a dynasty, but they've still decided to commit both to Steph, Draymond, 0:15:33.470 --> 0:15:35.470 and then on the coaching side, Steve Kerr. So what 0:15:35.510 --> 0:15:38.310 are reasonable and fair expectations? Marcus, we can start with you. 0:15:38.490 --> 0:15:41.570 The expectation is to be a playing team, and hopefully 0:15:41.630 --> 0:15:43.670 you can avoid the playing bracket and make yourself a 0:15:43.770 --> 0:15:46.100 top six contender in the West, and you can skip 0:15:46.220 --> 0:15:47.800 all the BS that they had to go through last 0:15:47.820 --> 0:15:49.440 year when they won the first playing game and then 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.580 got knocked out in the second one. Because we have 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.180