WEBVTT - Jon Fleischman on last night's election results 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.160 And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.000 on the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy wangs in Culver City. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 John ballots are still being counted in the city of 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.680 Los Angeles, but right now it sure looks like Spencer 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.120 Pratt is advancing to the November runoff along with everybody's 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:18.759 favorite D dropper. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:19.760 And when the. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:24.560 World comes in ten short days, the world will be 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.240 here for the world come, and we're gonna show them 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.040 the magic of Los Angeles. Well, she may drop the D, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:33.440 but Tom Steyer doesn't. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.080 I'm Tom Steyer. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.199 I'm about to ride the tea. You better hope he 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:42.920 gets more votes. So we're gonna have no reason to 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.280 play that. Oh it'll be gratuitous, but we're gonna continue 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.160 to play it for sure. Eight hundred two two two 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.879 five two two two is a telephone number one eight 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.000 hundred two two two five two two two. It is 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.600 our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.920 He is the publisher So Doesitmatter dot Com, which covers 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:07.479 California politics. If you log on and subscribe, they'll send 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.800 it right to your email box and you'll be able 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.200 to check out John's take each and every morning on 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:17.120 California Politics. You can get them online at Sodoesitmatter dot com. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.119 John Fleischmann, Welcome. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.600 John, Thank you for having me back on the show 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.800 for another opportunity to chronicle the burning of Rome. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.240 Well, let's start with the governor's race because and you 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.720 always have to add this caveat because we take over 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.080 a month to count all the ballots here in North Korea. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.160 But as of now, it appears that Steve Hilton is 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.280 in the driver's seat in first place, with Javier Bessera, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.360 the former Attorney general and second place, and Tom Steyer 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.040 finishing out of the money just under twenty percent in 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.840 third place. What do you make of that result? 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.160 Well, I mean the first thing I would tell you 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.880 is now having I'm wonky enough that I spent some 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.840 time with a calculator and figuring things out, and these 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.520 results are not going to change. There is no way, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.720 with even several remaining million ballots to be counted, that 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.760 the numbers will change enough to change the outcome. So 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.360 this is going to be a Steve Hilton versus Bessarah showdown. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.960 And so what you've got is Besserah is going to 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.880 have to spend the fall or he should be spending 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.920 the fall defending Gavin Newsom's record, because he really, of 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.360 all of the Democrats running kind of ran on the hey, 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.800 I will be the least attruptive transition from Gavin Newsom 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.960 to Xavier Bessera and it'll all be good, right, That 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.480 was his pitch. So he owns everything. And of course 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.480 Newsom gets what he wants, because what he didn't want 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.840 was a new person running for governor and becoming governor 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.639 in California. That would be attacking his record while he's 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.200 busy running for president. So we have Steve Hilton, who's 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.000 extraordinarily articulate and hard charging focus on Bessara in the 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.600 Fall on his record, and of course Bassara will just 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.680 respond by saying, but Trump, Trump, Trump Trump. And it 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.799 remains to be seen whether or not the prop fifty 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.560 playbook from last fall can repeat itself where the Democrats 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.040 never have to talk about all of their failures because 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.640 all they talk about is Donald Trump. That's possible, you know, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.120 I don't know, but that's that's kind of the setup 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.160 that we have. And then you know, you'd appreciate this, John, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.320 because you study politics like I do, there's a whole 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.840 lot more Democrats than Republicans in California. So not only 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.280 does Steve Hilton have to do everything right, but Bessarah 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.800 is going to have to take a fall. He's going 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.119 to have to stumble, and you know, I know you've 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:42.920 talked about it plenty on your show, but we can 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.040 talk a little bit about the legal issues that are 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.960 just right tendential to him with his own with the 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.280 scheme to pay his own chief of staff, more money 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.560 out of nonprofit funds and all of that. But but 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.920 the governor's race is set, and I think it's going 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.400 to be a vibrant one. It's going to be an 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.640 interesting one. But we are a blue state, so something's 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.400 got to happen. But the outcome is pretty predictable. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.040 My theory, and maybe you disagree, I don't know, is 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.520 that the Democrats are going to run Javier Bessera as 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.839 the California Joe Biden, and they're going to try to 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.200 turn him into a generic Democrat and put him in 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.839 the basement and put him on TV as little as possible, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.680 put him in front of small, friendly audiences. Don't let 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.400 him go on TV often. If you do, just put 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.880 them on MSNBC or something like that every so often 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.600 to just remind people that he's there. But you don't 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.320 want him sitting down on Meet the Press. You do 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.200 not want him debating Steve Hilton more than once. You 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.000 do not want him out there in a position where 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.880 he exposes himself to liability if something goes haywire. And 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.560 the way you prevent that from happening is you just 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:58.760 lock him down at home. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.960 I agree with you one hundred percent. You're totally right. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.080 There's nothing to gain and everything to lose by having 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.480 Sarah out there on the campaign trail, giving speeches and 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.719 becoming the object. As a matter of fact, I think 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.200 the plan will be where he will do lots of 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.360 quiet private events while his public employee union friends start 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:26.680 running the whole Trump's Best Friend ad campaign against against 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.120 you know, Steve Hilton, because they would like to stop 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.920 Hilton at the roughly forty percent mark, which is the 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.880 high point if all the Republicans are unified him once again. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.080 This turnout model so far as kind of proving that 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.240 because if you take the numbers that currently exist for 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.080 Hilton and add in the numbers that Beyonco got, it's 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.760 right around forty percent, which has always been the cap. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.120 Of course, not forty percent of the House seats now, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.799 but forty percent of the voters in California really would 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.880 like to see a significant change. And then you know 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.800 it's all these undecided voters, and right now anyways, the 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.960 president is particularly unpopular with that group, so you can 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.440 imagine that they will. You know, it's not very hard 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.880 to tie Steve Hilton to the President, who just as 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.320 of yesterday was on truth Social saying I need Steve Hilton, right. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.880 It's kind of like Steve Hilton used the Trump endorsement 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.440 very effectively to become the Republican nominee. But you know, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.320 in for a penny, in for a pound, right, he 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.279 is now the Trump guy. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.839 If you are Steve Hilton, what do you do to 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.560 lure Javier Bessera out of the basement and get him 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.080 in debate two and get him to show up for 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.479 interviews where people will challenge him, and get him in 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.120 front of large audiences. How do you make that happen? 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.240 I mean so intuitively, since you don't prep your guests 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.920 with your questions, I would say a couple things first 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.039 and foremost. If I'm Steve Hilton. I'm going straight into 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.360 doing public events in the Hispanic dominated areas of Los Angeles, 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 taking it right to him so that it's it's it's 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.320 painfully obvious that he's avoiding Hilton, and Hilton takes his 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.600 message right there. And then, of course, you know, Hilton 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.440 needs to and all of Hilton sergates need to go 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.080 on all the media shows and say I'm here, I'm available, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.280 and it's you know, it's kind of like the equivalent 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.760 back in the day. Remember the milk carton ad right, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.240 Where's where's you know, you can the milk carton with 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.240 you know, where's Javier? 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:29.600 Right? 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.040 You've got to You've got to just roll out a 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.240 constant message of this guy has gone a wall. He's 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:36.680 nowhere to be seen. As a matter of fact, we 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.240 hear more from Gavin Newsom, the outgoing governor, then we 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.440 hear from the guy that is going to be the 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.760 next governor of California or wants to be the next 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.160 governor California. So I think those are the two things 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.440 that immediately. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:48.480 Come to mind. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.360 Do you have a great idea? You always have a 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:51.840 good idea. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.400 I would just appeal to his ego and his narcissism, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.520 and I would put stories out there that his team 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.800 doesn't trust him and that's why they want to keep 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.520 him locked up in the basement. And I would try 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.600 to create conflict between him and his team so that 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.520 he forces himself out there. That's what the Democrats do 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.120 to Trump, and it seems to work on a regular 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.360 basis with him. But Javier Bessera, don't forget, is not 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.720 going to have his kitchen cabinet running this race because 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.280 one of them is cutting a deal with the Feds, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.840 the other ones in the process of cutting a deal 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.280 with the Feds, the third one's in trouble, and he's 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.880 going to have arranged marriages with all of these new 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:36.160 consultants and strategists that he may or may not trust himself. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.000 I would try to create conflict between the two of 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.120 them and make it seem like they treat him like 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.000 he's an infant, and they keep them locked up because 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.320 they think he's going to have a gaff. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.760 Well, and then I think, on top of it, I 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.120 think another way to lure him out. You could tell me, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.120 I mean, I could see the pros and the constant 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.520 this is put the president on him. Just start calling him. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.920 Chicken besserah right, and it's the president of the United States. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.400 By the way, what's going on in California. Chicken Besara 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.360 won't debate, Chicken Bessera won't come out right. You know. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.240 The downside is it's more time. I don't think you 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.800 can tie Hilton to Trump any more than. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:14.080 He will be. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.720 That's already done anyway, So you may as well use 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.160 the president to really humiliate, you know, because you can 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.319 see it now. Gavin Newsom will be on He's no Chicken, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.360 and then Gavin newsomill be oh no, then why are 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:25.960 you the one talking to me instead of the guy 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.680 that wants your job? 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:28.600 Right? 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.440 You could just kind of play it out that way. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.000 So that's just another idea. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.720 Let's shift gears here and talk about Katie Porter because 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:40.240 her support just collapsed. I'm looking at the Secretary of 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.880 State's website right now. She's currently sitting at four point 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.439 six percent, which is lower than what she had been 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:52.000 pulling almost the entire way through the election. It looks 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.200 like Democrats who planned on supporting her at the last 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.640 minute got cold feet and decided to jump to another 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.560 can because her support just evaporated. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:07.600 Well, you're not. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:08.319 You're not. You're not. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:08.600 Kid. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.360 It's kind of funny. I woke up this morning to 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.440 the fact that a local Republican volunteer happened to be 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.360 last night at a bar in Newport Beach. And who 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.920 is sitting at a table in the bar in Newport 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.320 Beach with a couple of people cool in her heels 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.480 but Katie Porter, who I guess needed to tie on 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.720 a stiff one after a after losing her campaign. She 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.360 you know what, I think she she thought she was 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.440 going to be the next Elizabeth Warren. And now now 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.040 you just have to feel bad for a bunch of 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.520 law school students at the UCI Law School who are 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.040 all going to hear her preach to them about how 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.680 she would have run America. It's going to be. I mean, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.880 pro tip if you're an incoming student that you see 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:53.120 hervine avoid Professor Porter's class. I think she's just gonna 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.280 all all the students in there are just going to 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.720 suffer horribly from her feelings of inadequacy. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.920 It's going to be. I think she's going to be 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.240 one of these people that never goes away. She's going 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.640 to spend the rest of her life running for office. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.480 She's going to run for attorney general or something else. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.319 Next time around, she'll run against Todd Spitzer for DA 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.199 of Orange County. I don't think she's ever going to 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.440 leave public life. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.800 I agree with that. You know, right now, she's going 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.880 to be like all upset because Dave Min, who taught 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.319 at the law school, is now sitting in quote her 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.120 congressional seat while she's stuck back at the law school 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.080 and he's not going anywhere anytime soon because Prop fifty 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.640 drew him a district that is very difficult. I mean, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.040 Jenny ray LaRue, who ran for governor, is now the 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.320 nominee against Dave Min. But for her to be successful, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.720 Republicans in Congress have to expand the playing field, and 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.480 it's going to take a lot for them to go 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.400 after she's, you know, and not just defend the one 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.559 they have. But yeah, I could see her run for 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.760 county supervisor in a few years, or you know, you 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.760 you know, you just you know, maybe she'll sit around 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.959 and burn incense and hope that somehow Elizabeth Warren will 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.600 become a cabinet secretary in somebody's administration so she can 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.240 get appointed and you know, be yell cusswords with people 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.040 that aren't doing. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:16.760 The job right. Matt Mayhan. It was the darling of 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:22.000 Silicon Valley also saw his support evaporate. He did four 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.160 point one percent according to the last posted numbers from 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.960 the Secretary of State. I felt like Silicon Valley played 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.679 this all wrong, Matt Mayhan. I get it was their 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.520 number one choice. He's from San Jose, They're familiar with him, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.720 They're happy with his performance as mayor. However, at a 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.400 certain point it became obvious that it just wasn't working out. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.160 If they took some of that money and used it 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:55.720 to uplift via Ragosa and uplift Bianco, maybe you would 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.760 have gotten two Republicans onto the November ballot, and that 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.600 could have been their plan B. But they never cut 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.360 bait on him. They stuck with him the entire time, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.400 even when it became obvious that it just wasn't going 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:07.920 to happen. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.240 You know, I think that's a good point. And I 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.480 also think I heard somebody else make this observation last night, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:17.880 and I think I kind of agree with that. I 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.280 think one of I mean, I always felt there were 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.679 two reasons why Mayheon did not really catch fire. One 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.320 of which is that he has all the charisma of 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.120 oatmeal without the brown sugar. Right, So that's that's item 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.760 number one. But then the second point is I think 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.120 that there is a growing sense of apprehension on the 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.080 right end of the left of big tech and AI 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.680 and chat bots and what is that all going to mean? 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.920 And I think there's a group of people that are like, 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.520 I don't know who I want for governor, but that 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.640 guy's bought and paid for by big tech, and I 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.720 don't want to have somebody who's the big tech guy 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.760 being our governor. I think that factors into it as well. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.439 Either way. You know, he, like Katie Porter, isn't going anywhere, right, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:04.559 He'll go back to San Jose and consider Prossessor Sam Lecardo, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.120 the former mayor of San Jose, is now squatting on 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.880 the House seat, so there's really no place for him 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.920 to run for Congress. So I'm sure he'll be back. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:17.160 We'll see him somewhere doing something and maybe I don't know, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.320 if they have termlinits in San Jose, maybe he'll just 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.960 stay the mayor there for a while. But you know, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.440 unless that guy can go to Charms School, unless that 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.480 guy can figure out, you know, how to actually elevate 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.160 his pulse above forty on a stage. I don't think 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.440 that guy's ready for prime time because well, I think 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.320 that there is a sense of voters that you want 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.360 somebody who's a sure, steady hand. Oh my god, you 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.080 don't want somebody who puts you to sleep. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.800 No, And I also think part of his problem was 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.760 that he didn't look like a governor. But Sarah looks 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.200 like a governor Mayhand in person. At least when I 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.280 saw him at one of the debates, he looked like 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.280 a teenager. He looked like he was writing that sweet 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.280 spot for the Lincoln Project guys. And I think that 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.920 people look at that and they just don't see a governor, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.440 and that's part of his problem. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.800 Yeah, I agree with that completely. And so again, this 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.720 is one of those guys. His candidacy, you know, sounded 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.120 great policy wise to a bunch of wealthy people, and 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.120 they wanted to run him like a tech startup. And 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.360 you know, the bad news for Mayheon is is he 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.200 got the people invested in him are the kind of 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.160 people that like, well, I guess that investment didn't pay 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.560 off and they're onto the next thing, right, and you know, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.560 he's going to have to ultimately figure out you know, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.600 you know, I mean, look at all the money that 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.480 was spent and look at the vote that he got, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.000 and you have to just have to realize that, you know, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.880 like I said, oatmeal without the brown sugar. There's nothing 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.400 sweet about it. It's just really boring. And and I've 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.120 not met him in person, but based on your short 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.120 description of him, it's not very impressive. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:59.800 Gavin Newsom did not endorse a candidate for governor this 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:05.280 time around. However, he did un He had a classless 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.240 response last night. I don't know if you saw it. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.040 This kind of got lost in the noise, but through 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.840 his spokesman, Isy Gardone, he put out a statement put 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.200 out a tweet where he slammed some of the Democrats 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.400 who lost the election last night, including Katie Porter, Met Mahon, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.600 and Antonio Vieregosa. The tweet said, quote, the candidates for 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.440 governor who spent the most time attacking Gavin Newsom were 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:34.240 the first to concede. Bye bye. Yeah. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.400 Well there you go, right, So Gavin Newsom got the 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.440 one thing he wanted. I mean, at the end of 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.880 the day, he wanted somebody who's running for governor, and 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.440 who will be governor who will be reticent to run 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.160 against Newsom's record. He doesn't need somebody while he's pursuing 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.640 the White House to have a governor in California who 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.720 was saying, Hey, I can't get my job done because 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.920 Newsom screwed it up on his way out the door, right, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.960 he can't have that. And Steyer would have done that 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.400 in a heart. Syrah would have said, oh, you know what, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.440 you know Newsom, you know doesn't Newsom was terrible. I'm 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.680 going to fix everything. But Sarah is not wired that way. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.359 But Sarah will surround himself with Newsom's people. As a 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.080 matter of fact, Newsom's political people already went to Bessara 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.320 to help lift him. You know, yes, the kind of 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.119 like with Swallwell. I don't think the governor endorsed Swowell, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.360 but he sent his people to elect Swalwell. And then 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.560 when Swallwell imploded, some of his people then went over 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.200 and helped Besera. Because of course it's all one big intra, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:37.240 you know, mural. They all incestuous, you know thing over there. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.159 And so I think, you know, Newsom's pretty happy right 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.320 now because Besarah laying low. You know, one of the 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.639 features of laying low which I think they will figure 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.119 out the uh. I don't think they will call it 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.360 the Phillips strategy. I'll call it the Phillip strategy. Uh. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.080 That Phillips strategy works great because he wants he will 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.359 want to be low key to get elected, and Gavin 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.240 Newsom wants him to be low key because Gavin Newsom 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.399 wants to take full advantage of the last seven months 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.480 of his governorship to still be the governor of California 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.000 to delegates of a national convention for Democrats that is 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:16.440 two years hidden, so you know, so you know, Gavin 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.920 Newsom could It's hard for me to think about somebody 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.280 that was running for governor that would have been a 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:28.400 better choice for Newsom than Xavier Versera is it or Xavier? 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:29.720 It's probably Faber. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.880 I've always pronounced it Javier, but when you look at 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:37.280 it on paper, it reads like Xavier. Yeah. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.040 Well, I guess you know, maybe somebody who's listening to 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.399 this program can call in and let us know, because 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.280 I don't think Psarah is going to call either one 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:46.119 of us to let us know. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.719 There used to be a player for the Seattle supersonic McDaniel. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.560 John, we could start right now, Xavier Hobbyer, whatever your 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.040 name is, we invite you to come on to the 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.680 John Phillips Show talk about your candidacy, and we could 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.360 start off by telling us how to say your damn name. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.359 Rub it. Well, we know that Joe Biden could have 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:10.200 pronounced it right. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.919 For Secretary of Health and Education is over. I nominated 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.640 Hobbier Bakaria. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.080 Well, there you go, and apparently he never learned his 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.520 name the entire time the man worked for him. John Fleischman, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:32.680 publisher of sodesitmatter dot com on California politics. You can 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.760 get them online at sodoesitmatter dot com. John Fleischman, thanks 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:37.720 so much for stopping by. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.960 Thanks for all the great things you say and do. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.720 My friend eight hundred two two two five two two 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.080 two is the telephone number one eight hundred two two 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.080 two five two two two. If you'd like to email 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.119 the show, you can do so at Johnny Don't Like 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.880 Show gmail dot com. That's Johnny Don't Like Show at 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:02.280 gmail dot com. And Randy. 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