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Following the Giants victory over the Philadelphia 7 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Philly second series winn of the year, they got four 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: wins now, Darren. 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Heyd not too bad for those Giants. 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 4: And two's a streak. 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you called a streak. 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 4: They're going straight. Three is a streak. 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Let's se if they can make a three on Friday 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: as they hit the road, first East Coast road trip 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: of the year, going out to take on the Baltimore Oriole. 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: They so a good company, coaches. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: And when it comes to four wins, we got the 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 5: Boston Red Sox, we got the Detroit Tigers, we got 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 5: the Seattle Mariners. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: It's you know, not bad. Oh, five wins? My bad though? 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: There there all those teams. Then never mind, I got 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: the five words. 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: Did I say four? They had five? 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Five wins? 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I guess there were four after yesterday. Sorry, I forgot 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: they played yesterday. My mistake. I said, four there five. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: Do you remember the caller we had yesterday? It was 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: all good vibes, dude, Keith Love. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Keith Love man. 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: He didn't have the voice to back up the name, 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 5: but I did like the name Keith Love. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Yes, he was positive. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Somebody checked it on the somebody checked it on the 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: the tax on earlier and said, giants are two or no. 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Since Keith Love called dirty work. 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: That is true. So if you know, mark him down 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: and see if he's free for the parade. 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Them they might have actually said, give the Keith Love arrow. 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: We're living dude, We're living in a Keith Love era. 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: What was just like what what was his line yesterday? 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: We're just like, hey, come on, man, once these guys 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: see each other, they got that, they. 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Got a gel. They gotta get more chemistry together. He's like, dude, 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: these guys are coming. Man, these guys are badass, because 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: who had some badass. 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: Hitters on this team? Is what he said. Dude. He 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: was like, they just gotta gell Man again. 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Keep the vibes going, and don't forget he segment national 49 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: Anthem in a route to a Giants title back in 50 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: twenty ten, So. 51 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: That is true. Okay, do you think they have they 52 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: have badass hitters? 53 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: Is that how you would categorize this lineup copes with 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: badass hitters? 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: It's badass one word or two, because if you said 56 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: bad ass hitters, then I might agree. 57 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I think we lost cop sur for a second. 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 5: Let's go back out to the phone lines here talking 59 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: about the Giants win today five to nothing over the 60 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 5: Philadelphia Phillies. 61 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: Let's go to Gary in Marin County. Gary, you're on 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: dirty work. 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 6: Thank you, guys, enjoy you very much. You handle your 64 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 6: guests for a will, Having been in your line myself anyway, 65 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 6: what a lot of people forget about a catcher? Frankly, 66 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 6: I don't give a damn if he's hitting at all. 67 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 6: If all the pictures love the picture of this guy, 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: he really has that. And he's a tremendous defensive catcher, 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 6: one of us in the LaDue probably the best. This 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 6: guy is the CEO of the whole infield. He is 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: the brains, He's what makes it go. Somebody mentioned the 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 6: other day, well I was a college first baseman, and said, well, 73 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: the first basement is the most important decision other crazy. 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 6: It's pretty a park guy, for God's sakes. But don't 75 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: know where they're going to go. And but but I'd 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 6: love to know what the betting average of Johnny Bench, 77 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 6: Roseboro Yogi Bear of some of those guys. Boy, these 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 6: guys could. 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: Look it up. 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 6: I'd like to know what everything we're used to. A 81 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: great hitting catcher cap you know, that comes out of nowhere. 82 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: But it's it's as I said now, I won't say anymore. 83 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 6: I was at I was at the sixty to the seventeen. 84 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 6: At seventeen, both teams were loaded. My god, they were 85 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: loaded on both sides. 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: Probably one of the great great Yankee and Giants scenes, 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 6: maybe of all times. The illusion. 89 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: You know, Gary, and I appreciate the call man. 90 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I've he was going on about the catcher, 91 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 5: and I'm not sure what Gary actually was talking about. 92 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Let's move on here as we go to Dan impal Auto. 93 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: Dan, you're on with dirty work talking about Daniel Susack. 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: What's going on? 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 8: Thank you? Good to talk to you guys. About an 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 8: hour ago. You said something that totally peaked my interest, 97 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 8: and I need to find out more what you meant. 98 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 8: You can displayed portrayed a scenario in which Patrick Bailey 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 8: is catching and Daniel Sussack is the designated hitter. 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: Yes, he said. 101 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 8: If Patrick Bailey gets injured, Susack has to go to 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 8: become the catcher and we lose the DH. Does that 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 8: mean we only have eight batters in the lineup? 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: No, no, coach, take you. You have this thought, go 105 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: for it. 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: So what happens is the picture spot then has to hit. 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 8: Does that mean the pitcher has to hit? 108 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it means there's a pitcher spot. So you lose 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: the DH, meaning the DH spot now turns into your catcher. 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: Right. 111 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: So let's let's say Patrick Bailey's hitting ninth and Daniel 112 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Seussacks hitting eighth, and Bailey's the catcher and Susak is 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: the DH. 114 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: So let's say Patrick Bailey. 115 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: Then catches a foul tip off his hand and he's 116 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: got to leave the game. You need a catcher. So 117 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: what happens is you've got to put Patrick. You've got 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: to take your designated hitter and put him at catcher. 119 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: If you move your designated hitter at any point to 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: another position on the field, you lose the ability to 121 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: have the designated hitter so you use it until you 122 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: don't and then you lose it. So then they've got 123 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: to put a ninth batter out there. The ninth batter 124 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: now is not You've got all eight positions fielded except 125 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: for pitcher, right, So now the pitcher spot would go 126 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: into where Patrick Bailey hit if he was in the 127 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: nine hole or the eight hole, or wherever he was 128 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: in the lineup. So whoever the active pitcher is now 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: is set up to hit. So if it happens early 130 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: in the game, you've got a picture hitting for the duration. 131 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: If it happens late in the game, then you got 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: to your bench like an old National League game, which 133 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: some of us would say, I welcome that. 134 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: That'd be a lot of fun. It would be a 135 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: really tough situation to be in. 136 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: And it's also why you generally don't burn your backup 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: catcher as a pinch hitter rather. 138 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 8: Right, Well, you know, since we went to the DHS 139 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 8: in the National League, have have pitchers stopped practicing batting 140 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 8: at all? Or did they ever? 141 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Uh, we gotta run down. I appreciate the call. No, 142 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: they've stopped. I mean, there's no point they never have 143 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: to hit. There'd be no purpose in them hitting a 144 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phone lines here, Matt 145 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: is on the one oh one. 146 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: What I'm Matt, You're on the Sports Leader day. 147 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 6: What's going on? 148 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 7: Boys? 149 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: Probably doing well? 150 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: Met up? Dude? What's up? 151 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 6: So? 152 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 7: First of all, Coach, you got to get your ass together, man, 153 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: mission impossible. It is a lot of fun. 154 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh dude, I'm not. I'm not opposed. I got it. 155 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: I know, dude. 156 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, bro, I it's it's a an obvious over 157 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: oversight by me. 158 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: It's something I need to do. 159 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: But I'm like, I want to watch them all and 160 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: I think they're all on like HBO or something like that. 161 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: They're all available. 162 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 5: But you would understand the Patrick Bailey mass reference if 163 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: you saw the movie Coach. 164 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: I don't. 165 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I think I get it in all in. 166 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 7: All fairness, the pop's not selling it very well. 167 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 168 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: Go ahead, here's that was That was good. So here's 169 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 7: my thing about about the catcher situation. I'd like to 170 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 7: hear you guys on this. But my thought is, you know, 171 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 7: pitch framing, uh, throwing down signs right, sort of being 172 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 7: that quer back if you will, and sort of running 173 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 7: the game from that position. I don't know how how 174 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 7: much that how viable that is anymore, right, I mean, 175 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 7: I know it's still a big part of the game. 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 7: And give me somebody who can hit. I'll take a 177 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 7: guy who can catch, who can catch baseballs from pitchers 178 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 7: and throw down a second base, right, and he's not 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 7: gonna have the pop time that it Bailey's got. But 180 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 7: if he's got a bat, if you're putting two more 181 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 7: runs up on the board, does it how much does 182 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 7: it matter that your picture likes throwing to this guy? 183 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: I hear you on that front. I'm out. 184 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: My counter to that is, are you so sure, Daniel 185 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: Susach is that guy two games in? 186 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: No? 187 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: No, And I'm not I'm not saying it's Sue sac 188 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 7: I'm just saying in general, hear like, we hang on 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 7: to Pat Bailey right for for what he can't hit. 190 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 7: He's valuable, but is he as valuable as somebody who 191 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 7: can hit? 192 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 4: And you know what I mean? I hear you on that. 193 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: I hear you on that. Yeah, I appreciate the call, man. 194 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: I guess part of it to me comes back to 195 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: the the statement I was making the other day that 196 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: if Patrick Bailey is the focal point of the frustration 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: of the offense, or is a is a major point 198 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: of frustration, then it. 199 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: Means other guys around him aren't hitting. 200 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: I mean, to the point of Patrick Bailey, it's we're 201 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: not having this conversation right now about Lee or about 202 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: bid or how come that? How come that's the case? 203 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: That's not the case, you know what I mean. Those 204 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: guys are hitting just as poorly, But because we've seen 205 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more in there, I don't know, hard 206 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: contact or whatever it is, we like it more like 207 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Bater's on the interstate. 208 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: Bailey's on the interstate. You've got jung wholee. 209 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: You can't hit the ball out of the infield seemingly 210 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: right now, like there's a bunch of guys and because 211 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: they're all bunched up together at the bottom of the lineup, 212 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: it all just looks like an automatic out when you 213 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: get to the seven, eight, nine spots, and those are 214 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: important positions to turn the lineup back over and get 215 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: guys on base. Four devers and a damas and choppming 216 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: and whatnot. So I get that it's because it's been 217 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: Bailey now for a number of years. But Chung Wholee's 218 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: out here hitting a buck forty and he comes up 219 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, Chong Li, I know Chong Bailey comes 220 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: up and they're like, get me, Sue Sack. I'm like, 221 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: all right, well, who's helping you? 222 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: More right? Well, we've seen it, Bailey. 223 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: But copest to that point that we've seen a clear 224 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: alternative to Patrick Bailey. We don't have that with with Harris, 225 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 5: with Harrison Bader or Jung hou Lee. And I hear 226 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: you like, it's it's way too early to be seeing 227 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: these things about Daniel Sussik that he should be the 228 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: everyday catcher, he should take the position from Patrick Bailey. 229 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: It's just, yes, I get it. 230 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: The last two games you see Daniel Sussack before and 231 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: Patrick Bailey. Yes, with the exception of a few clutch 232 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: hits every now and then, Patrick Bailey hasn't done much 233 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 5: at the plate. He's a great catcher, but yes, he 234 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 5: leaves a lot to be desired offensively. 235 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: So I go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. 236 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, let me offer you this 237 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: to everybody saying this is who he could be. He's 238 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: a better offensive option. He did handle the pat really 239 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: well in four years of the miners. He's got a 240 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: career OPS and the minors of seven eighty five and 241 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: he was a career two to eighty hitter in the 242 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: minor leagues with SUSAC. Now three hundred and thirty two 243 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: strikeouts to ninety nine walks. So we have not seen 244 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 2: the strikeout rigorates head yet for Daniel Sussack. But this 245 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: is something that has been a problem for him. Now 246 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: he's put the ball in play a lot again, a 247 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: three forty one OVP. These are all numbers that if 248 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: he was doing this at the big league level for 249 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: the Giants, he'd be the everyday catcher. Ken he sustained 250 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: that at this level will the strikeouts become a problem again? 251 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: The sample size is not big enough yet, the same 252 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: as everybody said, who were saying, oh, eleven games is 253 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: two small of a sample size to be upset about 254 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: what's going on with the Giants, I'd say it's too 255 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: small of a sample size to say put put him 256 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: in there every day. 257 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: But you're riding that it's more tied to. 258 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: What Bailey's not doing than I think it is even 259 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: about what Sue Sex is doing. 260 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 5: No, absolutely, and that's always the case, when you know 261 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 5: the guy that you see every day is not performing, 262 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: it's easy to go to the replacement. This is a 263 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 5: this is a total you know, backup quarterback situation where 264 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 5: Daniel suss the hot guy that filled that filled in 265 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: for two two games, and you're like, wow, this guy 266 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: can take over and be the new the new quarterback 267 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 5: of the team. 268 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 3: What are we laughing about? Hot guy? 269 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: Daniel su Sacks, the hot guy, he's the he's the 270 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: guy we gotta go to. Man. 271 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: In a way, it came be ours the number to 272 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: call and the number actually just maybe maybe laugh, let's 273 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: go to Jack. 274 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Jack is an oak liming up kid. You're on the 275 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: sports leader a coach. What's up, Jack? 276 00:11:53,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 9: I'm good Habby the Giants finally won series after But 277 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 9: maybe this is Daniel Susachs Like, I mean, it's great starts. 278 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: To big leagues. 279 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 9: But I think Patrick Bailey, if you pinch hit him 280 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 9: for Susack, he could just be a good pinch hit guy. 281 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 9: Then get him into the lineup and clutch situations, play 282 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 9: defense in the ninth. 283 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about that the other 284 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: day too. I was talking with Marcus the Waterboy about that. 285 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: We're saying, would you start using him as a pinch 286 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: hit or late then putting him in for Bailey. It's 287 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: interesting because usually late in games you want to get 288 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: more defense into the game, and that's what Bailey. 289 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: Would be good for. 290 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Are you saying you'd put Susack in late and replace 291 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: Bailey with him in the later parts of games to 292 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: get to get more clutch at bats in there. 293 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I mean high leverage situations. I'd probably do 294 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 9: the opposite, actually, because Patrick Bailey is a dog in 295 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 9: those high leverage situations. 296 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was last year at a couple of big 297 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: walkoff hits. Is that I mean, do you do you 298 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: view the offense for the catchers as a pro a 299 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: merry point of focus for the Giants right now? 300 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: Or is it? For me? 301 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: It's about the other guys, It's about Baiter, It's about 302 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: Jack Hoolee. Like, if Bailey's the focus of our frustration, 303 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of other stuff going on 304 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: that's problematic. 305 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, the excuse that keeps up, like being 306 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 9: a contact here like he is right now, and you 307 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 9: have like that bat in the middle of the lineup 308 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 9: that can set up if bater gets hot or John 309 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 9: gets hot. 310 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, last last one for you, Jack, real quick. Have 311 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: you have you seen Mission Impossible? 312 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 9: Well, you gotta see them, man. 313 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: Chas what he's talking about. 314 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call that he said you got to 315 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: see those man. I love that dude. Thanks for the call, 316 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Jack call anytime knows what he's talking about. I like 317 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: him going to Pat. Bailey's a dog in those high 318 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: leverage situations. 319 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, dude, the kid is. 320 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: A good call. 321 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 10: Man. 322 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: It's got a Pete. Pete's in San Jose. We's talk 323 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: some pen talking on the sports. 324 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how's it going pretty good? 325 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 7: Hey? 326 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 11: I was actually I love what you said about Lee. 327 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 11: I think people need to put their bias aside because 328 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 11: people I think when we signed them, we didn't have 329 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 11: a Dominis, we didn't have dev So he was he's 330 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 11: probably the biggest player from Korea. But the guy hasn't 331 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 11: been good and he gets all this hype around him. 332 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 11: It's like if his name was Brandon Pajemski would kick 333 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 11: him out around you, like literally, if you look at 334 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 11: his stats his name was John Wilson, you know it 335 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 11: would be a different conversation. That's just a. 336 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and and I want him to do good. 337 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 11: I wanted to say I want him to succeed, but 338 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 11: it is funny how it's like Pat Pat Bailey wins 339 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 11: gold gloves and he brings a lot of value, and 340 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 11: that I I am. I'm definitely like of the mindset, 341 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 11: like we have to have the conversation at some point, 342 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 11: becaus the dude is a terrible hitter. But at the 343 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 11: same time it is crazy. It's the knee jerk world 344 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 11: we live in where you want to I love watching Susac, 345 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 11: but it's two games, dude out of one sixty two. 346 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 11: Like relax, It's more of a it's more of a 347 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 11: conversation about what Bailey's not doing than what Susac is doing, 348 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 11: because Bailey has never been a good hitter at any 349 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 11: point in his career. Maybe a little stretches, but never 350 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 11: over like a complete season. But yeah, on the bullpen situation, 351 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 11: the bullpen is is going to be a disaster if 352 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 11: they don't do anything about it. It was already thin 353 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 11: before we lost Randy Rodriguez and Bhutto. I was actually 354 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 11: looking at our prospect list. So after Eldridge, two through 355 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 11: five are all shortstops. Yeah, he's got to think they 356 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 11: gotta like the kinder stacked prospects. I mean, it's good 357 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 11: to have a good farms oftem. It's cool that we 358 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 11: have four top one hundred guys, but you can't slash 359 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 11: four shortstops when you have another short stop that's going 360 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 11: to be here for another five or six years as well. 361 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 11: So would you guys, you'd have to think they're going 362 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 11: to do something at the deadline or sooner. Having that, like, 363 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 11: I don't think you can sit on these prospects. You 364 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 11: need to use. 365 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: We got to run in. I appreciate the call. 366 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I'm not there yet because we're it's 367 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, what is it April eighth or something like that. 368 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: It's like too early to be thinking trade in my 369 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: mind in that situation, and who knows what's available. Also, 370 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: do you want to trade a prospect for some rental reliever? 371 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: Where are the giants? Come deadline time? You don't trade 372 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: just to make a trade. And we're kind of in 373 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: the mode now where if you were going to trade 374 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: somebody of top one hundred prospect magnitude, you're getting yourself 375 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: a player like Rafiel Devers, right, you're trading big time 376 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: talent that's potential, big time talent, to go get somebody 377 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: who's controllable and who you've got for the foreseeable future, 378 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: not giving away the top hundred prospect to go get 379 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: a you know, a closer who's going to be here 380 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: for a couple of years. So I think their preference 381 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: is that Randy Rodriguez comes back healthy next year and 382 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: maybe they get something that could be a rental for 383 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: them or a stop gap for them this year. They've 384 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: also got to figure out what else is down there 385 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: and could be a factor out of the bullpen this season. 386 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: So is that a possibility. 387 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: Sure, I think you'd be more likely to see them 388 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: trade one of those pieces for like a long term 389 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: starting pitcher, you know what I mean, a dude who 390 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: they think they could control and lock up beyond this year, 391 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: where you don't have Robbie Rank coming back potentially next season. 392 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: Howser and Molly aren't long term options. We'll see what 393 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: happens with the rupe, but I think you're looking for 394 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: something more controllable if you're gonna move a prospect to 395 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: that caliber, and really right now, it's about inventory and 396 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: how so I don't think this bullpen is gonna stay 397 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: as currently constructed. But if you were gonna you were 398 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: gonna ask me who leads the giants and saves this year. 399 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: I think he's a guy who's probably already on the roster, 400 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: that would be, and maybe even already in the bullpen. 401 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: That would be my thought. 402 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: ANOA KMBR is a number to call and detext Adam 403 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: Copeland t pop with you. By the way, just the 404 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: underachieving nature of Jong Huli. Do you know what his 405 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: career batting average was in Korea? 406 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: What was it? 407 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: Dude? 408 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: Three forty oh and an eight fifty career ops. Dude, 409 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: that's like, that's not what he's doing here. No, in fact, 410 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: in fact, that's the opposite of what he's doing here. 411 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 2: He like never struck out and you like never had 412 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: a year where he struck out more than he walked 413 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: in Korea. And now it's that's tough man, tough to 414 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: get me hit out of the infield. Adam Copeland deepop 415 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: with you? 416 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: Are we is it? 417 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: Next? 418 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: We're catching up with Andy. 419 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: Bagley No five any five thirty? Excuse me, Andy Bagoli 420 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: are joined us at five thirty? When we come on 421 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: back a little bit more from you guys on your calls, 422 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: and a sound soiree featuring Raymond ken Rosenthal saying the 423 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: Giants are under some pressure and so is Tony Vatello. 424 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: Also John Harbaugh checked in, we'll talk about this next 425 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: in the sound soiree on the Hero On the Sports Leader. 426 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: Dirty Work on a Wednesday, Adam Copeland Derek Poppel will 427 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 5: be joined by Andy Bagley in about ten minutes talk 428 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: about the giants last two wins win the series over 429 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Phillies. 430 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: I believe we're gonna get to. 431 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 5: A little sounds, soare here, so let's hear the best 432 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 5: sounds you might not have might not have heard. 433 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: Please, he's thirty works sound. 434 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 11: No, I've whipped up this nasty little the. 435 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Best sounds you might have missed? 436 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: Spar What hard be Sports. 437 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: Leader right for Wednesday, April twenty six? And where are 438 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: we starting with this Erica. 439 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: With the suare? I guess where's it? 440 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: Where's it starting today? 441 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: I guess we could start with Tyler Mallee. 442 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: He just uh just met up with the media post game, 443 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: and I guess just calling out uh guys like you 444 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: and me coaches that said that people overreacted to the 445 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: three and seven start with the Giants. 446 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: Let's hear from Tyler Mallee. 447 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 9: We had the ability to win some of those games, 448 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 9: you know, and we just we just missed it by 449 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 9: just a by just a touch. 450 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 12: So if some at the ball rolls all right in 451 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 12: a couple those games, you. 452 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: Know, we're looking at it. 453 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 12: We're sitting in a different spot, like you know, everyone's 454 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 12: you know, kind of because you started out three and. 455 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 6: Seven or whatever, but it could have easily been had 456 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 6: different stories. 457 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 7: So no, I think we're feeling good and ready to 458 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 7: go have a good road track. 459 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: Everybody's pooping on the Giants. Cope's pooping. So Tyler mall. 460 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Everybody's you said, everybody's assing on us. Well not everybody, dude, 461 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: just the Yanks and the Mets. Yeah, you know what 462 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: I mean. 463 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, what what do you mean? I like what 464 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: he's like. Yeah, people are ever reacting to three and 465 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: seven start? 466 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: You know the ball by the way, those losses were 467 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: not like the ball bounced the other way, dog. 468 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: No, they were getting rolled. No, the twenty six. 469 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: They were a minus twenty six in run differential through 470 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: those ten and it was like the worst ever for 471 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: the Giants since moving to San Francisco, going back to 472 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: what nineteen fifty or something we were talking about in 473 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: terms of their run differential and their poor start. So no, 474 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: I disagree, respectfully, Molly. And by the way, broad nice 475 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: came today, Wait a sling it good work, you. 476 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Know, that's all I got. 477 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm with you, like the way we 478 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: started the show and saying like, yes, if they're three 479 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: and eight and they're losing games by one run, then yeah, okay, 480 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: it's it's it's a rough start, but it is what 481 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 5: it is. 482 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: The ball bounces that way. 483 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: You're getting dominated by the Yankees, are getting dominated by 484 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: the Mets, and those are good teams, but it's just 485 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: the way that they looked where the offense was lifeless, 486 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 5: the bullpen was not performing against the Mets. And now 487 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: it looks good the last two games. But keep it 488 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: up and then people will stop insing on you. 489 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: Moving on here in the sound, Yeah, keep it up. 490 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: And he's uh, he looked really good. I thought today 491 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: he did. Said his last start, he looked pretty good 492 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: as well. Moving on here in the sound, sir, let's 493 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: go to Raymond Fraymon was asked about it by Anthony 494 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: Slater VESPN about his excitement level for the play in game. 495 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: How hype are you for the play in framon? 496 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: Here you go. 497 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 13: I know in the past you haven't loved just you know, 498 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 13: how stuck in the playing at times you all have 499 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 13: been in the last five years. But this year, you 500 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 13: know you're now locked into ten. But because of the 501 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 13: play in you know you have a chance still to 502 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 13: get into the playoffs. I mean, how do you kind 503 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 13: of view next week and the you. 504 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: Know, the exc it's not well, you know, I'm a competitor, 505 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: so go onto the game, do all I can win. 506 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: But it's not that exciting. 507 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 13: Do you think he'll be excited next week when you 508 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 13: have two do or die road games that you know 509 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 13: they'll be on big stages. 510 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 4: Well, listen, you go on the road in a game 511 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 4: that you need to win. I think you know, as 512 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: a competitor, you're gonna ross and challenge, you know. But 513 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sleep tomorrow night, like, man, we 514 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: got to play in next week. I gotta get my rest, right. No, 515 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: it ain't that exciting. No, who's less? 516 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: Go ahead, No, I'm I'm I'm a Draymond Where yes, 517 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 5: it's a playing game and it's basically a playoff game. 518 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: But no, the Warriors, dude, they've been there, done that, 519 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: They've won four championships. They don't want to be in 520 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: the play in and yes they have to be, so 521 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 5: they're gonna be competitive, and Draymond's gonna be there, and 522 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: STEP's gonna be there and and Steve and everybody's gonna 523 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: take it seriously. But no, the mentality is like, yes, 524 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: last year, we were in a playing game. 525 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: Years ago, they were in a playing game. 526 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 5: Tired of this, they need to you know that next 527 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: year needs to be about finishing as a top six seed. 528 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 5: I definitely understand what Draymond's talking about because. 529 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: As a fan, I'm not excited about a playing game. 530 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: Now, That's what I'm saying. Who's less excited for him 531 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 4: on or me? 532 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 533 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: Probably not exciting. 534 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: It's not because, like, honestly, like they're gonna finish, you know, 535 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 5: either they finish at five hundred or they're below five hundred, 536 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 5: and you shouldn't be rewarded with that. I understand that 537 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: stuff has gone a good deal of time and everything 538 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: going on with the injury. You know, most Moody came 539 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 5: back last night and that was a good ovation for him, 540 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler gone for most of the season. But let's 541 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 5: not act like this season was a success for the 542 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: Golden State Warriors. I understand it was hell with all 543 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: the injuries, but a play in just doesn't seem right 544 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 5: to me. So yes, they're gonna do it, and they'll 545 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 5: probably lose because all these teams that are in the 546 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 5: playing are younger and possibly better than them. Because the 547 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: Warriors barely beat a poor Kings team last night. 548 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: Well, as I said to Ted Ramy the other day, 549 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: the Warriors are kind of like the Warriors in the 550 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: player are kind of like the A's in the wildcard game. 551 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: They they still have a whole lot of success when 552 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: it comes to the That's. 553 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: That's just not a fair comparison. 554 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: They'll come on, yeah, you're right, because the Warriors have 555 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: won one in the exactly. 556 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, the A's. 557 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: Actually never won a wildcard Ye, they never did. Oh 558 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: and three what they do? They went Yankee, Well they 559 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: went Royals Yankees and race. 560 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: It was Royals, Yeah it was it was the I 561 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: mean the worst one was twenty nineteen with Sham and 562 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: I on the mount against the Rays. And yes, they 563 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 5: they've they've won playoffs series. The worst one, I think 564 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: so in my opinion. 565 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the one against the Royals was 566 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: worse because that was the year they traded Cesspitus and 567 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: John Lester started that game and they couldn't. 568 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: They didn't win it. Yeah, yeah, that's why they made 569 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: the trade. 570 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but in the end, the Royals went to 571 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 5: the World Series that year, and yes, the the A's 572 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: just imploded that year, but they were away. You can 573 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: justify the loss because they went onto the World Series. 574 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 5: The Yankees they were they were never at the same 575 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 5: level as them. The Rays, they should have won that 576 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 5: game and they they just totally pooped the bed that night. 577 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: So to me, the worst loss was in twenty nineteen. 578 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: Kind of incredible that the Royals won back to back penance, right, Yeah, 579 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: they went to the World Series in fourteen and in fifteen. 580 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: They beat the Mets. In twenty fifteen, right, is that right? 581 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 582 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: I think so is Mets. Royals. 583 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, went to the World Series. Yeah, that was pretty 584 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: incredible that they went back to back years. I was 585 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: the same sort of thing. Two teams the Giants beat 586 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: in their three World Series runs, one back to back penance, 587 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: the Rangers went the Giants beat him again. They went 588 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: ten and eleven and lost them both brutal, eleven to 589 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: the to the Cardinals. Moving on in the sound swear, 590 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: here's Ken Rosendal. Ken Rosendal says the Giants are under 591 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: some pressure, and so is Tony v tell it. Don't 592 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: tell Tyler Molly that. Here's here's Ken Rosendahal on the Giants. 593 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 10: And I rode Friday that for the Giants, there's some 594 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 10: pressure there, there's some urgency. They just fired their manager, 595 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 10: who had a five hundred record, who three time manager 596 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 10: of the Year, Bob Melvin. 597 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: We all understood it. 598 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 10: They seemed kind of lethargic, he did at the end. 599 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 10: But they hired Tony Vayteller with the expectation that they're 600 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 10: going to be better, and ultimately they might be better, 601 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 10: but offensively too. Here we go with the Giants lowest 602 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 10: scoring team in the majors. Twenty six runs in ten 603 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 10: games so far. That's an average of two point six 604 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 10: runs per game. I'm terrible at mathmen that much I 605 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 10: can figure out. So the Giants, I'm not quite sure 606 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 10: where they are just yet. And again new manager, they're 607 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 10: trying to find themselves. It's way early and their rotation 608 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 10: should be okay. But we sold bullpen problems yesterday on Sunday, 609 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 10: and we've seen an offense that with some big names. Devers, Chapman, 610 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 10: Arise hasn't done much at all, and Chapman four errors 611 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 10: this week. It's kind of interesting that that happened after 612 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 10: he aired out Casey Schmid on the mound the other day, 613 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 10: telling me to catch the bleeping ball. But Chapman did 614 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 10: not have a great defensive week. The Giants have not 615 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 10: played especially solid defense all around. So here's a team 616 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 10: we'll be watching all year. And I know are saying, Wow, 617 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 10: Tony Bayitello news conferences, they're really cool. 618 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: He does a lot of cool stuff he does. 619 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 10: But if you don't win, all that is not so 620 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 10: cool anymore. 621 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean, all that's fair. I get what he's saying. 622 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: There's pressure. 623 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: There's pressure because Tony Vitello is gonna be dissected with 624 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: every press conference and every decision because he's new with 625 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: this and this team. Yes, you know, a year ago 626 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: there were expectations of Rafael Devers and that doesn't change. 627 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 5: But just Tony Vitello being there now since that time. 628 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 5: Obviously that clips dated because they've performed better late. But yes, 629 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: there is a lot of pressure with the Giants. I 630 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: don't know really who's gonna feel it. Like obviously the 631 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 5: leaders on the team Logan web Rafield Devers need to perform, 632 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: but it's not like Buster Posey or if Tony Vitello 633 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: are gonna be on the chopping block if they don't 634 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: make the postseason. Here, so I understand what he's saying, 635 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: but like pressure, yeah, but they're feeling it from themselves too. 636 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't feel like he really added anything there. 637 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: He just kind of told me what I watched the 638 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: Giants do this week, and I was like, okay. 639 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: This is an inside that you didn't give me anything 640 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: insider based. 641 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: And by the way, was this whole thing like he 642 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: doesn't have any grasp with a fan base where he's like, 643 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: and I know the fans are saying, yeah, we love 644 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 2: these pressers with Tony, They're so interesting. 645 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: He says a lot of cool stuff, cool stuff. Yeah, man, if. 646 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 5: He's doing Conyrie references, he's doing Tiger Woods references, he's 647 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: cool man. 648 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah he's saying cool stuff. Yeah. 649 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: I uh, I don't think Rosenthal haded anything there. We'll 650 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: take a quick break out of cool with you. Yeah, 651 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: he always does. Giants got a victory against the Philadelphia 652 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: Philly second series win of the season. They hit the 653 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: road after an off day tomorrow. They will be in 654 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: Baltimore on Friday. Let's catch up with our Andy Baggerly 655 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: covers the Giants for the Athletic Bats joins us next 656 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: only here on the Sports Leader. 657 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: Say wow, Tony buy Tello News conferences. They're really cool. 658 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: He does a lot of cool stuff. 659 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: Dirty work. 660 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: On a Wednesday afternoon, the Giants with a series win, 661 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: their second series win of twenty twenty six in their 662 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: first series win at home. Here to talk about it 663 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: and he covers the Giants for the Athletic We do 664 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: it with him every week. It's Andrew Baggerley. Andy Baggerley 665 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: is sponsored by the Dolan Law Firm. They live here, 666 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: they work here, they win here. Dolan Law Firm dot 667 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: com bags. What's going on, man? How are you? 668 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 12: I'm doing well, just in the press box, trying to 669 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 12: finish up my story, but I'm happy to take some 670 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 12: time with you. How's everything with. 671 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: You going well? I guess I'm sitting like right. I 672 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: guess I'm right below you. 673 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: Is that well? I I guess I'm right right above you. 674 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly where you are, bads, but I'm 675 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm here, dude, I'm in the auxiliary. 676 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, I never know where you're, no, because the bunker's gone, 677 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 12: so the repurposed. 678 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you if you need popcorn, that's the 679 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: place to be, you know, down on that level. 680 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we are, we're in the broadcast something. 681 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 12: Always they've got like a donut donut card or they 682 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 12: got soft serve in there. I mean, where where was 683 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 12: all that before? You need all that in there before? 684 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 12: When you guys love recording. 685 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: It, I could have used it before when we were 686 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: sitting here after a ball game. 687 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: Would have been nice nice win for the Giants today 688 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: and a nice win for them last night. I guess 689 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: the first thing I want to ask about because a 690 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: lot of the listeners, and I'm sure you've seen people 691 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: on social media all all clamoring for more Daniel Sussak, 692 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: and he's had a pretty incredible start offensively to his 693 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: young career. Is there any plan you think for the 694 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: Giants to go that route to work him in to 695 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: get more consistent at bats. I mean, d hing isn't 696 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: really an option when you've only got one backup catcher. 697 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Are you getting the impression that they're looking to get 698 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: him more at bats in other places? 699 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: You know? 700 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: I think so. 701 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 12: I think at minimum it's become a pretty automatic decision 702 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 12: that he's gonna start against lefties or he should start 703 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 12: against you most lefties, and maybe they'll look at, you know, 704 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 12: giving him more starts day game after a night game. 705 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 12: You know, you know, Patrick Bailey to catch a lot 706 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 12: of innings last year, and you know it's not to 707 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 12: minimize you know, the importance that he has, and you 708 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 12: know just what he does defensively, but especially when the 709 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 12: team is struggling to score runs. You know, he's showing 710 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 12: someone who can really put the bat on the ball, 711 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 12: you know, and hit some Crispline drives. The Yeah, you 712 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 12: want more of that in there, But it's only two games. 713 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 12: You don't really overreact anything. But he did also have 714 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 12: a nice spring training. I thought it was pretty telling, 715 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 12: that potentially telling that all three of his hits came 716 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 12: with two strikes, and you know, this is a guy 717 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 12: who was available to the Giants and it was unprotected. 718 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 12: You know from the Rule five draft by the A's 719 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 12: principally because he struck out too much, you know, in 720 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 12: the upper miners, and so that was kind of a 721 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 12: nice sign that he can take two strike counts and 722 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 12: think opposite way against good pitchers. You know, he's got 723 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 12: a good, bad angle to his swing. I like the 724 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 12: fact that he can hit a ball that's down below 725 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 12: his own and still elevate it. You know, that's that's 726 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 12: a handy skill to have. So yeah, you know, it's 727 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 12: hard to use him as a bat other than very 728 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 12: very late in the game, obviously because he's the only 729 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 12: other catcher on the roster. But you know, maybe we 730 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 12: get to a position where Haeses Rodriguez hits his way 731 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 12: to the big leagues and he's a guy who can 732 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 12: come in and catch and and then you've got a 733 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 12: little more utility there. So you know, we all know 734 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 12: that the roster is generally not very static. It's going 735 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 12: to change over the course of the season. But I 736 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 12: think he is earning his way into a little bit 737 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 12: more of a prominent role. But again, it's two games. 738 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 12: It's really early. 739 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: Talking to Andy Beggley on the UMA guest line, good 740 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: performances from the bullpen the last two last two days, 741 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: and we know that coming into the season they were 742 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 5: a huge question mark, not good performances against the Mets. 743 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: But last night Ryan Walker and Keaton win and of 744 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: course to day Matt Gage, Caleb killian U lay Tidwell 745 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: and Eric Miller closing out. 746 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: What have you made of the bullpen the last two days? 747 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: And how long do you think it's going to be 748 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: until Tony Vaytelo starts to kind of air out the 749 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 5: defined roles for the bullpen. 750 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, so I'm kind of writing this in my story. 751 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 12: But and this this predates me. But there was like 752 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 12: this old board game, Milton Bradley board game called Mystery Date. 753 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 12: You know, mystery Yeah, ready to read it. Open the 754 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 12: door to your mystery. So I feel like that's the 755 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 12: bullpen right now. I mean, you open the door and 756 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 12: who's your mystery date? It could be Caleb killying against 757 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 12: left handers. WHOA, that's different, you know, But it worked out, 758 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 12: you know, so uh and if it hadn't worked out, then, 759 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 12: you know, Tony Vaitello would have been asked a lot 760 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 12: of questions about it. But you know, got some breakdown 761 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 12: swings from Schwarber, from Harper, So yeah, it worked out. 762 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 12: It was definitely in against the book play and and 763 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 12: and clearly I think they've they've had Eric Miller kind 764 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 12: of in a closer role the last two nights or 765 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 12: that's where they had planned to use him, So you know, 766 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 12: maybe they're hoping that he'll settle in there. Maybe they 767 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 12: can go with Walker and Miller in some sort of 768 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 12: tandement depending on, you know, what. 769 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: The matchups look like in the ninth. 770 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 12: Tony Votello's way of going about this is, I want 771 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 12: everybody to be ready to pitch all the time, to 772 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 12: always want the ball in every situation. And I mean 773 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 12: that's great, but it's also you know how Major League 774 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 12: believers are kind of creatures of habit and they want 775 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 12: to kind of have a good idea of when they're pitching, 776 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 12: and I I think there's a middle ground that can 777 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 12: be met there. But you know, even when you had 778 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 12: like some of the Gabe Kapito teams where you knew 779 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 12: that they were going to be super actively managed, you 780 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 12: still had people who kind of knew and they were 781 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 12: going to be pitching. Dom Leone knew and he was 782 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 12: going to be pitching you know, John Brevy knew and 783 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 12: he was going to be pitching, generally speaking, and we're 784 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 12: a long way from there right now. So you know, 785 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 12: they've already lost two games in the late innings, one 786 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 12: in the seventh, one in the eighth, and we knew 787 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 12: that that would be some some of the what we 788 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 12: were going to expect in April, and maybe a little 789 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 12: bit beyond that, as they figure out with all this 790 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 12: arm talent that they feel good about, you know, how 791 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 12: is it going to be best sort of deployed in order? 792 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 12: And yeah, we're a long way from from getting some 793 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 12: final answers to that. You know, I think it's always 794 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 12: critical to remember that Caleb, Keilly and Keaton Win. These 795 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 12: guys are being used as a reliever for the first time, 796 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 12: so they're learning about themselves in terms of maintaining their 797 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 12: stuff and what they need to do to be ready, 798 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 12: how they're going to bounce back, you know, pitch three 799 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 12: days out of for what have you. So, yeah, it's 800 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 12: all a big learning process right now. And yet twenty 801 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 12: scoreless innings to end this series against you know, obviously 802 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 12: the Phillies have some thunder in the middle of that lineup, 803 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 12: so they got to feel good. 804 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: About that well, after the way they lost on Monday, 805 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: up four not f and then not closing the door, 806 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: it's a good point to make there the twenty scoreless 807 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: innings for the Giants here to wrap up this series 808 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: and a series victory. Talking to Andy Baggerley on the 809 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: UMA guest line, I was interested in how they used 810 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: or I was intrigued by how they used Tidwell today. 811 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: I remember when he debuted and he came in he 812 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: had a major league save with the first big league 813 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: save with the three innings to close the door in 814 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: the first home win last week against the Mets and 815 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: the opening game against New York. He had said after 816 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: the game, did Vitello that like the thoughts of who 817 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: would be the closer? Maybe it was the next day 818 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: he said, yeah, there's gonna be a mix of Miller 819 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: and Walker and Keaton win. 820 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: He said, we're all. 821 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: Kind of guys who would be in high leverage spots, 822 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: and he mentioned using Tidwell in some of those spots 823 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: as well. But because he had previously been a starter 824 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: and they used him for three innings, I thought maybe 825 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: they keep him stretched out. Any rhyme or reason to 826 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: the the spot they put him in today for just 827 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: one inning. 828 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 12: Didn't ask him specifically about Tidwell. We you know, we 829 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 12: want to try to keep Tony as as short as 830 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 12: we can, to get the critical stuff out of the 831 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 12: way so we can get before i know, before before 832 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 12: Raffie Devers takes off before everybody else. We want to 833 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 12: try to talk to so so didn't get in the 834 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 12: weeds on every pitching move he made. Uh, didn't want 835 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 12: to ask him specifically about killing. But you know, I 836 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 12: think with Tidwell, they you know, look, they're seeing the 837 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 12: same stuff that we're seeing. A guy with a wipeout slider, 838 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 12: you know, who really does have the weapons. Who can 839 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 12: you know, miss bats when when you want to bring 840 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 12: him in with runners on base and you need a strikeout, 841 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 12: you know, he's got that kind of stuff to do it. 842 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 12: And again, another guy who hasn't really been used in 843 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 12: that role. He's got to figure himself out in that role. 844 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 12: I think the reason he didn't make the camp the 845 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 12: team out of campus because you know, back into spring 846 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 12: training he just wasn't throwing enough strikes. And but yeah, 847 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 12: I think all the potential is there for him to 848 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 12: be a late ending weapon. You don't just snap your 849 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 12: fingers and boom, he's it right away. And there's a 850 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 12: danger in relying on that. So I don't think you 851 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 12: necessarily feel too confident about, well, we've found our setup 852 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 12: guy for the season. But but you know, it's it's 853 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 12: like I said, they feel really good about the arm 854 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 12: talent overall, and now it's just a matter of you know, 855 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 12: honing in on who's ready to help him and what 856 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 12: roles guys are best served in. 857 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 5: It's talking to Andy Baggerley on the UMA guest line. 858 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: I think with the Patrick Bailey Daniel Sue sect debate 859 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 5: that fans have, it's more so what Patrick Bailey is 860 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 5: doing at the plate as a hitter. And then yet 861 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 5: fans you know, don't really focus on what Jung Hoolee's 862 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 5: doing right now, and I would say it's similar struggles 863 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 5: batting one forty three on the season right now and 864 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 5: honestly has not lived up to expectations since signing that contract. 865 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 5: I know we got heard that first season, but what 866 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 5: have you made of Jung hoolee struggles so far, you know, 867 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: as being a San Francisco Giant. 868 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 12: Well, really, I mean, one thing that I really focused 869 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 12: in on before Devs hit the homer, I was probably 870 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 12: going to write about this regardless, just had to kind 871 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 12: of repurp. But you take their four sort of left 872 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 12: handed hitting stalwarts in their lineup. You've got Bailey, a 873 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 12: switch hitter, obviously, but we're talking about when they face 874 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 12: a right handed starter. You've got Bailey, you've got Lee, 875 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 12: you've got Bevers, and you've got Louisa. Rise had a 876 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 12: one ninety two slugging percentage against left ees or against 877 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 12: righty's entering this game today. They had hit the more 878 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 12: ground ball double plays than had extra base hits, and 879 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 12: Junk Hooley had the two doubles that were the only 880 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 12: extra base hits. So Devers's homer was the first homer 881 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 12: left on right this season by the team in game 882 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 12: number thirteen, and it was, you know, obviously his first 883 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 12: homer against a right handed pitcher. And it's no wonder 884 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 12: there were two seven against right handed starters, and that 885 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 12: was starting to look like it'd be a thing, you know, 886 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 12: if some of these lefty bats weren't producing more. So 887 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 12: you're right, you know, Bailey and Lee, there are two 888 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 12: of those four guys, and they haven't gotten a lot 889 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 12: out of them offensively. So what am I seeing? You know, 890 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 12: I'm not sure that there's anything I'm seeing particular out 891 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 12: of Jungho Lee. I think they're trying to figure out 892 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 12: where he fits in the lineup best, but that shouldn't 893 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 12: really impact, you know, what he does and is it 894 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 12: bats too much? But you're right, we haven't seen a 895 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 12: whole lot of production from him early where he got 896 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 12: off to such a great start last year, right, So 897 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 12: you know, and you can look at Elliott Ramos too. 898 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 12: He sat today and he's got i think twenty strikeouts, 899 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 12: which leads the National League in forty seven at bats, 900 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 12: and that's not you know, the hitter we've seen the 901 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 12: last couple of years. So you know, these guys, it's 902 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 12: streaks are part of baseball, good ones and bad ones, 903 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 12: and I think a lot of guys just just got 904 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 12: off to kind of not very good streaks to start 905 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 12: the season. 906 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 2: Andrew Baggerley covers the Giants for the Athletic. He joins 907 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: us on the UMA guestline just a couple of minutes 908 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: here with bags. Got to get him, Gotta let him 909 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: get out here and finish that article. So you mentioned 910 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: just Tony Vaiitello there and how long these pressers go 911 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 2: Did he speak for about like eighteen to twenty minutes 912 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: or so? 913 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: Today it's it's not what we're used to from a 914 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: manager after a game. 915 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think he's gonna kind of learn 916 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 12: as he goes, Like, you know, every question doesn't require 917 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 12: like you know, you know, spinning yarns about stuff or 918 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 12: or or being illustrated with your examples. I mean, there 919 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 12: are some there are questions that are just kind of 920 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 12: cut and dried, you know, And I think he'll he'll 921 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 12: learn that with time and or or even learn which 922 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 12: you know, questions might you know, just you know kind 923 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 12: of maybe you don't give a dismissive answer to, but 924 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 12: you know, maybe the premise of not every question deserves 925 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 12: a really detailed answer, Believe it or not. People in 926 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 12: the media sometimes ask bad questions, me included, so so 927 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 12: so I'm sure he'll learn that. But yeah, just the 928 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 12: mechanics of how it works for us, not that anyone cares, 929 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 12: but you know, post can we get the manager in 930 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 12: the interview room and then we go to talk to 931 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 12: the players in the clubhouse, And you know, it's the 932 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 12: risk you run if you spend too much time with 933 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 12: the managers that you know. Some of the players that 934 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 12: you want to talk to you may not even be there, 935 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 12: so so yeah, that's it's it's definitely. I think something 936 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 12: we'll have to get a little bit better at as 937 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 12: a group is being a little snappier. 938 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: Andrew Beggerley covers the Giants for the Athletic. He joins 939 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: us every Wednesday here talking Giants baseball. Bag's great to 940 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 2: catch up with you man. Good luck finishing up today 941 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon. 942 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: Thanks bags. 943 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 12: Yeah, awesome, yes, next week, thanks take care. 944 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 4: Good deal there. 945 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: Andrew Baggerley, we talked to him every Wednesday right here 946 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: on dirty Work covering Giants baseball for the Athletic. And 947 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: the Giants off tomorrow then hit the road for Baltimore, 948 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Washington and Derek. We got a we got 949 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: a nice set up on Friday, we got about an 950 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: hour long show. 951 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: Don't chinks the team before don't no. 952 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: There's no jingling. I've already looked at the weather. Baltimore 953 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: is fine. It's like seventy five and sunny. He scared 954 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: all weekend in Baltimore. No, what is not looking fine? 955 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 4: Brother? 956 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: Cincinnati next week that's next week. 957 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 5: There there there's plenty of time for that weather update 958 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 5: to improve. 959 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 4: Dude. 960 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 2: It's it's like a week straight of like sixty six percent. 961 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: It's like the it's like the worst situation scout. 962 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: Showers until I'm not gonna believe it until Darren Chant 963 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 5: tells us and you know, gives us an email the 964 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 5: night before saying you guys might prepare for a little 965 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 5: rain dance theater. 966 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm John Miller. 967 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm John Miller, and here's your raid and delay theater. 968 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 4: Yes. 969 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, So wait, Tony fi Tello's doing eighteen minute press conferences. 970 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: Jack Loader texted me after the game and said, Tony 971 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 2: just spoke for twenty. 972 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you ask him enough questions, the 973 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: guy will talk. 974 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 5: So maybe it should be where it's only like maybe 975 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 5: five per postgame press conference. 976 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it should be as long as it takes. 977 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: But I think that's the point that the Bags was 978 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: making there is there's gonna be there's gonna be some 979 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 2: conversations you have where you're like, I didn't you didn't 980 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: have to give us all that. 981 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 4: You don't have to answer all those in the same way. 982 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: They're not all warranting a huge answer. You know. 983 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's he's that type of guy, So I 984 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna change. I think the maybe the 985 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 5: media members need to change, and maybe Jack Loder doesn't 986 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 5: need to ask a postgame. 987 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 2: Question to start the timer. So we know how long 988 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: let's go. He's going, Susan Pas, that's enough. By the way, 989 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: Dirty Work is sponsored by Redwood Credit Union for you 990 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: for community for seventy five and just joined our CU 991 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: today at Redwood CEU dot org, Adam coupland t pop 992 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: with you. Giant's gonna win over the Phillies. Uh we are, dude, 993 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm like not in studio at all this week. Tomorrow 994 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: we're at. 995 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: Harmonic right, last one minute. 996 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 5: Well, we'll see, we'll see if the Warriors find a 997 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 5: way to get a you know, a home playoff game 998 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 5: if they win some of these playing games. 999 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, last, hold on, wait, what. 1000 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 4: The what the hell did you say to me? What 1001 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: if the Warriors get a home playoff game? 1002 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1003 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 5: I know I'm not even believing what I'm saying, but yes, 1004 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 5: at all likelihood tomorrow will be the last. 1005 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 3: Home game for the Warriors this season. 1006 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: So when we sign off tomorrow, we'll say we'll see 1007 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: you guys back here at Harmonic for Game three between 1008 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 2: the Warriors and the Oklahoma City. 1009 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 3: Funder Yeah, no chance. 1010 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that's happening. 1011 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 3: Bro, I don't think so either. 1012 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 4: I don't. 1013 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 6: I don't. 1014 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 5: I don't think so either. I. Like I said, I 1015 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 5: think that Steph gives them a chance and they're watchable again. 1016 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 5: But I think they're gonna lose to any of these 1017 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 5: playing teams. Honestly, maybe the Clippers because they're old too, 1018 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 5: and it would be like Steph versus Kawhi at that point. 1019 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 5: But on the hold of my breath for a big 1020 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 5: turnaround with the Warriors. 1021 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: Here, we'll take a quick break. When we come on back. 1022 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: We will put the show to bed on a Wednesday 1023 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: evening The Giants Gotta Win Dirty Work live from the 1024 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: auxiliary Spanish broadcast booth here at Oracle Park. 1025 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 4: It's literally what it is. More to come. 1026 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: We'll put it to bed next on the Sports Leader 1027 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,959 Speaker 2: Dirty Work, putting the show to bed on a Wednesday 1028 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: evening out of Copeland t Pop Tim Web back at 1029 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: our camby our studios in Daily City, Derek, we got 1030 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: a we all little broad date tonight. 1031 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: Huh you and me? 1032 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, going to go see our guy Frank Kellyana perfore 1033 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 5: at Cobbs. 1034 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 4: Is he gonna make it back in time from Tom's backyard? 1035 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 3: Do you go on with him? 1036 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 4: Tim? Tim? Is that right? It's calliand on Tom's backyard? Yeah? 1037 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 3: Was he nice? That's a good good get to go 1038 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: to go to the backyard. That's sweet. 1039 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's pretty good. That's pretty funny, dude. So yeah, 1040 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna go see calliy end of the night. He's ay, 1041 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: he's at Cobs. He was in Punchline and Sack last night. 1042 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: We'll get out there. What's up the show? Seven thirty? 1043 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: I gotta you, gotta you gotta make it in Tom. 1044 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got plenty of time, and I have one 1045 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 3: thirty minutes. 1046 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 4: You driving or you're taking Bart. 1047 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna lift over to Cobbs and I'll meet 1048 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 3: you over there. 1049 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 4: Left, all right, money bags? 1050 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: Either way I'm gonna have to lift. Is I have 1051 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: to take Bart or whatever? 1052 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they call Milk money bags, Milfman Papa dude, that's 1053 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 2: what they called me. So they called there By the way, 1054 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: somebody checked in on Tony Vitello's postgame presser being nearly 1055 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: twenty minutes according to Jack Loader. Yeah, we got eight 1056 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: man on the YouTube, Chan says Tony V's got nothing 1057 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: on Great Papa's post game time du. 1058 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 4: Exactly. 1059 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 3: If anybody knows it's it's you, it's you and Tim. 1060 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 1061 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because we well, we don't get to 1062 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: start our post game until Greg says it's okay. 1063 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: By the way, somebody checking in here. 1064 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh's tarkingt pat h p one p h on the 1065 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: YouTube chances Cope sounds like Cope sounds like Frank's impression 1066 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: of Alex Jones. 1067 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't know Alex Jones. 1068 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I was at it. He's doing front on 1069 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 4: Alex Jones. That's all right. We gotta get out of here. 1070 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 4: Reagan gotta get your Nick, got to get you over 1071 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 4: to cops. 1072 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 5: What your impression there, sending Nixon this delay fantastic go ahead? 1073 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: Coachs Yeah, No, the U sounded like Nixon. No, I 1074 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 4: was I was more doing. 1075 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 2: I guess my Nixon is a lot like my Harrison 1076 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 2: Ford as branch Ricky. 1077 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, it's not bad. 1078 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 4: I wanna I want to call not tough. 1079 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 14: At Also, we're going to Vietnam tearing down in this wall. 1080 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 14: Jackie messed a go but job tear down that caliberrier 1081 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 14: to baseball. 1082 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: We're two different presidents. Now, all right, let's let's get 1083 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: out of here. We got a note to sell for us, 1084 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: Tim not to sell. 1085 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, note to self. Rudy is not spelled r O 1086 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: O T y Come on jordeo. 1087 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1088 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 5: She literally said, why would I need to know how 1089 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 5: to spell Rudy. 1090 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: It's like, because you're a grown woman. Come on, you're 1091 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: an adult O T. You don't know to spell Rudy. He's like, oh, 1092 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: where where would I use that name before? I don't 1093 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 3: know the movie Rudy or like a person named Rudy? 1094 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: Come on? 1095 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 4: Did she spelled it like booty with an R? 1096 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're rooting for somebody routie. 1097 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 4: So funny? 1098 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: All right, Derek, you got yeah, note to self? You 1099 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: ever live out in real life? 1100 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 5: If the Simpsons meme where Homer just kind of backtracks 1101 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 5: into the grass is like, ah, I shouldn't have said that. 1102 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 5: That was me with the the whole mass thing with 1103 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 5: Daniel sussaka Patrick Bailey, that kind of fell flat. 1104 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna step that away from. 1105 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 4: The oh all right. 1106 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 2: Note to self, note to South see all the Mission 1107 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 2: Impossible movies. 1108 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 4: We we have that kid call it. 1109 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 2: We had a collar that was like I don't know 1110 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: what eleven jack, yeah, Joe eleven, twelve years old. 1111 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 4: I was like, if you see Mission Impossible, it's like, yeah, 1112 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 4: you gotta see those man. It's like you gotta get 1113 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 4: on those brod's. I'm down. I'll see him. 1114 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for Turney work on a Wednesday afternoon. 1115 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: I need some some tea or something bro. 1116 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: Some big blue tea or I'm gonna get a beer 1117 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: with you. 1118 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 4: Well, we we watch them. 1119 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: It worse, but I'm down. 1120 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: We'll be back with you tomorrow from Harmonic Brewing in 1121 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 2: Thrive City two to six. And I think we got 1122 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 2: a new bit. We're gonna unfail tomorrow. By the way, 1123 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 2: are we okay? 1124 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 4: I got a new segment for you, dude. 1125 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: Alrighty Harmonic nice featuring you. All right, So we'll see 1126 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 2: you guys tomorrow a harmon on it from two to six. 1127 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: Thanks to our guest today, Andy Baggerley, Thanks to Tim 1128 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 2: back in the studio, Thanks to Geordo back at the studio, 1129 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 2: And for anybody who needs to hear it. It gets easier. 1130 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: Every day, it gets a little easier. You just gotta 1131 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 2: do it every day. That's the dirty work, but it 1132 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 2: does get easier. You're listening to Cambre and Camber FM, 1133 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco, The Esports Leader, a Cumulus Media station. 1134 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 4: Larry Krueger Niners Nightly starts right now. 1135 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 10: Your dirty work go, yeah, your dirty work