1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: And we continue at one five in the afternoon on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: John, you know, in the gas crisis in the seventies, 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: people would use siphoning hoses to steal gas, But that's 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: so old school. In twenty twenty six, as gas crisis, 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: people in Long Beach are drilling holes into gas tanks. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Not at that same Chevron station that was made famous 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: by the people stealing the gas out of the ground. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it was that one. This was a 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: guy's house where someone drilled into his pickup truck to 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: steal the eighty dollars worth of gasoline if. 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: To catch its dummy. 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: You know who that happened to. Who's that Roland de 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Walk Carla Marinucci's husband. It happened to him, I think 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: twice too. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: He got drilled. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it costs a fortune when you have to 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: have your gas tank replaced. Yeah, it's eighty dollars worth 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: of theft, and the repair bill is in the thousands. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Rude eight hundred two two two five two two two 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: is telephone number one eight hundred two to two five two 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: guest to the program. He is the publisher of the 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Flash Report website and you can read him right now 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: on substack where he just has a peace out about 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: the La mayors race, where he analyzes all the polling 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: in that contest and comes to the conclusion that well, 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: it's a rejection of everyone running. You can get him 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: over at substack at so does it matter at substack 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: dot com. John Fleischman, Welcome and thanks so much for 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: stopping by. 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Well, actually, I'm I'm now your official remote correspondence, calling 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: in straight from the California Republican Party state Convention. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: That's right, you are in San Diego. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: I am. 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the USS Carl Vincent Aircraft Carrier look 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: across from Mission Bay and thinking to myself that if 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: you were out here with me, we'd be having a 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 4: cocktail and asking ourselves are we past the age of 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: the aircraft carrier and are we moving on to the 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: age of the drone airship. 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this, we certainly wouldn't be 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: in hasmat suits near the Tiajuana River. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: That is for sure the truth. 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: But if we can hold elections based on who's that 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: this hotel, we'd be doing just fine, John, Unfortunately, I 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: don't think I don't think that's the way it works. 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Well, before we get to what's going on in the 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: building you're in right now, let's talk about the big 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: story that's going on right now in the gubernatorial election, 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: which is this sort of damocles that is being held 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: over the head of Eric Swallwell, the congressman from the 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: East Bay, the Democrat who has been pulling the best 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: of all the Demo crats in recent polls. But there 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: are a number of women who are expected to come 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: out and make allegations of sexual harassment. These are people 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: who are staffers who have worked in his office. They 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: are interns who have worked in his office. According to 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: one woman who is an attorney who is the organizer 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of the women, late last night, the Swalwell campaign sent 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: them threatening cease and distist letters telling them that they 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: do not want them to go public with their stories 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: and if they do, there will be all kinds of consequences. 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: According to these same women, Swalwell has also been doing 65 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: oppo research on them, I guess as a way to 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: try to threaten them or intimidate them into silence. If 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: what they are expected to say publicly is true, I 68 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: would imagine that this is going to be a massive 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: problem for Swallwell and his campaign. 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: John. 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: I know we've been talking talking about this attorney Shay 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: and Hunt. She's the executive director of gen Z for Change, 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: which is a legitimate progressive organization. This is a legitimate operator. 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: This isn't some fringe person, and so, you know, I 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: think that what's going to really happen is if these 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: accusations come out, the first thing that's going to be 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: looked at is who are these women and are they 78 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 4: actually in positions where they have credibility? Are they former 79 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: staff people for former campaign staff? 80 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: Are they you know, maybe former. 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Babysitters that have I don't know, you know, we've read 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: all about that that problem where Swallowell leads Congress with 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: reimbursing the most money from a campaign to his family 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: for uh for a child's care payments. 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 5: But that's a that's a separate story. 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: My point is, if it turns out that any of 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: these accusations come from somebody that's that closely associated with 88 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: swallow he's got big, big problems because he doesn't have 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: time to disprove these alley if they come forward and 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: they're going to be you know, if it's some random 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: person who says, hey, I was at a hotel once 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: and I went into the bathroom and Swawell came in 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: the bathroom and slapped me in the butt. 94 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: You know, I don't think that's going to matter. 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: But if somebody comes out and says I work for 96 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: him and he did this, I think he would very 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: well sink his candidacy because he doesn't have time. There 98 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: is no due process time. Welcome to politics. And already, 99 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 4: you know, the press corps who follows this campaign very closely, 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: they already know that Swawall has a reputation for being 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: a complete jerk. And so I don't think he's going 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: to get any benefit of that from anybody here, and 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 4: it could severely rock the campaign and looks not forget 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: kind of on a closing important note, which is that 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: he is locked in a kind of a three way 106 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: battle with Katie Porter and with Tom Steier, and both 107 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: of those candidates, obviously stire have an unlimited amount of 108 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: money to be able to share these kinds of revelations 109 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: with likely voters, and so Swallows I almost don't blame 110 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: him for trying to threaten, trying to intimidate, because if 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: this comes out the way that it could come out, I. 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 5: Think it sinks as candidacy. 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: You'll know when it does, because I think the public 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: employee unions will leave him and go find a new candidate. 115 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: This may be about semantics, and I may be reading 116 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: something into this that's not there, but I'm curious to 117 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: get your take on it. So when I go through 118 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the allegations that have come from the individual that you 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: referenced and the women who are associated with these accusers, 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: sexual harassment seems to be the word that is used 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I want to go 122 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: over a tweet that was put out by Michael Trehio, 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: who is a Democratic strategist who's worked with Antonio Vierrigosa 124 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: in the past. He put this out right when Eric 125 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Swalwell announced that he would be running for governor. I 126 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: guess Eric Swalwell can enjoy today. Folks know he slept 127 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: with many of his interns, well married, sexually harassed others, 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: will engaged, has a ton of weird texts late at 129 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: night saved on former interns phone. Still he gets he 130 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: will have to answer for this later on during the campaign. Now, 131 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Katie Porter went on CNN yesterday and was asked about this, 132 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and she didn't use the word sexual harassment. 133 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: She said sexual assault. 134 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: And then when you look at the cease and desist 135 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: letter that was sent out by Swallwell's attorneys on his 136 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: behalf to the women who are expected to come out 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: as accusers, the term sexual assault was used in the 138 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: language of those letters. I wonder if what could be 139 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: coming out is something that's even more severe than what 140 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: we're anticipating based on that Traheo tweet. 141 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean trueO is very definitely well connected 142 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: and as part of the democratic infrastructure, so you know, 143 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: he would hear these things. I don't even think it 144 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: needs to be an allegation of something that extreme to 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: think him, because there's just so much there are so 146 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: many people who believe based on his personality, based on 147 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: the way he carries himself, based on the fact that 148 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: I've heard these. 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: Stories about him for years. 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: I mean just kind of like people talking about You've 151 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: heard that he's you know, going out, that he's the 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: womaniser guy and all that. 153 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: You know, I've heard those stories. You know. 154 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 4: The real question is whether or not, these women are 155 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: going to be brave enough to step forward because you know, 156 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: when you step into the limelight, it has consequences. 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, look. 158 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: How long it took Caesar Chavez as a victim to 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: come forward. 160 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: It took her sixty seven years. You know, it's not 161 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: an easy thing to come forward. 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 4: But if they come forward, and like I said, I 163 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: think there it's less the specifics of the allegation and 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: more the credibility of the person making the allegation. If 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 4: these allegations truly come from former interns, former staff people, 166 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: campaign aids, people that have babysat the children, anywhere in 167 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: that sphere, he is cooked because you know, for somebody 168 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: to come forward that has that kind of credibility of access, 169 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: I don't see how he's able to disprove it in 170 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 4: a reasonable period of time. 171 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the timeline here for a second, 172 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: because I do not believe in today's day and age, 173 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: it's like the old days where you had jews with 174 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: a publisher of the newspaper. You could kill a story 175 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: and the story would never see a light a day. 176 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Between all of the alternative media that exists out there, 177 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: with social media. With the way that information travels so fast, 178 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I think these women at some point will be able 179 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: to tell their story. What I think Smallwell is doing 180 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: now is he's trying to delay it as long as 181 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: he can. Because the ballots go out in early May. 182 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: So let's say these women don't come forward with the 183 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: specifics until a week or two into the voting. He's 184 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: going to go to the Democratic Party and he's going 185 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: to say, look, here's the deal. The most loyal partisan 186 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Democratic voters have already come out and voted for me. 187 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: They cannot change their vote. If you abandon me right 188 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: now for someone else, you are handing this office to 189 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: a Republican and you are ensuring a Democratic lockout on 190 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: the November ballot. So we're either in this together or 191 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: we're going to watch the Republicans take over that office together. 192 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: But it's mutually assured destruction if you abandon me. 193 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: I think you are one hundred percent correct. He's trying 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: to eke out more and more time. He just he 195 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: wants to get to when those ballots drop, and like 196 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: you said, he wants to be able to make the 197 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: case that you know I'm inevitable, right, and that you're 198 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: going to end. You know, if you you watched, then 199 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: he's going to start to say, if you take me down, 200 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: we're going to end up with the two Republicans, right, 201 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: he'll use But you know, I don't. I think it's coming, 202 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: although I think so far his tactic has worked because 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: I thought we might have seen some of these stories 204 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: come out as early as yesterday. But you know, I 205 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: think it's coming, and I think it's going to happen, 206 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: and I think when it does, the real question will 207 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: be whether or not the electorate written large is so 208 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: jaundice about accusations and whether or not it sticks. 209 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 5: But I think it does. 210 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: I think in this environment, in this competitive of a race, 211 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: when these candidates are disclosed, I think, I think, I 212 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: think it's a perfect storm against Eric Swallow. 213 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 5: Because all eyes are on. 214 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: The putative front runner, and he's considered to be the 215 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: front runner because he's got the support from these unions 216 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: and the union. And here's the ultimate of ironies, John 217 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: is that the unions of all rally behind him because 218 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: he's a nothing. He has no money, he's broke, and 219 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: so they want him because he needs them. But it 220 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: also means he has no gravitas to defend himself because 221 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: all he is is somebody who's the bitch of the unions. 222 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 4: It's going to be I think it's really going to 223 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: be something if this opens up, John, and I think 224 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 4: you've got a front row seat to share this with 225 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: your listeners. It's going to be something. 226 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: I'll tell you who else. 227 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: This is a real bad look for if this turns 228 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: out to be true, and that is this former Speaker 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the House, Nancy Pelosi, because if this was going on 230 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: with staffers and with interns, and with campaign workers, and 231 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: presumably with people who may have worked on committees that 232 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: he was on, there's no way she didn't know what 233 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: was being alleged, because if it goes to the Rules Committee, 234 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: which is what deals with this, or the Ethics Committee, 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: there's no way that that committee chairman doesn't keep the 236 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Speaker informed with everything that's coming to their desk. And 237 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: if she ran interference for him so that he could 238 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: be a member in good standing and try to help 239 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: clear the way for him, by the way, to be 240 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: the Democratic choice for governor, that is an awful look 241 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: for someone who regards themselves as an advocate for women 242 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: and girls. 243 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: I agree with that one hundred percent. 244 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 4: And you could be sure that if these allegations come out, 245 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: you know, this will go straight to the Ethics Committee 246 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: immediately because the Speaker will send it there right away 247 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 4: and then and then watch the Democrats on the committee 248 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: try to slow walk it and all that. But I 249 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: just think the media mailstrom that's going to be created, 250 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: especially if these girls are willing to go on even 251 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 4: one of them is willing to go on camera and 252 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: talk about what happened, you know, I you know it 253 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: will royal the race. It will change everything. The only 254 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: bad news for those people who care about the future 255 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: of California is that it's not like Swall is the 256 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: only bad news there out there. You know, if he fades, 257 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: what do we get sire or Katie Porter rising to 258 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: the top. You know, it's a it's a cafeteria plan 259 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: of bad options. But I would tell you that temperamentally 260 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: ethically follows the worst of the button. So I'm not 261 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: going to be crying if he goes down. I certainly won't. 262 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: Let's shift gears and talk about the Republicans. Now you're 263 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: at the California Republican Party convention in San Diego. Both 264 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Chad Bianco, the Riverside County sheriff, and Steve Hilton, the 265 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: former Fox News host, both candidates for governor, are trying 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: to get the endorsement of the California Republican Party. What 267 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: do you think the party is going to do? You 268 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: think the party is going to not endorse either one 269 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: of them, They're going to endorse both of them. What 270 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen? 271 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's kind of interesting because there's multiple 272 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: dynamics going on here. Clearly, the candidate who I think 273 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: is the most is Chad Bianco. He is around here, 274 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: going around with his people, and I think he realizes 275 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: that it may be too much to recover from if 276 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: Steve Hilton were to get some party endorsement right after 277 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: getting the President's endorsement and all of it happening at once, 278 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: and frankly, Hilton is the winner of the weekend if 279 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: Bianco can't get an endorsement, because it will mean that 280 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: Hilton is going into campaign season with that key endorsement 281 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: of President Trump, which matters to Republican voters, and Bianco 282 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: will not have a party endorsement, which I don't even 283 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: think is as strong as a Trump endorsement, but at 284 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: least it would be something. But to answer your question, 285 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: I would bet that neither of these candidates gets to 286 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: the sixty percent threshold. But you know, strange things have 287 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: happened when you're at these conventions and you've been to them, 288 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: John and I try to portray this for your listeners. 289 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: Imagine just the ultimate and retail politics. You've got signs everywhere. 290 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: You've got volunteers every year, You've got people that are 291 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: hard chargers everywhere. You've got commotion in the hallways, people 292 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: shoving each other. You've got this, you know, the media 293 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: cameras everywhere. And what happens is a rumor comes from 294 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: one end of the convention and starts to circulate to 295 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: the other end and back and forth and what's true 296 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: and what's not true, And suddenly an announcement comes out 297 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: that this group or this organization is decided to back 298 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: a candidate, and the momentum moves for an hour until 299 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: another group does. So, you know, it's a lot of 300 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: fun retail politics, but at the end of the day, 301 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: it's a really high bar, especially when there is a 302 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: group of people at this convention who definitely have staked 303 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: out the position that they helped the party stays out 304 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: because they're still hoping that there's a chance, beyond chances, 305 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: that two Republicans will advance to the general election. 306 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: I don't think that's likely, but there's always hope. 307 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Right to my eye, the California Republican Party should endorse 308 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: both of them as a way to say either one 309 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of them are fine, but we're going to create a 310 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: distinction between these two and the Leo Zakis of the world. 311 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: We don't care who you vote for, as long as 312 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: it's one of these For one of these two, what 313 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: would you think the strongest? 314 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. 315 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: I don't think Leo Zaki is involved with the chicken 316 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: business anymore. 317 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: I think Zaki Farms went. 318 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: Under, but I think that's a great idea. I'll well 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: have to see if that, if that somehow starts to 320 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: happen in the middle of this convention. 321 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 5: Right now, I don't. 322 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 4: Think they're I don't think that either of these candidates, 323 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: I think, intends on trying to help the other one 324 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: get an endorsement, even if even if it's for the 325 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: two of them. Right now, they're both convinced they think 326 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: they can get it all for themselves, and so we'll 327 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: just see how it goes. 328 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Last question before you go, are any of the statewide 329 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: constitutional offices within reach for the Republican candidate or is 330 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: there a feeling in that hall that any of those 331 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: offices are within reach? And I say that because, for sample, 332 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: the insurance industry in the state of California has melted 333 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: down under Ricardo Laura's leadership at the California Department of Insurance. 334 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: There is no argument that you can make that the 335 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Democratic Party has done a good job in that office, 336 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: either with Ricardo Lara or even before that with Dave Jones. 337 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: And then we had a poll that came out showing 338 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: that Rob Bonta, the Attorney generals at forty percent, which 339 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: is pretty a mnemic for any incumbent running for reelection. 340 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: Are there any of those offices that they think that 341 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: they can play in. 342 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I'll tell you is you're here 343 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: at a California Republican Party convention. 344 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 5: Full of activists. 345 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: So if you were to ask everybody here, they think 346 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: they're all in play, right, this is you know, these 347 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: are folks that don't want to be reminded that there's 348 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: two and a half million more Democrats than Republicans in California. 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 4: My position is, I think that if there's positions in play, 350 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: the two that are the most likely are the ones 351 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: you just mentioned. The Attorney General's office because Monta has 352 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: been so awful on crime and justice issues, and and 353 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 4: and then would be the opposite of the insurance Commissioner. Unfortunately, 354 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: Laura is not running again because he hit term moments. 355 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: That guy's a train record. He's been like vacations to 356 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: like forty countries while he while he's supposedly been working 357 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: to keep our insurance rates below how's that going? But 358 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's going to be you know, it'll 359 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: be interesting to see what happens. You already know the 360 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: playbook for the fall. All they're going to do is 361 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: run an anti Trump campaign and try not to talk 362 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: about the issues. But I do think that the attorney 363 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: general race, the insurance commissioner race. And then also, you know, 364 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: if voter ID does qualify for the ballot, and I 365 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: think it's going to I think that's going to put 366 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: a spotlight on the Secretary of State's office as well, 367 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: because this is the secretary of State. He'll be running 368 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: for re election. While campaigning specifically against the passage of 369 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: what I think will be a very popular about measure 370 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: to simply require the you show a government ID to vote. 371 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 4: By the way, up here at the convention, you had 372 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: the show at ID to vote. 373 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, John Fleischmann. You can get 374 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: him online and Sodoesitmatter dot com and follow him on 375 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: Exit Flash Report. 376 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for stopping by. 377 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: You got it, Thanks John and Randy. 378 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: We have some breaking news to report. 379 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: It dropped everybody, and the first place to report this 380 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: is the San Francisco Chronicle. I read you now the headline, 381 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: former staffer says Representative Eric Swaalwell, candidate for California governor, 382 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: sexually assaulted her. 383 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Earlier today, we were parsing the words that were used 384 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: by Katie Porter in the CNN interview that we played 385 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: for you on yesterday's program, and the words that were 386 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: used in the lawyer from the lawyer representing Eric Swallwell 387 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: going to the victim, and the words sexual assault were 388 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: used in both of them. So far on social media, 389 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: sexual harassment was the only word that I had seen 390 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: that jumped out at us as being something that was 391 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: odd and it looks like it caught our eye for 392 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: a reason. 393 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: This is just breaking and somehow I got past the paywall. 394 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: So we're going to now read you this bombshell story. 395 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: But you can also read it for yourself. It's on 396 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: the Chronicle SF Chronicle dot com. This is couruse that 397 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: comes from reporting from Alexi Kosef and Sophia Bullag of 398 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: the Chronicle. A woman who worked for nearly two years 399 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: for Representative Eric Swallwell, a leading candidate for California governor, 400 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: said she had several sexual encounters with him while he 401 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: was her boss, and alleged twice he sexually assaulted her 402 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: when she was too intoxicated to consent. 403 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Oh my. 404 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: Swalwell did not respond to any of the former staffers' 405 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: specific allegations made in a series of interviews with The 406 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Chronicle and provided a statement quote, these allegations are false 407 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: and come on the eve of an election against the 408 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: front runner for governor. For nearly twenty years, I have 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: served the public as a prosecutor and a congressman and 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: have always protected women. He does like to say he's 411 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: a protector. That's a tell. I will defend myself with 412 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: the facts and where necessary, bring legal action. My focus 413 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: in the coming days is to be with my wife 414 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: and children and defend our decades of service against these lies. 415 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Mind you, He was supposed to be in Palm Desert 416 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: for a live event and then canceled, claiming he was sick. 417 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Late Thursday, an attorney for Swalwell sent a cease and 418 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: assist letter to the woman saying she had made false statements, 419 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: accusing mister Swalwell of sexual assault and non consensual sexual encounter, 420 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: and threatening to sue her if she did not return allegations. 421 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: The woman said Swalwell began pursuing her within weeks after 422 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: she was hired at age twenty one to work in 423 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: the Democrat's district office in Castro Valley in twenty nineteen, 424 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Swalwell messaged her on Snapchat, sending images of his genitals 425 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: and seeking nude pictures of her in return. WHOA, oh 426 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: my goodness, we're all reading this together people for the 427 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: first time, she said. Swalwell, who is married and seventeen 428 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: years her senior, tried to kiss her in the car 429 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: when she drove him home from a donor meeting one night. 430 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: Driving him to another event. Weeks later, she said, if 431 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: there's any kids in the car, you might want to 432 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: turn this down, she said. Swalwell pulled out his penis 433 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: in the car and asked her to perform a certain 434 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: act on him. She said she did so in a 435 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: parking lot. 436 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: The timeless art of seduction. 437 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I gotta be careful here. I'm going 438 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: to try to be as explicit as I can, but 439 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: we are still governed by the FCC. Again, you can 440 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: read this for yourself. It's on the chronicle and it's 441 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: going all over social media right now. Just use euphemisms. 442 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: I am good at that. We do do that from 443 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: time to. 444 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: Time, doing the most with this end. We could play 445 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: charades through the radio. 446 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: In September twenty nineteen, the woman said Swalwell invited her 447 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: out for drinks and she became so severely intoxicated that 448 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: she does not remember the rest of the night. 449 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Oh. 450 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: She said, she w up naked in Swalwell's hotel bed 451 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: and can feel the effect of having previously had intercourse. 452 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: She said. Swalwell distanced himself from her afterward, and the 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: relationship faded. Five years later, the woman said she attended 454 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: in April twenty twenty four charity gala where Swalwell was honored. 455 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: The woman, who no longer worked for Swalwell said they 456 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: met for drinks afterward, during which she became so inebriated 457 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: that she only remembers snippets of the night, including pushing 458 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: Swalwell away and telling him no while he allegedly forced 459 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: himself on her. 460 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: This would be for the third time. 461 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: Is this Eric Swalwell or Bill Cosby? 462 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: I think he was the bartender the woman. 463 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: I mean either, I mean, we don't know who this 464 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: woman is, but either she's admitting that, you know, she 465 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: was getting way too far into drinking with Swalwell, or 466 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: maybe he was slipping her a mickey. I don't know. 467 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 468 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, hey, I live in Rancho Mirage. Maybe she's going 469 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: to become my neighbor soon. I could hit a golf 470 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: ball and hit the Betty Ford Center. 471 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: The woman texted a friend three days later saying she 472 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 2: was sexually assaulted by Swalwell. She wrote in a series 473 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: of messages reviewed by the Chronicle that she had blocked out, 474 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: but quote woke up during it and even told him 475 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: to stop at one point. Okay, this is very important 476 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: because Swalwell's whole line of defense is Hey, this is 477 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: all coming out of nowhere right before the election. But 478 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: if she has timestamp text messages from twenty twenty four 479 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: where she told a friend that this happened, that's big. 480 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: Well. 481 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind he was not even expected to be 482 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: a candidate for this office. The only reason he's running 483 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: is because Kamala took a pass and Padilla took a 484 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: pass and the Democratic establishment needed someone with high name ID. 485 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Quote this happened one other time when I was working 486 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: with them, but I convinced myself that I was an 487 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: equal party, even though it was the same pattern. I 488 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: blacked out and had he had sex with me. Referring 489 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: to the twenty nineteen incident, The Chronicle spoke with the 490 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: friend and the woman's then boyfriend, whom she said she 491 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: told about the alleged twenty twenty four assault when she 492 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: got home the next day. Both described her as still 493 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: disoriented that morning, and her then boyfriend said he encouraged 494 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: her to report Swallwell to the police. The woman said 495 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: she did not go to the authorities because she was 496 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: afraid they would not believe her. Medical record show she 497 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: obtained pregnancy and STD tests a week after the incident. 498 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: So there's a paper trail. 499 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: The Chronicle shared a detailed summary of the woman's account 500 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: with Swalwell's campaign on Thursday. Swalwell's attorney, Elias Dabier, wrote 501 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: in the cease and desist letter that the woman has 502 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: exhibited the conduct of a loyal and supportive colleague, not 503 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: a victim, and that the credibility of your accusations is 504 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: fatally undermined by your voluntary and cooperative relationship with mister 505 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: Swalwell over the course of many years following the period 506 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: in question. Okay, that's a defense, you might say. The 507 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: letter mentioned the woman's use of Swalwell as a professional 508 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: reference in her recent outreach to the Swalwell campaign about 509 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: social media posts alleging his misconduct. An attorney representing the woman, 510 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: Gerald Singleton, responded to Dabier on Friday, writing that her 511 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: statements are one hundred percent factually accurate and she will 512 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: not be with drawing them. In recent weeks, political influencers 513 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: and other social media accounts have alleged sexual misconduct by Swalwell. 514 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: The online posts have not included any specific evidence, but 515 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: gained enough attention that Swalwell issued a public denial saying 516 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: he never behaved inappropriately toward nor slept with female staffers 517 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: during his seven terms in Congress. 518 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: No, it is. 519 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: False, Wallwell told reporters after a town hall in Sacramento 520 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, characterizing the post on social media as political attacks. 521 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: Less than a month before people began voting in the 522 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: primary election in which the top two candidates YadA, YadA, YadA, 523 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: YadA YadA. On Thursday, Swalwell canceled a previously scheduled event 524 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: in Palm Desert. Local news outlet KESQ reported that the 525 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: event was canceled due to illness. 526 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was sick to his stomach, knowing what was 527 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: coming in the chronicle. 528 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: The Chronicle is not identifying the woman this story in 529 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: compliance with its policy against naming the alleged victims of 530 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: sexual assault. Reporters looking into the broader allegations against Swalwell 531 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: reached her while contacting dozens of his former staffers, so 532 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people knew this story was out there. 533 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: The woman said she largely kept quiet about Swalwell's behavior 534 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: for years out of fear that she would suffer personal 535 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: and professional consequences. He was the foundation of my career. 536 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: I had nothing to fall back on or anyone to 537 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: vouch for my skills outside of my colleagues in that 538 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: office and Eric himself. She told the Chronicle, I knew 539 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: if I came forward, it would define me and undermine 540 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: my credibility. The woman began speaking with the Chronicle reporter 541 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: last month as she considered whether to make these allegations public. 542 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: When rumors about Swalwell's conduct began circulating online. The woman 543 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: said she was confused, used because she had only told 544 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: a small circle of family and close friends about what 545 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: happened to her. 546 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, here's why she was confused, because all of us 547 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: have heard stories about Swalwell and this wasn't even the 548 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: story I was referring to. 549 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Oh, that story is going to come out too, isn't it. 550 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure, But there's got to be a million of them. 551 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: I mean, people who behave like this. It's pathological. You 552 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: don't can't turn it off. 553 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: She said she was petrified that Swalwell had told people 554 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: about their encounters and that her name had appeared in 555 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: an opposition research file compiled by a rival campaign. Which 556 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: campaign we talking about, Katie? 557 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: I think we all know. 558 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: She said. She called the Swalwell campaign in late March 559 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: to find out whether her name had surfaced among rumored victims. 560 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: A staffer on the campaign, she said, asked her to 561 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: vouch for Swallwell, yikes, so they've known about this for 562 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: quite some time that this was coming. 563 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: This shows you how reckless they are. It really does. 564 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: Why would you run for high office if you were 565 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: him and you knew that you did this and probably 566 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: things similar to this with other people. Why would you 567 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: elevate yourself to a position where you know what's going 568 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: to come out and you know the party is going 569 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: to be over Well. 570 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: It sure does lend credence to the whole idea that 571 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 2: this is business as usual for Congress people. 572 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Well, and it just goes to show you that they 573 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: all knew about it. These people talk, and I know, 574 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to tell every single person you know, 575 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: but you tell one or two people in the business 576 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: and it spreads like wildfire. They all knew. Whenever you 577 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: talk to people about this story. Before the story was 578 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: going to break, everyone was aware of it. Everyone one, 579 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: particularly on the Democratic side of the aisle because they 580 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: talk to each other. Republican staffers only hear it tangentially, 581 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: the Democratic staffers. They all go to happy hour together, 582 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: they all go to dinner together, they vacation together. They're 583 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: more in tune with what's going on in democratic offices 584 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: than Republicans are. And if Katie Porter was a member 585 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: of Congress, I guarantee you she was aware of all 586 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: of this. 587 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Now, if Swalwell's holding on to any OPO that he 588 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: was waiting to release against the others, it's time for 589 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: the salvos. 590 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just let it all out, all. 591 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: Right, Let's get back to the story from the San 592 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: Francisco Chronicle, this bombshell article. I am in shock about 593 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: what I'm reading here, she said. The staffer, this is 594 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: the staffer of Swalwell's campaign, asked her whether Swalwell had 595 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: ever been inappropriate with her, and then, when she hesitated 596 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: to answer, said quote, actually, I they don't want to know. 597 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: When the campaign staffer told her that Swalwell was not 598 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: afraid of the rumors because he had not done anything inappropriate, 599 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: the woman said she felt determined to speak out. He 600 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: was so confident that I would stay silent, that he 601 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: wasn't scared. 602 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: Quote. 603 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: I have no skin in this game of who becomes governor, 604 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: but I feel people have a right to know whether 605 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: the person who leads a state that is a safe 606 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: haven for so many women actually treats women with dignity 607 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: and will protect their rights. 608 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: Quote. 609 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: No one protected me from him, and so I have 610 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: to protect other young women like me who aspire to 611 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 2: work in this field, and he could prey upon. Recent 612 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: polling shows Swalwell neck and neck with Katie Porter and 613 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: Tom Steyer. Hey, Katie, you got a shout out in 614 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: this story. 615 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: You can smart right. 616 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: The other top Democrats in the race, and the two 617 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 2: Republicans Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton. Swalwell has won endorsements 618 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: from Oh, this is going to be embarrassing, twenty four 619 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: other members of Congress, including Senator Adam Schiff Senator Ruben 620 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: Diego of Arizona. Four team members of the state legislature 621 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 2: publicly support him, and he hosted Powerful labor unions including 622 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: the SEIU California and the California Teachers Association have also 623 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: backed his candidacy. 624 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, when the allegations first surfaced the 625 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: CTA Well, Senator Ruben Diego from Arizona defended him and 626 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: attacked the accusers. He wants to be president and then 627 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: the California Teachers Association came out and said, we don't care. 628 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: We're moving forward with our ADMI. 629 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh boy. Swalwell's popularity comes in part from his prominent 630 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: role in the impeachment investigation against Donald Trump one point zero. 631 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: He is a frequent harsh critic of Trump on broadcast 632 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: news problems programs, and has framed much of his gubernatorial 633 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: campaign around the idea that he will stand up to 634 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: Trump and protect California's policies against federal interference. In his 635 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one book Endgame Colin Inside the Impeachments of 636 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he wrote a book about that. Ugh Swallwell 637 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: described complaining to his wife about having to meet with 638 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 2: Trump because of his alleged mistreatment of women. Quote He's 639 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: a pig, he recounted, telling her he bragged about grabbing 640 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: women by the well, we all know what he's awful. 641 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: Okay that to tell right there that he put that 642 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: line in the book we have it is true in politics, 643 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: for as long as I can remember, your public crusades 644 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: reveal your private misdeeds. 645 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: One hundred percent of the time. 646 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: If you are all in against going after gay people, 647 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: we should check your browser history Well oh trans too. 648 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: The former staffer began working for Swalwell during his short 649 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: lived presidential campaign in twenty nineteen. Following her college graduation. 650 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: She was hired into his district office in Castro Valley 651 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: that July, after he dropped out of the race. She said, Swalwell, 652 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: who was thirty eight at the time, began messaging her 653 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 2: on Snapchat, a popular app among teams and college students 654 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: that allows users to send disappearing photos and videos that 655 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: can't be saved or archived that men like Swalwell use 656 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: for well sending pictures. 657 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: Of you know what, little Swalwell. 658 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: Let's stop there for now because we've got to take 659 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: a break. But there's much much more in this incredible 660 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: story from the San Francisco Chronicle detailing the alleged sexual 661 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: assault of one victim from gubernatorial candidate Congressman Eric Swalwell. 662 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: And we should say at this point it's all alleged. 663 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: None of this has been proven in court. These are 664 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: allegations that are simply being reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. 665 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: If you went a weigh in on what you just 666 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: heard and whether or not this impacts you think where 667 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: the governor's race is going to go. I can't imagine 668 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: that it's not impacting it. Give us a call at 669 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two two five two two two. What 670 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two two five two two two. We'll 671 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: try to work in some of your reaction to what 672 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: we're learning in real time. Eight hundred two two two 673 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: five two two two. Randy, we have more breaking news 674 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: on top of our breaking news. 675 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: It is coming by the second here. This is a 676 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: huge news day. According to Politico, multiple people have abruptly 677 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: resigned from Eric Swalwell's gubernatorial campaign, including his members of 678 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: senior leadership, including Courtney Pew, who was a strategic advisor 679 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: who served as Swalwell's top liaison to organize labor groups. 680 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: Apparently everyone's jumping ship. Also, Tony Thurman is the first 681 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: candidate that I've seen that is calling on not only 682 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: Swalwell to drop out of the race, but to resign 683 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: from Congress. 684 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: Looks like Steve Hilton is now also calling on Eric 685 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: Swalwell to drop out of the race. Oh boy, all right, 686 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: We've got a lot more coming, don't you go anywhere. 687 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: It's the John Phillips Show on this Jimmy Buffet Friday,