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Speaker 1: Now back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek Popa

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Speaker 1: on K and B R one O, four five and

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Speaker 1: six eighty am the sports Leader. Dirty Work is sponsored

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Speaker 1: by Jack's Restaurant and Bar and all day, any day

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the not only not only the number

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Speaker 2: one princess in my rankings and Darren's rankings. And I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of you guys when we're talking Cinderella stories,

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Speaker 2: did she actually have the best one? And a lot

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Speaker 2: of us are putting in terms of like adversity, overcome

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Speaker 2: the spell or the curse you had to overcome, plus

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Speaker 2: plus doing the dirty work. Mulan number one. Also maybe

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Speaker 2: the best song going. Oh i'd say so yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is me daughters when I asked four sons, four sons, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know all the saddest I know the

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Speaker 2: song is five, follow by the wayside a bit because

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Speaker 2: of the b a man mantravit. Yeah, but that's part

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Speaker 2: of the story all about like hell yea, I love

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Speaker 2: the story of Milan. One of the absolute best away

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Speaker 2: came to our four one, five eight, five sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: The number to call and the number to text we've

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Speaker 2: been asking is Cinderella, the best Cinderella story or the

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Speaker 2: best princess going. And here's somebody else checks in here

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Speaker 2: at AAA cam Beyond on the Golden State number and

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Speaker 2: shareroom text line five to three to zero says, Hey,

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Speaker 2: where does Princess Leah rank at all of this? We're

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Speaker 2: gonna add her to the lore of princesses. Says her

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Speaker 2: dad killed her mom, got separated from her twin for

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Speaker 2: twenty years. Dad tortured her in the Death Star, made

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Speaker 2: her watch her adopted planet blow up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Does she ever lose her crown though, or like is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she is.

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Speaker 2: She's kind of falling a bit into the Mulan ranks,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still going to Mulan number one.

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Speaker 4: No, definitely Mulan number one for everything she had to

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Speaker 5: But she has to be a man in order to

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Speaker 2: She watched the destruction of the planet Alduron is that, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: that's tortured by Vais. She did that her own Vilicia too,

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Speaker 2: where she set it up, kidnapped it, throwing in the

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Speaker 2: gold bikini by John. Yeah, dude, she still doesn't break, dude, No,

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Speaker 2: she is not. She never breaks. She got It's like

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Speaker 2: a seasoned vet kisses her brother too. I just I

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Speaker 2: don't think she knows at that point that he is.

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Speaker 2: I don't tell me. I don't think anybody does. Don't

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Speaker 2: tell me that. What you like that? No?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying like I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she wasn't captured in slaves, I mean, no spell,

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Speaker 2: but she does fall into the same classification as some

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Speaker 2: top of the badass index next to Milan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we going like straight Disney princesses? Are

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Speaker 4: we going off the board here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Kind of.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a little bit off the board. And

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Speaker 2: again like no, no royalty in practice, but she is

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Speaker 5: Okay, what about Princess Fiona.

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Speaker 6: Fiona is a tough one too, because in the end

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Speaker 5: She turns into an ogre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Well, but and then she learns true beauty.

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Speaker 2: You've learned truebuty internally, Yeah, I mean she does have

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Speaker 4: But she is kind of High and Mighty about at

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Speaker 4: first she was like, oh, they sent an ogre to

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Speaker 2: Three Oneentenceas I'd say, the twenty twenty five Warriors are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of right.

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Speaker 2: nine sickstances. What about Pocahontas. Wasn't she a princess? We

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Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, she was the princess of the Chief and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the true story of Pocahontas is much more dark.

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Speaker 2: But not quite as a Disney friendly five one us

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Speaker 2: because after the Stevie Young goes down and then Garcia took.

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Speaker 4: Over thousand and two. Yeah, I guess now they were

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that was maybe that was maybe Jeff Garcia's best.

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Speaker 4: That was the year that Tira Lewans pulled the shirtp

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Speaker 2: Junket that was the trade jist. Yes, yes, an only

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Speaker 2: can be ours number to call and detext's go out

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Speaker 2: to Josh joshus and Santa said he's that princess and

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Speaker 2: Cinderella thoughts Josh are on the Sports Leader What up Josh?

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Speaker 8: Hey guys, First of all, this is an amazing topic.

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Speaker 8: Kudos to you for this. Thanks to you kind of

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Speaker 8: took my thunder. My kids actually are it's open nights

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Speaker 8: in Morgan Hill, California. I have three kids in theater

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Speaker 8: and they are in the musical production of Shrek Junior.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 8: Nice, you know, And just just to correct you, Fiona,

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Speaker 8: he's cursed. Yea princess that turns into an ogre.

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Speaker 5: At night, right.

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Speaker 8: Princess by day, so she actually embraces her true self

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Speaker 8: when she meets Shrek and turns into an ogre permanently

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Speaker 8: takes some time the rough life. You know, you're a princess,

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Speaker 8: the princess by day and an ogre at night. That's

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Speaker 2: And she's not even and she's not even really, she's

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Speaker 2: not even really getting to embrace what it is to

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Speaker 2: be a princess, you know. I mean she's locked away

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Speaker 2: in that tower, away from anybody, you know, waiting for

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Speaker 2: a prince exactly.

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Speaker 8: Tell you got half princess, right, you can be princess

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Speaker 8: some of the time, but not all the time.

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Speaker 2: And well you know what me, man, I love performance,

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Speaker 2: I love stage, I love I love anything that's that's

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Speaker 3: Huh, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Take care much, loved brother. Anyway, it came to ors

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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna call Eric is in Redwood City? Will

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Speaker 2: everybody calling him be dude? I love this princess talked.

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Speaker 2: I told you earlier. I was like, I want to

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Speaker 2: get into this because I saw best Cinderella stories in

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Speaker 2: the Bay Area. I was like, we're given Cinderella a

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Speaker 2: lot of love here. What about my other what about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she is the originator of rags and riches,

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Speaker 4: but yes, there are better dirty work stories.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to princess.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, is like, is a Jasmine princess

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Speaker 2: Jasmine royal? But restricted? I mean she didn't never come

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Speaker 2: tons of adversity, she was born into it.

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Speaker 5: But what is she restricted with? Just not finding she

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Speaker 5: Remember she's forced to marry Jafar.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, I told her she's got to

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Speaker 2: Marria Jafar. And then because you got to marry this

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Speaker 2: this beard is so twisted by Aladdin shows. Yeah, Laddin

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Speaker 2: shows I'm trying to trying to woo her in other ways.

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Speaker 2: Prince Ali fabulously Ali Babwa A great song, great song.

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Speaker 2: He'sss what she says A hundred bad guys? Was Swartz.

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Speaker 2: I love that song. It deals with Jafar. She's confrontational

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Speaker 2: though she's bold. She's got like a Dion Sanders swag

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Speaker 5: And the outfits too.

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Speaker 2: She's showing up. She got Princess Jasmine like embroidered into

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Speaker 5: Yep, yep. And who's her uh? Who's her? Tiger by

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Speaker 2: Was Raja Roger on the title.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, I think that and that's an

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Speaker 4: area Atlant had to deal with a lot more because

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Speaker 4: he's actually a streaked rat and he becomes that, he

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Speaker 4: Was it baboo or what's his my boo?

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Speaker 5: A boo A boo? And then uh, a poo is

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Speaker 5: the Simpsons?

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Speaker 4: A boo is the no no, no no no, I know,

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Speaker 4: And then and then uh, who's uh ig no?

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Speaker 2: I think he's rather tasty.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and then Iago voiced by who's my guy? Okiber

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Speaker 4: Godfreber Godfrey with that annoying voice. Uh yeah, that's something

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Speaker 4: about Jasmina. She's like bold, but she's not a grinder.

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Speaker 4: I think at one point, dude, she plays a little

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Speaker 4: tempriest at Jafar. Oh yeah, yeah, have on that red house.

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Speaker 4: You have to a little bit to throw him off,

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Speaker 4: throw him off the scent. Eric's in Redwood City? Eric,

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Speaker 4: what's going on there? And you're on the sports Leader has.

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Speaker 9: Gone very very long time? Listen there and the first

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Speaker 2: That boy.

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Speaker 9: Question. When the prince went around trying all all the shoes,

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Speaker 9: Why did it fall off?

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Speaker 9: Cinderella shoe?

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Speaker 2: Well, she's running to get back to the carriage because

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Speaker 2: she's got to get back by midnight, otherwise she turns

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's in a rush.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess. Okay thought. And then another question I

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Speaker 9: but the princess shreks girl.

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Speaker 2: That's when we were just talking about Princess Fiona shrets

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's all I got.

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Speaker 5: And that's all I got. What about Princess Fiona and

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Speaker 2: All right, That's that's all I got. I like that, dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like that. I love that. This is what it's

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Speaker 2: Whatever it takes.

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Speaker 4: What about Princess Vespa from the text line, Princess Vespa

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Speaker 4: from Spaceballs?

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Speaker 2: I mean she just falls under the layer category.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, so she does. She does go

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Speaker 4: She's gonna know his job and uh dealing with the

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Speaker 4: you know, she's Jewish four oh.

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Speaker 2: Eight, so there's no love for Elsa had to overcome

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Speaker 2: her own powers, isolation, and societal judgment, all while freezing

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Speaker 2: her a off. You see, I've seen Frozen, but not

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Speaker 2: in years, and I don't remember.

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Speaker 5: The you've seen it one. I didn't grow up with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that came out probably.

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Speaker 5: When I was in college. I saw once in my family.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen songs are great, but it doesn't stick with me

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Speaker 4: as far as princesses.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people checking in on Molana as well.

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Speaker 2: I do havea my list. I haven't seen Mohana, but

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Speaker 5: She's got Mawana.

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Speaker 2: She takes down a literal lava demon and restores goddess identity. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Danny? I haven't seen it, but but you had you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, what's your favorite Disney princess? Just based

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Speaker 6: Here, Well, I think I'd go opposite of you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Really, you pick hers her number one princess for overcoming adversity,

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Speaker 10: He's the Royalty.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Like, I don't want to swoop

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Speaker 4: He's barefoot, yeah he is. He wears shoes later on,

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Speaker 2: Got I need to live, got to still to eat,

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, you locked down, Jasmine, Come on, well he.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot to get through. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting married, Yeah, that's an American pie. Three Aladdin's wedding, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bison Sannio. Man, he wasn't getting married.

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Speaker 2: Will hunting though he did. He missed Game six. Yes,

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Speaker 2: That's what Matt Damon tells him, What a Will Hunting

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Speaker 4: No, I mean in the end, like yeah, like he's

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Speaker 2: What about Jane from Tarzan, she's not she's not a.

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Speaker 5: Prison becomes Princess of the Jungle though.

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Speaker 2: Coaps was like the standards that are a little bit lower. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Then you go from riches to rags.

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Speaker 2: Seven one nine says movie Princess Bride was awesome about

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Speaker 5: Oh you know what, I haven't seen it in a

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Speaker 2: A lot of people saying Princess Buttercup from The Princess bride.

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Speaker 5: I don't tell you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I ever saw Sleeping Beauty. I did, Danny,

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Speaker 10: She was asleep the whole movie.

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Speaker 2: Beauty is if Danny was gonna have the expertise on that.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I remember, Yeah, she got what's the name

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Speaker 2: Her name Nifficent. Yes, she so she gets cursed Aurora's christening.

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Speaker 2: Her cursing babies? Dude, saying she will die on her

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Speaker 5: But she had sixteen good years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, like, okay, I can't I can't totally erase

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about how I didn't really understand the science

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Speaker 2: of sleeping beauty shoe. You're not suping beauty cinderator. I'm

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Speaker 2: Like this this doesn't doesn't seem to make a whole

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Speaker 4: Okay, can we bring princess into this equation because we

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Speaker 2: Where's that? What's that from Emperor's New Groove? I wan look, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that one too. That's a little different.

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Speaker 6: But boys and the poison for Cusco poison Cusco Cusco

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it was your birth.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't an em person.

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Speaker 5: New Groove guy Dude is by far the funniest Disney.

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Speaker 2: Movie hands I saw. But I might have been a

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Speaker 10: For I still conk.

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Speaker 5: I still laugh at Empers's New Groove. It is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: To avoid the Curse and Sleeping Beauty, Aurora is raised

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Speaker 2: in secret by three good fairies, Flora, Fauna, and Merriweather

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Speaker 2: in a forest cottage, unaware of her own royal identity.

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Speaker 5: The third one takes a turn there, Flora, Fauna and Merriweather.

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Speaker 2: She was an afterthought? Which which one of you did

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Speaker 5: Another f No, Merriweather's totally fine.

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Speaker 2: There the doctor's last name. Yeah. While living in the

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Speaker 2: Without knowing his identity anyway, she has up knocking out.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I guess you ever some adversity, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's good. She doesn't really even know her. Prince is

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Speaker 5: On this topic.

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Speaker 6: I like, by the way, Derek, you know the Disney

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Speaker 6: horror movies I've been watching, you know, like the Winnie

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Speaker 4: One, Yeah, where they take the yeah, the like the original,

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Speaker 2: Their public domain. So like Whinny the Poof they made

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Speaker 6: Years like that, but just relating, just relating it back

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Speaker 6: They call it the Ugly Stepsister. That's seems to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I haven't watched it.

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Speaker 5: So she takes her vengeance on the world because she's ugly.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's another spin on like said the Ugly Stepsisters.

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Speaker 6: She's saying, but she doesn't get revenge on anybody. She

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Speaker 6: it's weird. It's a body horror.

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Speaker 2: I got you, but there's only one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's Winnie the Pooh and what else is there?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 6: We need many of the Pooh Blood and Honey one

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Speaker 6: there's two of them. And then there's a Bambi reckoning.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Bamby the reckoning, a shotguns on that.

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Speaker 10: You can get vengeance on the Hunter. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: That one yet. He comes back. There's like a deer

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Speaker 5: Taur, Yeah, a minuita.

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Speaker 6: There's a Peter pan one, Oh my god, where he

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Speaker 5: This is demented.

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Speaker 2: He sends kids to never Land. But it's like Michael

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Speaker 3: That's just a horror.

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Speaker 2: Movie out of couple of deep Dan done with you.

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Speaker 2: Danny likes is his Disney horror movies.

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Speaker 10: He does not scream Boat Willie.

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Speaker 4: Scream Boat Willow, the original Disney classic with Mickey Mouse.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's not a giant mouse.

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Speaker 6: It's a little mouse that's killing people on a boat.

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Speaker 10: You've seen all these I've seen most of them.

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Speaker 6: Is that it is a live action scream Boat Willie.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it looks like a rat?

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Speaker 5: Oh my, that's just that's discussing.

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Speaker 2: It's a littleround. It's not discussing. It's just weird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like it.

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Speaker 5: Esport It centered every one of these premieres.

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Speaker 2: It's based on the nineteen twenty eight Mickey Mouse cartoons

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Speaker 2: Team but Willie. The movie centers around a serial killer

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Speaker 2: That's basically a soldiers one night, five nights at Freddy's.

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Speaker 2: Thirty work On a Thursday, Adam Copeland Deep Pop Dan

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Speaker 2: done with you. Danny was giving us all of his, uh,

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Speaker 2: his Disney movies that have been or like, I think

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Speaker 2: it's all Disney that.

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Speaker 5: Have now demented. Disney movies turn into horrors now.

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Speaker 2: Eight public domain. So I think part of the reason

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Speaker 2: that all of the everyone's like why are they making

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Speaker 2: all these live action Disney movies are remaking them. I

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Speaker 2: think part of it is to avoid that stuff from

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Speaker 2: going into the public domain. Oh really, I think like

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Speaker 2: if you if you use the character, you can extend somebody.

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Speaker 5: You don't use it, you lose it.

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Speaker 2: Think there's some stuff about that. While they have the

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Speaker 2: rights that it extends. So they've built onto like a

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Speaker 2: lad and they've added on to toy story. They keep

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Speaker 2: making like I think they can extend some of that

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Speaker 2: because they don't. They don't want Winnie the Pooh to

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Speaker 2: fall into the hands of the wrong people. I don't

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Speaker 2: know now they didn't want steam but willing to fall

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Speaker 2: into the hands.

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Speaker 5: And so they didn't make a live action Winny the

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Speaker 5: Pooh have the terrifier.

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Speaker 2: Well, Danny's watched all of them. People are checking in.

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Speaker 2: Somebody did say nine to five from the text line

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Speaker 2: the new one on Peter Pan looks sick.

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Speaker 5: Five one is sick and demented.

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Speaker 2: It's vance is Danny Dunn sounds kind of demented? Well,

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Speaker 2: the four five, he says, Danny's one sick. F check

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Speaker 2: his cross pieces. Now, Danny loves his horror movies. He

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Speaker 2: did like a top thirty one list in last October.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty one on thirty one where I watched thirty

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Speaker 6: one movies in October and.

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Speaker 4: I remember five or yeah, Number five on your list

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Speaker 4: was Scooby Doo on Zombie Island, which is a classic.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't the top five. That's a good memory, Derek,

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Speaker 6: I don't even remember my list now, is it from?

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Speaker 6: Was this because it was scary, Danny? Or just because

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Speaker 6: it was it was just a solid movie top to bottom?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Was this a solid movie altogether? I remember it greatly

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Speaker 6: from my childhood.

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Speaker 2: So it holds up huh yeah, hold.

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Speaker 5: Up here time again. And that's when the monsters are real.

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Speaker 2: Coachs a little bit better than the Great Pumpkin Charlie

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Speaker 2: Brown or whatever that one's called. Right, Well, I was

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Speaker 2: never really into that.

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Speaker 4: No, not really scary. I would say Scooby Doo on

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Speaker 4: Zombielands a little bitter than that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Dan done. When he fills in for Tim,

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Speaker 2: I guess this is a new thing. He never did

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Speaker 2: it prior to filling to my trip.

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Speaker 5: Oh he's got music, but I checked in.

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Speaker 2: I checked in, well, you guys while I was gone

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Speaker 2: on my trip and Danny was doing something new. We're

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Speaker 2: calling Danny's double dip. Were he dips with both of us,

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Speaker 2: but he gives us each a couple of topics. We

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Speaker 2: debated for a minute, and then he picks a winner.

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Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah, all right, Danny, why don't you joping

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Speaker 2: us up on Danny's double dip.

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Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, so, Uh, I was tired of doing

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Speaker 6: Tim's Tuesday takes and trivia as Danny I wasn't working

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Speaker 6: for me, So I, yeah, I'm doing Danny's double dip.

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Speaker 6: And DEREKLRK always likes to likes to comment on the

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Speaker 6: double part that that's not the point of it, Derek,

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Speaker 6: It's not about how many questions I ask you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: It's about me double dipping into the world of sports

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Speaker 6: and asking you guys questions about.

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Speaker 2: Tim readily gives a take. So what do you got

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Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 6: Dan?

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Speaker 2: So we each get what a minute.

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Speaker 6: To respond at the clock, you got a minute thirty

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Speaker 6: to respond to my question. If you go over, you'll

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Speaker 6: hear the buzzer. And it's as simple as that. Then

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Speaker 6: at the end I give you guys a point and

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Speaker 6: at the end there's a winner.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go, let's do it, Dan.

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Speaker 6: All right, something you touched on earlier about the NBA

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Speaker 6: being a little too crowded already and there are being

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Speaker 6: too many teams in the playoffs. They're actually talking about

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Speaker 6: expanding the lead to UH and having teams in Vegas

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Speaker 6: and seatle and with the with the tanking epidemic going

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Speaker 6: on in the league currently. Does the NBA have enough

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Speaker 6: talent for an expansion?

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Speaker 5: HM? Who's going first? I guess me?

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Speaker 2: Since we starting day, why don't you start?

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Speaker 5: Okay? H? Does it have enough talent?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: The problem is the talent doesn't play every single night,

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Speaker 4: and that's unfortunately we're dealing with a lot of injuries now.

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Speaker 4: Cad Cunningham gonna be out for the regular season with

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Speaker 4: the collapse. Long hopefully comes back for the postseason here.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's a talent issue, Dan. I

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Speaker 4: think it's the fact that we have load management issues

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Speaker 4: and guys just not really caring about the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Once those franchises move to Seattle and Las Vegas, those

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Speaker 4: cities will be invested. I think that Seattle's been starved

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Speaker 4: for basketball. They love their SuperSonics back in the day.

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Speaker 4: They love that team with Kevin Durant and then he left,

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Speaker 4: and then with Las Vegas, we know that if you

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Speaker 4: bring the Raiders over there or the A's, they really

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Speaker 4: don't care because it's not their team. Like the Las

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Speaker 4: Vegas was that the demons that are are.

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Speaker 5: Not the Demons.

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Speaker 4: Whatever the team was for the XFL back in the day,

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Speaker 4: like they love that team. That's one of their biggest

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Speaker 4: teams about you know, going back to two thousand and one,

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Speaker 4: but they're big. His team is obviously the Vegas Golden Knights.

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Speaker 4: If you bring another NBA team in there, an expansion team,

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Speaker 4: I think that people will care.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think it's a talent issue.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the NBA is down because the regular

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Speaker 4: season is not a big deal.

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Speaker 5: We need treat it as such.

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Speaker 4: But if you bring teams to Seattle and Las Vegas,

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Speaker 4: those cities will care.

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Speaker 10: All right, do it to you.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even need all ninety seconds. I didn't make

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Speaker 2: a point. Interesting, by the way, We'll start off by

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Speaker 2: letting you know that the XFL team for Vegas was

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Speaker 2: the Vegas Outlaws. The San Francisco Demons of course right

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Speaker 2: here at the sav Scot Demons lost to the LA

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Speaker 2: Extreme in XFL Bowl one or whatever it was to

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Speaker 2: Tommy Maddox, the question being whether or not there's two

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Speaker 2: enough talent. Derek makes a good point. There's enough talent.

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Speaker 2: Every league across North American professional sports is more talented

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Speaker 2: than it's ever been. The leagues have grown, it's a

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Speaker 2: superstar league. You'd be hard pressed to find ten teams

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Speaker 2: in the NBA who didn't have one superstar. To Derek's point,

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Speaker 2: the players aren't playing, it's the structure of the league itself.

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Speaker 2: If you'd like the playoffs to be an exclusive class

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Speaker 2: and expand the actual roster of teams, then you need

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Speaker 2: to keep the number of playoff teams at where it's at.

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Speaker 2: Is there enough talent? Absolutely? Do I want this to happen?

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't think anybody cares. I think

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Speaker 2: everybody agrees Seattle should have a team and if they

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Speaker 2: get it, they'll get their records back. Does Vegas need

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Speaker 2: a team? I don't know, and I don't care. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that Vegas really cares. They've got the a's coming.

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Speaker 2: They show up a little bit for the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Aces who want a WNBA championship a few years back,

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Speaker 2: they show up for the Vegas Golden Knights. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they'll ever be able to recreate what the Vegas

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Speaker 2: Golden Knights did in their inception of a season. So

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Speaker 2: I don't really care about where the teams are. It's

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Speaker 2: about there being too many teams and too many games.

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Speaker 2: And too many teams that go to the postseason. The

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Speaker 2: NBA's product is not lacking because they need more teams

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Speaker 2: than other cities. If this is, they're trying to tap

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Speaker 2: into new markets and get some of this back by

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Speaker 2: all means. But all your games are nationally televised or streamed,

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Speaker 2: and your biggest moments, your biggest stage on playoff weekend

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Speaker 2: is a dud. So it's not about is there enough talent?

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Speaker 2: It's do we need this? Does anybody need this? Does

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Speaker 2: it help the league? I don't know that it helps league.

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Speaker 2: It adds more eyeballs, and that's what they want, but

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Speaker 2: is it better for anybody? I don't really care a.

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Speaker 6: Game, all right, I'm both well thought out and crafted answers,

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Speaker 6: but I'm going to give you the point to Derek

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Speaker 6: for hopping onto it first. Hey that I'll go first.

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Speaker 6: Now that's why, very different criteria for question number two.

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Speaker 2: This sucks, all right?

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Dad, with the Max Crosby trade, Nolan and void.

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Speaker 6: What is a barrius sports trade that comes to mind

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Speaker 6: that you wish could have been axed?

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Speaker 2: M What is a barrious sports want to start to

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Speaker 2: clock down? What is a barious sports trade that I

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Speaker 2: wish had not gone through. Yes, ooh, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: A trade that I wish was not made. I know

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Speaker 2: exactly which one it was. The Giants go down in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and and three to the Florida Marlins in

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Speaker 2: four games. Right, they win Game one behind Jason schmid

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Speaker 2: complete game shoutout. They lose game two behind Sidney Pond's

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Speaker 2: own Game three, they drop Game four. Dontrell gets the

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Speaker 2: ball for the Marlins in Miami at Pro Player Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Jason Schmidt tells Felipe, I'm ready for Game five, but

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Speaker 2: I can't take it today. He turns to the righty,

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Speaker 2: Jerome Williams, you get the drop fly ball in the

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Speaker 2: outfield by Jose Cruz Junior, the gold Glove winner of

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Speaker 2: that year. And they, by the way, had forty three

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Speaker 2: saves that season from Tim Morrell, who was on the

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Speaker 2: hill when that ball gets dropped in the outfield. We

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Speaker 2: all know how it ends, Dusty, excuse me, JT plows

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Speaker 2: plowing over Pudge Rodrigez. The problem here is that after

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Speaker 2: that season, Rob Then was done, Warrell was gone, they

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Speaker 2: did not have a closer, and they had a dude Wayiton.

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Speaker 2: He became a borderline Hall of Fame closer, Joe Nathan.

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Speaker 2: They traded Joe Nathan that offseason to the Minnesota Twins

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Speaker 2: for a catcher named aj Persinski who came over and

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Speaker 2: before he plays a game for the Giants wins his

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Speaker 2: arbitration case, they pay him like thirty percent more than

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Speaker 2: they had to pay him the year before. Not only

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Speaker 2: did they give up a future closer and future All

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Speaker 2: Star in Nathan, they give up Francisco Lariano, who became

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Speaker 2: a longtime starter across Major League Baseball at All Star

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Speaker 2: in his own right, and Booth Bondser who did have

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Speaker 2: a cup of coffee and pitched okay for the Twins

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Speaker 2: at the major league level. If the Giants don't trade

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Speaker 2: Joe Nathan for Prazinski, the rest of that era where

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Speaker 2: they're losing to Finley in the final day of the

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Speaker 2: season is a lot different.

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Speaker 6: So that's the one. I love that, all right. I

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Speaker 6: love that one. Derek, you are up.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: I got two?

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Speaker 4: You want to cesspitis in twenty fourteen that totally tanked

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Speaker 4: the a season. He had seventeen home runs, and for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason, I know the reason, they wanted more pitching,

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Speaker 4: so they him, traded him for John Lester, who he

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Speaker 4: didn't do anything, and then at the Wald card game

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Speaker 4: he totally crapped the bed there. No, it was terrible,

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Speaker 4: So i'll give you you want a cesspitus.

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Speaker 5: I think that was just a terrible trade by the A's.

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Speaker 5: He overthought it.

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Speaker 4: Not to mention that offseason they traded away Josh Donaldson

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Speaker 4: to the Toronto Blue Jays. But of course the one

654
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Speaker 4: that hits me the most is Khalil Mack where the

655
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Speaker 4: Raiders didn't have the funds to give him the new contract,

656
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Speaker 4: and I totally understand that, but at the same time,

657
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Speaker 4: he was a generational talent.

658
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Speaker 5: In the end, you get two first round picks for him.

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Speaker 4: You trade away with Mark Coopy to get three first

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Speaker 4: round picks in that draft, and the only people that

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Speaker 4: you get on were Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 5: That was ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I understand that at that time the Raiders were cash poor,

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Speaker 4: but come on, find a way to get the money.

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Speaker 4: When you have a guy that's a generational talent, the

666
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Speaker 4: likes of Lawrence Taylor picking up people by one freak bicep,

667
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Speaker 4: you find a way to get that guy a part

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Speaker 4: of your franchise for years.

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Speaker 5: To come.

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Speaker 4: And that's a second shot the Raiders have with Max

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Speaker 4: Crosthy right now. But I give you if I'm giving

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Speaker 4: you two. Cesspatis and Khalil Mack were the biggest what

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Speaker 4: if trades in Oakland sports history.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, fired up answer there, Derek, I was

675
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Speaker 6: really only looking for one answer.

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Speaker 10: Coach is gonna get the point.

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Speaker 2: On this because he gave you two. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the criteria Johnny Coom said that take their season. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, Cesspatist was still under contract the.

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Speaker 6: Following high know, I probably would have sided with coaches

681
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Speaker 6: anyway because the Jon Nathan was Joe Nathan want does

682
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Speaker 6: piss me off a.

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Speaker 5: Lot because of who Persinski was also after.

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Speaker 6: That, Like, yeah, there was it was. It's not just

685
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Speaker 6: second guessing, it was first guessing. It was like they

686
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Speaker 6: didn't want them.

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Speaker 10: They didn't. It was terrible. And then yeah, it led

688
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Speaker 10: to the Armando beneath that stuff, and it was it.

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Speaker 2: Set them back for a generation of closers.

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Speaker 10: Dan, it was awful, all right.

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Speaker 6: Rounding it out here with question number three, you guys

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Speaker 6: are tied one one winner take all here?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 6: Have the Warriors failed Steph Curry in the twilight of

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Speaker 6: his career.

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Speaker 5: Oh am I going first in have they failed him?

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Speaker 4: Yes, because at this point in his career he should

698
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Speaker 4: have a good running mate, and he does in Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, you can't account for the fact that

700
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Speaker 4: he was gonna tear his acl But have they done

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Speaker 4: enough for him?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: They haven't.

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Speaker 4: But I can't really blame Mike Dunleavy Junior for that

705
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Speaker 4: because he was put in a weird situation where he

706
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Speaker 4: takes over for Bob Myers, like, hey, make this team

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Speaker 4: a championship contender.

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Speaker 5: I will say this, Have they done enough for Steph Curry?

709
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Speaker 4: No, but he's given more of a luxury than other

710
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Speaker 4: Bay Area legends that careers ended, like you know what,

711
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Speaker 4: Joe Montana, Barry Bonds. Those guys were traded off the

712
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Speaker 4: team or not re signed. Where Steph's gonna have his

713
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Speaker 4: his time to decide when he wants to go and

714
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Speaker 4: be a warrior for life. But have they done enough?

715
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Speaker 4: I mean that's hard to say. Like, yes, they probably

716
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Speaker 4: exhausted all options. They try to get Giannis, they try

717
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Speaker 4: to make other moves out there. So have they let

718
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Speaker 4: him down? Yes, But I don't think Steph is angry

719
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Speaker 4: by any means. I don't think he wants to leave

720
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Speaker 4: because the Warriors didn't do enough. At least he knows

721
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Speaker 4: they're trying. So I think that Steph has been given

722
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Speaker 4: more like in comparison to Joe Montana or Barry Bonds.

723
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Speaker 5: But have they done enough for him? No, they haven't.

724
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Speaker 2: The question was was have they failed Steph Curry at

725
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Speaker 2: the end of his career? I say absolutely. The guy's

726
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Speaker 2: averaging twenty seven points a game still and he's gonna

727
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Speaker 2: enter his age thirty eighth season. Have they tried to

728
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Speaker 2: do things to help him, Yeah, and have those things failed? Yes? Absolutely.

729
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Speaker 2: We knew he was going to be breaking down. We

730
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Speaker 2: know that you can't rely on a player of his

731
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Speaker 2: caliber with this many miles on his legs to play

732
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Speaker 2: eighty games a year, or seventy games a year, or

733
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Speaker 2: maybe even sixty five games a year. In the last

734
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Speaker 2: two seasons or three seasons since they won the championship,

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Speaker 2: what have they done around him that led you to

736
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Speaker 2: believe they were championship contenders last offseason, not the one

737
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Speaker 2: right before this year. Two offseasons ago, and they added

738
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Speaker 2: Buddy Heeld, they added Melton before he got hurt, and

739
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Speaker 2: they traded him for Schroeder and before they get Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: Prior to all that, even Steph Curry was like a

741
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: deer in the headlights. So have they failed him? Yeah?

742
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Speaker 2: What should they have done differently? That's a discussion or

743
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Speaker 2: argument for a different day. But did they set themselves

744
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Speaker 2: up to successful beyond that championship year?

745
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: Tell you what.

746
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: I did not like the Draymond contract when they handed

747
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Speaker 2: it out. I was vocal about that with Tom. I said,

748
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like that he's gonna get one

749
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Speaker 2: hundred mil for four more if it was a two

750
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Speaker 2: year deal I was in. I didn't really think that

751
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Speaker 2: was the best allocation of those funds for how long

752
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: that deal was going to be. Could you find success

753
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: without him? I think absolutely? But is the question is,

754
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Speaker 2: is Steph Curry's still capable of being the best player

755
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Speaker 2: on a championship team? My answer is yes, Have they

756
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Speaker 2: put a championship team around him? The answer has to

757
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: be no, which means they've failed him. So I say, yeah, Dan,

758
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Speaker 2: at this juncture, I can't say they've they've done enough

759
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Speaker 2: to help Steph win another one?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 6: Another great episode of the dips here and you guys

762
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Speaker 6: actually took some time off the clock onlke Krueger with

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Speaker 6: his ten second answers.

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Speaker 10: Oh, Jay Simpson period no s.

765
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Speaker 2: So who on that point, Dan did? I went he

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Speaker 2: to Derek Copse.

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Speaker 10: I'm giving that point to you.

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Speaker 2: There we go. So I want to remember this day.

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Speaker 2: What's Derek's record in the dips that we know? We

770
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Speaker 2: should keep track.

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Speaker 6: I can see I gave him the win over Greg Silver,

772
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Speaker 6: and I don't remember it. Did I think I think

773
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Speaker 6: that's my only win. I think I gave the win

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Speaker 6: to krug.

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Speaker 2: All right, we should keep track of records just all

776
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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 4: I think tittle one. I think uh ted ramy one.

778
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Speaker 4: So I like this dude.

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Speaker 2: It's like around the horn and Derek just catches l

780
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Speaker 2: So Stanny's around the horn, but it's Dandy's double Dips'll

781
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Speaker 2: take a quick.

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Speaker 6: By the way, copx uh Walt Chick. Then on the trade,

783
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Speaker 6: Carlos Beltron would have been his Yeah, A.

784
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Speaker 2: Couple of people said, Carlos Beltron, I don't know, man.

785
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Speaker 2: The Giants had just won a World Series, they were

786
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Speaker 2: still in the playoff, hunt Buster was out. I really

787
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Speaker 2: liked giving up a minor leaguer to go get Carlos Beltron,

788
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Speaker 2: and they tried to keep him. They tried to resign him.

789
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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you don't, if you do

790
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Speaker 2: resign him and you keep him, you don't get hundred

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Speaker 2: pence who ends up leading it a two more. So

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. We'll take a break and we

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Speaker 2: come back, Sam Amy of the Athletic Joints as we

794
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: can talk some more of your basketball with Sam also

795
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: discussed with him as has the like where is Steph

796
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Speaker 2: Curry's career going now? He had that conversation with Marcus Thompson.

797
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Speaker 2: How does this thing end for him? And will they

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Speaker 2: put enough around him? Sam Amy joins us. Next, It's

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Speaker 2: a Thursday on Dirty Work on these Sports Leader.

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Speaker 1: You found Dirty Work with Adam Copeland and Derek Poppa

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Speaker 1: where no job is too dirty on KNBR The Sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Thursday. Adam Copeland Deep Pop with you,

805
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Speaker 2: Tim web Out watching March Madness as we all are

806
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Speaker 2: here in the studio joining us on the Yuma guest line.

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Speaker 2: It's Sam Amy covers the NBA for the Athletic. We

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Speaker 2: do it with Sam every Thursday. Sam, what's up? Probably

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Speaker 2: doing man? Well connected with Sam?

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Speaker 7: Yet?

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Speaker 2: Think we got him? You got me, Sam? I would say,

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Speaker 2: we don't have any I think with video connect I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you can hear me yet. Anyway, we're

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Speaker 2: working to make the connection. Well forgot the King, Sam

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Speaker 2: mc good. Maybe talking to somebody else there. Anyway, Dan's

816
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Speaker 2: working to connect with him. The Sharks, do you played

817
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Speaker 2: it out at seven against Buffalo? Huge game tonight at

818
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Speaker 2: seven for the Sharks. We will be at Jack's Restaurant

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Speaker 2: and Bar in Newark tomorrow from two to six. We'll

820
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Speaker 2: be hanging watching March Madness. Derek and I were just

821
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Speaker 2: talking about how we're getting down there. Decided probably public

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Speaker 2: transit so we can we can have a few. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we can get into our back of the Jacks.

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Speaker 4: People are very generous people with shots and drinks, so

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Speaker 4: probably in our best interest to it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we have a choice. Think we show

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Speaker 2: up on the shots, start get We've made the connection

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Speaker 2: with Sam. Amy joins us on the Yuma guest line

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Speaker 2: covers the NBA for the Athletic. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Sam?

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Speaker 7: How you doing, man, Good afternoon, guys, doing well. Just

832
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Speaker 7: juggling a little bit of the new stuff here. But

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Speaker 7: sorry for the delays. Behalf we did anything good? Anything

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Speaker 7: you want to break h No, I mean it's already,

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Speaker 7: to be honest, kind of already out there is. It's

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Speaker 7: a little bookkeeping thing with the Miami Heat with Terry

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Speaker 7: Rosier and his looking likely that he will not be

838
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Speaker 7: on the Heat's playoff roster. Not done just yet, but

839
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Speaker 7: it appears that will be the case.

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Speaker 4: Well, there news today significant for the Detroit Pistons. Kate

841
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: Cunningham going to be out for I guess the regular season.

842
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: We'll see by the postseason with the collapse lung and

843
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Speaker 4: people are comparing it to I guess c J. McCollum

844
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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, where you have the same situation.

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Speaker 4: And it's hard to tell with people's timelines. But what

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Speaker 4: do you think this means, Sam when it comes to

847
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Speaker 4: his return and what it means for the number one

848
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Speaker 4: seed in the East with the Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 3: No, it's tough. I mean, Cay, you know, it's funny.

850
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Speaker 7: There's been a bunch of great individual seasons this year.

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Speaker 3: His has been on the shore List, and so.

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Speaker 7: Much fun to see the Pistons kind of having this

853
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Speaker 7: renaissance and have it be so similar to the nostalgia

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Speaker 7: of the Bad Boys Pistons and just how tough and

855
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 7: gritty this team is, you know, And I mean, shoot,

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00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: you know, Kate is a bigger, more physical guy than

857
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Speaker 7: Isaiah Thomas back in the day, but especially in his

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Speaker 7: own right, and so you kind of would like to

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Speaker 7: see a guy like that have his moment in the

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Speaker 7: spotlight with momentum right like he's going to be back,

861
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Speaker 7: but you know, this is a serious condition or situation

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Speaker 7: that he's dealing with. Like you said, see McCallum on

863
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Speaker 7: threw it years ago. It's a big deal. And so

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Speaker 7: when he comes back, it's going to be how is

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Speaker 7: he feeling? Is he all the way back? They were

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Speaker 7: already scuffling a little bit, at least by their kind

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Speaker 7: of elite standards. You know, the other part of this, guys,

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Speaker 7: as you know, is that it certainly kind of reignited

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Speaker 7: the debate and the conversation about the sixty five game rule,

870
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 7: because cade that I think sixty games and it's really

871
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 7: unfortunate for a guy like that that he's going to

872
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 7: miss out on all NBA because of this new stipulation,

873
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 7: which should you know, I think at the time, to

874
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 7: be honest, I was I liked the sixty five game rule.

875
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: I understood why they did it because I was tired

876
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: of seeing guys sit and load manage.

877
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 7: But it has not, you know, worked out in practice

878
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 7: as they had planned, and guys like Kate are paying

879
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 7: a price.

880
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: Talking to Ceramicure of the Athletic joins us on the

881
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Yuma Gessla and it's funny we just kind of we're

882
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: talking about that. We're discussing March Budness being such a

883
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: fun tournament, how much consistency there is, and it seems

884
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: to deliver in the same way every year, and that

885
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: the NBA Playoffs, in my opinion, have kind of become

886
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: the worst of the postseason tournaments. It's it's twenty teams

887
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: are involved in it. Now you've got Steve kersoning maybe

888
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: too many games being played. They try to put the

889
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: stipulation in for awards, but as you point out, it

890
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: hasn't hasn't materialized in more games being played by these

891
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: guys are changing and how they see these awards. So

892
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: does the expansion of two more teams have any impact

893
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: on the direction of the league in terms of games played, travel,

894
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: how they renavigate some of this stuff.

895
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's a it's a good question.

896
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 7: I just haven't heard that, you know, as part of

897
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 7: the talking points just yet, you know it. The schedule

898
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 7: thing is is it's funny we have our annual anonymous

899
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 7: player poll coming out in a couple of weeks here

900
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 7: and is a little sneak preview to that. One of

901
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 7: the questions is if you could be commissioner for a

902
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 7: day and push one thing through, what might it be?

903
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 7: And it's you know, some of the answers will make

904
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 7: Steve Kerr smile because it's a lot of players indicating

905
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 7: that they'd like to see fewer games.

906
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: And I do wonder to your point, if.

907
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 7: You if you add two teams and the mapkets a

908
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 7: little even more complicated, you know, how does that change

909
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 7: the conversation?

910
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: But so far not hearing that.

911
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 7: And I think that, you know, the dilution of talent

912
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 7: question is certainly a fair one. It's hard to get

913
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 7: I think, to me like clarity on even my own

914
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 7: opinion there, because there's not a true line between tanking

915
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: and talent level in the NBA because you are willfully sitting,

916
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 7: you know, capable players in order to improve your draft stock.

917
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 7: That's different than just having a bunch of bad teams.

918
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 7: When them Outabayo put eighty three on the Wizards, it's

919
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 7: not because they have no good players. It's because the

920
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 7: few good players they have we're sitting on a bench

921
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 7: and shut down for the year. So you know, but

922
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 7: I think that's another fair concern as well. But you know,

923
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: money makes the world go round, and right now, the

924
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 7: business kind of perspective from the NBA makes sense for them,

925
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 7: and then they're going to afford ahead.

926
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: So interesting, Sam is we're watching the NFL now. I

927
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: mean their goal and this sort of made this clear,

928
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: is to get to sixteen international games a year. And

929
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: then you know, the Niners are going to Australia and

930
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna play a game in Paris this year. They've

931
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: done Brazil, they're going to Mexico City, like they've gone

932
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: all over the globe now and their goal is to

933
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: have every play one every year. The NBA to me

934
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: seem like the league that was growing globally faster at

935
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: one point by the NBA Africa league and all that

936
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: that's happening. You look at all the international players being

937
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: the top talent in the NBA as it stands right now,

938
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I think you could name five or six as the

939
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: best players of the league before you even get to

940
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: an American and Anthony Edwards or something. What's the NBA's

941
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: logic and the expansion of the league at home versus overseas,

942
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: because it seems to me the overseas game is where

943
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: you can find more here. But the dilution of talent

944
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: is one thing. But what's their logic here in the

945
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: expansion here in the US.

946
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 7: It's those two things go together. Because so the NBA

947
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 7: Europe venture that the league is growing on at the moment,

948
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 7: the money on that excuse me, on that front is

949
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 7: my understanding is is kind of putting them in a

950
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 7: more advantageous position to do expansion. I mean, first of all,

951
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 7: you know, the the expansion fees that come with this

952
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 7: are are pretty exorbitant until a lot of pockets are

953
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 7: going to get filled around the NBA for every single team.

954
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 7: But it is it is interesting to your point that

955
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 7: it wasn't too long ago that it seemed like the

956
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 7: NBA was going to go for the world domination route

957
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 7: themselves and to actually have you know, NBA teams on

958
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 7: the other side.

959
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Of the globe, on the other side of the pond.

960
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 7: Well, you know, and even not to get too like

961
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 7: Jetsons on everybody, but there was a minute when they

962
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 7: started talking about, you know, could the supersonic kind of

963
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 7: flight come flay apart and we didn't know where air

964
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 7: travel was going, and that that's just not feasible, you

965
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So now it's plan B is

966
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 7: you have kind of a you know, as sister product

967
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 7: if you will, on the other side of the pond

968
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 7: that has your brand on it. You make a bunch

969
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 7: of money that way by by kind of you know,

970
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 7: reshaping the euroleagues that have had a hard time making money.

971
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 3: And then you know, you just go the expansion route

972
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: back home.

973
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 7: Now, the backstory with the two cities in question or

974
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 7: in the spotlight with Vegas and Seattle is obviously the

975
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 7: Seattle you get to finally put a team back there

976
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 7: and and right the wrong that was the Sonics leaving town,

977
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 7: and then Vegas has just been it's it's long since

978
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 7: become a partner of the league's you know, the Summer

979
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 7: League being there every single year, all Star Games, NBA Cups,

980
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 7: things of that nature. You know, they had this deep,

981
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 7: long relationship with Sin City and you know now want

982
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 7: to make that more.

983
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: Of a thing as well. So we'll see how it goes.

984
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: It's talk to Sam amic on the Uma guest Line.

985
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: The Warrior's still hopeful this offseason they could pull off

986
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: Yiannis trade. And we're always curious about what's going on

987
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: with Giannis and his relationship with the Bucks. They want

988
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: to shut him down for the rest of the season

989
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: with the Bucks pretty much being out of it and

990
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 4: he wants to play. Kind of a Max Crosby situation

991
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: going on. But how do the Bucks view this right now?

992
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 5: Sam?

993
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: Where they are they trying to make it where they

994
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: don't want him to play because then they're in hopes

995
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: of trading him this offseason, or they're gonna do what

996
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: he wants because they want himnd Fences at the moment.

997
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: It's interesting they yeah, I mean, not a good look.

998
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: You know, it's not been a great look all year,

999
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 7: but you didn't really have times when Jannis.

1000
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: And the Bucks.

1001
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 7: The reality of this situation is they are at odds

1002
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: with with you know the way they see his health

1003
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 7: right now, he wants to play, and I mean, listen,

1004
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 7: I've covered so much of his career. The reality is that, Okay,

1005
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 7: the team is saying that he's not medically cleared, and

1006
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 7: then he hyper extended his knee, and then it's black

1007
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 7: and white that he should not be playing. He is

1008
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 7: adamant that he is ready to go and that he

1009
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 7: can play and that he should play. What I do,

1010
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 7: you know, think is fair to highlight as context is

1011
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 7: that you know, when they were in the NBA Finals

1012
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 7: against the Phoenix Suns and he had also hyper extended

1013
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 7: his knee.

1014
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, they were none.

1015
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 7: Too pleased when he was able to drag his battered

1016
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 7: body out there and play on the behalf of the

1017
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 7: bucks because of the stakes, and he did that and

1018
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 7: it was in sports terms, it was pretty heroic stuff,

1019
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 7: and then won the championship. You know now that they

1020
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 7: need to lose because the season is lost and it

1021
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 7: would help their position draft wise. Suddenly you know they

1022
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: don't want the heroics. And when it comes to a

1023
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 7: guy like Giannis, who A wants to compete if he

1024
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 7: can compete, and B you know, I think and I

1025
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 7: can't read his mind. I think if you look at

1026
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 7: the summertime and the question of that, if he's gonna

1027
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 7: finally really push his way out in a more aggressive

1028
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 7: type of way. The optics of this situation, in my opinion,

1029
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 7: they make the Bucks look like the bad guy and

1030
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 7: make it a little bit easier for him to skip

1031
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 7: town where he can say, look, they wouldn't even let

1032
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 7: me compete. So yeah, it's it's prickly out there right now.

1033
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 7: But they are absolutely at odds on this situation.

1034
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: Is there a case for the Dubs? She's doing this

1035
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: with staff too.

1036
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean that's a good question, no, because I mean

1037
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: the drafts, you know, incentive.

1038
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 7: Is not the same for the Warriors, you know what

1039
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just not And on top of that,

1040
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 7: you know, I mean it's you have a puncher's chance

1041
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: and you're going to be in the tenth spot the

1042
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 7: Bucks or they're they're deep in the eleventh spot or

1043
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 7: unofficially out of this thing. So you know, that's the

1044
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 7: idea that would be more akin to the Mavericks years ago.

1045
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 7: If you guys remember, oh yeah, although this well this

1046
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 7: but it actually paid off, so I mean, flat yeah,

1047
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 7: it worked, but you know that was, you know, seeing

1048
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 7: as kind of sacrilege that you had to play in

1049
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 7: Chance and you and you kind of kick that away

1050
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 7: to me that the Warrior situation is different.

1051
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: You always remember Jason Kin that press conference announced everybody

1052
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: that was gonna be out of that game, Sam and

1053
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: then saying, well, you know you you can't cheat the game.

1054
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: It's like, well, yeah, that's exactly what you're.

1055
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: Doing, Jason. You can't tell people you're cheating the game.

1056
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: No, exactly one more for you.

1057
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: You wrote about Victor women Yama, and you know, if

1058
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 4: he's not MVP, you know he truly is this season

1059
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: with what he's accomplishing. And you know SGA a year

1060
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: ago getting MVP in finals, MVP, he's the favorite right now.

1061
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: But in the truest sense of m VP, doesn't that

1062
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: belong to Victor? Because I know that maybe SGA is

1063
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: having a better season, but taking a team that was

1064
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 4: below five hundred and now that the two seed in

1065
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: the Western Conference. I would say he's kind of epitomizing

1066
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: what an MVP is. At the same time, do you

1067
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 4: think that writers this time around would have it's only

1068
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: one year removed, Sam, but would they have SGA fatigue

1069
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 4: after one year of him getting MVP.

1070
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 7: I'll think the last question first, I don't think so,

1071
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 7: and I'm probably a good case study for that, because

1072
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 7: you know, honestly, at times SGA's you know, antics and

1073
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 7: salvating have driven me crazy, like they have a lot

1074
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 7: of the fans. But my goodness, you know, the way

1075
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 7: that he took on that challenge of Joker and the

1076
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 7: Nuggets last week and hitting you know, kind of unofficially

1077
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 7: two game winners in the same game, and just the

1078
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: way he's competed and played for quite some time now,

1079
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 7: I was very comfortable voting for him again and probably

1080
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 7: would still right now. To your point though about Webby, Admittedly,

1081
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 7: when I wrote this column, I was kind of straddling

1082
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 7: the defense of like, all right, is this an MVP

1083
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 7: column most Valuable Player?

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00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Or am I writing a most Valuable person column? Because

1085
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: I do believe that.

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00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 7: A lot of the things he's done this season have

1087
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 7: really helped the NBA when it comes to its pr

1088
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 7: and the optics around the league. He's been a real

1089
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 7: bright spot amid a bunch of controversies. But when you

1090
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 7: dig in on the basketball stuff, I'm kind of with you,

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00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 7: Derek that I was like man, I mean net ratings,

1092
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 7: just to give a few quick stats, the net rating

1093
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 7: swing for both guys tells you just, you know, point

1094
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 7: blank how they look when.

1095
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: The guys on the floor versus off.

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00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: The Spurs are sixteen points better with Wemby on versus

1097
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 7: off with SGA. It's just shy of ten, a pretty

1098
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 7: significant margin between the two.

1099
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: And it's the defense.

1100
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 7: Like, the bigger conversation is why don't we, you know,

1101
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 7: why do we continue to undervalue.

1102
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: Defense in this game?

1103
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 7: Because what Wemby does on that side is tremendous and

1104
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 7: it far exceeds what SGA provides for the Thunder on

1105
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 7: the defensive side. And then you talk about narrative, like, yeah,

1106
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 7: a team that had thirty eight wins last year didn't

1107
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 7: make the playoffs.

1108
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: Looking like an actual title contender.

1109
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 7: And I think the only chance he has is they've

1110
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 7: got to pass the Thunder in the standings and have

1111
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 7: the league's best record, because that will force voters to

1112
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 7: really look at it. I don't think the voter fatigue

1113
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 7: thing is there yet with SCA. I think most people

1114
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 7: are are pretty comfortable voting for him.

1115
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Boys. You hear Sam and it covers the NBA for

1116
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: the Athletic MAKESU you're reading him following him, Sam, appreciate

1117
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: the time as always, enjoy the weekend and we'll talk

1118
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: to you next week.

1119
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: Thanks Sam, all right, boys, be good.

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00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: Thank you you the great Sam A make of the Athletic. Yeah,

1121
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm here among the difference between the situation the Warriors

1122
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: and the Bucks are in. But I think just in

1123
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: terms of like what you're hoping for for the future,

1124
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: it's sort of I think there's a case to be made,

1125
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: but for the season itself, No, it's a much different

1126
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: different spot. Both organizations are in where yeah, Giannis may

1127
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: be traded this offseason, that's not the case with Steph either. No, no, no,

1128
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: they're looking for value here and also draft pick status

1129
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: versus the Warriors where they're not looking for that pick

1130
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: to change their fortunes next year.

1131
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it'll get me wrong.

1132
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: I want Steff to return and then we have a

1133
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: better chance of that playing game where it's probably gonna

1134
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: be nine versus ten.

1135
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: But it's only you know, it only increased their chances

1136
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: by a little.

1137
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: Bit at this point with ok, is that what you're

1138
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: starting done?

1139
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: I mean I even think that's a tall order where

1140
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: I don't even know if they're gonna beat the ninth

1141
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: seed in this plan.

1142
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm at a sway. You get

1143
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: out of that and you gotta beat another team, you

1144
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: get a date with OKC.

1145
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 4: Yeah cool, And I have no idea, like sick, Let's

1146
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: be honest, I have no idea how STEP's gonna play

1147
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: with uh Christaps porzingis at all, like he still needs

1148
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: that acclamation per.

1149
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 5: He's probably gonna get it because Tegus Pengers.

1150
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, takeas pingus because sham Shawne yesterday said that most

1151
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: likely he's gonna come back by the end of the month.

1152
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 5: Here, But I don't know how it's gonna look.

1153
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: He's like tingus. I'm just gonna run around. Yeah, you

1154
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: find me, you basically break.

1155
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: It's not hard to play with Steph Curry, but some

1156
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 5: guys can't play with Steph Curry.

1157
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: He's off the ball. Adam Copelande pop Dan done with us.

1158
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: We did his double dip just a little while ago.

1159
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: I feel good being one to know in my first dip.

1160
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, take pride in that.

1161
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: It felt good. You've how many dips have you've done?

1162
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: Anything?

1163
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: Like four I've done on a little dips here.

1164
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: I've I've done one against me, one against Silver, Yes,

1165
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: one against uh.

1166
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: I filled my pops left early. I did one. Do

1167
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 5: we do want with Ted Dan?

1168
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: No?

1169
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 6: Yes, uh, I don't know if we didn't want with Ted? Yeah,

1170
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: we did Tittle, we did Krueger.

1171
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: So I think I think this was your fifth then

1172
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: me Silver, Tittle, Krueger fourth, oh, fourth, So you're one

1173
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: and three.

1174
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 5: I won to three.

1175
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: That's a tough deal in this.

1176
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 10: We'll start off good.

1177
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Dan's a hard judge.

1178
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Well, then I'll tell you that there's parameters that you weren't.

1179
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: You got to like you have to pay attention to

1180
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: his exact rules. Give me one example, Well.

1181
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 5: He gave me a point because I went first. I

1182
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: should I guess I should go first.

1183
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Every time you kind of got sort of the one

1184
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: point you got was kind of sad too, sort of sorry,

1185
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: what just by going first?

1186
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: Well I thought it was a good point though.

1187
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: We'll take you a quick break when we come on back.

1188
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 5: Nothing for Khalil Mack in our cesspadis Jesus.

1189
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: Since you know tomorrow we have we have our show

1190
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: at Jack's Restaurant and Bar in Newark. Come on out,

1191
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: by New Park. Mall come on by, say what up.

1192
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna be eating, drinking, watching March Madness. Giving an

1193
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: update on some of the March Madness games going on

1194
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: right now North Carolina against VCU, the eleven six matchup.

1195
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: The Rams trail by four right now, nine minutes to

1196
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: play in the first half. We've got some of that

1197
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: going on over on my Kohlers g MBR ten fifty.

1198
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 2: But what we also have to get into is tomorrow

1199
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: is the deadline for the Trent Williams ten million dollar

1200
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: contract bonus?

1201
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: Right yes?

1202
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: Is this Trent Williams think going to be ironed out

1203
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: or figured out by tomorrow?

1204
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 5: Run out of time here because I think it's midnight.

1205
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: By to night.

1206
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: They can also push that deadline. We'll find out more.

1207
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: Talk a bit about this, we'll get you the update.

1208
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: And people are asking, outside of Jack's tomorrow, how are

1209
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: they spending their weekend? And even without Tim here, Dan

1210
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: Dunn has delivered and they can be our Dirty Work

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Speaker 2: unsponsored Area weekend sports calendar that's coming your way next.

1212
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Speaker 2: It's Dirty Work on a Thursday only here on the

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