WEBVTT - Barbara Stone on John's Primary Strategy

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>on The John Phillips Show, broadcasting live from Cairo in Seattle, Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Randy Wiggs in Culver City, John.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an update on the Sandy fire that is

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<v Speaker 2>burning in Siam Valley. Is now up to about five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred acres. There are mandatory evacuations. You can check that

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<v Speaker 2>out at emergency dot Ventura County dot gov. We have

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<v Speaker 2>seen some structures threatened. It's not looking great out there.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is not so if you're in Ventura County,

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<v Speaker 1>stay safe because these fires can move at a very

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<v Speaker 1>rapid pace. Eight hundred two two two five two two

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<v Speaker 1>two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two

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<v Speaker 1>five two two two. It is our pleasure to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>our next guest to the program. She is a professor

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<v Speaker 1>of political science emeritus at California State University at Fullerton.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Barbara Stone.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Hi, John, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so Earlier today I talked about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the emails that I've been getting from people

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<v Speaker 1>who are upset with me for saying that Republicans should

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<v Speaker 1>play for both spots on the November ballot. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the only path forward I see for a Republican governor

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<v Speaker 1>in California, and given the turnout numbers that we have

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and of course those can change. Democrats could

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<v Speaker 1>strategically be holding on to their ballots until the very

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<v Speaker 1>last minute, and those numbers could change wildly.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the future. If we could see the future, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we'd be working right now. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>I see it is that is the best if not

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<v Speaker 1>only play at winning and trying to get behind one

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<v Speaker 1>candidate to make it a Republican versus a Democratic race

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<v Speaker 1>in November is a sure way to lose your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>My first thought is I hope that your listeners understand

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<v Speaker 4>that you are by far the most intelligent voice on

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<v Speaker 4>this sub checked out there, and no one else seems

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<v Speaker 4>to quite get it. And that doesn't mean they have

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<v Speaker 4>to do what you're telling them, but they need to

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<v Speaker 4>listen because it's the best information they're going to get.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as what Republican voters should do.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually.

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<v Speaker 4>John Sometimes I think I'm about to say something truly

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<v Speaker 4>profound that's just out of step with the way normal

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<v Speaker 4>people think. In this particular case, what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>say is your listeners have a choice. If they haven't

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<v Speaker 4>voted yet, they can do what you repeated or Ingram

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<v Speaker 4>is having urged, which is get together vote for Steve Hilton,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we won't be embarrassed by not having a

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<v Speaker 4>Republican in the runoff.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fine if that's how you think. Unfortunately, at this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>the California Republican Party is an embarrassment. And I can

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<v Speaker 4>tell you how it got there over many years. But

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom line is we're not going to win. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care who we run for governor. That person will

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<v Speaker 4>get plus or minus forty percent, the Democrat will get

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<v Speaker 4>the sixty percent, and that will be the end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But just look at what happened two years ago with

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<v Speaker 4>the US Senate when Adam Schiff beat Steve Garvey. Steve

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<v Speaker 4>Garvey absolutely stopped campaigning, but it didn't really matter. He

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<v Speaker 4>got about what Republicans get. So if that to you

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<v Speaker 4>is making us look good so we can cover up

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<v Speaker 4>how bad we are, how weak we are in this state,

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<v Speaker 4>then fine, you should vote that way. If, on the

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<v Speaker 4>other hand, you want even some little chance of winning,

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<v Speaker 4>it's small, but the chance of winning that by the

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<v Speaker 4>way is causing mat hysteria among the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>That's worth it for itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Then what you do is you try to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the Hilton Bianco bit. I don't know if it will work,

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<v Speaker 4>but it would be a giant something if you could

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<v Speaker 4>pull it off, and you would at least have some

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<v Speaker 4>chance of winning. Now, if you've given up on winning,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter, does it, Which is also part of

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<v Speaker 4>what's wrong with the party in the state and what

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<v Speaker 4>makes us a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>So you could argue who cares?

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know. I like to have, when presented

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<v Speaker 4>with an opportunity, at least take the chance. The only

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<v Speaker 4>really funny thing I wonder how many people are registering

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<v Speaker 4>what you're urging people to do. I am in a

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<v Speaker 4>place where I interact with significant numbers of people who

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<v Speaker 4>are educated and quite well to do. You can't believe

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<v Speaker 4>the people I'm finding that don't even know we have

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<v Speaker 4>a top two system. So it's hard to explain this

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<v Speaker 4>to them in terms of the top two primary if

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<v Speaker 4>they don't want, no, we have one, and I would say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd be shocked at the people who, oh, really did

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<v Speaker 4>we do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honey, we did that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's hard to get people to focus on that

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<v Speaker 4>when they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure there's something out there in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of psychology that could explain this. But if you're part

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<v Speaker 1>of a group that consistently loses, whether it's sports, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's in politics, whatever, you just kind of accept it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of sign on to this psychology of losing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you in your mind, you know how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose, you know what the beats are, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of ready for it. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>with these emails that I get it is, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying isn't going to work, so what's the point

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<v Speaker 1>of even trying. And then number two is and the

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<v Speaker 1>system is rigged against us anyway, so we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>lose for that reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And they just go on and on and on and

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<v Speaker 2>on and on, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They list me all of these reasons why the one

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity they have to win isn't going to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't wrap my head around that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know, I don't have a background in

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<v Speaker 1>that world, but it's a crazy way to look at things.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm no psychologists, but I do know you can

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<v Speaker 4>get into a loser mentality. And I'm not even going

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<v Speaker 4>to say these are bad people. We've lost so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I can understand going, well, it's not worth the effort

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<v Speaker 4>because I were, we're not going to win anyway. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>if that's how you feel, then why well, First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>those people may not vote, that's number one. Secondarily, though

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<v Speaker 4>they're clearly paying attention, or they wouldn't be listening to you.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the kind of people who should take the jump,

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<v Speaker 4>take the leap. Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>What have you got to lose?

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<v Speaker 4>And if nothing else you go, what could you accomplish?

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<v Speaker 4>Or you would really upset the Democrats if that actually happened.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, the Democrats know they can't let it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen that rather awful ad where they've pieced

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<v Speaker 4>together I don't know what they are making Chad by

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<v Speaker 4>uncle look like he's pro immigrant or illegal immigrant?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I saw that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if what I read is true, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>pair it with Donald Trump endorsing Steve Hilton and say

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<v Speaker 4>this is paid for by Steve Hilton for governor twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty six, that's I read actually paid for by the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Governors Association, and that what they did when they

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<v Speaker 4>were oh their version of copywriting names for their pack

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<v Speaker 4>that operates here. One of the names is Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 4>for Governor twenty twenty six, something like, sponsored by patriots

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<v Speaker 4>who want to make sure no Republican gets elected governor.

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<v Speaker 3>So that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was National Democrat money to make sure that what your

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<v Speaker 4>people won't vote for didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Something's wrong with that picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And that should tell you something. If the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>is spending money telling you not to do what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you to do or what I'm telling you to consider,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's the threat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, they can figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, John, I can't be mad at people for not

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<v Speaker 4>seeing things as clearly as some of us do. But seriously,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, if that's how you look at it, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no risk here. Okay, it's not like your If you

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<v Speaker 4>believe it's all fixed and we can't do this and

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<v Speaker 4>we can't do that, then there's no risk. Go for

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<v Speaker 4>the two Republicans and if you get it, what a

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful time we'll have.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's shift gears here for a second and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>these turnout numbers so far among Democrats, and these numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are nowhere near where the Democratic Party wants them to be.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of that do you think is them hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on to their ballots strategically to vote at the last

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<v Speaker 1>minute because they don't know which Democrat will emerge as

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<v Speaker 1>the front runner. And how much of it is them

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing what the hell to do because no one

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<v Speaker 1>is telling them what to do, Not Galvin Newsom, not

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi, not Kamala Harris, none of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Two things.

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<v Speaker 4>One I think that you're point on that that you

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<v Speaker 4>were making earlier is a really good one. And with

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<v Speaker 4>their big leaders not telling them who to vote for,

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<v Speaker 4>they may not even really realize there's an election. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no big stuff out there. No one's excited over

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<v Speaker 4>these subernatorial candidates. There are no ballot propositions that are

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<v Speaker 4>spending billions of dollars. They just may not really be focusing.

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<v Speaker 4>What I think might also have an influence. I tried

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<v Speaker 4>looking one of the sets of numbers I saw looking

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<v Speaker 4>at the raw numbers, and actually from twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 4>at that point, the raw number of Democrats wasn't that

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<v Speaker 4>far off. If that's all you looked at. What was

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<v Speaker 4>off was the relatively speaking significant increase in republic It

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<v Speaker 4>can turn out now you could read that as more enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems to me possible, although I don't know anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems to me possible that remember during Trump's first administration,

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<v Speaker 4>he and all the other top people were going, the

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<v Speaker 4>system's rigged, they're stealing ballots. Vote on election day, do

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<v Speaker 4>not mail in ballots. Vote on election day. And I

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<v Speaker 4>can tell you there's still a lot of Republicans who

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<v Speaker 4>get very nervous at the idea of mailing in ballots.

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<v Speaker 4>But it strikes me as possible that we've moved on

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<v Speaker 4>enough from that that you're seeing Republicans who are perfectly

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<v Speaker 4>happy to vote and who've gotten over that don't mail

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<v Speaker 4>it in, In which case I'm not quite sure how

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<v Speaker 4>to interpret this, except I'll take it, and your listeners

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<v Speaker 4>should always remember when they talk about independence, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>know squad about those people, except that there are very

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<v Speaker 4>few true independents in this world. So they all tend

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<v Speaker 4>to vote consistently one party or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't know which these are.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of the fact that Matt Mahon

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<v Speaker 1>who is running as a relatively successful big city mayor

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<v Speaker 1>in California against an awful field of Democratic candidates, that

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<v Speaker 1>there is no appetite for him in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 4>I've tried to come up with any sort of positive

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<v Speaker 4>explanation for that, and all I can say is that

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<v Speaker 4>what drives the Democrat Party in this state is nationally

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<v Speaker 4>are the way out progressives who are defining themselves as

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<v Speaker 4>democratic socialists and they have no use for the man.

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<v Speaker 3>Just leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's not just him, because Antonio Viragosu was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to brand himself the same way as a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>who is competent enough to deliver services to the people

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<v Speaker 1>that Democrats care about and do it without busting the

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<v Speaker 1>budget that in the old days was a new deal Democrat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, no, no, But in today's Democrat Party, at least

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<v Speaker 4>at the activist level, there's no place for him. We

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<v Speaker 4>should scare everybody in this state which republic can stop

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there twiddling your thumbs. Take this gamble and if

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't work, take the next one. For heaven's sakes, people,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, what can we do? But yeah, no, I'm there,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've heard where he's not exciting. Oh come on,

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<v Speaker 4>hobby or but Sarah's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me a break. Although have I told you? Have

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<v Speaker 3>I told you?

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<v Speaker 4>My one awful level, My favorite candidate is Katie Porter

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<v Speaker 4>that she's actually pretty smart. She is incredibly condescending. She

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<v Speaker 4>can't help her personality, and what she says about the

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<v Speaker 4>others when they get on stage is worth the price

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<v Speaker 4>of admission.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her problem is not that she's dumb. Her problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that she has the personality of an hoa.

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<v Speaker 3>Except a little louder. Yeah, no, I buy that.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, the only thing I wish I was seeing,

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<v Speaker 4>because you realize she did twice called Chad Bionco cowboy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's wonderful. He should have run an ad

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<v Speaker 4>with vote for a cowboy Bianco.

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<v Speaker 3>But what can we do here?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>La is having a mary oral race right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Pratt is coming on very strong. We're now the

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<v Speaker 1>betting markets have him as a solid favorite as making

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<v Speaker 1>the November runoff. Originally, Karen Bass wanted to run against

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer and not Nythia Ramen. It was reported this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>that her strategy has now changed, where now she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to run against Spencer Pratt in the November matchup,

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<v Speaker 1>she would prefer to run against Nitthia Rahmen in part

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<v Speaker 1>because of Nitthia Rahman's poor performance at the debate.

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<v Speaker 4>You mean the fact she didn't know which way was.

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<v Speaker 2>Up that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've got the right woman. This ties into something

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<v Speaker 4>I was saying a moment ago, John, about the low

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<v Speaker 4>level of information of American voters in LA. Remember that

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<v Speaker 4>Pratt should be just dead on arrivals because he is

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<v Speaker 4>a Republican in a city where what do they even

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<v Speaker 4>have a quarter of them registered Republicans. However, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>non partisan race, and you go, oh, everyone knows he's

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<v Speaker 4>a Republican, No, darling, everybody he does not know he's

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<v Speaker 4>the Republican. So you're going on whether or not he

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<v Speaker 4>can break through people's consciousness, and boy has he? You

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<v Speaker 4>know whose consciousness? By the way, John, he's broken through

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<v Speaker 4>on is the media. He puts on a show for them.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows how to do that. That's more or less

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<v Speaker 4>what he did. And they're slurping it up. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not on social media, but my sister sends me the

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<v Speaker 4>ads people are running on his behalf good happen in

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<v Speaker 4>heaven here comes Batman to save the city of La.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tremendous show. People are paying attention. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you have people who are just invested in and

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<v Speaker 4>Karen Bass because.

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<v Speaker 3>They like her.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's entirely possible under the circumstances that he

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<v Speaker 4>can get in the runoff. By the way you do

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<v Speaker 4>parallels or to the Dick Rardon times when you had

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<v Speaker 4>serious problems. La has serious problems that all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>people recognize. And so while I'm certainly not saying he

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<v Speaker 4>could win, I'm certainly not saying that anybody voting for

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<v Speaker 4>Nicia Rahman is going to turn around and vote for

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<v Speaker 4>Spencer Pratt. But you know, you never know what people do,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you don't get in the runoffs, then it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't how hard of a job is the California Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party going to have turning people out in November if

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<v Speaker 1>they have Karen Bass on the ballot, who nobody gets

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<v Speaker 1>worked up over, who likes her. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic nominee for governor that no one wanted in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, and you have three or four competitive congressional

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<v Speaker 1>elections in the state, and everything else is a foregone conclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get people excited.

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<v Speaker 2>To vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat Party? Yeah, you have a real part problem. My

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<v Speaker 4>best guess is what you do Now, I'm totally making

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<v Speaker 4>this up. If you're a good consultant, you look, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't get people excited over my candidates. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>four years ago, like for Karen bath as I recalled,

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<v Speaker 4>they brought Joe Biden out. I know, the lovely Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>was here, but they brought every high ranking Democrat in

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<v Speaker 4>the country out. Well, I don't think Joe could find

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<v Speaker 4>his way here this year. And I'm not really sure

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<v Speaker 4>anyone wants Kamala. Oh god, that moment. I'm sorry, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not nice, that's petty. But so you're going to look.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I were, which I definitely am not a

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<v Speaker 4>consultant worrying about that, I would go, Okay, what's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be on the ballot? There are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>some things on the ballot that people are spending big

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<v Speaker 4>money on, and some the Billionaire's tax by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>being one of them. And somewhere I need to work

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<v Speaker 4>myself in there so that when they spend lots of

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<v Speaker 4>money to get people out, I can piggyback on it.

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<v Speaker 4>And like the billionaires tax, that straight up union, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you will have all the money spent on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side. I would look at the what are going

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<v Speaker 4>to seem like the big issues, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>people are going to get excited over these candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Right, Professor, barbar Stone, Professor of Political Science Emeritus

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<v Speaker 1>at California State University at Fullerton. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 2>And right now it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to open up the California Crime blodder.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened yet again, nye See. Time for the California

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<v Speaker 2>crime blodder and Randy.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say this is a new age

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crime because it involves crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of people from Tennessee thought it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea to come to California and strike it

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<v Speaker 2>rich by kidnapping crypto bros. Go oh for more on this,

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<v Speaker 2>We got a kpix in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 5>Three men from Tennessee accused of traveling to the Bay

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<v Speaker 5>Area to kidnap wealthy cryptocurrency holders. Katie Nielsen has the

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<v Speaker 5>wild details on the home invasions and why crypto is

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<v Speaker 5>such an attractive target.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because it's untraceable, because we pretty much invented

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<v Speaker 2>a form of currency that is perfect for criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the new poker chips. You know, there are certain

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<v Speaker 2>things that are a net positive or a net negative

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<v Speaker 2>for society. How is crypto not a net negative?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. I can't tell you the number of

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<v Speaker 1>times people have tried to explain how crypto works.

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<v Speaker 6>To me.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't understand it, so I'm a hard pass.

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<v Speaker 7>This is all very reminiscent of the home invasion robberies

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<v Speaker 7>that were happening in La about ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also nine years ago, eight years ago, seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>six years ago. Fore.

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<v Speaker 1>I can keep going. And in the valley it's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on even longer than that.

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<v Speaker 7>We're thieves. We're targeting influencers and celebrities who were flaunting handbags, watches,

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<v Speaker 7>and jewelry on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be doing that. Don't be flashing your cash. The

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<v Speaker 2>crooks are paying attention.

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<v Speaker 7>The new flex those who are posting their crypto wallets.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're posting your crypto statements to show how much

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<v Speaker 2>money you made on doge coin, someone's looking to rob you.

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<v Speaker 1>No more flashing cash and talking trash.

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<v Speaker 7>Dozens of pages of federal documents paint the picture of

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<v Speaker 7>the crypto crime spree at the end of last year,

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<v Speaker 7>as three suspects, Elijah Armstrong, Nino Chindevon, and Jaden Rucker,

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<v Speaker 7>all from the Nashville area, came to California.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's not even Memphis trash. We're getting Nashville trash

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<v Speaker 2>out here.

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<v Speaker 7>Came to California for one purpose, stealing crypto. The document

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<v Speaker 7>show they started the home invasion spree in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 7>on November twenty second, then went to San Jose, Sunny Vale,

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<v Speaker 7>and Los Angeles, all in the period of about a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Wells, they're hidding every part of the state that Southwest

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines flies to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably how they got there.

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<v Speaker 7>Sources say. The victim of the first robbery is a

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<v Speaker 7>well known tech startup investor, and according to documents, on

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<v Speaker 7>November twenty second, one of the suspects posed as a

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<v Speaker 7>UPS delivery person needing a signature for a package. To

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<v Speaker 7>force his way into the house. The suspect bound the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I think we got to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the signature thing, because people can pretend to be

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of different people, and I shouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>sign something so you deliver my wine club shipment.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that the object that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>after is new age and modern, but the method that

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<v Speaker 1>they use to get it is very three stooges.

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<v Speaker 7>The suspect bound the victim with duct tape and threaten

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<v Speaker 7>to kill him while demanding access to the victim's cryptocurrency accounts,

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<v Speaker 7>ultimately making off with more than six and a half

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<v Speaker 7>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>That's quite a heist that it is We've seen bad

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<v Speaker 6>actors gravitate to where the money is, whether that's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>narcotics or other types of areas. And today we're seeing

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<v Speaker 6>more and more thefts involving cryptocurrency because now you can

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<v Speaker 6>steal funds at the speed of the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Airy Redboard, We're not talking about stealing your cash or

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<v Speaker 2>stealing your diamonds. Then they have to trade for cash.

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<v Speaker 2>They can straight up log into your account, transfer all

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<v Speaker 2>the crypto to them and you will never get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where kidnappings are going now correct, where

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<v Speaker 1>they're not asking for cash anymore, they're asking for crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Airy Redboard is a former federal prosecutor and now works

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<v Speaker 7>with TRM Labs, a blockchain intelligence company. He isn't directly

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<v Speaker 7>involved in the Californian cases, but says these types of

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<v Speaker 7>home invasion crypto are getting more common.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't need to take someone at gunpoint to their

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<v Speaker 6>ATM machine anymore. They hold their ATM machine in the

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<v Speaker 6>palm of your hand.

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<v Speaker 7>Documents show the crew went on to another home in

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<v Speaker 7>San Jose on December sixth and tried to get in

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<v Speaker 7>by posing as a door dash driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you knew you didn't order any fries. That'd

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<v Speaker 2>be your first tip. Hey, I'm here with the big Mac.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't order a big Mac. Well someone here did.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll just throw this big mac away. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be right there, and tried to get in by

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<v Speaker 7>posing as a door dash driver, but the intended target

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<v Speaker 7>never came to the door. On December twenty second, the

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<v Speaker 7>documents say they went to Sunnyvale, where they once again

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<v Speaker 7>posed as food delivery drivers and attempted to get inside

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<v Speaker 7>the victim's home, but the victim fought back.

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<v Speaker 2>Now do you think they had a real bag of

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<v Speaker 2>food or they didn't even have They just had an

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<v Speaker 2>empty bag. So they were trying to really pull the

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<v Speaker 2>wool over your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, wait a minute, I don't smell any pizza. That

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a front.

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<v Speaker 7>But the victim fought back and the would be thieves

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<v Speaker 7>ran off. The last target was in Los Angeles, according

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<v Speaker 7>to the documents, on December thirty first, they posed as

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<v Speaker 7>a US Postal employee with a package.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how many costumes do these guys have?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like one of them might work at Central Casting.

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<v Speaker 2>They were ups, then they were door dash now that

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<v Speaker 2>the postman maybe one of them was dating a stripper.

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<v Speaker 7>They posed as a US Postal employee with a package

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<v Speaker 7>to get inside the home and demanded access to the

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<v Speaker 7>victim's crypto accounts, but got spooked by a helicopter flying

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<v Speaker 7>overhead and left.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's just LA. That's just the every single day

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<v Speaker 2>occurrence of the police helicopters. But I guess if you're

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<v Speaker 2>from tennis See, you're not used to that.

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<v Speaker 1>They think the cops are onto them, and little do

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<v Speaker 1>they know, it's just KTLA doing a traffic report, but got.

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<v Speaker 7>Spooped by a helicopter flying overhead and left. The documents

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<v Speaker 7>don't say if they were successful in stealing any cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 7>One question the documents don't answer is how the suspected

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<v Speaker 7>thieves new to target these specific individuals.

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<v Speaker 6>Oftentimes cryptocurrency founders or investors are very public people, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think part of what's been going on here is

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<v Speaker 6>you've had criminals who are doing online research and targeting

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<v Speaker 6>very specific people they know to have cryptocurrency holdings or

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<v Speaker 6>believe to have cryptocurrency holdings.

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<v Speaker 7>He said. Sometimes it's not even that complicated.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of crypto holders have high profiles social

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<v Speaker 6>media profiles.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're posting about how much money you're making with

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<v Speaker 2>your crypto, somebody's paying attention to it, and not to

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<v Speaker 2>give you props. Well, I don't understand the implt for

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<v Speaker 2>people to brag about their wealth on social media. And

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<v Speaker 2>you see this happening all the time. Where someone buys

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<v Speaker 2>a new car, they got to brag about it. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>has a new handbag, they have to brag about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone has new jewelry, they have to brag about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You do realize you're waving red in front of the ball. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're probably thinking, especially if you're a prominent crypto influencer,

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you pull, if you promote how much

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<v Speaker 2>money you made with a certain coin and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of idiots decide to spend their life savings on it,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to make a whole bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could also end up in the trunk of

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<v Speaker 1>someone's car and on your way to reno.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of crypto holders have high profiles social

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<v Speaker 6>media profiles, particularly on X and other platforms. Sometimes even

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<v Speaker 6>people will go as far.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so cautious now I post my vacation photos three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks later.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to ask you a question. I want

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<v Speaker 1>an honest answer. If a crypto influencer ho does nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but brag about their wealth and all of the expensive

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<v Speaker 1>toys that they own gets thrown in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>someone's trunk and kidnapped for days, do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>sympathy for that person at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't want anybody to be threatened with their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what I asked. Do you have any sympathy

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<v Speaker 2>for that person at all? No comment.

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<v Speaker 6>Particularly on x and other platforms. Sometimes even people will

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<v Speaker 6>go as far as to sort of show their crypto

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<v Speaker 6>wallets to compare and contrast them with others, which is

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<v Speaker 6>essentially showing your bank account holdings, and bad actors are

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<v Speaker 6>trolling these platforms looking for targets.

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<v Speaker 7>All three suspects are facing a number of federal charges,

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<v Speaker 7>including attempted kidnapping and conspiracy to commit robbery. If convicted,

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<v Speaker 7>they face twenty years to life in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, the crypto robbers that came here from

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee to steal the crypto holdings of dumb influencers who

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<v Speaker 2>were dumb enough to post about it on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. Everyone out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Should do everything they can to not make themselves a target.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in California, where nobody goes to jail for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wear any rings.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I do wear a.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch now, but that's just because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be late places. I don't wear fancy clothes. I wear

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<v Speaker 1>size fourteen orthopedic shoes. I drive a forward, for Heaven's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>I do everything I can to fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Under the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have a million and one problems and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need a gun stuck in my face to add

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<v Speaker 1>to the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and criminals would probably see you and just take

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<v Speaker 2>pity on you when they see your angels hat.

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<v Speaker 1>They should eight hundred two two two five two two

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<v Speaker 1>two East Telephone number one, eight hundred two two two

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<v Speaker 1>five two two two. And right now it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>open up the California crime bladders to catchh It his dummy.

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't make this stuff up. If we tried, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>hell no, I'm very point. Let me get up one

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<v Speaker 2>out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the California Crime Blodder and this edition takes us well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right next to my dentist office, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have yet another attempted burglary, this time in the mid

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<v Speaker 2>Wiltshire area, but this time the burglars got scared up

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<v Speaker 2>for more. Here is Fox in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 8>Local homeowners scares off a group of burglars trying to

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<v Speaker 8>break into his house in the mid Wiltshire area. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 8>LAPD says the suspects are still on the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we knew that part.

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<v Speaker 8>It's La Box Seven's Nick Garcia talking with that homeowner

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<v Speaker 8>who says the thieves seem to have no fear.

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<v Speaker 9>The Los Angeles Police Department's helicopter over mid Wiltshire just

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<v Speaker 9>after midnight searching for at least three suspects, two of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably that helicopter that scared off the crypto kidnappers.

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<v Speaker 2>It all ties together.

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<v Speaker 9>Two of them seen here trying to break into a

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<v Speaker 9>home on Mullen Avenue near Ninth Street.

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<v Speaker 8>There's no evidence of any type of intrigue.

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<v Speaker 10>We have the helicopter above also helping us check backyards,

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<v Speaker 10>so there's no evidence of four centuries and they were

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<v Speaker 10>pretty brazen they.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this shows you the difference in resources.

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<v Speaker 2>If a burglary happens in Midwaleshire, they send out the chopper.

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<v Speaker 2>If they burglary happens in the valley, they send someone

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<v Speaker 2>out about an hour later, fill out a form online.

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<v Speaker 10>They were even when I yelled out, It seemed like

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<v Speaker 10>they were just continuing what they were going to do,

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<v Speaker 10>so we called nine one one.

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<v Speaker 9>When he continued yelling, they took off. This is just

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<v Speaker 9>the latest attempted breaking in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a neighborhood right, didn't Karen Bess just say

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<v Speaker 2>crime is at an all time low? Oh yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>doing a bang up job.

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<v Speaker 9>You see a neighborhood watch sign is posted not far

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<v Speaker 9>from where those attempted burglaries happened. But look the Homeolder

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<v Speaker 9>last night says it took nearly twenty minutes for LAPD

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<v Speaker 9>to actually get here. Just an example.

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<v Speaker 2>That is way faster than every other story we've heard

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<v Speaker 2>from the valley, where it's like an hour at best,

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<v Speaker 2>but not even close to Orange County.

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<v Speaker 9>But look the Homeolder last night says it took nearly

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<v Speaker 9>twenty minutes for LAPD to actually get here, Just an

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<v Speaker 9>example of how understaffed they may be. In fact, neighbors

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<v Speaker 9>in this residential area tell me, if they don't have

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<v Speaker 9>private security, they don't feel safe.

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<v Speaker 10>The mid Wiltshire area has just been hit so much

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<v Speaker 10>by home home break ins, and it seems like they're

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<v Speaker 10>getting more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>He says his homey feel like if they pay for

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<v Speaker 2>that guy in the CROWNVIC that's not a police officer

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<v Speaker 2>to drive around the neighborhood, they feel safe. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what if there are a bunch of guys in

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<v Speaker 2>ski masks, wearing all black clothing and having guns on them.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy in the CROWNVIC isn't sticking around either.

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<v Speaker 9>He says his home has been broken into three times

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<v Speaker 9>in the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, crime is down, Karen Bass, good job, madam Mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think this guy's voting? That's the problem though.

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<v Speaker 2>People get robbed left and right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's the population of la that are that's

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<v Speaker 1>the victim of these crimes, yet they still vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who allow it to happen. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know enough to give you any good information, but good

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<v Speaker 1>luck finding.

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<v Speaker 9>Someone who does. He says his home has been broken

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<v Speaker 9>into three times in the last four years.

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<v Speaker 10>Doesn't seem like they're afraid at all. There's no fear

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<v Speaker 10>for them, there's no consequences.

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<v Speaker 9>Nick Garcia Fox eleven News.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, just the latest attempted break in in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>But this time, Randy, at least you could hang your

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 1>hat on this. It wasn't in the San Fernando Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was nice. It's getting really irritating. Every single

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>day I pop open the youtubes and there's another valley

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<v Speaker 2>one up. There's another valley, one up, there's another valley one.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to at this point find someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is actually voting for Karen Bass in the election and

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<v Speaker 2>just pick their brain and just find out out why

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<v Speaker 2>what went wrong in your life that led you to

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<v Speaker 2>the point to where you think it's acceptable to live

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<v Speaker 2>this way. No, I could be like Jane Goodall and

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<v Speaker 2>just standing there with a clipboard writing notes like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we have someone who's been robbed multiple times. They can't

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>buy insurance anymore because they're once safe, neighborhood is now

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>too dangerous. There are homeless encampments on their blog, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet they seem okay with it. Hmm, let's study.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're so optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people out there who are going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She is gonna finish first. The only question is who

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<v Speaker 1>will finish second, don't forget George Gascone when he finally

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<v Speaker 1>lost the election, he finished first in the primary and

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<v Speaker 1>then he lost by a lot. And she's gonna finish

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<v Speaker 1>first in the primary. Let's just hope that she suffers

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<v Speaker 1>the same fate as George Gascon. All Right, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>one more hour coming up on The John Phillips Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Don't You Go Anywhere.