WEBVTT - Hour 2: Giants celebrate Wall of Fame Ceremony on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dirty Work with Copes and d Pop

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<v Speaker 1>on one oh four five FM and six eighty Am

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<v Speaker 1>The Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon, Adam Copeland Deepop hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with you from the patio at fifty eight Social.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants pregame at six fifteen and I had for a

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<v Speaker 2>seven to fifteen first pitch Giants and the Tigers opening

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<v Speaker 2>up a homestand and a three game series. It is

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<v Speaker 2>Wall of Fame weekend for the Giants, as they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put five more players up on the Wall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be It'll be Buster Posey, Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Panic, and Pablo Sandoval.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty big, pretty a good group. It's a great grove. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>My question to you for a couple of weeks now

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<v Speaker 4>is how fans can react to Buster Posey, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think fine, and you have those group of guys together,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's'ud be like a maybe it's where

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<v Speaker 4>he singled that at one point, but I think that

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<v Speaker 4>fans know to separate what's going on right now with

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<v Speaker 4>the team and what he's done in the front office.

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<v Speaker 3>And some will still even probably a plaut for that,

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that a lot of fans will just

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<v Speaker 4>remember Buster Posey the player, and that's the fair thing to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do this weekend. Yeah. Also there's so many other players

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<v Speaker 3>to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendon Crawford didn't get his flowers, Brandon Belt didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>his flowers. Were just fantastic. And they did that Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Belt Day that was earlier this year, right, they do

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<v Speaker 2>it Brandon Belt there. Yeah, they did the Belt Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they did earlier this year. Yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 2>year last, I can't remember. Yeah, all the all the

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<v Speaker 2>l's are running together now.

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<v Speaker 3>I only remember Bryce Olderch's Grand Slam. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>only funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only memory I have of Honestly, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>playing golf. You hit like four hundred bad shots. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that you would in one round. He shouldn't, or you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a really bad golfer, but uh you'd, uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>hit like one good One's the only one you remember. Like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember how that feel. So it keeps it

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<v Speaker 2>keeps you coming back. You're attempted to it anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think oddly enough, Buster Posy, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>will be the focal point of this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Nor should he. It'll be really cool to have Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Panic back. Yeah. I'm excited to hear from him. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. The guy who's gonna get the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest ovation, it's Pablo's animal. Oh yeah, that's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>against the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I love that they're doing that. He should

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<v Speaker 2>have his own day in and of itself. Don't forget he

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<v Speaker 2>left and came back. Ye ll let Pablo pitch a

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<v Speaker 2>guy with three home runs in a World Series game.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite things about Pablo Sandoval. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there are guys off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not thinking of any right now. And baseball

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<v Speaker 2>is like basketball and the NFL. Really, Basketball and baseball

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<v Speaker 2>become so systematic in the way that they do things right.

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<v Speaker 2>The sport with the most identity or unique identities is

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL now, because you don't get different, you get

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<v Speaker 2>different styles of play by different teams based on their philosophies,

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<v Speaker 2>their offensive philosophy, the defensive philosophy, or you're talking Mike

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald being a brilliant defensive play caller. Baseball used to

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<v Speaker 2>have that. He used to have teams that were heavy

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<v Speaker 2>pitching teams. And you'd have the teams that played small ball.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have the Cardinals in the eighties, it would swipe

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of bags. You'd have power teams like it would.

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<v Speaker 2>There would be a very style of play, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did their own thing, and now everything's just

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<v Speaker 2>become sort of uniform across the board. Pablo Sandoval was

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<v Speaker 2>what we'd call a bad ball hitter. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just that he was a bad ball hitter. He could

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<v Speaker 2>hit anything. Like bad ball hitters were guys that could hit.

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<v Speaker 2>They would just roll out of bed and hit. Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Walker was a good bad ball hitter. Vlad Guerrero one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best of all time. Those are two Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Famers. I just mentioned guys who you could bounce.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember there was one that, like a pitch bounced

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<v Speaker 2>in front of home plate and Vlad hit it off

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<v Speaker 2>the wall. Yeah, like he hit it like it was.

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<v Speaker 3>A golf ball. Pablo was like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't He didn't have a spot that you could

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<v Speaker 2>throw to that made you feel comfortable. He would chase,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was really really good at making contact. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I told you the first time I ever became

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<v Speaker 2>aware of Pablo I went to a single A game

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight. My buddy and I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a Sanjose Giants game, and he was the starting

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<v Speaker 2>catcher and he was hitting third or fourth in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>He homered in the game twice, once from each side

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<v Speaker 2>of the plate, and was the starting catcher. He was

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<v Speaker 2>hitting like three seventy or three eighty. When the game ended,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, My buddy and I were like, dam dude,

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be It's be great if this guy

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<v Speaker 2>worked out. Switch hitting catcher, Big pudgy dude had some

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<v Speaker 2>speed seemingly around the bases, and I believe was truly ambidextrous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they said he could throw just as good

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<v Speaker 2>lefty as he could righty for the most part, and

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<v Speaker 2>became a third baseman once he came up to the majors.

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<v Speaker 2>But they had the whole big money, little money. But

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<v Speaker 2>the point is is he was in single A in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, and I saw him in May

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. By August or September, he was in the majors.

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<v Speaker 2>He was by August he was in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>He skipped double A entirely sent him straight to Triple A.

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<v Speaker 2>Continued to hit, and he became one of the best,

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<v Speaker 2>most favorite giants of that entire era. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>people forget he was on the twenty ten World Series

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<v Speaker 2>team and lost his gig at third base. They were

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<v Speaker 2>starting Mike Fontno over at third base because Pablo went

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<v Speaker 2>through just an awful slump, and by twenty twelve he

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<v Speaker 2>shows up three home runs in that World Series game.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sitting up here in three zero two.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember remember I was I was gonna break it off

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<v Speaker 2>with that girl and she gave me the to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was here for that. No, No, she did tough deal. Kylin. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to tell you, oh real quick. I

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<v Speaker 3>was here for the ball game.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me your memories at Joe panic because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>here for all three World Series, he was here for

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<v Speaker 4>the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I mean, Joe Panick's one of the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that I think about. He's the only I see, the

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<v Speaker 2>only Yeah, it would have been like the only homegrown

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<v Speaker 2>second basement. Like we talk about the three closers of

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series years, right, you have Brian Wilson, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get Sergio Romo and then really it was

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<v Speaker 2>Casilla that fourteen season. But Bumgarter nails it down in

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<v Speaker 2>Game seven. Same thing for the second basement, right. I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked a lot about them trading in nine for Freddy

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez at the deadline because they knew there wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>anybody available. He's the second baseman in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy that all three second basement played major roles

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<v Speaker 2>two in the World Series runs. He comes up, not

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<v Speaker 2>comes up, Freddy Sanchez in his first three World Series

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<v Speaker 2>at bats, first player ever have three doubles first three

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<v Speaker 2>World Series at bats. Crazy fast forward two years later,

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<v Speaker 2>First it's Ryan Fonton or not Ryan Terrio is the

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<v Speaker 2>second basement. Then they make the trade for Marcus Scudro,

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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't swing and miss for like a month and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, basically makes all the contact in the world NLCSMVP,

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<v Speaker 2>the great moment of him at second base with the

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<v Speaker 2>rain pouring down, And then they move on again, and

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fourteen, at that point you get Joe Panicker

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<v Speaker 2>comes up, Whin's up. I believe at one point winning

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<v Speaker 2>a gold Glove was just the most solid two second

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<v Speaker 2>basement type itter you could have through right, batted left,

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<v Speaker 2>was a great slap guy, but had some pop could

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<v Speaker 2>leave the ballpark. What I'll remember him for, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think whatever Giants fan should remember him for, is Game

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<v Speaker 2>seven in Kansas City, the flip double play, who I

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<v Speaker 2>believe Jeremy Affelt was on the mound for that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think a felt came in and like the second the

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<v Speaker 2>third inning might have been like the second inning for

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Hudson, who started.

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<v Speaker 3>And funny thing is they knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Huddy wouldn't get give him a lot, they knew he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going deep into this one, but a crucial bubble play,

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<v Speaker 2>the first ever reviewed play in a World Series game,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get him by a nail. But the diving

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<v Speaker 2>flip to Brandon Crawford, who gets up and rifles it

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<v Speaker 2>to Brandon Belt at first. That's what I'll remember Joe

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<v Speaker 2>panic for. Not a short not a long career, but

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<v Speaker 2>a really really good giant and a fun giant.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude made an All Star team at one point, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So he came at the tail end of that era,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it makes it a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit harder to uh to outside to have the major

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<v Speaker 2>moments in the major spots, because they've had what two

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<v Speaker 2>playoff births since that World Series title in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's all I'll remember is that incredible double play

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy who was homegrown, and that they needed

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<v Speaker 2>three second basemen and three different closers to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Three World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>It speaks to the stability of that core and with

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<v Speaker 2>that front office and that coaching staff and what those

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<v Speaker 2>players were able to do. And Joe Panic was just

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<v Speaker 2>another incredible fit for it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm huge that first season twenty fourteen, but I

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<v Speaker 4>remember twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>He was out for all of that season.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of that season, i should say, and he did

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<v Speaker 4>weekly hits on Haberman and Middlcoff and I would talk

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<v Speaker 4>to him every week, and it's hard to have a

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<v Speaker 4>player on that's injured. So after a while I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I know you're kind of like getting frustrated

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<v Speaker 4>that you're not talking about, you know, being with the team.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you want to talk about? He goes, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>tell the guys, I'll like review movies. I'm just sitting

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<v Speaker 4>on the couch watch a movie. So ask me what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm watching. I'm like, all right, what kind of movies

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<v Speaker 4>was watch? So Haman and guy guy in John are like, so,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you watching Lately Joe and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm watching Men in Black three.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like is it good? No? Not really, And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, why would you t that up if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's good?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's not really. Can you break it down force?

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<v Speaker 2>I could, I could want I won't, Yeah, I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was that terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just gave you all the reasons I remember him.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, yeah, I remember he watched Men in

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<v Speaker 2>Black You.

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<v Speaker 4>Know the connection I had with him where he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>teaming up for like talking about the terrible movies I watch.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, Men in Black three, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of like when I brought up F one

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<v Speaker 4>last year and I was like, yeah, Cars, Room Room,

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<v Speaker 4>he's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>You put it in the rundown and said Derek's review

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<v Speaker 2>of F one and then said, yeah, there's some good shots.

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<v Speaker 4>Some good shots. Uh, you know, brat pick goes fast.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, you know, they're making they're remaking, not remaking.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a sequel, The Days of Thunder, which is

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<v Speaker 4>basically F one.

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<v Speaker 2>F one Days of Thunder, and they're remaking it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably because of the success of F one. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about making a sequel to F one.

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<v Speaker 3>They probably will. I think they will.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched F one recently, one of those movies where

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, good movies, surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>It got an oscar. Not Yeah, it didn't need that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't need ten. How many times we gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do this? No, five's fine, we don't need ten. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for when we do our dirty work, hits filthy

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<v Speaker 2>with the filth or whatever a little bit later, and

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<v Speaker 2>they sit down and ask us questions again, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>here at five point fifty tonight, Derek set up a microwall.

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<v Speaker 2>Shane set it up. But Derek's like, yeah, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the filth today.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are here, you can sit down and ask

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<v Speaker 2>us one question? Is it one question each or just

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<v Speaker 2>one question only one total for both of us?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of like I guess we'll genies give

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<v Speaker 4>you three wishes, So for us, it's just one question

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<v Speaker 4>like a genie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess, no, one question and one question kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like a genie. I'm like, we're not granting with this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not granted any wishes here, although I might if

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<v Speaker 4>you give me a present of something.

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<v Speaker 2>You bring a sick kid, We'll grant your wish. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the only way it's getting done, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of questions they'll ask, well, what would you project?

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<v Speaker 3>What would you think? They probably asks a lot about

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<v Speaker 3>me and my weird nature.

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<v Speaker 2>You're weird nature? Yeah, I think I don't think you're weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are fascinated.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that, but it's their nice way of saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I'm being nice or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being being mean and thinking you're weird?

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm like a circus attraction for the show. Check

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<v Speaker 4>out the free Yeah dance for me, Yeah, dance dance

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<v Speaker 4>jes to it's my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye bring me a pig eight away came here as

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<v Speaker 2>a number to call the finus swine in the lad

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<v Speaker 2>e Cambire on the board and text, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just killing time for her. He's still not there. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>we get it. It is unbelievable. Wow, all right, we

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<v Speaker 3>still got chips, chips, chips. You have you have another?

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<v Speaker 3>You have another? Note?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you make another infro or if you're hanging around longer,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna need more content.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Cam, yours is the number to call and the

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<v Speaker 2>number to text if you want to get involved in

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<v Speaker 2>any of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>You put this one down.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what this means. Big deal or

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<v Speaker 2>no deal? NBA stories, just something.

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<v Speaker 3>To talk about before Marcus comes on? Is it big

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<v Speaker 3>deal or no deal? We'll do it next.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA stories not a grab bag though, I really so,

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<v Speaker 2>how about is this You're gonna throw them at me?

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<v Speaker 3>And I decided this is a big dealers got.

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<v Speaker 4>Down together like it's we'll talk about Kevin Durant and

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<v Speaker 4>Pablo Torri's little report last night and are they big deals?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's a team we'll decide next.

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<v Speaker 2>A Dirty Work on a Friday from fifty eighth Social

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Thompson joins us at three point fifty before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to that, though, you put this segment in here

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<v Speaker 2>because there's just been a guest smattering of NBA news

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<v Speaker 2>smattering sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like off courts. No, it's all off court stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing significant when it comes to playreck with in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Is anything ever about on quarters?

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<v Speaker 2>And always just pro wrestling, it's always it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of and then they go play battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron signing was of a big deal, isn't that off court?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of and then he's gonna play. It's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be on court eventually, Yeah, but it's right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just by the way. So you haven't watched New

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<v Speaker 3>Hard Knocks yet, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, dude, I again, I don't like the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>hard knocks. Now what the concept we were gonna like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need a Super Bowl champion hard knocks. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need a Buffalo pills hard knocks. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see a guy who's fighting for his job. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see quarterbacks who are fighting for their careers. He

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the point. What's the hard knocks? Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>won it all, you might finish second.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when they started initially years ago with the

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<v Speaker 4>Ravens being on hard knocks, when they won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, but that team that's hard knocks. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think that the Seahawks of hard knocks was

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<v Speaker 4>I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Does everybody accused of murder ahead of the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll say this, like it's interesting to see Mike

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald at a new light, like more goofy and the

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<v Speaker 4>way he is as a coach, Like I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna be more of a hard ass, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>like he's won thirty nine years old, there's at one

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<v Speaker 4>point where there's a there's a big fight on the field,

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<v Speaker 4>and what was his name the one Pat Derek call.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a good super Bowl and he gets into

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<v Speaker 4>a fight with an offensive lineman. He grabs him by

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<v Speaker 4>the throat and pulls him down, and then Mike McDonald's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a little too much there, and then the defense yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then uh, well no, he's he he's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like just like, I mean, I like guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get into fights, but I don't appreciate that. And the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive cord it comes by and he goes, well, did

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<v Speaker 4>you hear what the offensive lineman said to him?

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<v Speaker 3>What he said? Oh, you changed that, you got a contract.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, I don't like that. That's not fair.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta call it another brother because of their money

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<v Speaker 4>like that. So he goes up to me goes, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I'm all for like, you know, getting a

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<v Speaker 4>little feisty and everything, but did you have to like

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<v Speaker 4>talking about his money?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, like that's your brother, man, come on, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't do that. And then he's like, all right, fairt

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<v Speaker 3>coach goes okay, all right, no, hug Dad will all

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<v Speaker 3>go It's not a bad episode.

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<v Speaker 4>But then they go to Sam Darnald to Cooper Cup like,

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<v Speaker 4>whoa you see this Lebron James just signed the seventy

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<v Speaker 4>six ers, and like they're like they were, like looking

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<v Speaker 4>at all the comments, He's like, can you believe that

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<v Speaker 4>people give him crap going to a good team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did the same thing. What's the big deal? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Neither of you are Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>No, neither of you are at the peak of your

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<v Speaker 2>private not that he's in the peak of his powers,

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<v Speaker 2>but his impact. I think that felt a little different

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<v Speaker 2>than Cooper Cups even last year. Yeah, I definite missed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, No he was there. Did he miss a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of games last year?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he miss a check of two years ago? Then

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<v Speaker 3>with the Rams, I don't know, man, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they were just winning ball games hand over fist

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly like he was playing a lot opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a solid episode, and I still think the Rams

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<v Speaker 4>could be pretty good. Seahawks will be good this year too.

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<v Speaker 4>Niners will be good too. I just I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>in the same vein as those two teams.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get into these these stories, these stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Deal or no deal, Big deal or no deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So the Kevin Durant Twitter reaction with Klay Thompson

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<v Speaker 4>and Draymond Green. I'm gonna say, yeah, a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a deal here because when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 4>Warriors days with Kevin Durant, I always wondered, as you

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<v Speaker 4>look at those times fondly, and to me, this one

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<v Speaker 4>interaction was very weird, like I remember, yeah, you kN

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<v Speaker 4>Katy and Draymond getting into it like Katie's closest friend.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think he was tighted with Zaza too,

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<v Speaker 4>but really it was Steph Curry and Katie or not

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<v Speaker 4>actually knows Clay and Zaza.

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<v Speaker 3>I never mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember Clay and Katy being particularly close. But

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<v Speaker 4>this one interaction online was so weird where it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a normal like Poleacher Report thing where it's like compair

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<v Speaker 4>of these dude teams. You got the upcoming seventy six

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<v Speaker 4>ers and the Warriors of twenty seventeen, so who's better.

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<v Speaker 4>And Kevin Durant, probably thinking he's on his his burner account,

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<v Speaker 4>responds saying, oh, you gotta say the seventy six ers.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy's an MVP. That guy's an MVP. Klay Thompson

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't been an MVP of nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>O, brother, you got it? What you good? You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>use my full government the yeah, And that's.

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<v Speaker 4>A great response by Clay Thompson, and then Draymond responds

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<v Speaker 4>being like, well, I thought Katie must have thought that

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<v Speaker 4>he was on his burner account.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all like fight each other and they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do a reunion anyway because all them are still playing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna ask Marcus, like, do you think Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 4>looks at his time with the Warriors fondly because he's

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<v Speaker 4>always where he's kind of downplays it or doesn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to come back, which I totally understand. But these guys

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<v Speaker 4>took pride in that team. Steph, Claye, Raymond, all those

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<v Speaker 4>guys do. And I don't think Kevin Durant does.

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<v Speaker 2>No Again, I think I think he remembers that era differently,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think because his career hasn't reached anything close

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<v Speaker 2>to the level it reached when he was with the Warriors, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he feels different about it. I do wonder like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you gave you know, I'm big on giving guys truth serum,

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<v Speaker 2>if we gave Kevin durant truth serum and said, if

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<v Speaker 2>you could go back and do it all over, would

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<v Speaker 2>you have gone to Golden State.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not so sure he would have.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he also would have said, if I had

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<v Speaker 4>to do it all over again, would I've stayed and

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<v Speaker 4>just had another deal with them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's two different, two different things, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you could do it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Over again and the get go, Because again, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>the point in which it changed his image.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, remember what I said yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a firm believer that had he stayed, not only

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<v Speaker 2>do they compete for more titles, his image changes across

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<v Speaker 2>the league. Because then it's not just like you went

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<v Speaker 2>title hunting to join it team to beat you. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like I joined a team I found, came that

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<v Speaker 2>team found happiness. That's where I wanted to be. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my home. I'm a legend in Golden State. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my legacy, much like Lebron's in Cleveland or Kobe's

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<v Speaker 2>in LA Even though it's a different situation, people would

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<v Speaker 2>have felt differently about it if he had stayed with

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors and played eight nine years there, seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>years there, if they committed right rather than what was

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<v Speaker 2>he there for three three years?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean. So every year was a one

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<v Speaker 3>year deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he had locked in and stayed and was

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<v Speaker 2>like I like it here, I'm happy here, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play. This is the place I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the food here, I can still do on

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<v Speaker 2>my trap.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Had he done that, I think he's viewed differently because

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<v Speaker 2>not only would they have continued to win, but to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, it would have looked like true happiness, like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I found where I wanted to be, versus like Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>where we knew he always was like I did my

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<v Speaker 2>job here, I'm coming back to do it in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 3>I did my job there. I want to go be

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<v Speaker 3>in La Laker. That's what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>We all knew that was the case. I think Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>really did want to end his career there. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>make the trade for Luca and everything changes yep, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, Okay, this is not they don't want me

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<v Speaker 2>to be here, and that's or for the duration of

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<v Speaker 2>my career.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just have different is going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So like back to the Kevin Durant thing, like if

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<v Speaker 2>he had done it again and could stay, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think he's gotten more. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>he's more outwardly bitter about the era then he has been,

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<v Speaker 2>at least publicly previously.

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<v Speaker 4>Or maybe he's just a basketball head that answered the

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<v Speaker 4>question honestly and he just thinks about it like Uncle Drew. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like like like Raymond said, Uncle Drew. But at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time, like does he need to say that about

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<v Speaker 4>Clay like it never been an MVP and nothing like

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs, Like, yo, bro, what did I do on man?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I ran you out? Come on? He's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't yelling at you on the dock in LA. That

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<v Speaker 3>was this whole public thing. But make of the stall.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're throwing that at me Jesus Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So to summon all up, not a big deal to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes or no? Yes and no?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, what's is it a big deal? Because it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't affect anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>What I would say is it doesn't affect anything, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of confirm something that I already felt to be true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean, but it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>solidified it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, as far as the Kawhi, Leonard thinks So Kawhi

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<v Speaker 4>Leonard scandal, and we all know what went on with Aspiration.

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<v Speaker 4>Pablatory last night revealed that Kawhi was paid by Doctronix,

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<v Speaker 4>a scoreboard company, to endorse their product, but much like Aspiration,

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<v Speaker 4>Kawai never actually did an advertisement for them, so he

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<v Speaker 4>just took the money. It was a way to circumvent

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<v Speaker 4>the salary cap the same way that see Palmer did

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<v Speaker 4>with Aspiration and got another company in this.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a deal. It is. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>yes and no for me, okay. I give a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of credit to Pablo Torri.

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<v Speaker 4>He's one of the few people out there still doing journalism,

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<v Speaker 4>so props to him for doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>But me, as a sports fan, you know, take it

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<v Speaker 3>from dumb and dummer, I don't care. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, Like I think that people do shady crap

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<v Speaker 4>all the time behind the scenes, and I know it's

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<v Speaker 4>very public and Kawhi Leonard's a big time player, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you're asking me as a sports fan, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>This looks bad, but I just want to see him

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<v Speaker 4>play for the Raptors. At this point, I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I really care about where he plays to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you. You you're hold on your reasoning for not caring,

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<v Speaker 2>is people these shady things all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I don't think that's a good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we should just let things happen because it's

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<v Speaker 2>happening everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>You got caught, partner, this is not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell me up and down it happens everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one is public, and this one is making

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<v Speaker 2>news and is making noise. You can't say, ah, well, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure other guys were gambling, like Pete Rose. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it happens, so it's just whatever. Let him know, dude. No,

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<v Speaker 2>this circumvents the salary cap. What's the purpose of the

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<v Speaker 2>cap if we're just going to be allowing teams to

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<v Speaker 2>circumvent it. I am not opposing you, I'm not. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying is shady stuff. I'm saying I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you on the idea that there's a ton more

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<v Speaker 2>things happening behind the scenes than any of us are

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. I'm also against the idea that, well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>happening everywhere, so then we stop it. So you put

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<v Speaker 2>a stop to it here and you clamp down on

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<v Speaker 2>it elsewhere. It's against the rules. What's the point of

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<v Speaker 2>blurring the lines on the rules. Why would we blur

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<v Speaker 2>the lines on the parameters. We're gonna go, ah close

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<v Speaker 2>enough to a first down? Where does it end, Derek,

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<v Speaker 2>where does it end? Well, that's what we want. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about playing a game as opposed I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what allows the player to play for this team

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<v Speaker 2>in that game. We're talking about rules that allow that

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<v Speaker 2>player to play for this team within the game. That

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<v Speaker 2>the rules are very strict within that game. The rules

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<v Speaker 2>are strict outside of the game too, But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>circumvent the rules and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just allow it that. I mean, like, I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not up at arms about it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say I don't care because everybody's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that's more reason to clamp down on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I get what you're saying. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>we say all the time, like do what you can

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<v Speaker 4>to get that player right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not within I don't mean like in whatever, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I upset at the Clippers for doing it? Not?

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<v Speaker 2>Not particularly like I'm not upset about that. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, but it is against the rules, and you

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<v Speaker 2>got caught doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>Against the Yeah, okay, so then where are we stopping?

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<v Speaker 3>How many rules get me broke into what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna compare this to Pete Rose games. It's different, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get it. I made an apples and orange comparison.

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<v Speaker 3>That was intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the nth degree of it. What I'm asking you, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is where does it stop? Then? When do we allow

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<v Speaker 2>it to continue? So you can say so you're gonna say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>other players are doing it, okay, So then what's next?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we give guys real estate? Can we give guys property?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we like in soccer in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Mllll all the time at college football for years? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make it right? Or are we just gonna say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened, so just keep going. Why do we allow

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<v Speaker 2>just because we think and we know what's happening on

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<v Speaker 2>a major scale, that's not reason to say, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>keep the fake rules in place.

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<v Speaker 4>And so are you up in arms? When the Astros

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<v Speaker 4>got Poppular's cheating scandal.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't particularly about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I was more like, wow, it's pretty clear this is

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<v Speaker 2>a wide ranging thing, and I was That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>was understanding the players themselves were not clamped down upon

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<v Speaker 2>the same reason. I wasn't outraged by steroids because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't we know it's so widespread, we don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know where to stop it, which means we have to

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<v Speaker 2>go to one source and try to change the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a fan of, well, if everybody's doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>keep going. No, I'm a fan of we know it's

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<v Speaker 2>so widespread that this is bad. We've got to put

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<v Speaker 2>a stop to it to make sure the game is

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<v Speaker 2>what we as fans believe we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is apples and oranges to that, because again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is about finances and about how far can a team go,

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<v Speaker 2>And this to me is like big slimy corporation stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, that affects every corporations owned basketball teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Individuals do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Individuals own basketball teams, that's true, and they've used their

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<v Speaker 2>connections to circumvent rules. So to say this is I did.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna say it doesn't you don't care and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't affect even fine, But I'm like, but it does

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<v Speaker 2>because other teams may or might not be doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the worriers doing it, Like you might not want

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<v Speaker 2>to be surprised, might not be mad if your own

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>teams doing it. But I think that this is a story,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's important that this gets stopped. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I'm at. But to say, like, if everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, then do who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Change? Then change the rules to say we can do

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<v Speaker 3>that because the league doesn't want that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean to be known so nonchalant about it,

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<v Speaker 4>Like what my reaction is? I get it, like, I

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<v Speaker 4>respect the fact that Pablo Torri is reporting on this

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<v Speaker 4>and it is a story. But for me personally, I

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<v Speaker 4>read the details, I'm like, all right, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>surprised by.

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<v Speaker 2>This, right, But being not surprised it's different than thinking

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<v Speaker 2>this is not allowed and it should be stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>It probably should be stopping. Yeah, but like you mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Me as a sports fan, I'm like, I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>don't want this investigation just ends. I can say, kawhi

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<v Speaker 4>wan to play for the Raptors at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>How many Raptors games you're watching? I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>many Clippers games did you watch? That affects you less?

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to see him back in the

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<v Speaker 2>Champion remember that one year he played there once? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who can't be his old tea?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see?

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<v Speaker 5>Why are you ding?

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<v Speaker 3>I want? I want to see Kawhi let it go?

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<v Speaker 3>He always got a few years left in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you dying to see him play for the

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<v Speaker 3>rap die? And I just want to see like the

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<v Speaker 3>trade happen? You want to see that happen? Save? I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see Max Cross. We played for the race

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<v Speaker 3>over under five and a half Raptors games you watched

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<v Speaker 3>this season?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably under Yeah, you don't want you don't even care,

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<v Speaker 4>You don't care about any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're we're caring about you know what you cared about?

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<v Speaker 3>And sat? Did I filling.

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<v Speaker 2>A three thirty second athletic joints us each and every week?

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best sports rider in the Does he care?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we wait?

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<v Speaker 2>After the segment, We'll do it next with Marcus on

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<v Speaker 2>The Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d

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<v Speaker 1>Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight's Giants game. On The Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon. What a fun

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<v Speaker 2>week it's been from the package from the Path. You're

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<v Speaker 2>at fifty eight Social getting ready for the Giants and

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<v Speaker 2>the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>The sun's trying to peek out. Yeah, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>poke out a bit. Hello, I'm here, Hey, Hey, what up?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on by the fiftieth Socials getting ready open in

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit here and we'll be sitting down

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<v Speaker 2>with some members of the filth about an hour, nearly

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<v Speaker 2>two hours, about hour forty five, about five forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are around, if anybody's here, got hope, fuck

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine we'll do the we'll do the getting filthy

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<v Speaker 2>with dirty work and we'll I guess, Derek, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to allow members of the filth to sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>ask us one question, one question only our follow ups alot,

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<v Speaker 2>like no follow ups or clarifications or like.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's only tacky, willn't ask questions and maybe we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now, if Pat Age is here, he's gonna want

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<v Speaker 2>to say yeah, he's gonna have rock, he'll have a question.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got there's three questions there.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's if these people actually show up that claim

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<v Speaker 2>they're showing up, I think those guys will show up

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are too, so, I mean, and who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be it could be a trivia question that

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<v Speaker 2>might be fun. Okay, somebody dropped a trivia question. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think, by the way, about that note that

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped on you, Well, we saw it yesterday. You

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<v Speaker 2>and I were sitting in the studio, yeah, doing the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was starting a break and I pointed up

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<v Speaker 2>at that note on on TV about Aaron Donald if

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<v Speaker 2>he joins the La Rams no team in NFL history

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<v Speaker 2>as ever, it's not a surprise to me really because

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<v Speaker 2>there's very few guys who have won multiple Defensive Player

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<v Speaker 2>of ther awards anyway, and to end up on the

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>same team. I mean, how many in the Salary cap

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Era have won multiple Probably just a handful JJ.

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Russ Smith, JJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Lawrence Sally cap Era.

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 2>The Salary cap Era, there's no I mean, it's very rare,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>which is why this is gonna be monstrous because the

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>notice note team has ever started two players with multiple

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 2>TPO wise in their career.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so if he comes over and it sounds like

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 4>he's going to Like last night, my Florio on the

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 4>broadcast was saying some matter.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Of days where oh yeah, I'm Aaron Donald showing up.

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that's it. I'm by the rest of teller.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't even say this at the top Marcus Thompson.

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 2>We moved him to four four thirty. Marcus Thompson will

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 2>join us.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I mean, I'm not gonna act like it's

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 4>the same Aaron Donald. Like, it would be unfair for

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 4>me to be like, well, it's not the same Deebo Samuel,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 4>it's not the same Aaron Donald. It's two years removed

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 4>from playing and we'll talk about it more when it

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 4>becomes official. But Aaron Donald still is Aaron Donald. Like,

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have to be one hundred percent of Aaron Donald.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Like if it's him with Miles Garrett and he's doing

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 4>the same thing he did with Von Miller.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 3>He's not that he doesn't have to be the guy.

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what we've talked about with literally with Lebron, Right,

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't that what Lebron's goal was to find somewhere where

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>there was enough around him where I can still be

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>a focal point of a championship team, Right, But I

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be the guy who makes it all

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>go because Lebron at his prime was scoring thirty a

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 2>game and distributing better than anybody, making guys around it better.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I can still do a lot of that.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I just can't do it for thirty nine minutes tonight.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna happen at the same rate. And the

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 2>same can be said. I think about Aaron Donald, which

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>is why he's even considered. Like, if they don't get

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Miles Garrett, I don't think this is a discussion.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>If they just get Trey McDuffie, I think it's uh yeah,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Trent McDuffie. There you go, yeah, Traylon Burkes, Trent McDuffie.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh was that Titans receiver? Now he's part of the Commander,

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 3>But was he a Titan? Yes? He was. He the

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 3>guy they drafted after they traded away A. J. Browner,

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>they were like, we'll fix this. Yeah. Was that that was?

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>That was? That was? Was that ran Carthon? That was

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>my boy traded him?

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought, yeah, yeah, I don't know if he traded him,

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 4>but my boy ran yeah, your boy ran Uh No,

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 4>it was the guy from the Patriots that was originally

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 4>with Mike Vrabel.

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I when.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but when it comes to Aaron Donald on the Rams,

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, well it'll be something and we'll see when

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>it actually happens.

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Here because the Rams are going back to their facility.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>They were probatic seeing An lmu for a little bit

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>of time, but now they're going back home and sounds

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 4>like that's when Aaron Aaron Donald will reunite with Sean McVay.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the guys to win Defensive Player of the

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Year twice in their career.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, at least twice. JJ White, There's.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Dude, there's not very many in the sarra oh salder

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>cap barra.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 3>Right, go ahead.

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>There's three guys who have won three, and you mentioned

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>one of them, JJ Watti.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>There's everybody who's won at least two.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Lawrence Taylor joined he won three, Aaron Donald and Aaron Donald.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Won three seventeen. And by the way, everybody who's won

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>three went back to back at least once. Ok it's

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>pretty incredible. So Donald went back to back seventeen eighteen,

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>then he won twenty. Watt went back to back fourteen fifteen,

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>but he also won twelve. He won three of four. Yes,

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>he did, and Lawrence Taylor eighty one, eighty two and

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>then eighty six. Okay, there's another guy that has it,

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>won three, he's won two. There's now there's one, two, three, four, five.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I think six more guys who won two.

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, Reggie White, Reggie White, of course, Alan Page,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Alan Page, no, okay. Bruce Smith, Bruce Smith, yes, ninety

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 4>and ninety six, Jack Lambert, Nope, no blunt nope, Jack

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Ham no. Oh man, the earliest, no, I this would

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 4>be the earliest one.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Mean, Joe Green, So he's the earliest of the multiple layers,

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and he went two of three singletary one at eighty

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>five and eighty eight.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Reggie White eighty seven and ninety eight. Ok.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Smith ninety and ninety six, Ray Lewis two thousand,

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and three, Miles Garrett twenty twenty three,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and twenty five. So when we go to like the

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>modern era, they're just arn't I mean, like really in

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the modern game, Ray Lewis, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, JJ Watt.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Are the only four two of one two?

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Would you say that?

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Because like that's that's all post two thousand, right, that

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>would be in the NFL's changed so much since since

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 2>prior to two.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Thousand, so I'd have to say, like, yeah, it's it's.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Unique that you'd end up with like a Donald and

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>a Garrett on the same team, but you wouldn't be

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>looking for the same production from from Aaron Donald. It's

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 2>just it's incredible what they could pose. You asked Ted

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>new Win earlier in the show, and it's kind of

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>made me laugh because Ted is such a great analytical

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>understands the game at a level and a place that

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't watch the game from in terms of his

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>film breakdown in the schematics. But you asked how they'd

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>used Aaron Donald, and you asked them a great question

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>about how he sees him breaking down, Whereas if you

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 2>ask me that, I'm like, how the f you think, bro?

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 3>He's in there to mess dudes up while it gets

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>after the QB. But your question was.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>More about schematic and plugging the box and all that,

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and really the like how good are the We thought

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the Rams were the best team in the division in

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the conference before.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>The projection of Aaron Donald.

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you add him and it's like anything they

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>get is found money.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's all on paper.

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, when you have two future Hall of Famers

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 4>on one side of the ball, that's gonna be insane.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 4>And let alone what they got on the offensive side

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>of the ball right now with Matt Stafford and Davante Adams.

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's gonna be a lot.

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Hall of Fame, you got the Hall of

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Fame Ceremony, tomorrow, Hall of Fame, Wall of Fan Well

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 4>for the Giants, NFL.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famous Tomorrow Race it is, Yeah, we want

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 3>to get into that.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 4>We got your guy, Drew Brees going in. Happy about that, dude,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't stop. I forgot about that.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I forgot until he walked his birth mark ass out

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>on the field last night.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 3>He was going in. So yeah, Drew like that. He's

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>not Captain America, Shane. He didn't save the city of

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>New Orleans, dude, Well he did with his cher. No

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 3>he didn't, dude, No, you know he didn't. So Drew

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Brees is going in anything.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>It was Steve what's his name with the diving at

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>what was the block? Glease, Steve Glees and he shout

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>him out. Yeah that's my guy, Gleason.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 4>I know Gleason over Brees Breeze going in, Lukeickley going in,

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Larry Fitzgerald going in, Adam and Terry in.

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Of course locally Roger Craig going.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll be sweet. Man with Rodger Craig, it's cool

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to see him out there, long overdue. You know, it's

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>not Belichick, no Belichick.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 4>No, which is crazy in itself, but as far as

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 4>the guys are going this year, Like, I I get

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying with Captain America and Drew Brees, but

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 4>the guy did accomplish a lot of I.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you have my back man. Yeah, yeah, the guy

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>accomplished a lot as a QB. That's it, That's all

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I got. Yeah, he was good QB.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean the passing young numbers, unbelievable, his battles with

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 4>the forty nine ers, that unbelievable playoff game in twenty eleven.

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>A man, when Downte was doing the show and them,

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>did you get Drew Brees camp dude, remember his head

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>just like moves one direction.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 3>That was a Ram Brooks. Brooks I was a Niners.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we're like little head is like it's the

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 4>most it looks it's a helmet stays in place, but

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 4>his body could towards the like just like to thrown.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>His body just gets ripped. His head stays one place

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>and then it follows it.

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like the Great Kazoo, where like his his

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 4>head just like stays like it felt like it was

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 4>so big, but like it just moves and his body

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 4>like does it go with them.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've ever asked you this.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you did not grow up a forty nine

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>er fan, but you're a diehard football fan. Yeah, and

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 2>you've seen I mean, you've seen how many times the

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Niners have made the playoffs. You see it often? Yeah, yeah,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.959
<v Speaker 2>you're accustomed to it. Okay, you're used to that happening.

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Sure you watch the playoffs? Yeah, yes, so you've seen

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>all those Niner playoff games. I have, what's your favorite

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>forty nine er game? Just that front win or lose?

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Your favorite game you've.

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Watched that the Niners were in, Uh, like from a

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>from a neutral if you could be a neutral fan.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I think I want to say I was asked this

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 3>on forty nine er day. Was it like?

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Was it because I gotta go for me? Like the

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that Eagles game last year is a day

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a good one.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 3>That's not my favorite.

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>That's not my favorite. It's gotta be for me. Twenty

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>eleven NFC Division One.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I love watching it. Yeah, that's it was.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know they won it, and as a

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Nighter fan, I wouldn't feel the same had they lost it.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's my favorite forty nine Ers game.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and a lot of fun watching that game.

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 4>And I thought the Saints are gonna win that game

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 4>because they were this high flying offense. The defense of

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 4>the forty nine Ers that year were unbelievable. But yeah,

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 4>going into I mean at the time, it was, yeah,

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 4>they played that game it Candlestick.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so dreams run of dreams.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 4>And the Saints come back in that game where twice

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 4>and like the last two minutes, I want to say

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 4>it was Darren Sproles caught the screen route and went

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 4>the rest of them the way.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Then Jimmy Graham to.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Be Graham catched the test on to go back up,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 2>and then you get the Vernon Davis toesch.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 4>I thought the game was over, and then three Alex

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Smith comes back and has a touchdown pass to Vernon

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Davis of course earlier, the touchdown run which my dad

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 4>will always say, like he should just he should not

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 4>have sqular, she should just fell down the one yard

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 4>lines gone to out.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that one I mean too, he Caughtity Coddity

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 4>caught it in ninety eight.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 4>The Giants Niners game where the Niners get back try

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 4>John ket damage Johns.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Get to fourteen.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 2>See, these are like, that's why I mean, it's the

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 2>games of my childhood. These are the ones that are

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that are my fairst So what's your favorite.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Probably the twenty eleven game that the one I was.

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I was in college.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 4>I was in Austin watching my friends and as soon

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 4>as we had some Saints fans that were hanging on

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 4>with us, and they were like, oh, that's over, Jimmy

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 4>Graham with a touchdowns over, And I was like, I

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 4>think so too.

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 3>This is this is all by way of saying, who's

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>the losing quarterback of that game? Drew Brees. That's what

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 3>I thought.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, yeah, we gotta get some stuff done.

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more Hall of Fame a little bit later, by.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 4>The way, real quick, Yeah, it sounds like Matt Shamman

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 4>has done for the season. He's gonna a specialist in Philadelphia,

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 4>and it sounds.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh my bad. Yeah, yeah, I was, I was gonna

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 3>do I was gonna do it. Oh my bad.

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, No, you're good. No, since you, why don't you

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 2>finish that? And you get to read that though, that's

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>how that works?

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Since you?

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Since you want to you want to give all the info? Now,

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 3>oh my bad?

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 4>You get to read the word The dugout Health Reports

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 4>sponsored by Kyser Permanente a better idea.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 3>For health care?

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, uh, except one to your health health there. I'll

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 4>pull up the tweet here real quick.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I got out, Well you can, you can pull up

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>the tweet. But I do have the report from the Giants.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as they gave out just a little bit of

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>goes you said, Matt Chapman is going to have season

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>ending uh abdominal surgeries A right?

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Is that where it's going? So you can get the

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>PAVs tweet up.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 4>But I do have And he's flying out to Philadelphia

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 4>to see a specialist on Sunday and expects to have

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 4>season ending surgery on Tuesday.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>He has a hernia and been playing through it it

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 3>most of the season.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I got I got more information than you do.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna see he's gonna see doctor William Myers in Philadelphia.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 3>William Meyers.

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bill Myers. Uh, that's the science guy. Yeah, Bill Myye,

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the science guy. He's gonna go see him in Philadelphia,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>as you said, for phill evaluation, possible surgery. Uh, next week,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 2>but he's gonna miss the remainder of the year. How

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>about New Giant who they were hoping or they are

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>hoping to get back. We got that from Boston for

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Eric Miller. Marcelo Meyer. Yeah, bone stress reaction in the

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 2>left ulna. That's a that's up here, okay, Olla, that's

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 2>up in your arm. Anyway, he's expected Dirks and they

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>say August or September. He's gonna report to San Francisco

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>on August fifth. I saw him post yesterday video. He's

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 2>already here. Took a little photo of the Golden Gate Bridge.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm here in San Francisco. So Marcelo Meyer

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to join the team. Matt Gage that left

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>elbow strain and he's gonna return. They say sometime in

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 2>the second half. Started throwing off flat ground and he's

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>throwing progression is about at sixty feet, so those are

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the closest guys to return seeming way as it stands

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's your dugout reports sponsored by Kaiser Permanente.

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Well done, brother, well done. You know what else, it's

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>time for people don't know how to spend their weekend.

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 2>They don't have computers, they don't have phones, they don't

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 2>have newspapers because nobody really does anymore. But that's why

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.959
<v Speaker 2>we provide a service to you. And that service every

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 2>week tells you how you're gonna spend your weekend. It's

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>all part of the can b are unsponsored Dirty Work

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0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>There it is there, it is. I was waiting for

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 3>that to start.

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, Kyle Hord now on the ones and twos, as

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.479
<v Speaker 2>we frankensteined our boardop together today we had a little

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>bit of chips McCarthy we'll take We're like buffeting. We're like,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>we'll take some McCarthy, we'll take a little bit of horror,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and we'll also tell you how to spend your weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, today's Friday, Derek, I do Friday starts the weekend.

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Today's Friday, August seventh through Sunday, August ninth. That's

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>all weekend long. The Giants are facing off against the

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Detroit Tigers. Where's that happening, Darren? Right here, right here

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>at an Oracle Park as we see it outside of

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight socialll come on by and hang out.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Saturday.

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.919
<v Speaker 2>That's tomorrow, August the eighth, The Giants Wall of Fame

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 2>ceremony celebrating Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford, Joe, Panic, Buster Posey

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and Pablos Animal.

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Where's the music? Yeah, Pod, I'm reading that again.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Saturday, August eight, Giants Wall of Fame Ceremony celebrating Brandon Belt,

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Crawford, Joe Pannic, Buster Posey, and Pablo Sandival. The

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>whole bit is that the Dumb song plays undernew the.

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Whole the whole thing.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 2>It's the how many I mean, one of Earth's greatest

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 2>musical compositions. Perhaps it's very fine, I would say so. Friday,

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 2>August seventh, that's also today, Derek. I don't know if

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you know that the Golden State Valkyrie's face off against

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Wings.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Though that's in Dallas. That's not here.

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's out in Dallas, all right, Big d Dallas, Friday,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 2>August seventh. I love he gives me the date every day,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 2>every time he does it. Need to Sunday August ninth,

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>you know it as outside Lands. The festival's going on

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>right now in Golden Gate Park. Young Tony will be there,

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>so you should go Tonight the headliner Charlie XCX, Tomorrow

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the Strokes, and then on Sunday Rufus Desoul headline.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 3>How about that, Charlie, She's so fancy.

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>And then Sunday August ninth, meet Derek Papa at the

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco speed Dating and Happy Hour in Trendy Hayes

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Valley for a thirty and forty year old speed dating

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>session at the Hotel Byron.

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, that's my life now that criteria. For a second,

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait a minute.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, all Ada is welcome, by the way to

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>meet Derek at the speed dating session. And that and

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 2>that is your unsponsored canv Our Dirty Work Bay Area

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>weekend sports calendars sponsored by Surfside. We will take a

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>quick break, very quick actually, it's probably a few minutes long.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I was just saying that as I stalled, so I

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 2>can figure out what we were doing next. Marcus Thoms

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.439
<v Speaker 2>is going to join us now as at four thirty.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Roger Craig.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk more Roger Craig when we come out back.

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>He's going into the Hall of Fame and well deserved.

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Eightyway Camby are four and five eight eight five sixty sevens.

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>If you got thoughts on Roger Craig, No, not that one,

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the football one. Oh, we'll do it next only here

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>on The Sports Leader.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park. This is

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>dirty work with Copes and d Pop on The Sports Leader.

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 3>At the Rams.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>In week seven, Craig played the game of his life.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey for the end, put down forty nine er.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>He is the best back in the league right now.

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>He rushed for one hundred and ninety yards, scored three touchdowns,

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>tottdown and ripped off one of the greatest runs in

0:40:58.360 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>NFL history.

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:01.919
<v Speaker 5>But the drop the middle of the Gregg Andy Bright

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 5>who loads and runs loose. He got heart from the

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 5>thirty to the twenty nine. He's out of the twenty

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Greig Cloth again. Up an tank, you're the run.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>By Run You're in prime nice pretty cool, Oh, pretty

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>good stuff.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 3>There, Joe Starkey, Americas Films. It was an America's game,

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 3>America's game.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 4>The nineteen eighty eight forty nine Ers, which a lot

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 4>of fans would say was the worst Super Bowl team

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 4>because they went ten and six, but still memorable.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it's so funny.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>We think about that same way as like the twenty

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty one NFC Championship. I don't think about that as

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>a bad team and help, but they were three and five,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 2>finished ten and six, and they lost that then NFC

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 2>title game to the to the l A Rams. Dirty work.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 2>On a Friday, We're live from fifty eight Social. We

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>got the Giants Wall of Fame ceremony tomorrow. Five World

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Series champion Giants going on the Wall of Fame, Buster Posey,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Bell, Brandon Crawford, Joe Panic, Pablo Sandoval. How many

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of those guys have Buster's got all three, Pablo's got

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>all three, Crawford has two, Belt has two, and Panic

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>has won.

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 3>There you go, so pretty cool that all three.

0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Of those guys are going into the the Wall of

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Fame at all, all stars at some point for the

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Giants all spend at least five years here, multiple world titles.

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna find a better collection except for the

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famers, the five Hall of Fame giants from

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>the San Francisco era with better accolades. But even those

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>guys done total the world titles that these guys have,

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>those guys have the career numbers. But also it is

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame Canton ceremony tomorrow after the Hall

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>of Fame game last night, Cardinals and the Panthers, and

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Roger Craig is going in. And I don't think any

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Nyer fan, not that there's going to be ever to

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>be a dispute from a fan base about a guy

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>from their team going in. I don't think there's a

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Niner fan that watched Roger Craig play that wasn't upset

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't in the Hall of Fame, that did

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>not have the take like Giants fans. San Francisco Giants

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>fans are like, yeah, it doesn't mean anything until Bonds

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>is in.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Craig's not at that level.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>But we're like, there's no like, he's a guy that

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you bang the drum for at least the guy that

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you the pound the dirt four and say, hey, we

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 2>need this guy in the Hall of Fame, and he

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 2>deserves to be there. And I want to get into

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 2>some other future ones potentially, because there's probably like four

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>or five other guys who are not playing. Because George Kittle,

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I think is a Hall of Famer. Yes, Mike Evans

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>will be. It doesn't matter what team, but he's obviously

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a buccaneer. He's Christian McCaffrey's a Hall of Famer. I

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>would say Katt Williams is a Hall of Famer, you know.

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so there's a series of guys that will

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 2>go in that are active that will associate with forty

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>nine ers football.

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 3>McCaffrey probably here over the Panthers, right because.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I would say so of his years and success, but

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it really it'll be a split career mostly by the

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>time he's done, but it'll be a little bit more here.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I think. Bottom line is Roger Craig was probably the

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 2>top of the list after Bryant Young got in for

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the long standing guys who had not been in the

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame yet, and he was out for longer

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>than Brian, You was right, young played more recently.

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean you were talking about pounding the table.

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean Matt Mayo has been pounding the table for

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 4>quite some time. When it comes to Roger Craig, he

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 4>was eligible in nineteen ninety eight, and we talk about

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 4>receiving running backs, He's the guy that broke the mold.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Like Christian McCaffrey is able to do this because Roger

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Craig did it at a time where running backs didn't

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 4>catch passes at this volume. Right, it's insane, Like go

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 4>to his nineteen eighty five season. Give it to me,

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 4>give me some of those He rushes for one one

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 4>thousand and fifty yards nine touchdowns, but then he catches

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 4>ninety two balls for one thousand, sixteen for six touchdowns.

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>He's the first running back ever to have a thousand thousands.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Unbelieva and he did it in won a sixteen game season. Yes, yeah,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 2>it's unbelievable.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean he did that nineteen eighty eight. We

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 3>came with the highlight in and.

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm by the way, I'm I'm a big believer, Like

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in on putting guys in for one big

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 2>season or one accolade like that. I don't think that

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>one thing won achievement in a season, doesn't know, dude.

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 2>But because of as we get further away from it,

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>even in a season where we're playing seventeen games, the

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>further we get, we see how rare that is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Prior to that, like Roger Craig was scoring three touchdowns

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<v Speaker 4>in the Super Bowl against the Dolphins. So no, it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't just a one off season like nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>We came with the highlight an amazing game against the Rams.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the more his memorable run, I guess is

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<v Speaker 4>in that game where so many guys are trying to

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 4>tackle him his high knees, and Bill Walsh always talked

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 4>about he looked like a caffish in the backfield because

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 4>his eyes would get so big. I mean, yeah, Roger Craig,

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 4>you made the argument that maybe he's the best running

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 4>back at fort nine or history, Like, yes, Frank Gore

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 4>has the stats and the longevity.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Mcaffick's in the conversation as well, Ricky Waters.

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<v Speaker 4>So they think about all the receiving running backs they had,

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Like Bill Walsh wanted to have this West Coast style

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 4>of offense where I mean, we see it today so

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 4>many running backs are catching passes at the backfield.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Just look look at this week.

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<v Speaker 4>You had Bjeon Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, and Jamier Gibbs all

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<v Speaker 4>get contract extensions.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 3>And really the guys that are gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Be you know, as far as like the best running

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 4>backs of football, it's b Jeon Robinson and Jamior Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 4>And what sets them apart from other running backs because

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 4>they can catch the ball out of the backfield. In

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 4>my opinion, more so, Jamier Gibbs, like b Jehan Robinson,

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 4>set the le or led the league in yards from scrimmage.

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 4>But really it's Jamiir Gibbs. He's so explosive, and really

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 4>you need to be that type of athlete these days.

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 4>You need to be a running back that impacts the

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 4>passing game. So at this point, Christian McCaffrey has already

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 4>eclipsed most of Roger Craig's numbers. But Roger Craig was

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 4>the guy that set the standard. There is no Marshall

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 4>fault with our Roger Craig. So I'm baffled it took

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 4>this long, and he had great performances in multiple Super Bowls.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 3>So I'm very happy that Roger Craig is getting in

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<v Speaker 3>the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the question I have then is, because you

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Ricky Waters, how many other former forty nine ers

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>are we are we waiting to go in? Well, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Frank or Frank Gore is the top of the list

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and he's probably gonna get in fairly soon, fairly soon.

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But this but we've talked about the waiting and how

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they're only but it's a very weird system.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.399
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a funnel system, right where it gets voted

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 2>down to a certain number of players, and it keeps

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>getting weeded down, and then they only put in an

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>x number each year, five guys or something, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>By position too, like when it was announced that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So, like Niner fans, their reaction to the Hall

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.399
<v Speaker 4>of Fame ceremony this year is like, Frank Gore didn't

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 4>get in?

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 3>What the hell?

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, Roderic Craig got in? Oh okay, all right, Craig,

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 4>I'll take that. And you know what, even Frank Core

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 4>would say, it's time for Roger Craig to get in.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 4>But I told you and a lot of people like,

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna take some time for Frank Or to get

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 4>in there, and even next year Adrian Peterson it's his

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 4>first year of eligibility. You don't think Adrian Pearston's getting

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 4>in over Frank Or.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 3>I think so too. I think so he's gonna wait

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 3>some time there as far as other forty get in. Yeah,

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Adrian Peterson absolutely, he won an MVP, didn't he? Yes, yeah,

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 3>he was a better player. Come on, No, I'm not

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 3>disputing that. I'm not disputing that.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 2>You're talking No, I'm talking like, longevity is a thing, Okay,

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Like in the NFL specifically, I hate ripping a guy

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>or taking something like, yeah, look how many years he played.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 3>To get to the third? What is he?

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Thirteen yards or fourth and yards ever? Thirteen yards all

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the time, third in rushing yards ever.

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, in football, more than anybody in any sport,

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to.

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Credit longevity, especially at that position where.

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 2>We're like guys turn thirty or twenty eight and you're like, ah, boy,

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that's probably it.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's never gonna be that guy again.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 2>He got to like thirty eight and played for eight

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 2>more years or something, didn't he it's give me that

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight, twenty eight and.

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Plays for like eight more years.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, he played for a long time, forty years.

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm not knocking that. I'm just saying, like, I'm with you.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 4>I agree, I just like I don't like taking it away.

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 4>But again, that's a guy. They're gonna look at ap

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 4>and say he's one of the all time great town.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and he deserves to.

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Be in it.

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't dispute that at all. But they're not gonna

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 3>put in two running backs at the same time.

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 4>It was weird and I was not the or was

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 4>not going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 4>like that, because even though he played for a long time,

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 4>I think writers gonna be like, well, what's his signature run,

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 4>what's the signature season. Yes, he had played it. He

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 4>had a fantastic career. But as far as like I

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 4>hate the not gonna give the arguments. Was he ever

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 4>a top five position?

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Who cares? I know he's in.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's just how these guys think. It's It's

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 2>my reverse of the Oscars. Why do we have to

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>have ten Best Picture nominations?

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Why do we have to cap in five? Well, you know,

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the riber reason when it comes to

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the Hall of Fame.

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Switched it to Mayoka explain it to us, and it

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>is a very convoluted it is tylers shouldn't be that condent.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 3>No, it shouldn't like it should be where the best

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 3>guys go in.

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 2>We all it's funny because we all agree most of

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>them will at some point, but we're like, then, just

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why. I don't know why we're waiting

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 3>twenty years to put in Roger.

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 4>Because they want they want some guys to have to

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 4>earn it a little bit, which I think is ridiculous.

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 4>Like Roger Craig wait a long, long, long time. He

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 4>deserves it. Frank gorstridn't have to wait like five years.

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:56.839
<v Speaker 4>It should be like gold Jaggets. I know a guess

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 4>in the next like two seasons here, but they'll probably

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 4>make him wait. They'll probably make him wait because I

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 4>think despite the fact that he played for so long,

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of sports writers think that they're

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 4>not impressed by Frank Core's career.

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Frank Gore, I think it's in. Here's the

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 2>question I'd ask who gets in first? Frank Gore or

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Joe Staley.

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh cause Stale when is he eligible retiably?

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Soon? Probably now twenty twenty. Yeah, he probably eligible now.

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I would say Frank Core. I would say Frank or

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 4>for Staley.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's just that running backs get produced at such

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>a higher level in terms of who's it can and

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's Staley because of what we're talking.

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Position wise, Staley will get into he might because everybody

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>agrees he will go in. He will and so but

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, I would it surprise you if Staley

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.919
<v Speaker 2>went in first just because of the position.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't.

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.399
<v Speaker 4>I think that Frank Gore is more of a name

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 4>that I think sports writers will remember. But Joe, Joe

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Steely will have his time. It's always like some random

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 4>year where you know a guy that's been eligible for

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 4>quite some time.

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 3>You know a guy that's you know, multiple Pro Bowls,

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 3>all Pros. For Joe Staley will come out of left field.

0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I go out of nowhere.

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 4>You'll be like, you know, Mayoka Wild Tell's like there's

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Momentabaldy for Staley this year, but like why this year?

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>They're like, who's given the speech? He's like mcglinchy. They're

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna karaoke the speech together at the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Adam Copeland deep pop with you on the patty of

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight Social Giants and the Tigers that out of

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>seven to fifteen first pitch, we'll have pregame for you

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>at six fifteen right here on the Sports Leader. And

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 2>we also any members of the Filth coming out and

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 2>hanging out five forty five will do a dirty work.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Gets filthy with the filth, Is that what you're calling it? Yeah,

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>get dirty with the films, dirty with the films. Right, dude,

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you come out and if you're heart five forty five,

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Derrison'll let you pull up a chair in a mic.

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 3>And you can ask us one question, just one question. One.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. You try to compare it to a genie

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, that's way different. Yeah, it is different.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, we're already wishes. We're only granted wishes

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>if you bring a sick kid. Uh. We came the

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 2>artist over to call and to text me. Even then,

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and even then it's questionable. We'll take a quick break

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>when we come on back. The best sports rider in

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the country joined us each and every Friday, Marcus Thompson

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Athletic We'll do it with him next, only

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<v Speaker 2>here on the sports Leader