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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon, Adam Copeland Deepop hanging
Speaker 2: out with you from the patio at fifty eight Social.
Speaker 2: Giants pregame at six fifteen and I had for a
Speaker 2: seven to fifteen first pitch Giants and the Tigers opening
Speaker 2: up a homestand and a three game series. It is
Speaker 2: Wall of Fame weekend for the Giants, as they're going
Speaker 2: to put five more players up on the Wall of Fame.
Speaker 2: It'll be It'll be Buster Posey, Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt,
Speaker 2: Joe Panic, and Pablo Sandoval.
Speaker 3: Pretty big, pretty a good group. It's a great grove. Man.
Speaker 4: My question to you for a couple of weeks now
Speaker 4: is how fans can react to Buster Posey, And I
Speaker 4: think fine, and you have those group of guys together,
Speaker 4: I don't think it's'ud be like a maybe it's where
Speaker 4: he singled that at one point, but I think that
Speaker 4: fans know to separate what's going on right now with
Speaker 4: the team and what he's done in the front office.
Speaker 3: And some will still even probably a plaut for that,
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 4: But I think that a lot of fans will just
Speaker 4: remember Buster Posey the player, and that's the fair thing to.
Speaker 3: Do this weekend. Yeah. Also there's so many other players
Speaker 3: to celebrate.
Speaker 2: Brendon Crawford didn't get his flowers, Brandon Belt didn't get
Speaker 2: his flowers. Were just fantastic. And they did that Brandon
Speaker 2: Belt Day that was earlier this year, right, they do
Speaker 2: it Brandon Belt there. Yeah, they did the Belt Day.
Speaker 2: I think they did earlier this year. Yeah, so this
Speaker 2: year last, I can't remember. Yeah, all the all the
Speaker 2: l's are running together now.
Speaker 3: I only remember Bryce Olderch's Grand Slam. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: only funny.
Speaker 2: It's the only memory I have of Honestly, it's like
Speaker 2: playing golf. You hit like four hundred bad shots. Not
Speaker 2: that you would in one round. He shouldn't, or you'd
Speaker 2: be a really bad golfer, but uh you'd, uh, you
Speaker 2: hit like one good One's the only one you remember. Like, man,
Speaker 2: I just remember how that feel. So it keeps it
Speaker 2: keeps you coming back. You're attempted to it anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think oddly enough, Buster Posy, I don't think
Speaker 2: will be the focal point of this weekend.
Speaker 3: Nor should he. It'll be really cool to have Joe
Speaker 3: Panic back. Yeah. I'm excited to hear from him. And
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. The guy who's gonna get the
Speaker 3: biggest ovation, it's Pablo's animal. Oh yeah, that's a guy
Speaker 3: against the Tigers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I love that they're doing that. He should
Speaker 2: have his own day in and of itself. Don't forget he
Speaker 2: left and came back. Ye ll let Pablo pitch a
Speaker 2: guy with three home runs in a World Series game.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things about Pablo Sandoval. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure there are guys off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: I'm just not thinking of any right now. And baseball
Speaker 2: is like basketball and the NFL. Really, Basketball and baseball
Speaker 2: become so systematic in the way that they do things right.
Speaker 2: The sport with the most identity or unique identities is
Speaker 2: the NFL now, because you don't get different, you get
Speaker 2: different styles of play by different teams based on their philosophies,
Speaker 2: their offensive philosophy, the defensive philosophy, or you're talking Mike
Speaker 2: McDonald being a brilliant defensive play caller. Baseball used to
Speaker 2: have that. He used to have teams that were heavy
Speaker 2: pitching teams. And you'd have the teams that played small ball.
Speaker 2: You'd have the Cardinals in the eighties, it would swipe
Speaker 2: a bunch of bags. You'd have power teams like it would.
Speaker 2: There would be a very style of play, and everybody
Speaker 2: kind of did their own thing, and now everything's just
Speaker 2: become sort of uniform across the board. Pablo Sandoval was
Speaker 2: what we'd call a bad ball hitter. And it wasn't
Speaker 2: just that he was a bad ball hitter. He could
Speaker 2: hit anything. Like bad ball hitters were guys that could hit.
Speaker 2: They would just roll out of bed and hit. Larry
Speaker 2: Walker was a good bad ball hitter. Vlad Guerrero one
Speaker 2: of the best of all time. Those are two Hall
Speaker 2: of Famers. I just mentioned guys who you could bounce.
Speaker 2: I remember there was one that, like a pitch bounced
Speaker 2: in front of home plate and Vlad hit it off
Speaker 2: the wall. Yeah, like he hit it like it was.
Speaker 3: A golf ball. Pablo was like that.
Speaker 2: You couldn't He didn't have a spot that you could
Speaker 2: throw to that made you feel comfortable. He would chase,
Speaker 2: but he was really really good at making contact. I
Speaker 2: think I told you the first time I ever became
Speaker 2: aware of Pablo I went to a single A game
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. My buddy and I went
Speaker 2: to a Sanjose Giants game, and he was the starting
Speaker 2: catcher and he was hitting third or fourth in the game.
Speaker 2: He homered in the game twice, once from each side
Speaker 2: of the plate, and was the starting catcher. He was
Speaker 2: hitting like three seventy or three eighty. When the game ended,
Speaker 2: we were like, My buddy and I were like, dam dude,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be It's be great if this guy
Speaker 2: worked out. Switch hitting catcher, Big pudgy dude had some
Speaker 2: speed seemingly around the bases, and I believe was truly ambidextrous.
Speaker 2: I think they said he could throw just as good
Speaker 2: lefty as he could righty for the most part, and
Speaker 2: became a third baseman once he came up to the majors.
Speaker 2: But they had the whole big money, little money. But
Speaker 2: the point is is he was in single A in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, and I saw him in May
Speaker 2: or whatever. By August or September, he was in the majors.
Speaker 2: He was by August he was in the big leagues.
Speaker 2: He skipped double A entirely sent him straight to Triple A.
Speaker 2: Continued to hit, and he became one of the best,
Speaker 2: most favorite giants of that entire era. And I think
Speaker 2: people forget he was on the twenty ten World Series
Speaker 2: team and lost his gig at third base. They were
Speaker 2: starting Mike Fontno over at third base because Pablo went
Speaker 2: through just an awful slump, and by twenty twelve he
Speaker 2: shows up three home runs in that World Series game.
Speaker 3: I was sitting up here in three zero two.
Speaker 2: Remember remember I was I was gonna break it off
Speaker 2: with that girl and she gave me the to Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was here for that. No, No, she did tough deal. Kylin. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you, oh real quick. I
Speaker 3: was here for the ball game.
Speaker 4: Tell me your memories at Joe panic because he wasn't
Speaker 4: here for all three World Series, he was here for
Speaker 4: the last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, Joe Panick's one of the ones
Speaker 2: that I think about. He's the only I see, the
Speaker 2: only Yeah, it would have been like the only homegrown
Speaker 2: second basement. Like we talk about the three closers of
Speaker 2: the World Series years, right, you have Brian Wilson, of course,
Speaker 2: and you get Sergio Romo and then really it was
Speaker 2: Casilla that fourteen season. But Bumgarter nails it down in
Speaker 2: Game seven. Same thing for the second basement, right. I've
Speaker 2: talked a lot about them trading in nine for Freddy
Speaker 2: Sanchez at the deadline because they knew there wouldn't be
Speaker 2: anybody available. He's the second baseman in two thousand and
Speaker 2: it's crazy that all three second basement played major roles
Speaker 2: two in the World Series runs. He comes up, not
Speaker 2: comes up, Freddy Sanchez in his first three World Series
Speaker 2: at bats, first player ever have three doubles first three
Speaker 2: World Series at bats. Crazy fast forward two years later,
Speaker 2: First it's Ryan Fonton or not Ryan Terrio is the
Speaker 2: second basement. Then they make the trade for Marcus Scudro,
Speaker 2: who doesn't swing and miss for like a month and
Speaker 2: a half, basically makes all the contact in the world NLCSMVP,
Speaker 2: the great moment of him at second base with the
Speaker 2: rain pouring down, And then they move on again, and
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, at that point you get Joe Panicker
Speaker 2: comes up, Whin's up. I believe at one point winning
Speaker 2: a gold Glove was just the most solid two second
Speaker 2: basement type itter you could have through right, batted left,
Speaker 2: was a great slap guy, but had some pop could
Speaker 2: leave the ballpark. What I'll remember him for, and I
Speaker 2: think whatever Giants fan should remember him for, is Game
Speaker 2: seven in Kansas City, the flip double play, who I
Speaker 2: believe Jeremy Affelt was on the mound for that. I
Speaker 2: think a felt came in and like the second the
Speaker 2: third inning might have been like the second inning for
Speaker 2: Tim Hudson, who started.
Speaker 3: And funny thing is they knew.
Speaker 2: Huddy wouldn't get give him a lot, they knew he
Speaker 2: wasn't going deep into this one, but a crucial bubble play,
Speaker 2: the first ever reviewed play in a World Series game,
Speaker 2: and they get him by a nail. But the diving
Speaker 2: flip to Brandon Crawford, who gets up and rifles it
Speaker 2: to Brandon Belt at first. That's what I'll remember Joe
Speaker 2: panic for. Not a short not a long career, but
Speaker 2: a really really good giant and a fun giant.
Speaker 3: Dude made an All Star team at one point, I believe.
Speaker 2: So he came at the tail end of that era,
Speaker 2: and so it makes it a little bit a little
Speaker 2: bit harder to uh to outside to have the major
Speaker 2: moments in the major spots, because they've had what two
Speaker 2: playoff births since that World Series title in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: But that's all I'll remember is that incredible double play
Speaker 2: for a guy who was homegrown, and that they needed
Speaker 2: three second basemen and three different closers to win.
Speaker 3: Three World Series.
Speaker 2: It speaks to the stability of that core and with
Speaker 2: that front office and that coaching staff and what those
Speaker 2: players were able to do. And Joe Panic was just
Speaker 2: another incredible fit for it.
Speaker 4: No, I'm huge that first season twenty fourteen, but I
Speaker 4: remember twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3: He was out for all of that season.
Speaker 4: Most of that season, i should say, and he did
Speaker 4: weekly hits on Haberman and Middlcoff and I would talk
Speaker 4: to him every week, and it's hard to have a
Speaker 4: player on that's injured. So after a while I was like, Hey,
Speaker 4: you know, I know you're kind of like getting frustrated
Speaker 4: that you're not talking about, you know, being with the team.
Speaker 4: So what do you want to talk about? He goes, Uh,
Speaker 4: tell the guys, I'll like review movies. I'm just sitting
Speaker 4: on the couch watch a movie. So ask me what
Speaker 4: I'm watching. I'm like, all right, what kind of movies
Speaker 4: was watch? So Haman and guy guy in John are like, so,
Speaker 4: what are you watching Lately Joe and he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm watching Men in Black three.
Speaker 3: They're like is it good? No? Not really, And I
Speaker 3: was like, why would you t that up if you
Speaker 3: don't think it's good?
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not really. Can you break it down force?
Speaker 2: I could, I could want I won't, Yeah, I won't.
Speaker 3: It was it was that terrible.
Speaker 2: So I just gave you all the reasons I remember him.
Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, I remember he watched Men in
Speaker 2: Black You.
Speaker 4: Know the connection I had with him where he was like, hey,
Speaker 4: teaming up for like talking about the terrible movies I watch.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, Men in Black three, it sucks.
Speaker 4: It kind of like when I brought up F one
Speaker 4: last year and I was like, yeah, Cars, Room Room,
Speaker 4: he's pretty good.
Speaker 2: You put it in the rundown and said Derek's review
Speaker 2: of F one and then said, yeah, there's some good shots.
Speaker 4: Some good shots. Uh, you know, brat pick goes fast.
Speaker 4: By the way, you know, they're making they're remaking, not remaking.
Speaker 4: There was a sequel, The Days of Thunder, which is
Speaker 4: basically F one.
Speaker 2: F one Days of Thunder, and they're remaking it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably because of the success of F one. I think
Speaker 2: we're talking about making a sequel to F one.
Speaker 3: They probably will. I think they will.
Speaker 2: I watched F one recently, one of those movies where
Speaker 2: I was like, good movies, surprise.
Speaker 3: It got an oscar. Not Yeah, it didn't need that.
Speaker 2: No, we don't need ten. How many times we gotta
Speaker 2: do this? No, five's fine, we don't need ten. I'm
Speaker 2: waiting for when we do our dirty work, hits filthy
Speaker 2: with the filth or whatever a little bit later, and
Speaker 2: they sit down and ask us questions again, if you're
Speaker 2: here at five point fifty tonight, Derek set up a microwall.
Speaker 2: Shane set it up. But Derek's like, yeah, we're talking
Speaker 2: to the filth today.
Speaker 3: Why not.
Speaker 2: You guys are here, you can sit down and ask
Speaker 2: us one question? Is it one question each or just
Speaker 2: one question only one total for both of us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like I guess we'll genies give
Speaker 4: you three wishes, So for us, it's just one question
Speaker 4: like a genie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, no, one question and one question kind
Speaker 3: of like a genie. I'm like, we're not granting with this.
Speaker 4: I'm not granted any wishes here, although I might if
Speaker 4: you give me a present of something.
Speaker 2: You bring a sick kid, We'll grant your wish. It's
Speaker 2: the only way it's getting done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 3: kind of questions they'll ask, well, what would you project?
Speaker 3: What would you think? They probably asks a lot about
Speaker 3: me and my weird nature.
Speaker 2: You're weird nature? Yeah, I think I don't think you're weird.
Speaker 2: I think people are fascinated.
Speaker 3: They say that, but it's their nice way of saying, like,
Speaker 3: you're weird.
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm being nice or do you think
Speaker 2: I'm being being mean and thinking you're weird?
Speaker 4: Now I'm like a circus attraction for the show. Check
Speaker 4: out the free Yeah dance for me, Yeah, dance dance
Speaker 4: jes to it's my birthday.
Speaker 2: Ye bring me a pig eight away came here as
Speaker 2: a number to call the finus swine in the lad
Speaker 2: e Cambire on the board and text, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We're just killing time for her. He's still not there. Jesus,
Speaker 3: we get it. It is unbelievable. Wow, all right, we
Speaker 3: still got chips, chips, chips. You have you have another?
Speaker 3: You have another? Note?
Speaker 2: Did you make another infro or if you're hanging around longer,
Speaker 2: we're gonna need more content.
Speaker 3: Now we're good.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Cam, yours is the number to call and the
Speaker 2: number to text if you want to get involved in
Speaker 2: any of this conversation.
Speaker 3: You put this one down.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what this means. Big deal or
Speaker 2: no deal? NBA stories, just something.
Speaker 3: To talk about before Marcus comes on? Is it big
Speaker 3: deal or no deal? We'll do it next.
Speaker 2: NBA stories not a grab bag though, I really so,
Speaker 2: how about is this You're gonna throw them at me?
Speaker 3: And I decided this is a big dealers got.
Speaker 4: Down together like it's we'll talk about Kevin Durant and
Speaker 4: Pablo Torri's little report last night and are they big deals?
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a team we'll decide next.
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Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson joins us at three point fifty before we
Speaker 2: get to that, though, you put this segment in here
Speaker 2: because there's just been a guest smattering of NBA news
Speaker 2: smattering sort of.
Speaker 3: Like off courts. No, it's all off court stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: nothing significant when it comes to playreck with in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Is anything ever about on quarters?
Speaker 2: And always just pro wrestling, it's always it's a lot
Speaker 2: of and then they go play battle.
Speaker 3: Lebron signing was of a big deal, isn't that off court?
Speaker 3: There's a lot of and then he's gonna play. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be on court eventually, Yeah, but it's right now.
Speaker 3: It's just by the way. So you haven't watched New
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks yet, huh.
Speaker 2: Now, dude, I again, I don't like the idea of
Speaker 2: hard knocks. Now what the concept we were gonna like,
Speaker 2: I don't need a Super Bowl champion hard knocks. I
Speaker 2: didn't need a Buffalo pills hard knocks. I want to
Speaker 2: see a guy who's fighting for his job. I want
Speaker 2: to see quarterbacks who are fighting for their careers. He
Speaker 2: I want to see.
Speaker 3: That was the point. What's the hard knocks? Okay, you
Speaker 3: won it all, you might finish second.
Speaker 4: But then when they started initially years ago with the
Speaker 4: Ravens being on hard knocks, when they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but that team that's hard knocks. You don't
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 4: You don't think that the Seahawks of hard knocks was
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 3: Does everybody accused of murder ahead of the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, like it's interesting to see Mike
Speaker 4: McDonald at a new light, like more goofy and the
Speaker 4: way he is as a coach, Like I thought he
Speaker 4: was gonna be more of a hard ass, but honestly,
Speaker 4: like he's won thirty nine years old, there's at one
Speaker 4: point where there's a there's a big fight on the field,
Speaker 4: and what was his name the one Pat Derek call.
Speaker 4: He had a good super Bowl and he gets into
Speaker 4: a fight with an offensive lineman. He grabs him by
Speaker 4: the throat and pulls him down, and then Mike McDonald's like, whoa,
Speaker 4: that's a little too much there, and then the defense yeah,
Speaker 4: and then uh, well no, he's he he's kind of
Speaker 4: like just like, I mean, I like guys, you know,
Speaker 4: get into fights, but I don't appreciate that. And the
Speaker 4: defensive cord it comes by and he goes, well, did
Speaker 4: you hear what the offensive lineman said to him?
Speaker 3: What he said? Oh, you changed that, you got a contract.
Speaker 3: He goes, I don't like that. That's not fair.
Speaker 4: You gotta call it another brother because of their money
Speaker 4: like that. So he goes up to me goes, hey, man,
Speaker 4: you know I'm all for like, you know, getting a
Speaker 4: little feisty and everything, but did you have to like
Speaker 4: talking about his money?
Speaker 3: Come on, like that's your brother, man, come on, I
Speaker 3: don't do that. And then he's like, all right, fairt
Speaker 3: coach goes okay, all right, no, hug Dad will all
Speaker 3: go It's not a bad episode.
Speaker 4: But then they go to Sam Darnald to Cooper Cup like,
Speaker 4: whoa you see this Lebron James just signed the seventy
Speaker 4: six ers, and like they're like they were, like looking
Speaker 4: at all the comments, He's like, can you believe that
Speaker 4: people give him crap going to a good team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the same thing. What's the big deal? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Neither of you are Lebron.
Speaker 2: No, neither of you are at the peak of your
Speaker 2: private not that he's in the peak of his powers,
Speaker 2: but his impact. I think that felt a little different
Speaker 2: than Cooper Cups even last year. Yeah, I definite missed
Speaker 2: a lot of time last year.
Speaker 3: Last year, No he was there. Did he miss a
Speaker 3: lot of games last year?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Did he miss a check of two years ago? Then
Speaker 3: with the Rams, I don't know, man, all.
Speaker 2: Right, they were just winning ball games hand over fist
Speaker 2: and honestly like he was playing a lot opposite.
Speaker 4: It's a solid episode, and I still think the Rams
Speaker 4: could be pretty good. Seahawks will be good this year too.
Speaker 4: Niners will be good too. I just I don't know
Speaker 4: in the same vein as those two teams.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into these these stories, these stories.
Speaker 3: Deal or no deal, Big deal or no deal.
Speaker 4: Okay, So the Kevin Durant Twitter reaction with Klay Thompson
Speaker 4: and Draymond Green. I'm gonna say, yeah, a little bit
Speaker 4: of a deal here because when it comes to the
Speaker 4: Warriors days with Kevin Durant, I always wondered, as you
Speaker 4: look at those times fondly, and to me, this one
Speaker 4: interaction was very weird, like I remember, yeah, you kN
Speaker 4: Katy and Draymond getting into it like Katie's closest friend.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he was tighted with Zaza too,
Speaker 4: but really it was Steph Curry and Katie or not
Speaker 4: actually knows Clay and Zaza.
Speaker 3: I never mind.
Speaker 4: I don't remember Clay and Katy being particularly close. But
Speaker 4: this one interaction online was so weird where it's just
Speaker 4: a normal like Poleacher Report thing where it's like compair
Speaker 4: of these dude teams. You got the upcoming seventy six
Speaker 4: ers and the Warriors of twenty seventeen, so who's better.
Speaker 4: And Kevin Durant, probably thinking he's on his his burner account,
Speaker 4: responds saying, oh, you gotta say the seventy six ers.
Speaker 4: This guy's an MVP. That guy's an MVP. Klay Thompson
Speaker 4: hasn't been an MVP of nothing.
Speaker 3: O, brother, you got it? What you good? You gotta
Speaker 3: use my full government the yeah, And that's.
Speaker 4: A great response by Clay Thompson, and then Draymond responds
Speaker 4: being like, well, I thought Katie must have thought that
Speaker 4: he was on his burner account.
Speaker 3: So it's not a big deal.
Speaker 4: They're all like fight each other and they're not gonna
Speaker 4: do a reunion anyway because all them are still playing.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask Marcus, like, do you think Kevin Durant
Speaker 4: looks at his time with the Warriors fondly because he's
Speaker 4: always where he's kind of downplays it or doesn't want
Speaker 4: to come back, which I totally understand. But these guys
Speaker 4: took pride in that team. Steph, Claye, Raymond, all those
Speaker 4: guys do. And I don't think Kevin Durant does.
Speaker 2: No Again, I think I think he remembers that era differently,
Speaker 2: and I think because his career hasn't reached anything close
Speaker 2: to the level it reached when he was with the Warriors, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he feels different about it. I do wonder like, if
Speaker 2: you gave you know, I'm big on giving guys truth serum,
Speaker 2: if we gave Kevin durant truth serum and said, if
Speaker 2: you could go back and do it all over, would
Speaker 2: you have gone to Golden State.
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure he would have.
Speaker 4: I think he also would have said, if I had
Speaker 4: to do it all over again, would I've stayed and
Speaker 4: just had another deal with them?
Speaker 3: Well, that's two different, two different things, you know, if
Speaker 3: you could do it all.
Speaker 2: Over again and the get go, Because again, that's really
Speaker 2: the point in which it changed his image.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, remember what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer that had he stayed, not only
Speaker 2: do they compete for more titles, his image changes across
Speaker 2: the league. Because then it's not just like you went
Speaker 2: title hunting to join it team to beat you. It
Speaker 2: was like I joined a team I found, came that
Speaker 2: team found happiness. That's where I wanted to be. This
Speaker 2: is my home. I'm a legend in Golden State. This
Speaker 2: is my legacy, much like Lebron's in Cleveland or Kobe's
Speaker 2: in LA Even though it's a different situation, people would
Speaker 2: have felt differently about it if he had stayed with
Speaker 2: the Warriors and played eight nine years there, seven eight
Speaker 2: years there, if they committed right rather than what was
Speaker 2: he there for three three years?
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. So every year was a one
Speaker 3: year deal.
Speaker 2: And if he had locked in and stayed and was
Speaker 2: like I like it here, I'm happy here, I want
Speaker 2: to play. This is the place I want to be.
Speaker 2: I love the food here, I can still do on
Speaker 2: my trap.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Had he done that, I think he's viewed differently because
Speaker 2: not only would they have continued to win, but to
Speaker 2: your point, it would have looked like true happiness, like Okay,
Speaker 2: I found where I wanted to be, versus like Lebron
Speaker 2: where we knew he always was like I did my
Speaker 2: job here, I'm coming back to do it in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I did my job there. I want to go be
Speaker 3: in La Laker. That's what I want.
Speaker 2: We all knew that was the case. I think Lebron
Speaker 2: really did want to end his career there. Then they
Speaker 2: make the trade for Luca and everything changes yep, and
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, this is not they don't want me
Speaker 2: to be here, and that's or for the duration of
Speaker 2: my career.
Speaker 3: So we just have different is going forward.
Speaker 2: So like back to the Kevin Durant thing, like if
Speaker 2: he had done it again and could stay, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I do think he's gotten more. It feels like
Speaker 2: he's more outwardly bitter about the era then he has been,
Speaker 2: at least publicly previously.
Speaker 4: Or maybe he's just a basketball head that answered the
Speaker 4: question honestly and he just thinks about it like Uncle Drew. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like like like Raymond said, Uncle Drew. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, like does he need to say that about
Speaker 4: Clay like it never been an MVP and nothing like
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Yeahs, Like, yo, bro, what did I do on man?
Speaker 3: Like I ran you out? Come on? He's like, I
Speaker 3: wasn't yelling at you on the dock in LA. That
Speaker 3: was this whole public thing. But make of the stall.
Speaker 3: You know you're throwing that at me Jesus Okay.
Speaker 2: So to summon all up, not a big deal to me?
Speaker 3: Yes or no? Yes and no?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what's is it a big deal? Because it
Speaker 2: doesn't affect anything.
Speaker 3: It's a deal.
Speaker 2: What I would say is it doesn't affect anything, kind
Speaker 2: of confirm something that I already felt to be true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, but it kind of
Speaker 3: solidified it. Okay.
Speaker 4: Now, as far as the Kawhi, Leonard thinks So Kawhi
Speaker 4: Leonard scandal, and we all know what went on with Aspiration.
Speaker 4: Pablatory last night revealed that Kawhi was paid by Doctronix,
Speaker 4: a scoreboard company, to endorse their product, but much like Aspiration,
Speaker 4: Kawai never actually did an advertisement for them, so he
Speaker 4: just took the money. It was a way to circumvent
Speaker 4: the salary cap the same way that see Palmer did
Speaker 4: with Aspiration and got another company in this.
Speaker 3: So this is a deal. It is. But you know what,
Speaker 3: yes and no for me, okay. I give a ton
Speaker 3: of credit to Pablo Torri.
Speaker 4: He's one of the few people out there still doing journalism,
Speaker 4: so props to him for doing this.
Speaker 3: But me, as a sports fan, you know, take it
Speaker 3: from dumb and dummer, I don't care. I just don't.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I think that people do shady crap
Speaker 4: all the time behind the scenes, and I know it's
Speaker 4: very public and Kawhi Leonard's a big time player, but
Speaker 4: if you're asking me as a sports fan, I get it.
Speaker 4: This looks bad, but I just want to see him
Speaker 4: play for the Raptors. At this point, I really don't care.
Speaker 2: I really care about where he plays to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. You you're hold on your reasoning for not caring,
Speaker 2: is people these shady things all the time?
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think that's a good reason.
Speaker 2: So now we should just let things happen because it's
Speaker 2: happening everywhere.
Speaker 3: You got caught, partner, this is not allowed.
Speaker 2: You can tell me up and down it happens everywhere,
Speaker 2: but this one is public, and this one is making
Speaker 2: news and is making noise. You can't say, ah, well, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm sure other guys were gambling, like Pete Rose. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it happens, so it's just whatever. Let him know, dude. No,
Speaker 2: this circumvents the salary cap. What's the purpose of the
Speaker 2: cap if we're just going to be allowing teams to
Speaker 2: circumvent it. I am not opposing you, I'm not. But
Speaker 2: you're saying is shady stuff. I'm saying I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: with you on the idea that there's a ton more
Speaker 2: things happening behind the scenes than any of us are
Speaker 2: aware of. I'm also against the idea that, well, it's
Speaker 2: happening everywhere, so then we stop it. So you put
Speaker 2: a stop to it here and you clamp down on
Speaker 2: it elsewhere. It's against the rules. What's the point of
Speaker 2: blurring the lines on the rules. Why would we blur
Speaker 2: the lines on the parameters. We're gonna go, ah close
Speaker 2: enough to a first down? Where does it end, Derek,
Speaker 2: where does it end? Well, that's what we want. So
Speaker 2: you're talking about playing a game as opposed I'm talking
Speaker 2: about what allows the player to play for this team
Speaker 2: in that game. We're talking about rules that allow that
Speaker 2: player to play for this team within the game. That
Speaker 2: the rules are very strict within that game. The rules
Speaker 2: are strict outside of the game too, But we're gonna
Speaker 2: circumvent the rules and.
Speaker 3: Just allow it that. I mean, like, I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not up at arms about it, but.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say I don't care because everybody's doing it.
Speaker 3: To me, that's more reason to clamp down on this.
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: we say all the time, like do what you can
Speaker 4: to get that player right.
Speaker 2: That's not within I don't mean like in whatever, Like,
Speaker 2: am I upset at the Clippers for doing it? Not?
Speaker 2: Not particularly like I'm not upset about that. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but it is against the rules, and you
Speaker 2: got caught doing something.
Speaker 3: Against the Yeah, okay, so then where are we stopping?
Speaker 3: How many rules get me broke into what?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna compare this to Pete Rose games. It's different, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can get it. I made an apples and orange comparison.
Speaker 3: That was intentional.
Speaker 2: That's the nth degree of it. What I'm asking you, though,
Speaker 2: is where does it stop? Then? When do we allow
Speaker 2: it to continue? So you can say so you're gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: other players are doing it, okay, So then what's next?
Speaker 2: Can we give guys real estate? Can we give guys property?
Speaker 2: Can we like in soccer in the.
Speaker 3: Mllll all the time at college football for years? Again?
Speaker 2: Does that make it right? Or are we just gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: it's happened, so just keep going. Why do we allow
Speaker 2: just because we think and we know what's happening on
Speaker 2: a major scale, that's not reason to say, well, let's
Speaker 2: keep the fake rules in place.
Speaker 4: And so are you up in arms? When the Astros
Speaker 4: got Poppular's cheating scandal.
Speaker 3: I wasn't particularly about them.
Speaker 2: I was more like, wow, it's pretty clear this is
Speaker 2: a wide ranging thing, and I was That's why I
Speaker 2: was understanding the players themselves were not clamped down upon
Speaker 2: the same reason. I wasn't outraged by steroids because I'm like,
Speaker 2: we don't we know it's so widespread, we don't even
Speaker 2: know where to stop it, which means we have to
Speaker 2: go to one source and try to change the rules.
Speaker 2: I wasn't a fan of, well, if everybody's doing it,
Speaker 2: keep going. No, I'm a fan of we know it's
Speaker 2: so widespread that this is bad. We've got to put
Speaker 2: a stop to it to make sure the game is
Speaker 2: what we as fans believe we're seeing.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 2: This is apples and oranges to that, because again, this
Speaker 2: is about finances and about how far can a team go,
Speaker 2: And this to me is like big slimy corporation stuff,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: We're like, that affects every corporations owned basketball teams.
Speaker 3: Individuals do as well.
Speaker 2: Individuals own basketball teams, that's true, and they've used their
Speaker 2: connections to circumvent rules. So to say this is I did.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna say it doesn't you don't care and
Speaker 2: doesn't affect even fine, But I'm like, but it does
Speaker 2: because other teams may or might not be doing it.
Speaker 2: Are the worriers doing it, Like you might not want
Speaker 2: to be surprised, might not be mad if your own
Speaker 2: teams doing it. But I think that this is a story,
Speaker 2: and I think it's important that this gets stopped. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's where I'm at. But to say, like, if everybody's
Speaker 2: doing it, then do who cares?
Speaker 3: Change? Then change the rules to say we can do
Speaker 3: that because the league doesn't want that.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to be known so nonchalant about it,
Speaker 4: Like what my reaction is? I get it, like, I
Speaker 4: respect the fact that Pablo Torri is reporting on this
Speaker 4: and it is a story. But for me personally, I
Speaker 4: read the details, I'm like, all right, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 4: surprised by.
Speaker 2: This, right, But being not surprised it's different than thinking
Speaker 2: this is not allowed and it should be stopped.
Speaker 3: It probably should be stopping. Yeah, but like you mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4: Me as a sports fan, I'm like, I kind of
Speaker 4: don't want this investigation just ends. I can say, kawhi
Speaker 4: wan to play for the Raptors at this point.
Speaker 2: How many Raptors games you're watching? I don't know how
Speaker 2: many Clippers games did you watch? That affects you less?
Speaker 2: I kind of want to see him back in the
Speaker 2: Champion remember that one year he played there once? Yeah,
Speaker 2: who can't be his old tea?
Speaker 3: You want to see?
Speaker 5: Why are you ding?
Speaker 3: I want? I want to see Kawhi let it go?
Speaker 3: He always got a few years left in the league.
Speaker 3: Why are you dying to see him play for the
Speaker 3: rap die? And I just want to see like the
Speaker 3: trade happen? You want to see that happen? Save? I
Speaker 3: want to see Max Cross. We played for the race
Speaker 3: over under five and a half Raptors games you watched
Speaker 3: this season?
Speaker 4: Probably under Yeah, you don't want you don't even care,
Speaker 4: You don't care about any of this.
Speaker 3: We're we're caring about you know what you cared about?
Speaker 3: And sat? Did I filling.
Speaker 2: A three thirty second athletic joints us each and every week?
Speaker 2: He's the best sports rider in the Does he care?
Speaker 3: Do we wait?
Speaker 2: After the segment, We'll do it next with Marcus on
Speaker 2: The Sports Leader.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d
Speaker 1: Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before
Speaker 1: Tonight's Giants game. On The Sports Leader.
Speaker 2: It's Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon. What a fun
Speaker 2: week it's been from the package from the Path. You're
Speaker 2: at fifty eight Social getting ready for the Giants and
Speaker 2: the Tigers.
Speaker 3: The sun's trying to peek out. Yeah, we're trying to
Speaker 3: poke out a bit. Hello, I'm here, Hey, Hey, what up?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Come on by the fiftieth Socials getting ready open in
Speaker 2: just a little bit here and we'll be sitting down
Speaker 2: with some members of the filth about an hour, nearly
Speaker 2: two hours, about hour forty five, about five forty five.
Speaker 2: You guys are around, if anybody's here, got hope, fuck
Speaker 2: you imagine we'll do the we'll do the getting filthy
Speaker 2: with dirty work and we'll I guess, Derek, we're going
Speaker 2: to allow members of the filth to sit down and
Speaker 2: ask us one question, one question only our follow ups alot,
Speaker 2: like no follow ups or clarifications or like.
Speaker 3: If it's only tacky, willn't ask questions and maybe we just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, if Pat Age is here, he's gonna want
Speaker 2: to say yeah, he's gonna have rock, he'll have a question.
Speaker 3: So you got there's three questions there.
Speaker 2: If there's if these people actually show up that claim
Speaker 2: they're showing up, I think those guys will show up
Speaker 2: I think they are too, so, I mean, and who knows,
Speaker 2: it could be it could be a trivia question that
Speaker 2: might be fun. Okay, somebody dropped a trivia question. What
Speaker 2: do you think, by the way, about that note that
Speaker 2: I dropped on you, Well, we saw it yesterday. You
Speaker 2: and I were sitting in the studio, yeah, doing the show,
Speaker 2: and it was starting a break and I pointed up
Speaker 2: at that note on on TV about Aaron Donald if
Speaker 2: he joins the La Rams no team in NFL history
Speaker 2: as ever, it's not a surprise to me really because
Speaker 2: there's very few guys who have won multiple Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of ther awards anyway, and to end up on the
Speaker 2: same team. I mean, how many in the Salary cap
Speaker 2: Era have won multiple Probably just a handful JJ.
Speaker 4: Russ Smith, JJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Lawrence Sally cap Era.
Speaker 2: The Salary cap Era, there's no I mean, it's very rare,
Speaker 2: which is why this is gonna be monstrous because the
Speaker 2: notice note team has ever started two players with multiple
Speaker 2: TPO wise in their career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so if he comes over and it sounds like
Speaker 4: he's going to Like last night, my Florio on the
Speaker 4: broadcast was saying some matter.
Speaker 3: Of days where oh yeah, I'm Aaron Donald showing up.
Speaker 2: I think that's it. I'm by the rest of teller.
Speaker 2: But I didn't even say this at the top Marcus Thompson.
Speaker 2: We moved him to four four thirty. Marcus Thompson will
Speaker 2: join us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, I'm not gonna act like it's
Speaker 4: the same Aaron Donald. Like, it would be unfair for
Speaker 4: me to be like, well, it's not the same Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 4: it's not the same Aaron Donald. It's two years removed
Speaker 4: from playing and we'll talk about it more when it
Speaker 4: becomes official. But Aaron Donald still is Aaron Donald. Like,
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to be one hundred percent of Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4: Like if it's him with Miles Garrett and he's doing
Speaker 4: the same thing he did with Von Miller.
Speaker 3: He's not that he doesn't have to be the guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we've talked about with literally with Lebron, Right,
Speaker 2: isn't that what Lebron's goal was to find somewhere where
Speaker 2: there was enough around him where I can still be
Speaker 2: a focal point of a championship team, Right, But I
Speaker 2: don't have to be the guy who makes it all
Speaker 2: go because Lebron at his prime was scoring thirty a
Speaker 2: game and distributing better than anybody, making guys around it better.
Speaker 2: He's like, I can still do a lot of that.
Speaker 2: I just can't do it for thirty nine minutes tonight.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen at the same rate. And the
Speaker 2: same can be said. I think about Aaron Donald, which
Speaker 2: is why he's even considered. Like, if they don't get
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, I don't think this is a discussion.
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 2: If they just get Trey McDuffie, I think it's uh yeah,
Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie. There you go, yeah, Traylon Burkes, Trent McDuffie.
Speaker 3: Oh was that Titans receiver? Now he's part of the Commander,
Speaker 3: But was he a Titan? Yes? He was. He the
Speaker 3: guy they drafted after they traded away A. J. Browner,
Speaker 3: they were like, we'll fix this. Yeah. Was that that was?
Speaker 3: That was? That was? Was that ran Carthon? That was
Speaker 3: my boy traded him?
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, yeah, I don't know if he traded him,
Speaker 4: but my boy ran yeah, your boy ran Uh No,
Speaker 4: it was the guy from the Patriots that was originally
Speaker 4: with Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I when.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when it comes to Aaron Donald on the Rams,
Speaker 4: like yeah, well it'll be something and we'll see when
Speaker 4: it actually happens.
Speaker 3: Here because the Rams are going back to their facility.
Speaker 4: They were probatic seeing An lmu for a little bit
Speaker 4: of time, but now they're going back home and sounds
Speaker 4: like that's when Aaron Aaron Donald will reunite with Sean McVay.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the guys to win Defensive Player of the
Speaker 2: Year twice in their career.
Speaker 3: Okay, at least twice. JJ White, There's.
Speaker 4: Dude, there's not very many in the sarra oh salder
Speaker 4: cap barra.
Speaker 3: Right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: There's three guys who have won three, and you mentioned
Speaker 2: one of them, JJ Watti.
Speaker 3: There's everybody who's won at least two.
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor joined he won three, Aaron Donald and Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: Won three seventeen. And by the way, everybody who's won
Speaker 2: three went back to back at least once. Ok it's
Speaker 2: pretty incredible. So Donald went back to back seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 2: then he won twenty. Watt went back to back fourteen fifteen,
Speaker 2: but he also won twelve. He won three of four. Yes,
Speaker 2: he did, and Lawrence Taylor eighty one, eighty two and
Speaker 2: then eighty six. Okay, there's another guy that has it,
Speaker 2: won three, he's won two. There's now there's one, two, three, four, five.
Speaker 2: I think six more guys who won two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, Reggie White, Reggie White, of course, Alan Page,
Speaker 4: Alan Page, no, okay. Bruce Smith, Bruce Smith, yes, ninety
Speaker 4: and ninety six, Jack Lambert, Nope, no blunt nope, Jack
Speaker 4: Ham no. Oh man, the earliest, no, I this would
Speaker 4: be the earliest one.
Speaker 2: Mean, Joe Green, So he's the earliest of the multiple layers,
Speaker 2: and he went two of three singletary one at eighty
Speaker 2: five and eighty eight.
Speaker 3: That's right. Reggie White eighty seven and ninety eight. Ok.
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith ninety and ninety six, Ray Lewis two thousand,
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, Miles Garrett twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and twenty five. So when we go to like the
Speaker 2: modern era, they're just arn't I mean, like really in
Speaker 2: the modern game, Ray Lewis, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, JJ Watt.
Speaker 3: Are the only four two of one two?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Would you say that?
Speaker 2: Because like that's that's all post two thousand, right, that
Speaker 2: would be in the NFL's changed so much since since
Speaker 2: prior to two.
Speaker 3: Thousand, so I'd have to say, like, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Unique that you'd end up with like a Donald and
Speaker 2: a Garrett on the same team, but you wouldn't be
Speaker 2: looking for the same production from from Aaron Donald. It's
Speaker 2: just it's incredible what they could pose. You asked Ted
Speaker 2: new Win earlier in the show, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: made me laugh because Ted is such a great analytical
Speaker 2: understands the game at a level and a place that
Speaker 2: I don't watch the game from in terms of his
Speaker 2: film breakdown in the schematics. But you asked how they'd
Speaker 2: used Aaron Donald, and you asked them a great question
Speaker 2: about how he sees him breaking down, Whereas if you
Speaker 2: ask me that, I'm like, how the f you think, bro?
Speaker 3: He's in there to mess dudes up while it gets
Speaker 3: after the QB. But your question was.
Speaker 2: More about schematic and plugging the box and all that,
Speaker 2: and really the like how good are the We thought
Speaker 2: the Rams were the best team in the division in
Speaker 2: the conference before.
Speaker 3: The projection of Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you add him and it's like anything they
Speaker 2: get is found money.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's all on paper.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when you have two future Hall of Famers
Speaker 4: on one side of the ball, that's gonna be insane.
Speaker 4: And let alone what they got on the offensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball right now with Matt Stafford and Davante Adams.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Hall of Fame, you got the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame Ceremony, tomorrow, Hall of Fame, Wall of Fan Well
Speaker 4: for the Giants, NFL.
Speaker 3: Hall of Famous Tomorrow Race it is, Yeah, we want
Speaker 3: to get into that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: We got your guy, Drew Brees going in. Happy about that, dude,
Speaker 4: I don't stop. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I forgot until he walked his birth mark ass out
Speaker 2: on the field last night.
Speaker 3: He was going in. So yeah, Drew like that. He's
Speaker 3: not Captain America, Shane. He didn't save the city of
Speaker 3: New Orleans, dude, Well he did with his cher. No
Speaker 3: he didn't, dude, No, you know he didn't. So Drew
Speaker 3: Brees is going in anything.
Speaker 2: It was Steve what's his name with the diving at
Speaker 2: what was the block? Glease, Steve Glees and he shout
Speaker 2: him out. Yeah that's my guy, Gleason.
Speaker 4: I know Gleason over Brees Breeze going in, Lukeickley going in,
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald going in, Adam and Terry in.
Speaker 3: Of course locally Roger Craig going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be sweet. Man with Rodger Craig, it's cool
Speaker 2: to see him out there, long overdue. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not Belichick, no Belichick.
Speaker 4: No, which is crazy in itself, but as far as
Speaker 4: the guys are going this year, Like, I I get
Speaker 4: what you're saying with Captain America and Drew Brees, but
Speaker 4: the guy did accomplish a lot of I.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you have my back man. Yeah, yeah, the guy
Speaker 2: accomplished a lot as a QB. That's it, That's all
Speaker 2: I got. Yeah, he was good QB.
Speaker 4: I mean the passing young numbers, unbelievable, his battles with
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, that unbelievable playoff game in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: A man, when Downte was doing the show and them,
Speaker 2: did you get Drew Brees camp dude, remember his head
Speaker 2: just like moves one direction.
Speaker 3: That was a Ram Brooks. Brooks I was a Niners.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're like little head is like it's the
Speaker 4: most it looks it's a helmet stays in place, but
Speaker 4: his body could towards the like just like to thrown.
Speaker 2: His body just gets ripped. His head stays one place
Speaker 2: and then it follows it.
Speaker 4: I was like the Great Kazoo, where like his his
Speaker 4: head just like stays like it felt like it was
Speaker 4: so big, but like it just moves and his body
Speaker 4: like does it go with them.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever asked you this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you did not grow up a forty nine
Speaker 2: er fan, but you're a diehard football fan. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you've seen I mean, you've seen how many times the
Speaker 2: Niners have made the playoffs. You see it often? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're accustomed to it. Okay, you're used to that happening.
Speaker 2: Sure you watch the playoffs? Yeah, yes, so you've seen
Speaker 2: all those Niner playoff games. I have, what's your favorite
Speaker 2: forty nine er game? Just that front win or lose?
Speaker 3: Your favorite game you've.
Speaker 2: Watched that the Niners were in, Uh, like from a
Speaker 2: from a neutral if you could be a neutral fan.
Speaker 3: I think I want to say I was asked this
Speaker 3: on forty nine er day. Was it like?
Speaker 2: Was it because I gotta go for me? Like the
Speaker 2: I mean that Eagles game last year is a day
Speaker 2: I'm a good one.
Speaker 3: That's not my favorite.
Speaker 2: That's not my favorite. It's gotta be for me. Twenty
Speaker 2: eleven NFC Division One.
Speaker 3: I love watching it. Yeah, that's it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they won it, and as a
Speaker 2: Nighter fan, I wouldn't feel the same had they lost it.
Speaker 2: But I think that's my favorite forty nine Ers game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of fun watching that game.
Speaker 4: And I thought the Saints are gonna win that game
Speaker 4: because they were this high flying offense. The defense of
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers that year were unbelievable. But yeah,
Speaker 4: going into I mean at the time, it was, yeah,
Speaker 4: they played that game it Candlestick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so dreams run of dreams.
Speaker 4: And the Saints come back in that game where twice
Speaker 4: and like the last two minutes, I want to say
Speaker 4: it was Darren Sproles caught the screen route and went
Speaker 4: the rest of them the way.
Speaker 3: Then Jimmy Graham to.
Speaker 2: Be Graham catched the test on to go back up,
Speaker 2: and then you get the Vernon Davis toesch.
Speaker 4: I thought the game was over, and then three Alex
Speaker 4: Smith comes back and has a touchdown pass to Vernon
Speaker 4: Davis of course earlier, the touchdown run which my dad
Speaker 4: will always say, like he should just he should not
Speaker 4: have sqular, she should just fell down the one yard
Speaker 4: lines gone to out.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that one I mean too, he Caughtity Coddity
Speaker 4: caught it in ninety eight.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 4: The Giants Niners game where the Niners get back try
Speaker 4: John ket damage Johns.
Speaker 3: Get to fourteen.
Speaker 2: See, these are like, that's why I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: games of my childhood. These are the ones that are
Speaker 2: that are my fairst So what's your favorite.
Speaker 3: Probably the twenty eleven game that the one I was.
Speaker 3: I was in college.
Speaker 4: I was in Austin watching my friends and as soon
Speaker 4: as we had some Saints fans that were hanging on
Speaker 4: with us, and they were like, oh, that's over, Jimmy
Speaker 4: Graham with a touchdowns over, And I was like, I
Speaker 4: think so too.
Speaker 3: This is this is all by way of saying, who's
Speaker 3: the losing quarterback of that game? Drew Brees. That's what
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, we gotta get some stuff done.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more Hall of Fame a little bit later, by.
Speaker 4: The way, real quick, Yeah, it sounds like Matt Shamman
Speaker 4: has done for the season. He's gonna a specialist in Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: and it sounds.
Speaker 3: Oh my bad. Yeah, yeah, I was, I was gonna
Speaker 3: do I was gonna do it. Oh my bad.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, you're good. No, since you, why don't you
Speaker 2: finish that? And you get to read that though, that's
Speaker 2: how that works?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: Since you?
Speaker 3: Since you want to you want to give all the info? Now,
Speaker 3: oh my bad?
Speaker 4: You get to read the word The dugout Health Reports
Speaker 4: sponsored by Kyser Permanente a better idea.
Speaker 3: For health care?
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, except one to your health health there. I'll
Speaker 4: pull up the tweet here real quick.
Speaker 3: I got out, Well you can, you can pull up
Speaker 3: the tweet. But I do have the report from the Giants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as they gave out just a little bit of
Speaker 2: goes you said, Matt Chapman is going to have season
Speaker 2: ending uh abdominal surgeries A right?
Speaker 3: Is that where it's going? So you can get the
Speaker 3: PAVs tweet up.
Speaker 4: But I do have And he's flying out to Philadelphia
Speaker 4: to see a specialist on Sunday and expects to have
Speaker 4: season ending surgery on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: He has a hernia and been playing through it it
Speaker 3: most of the season.
Speaker 2: Well, I got I got more information than you do.
Speaker 2: He's gonna see he's gonna see doctor William Myers in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: William Meyers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Myers. Uh, that's the science guy. Yeah, Bill Myye,
Speaker 2: the science guy. He's gonna go see him in Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: as you said, for phill evaluation, possible surgery. Uh, next week,
Speaker 2: but he's gonna miss the remainder of the year. How
Speaker 2: about New Giant who they were hoping or they are
Speaker 2: hoping to get back. We got that from Boston for
Speaker 2: Eric Miller. Marcelo Meyer. Yeah, bone stress reaction in the
Speaker 2: left ulna. That's a that's up here, okay, Olla, that's
Speaker 2: up in your arm. Anyway, he's expected Dirks and they
Speaker 2: say August or September. He's gonna report to San Francisco
Speaker 2: on August fifth. I saw him post yesterday video. He's
Speaker 2: already here. Took a little photo of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm here in San Francisco. So Marcelo Meyer
Speaker 2: getting ready to join the team. Matt Gage that left
Speaker 2: elbow strain and he's gonna return. They say sometime in
Speaker 2: the second half. Started throwing off flat ground and he's
Speaker 2: throwing progression is about at sixty feet, so those are
Speaker 2: the closest guys to return seeming way as it stands
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Roger Craig.
Speaker 2: Let's talk more Roger Craig when we come out back.
Speaker 2: He's going into the Hall of Fame and well deserved.
Speaker 2: Eightyway Camby are four and five eight eight five sixty sevens.
Speaker 2: If you got thoughts on Roger Craig, No, not that one,
Speaker 2: the football one. Oh, we'll do it next only here
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Speaker 1: Live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park. This is
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Speaker 3: At the Rams.
Speaker 1: In week seven, Craig played the game of his life.
Speaker 2: Hey for the end, put down forty nine er.
Speaker 3: He is the best back in the league right now.
Speaker 1: He rushed for one hundred and ninety yards, scored three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: tottdown and ripped off one of the greatest runs in
Speaker 1: NFL history.
Speaker 5: But the drop the middle of the Gregg Andy Bright
Speaker 5: who loads and runs loose. He got heart from the
Speaker 5: thirty to the twenty nine. He's out of the twenty
Speaker 5: Greig Cloth again. Up an tank, you're the run.
Speaker 2: By Run You're in prime nice pretty cool, Oh, pretty
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 3: There, Joe Starkey, Americas Films. It was an America's game,
Speaker 3: America's game.
Speaker 4: The nineteen eighty eight forty nine Ers, which a lot
Speaker 4: of fans would say was the worst Super Bowl team
Speaker 4: because they went ten and six, but still memorable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: We think about that same way as like the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one NFC Championship. I don't think about that as
Speaker 2: a bad team and help, but they were three and five,
Speaker 2: finished ten and six, and they lost that then NFC
Speaker 2: title game to the to the l A Rams. Dirty work.
Speaker 2: On a Friday, We're live from fifty eight Social. We
Speaker 2: got the Giants Wall of Fame ceremony tomorrow. Five World
Speaker 2: Series champion Giants going on the Wall of Fame, Buster Posey,
Speaker 2: Brandon Bell, Brandon Crawford, Joe Panic, Pablo Sandoval. How many
Speaker 2: of those guys have Buster's got all three, Pablo's got
Speaker 2: all three, Crawford has two, Belt has two, and Panic
Speaker 2: has won.
Speaker 3: There you go, so pretty cool that all three.
Speaker 2: Of those guys are going into the the Wall of
Speaker 2: Fame at all, all stars at some point for the
Speaker 2: Giants all spend at least five years here, multiple world titles.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna find a better collection except for the
Speaker 2: Hall of Famers, the five Hall of Fame giants from
Speaker 2: the San Francisco era with better accolades. But even those
Speaker 2: guys done total the world titles that these guys have,
Speaker 2: those guys have the career numbers. But also it is
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame Canton ceremony tomorrow after the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame game last night, Cardinals and the Panthers, and
Speaker 2: Roger Craig is going in. And I don't think any
Speaker 2: Nyer fan, not that there's going to be ever to
Speaker 2: be a dispute from a fan base about a guy
Speaker 2: from their team going in. I don't think there's a
Speaker 2: Niner fan that watched Roger Craig play that wasn't upset
Speaker 2: that he wasn't in the Hall of Fame, that did
Speaker 2: not have the take like Giants fans. San Francisco Giants
Speaker 2: fans are like, yeah, it doesn't mean anything until Bonds
Speaker 2: is in.
Speaker 3: Craig's not at that level.
Speaker 2: But we're like, there's no like, he's a guy that
Speaker 2: you bang the drum for at least the guy that
Speaker 2: you the pound the dirt four and say, hey, we
Speaker 2: need this guy in the Hall of Fame, and he
Speaker 2: deserves to be there. And I want to get into
Speaker 2: some other future ones potentially, because there's probably like four
Speaker 2: or five other guys who are not playing. Because George Kittle,
Speaker 2: I think is a Hall of Famer. Yes, Mike Evans
Speaker 2: will be. It doesn't matter what team, but he's obviously
Speaker 2: a buccaneer. He's Christian McCaffrey's a Hall of Famer. I
Speaker 2: would say Katt Williams is a Hall of Famer, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, so there's a series of guys that will
Speaker 2: go in that are active that will associate with forty
Speaker 2: nine ers football.
Speaker 3: McCaffrey probably here over the Panthers, right because.
Speaker 2: I would say so of his years and success, but
Speaker 2: it really it'll be a split career mostly by the
Speaker 2: time he's done, but it'll be a little bit more here.
Speaker 2: I think. Bottom line is Roger Craig was probably the
Speaker 2: top of the list after Bryant Young got in for
Speaker 2: the long standing guys who had not been in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame yet, and he was out for longer
Speaker 2: than Brian, You was right, young played more recently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you were talking about pounding the table.
Speaker 4: I mean Matt Mayo has been pounding the table for
Speaker 4: quite some time. When it comes to Roger Craig, he
Speaker 4: was eligible in nineteen ninety eight, and we talk about
Speaker 4: receiving running backs, He's the guy that broke the mold.
Speaker 4: Like Christian McCaffrey is able to do this because Roger
Speaker 4: Craig did it at a time where running backs didn't
Speaker 4: catch passes at this volume. Right, it's insane, Like go
Speaker 4: to his nineteen eighty five season. Give it to me,
Speaker 4: give me some of those He rushes for one one
Speaker 4: thousand and fifty yards nine touchdowns, but then he catches
Speaker 4: ninety two balls for one thousand, sixteen for six touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He's the first running back ever to have a thousand thousands.
Speaker 2: Unbelieva and he did it in won a sixteen game season. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So, I mean he did that nineteen eighty eight. We
Speaker 3: came with the highlight in and.
Speaker 2: I'm by the way, I'm I'm a big believer, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not in on putting guys in for one big
Speaker 2: season or one accolade like that. I don't think that
Speaker 2: one thing won achievement in a season, doesn't know, dude.
Speaker 2: But because of as we get further away from it,
Speaker 2: even in a season where we're playing seventeen games, the
Speaker 2: further we get, we see how rare that is.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Prior to that, like Roger Craig was scoring three touchdowns
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl against the Dolphins. So no, it
Speaker 4: wasn't just a one off season like nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4: We came with the highlight an amazing game against the Rams.
Speaker 4: One of the more his memorable run, I guess is
Speaker 4: in that game where so many guys are trying to
Speaker 4: tackle him his high knees, and Bill Walsh always talked
Speaker 4: about he looked like a caffish in the backfield because
Speaker 4: his eyes would get so big. I mean, yeah, Roger Craig,
Speaker 4: you made the argument that maybe he's the best running
Speaker 4: back at fort nine or history, Like, yes, Frank Gore
Speaker 4: has the stats and the longevity.
Speaker 3: Mcaffick's in the conversation as well, Ricky Waters.
Speaker 4: So they think about all the receiving running backs they had,
Speaker 4: Like Bill Walsh wanted to have this West Coast style
Speaker 4: of offense where I mean, we see it today so
Speaker 4: many running backs are catching passes at the backfield.
Speaker 3: Just look look at this week.
Speaker 4: You had Bjeon Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, and Jamier Gibbs all
Speaker 4: get contract extensions.
Speaker 3: And really the guys that are gonna.
Speaker 4: Be you know, as far as like the best running
Speaker 4: backs of football, it's b Jeon Robinson and Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 4: And what sets them apart from other running backs because
Speaker 4: they can catch the ball out of the backfield. In
Speaker 4: my opinion, more so, Jamier Gibbs, like b Jehan Robinson,
Speaker 4: set the le or led the league in yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 4: But really it's Jamiir Gibbs. He's so explosive, and really
Speaker 4: you need to be that type of athlete these days.
Speaker 4: You need to be a running back that impacts the
Speaker 4: passing game. So at this point, Christian McCaffrey has already
Speaker 4: eclipsed most of Roger Craig's numbers. But Roger Craig was
Speaker 4: the guy that set the standard. There is no Marshall
Speaker 4: fault with our Roger Craig. So I'm baffled it took
Speaker 4: this long, and he had great performances in multiple Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: So I'm very happy that Roger Craig is getting in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the question I have then is, because you
Speaker 2: mentioned Ricky Waters, how many other former forty nine ers
Speaker 2: are we are we waiting to go in? Well, obviously
Speaker 2: Frank or Frank Gore is the top of the list
Speaker 2: and he's probably gonna get in fairly soon, fairly soon.
Speaker 2: But this but we've talked about the waiting and how
Speaker 2: they're only but it's a very weird system.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: It's it's a funnel system, right where it gets voted
Speaker 2: down to a certain number of players, and it keeps
Speaker 2: getting weeded down, and then they only put in an
Speaker 2: x number each year, five guys or something, especially.
Speaker 3: By position too, like when it was announced that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So, like Niner fans, their reaction to the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame ceremony this year is like, Frank Gore didn't
Speaker 4: get in?
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 4: Well, Roderic Craig got in? Oh okay, all right, Craig,
Speaker 4: I'll take that. And you know what, even Frank Core
Speaker 4: would say, it's time for Roger Craig to get in.
Speaker 4: But I told you and a lot of people like,
Speaker 4: it's gonna take some time for Frank Or to get
Speaker 4: in there, and even next year Adrian Peterson it's his
Speaker 4: first year of eligibility. You don't think Adrian Pearston's getting
Speaker 4: in over Frank Or.
Speaker 3: I think so too. I think so he's gonna wait
Speaker 3: some time there as far as other forty get in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson absolutely, he won an MVP, didn't he? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was a better player. Come on, No, I'm not
Speaker 3: disputing that. I'm not disputing that.
Speaker 2: You're talking No, I'm talking like, longevity is a thing, Okay,
Speaker 2: Like in the NFL specifically, I hate ripping a guy
Speaker 2: or taking something like, yeah, look how many years he played.
Speaker 3: To get to the third? What is he?
Speaker 2: Thirteen yards or fourth and yards ever? Thirteen yards all
Speaker 2: the time, third in rushing yards ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like, in football, more than anybody in any sport,
Speaker 2: I think it's important to.
Speaker 3: Credit longevity, especially at that position where.
Speaker 2: We're like guys turn thirty or twenty eight and you're like, ah, boy,
Speaker 2: that's probably it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's never gonna be that guy again.
Speaker 2: He got to like thirty eight and played for eight
Speaker 2: more years or something, didn't he it's give me that
Speaker 2: thirty eight, twenty eight and.
Speaker 3: Plays for like eight more years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he played for a long time, forty years.
Speaker 4: I'm not knocking that. I'm just saying, like, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I agree, I just like I don't like taking it away.
Speaker 4: But again, that's a guy. They're gonna look at ap
Speaker 4: and say he's one of the all time great town.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he deserves to.
Speaker 2: Be in it.
Speaker 3: I don't dispute that at all. But they're not gonna
Speaker 3: put in two running backs at the same time.
Speaker 4: It was weird and I was not the or was
Speaker 4: not going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer
Speaker 4: like that, because even though he played for a long time,
Speaker 4: I think writers gonna be like, well, what's his signature run,
Speaker 4: what's the signature season. Yes, he had played it. He
Speaker 4: had a fantastic career. But as far as like I
Speaker 4: hate the not gonna give the arguments. Was he ever
Speaker 4: a top five position?
Speaker 3: Who cares? I know he's in.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just how these guys think. It's It's
Speaker 2: my reverse of the Oscars. Why do we have to
Speaker 2: have ten Best Picture nominations?
Speaker 3: Why do we have to cap in five? Well, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know the riber reason when it comes to
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Switched it to Mayoka explain it to us, and it
Speaker 2: is a very convoluted it is tylers shouldn't be that condent.
Speaker 3: No, it shouldn't like it should be where the best
Speaker 3: guys go in.
Speaker 2: We all it's funny because we all agree most of
Speaker 2: them will at some point, but we're like, then, just
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know why we're waiting
Speaker 3: twenty years to put in Roger.
Speaker 4: Because they want they want some guys to have to
Speaker 4: earn it a little bit, which I think is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Like Roger Craig wait a long, long, long time. He
Speaker 4: deserves it. Frank gorstridn't have to wait like five years.
Speaker 4: It should be like gold Jaggets. I know a guess
Speaker 4: in the next like two seasons here, but they'll probably
Speaker 4: make him wait. They'll probably make him wait because I
Speaker 4: think despite the fact that he played for so long,
Speaker 4: I think a lot of sports writers think that they're
Speaker 4: not impressed by Frank Core's career.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Frank Gore, I think it's in. Here's the
Speaker 2: question I'd ask who gets in first? Frank Gore or
Speaker 2: Joe Staley.
Speaker 3: Oh cause Stale when is he eligible retiably?
Speaker 4: Soon? Probably now twenty twenty. Yeah, he probably eligible now.
Speaker 4: I would say Frank Core. I would say Frank or
Speaker 4: for Staley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just that running backs get produced at such
Speaker 2: a higher level in terms of who's it can and
Speaker 2: I feel like that's Staley because of what we're talking.
Speaker 2: Position wise, Staley will get into he might because everybody
Speaker 2: agrees he will go in. He will and so but
Speaker 2: it's just like, I would it surprise you if Staley
Speaker 2: went in first just because of the position.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I think that Frank Gore is more of a name
Speaker 4: that I think sports writers will remember. But Joe, Joe
Speaker 4: Steely will have his time. It's always like some random
Speaker 4: year where you know a guy that's been eligible for
Speaker 4: quite some time.
Speaker 3: You know a guy that's you know, multiple Pro Bowls,
Speaker 3: all Pros. For Joe Staley will come out of left field.
Speaker 3: I go out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: You'll be like, you know, Mayoka Wild Tell's like there's
Speaker 4: Momentabaldy for Staley this year, but like why this year?
Speaker 2: They're like, who's given the speech? He's like mcglinchy. They're
Speaker 2: gonna karaoke the speech together at the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
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