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Mondays, Wednesdays, 0:00:36.090 --> 0:00:38.330 and Fridays, Johnson won two in a row. They're going 0:00:38.350 --> 0:00:40.949 for a sweep today. Man, another bad injury to a 0:00:40.990 --> 0:00:43.530 starting pitcher. Lots to talk about. But before we get 0:00:43.570 --> 0:00:45.910 to any of that, Mike. I heard you do it 0:00:45.950 --> 0:00:48.220 last night on the broadcast, and we've been playing rejoins 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:53.540 all morning. Let's open with the global morning for Dolly Parton. Now, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.500 you're a music guy all the way. We know when 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.360 the crew goes get together, man, the instruments come out 0:00:57.380 --> 0:01:00.360 and the sing-alongs get going. And I could only imagine 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.420 Dolly coming to your house for a sing-along is the 0:01:03.470 --> 0:01:05.930 collaboration I needed, Mike, because you guys have the same 0:01:05.970 --> 0:01:09.569 kind of energy and positivity. And just your thoughts on, 0:01:09.770 --> 0:01:12.610 you know, your kind of career was when she was 0:01:12.650 --> 0:01:13.589 a superstar, too. 0:01:13.690 --> 0:01:14.830 So good morning. 0:01:15.180 --> 0:01:17.200 Good morning, Mike. Yeah, good morning. 0:01:17.260 --> 0:01:18.920 A sad day. I mean, she was a gift in 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.950 so many ways. You know, in my life, you kind 0:01:22.990 --> 0:01:25.610 of get pigeonholed into a style of music and whatnot, 0:01:25.650 --> 0:01:28.069 and you kind of bypass it. And then later on 0:01:28.110 --> 0:01:32.810 in my life, I would find these singers that were amazing. 0:01:32.850 --> 0:01:35.709 I remember one time I was in a record store 0:01:35.750 --> 0:01:39.210 in San Luis Obispo, just killing time, looking at albums. 0:01:40.569 --> 0:01:44.340 And I hear this woman singing. in the music store. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.740 And I'm listening, I'm going, damn, that gal's amazing. And 0:01:47.860 --> 0:01:51.310 I went over to the guy at the, behind the desk. 0:01:51.340 --> 0:01:53.810 I said, who's that singing? He goes, well, that's Ella Fitzgerald. 0:01:54.830 --> 0:01:57.390 No. Well, I get it. 0:01:57.590 --> 0:02:00.170 Like one song, I could get all the fuss. And I, 0:02:00.810 --> 0:02:02.450 you know, I, I didn't know anything about this gal. 0:02:02.510 --> 0:02:02.770 Right. 0:02:02.790 --> 0:02:05.280 And then I dove into her and whatnot. I did 0:02:05.300 --> 0:02:08.459 the same thing with Frank Sinatra. I discovered him late 0:02:09.220 --> 0:02:11.200 and it was that way with Dolly Parton. I mean, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.920 the first time I heard her, was, I mean, I 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.680 couldn't believe her voice. As pure as pure can be. 0:02:18.980 --> 0:02:21.950 And the other thing about her, I mean, Dolly Parton, 0:02:22.870 --> 0:02:24.650 I would hear a song and I'd say, that's a 0:02:24.669 --> 0:02:25.290 great song. 0:02:25.690 --> 0:02:27.010 Did she write that song? No. 0:02:27.470 --> 0:02:29.750 Dolly Parton wrote that song. I'll bet that happened a 0:02:29.790 --> 0:02:32.970 dozen times in my life. And so she was just 0:02:32.990 --> 0:02:37.160 a star and wasn't an accomplished musician, but her voice 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.580 was just, it was so pure and so good. And 0:02:41.620 --> 0:02:44.500 she had so much fun. And when you watched her perform, 0:02:45.260 --> 0:02:48.950 she brought joy. And she was just happy. She was 0:02:48.990 --> 0:02:51.430 doing what she was put on the surface. And she 0:02:51.490 --> 0:02:55.130 knew it. And everything about what she did was fun. 0:02:55.389 --> 0:03:01.760 Even Dollywood. I mean, everybody raised their eyebrows. My son 0:03:01.820 --> 0:03:06.040 went to Dollywood when he was touring in Tennessee. 0:03:06.060 --> 0:03:07.980 And he said, Dad, it was unbelievable. 0:03:08.540 --> 0:03:10.910 It was so much fun. And I think that's the 0:03:10.950 --> 0:03:13.429 way she was, and she just brought happiness to a 0:03:13.470 --> 0:03:15.209 lot of people, certainly to our family. 0:03:15.290 --> 0:03:17.090 I'm going to kind of go off the grid here. 0:03:17.110 --> 0:03:18.710 I know we'll get to the Giants in just a second, 0:03:18.730 --> 0:03:21.400 but all the tributes that came out yesterday were so amazing. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.540 This is one from the late Roger Ebert. Did you 0:03:23.580 --> 0:03:27.900 see this? Do you remember the movie reviewer Roger Ebert? Oh, yeah. 0:03:27.980 --> 0:03:30.220 He and Siskel and Ebert. He wrote this. This is incredible. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.160 He goes, in Dallas for the premiere of 9 to 5, 0:03:32.139 --> 0:03:35.270 the movie 9 to 5. I had an uncanny experience, 0:03:35.290 --> 0:03:37.150 and on the plane home to Chicago, I confessed it 0:03:37.210 --> 0:03:39.740 to Siskel. I had been granted a private half hour 0:03:39.750 --> 0:03:41.800 with Dolly Parton, and as we spoke, I was filled 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.220 with a strange, ethereal grace. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.560 This was not spiritual, nor was it sexual. It was 0:03:47.660 --> 0:03:48.940 healing and comforting. 0:03:49.540 --> 0:03:52.120 Jean listened and said, Roger, I felt the exact same 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.160 thing during my interview with her. 0:03:54.570 --> 0:03:56.330 We looked at each other. What did this mean? 0:03:56.670 --> 0:03:59.029 Neither one of us ever felt that feeling again. From 0:03:59.090 --> 0:04:01.230 time to time, we would refer to it in wonder. 0:04:01.630 --> 0:04:04.660 She was almost like this Angel, Mike. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.920 I think that's a great way to describe her. And, 0:04:09.820 --> 0:04:13.930 you know, when you have– when you're around a person 0:04:13.970 --> 0:04:16.710 like that, when you feel a person before you actually 0:04:16.730 --> 0:04:18.810 see them in the room, you know. 0:04:19.410 --> 0:04:23.710 You can't help but stare. And it's a point. 0:04:23.790 --> 0:04:26.830 I mean, staring is rude. But it isn't when you're 0:04:26.850 --> 0:04:28.729 around a person like that because you can't take your 0:04:28.770 --> 0:04:29.250 eyes off them. 0:04:29.970 --> 0:04:31.530 And she was that way. 0:04:31.770 --> 0:04:33.970 I mean, she was magical, man. 0:04:34.750 --> 0:04:36.520 So anyway, I knew you would be, and it's a 0:04:36.580 --> 0:04:39.960 big story around the world. So anyway, we thank her 0:04:40.020 --> 0:04:41.920 for all the gifts. It's sad to be in a 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.560 world without her. But on to the baseball. 0:04:45.260 --> 0:04:47.160 Mike, they won. And I know we got to talk 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.360 about Adrian Hauser. That was really, really tough. 0:04:49.420 --> 0:04:53.029 But how do you sort of explain– These lineups the 0:04:53.070 --> 0:04:56.250 last two days, Turner Hill at cleanup, Shea Whitcomb at third, 0:04:56.770 --> 0:04:59.350 Anthony Molina on the mound. Guys, Giants fans, you have 0:04:59.370 --> 0:05:01.029 to be a super hard-o to even know who these 0:05:01.070 --> 0:05:03.010 guys are. How do you explain them winning two in 0:05:03.050 --> 0:05:03.270 a row? 0:05:04.510 --> 0:05:05.000 Defense. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:10.320 The defense the last two days have been spectacular. I've 0:05:10.380 --> 0:05:14.820 always believed that the sure sign of a baseball player 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.380 is their first step on defense and their first step 0:05:17.430 --> 0:05:21.070 on the base pass. And that was really in full 0:05:21.150 --> 0:05:24.050 splendor the last two nights, especially in the outfield. I mean, 0:05:24.070 --> 0:05:28.310 you had, you know, you had Turner Hill and you 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:34.300 had Drew Gilbert and you had Grant McRae and they 0:05:34.339 --> 0:05:36.400 were amazing. Those are the three center fielders right there. 0:05:36.460 --> 0:05:39.000 I mean, but if you watched, you know, their first 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.840 step to the ball, I mean, it was almost like 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:41.680 when a. 0:05:41.660 --> 0:05:43.880 Ball was hit, they all moved. 0:05:43.900 --> 0:05:46.000 That first step was going at the same time as 0:05:46.020 --> 0:05:48.580 the ball. But it was hit in center field. I mean, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.140 even the corner outfielders were, you know, that first step 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.279 was going to the ball. And it was just so 0:05:54.820 --> 0:05:59.080 choreographed and beautiful. I mean, to me, that's what makes 0:05:59.140 --> 0:06:02.109 a game. I would prefer to have a team behind 0:06:02.150 --> 0:06:04.390 me more so than an offense every time when I 0:06:04.410 --> 0:06:04.789 was pitching. 0:06:05.630 --> 0:06:07.630 Because they make. 0:06:07.570 --> 0:06:12.810 Plays and they take away 90-foot mistakes. And that's what 0:06:12.830 --> 0:06:15.510 the Giants all year long have done consistently is they 0:06:15.570 --> 0:06:18.950 give 90-foot mistakes. The last two nights have been the 0:06:18.990 --> 0:06:23.210 other way. Those are really, really fun games for me. 0:06:23.230 --> 0:06:27.500 We're learning Turner Hill's game right now. He's a guy 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.580 that does a lot of little things. It reminds me 0:06:31.620 --> 0:06:34.620 of Mike Yastrzemski. When Yastrzemski first came up, it was 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.779 fun to watch how fundamentally sound he was. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.900 Everything was perfect. He didn't have a great arm, but he. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.050 Had a great system. He had tremendous accuracy. 0:06:45.330 --> 0:06:47.990 He had a really quick Well, it's the same thing 0:06:48.020 --> 0:06:48.380 with Hill. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.270 I mean, he goes out and you watch his footwork. 0:06:51.970 --> 0:06:54.650 When he's playing left field, he's a left-handed outfielder. So 0:06:55.270 --> 0:06:57.669 when he goes over to the foul line, he catches 0:06:57.730 --> 0:06:59.770 the ball and he threes it before he gets the 0:06:59.810 --> 0:07:03.290 ball to throw to second base. And his footwork is 0:07:03.350 --> 0:07:06.650 so compact. You know, guys have footwork, but their strides 0:07:06.690 --> 0:07:08.110 are longer, and it takes them longer to get rid 0:07:08.130 --> 0:07:10.450 of the ball, not him. And that is something that, 0:07:10.590 --> 0:07:13.430 you know, he– I don't know. You're not born with that. 0:07:13.510 --> 0:07:15.170 That's something you have to figure out, and you have 0:07:15.190 --> 0:07:17.500 to be taught, and then you have to perfect. And 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.480 he's got a bunch of things like that to his game. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.780 So if you look at what we saw, you know, 0:07:22.820 --> 0:07:27.560 Koss was saying, you know, he's a really good shortstop. And, 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.800 you know, we're really impressed with. 0:07:31.660 --> 0:07:32.280 Shea Whitcomb. 0:07:32.340 --> 0:07:33.770 I mean, this is our first chance to see him. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.840 Here's a guy that plays three infield positions, the ground 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.940 pick by Houston. And now I see what all the 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.850 fuss is about. You know, he has a nice glove 0:07:40.870 --> 0:07:42.990 and a good arm. And, I mean, you can say 0:07:43.030 --> 0:07:45.610 the same thing about Furman. So you've got a lot 0:07:45.650 --> 0:07:47.750 of these young players that have gotten to the big 0:07:47.770 --> 0:07:52.180 league level and there is a more complete, there's a 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.920 more of a complete of them as a player. They're 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.600 not just offensive. They're not just defensive. You know, they 0:07:57.620 --> 0:08:00.240 have some game and the defense the last two nights, 0:08:00.740 --> 0:08:02.440 you know, that really stood out to me. 0:08:03.190 --> 0:08:05.650 Mike, it was an interesting start for this Giants lineup 0:08:05.690 --> 0:08:09.070 yesterday with Brady Singer's decision to throw behind Drew Gilbert 0:08:09.170 --> 0:08:11.090 on his first pitch of the game, then comes back, 0:08:11.150 --> 0:08:13.490 bounces one off his Evo shield off his ankle on 0:08:13.510 --> 0:08:15.540 the second pitch of the game. Now, we all know 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.440 that there was a dust-up in Cincinnati earlier this season. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.720 Were you surprised to see some of that bad blood 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.820 still spill over this late in the season? And do 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.880 you think some of that bad blood will continue in 0:08:24.900 --> 0:08:25.720 today's getaway game? 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.670 That was really odd because what happened in Cincinnati was 0:08:31.710 --> 0:08:34.350 a big nothing. There was a couple of guys wolfing. 0:08:35.150 --> 0:08:40.400 And nobody was involved. I mean, I have no idea 0:08:40.420 --> 0:08:41.679 what that guy was thinking about. 0:08:42.340 --> 0:08:44.720 I really don't. And, you know, I mean, he wasn't 0:08:44.780 --> 0:08:45.600 involved in the game. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:51.160 I mean, Drew Gilbert wasn't doing anything disrespectful in Cincinnati. 0:08:51.260 --> 0:08:53.870 So I guess just for him to single out in 0:08:53.929 --> 0:08:57.350 game two, I mean, I don't understand it. And, you know, 0:08:57.770 --> 0:09:00.650 and plus, singers from Florida, those guys are usually pretty mellow. 0:09:01.230 --> 0:09:03.309 If you have somebody who's going to chirp like that 0:09:03.350 --> 0:09:06.829 and throw it, they're usually from North Carolina. But I 0:09:06.870 --> 0:09:07.929 don't know. I didn't understand it. 0:09:08.050 --> 0:09:08.969 Plus, he threw at him twice. 0:09:10.230 --> 0:09:12.030 And then when he hit him, I'm surprised that he 0:09:12.050 --> 0:09:15.080 didn't get tossed. He could have. I mean, in today's game, 0:09:15.130 --> 0:09:18.140 I mean, they have a zero tolerance for throwing at guys. Well, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:23.040 it was freaking obvious he was throwing at them. But, yeah, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:23.960 I thought that was weird. 0:09:25.020 --> 0:09:29.240 Was weird. And Terry Francona manages the Reds. He's old school. Yeah, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:30.459 that's kind of part of Tito's game. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.520 Well, yeah, he is old school, but that to me 0:09:35.620 --> 0:09:38.560 still was bizarre. You know, I mean, if you throw 0:09:38.580 --> 0:09:40.500 behind him by three feet, if you're going to hit 0:09:40.660 --> 0:09:42.700 a guy, you're going to throw behind him. Because the 0:09:42.740 --> 0:09:44.750 guy is naturally going to fall back away from the 0:09:44.780 --> 0:09:47.290 pitch because he thinks it's going to be in, and 0:09:47.309 --> 0:09:50.470 he'll fall into it. And he missed behind, and then 0:09:50.490 --> 0:09:52.710 he goes back down and he hits him in the legs. So, 0:09:52.790 --> 0:09:54.229 I mean, at least he hit him below the belt. 0:09:54.390 --> 0:10:00.550 But still, I mean, it picked off a bunch of 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.340 guys over in the Giants' dugout. And I thought the 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.780 biggest hit of the game, when Singer put on a 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.939 hit batsman, a walk, then another hit batsman, which I 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.680 didn't think was intentional, it got to Drew Cavanaugh, and 0:10:13.700 --> 0:10:15.200 he comes up and he gets a base hit that 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.240 puts in two runs. If they don't get a hit there, 0:10:18.300 --> 0:10:22.300 the momentum goes right into the Reds' dugout. If he 0:10:22.370 --> 0:10:25.250 gives you three guys for free to set the bases 0:10:25.290 --> 0:10:28.350 loaded and you have a no-out situation, you don't score 0:10:28.370 --> 0:10:31.490 anybody there, that momentum goes right into the Reds' dugout. 0:10:31.530 --> 0:10:34.290 So for Cavanaugh to get that hit and cash in 0:10:34.350 --> 0:10:36.110 two times in that first inning and give the Giants 0:10:36.150 --> 0:10:38.010 another lead, I thought that was the biggest hit in 0:10:38.030 --> 0:10:38.310 the game. 0:10:39.550 --> 0:10:40.650 For sure. It was a, it was great. 0:10:40.670 --> 0:10:42.550 In fact, just a little moment on Kavanaugh, three knocks 0:10:42.590 --> 0:10:45.630 last night. And you know, he's hitting two 53 on 0:10:45.650 --> 0:10:46.750 base of three 52. 0:10:46.750 --> 0:10:48.500 There's no power. He has no bombs. 0:10:49.820 --> 0:10:52.360 And his OPS is only six 16, but behind the 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.160 dish and at the plate, I'm just kind of wondering 0:10:55.300 --> 0:10:56.719 the other day we asked you about Pat Bailey. 0:10:56.740 --> 0:10:58.319 You said he's a great backup and he is, he 0:10:58.360 --> 0:10:59.540 won two gold gloves and all that. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.380 I don't know. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.819 Is drew Kavanaugh like good enough to be the giants 0:11:03.860 --> 0:11:06.580 backup catcher in 2027? 0:11:06.780 --> 0:11:08.990 Well, I don't even know if he's a backup. I mean, 0:11:09.010 --> 0:11:11.610 I think if I'm looking at the situation now, it's 0:11:11.670 --> 0:11:15.770 a platoon. Kavanaugh would play against right-handed pitchers, and Zusak 0:11:15.790 --> 0:11:18.390 would play against lefties. I don't know how it's all 0:11:18.429 --> 0:11:20.949 going to unfold right now. We're still learning Kavanaugh's game, 0:11:20.990 --> 0:11:22.360 but I'll tell you one thing we found out about him. 0:11:23.370 --> 0:11:26.929 When you have a situation where you have a starting 0:11:26.970 --> 0:11:29.950 pitcher of the opposing team throw twice at your leadoff error, 0:11:30.610 --> 0:11:33.310 and he hits two guys in the first inning, everybody 0:11:33.370 --> 0:11:39.760 gets an attitude in the dugout. your fighters, they emerge 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.280 because they get a real good focus going. And you 0:11:44.420 --> 0:11:47.859 learned a lot about Kavanaugh when his guy got hit. 0:11:48.820 --> 0:11:51.920 He went right into fight mode. He was hoping there 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.320 was an instant where something would break out and he 0:11:54.340 --> 0:11:55.880 would go out there and do a rat-a-tat on a 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.140 couple of guys. Well, he took it out on Singer 0:11:59.179 --> 0:12:01.679 and the other way. He did it with his bat. 0:12:02.420 --> 0:12:05.380 And I just think that situation when you have an 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.030 opposing hitter opposing pitcher hit one of your guys, everybody 0:12:09.110 --> 0:12:11.969 elevates and everybody gets ticked off. But you find out 0:12:12.010 --> 0:12:14.309 who your fighters are as to how they perform in 0:12:14.330 --> 0:12:16.690 that game. They may not get in a fight, but 0:12:16.710 --> 0:12:18.120 they're going to have a good day with the bat. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.440 And Cavanaugh, in my mind, his stock went up yesterday, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.180 just the night he had after. 0:12:23.020 --> 0:12:24.059 Two guys got drilled. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.339 He had three hits in a walk. He had his 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.570 best night or best day or best game ever in 0:12:29.610 --> 0:12:32.330 his young big league career. So we're still learning about him. 0:12:33.630 --> 0:12:36.069 Mike, last question for me on the two pitchers that 0:12:36.110 --> 0:12:39.309 both left the game early the last couple days. Carson Wisenhunt, 0:12:39.330 --> 0:12:41.710 we got the report that he does have a torn UCL, 0:12:41.990 --> 0:12:44.410 so he'll be heading towards Tommy John surgery. And then yesterday, 0:12:44.510 --> 0:12:47.829 Adrian Hauser leaves the game with an elbow injury as well. Mike, 0:12:47.850 --> 0:12:49.310 we know that this is a part of the game 0:12:49.330 --> 0:12:51.430 for pitchers, but your thoughts on both of those guys 0:12:51.470 --> 0:12:53.429 leaving the game early and how that affects the Giants' 0:12:53.470 --> 0:12:54.390 rotation moving forward? 0:12:55.770 --> 0:12:56.610 It's just horrible. 0:12:56.850 --> 0:13:01.620 I mean, you rarely see two guys go out back-to-back 0:13:01.700 --> 0:13:04.540 and go out early in a game. And I just 0:13:04.580 --> 0:13:06.420 tipped my cap to the bullpen. I mean, they really 0:13:06.500 --> 0:13:10.710 rallied the last two days. But we're waiting for the 0:13:10.809 --> 0:13:15.110 MRI return on Hauser, and hopefully it's not another Tommy 0:13:15.170 --> 0:13:17.470 John that has to be thrown his way. But you 0:13:17.510 --> 0:13:20.670 don't trust, you know, twinges and elbows this late in 0:13:20.690 --> 0:13:24.020 the season. I mean, this is August. And, you know, 0:13:24.059 --> 0:13:27.679 guys have been throwing a long time. And you see 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.540 arms going down, guys breaking down all around the league. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.950 So it is the era of the game. You know, 0:13:35.090 --> 0:13:37.580 when I pitch, you had, you know, guys that had three, 0:13:37.620 --> 0:13:41.679 four pitches. And a lot of them didn't even have change-ups. 0:13:42.260 --> 0:13:44.460 The fact that these guys are now throwing five, six, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.880 seven types of movement, seven different types of pitches, it 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.840 stresses out the arm. And I think they're more subjected 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.050 to Tommy John and arm injuries now more than ever 0:13:55.470 --> 0:13:58.350 in the history of the game simply because they're throwing 0:13:58.550 --> 0:14:04.450 more types of pitches, especially pitches like splits and change-ups, which... 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.200 accelerate the uh the arm speed there those those pitches 0:14:08.340 --> 0:14:10.620 when you throw them as a pitcher uh your arm 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.679 speed is actually faster than that of a fastball and 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.400 uh the negative side of the throwing motion the side 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.260 of your motion that stops your arm after you throw 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.160 it it gets overloaded and you see guys break down 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.360 on the shoulder and the elbow all the time so 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.340 it's just a matter of the way that the game 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.920 has evolved uh it has evolved into where guys are 0:14:29.420 --> 0:14:32.760 are now throwing many more movements, and it's definitely stressing 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.210 out their arms. But to see it back-to-back days is 0:14:35.270 --> 0:14:35.890 really unusual. 0:14:35.950 --> 0:14:37.330 Yeah, really unusual. 0:14:37.370 --> 0:14:39.250 And so all good wishes to Landon Roop today as 0:14:39.270 --> 0:14:40.850 he takes the hill, trying to finish off this sweep, 0:14:40.890 --> 0:14:42.690 give the Giants their first sweep of the season against 0:14:42.730 --> 0:14:45.910 lefty Nick Lodolo of the Reds, former first-round pick back 0:14:46.010 --> 0:14:49.700 in 2019. Mike, last one for me is the guy 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:54.540 who came in to pitch after Hauser went down, Anthony Molina. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.520 Now he was in the Tyler Malley trade. He was 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.420 not a heralded prospect at all. His numbers were not awesome. 0:15:00.060 --> 0:15:01.700 I think Giants fans saw him as maybe. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.010 Like a bulk middle inning guy or at best. He's 24. 0:15:05.010 --> 0:15:05.570 He's young. 0:15:06.030 --> 0:15:07.910 And man, did he give up some hard contact early. 0:15:07.950 --> 0:15:09.530 The Reds were not fooled by him in the first 0:15:09.570 --> 0:15:12.110 couple innings. Great catches all over the place from Drew 0:15:12.130 --> 0:15:15.080 Gilbert to Turner Hill. But anything that you saw from 0:15:15.100 --> 0:15:18.420 this guy that the Giants can take and believe in? 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.020 Well, I mean, he's a little vulnerable that first inning 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.020 or so because, you know, he's putting on the Giants 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.640 uniform for the first time. And you can imagine the 0:15:28.660 --> 0:15:30.620 adrenaline that's running through him. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:31.920 So he's a little geeked up. 0:15:32.780 --> 0:15:35.720 But he was throwing strikes. I mean, to me, that's 0:15:35.740 --> 0:15:39.180 the take. Adam Balls are good fortune, don't get me wrong. 0:15:39.220 --> 0:15:41.020 But there's a lot of guys when they get that 0:15:41.070 --> 0:15:43.770 adrenaline going through their arm, they can't throw strikes or 0:15:43.790 --> 0:15:44.570 they lose pitches. 0:15:45.030 --> 0:15:47.640 He didn't. They got hit hard. They got caught. 0:15:47.750 --> 0:15:49.650 But after the adrenaline kind of wore down, I mean, 0:15:49.670 --> 0:15:52.190 he really settled in. And a nice blend of two 0:15:52.230 --> 0:15:54.830 types of movement with a fastball, good changeup. He was 0:15:54.850 --> 0:15:58.630 throwing all his pitches and all the counts and not afraid. So, 0:15:58.850 --> 0:16:01.050 I mean, there's a guy– you have to have bulk 0:16:01.110 --> 0:16:03.410 inning guys in the pen. You have to. A guy 0:16:03.450 --> 0:16:05.310 who can go through the lineup one time when a 0:16:05.350 --> 0:16:07.570 starter goes out early, as we've seen the last two nights. 0:16:08.310 --> 0:16:12.620 And if there's a situation where a starter goes down 0:16:12.700 --> 0:16:14.550 or warms up and can't go, Well, you have to 0:16:14.590 --> 0:16:17.650 have somebody who can go in there and be comfortable 0:16:17.850 --> 0:16:20.450 in a start where you've been given five minutes notice to. 0:16:21.050 --> 0:16:23.320 So I like what I've seen from this guy. He's 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.060 24 years old. So, you know, he's got some dirt 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.320 under his fingernails. He's been around a little bit. And 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:30.940 it showed last night the way he was able to 0:16:30.980 --> 0:16:33.400 compose himself. So he really made a nice name for 0:16:33.420 --> 0:16:35.120 himself very quickly in last night's game. 0:16:35.370 --> 0:16:37.190 Listen, Giants need bullpen arms, and if this guy can 0:16:37.230 --> 0:16:39.770 join the fray, we'll see over the next month. Last one, 0:16:39.790 --> 0:16:41.800 did you see Pat Murphy last night, the Brewers manager, 0:16:41.860 --> 0:16:44.420 benching this kid Cooper Pratt for not running out of pop-up? 0:16:44.460 --> 0:16:44.940 Did you see that? 0:16:47.180 --> 0:16:49.460 No, I just read about it this morning, and Pratt's 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.800 a shortstop, first-round pick, and we saw him, we were 0:16:51.820 --> 0:16:53.160 impressed with him, and blah, blah, blah. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:53.500 Young. 0:16:55.020 --> 0:16:55.600 Not hustling? 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:57.260 Sit your butt down. 0:16:58.230 --> 0:17:01.210 And guess what? He shouldn't play today. It should be 0:17:01.250 --> 0:17:05.340 a one-and-a-half-game penalty, because there's no... excuse for that and 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.619 I love the fact that he taught this lesson to 0:17:07.660 --> 0:17:10.239 this young player because you know what everybody in that 0:17:10.260 --> 0:17:12.300 clubhouse has picked off that this kid didn't do it 0:17:12.340 --> 0:17:16.740 either and you know you'll get veterans come up to 0:17:16.780 --> 0:17:18.850 a rookie and tell them that's not that's not something 0:17:18.869 --> 0:17:20.890 that we do you need to kick it in another 0:17:20.930 --> 0:17:23.350 gear but it doesn't have the same impact as to 0:17:23.369 --> 0:17:26.230 when a manager sits you down and says or takes 0:17:26.250 --> 0:17:27.970 you out of a game in the middle of a 0:17:28.010 --> 0:17:30.750 game and embarrass you embarrasses you not only in front 0:17:30.790 --> 0:17:32.689 of your teammates but in front of everybody in that 0:17:32.730 --> 0:17:35.700 ballpark So that's a lesson, hopefully, that he. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.580 Learns and we never see from him again. And unfortunately, 0:17:38.660 --> 0:17:39.800 some guys have to learn that way. 0:17:40.310 --> 0:17:43.270 It doesn't always happen to rookies. You see it happen 0:17:43.310 --> 0:17:46.090 with veterans, too. I think any time you see it, 0:17:46.109 --> 0:17:47.570 it should be called and a guy should have to 0:17:47.609 --> 0:17:50.730 come out of the game. There's no tolerance for that 0:17:50.790 --> 0:17:51.210 in my book. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:52.980 Mike, the Pat Murphy quotes are great. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.300 He talks about how he didn't get a bunt down 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.639 earlier in the game, and he should have bunted a strike, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:58.780 and that ticked off Murphy. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.959 And then the pop-up where he didn't run it out. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.840 It's a long quote, but he says, you've got to 0:18:03.859 --> 0:18:05.590 be locked in if you're going to play at this level. 0:18:06.030 --> 0:18:07.429 So hopefully it's a good learning experience. He says, I 0:18:07.470 --> 0:18:08.710 love the kid, and I believe in the kid. 0:18:09.190 --> 0:18:11.250 He said, and he's a great defender, but this is 0:18:11.369 --> 0:18:13.970 not tolerated by anybody, and it sends a message to 0:18:14.030 --> 0:18:14.910 everybody else, too. 0:18:14.970 --> 0:18:15.590