1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the install with Greg co Cell of NFL Films. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Greg gets been you know, there's no actual victories in January, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: but Titans fans are pretty happy about the idea of 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Robert Sala, who will give his introductory press conference here 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: in about four hours from now as a matter of fact, 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: and the marriage of him with Brian Dabele as the 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, which came to fruition in the last couple 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: of days. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: You know what I really like about it, And again, 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: no one knows what's going to happen, but all we 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: have is what we have is they hired veteran coaches 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: who've been around the league. You know, I really like 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: the fact that they hired Dabel, who's been around you know, 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: he's look, his background is really strong. He's been with 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Nick Saban obviously, he was a major factor in helping 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Josh Allen become a really good NFL quarterback. So there's 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: a pedigree there with both coaches. I mean to me, 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: that's what you wanted, you know, I think, and I 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: know that they've also, you know, hired some other coaches, 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: particularly on the offensive side of the ball, other than 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Shay Tierney as the quarterback coach. I'm not necessarily familiar 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: with a lot of the names, but you know, I 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: don't have to be, and and I don't necessarily follow 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: all the on line coaches in the NFL, you know, so, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: but I mean they have veteran coaches, guys who've been 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I think that's important, and I 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: think it's really important for a young quarterback. You know, 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: we know Solid it's going to be his defense, so 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: h and he's very good, very respected. So you know, 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: again you don't know what's going to happen. Obviously there's 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: personnel involved. You need players, and we'll see what happens 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: with free agency in the draft. It should be kind 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: of a fun time with both of those things this 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: year for the for the Titans, and you know, of 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: course we'll be doing that again, which will be wonderful. 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, I I think it's I think 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: everything is pointing in the right direction, you know, as 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: we speak today, and that's all we have. 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and and you know we'll we'll learn more 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: from Solid today. Obviously he won't give us the entire plan, 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: no press conference today, but just to talk about some 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: philosophical things the way that he'd like this thing to 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: look and some thousand foot view topics that we that 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: were looking forward to talking to him about later this afternoon. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: So let's let's get into day Ball's offense a little bit, 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: because this guy's been around for a long time. Four 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: different offensive coordinator stops greg in the NFL with four 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: different franchises, his longest stint, of course, with Buffalo before 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: he became the head coach of the New York Giants, 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: where he called some plays sometimes and then other times 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: it was Mike Kafka. Obviously, they're working with him on 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. That we know that 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: they liked cam Ward because they tried to trade up 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: to get cam Ward last year, as Adam Schefter reported, 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: And so there is at least some groundwork that has 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: been done on the Titans quarterback prior to him accepting 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: this job. What kind of stands out about the way 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: that Brian day Ball wants to operate understanding that it 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: won't be exactly the same scheme every dight. 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a couple of things that I 61 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: think stand out, you know again, and some of this 62 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: could change based on cam Woard. You know, you know, 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: you dance with the girl who brung you, as it were. 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: I mean, cam Ward is a different quarterback, let's say, 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: than some of the quarterbacks that Brian Dable has been with. 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 2: I think that that one thing that does stand out 67 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: is he's not necessarily a big shift motion guy. And 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, in some ways, I don't think that's a 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: bad idea with a young quarterback because look, I know 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people talk about, hey, you can't run 71 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: an offense in today's NFL unless you're doing a lot 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: of pre snap movement. There's obviously many different philosophies on that. 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong on that, you know. I 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: think sometimes with a young quarterback, you want him to 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: get to the line of scrimmage. You want things to 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: be somewhat static so he can see the defense. And 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: one thing that I think is important and does stand 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: out is Dable does get his quarterback to the line 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: of scrimmage pretty quickly. It's not one of those where 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: they're at the line of scrimmage and there's five seconds 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: left on the play clock. So this way, if you 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: don't do a lot of pre snab movement your quarterback 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: and get a feel for the defense, see what it 84 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: is have a sense. I don't know if they'll if 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: cam Ward will be the one that might make adjustments, 86 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: or if we will be the offensive center. Who if 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: it's Cushion Berry, I think he's still under contract, is 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: he not? Based on his deal he is. 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: It's a big cap hit this year, so it'll be 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: curious to see what they end up doing. But for 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: right now, Lloyd Kushien Berry is here. 92 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say, let's say it's a veteran center. 93 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Let's say you know, they might want the center to 94 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: be the one that deals with you know, the protections 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: and all that. You know, because when you learn a 96 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: new offense, and he'll be learning a new offense cam Ward, 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: obviously you don't want to overload the quarterback mentally because 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: then he's thinking through the game way too much. And 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: kim Ward strikes me as a part of his game 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: is built on instinct and feel, and having had a 101 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: chance to talk with him, he's a very sharp guy 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: that I don't want people to think I'm saying he 103 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: can't handle it, but it's about maximizing what he can do, 104 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: you know, because he's learning a new offense and the 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: bottom line is when you learn a new offense. Most 106 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: coaches tell you it's a two to three year process, 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: and again that doesn't mean you can't function in year one, 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: but then you have to determine the best way for 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: him to function at the highest level, and you don't 110 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: want to overload him with too many things. So I 111 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: think the fact that Brian Dable in his background has 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: not been big with shifts and motions, that's probably going 113 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: to be the case. The other thing that kind of 114 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: stands out, which would be totally different from this year 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: is Brian Dabele is much more of a two by 116 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: two set guy as opposed to a three by one 117 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: set guy, whereas this year the Titans were among the 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: highest percentage in the league and lining up in three 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: by one sets, And I think he'll do a lot 120 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: more of two by two sets. That gives you much 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: more of an opportunity to do mirrored route concepts, which 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: also define the picture better for the quarterback. So I 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: think that you know, there's a number of things that seemingly, 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, as we just speak about it now, you 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: know that would help cam Ward sort of get acclimated 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: to the fact that everything's going to be brand new. 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to your point about the personnel groupings that 128 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: Brian da Ball favors at least, and again, just looking 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: at last year's Giants offense, Greg on some of the 130 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: numbers and where his tendencies were, understanding that Jackson, Dard 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: and cam Ward are not the same kind of player. 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: They were in eleven personnel sixty percent of the time, 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: which was just below league average. It ended up seventeenth 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: in terms of personnel grouping a lot more twelve personnel, 135 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot of shotgun and a lot of RPO RPO. 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: That's the other thing I wanted to mention. He's a 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: big RPO guy, Dable. And I think again that's another 138 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: thing that's probably a good thing, you know, because it's 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: those are not difficult reads. You're essentially reading one guy 140 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: to decide what you do with the football as the quarterback, 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: and so I think the RPO game is a significant 142 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: part of what Dable does. 143 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember talking with you, Greg when you 144 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: were here in training camp about cam Ward's cam towards 145 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: r po uh background for lack of a better term, 146 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: because they did do that with him at Miami. When 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: they got to Tennessee, it did not seem like it 148 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: was something that they They tried it a little bit 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: in training camp. Once they got into the regular season, 150 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: though it didn't really seem to manifest that way well. 151 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: And that you know, that's the function of coaches. I mean, 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, some coaches are not big RPO guys. And 153 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: obviously that coaching staff did not believe in in r 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: pos as a foundation of an offense. Briandabele does. And 155 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: I think that's that'll be helpful, you know, I think 156 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: the r PO game will be you know, because it's 157 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: a good way. Like I said, number one, it's an 158 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: easy read. You're basically reading one guy. What do you know? 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: You read that one guy, it's a second level player. 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: Do you hand it off? Do you know? Do you 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: throw it? And and it's a good way to sustain 162 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: offense because if you feel that the run game is 163 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: effective based on on how that player reacts, ideally you 164 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: gain four or five yards if you feel that you 165 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: throw it. You know it's it's normally and a quick 166 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: breaker doesn't have to be, but normally it is. And 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: you can end up with you know, seven eight yards 168 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: and maybe he breaks a tackle and you get fifteen yards, 169 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: So I mean, it's a good way to sustain offense. 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: The other thing, and this may not necessarily be a 171 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: tactical question, Greg, so maybe it's not something that we 172 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: can answer. But I'm just curious. Given day Ball's recent history, 173 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: right the quarterbacks that he's worked with, whether it be 174 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Alan Dart, Daniel Jones, even Jalen Hurts at Alabama, they 175 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: have a little bit more instinctual mobility, we'll call it 176 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: to their game than somebody like cam Ward does. I 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: don't know if Dave Ball is going to try and 178 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: do some of those things with cam Ward. I don't 179 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: know how much of that was just the players, you know, 180 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: leaning on what was a part of their game. In 181 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: the case of Alan and Dart, we know that mobility 182 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know, running the football is a big part 183 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: of who they were in college prior to them even 184 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: getting to the NFL. So that's just another thing that 185 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm curious about this year. 186 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: I know that the previous coaching staff did feel that 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: they wanted cam to run a little more. Yes, you 188 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: know that. Now, again, that doesn't mean you run, you know. Look, 189 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: I think someone like Dart rant too much. That's my 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: personal opinion. Maybe the Giants. I would assume they probably 191 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: agreed because he missed games because of that. So and 192 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: I thought there were times later in the season that 193 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: cam did leave the pocket appropriately, you know, to run 194 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: for some first downs. So and I think in today's 195 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: NFL that that has become an increasingly meaningful part. It 196 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: doesn't mean a quarterback has to have fifteen carries. I mean, 197 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: we just saw in the AFC Championship game what turned 198 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: out to be a really significant part of that game. 199 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: A critical feature for the Patriots was Jack was Drake 200 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: may you know with those runs because they didn't really 201 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: account for him, which you know is somewhat surprising. We'll 202 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: see what, you know, Mike McDonald does in the Super Bowl, 203 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: because they're a team that hasn't used the spy very much. 204 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: But that doesn't there are many ways to account for 205 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: a quarterback that can break the pocket, not just a spy. 206 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: But I think that the cam Ward out, you know, 207 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: because cam Ward has mobility. Is he an explosive athlete, No, 208 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: but he's he certainly is a functional athlete who can 209 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: run for first downs. So it wouldn't surprise me if 210 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: if encourage might not be the right word, but let 211 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: him know that, hey, that's that's okay, you can do that. 212 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, to your point, bau Hart agree, 213 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: was certainly encouraging him to do that. 214 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: We talked about in several different instances. 215 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you did it well, and I know you 216 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: sat in on a variety of different meetings with them 217 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: last year during your visits here. The idea that they 218 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: would show him tape cutups of different players, specifically Patrick Mahomes, 219 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: and where he would tactically or strategically right use his 220 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: legs to extend drives. 221 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: And that's the way you want to do it, you know, 222 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: you know, you know, no one coaches a quarterback to say, 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: drop back, hit your back foot and just take off. 224 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: No one coaches a quarterback to do that. But hey, 225 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: look there are times the defense wins and your quarterback 226 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: has to save you in those times. And you know, look, 227 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: there's the quarterback position. You know, I love talking about it, 228 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: and we're not going to get in to a whole 229 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: discussion of the quarterback position, but there are times that 230 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: the defense does win, and if you have the ability 231 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: then to save your offense with your legs, you'd love 232 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: to be in a position that your quarterback can do that. 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: I did not ask you about this before we started taping, Greg, 234 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: So if you don't have an answer for it, that's 235 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: just fine, or I'm not able to answer it right now. 236 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: But some additional hirings that were made by the Titans yesterday. 237 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Shay Tierney is going to coach quarterbacks. He's been with 238 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Brian da Ball for some time. Carmen Brisillo, I believe, 239 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: is how I pronounce the name of the offensive line coach. 240 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: He is also going to join Brian day ball staff 241 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: after two years in New York with him prior to 242 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: being with the Raiders and the Patriots before that. I 243 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: know you were at O line Masterminds. I don't know 244 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: if you've had conversations welcome. 245 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: But didn't They just hired Greg Lewis as the wide 246 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: receivers coach. 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: They did also hire Greg Lewis from the Ravens. 248 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: Him I I'm familiar with, and he's considered a really 249 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: good wide receivers coach. You know, really he coaches hard 250 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, and I 251 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: think that's a real He's been around, He's been with 252 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: some good coaches in his career. I think that's that 253 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: that to me was a good higher I don't know 254 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: the on line coach at all, so just being honest 255 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: with you, I don't know, it's like, hey comment on him. 256 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: But Greg Lewis, that that I thought was a good hire, 257 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: particularly for young wide receivers, because young wide receivers, I think, 258 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: you know, when they get to the league and they 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: just realize how much more physical it is and the 260 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: fact that you've got a block and that's important, you know, 261 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: and that you know, and you can teach receivers how 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: to block. Okay, that's the thing, you know. I don't 263 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: think I don't think anybody drafts receivers in the top 264 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: fifty or sixty because of the way they block. But 265 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: you can teach guys how to block and and and 266 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: then it becomes a mentality. And I think Greg Lewis 267 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: has that mentality, and I think that's really important. 268 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Well because that's the that's the kind of second level 269 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: discussion for us, because obviously we talk about these things. 270 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: You've said at many many times correctly, so all of 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: these things need to be done in service of health. 272 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Be and cam Ward succeed as the number one over 273 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: m Yeah, but they do also have so many other 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: young offensive players in particularly those three skill guys. The 275 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Titans fans are also wondering, Okay, how is this going 276 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: to help Elakia man or take another step Chim ray 277 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: d k potentially become a more well rounded player. Guys 278 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: like Gunner helm things that we don't Again, we don't 279 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: even have the full staff yet, but this is kind 280 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: of where the next step would be. 281 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: And Iom Manner is a big dude. I mean, you know, 282 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: you want to be in a situation in your run 283 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: game where you know you can line him up, maybe 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: in a reduced split, and he's going to have to 285 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: block a filling safety and you know, he's got a 286 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: block them. He doesn't have to put him on his back, 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: but he's got to block them, you know. I mean, 288 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: you watch teams like the Seahawks and the Rams. You know, 289 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: the way they run the ball, and they are receivers. 290 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: They block forty nine ers, they block, you know, and 291 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: you can teach that. I remember speaking with a wide 292 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: receivers coach who came to watch film with me a 293 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and we were actually talking about 294 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: evaluating wide receivers and he said to me, look but 295 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: I evaluated wide receivers. I just watch their targets. But 296 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: he's because you can teach them had a block, you know. Now, 297 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: again there's a mentality there. You certainly don't want to 298 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: drift a wide receiver who you feel has no physical 299 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: component to his game whatsoever, you know, but you can 300 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: teach guys how to do that. 301 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: You know. 302 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: They don't have to pancake guys. 303 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: No, they And this is more, you know, a cliche, 304 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: but it also holds true. Like the Titans are trying 305 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: to find an offensive identity and they were getting closer 306 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: to that towards the end of last season. But to 307 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of re establish themselves as a physical team that 308 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: wants to take pressure off the quarterback, that wants to 309 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: run the football kind of more central to who that 310 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: franchise has been just on their DNA. I know that's 311 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: obviously not how coaches approach it. But still the other thing. 312 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: That's interesting about Davis. I think the year was twenty 313 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: twenty two when they had two backs, you know, because 314 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: I think they had Barkleay then, and I think it 315 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: was Matt Rida if memory serves me correctly, And I 316 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: thought he did some really good things out of what 317 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: we call pony the pony package where you have two 318 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: half backs on the field, and if you can do that, 319 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: and again I don't know what the Titans playing. You know, again, 320 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: we're way off you know, free agency in the draft 321 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: as far as you know what they're looking at. So 322 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say, but I mean, you know, 323 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: if you can can do that and you can detach 324 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: one back, I mean, look, there's not one hundred Jon 325 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Robinson's obviously, but the Falcons had such good success when 326 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: they were able to play both al Zier and Robinson 327 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: because twenty percent of robinson snaps came in detached from 328 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: the formation. But as I said, there's not one hundred 329 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: of those guys, but still there are guys like that, 330 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: and I know that they had good success doing that, 331 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: and I think the year was twenty twenty two, so 332 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see, you know, what they do 333 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: in free agency in the draft. As far as the 334 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: running back position. 335 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Well, well you will table that discussion as we get 336 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: further into the offseason, and obviously we'll talk about the 337 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl next week, Greg, but just an any kind 338 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: of thoughts that you'd like to share with the audience 339 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: on the two conference championship games. You know what happened 340 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: between Denver and New England and how the weather impacted that. 341 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how much how much you can do. 342 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a really big fan in tape study 343 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: of the Patriot defense, and we'll talk more about it 344 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: next week, you know, the specifics of it. But they 345 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: just don't have household names, so people probably don't think 346 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: about them very much. Maybe their best individual players Christian 347 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: Gonzalez the corner, although Milton Williams has really become a 348 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: terrific player, but they do. They are really good stunting. 349 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 2: You know, we'll get into that more. That NFC Championship 350 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: game was just so much fun to watch because it 351 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: was just really high level quarterback play by both guys. 352 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know people say, gee, I 353 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: feel good for Sam Donald, like, you know, like he's 354 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: a three year old, you know. I mean, look, Sam Donald, 355 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: who's been in the league. You know, he's had success, 356 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm sure there's still going to be 357 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: people who are waiting all in the Super Bowl will 358 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: throw three picks, you know, he might who knows that 359 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: he's playing against a really good defense. You never know 360 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: how the game plays out. But I mean, you know, 361 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: the guy's played really well. I mean, he played at 362 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: a really high level against the Rams. That's just the 363 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: reality of life. And he's played well this year. So, uh, 364 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: you know that game I really enjoyed watching, both on 365 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: TV and on tape. And the Seahawks, I'm telling you 366 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: their defense, nick him and Worry. I spoke to a 367 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: coach this week who who said point blank, he said, 368 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: Emon Warry is a better player than Kyle Hamilton. And 369 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, again, I'm sure there's people have different opinions 370 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: on that, but this was a coach who's who's played, 371 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, both those defenses, the Ravens and the Seahawks, 372 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: And I was really you know, I was surprised because 373 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: I watched tape and m and Warry is a very 374 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: impactful player. 375 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 376 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: No, it's been cool to see what he's done in 377 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: his rookie season and for a guy like that to 378 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: land with a coach like Mike McDonald, who's opposite worked 379 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: with Kyle Hamilton before a bit of a match made 380 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: and having situations. So we'll talk tactics next week ahead 381 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. I assume you're going to Santa 382 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Claara this year. 383 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 2: Greg, I I'm pling out on Tuesday, weather permitting. On 384 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: the East coast, we're in a little bit of a 385 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: deep I guess you've had some weather too, buddy. 386 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: I've been I've been encased in ice for four days. 387 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: We're just now starting to break out. But I saw 388 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: I saw the snow snow accumulation in the northeast, and 389 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like any walking apart. 390 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: And well, it's not just that, you know, we've gotten 391 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: snow before, but very often we get snow here and 392 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, the next day it's forty five degrees. We 393 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: we're not going to get above zero, not zero, above 394 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: freezing for like twenty straight days, which is the last 395 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: time that happened was like two thousand and four. So 396 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: nothing's builted. It's just, you know, it's it's it's cold. Hey, 397 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: like you could use it. 398 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: Sounds like you could use a trip to California then, 399 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: So I hope you get defrosted in time to make. 400 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: The flight out there. 401 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: You're going to be out there. 402 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: I may fly out there for a couple of days. 403 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm still looking. I'm still I'm not doing a radio 404 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: row thing. I leave that to three. 405 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: Hil will be out there, yeah yeah. 406 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if if I make my way out there 407 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: for some meetings, I will. 408 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: You will be the first to know my friend in 409 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: me up. 410 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting there Tuesday, weather permitting. 411 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, Greg, I hope you stay warm and then all 412 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: the all the people impacted in the Northeast or it 413 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: went okay up there, And looking forward to talking about 414 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl with you next week, my guy. 415 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Thanks, Buck, appreciate it.