WEBVTT - The Final Debate of the Primary Season

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<v Speaker 1>if I went on what we were going to start

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<v Speaker 1>with just based on the emails, and sometimes we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we would be spending the entire first hour making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that the State of California has ruled

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<v Speaker 1>that cars for Kids commercials are illegal because they are

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<v Speaker 1>flagrant false advertising. And we will get to that, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a governor's race to cover, and last

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<v Speaker 1>night was the final debate between the airing of the grievances. Candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>including on the right Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco and

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<v Speaker 1>on the left side, Antonio via ra Gosa, Kati Porter,

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Besserah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is a profile piece.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a gotcha piece, right Tom Steyer.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can literally see it, smell it, and feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matt Mahon. I don't have a drop for Matt Mahon.

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<v Speaker 1>It once again was not a very productive debate. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we are at a point where they did way

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<v Speaker 1>too many of these things. It's almost like a Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Steyer commercial. Once you've seen an enough of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't stand it anymore. But it is the last

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for the ninety five percent of Californians that have

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<v Speaker 1>not voted yet. Let's hear what these candidates have to

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<v Speaker 1>say on the issues affecting us, like affordability, housing and homelessness,

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<v Speaker 1>the climate, and education. Let's start with affordability. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Katie's going to start us off.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots, Miss Porter.

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<v Speaker 6>For many, like Grace, the California dream can feel completely

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<v Speaker 6>out of reach. How will you lower costs across the state?

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<v Speaker 6>You have one minute.

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<v Speaker 5>I have four concrete policies to lower costs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, first thing, I will say it is the

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<v Speaker 1>first question, but she is answering the question that gets

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<v Speaker 1>you a point.

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<v Speaker 5>I have four concrete policies to lower costs. The first

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<v Speaker 5>is less expensive housing. That takes the biggest bite.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, even though we have not hit our

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<v Speaker 1>construction goals, there has been building. There has been nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a million houses built in the last ten years. There's

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<v Speaker 1>construction going on everywhere. When exactly do we hit this

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<v Speaker 1>magical milestone where the price of these homes starts coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know when that's going to happen. We

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<v Speaker 1>have population decline as well. In the County of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>We lost fifty thousand people in the last year. So

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<v Speaker 1>at what point do we keep building and population goes

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<v Speaker 1>down that the price of homes goes down and for

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<v Speaker 1>certain homeowners do you even want that?

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<v Speaker 5>That takes the biggest bite out of most people's paychecks.

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<v Speaker 5>So it has to be our governor's top priority. If

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<v Speaker 5>we build faster, the same speed as our competitor states,

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<v Speaker 5>then housing costs here will be ten to twenty percent cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Construction costs will be cheaper, but will that translate into

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<v Speaker 1>to lower purchase prices lower mortgages.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It depends on what we're building.

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<v Speaker 5>Second, if housing isn't your biggest expense, it might be

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<v Speaker 5>because you have young children. Free childcare will make our

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<v Speaker 5>entire economy grow. It's not just something we do for kids,

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<v Speaker 5>it's something we do for everyone to help our economy boom.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I listen to way too many

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<v Speaker 1>interviews from these candidates, and one thing that I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know is that part of the reason she likes

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of everybody gets childcare is apparently that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they do in Irvine. For Irvine schools. All the teachers

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<v Speaker 1>at Irvine schools get free childcare. They've got like a

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated room where you can dump your kids while you

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<v Speaker 1>teach somebody else's kids.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what seems to be working for Irvine.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I got to imagine that the cost of putting

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<v Speaker 1>your kids in a daycare is prohitively expensive, to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where it almost doesn't make sense to even have

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<v Speaker 1>that second job to have to pay for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we're all paying for it, how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>The state of California is already spending more than it's

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<v Speaker 1>ever spent, and we are always in some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a budget deficit. There's not enough money for everything. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you pay for a program like this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you can't pay for a program like this.

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico has unveiled a childcare for all plan. And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do to make sure that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going through the same thing we're going through with medical

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<v Speaker 1>and hospice fraud. How do you make sure that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not doling out money to non exist in daycares? A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions there, but I'm not totally against the

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<v Speaker 1>policy proposal.

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<v Speaker 5>Third free tuition at our state universities. This is something

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<v Speaker 5>California used to have. It's putting money right back in

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<v Speaker 5>the pocket of young families that we want to stay

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<v Speaker 5>here in our state.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but if you're the admissions director at the UC's

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<v Speaker 1>and the CSUS, and you know, all the homegrown California

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<v Speaker 1>kids get to go for free, but all the imports

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<v Speaker 1>from China you can charge thousands and thousands of dollars for.

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<v Speaker 3>Which ones are you gonna want?

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<v Speaker 1>And last, again, I'm not totally opposed to that idea either,

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<v Speaker 1>but the question is how you pay for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's not going to get it into this, but what

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<v Speaker 1>she has talked about is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to do is change the corporate tax rate

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<v Speaker 1>for the state of California to be a progressive tax rate,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you're a smaller business, it would be under

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<v Speaker 1>the eight point seven percent it is. If you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger business that makes a lot of money, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be higher. Will that work, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anybody is ready for more taxes. That being said,

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<v Speaker 1>lowering the corporate tax rate for the smaller businesses maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that gets you some import.

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<v Speaker 5>And last an idea that I took from Republican Steve Hilton,

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<v Speaker 5>because I'll take good ideas even if they come from

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<v Speaker 5>that guy, is eliminating California state income taxes on those

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<v Speaker 5>earning less than one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that plan from Hilton, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that plan from Katie Porter. It sounds good, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into another situation where if you're making ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand dollars a year, you're actually making way more

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<v Speaker 1>than somebody making one hundred and five thousand dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody should have some skin in the game here

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of California. But it does sound really attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first hundred grand tax freew Does that mean that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if I make one hundred and ten, I'm only getting

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<v Speaker 1>charged for ten? Or am I paying for everybody else?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, miss Porter, mister Stier, the cost of tariffs

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<v Speaker 6>are hitting Californians. At the kitchen table, as governor, what

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<v Speaker 6>would you do to offset the impact of federal tariffs?

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<v Speaker 6>You have one minute.

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<v Speaker 4>So as I said, the biggest problem in California is affordability.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're not answering the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if the is it necessarily something that's the topic

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to discuss. For me, a person who has

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<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of these debates, because everyone likes to

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<v Speaker 1>go to their stump speech, the one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>do look for is who is directly answering questions and

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<v Speaker 1>who is going back to the talking points.

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<v Speaker 4>So as I said, the biggest problem in California is affordability,

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<v Speaker 4>and it goes to every part of this economy. It

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<v Speaker 4>goes starting with housing, it goes directly to healthcare, it

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<v Speaker 4>goes to the cost of gasoline at the pump, the

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<v Speaker 4>electricity that you pay in your house, And it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like he's running out the clock with a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of platitudes. What are you going to do if

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<v Speaker 1>you are wasting your sixty seconds telling us that it's

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to live here, We already know it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it very much goes to food. And in every

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<v Speaker 4>one of those there is a special interest that is

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<v Speaker 4>killing it by driving up costs for Californians. And in

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<v Speaker 4>every one of those, we're not going to get an

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<v Speaker 4>answer unless we make structural change and we take on

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<v Speaker 4>those special interests. And I am the person on this

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<v Speaker 4>stage in every one of those areas who is taking

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<v Speaker 4>them on. I am the person who will tax the

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<v Speaker 4>billionaires like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody has a god complex. And once again it goes

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<v Speaker 1>to my long running theory that there is no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as a normal billionaire. When you make that much money,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We're at a big ass crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Show me the normal billionaire, anybody, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And the big corporations, so we can afford to make

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<v Speaker 4>the changes, so we can pay for healthcare, so we

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<v Speaker 4>can pay for great education. We need structural changes we

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<v Speaker 4>need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We're spending twenty eight thousand dollars a year on the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to spend more.

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<v Speaker 4>We need structural changes. We need to break the monopolies

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<v Speaker 4>and get lower costs across the board for Californians.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank Tom Steyer drives me crazy. But the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do like about his campaign, even though I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it actually happening, I'm not against breaking up PG

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<v Speaker 1>and E and so cal Edison and SGG and E.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not against breaking up the private utility monopolies that

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<v Speaker 1>our investor owned that get a guaranteed rate of return.

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<v Speaker 1>That just killed a bill in the Assembly that would

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<v Speaker 1>have allowed us to audit what they're actually spending all

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<v Speaker 1>of that wildfire resilience money on that, in tune, gives

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<v Speaker 1>them the cause to have the CPUC raise their rates

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the only.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing, thank you, mister mister Mahon.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget one of the things that Tom Steyer

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<v Speaker 1>says is the way we're going to pay for all

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<v Speaker 1>my plans is by gutting Prop thirteen. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to call a special election on day one to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens then, mister Stier, if that doesn't pass.

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<v Speaker 6>As miss Porter stated, childcare costs have risen dramatically around

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<v Speaker 6>the state, and many Californians pay more for childcare than

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<v Speaker 6>they do for housing. What steps would you take as

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<v Speaker 6>governor to lower childcare costs?

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<v Speaker 8>You have one minute, Thanks go to. The answer is

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<v Speaker 8>to lower costs across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting with Okay, so not really answered. The question was

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about childcare. But we're going to go to our

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<v Speaker 1>typical diatribe on how everything else is expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, mayheen, let's see what you got.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks go to. The answer is to lower costs across

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<v Speaker 8>the board, starting with the issues we have the most

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<v Speaker 8>control over. I've called for suspending the gas tax and reforming.

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<v Speaker 1>It so that emil Okay, there's something that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>different there, though. If you're talking about how expensive it

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<v Speaker 1>is to keep your kids in daycare, and for some

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<v Speaker 1>of these daycares it is as much as tuition. To

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<v Speaker 1>call it, that is a little different than wiping off

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<v Speaker 1>sixty cents a gallon on the gasoline.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a little difference.

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<v Speaker 8>Ev owners pay their fair share.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he wants me to pay more. I already pay

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<v Speaker 1>more in car registration fees.

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<v Speaker 8>From maintaining our roads in San Jose. We've removed at

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<v Speaker 8>one time fees that make housing more expensive than it

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<v Speaker 8>should be in reform permitting, which has gotten thousands of

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<v Speaker 8>homes under construction. So the answer is to put more

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<v Speaker 8>money in people's pockets by bringing down costs. Tom Stier's

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<v Speaker 8>structural change sounds to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayheon has been kind of floundering in the between five

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<v Speaker 1>to eight percent, so he will be the role of

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<v Speaker 1>attack dog number one. Every single answer for Mayheon, he

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<v Speaker 1>will have to go after another candidate because well, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe, then people will pay attention to the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of San Jose.

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<v Speaker 8>Tom Stier's structural change sounds to me more like socialism.

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<v Speaker 8>His plans literally would double the size of state government.

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<v Speaker 8>That's not going to drive affordability. Steve Milton is touting

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<v Speaker 8>his Donald Trump endorsements. You've got tariffs and wars driving

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<v Speaker 8>up costs. Nobody's talking about how they're going to pay

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<v Speaker 8>for anything. Let's bring down costs by building housing, making

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<v Speaker 8>energy more.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, to go back to the question that I

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<v Speaker 1>ask when Katie Porter was giving this answer at what

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<v Speaker 1>point have we built enough housing that the cost for

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<v Speaker 1>all of it comes down.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know when we get to.

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<v Speaker 8>That point making energy more.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like there are no homes for

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<v Speaker 1>sale right now and there are no homes for rent

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Just you know, pull up whatever you use

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<v Speaker 1>to search for houses when you're looking to move out

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<v Speaker 1>of your neighborhood, and let's just look at Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>County homes on Zillow, and let's see how many homes

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<v Speaker 1>are for sale in the county. Well, I think I first,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to type in last Angeles correctly, los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>CA homes all right, in the city of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>there are ten thousand homes for sale right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of them say new, which either means

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<v Speaker 1>they're newly on the market or they're new construction.

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<v Speaker 8>Making energy more abundant, reforming the gas tax, pulling down

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<v Speaker 8>the unnecessary costs that we've imposed through failed policies, that's

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<v Speaker 8>the fundamental answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Good mister Styer, you have thirty seconds and I will

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<v Speaker 6>come to you, mister helpman.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me say, if he thinks that the oil

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<v Speaker 4>companies are the good guys, that's news to me. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been fighting the oil companies and they are taking advantage

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<v Speaker 4>and ripping us off at the pump.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like I've heard that before. He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom's act from two years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sick and tired of being screwed.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom made a whole big deal about the oil

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<v Speaker 1>companies ripping us off. He held two different special sessions

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<v Speaker 1>to hold the oil companies accountable.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know why we're so damned sheepish.

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<v Speaker 1>And he, through those special sessions, created another bureaucracy, another

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<v Speaker 1>commission that's just supposed to look at the cost of oil,

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<v Speaker 1>in the cost of gasoline, and that commission did not

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<v Speaker 1>find that the oil companies were ripping us off. They

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<v Speaker 1>saw the cost of our regulations, the gas tax, but

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<v Speaker 1>also capin invest formerly known as cap and trade, and

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental regulations, the having to use ethanol, the low

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<v Speaker 1>carbon fuel standard, all of these different things. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they did not find was a massive amount of just

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<v Speaker 1>price gouging that would lead to now what Tom Steyer

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<v Speaker 1>is calling for, which is a windfall profits tax sounds great,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've already seen this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>As a result of this war in Iran, and that

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<v Speaker 4>it's a buck fifty a gallon that they are costs

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<v Speaker 4>even go off a penny if you think the electric.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Gavin Newsom yesterday at his May Revise presser,

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<v Speaker 1>he starts talking about gas prices and with a straight face,

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom says, well, you need to understand is gas

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<v Speaker 1>prices have actually gone up faster in other states than

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<v Speaker 1>they have in California, and that very well may be true,

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<v Speaker 1>but ours were already higher. We are hitting seven dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a gas for premium penny.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think the electricity of the electric monopolies are

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<v Speaker 4>doing us a favor and we should be nice to him,

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<v Speaker 4>let me say this, they're charging us twice as much

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<v Speaker 4>as everybody else in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are that and some of that could be PG

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<v Speaker 1>and he ripping us off, and some of it could

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<v Speaker 1>also be our regulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the people who I'm going to be taking on,

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<v Speaker 4>the people who are using their market power to rip

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<v Speaker 4>off Californians and make our costs go through the roof.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, mister Syrah, Mister Hilton, you have thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many people's electric bills. Tom Steyer could

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<v Speaker 1>have paid with the one hundred and seventy million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>he spent on this campaign, By the way, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a way better use of his money, Like instead

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<v Speaker 1>of buying NonStop ads over and over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you just you know, pay for someone's outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>electric bill, pay for someone's outstanding you know, be the

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<v Speaker 1>philanthropist you claim that you are. But no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, it's all about an ego trip and the

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<v Speaker 1>god complex that is Tom Steyer. He alone can fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>In those sneaks, we're to big ass crisis. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>getting started here. It's about to get ugly because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as Besarah talks, it's the time to pile on

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<v Speaker 1>the new front runner. We'll get into all that as

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<v Speaker 1>we cover the last debate of the twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>primary season. For all these candidates for governor, you might

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<v Speaker 1>never hear from some of these voices. Again, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you, Antonio Vira Goosa. If you want to comment

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<v Speaker 1>on last night's debate, did you watch this thing? I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to out laos meal prepping my Peruvian chicken thighs

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<v Speaker 1>and I was regretting listening to every second of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was so glad it's the last one. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred two two two five two two two one eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred two two two five two two two. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a Kirk in Buena Park Kirk.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, Hello, Randie. Yeah, I just called it because something

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<v Speaker 7>that's bothered me. Yeah. I'm one of the lucky ones.

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<v Speaker 7>I was born and raised in southern California. Well, well

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<v Speaker 7>people have they never talk about it. Don't have to

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<v Speaker 7>realize not everybody gets to live at the beach. I

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<v Speaker 7>would love to live on the shoreline of Big Bear Lake.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't afford it. There isn't really any available. And

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<v Speaker 7>as far as affordable housing with the government, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 7>they haven't come up with this notion. Remember with the

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<v Speaker 7>westward expansion, you know, the uh whatever destiny. Whenever they

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<v Speaker 7>built a railroad, town sprouted up along the railroad line.

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<v Speaker 7>Start building out by the high speed rail. Businesses will follow,

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<v Speaker 7>Industry will develop because that's a lot of vacant land

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<v Speaker 7>out there. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It said something that Steve Hilton talks about only six

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the state of California is developed. Only six percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a massive state, and whenever you drive up

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<v Speaker 1>the five freeway, you sure see a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>nothing here between Button Willow and San Mateo.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean that's the thing is, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not everybody gets to live at the beach. I

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<v Speaker 7>understand you're tired of being up to your hips and snow.

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<v Speaker 7>If you live in Minnesota, you want to go where

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<v Speaker 7>it's warm. Well, there's a certain saturation point, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think we've reached it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for the call, Kirk aparitiate it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Kathy and Coasta Mesa. Kathy, Hello, Hi.

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<v Speaker 10>I wanted to comment that it would have been nice

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<v Speaker 10>for somebody to ask these candidates how they feel or

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<v Speaker 10>do they support the meth Head Teeth Project, future fraud,

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<v Speaker 10>and you know, maybe you follow up questions that are

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<v Speaker 10>always telling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's one of the things when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of another one of these debates with seven candidates

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage, it's sixty seconds for every question and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone attacks Besarah. We only got to like four

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<v Speaker 1>or five different topics, and there's so many more important things.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for the call. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you if you're a look, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're really curious about who you want to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel like you haven't learned enough from these candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>the long form interviews really do such a much better job.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll give a perfect shout out. Ashley Zavala on

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<v Speaker 1>KCRA three has interviewed every single one of these candidates

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<v Speaker 1>for a half hour, like ten minutes of it goes

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<v Speaker 1>on her show on California Politics three sixty, which airs

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<v Speaker 1>on kra KTVU and five eleven but on the YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>channel for KCRA. She has a thirty minute long form

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<v Speaker 1>interview with every single candidate, asking very relevant questions about

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of different things. With that, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the debate that aired on KPIX last night.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, mister Styra, mister Hilton, you have thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear what Hilton has to say about affordability, but

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<v Speaker 1>they forgot to turn his mic on.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>I love the way Matt talks about how he's going

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<v Speaker 12>to lower cost when his city was recently rated the

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<v Speaker 12>most expensive, the least affordable for housing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true, That's why we're fixing it.

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<v Speaker 7>While we're building.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why we're building housing. Steve, That's how it works.

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<v Speaker 12>He's not fixing it because he's not fixing it because

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<v Speaker 12>they're building.

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<v Speaker 8>Housing are as high.

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<v Speaker 9>This year as they ever were.

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<v Speaker 3>All the plans he see.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I go back to my original question, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point do you build enough housing that the costs

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<v Speaker 1>come down?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, when do we get to that point?

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<v Speaker 12>All the plans he talks about have not actually reduced

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<v Speaker 12>the cost.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that we are currently building is demolishing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of old buildings and replacing them with new buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we want to demolish single family homes with

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<v Speaker 1>SB seventy nine and turn them into apartment buildings. So

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<v Speaker 1>in essence, we're actually taking away a lot of housing

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<v Speaker 1>to build new housing.

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<v Speaker 12>All the plans he talks about have not actually reduced

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<v Speaker 12>the cost of housing because fundamentally, he supports the policies

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<v Speaker 12>that have made housing and gas the most expensive in

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<v Speaker 12>the country. We need to change from those policies, not

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<v Speaker 12>more of the same.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, Steve, you came to San Jose to see

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<v Speaker 8>our success on interim housing. Now you're against it because

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<v Speaker 8>I'm in the race. I mean, come on, they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, mister Mayhem.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has their canned lines, their canned attack lines. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm so over the seven person debate format.

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<v Speaker 9>Mister viber Goosa. People who are leaving California.

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<v Speaker 11>Our population has been dropping over the course of the

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<v Speaker 11>last several years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The population is in decline. Los Angeles County

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<v Speaker 1>lost fifty thousand people. But still we need to build

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch more housing. I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 11>And many of the people who are leaving are making

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<v Speaker 11>north of two hundred thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 9>How do you reverse that trend?

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<v Speaker 11>You have one minute.

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<v Speaker 9>Speak clear. Sacramento is too expensive.

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<v Speaker 13>This is the toughest state to do business in the

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<v Speaker 13>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean Sacramento makes it too expensive. Sacramento

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<v Speaker 1>actually is that Sacramento area cheaper than the Bay area

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people move there during COVID.

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<v Speaker 9>Sacramento is too expensive. This is the toughest state to

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<v Speaker 9>do business in the.

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<v Speaker 13>United States of America, including for small business that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that lane of a centrist candidate appeals to

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<v Speaker 1>both sides, that is currently polling at two percent.

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<v Speaker 13>That we have the highest gas prices on average two

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<v Speaker 13>dollars a gallon more.

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<v Speaker 9>And the fact is it's not a ran.

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<v Speaker 13>That's the only reason, because that's picked it up another dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact and that's not ending anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 9>The fact is it's Sacramento policies.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, we've made it impossible for refineries to exist.

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<v Speaker 13>Some of you know Valero just down the way, they're closing.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear that I remember this, but i've yet I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been able to find the sound because it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the pre everything's on YouTube era. But Antonio Viragosa

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<v Speaker 1>is totally right. Valera and Benetia just closed. But Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Viragosa when he was mayor of Los Angeles, and I

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<v Speaker 1>swear this was twenty twelve, maybe twenty thirteen. At one

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<v Speaker 1>point he was making some big speech about the environment

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<v Speaker 1>and told Valero to get out of the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>But people can change, people can evolve. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>politicians they're really just for or whatever they think is popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, some of.

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<v Speaker 13>You know Valero just down the way, they're closing. They're

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<v Speaker 13>all closing, A dozen of them have closed. They produce

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<v Speaker 13>the cleanest fuel in the United States of America. The

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<v Speaker 13>fact is we've got to address this affordability issue and

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<v Speaker 13>look in the mirror and say, what have we done wrong?

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<v Speaker 13>What do we need to do to address that affordability?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, mistervered Not a lot of specifics, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did diagnose part of the problem. All right, Tony, gold

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<v Speaker 1>star for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>Misterverer goes to mister Bianco. Cuts in Washington have resulted

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 11>in healthcare premiums for programs they covered California to skyrocket.

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<v Speaker 11>Many people are dropping their plans and are just uninsured.

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<v Speaker 11>What will you do to bring people back into insurance

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<v Speaker 11>plans and how will you lower premium costs to help

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<v Speaker 11>keep Californians covered? You have one minute.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I'll get into that with the first thing that

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<v Speaker 14>we have to realize.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So not answering the question, I'm just saying, as

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<v Speaker 1>as a person who consumes this kind of content a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I look for is are you directly

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>answering a question or are you going to your talking

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>points about how all of this is their fall. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get in Look, there's one thing that's been pretty evident

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<v Speaker 1>by the last five debates. When the state of California

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<v Speaker 1>actually watches Chad Bianco ranting and raving, his poll numbers

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<v Speaker 1>go down. He may be saying the right things, but

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>he presents them in a very pissed off way that

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<v Speaker 1>does not attract voters.

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<v Speaker 14>I'll get into that with the first thing that we

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<v Speaker 14>have to realize, and we've seen from the last three debates,

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<v Speaker 14>and this is I can already see this is going

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<v Speaker 14>to be the fourth. When you're three year old rights

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<v Speaker 14>on the wall with a marker, you don't give him

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<v Speaker 14>a gallon of paint and let him fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wrote that one? Senator Joe Kennedy from Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 14>We are in this position because every single person up

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<v Speaker 14>here and the decisions and the policy decisions and the

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<v Speaker 14>policy directions that they have supported through out their careers

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 14>that have put us here. And you're listening to the

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 14>same things. You're listening to thirty years of more tax

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<v Speaker 14>regulation and free stuff. And you think that the cost

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<v Speaker 14>of living is going to go down, You think the

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<v Speaker 14>cost of health insurance is going to go down. That

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<v Speaker 14>is why all of these costs are going up.

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<v Speaker 3>Bianc goes a little light on the specifics.

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<v Speaker 14>So when you eliminate the regulation, you eliminate the excessive

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<v Speaker 14>business taxes that are forcing people out of this state.

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<v Speaker 14>Then you can fix government. You do not fix government

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<v Speaker 14>with the same tired old policies of bribing you with

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 14>free things for an election, and then four years later

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<v Speaker 14>we're going through the same conversation because nothing changes.

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<v Speaker 9>You've got to vote for something different.

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<v Speaker 1>And the biggest difference that I see, if you know

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>this is what appeals to you, is that Chad Bianco

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>will say that as the answer to every single question.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hilton will also say that, but will also prescribe

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<v Speaker 1>what the policy fixes that he thinks would solve that problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a minor little difference in presentation style.

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<v Speaker 11>Mister Bianco, could you explain how you would keep people

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<v Speaker 11>on their insurance plans? With healthcare premiums going up?

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<v Speaker 14>The number one we wouldn't have to worry about health

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 14>care insurance is going up because of Washington. If California

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<v Speaker 14>managed its finances, we are we want to blame everything

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<v Speaker 14>about California. Donald Trump was named ten times in the

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 14>opening statements. We want to blame one year of Donald

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 14>Trump on thirty years people. We are going to fix

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<v Speaker 14>the financial problem in California.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he has a plan for this.

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<v Speaker 14>We are going to fix the financial problem in California

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<v Speaker 14>caused by all of these the waste, the fraud, the abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Why didn't you just say that. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have said that a minute and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 14>The fraud, the abuse, the excessive fraud, embezzlement, and abuse

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<v Speaker 14>in our medical system that allows that to happen in

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<v Speaker 14>the first place.

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<v Speaker 13>You've had a sixty percent were sent your budget since

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<v Speaker 13>you've been sheriff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a weird one.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole state of California's budget is fifty percent higher

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<v Speaker 1>than it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you for Viera.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's starting to get off the rails kids, right.

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<v Speaker 9>Mister comment mister Bessera.

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<v Speaker 15>The Trump administration announced just yesterday it will withhold one

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 15>point three billion in Medicaid payments to California over a

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 15>hospice fraud. As governor, how would you crack down ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till they find out about the taxi cabs of

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the method on clinics.

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<v Speaker 15>As governor, how would you crack down on healthcare fraud

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<v Speaker 15>in the state?

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<v Speaker 2>You have one minute right, in the same way I

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>did it when I was Attorney general. We establish a

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<v Speaker 2>bureau that dealt with medical fraud working with the federal government. Unfortunately,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Trump is a problem because Trump took a trillion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, whatever you do, if be Sarah's talking, don't play

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the T word drinking game, because you will gad hammered.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Trump is a problem because Trump took a trillion dollars

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 2>out of the healthcare system, out of the Medicare or

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>the excuse me, the medicaid and the medical system.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy's the front runner Iraq Iran, Medicaid, medical, It

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Trump is now trying to deprive California of another billion

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars in healthcare for medical He doesn't have the right

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>You still have to prove that there's been fraud and abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've proven a lot of it just with the

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>reporting going on from CBS News, who's hosting this debate.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>He is in advance taking money even though he hasn't

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>proven in court what he's done. So we should go

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>after him the way I had to do over one

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty times when I was Attorney general. We

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>will fight to get those taxs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the strategy, and maybe this is the strategy

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that is working in the primary. But Javier Bisera will

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>get attacked by every single candidate on this stage, and

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Javier Basera will in response, turn every single one of

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>those into an attack on Trump and the federal government.

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's the strategy, maybe to get enough voters

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in a primary. That's all you have to say. It's

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>sad that we can't talk about the real policy problems

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that are going on in the state of California, but

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it is a primary, after all, and we are a

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>very partisan society.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as I wish.

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<v Speaker 2>We were in those tax subsidies under the Affordable Care

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<v Speaker 2>Act back for California families.

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<v Speaker 9>We will fight to make sure we get the money.

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<v Speaker 1>But how are you gonna do that. You're the governor,

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>You're not in Congress.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>We will fight to make sure we get the money

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that we sent to the federal treasury for medical in California,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise three million Californians are in jeopardy of losing

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>their health care. We won't let Trump get in our way.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>And whether it's the Trump, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna build houses, We're gonna build them. How

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna stop trouble? We're just gonna stop them.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But Sarah doesn't have a whole lot of specifics for anything, gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax because he's reincreased the fight the price by going

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to war in Iran, or whether it's the tariffs that

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>are attacks We're gonna fight against Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, mister Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how many times he said that word.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, mister Pisarah.

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<v Speaker 15>On the issue of healthcare, do you believe in single

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<v Speaker 15>payer healthcare?

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<v Speaker 9>I absolutely have said over and over yes I do. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I let me just be consistent. I have Medical for

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<v Speaker 2>All is a form of single payer. For more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years.

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I have been medical for all. He gets a little confused.

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<v Speaker 9>For more than thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been a proponent an author of legislation for

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare Medicare for All, which is a form of single payer.

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<v Speaker 9>And I've done that over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what I will tell you is this Ryan, what

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>we have to do, because people in California don't care

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>what you call it. At the end of the day,

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>what they want is access to a doctor when they

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>need it and a bill that they can afford to pay.

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we don't have either of those.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's what we'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I was secretary, I advance more coverage from more.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but ever since my insurance

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>through the Saggrafter Union change certain different kinds of providers. Now,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>every time I get a blood test, I get like

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty different bills for twelve dollars from lab Corp. And

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>they will send you letter after letter after letter after

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>letter making sure you pay them. And I'm like, wait,

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>why isn't my insurance paying for this?

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>More coverage for more Americans than ever before, and we

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>lower prices.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, mister Pissarah.

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<v Speaker 15>Mister Hilton, as someone who has lived in UK under

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 15>a single payer healthcare system, you have been highly critical

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 15>of it and said, as governor, the only way to

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 15>bring healthcare costs down is to stop covering illegal immigrants.

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 15>What do you say to voters who believe healthcare is

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<v Speaker 15>a right and.

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<v Speaker 9>Not a privilege? You have a one minute, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear about this. He has some

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>lived experience in a country that had a single payer system.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell us why this idea doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think it's fair that California taxpayers, who can

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<v Speaker 12>barely afford their own health coverage should be paying.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not going to answer that question. Come on, Steve,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be the policy guy.

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<v Speaker 12>For the healthcare of citizens of other countries, and if

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<v Speaker 12>you look at the record of Havier, it's exactly what

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 12>Chad was just saying that you cannot believe that any

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 12>change will come from these people.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 9>He as healths.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't look like we're going to debate the merits of

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a single payer system anytime soon. It's going to be attack, attack, attack,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>attack attack. I'm going to tell you right now, I

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>learned nothing in that one hour and a half debate,

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think you did either. If he'd like

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to email as, you could do so at Johnny don't

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny, don't like

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>show at gmail dot com. And thank you so much

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>for this listener, Tom, who sent me an article from

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the La Times from September one, twenty twenty ten. Did

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I just say twenty twenty ten? Okay, we're in the

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>middle of the twenty twenties. I haven't had to say

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten in a very long time. Excuse me, now,

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>what is this article from twenty ten? Mayor Vira Gosa

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>go home? Texas Oil companies No. Mayor Antonio Viragosa on

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday rebuked Valero Energy Corps and Tsorro, which operates refineries

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in Wilmington, for bank rolling a measure that would effectively

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>scuttle the state's efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions. This

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>was the ballot measure to kill cap and trade. Quote

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>go home Texas oil companies, Viragosa urged at a news

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>conference aimed at encouraging voters to oppose Prop twenty three.

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>But look, people can evolve, and I don't think a

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people on that stage outside of Tom Steyer,

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>who we've already established is insane because of the billion

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.919
<v Speaker 1>dollars that made his brain crazy. Most of these people

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>are not ideologues. They will go with whatever the position

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>is that they think is popular, or for certain races,

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>especially primaries, they go for the position that they think

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>makes them distinct in their lane. So yes, Antonio Viragosa

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago said screw you, Valerio, and now he

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>is saying, come on, come on, come on, we need you, Valerio.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>We got two hours to go, and I am so excited.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite guests that we have on the

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock show is Elizabeth barko'honna, and she is on

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the LA GOP California GOP Central Committee. She also is

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a big influencer in state and local politics, and she'll

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be here to talk to us about the governor's debate,

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the mayor's race, and much much more so.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it right here. It's Randy Wang on the John

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips Show.