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Speaker 1: Seneca Speaks twenty one Seneca Scott, welcome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, guys, both of you at the

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for stopping by, and you are our first

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Speaker 3: Nothing definitive, just the Vuma mile. But the scuttle butt

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so, when you're talking about the populist pendulum in history,

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Speaker 3: So yes, Kevin Bass, Yes, she's gonna lose to Nythia.

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Speaker 3: If you're watching the listener, do not pertuade the truck

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Speaker 3: of this club. But I'm gonna file for Mayo, and

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Speaker 3: don't have time to run for Mayo. I'm doing too

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Speaker 3: advanced age and the fact that you're really putting the

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Speaker 3: Anyone supported by believe you know why you're doing it.

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Speaker 3: You're doing it because it puts you close to power.

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Speaker 3: You don't usually think that this lady is capable of

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Speaker 3: But you know what I was saying, if I wasn't restricted,

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Speaker 3: all right, I mean, they have some breaking news there.

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Speaker 3: Seneca Scott the host of the Gotham Oakland podcast. You

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Speaker 2: It's happened yet again.

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Speaker 4: Nice see time for the California crime blodder and Randy.

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Speaker 2: This would involve gift cards, specifically a contractor that got

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what they say, Randy, when it comes

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Speaker 6: Many companies that sell gift cards have voluntarily adopted measures

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Monica and Catherine. It was really a

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Speaker 2: To fear motivates you to do very, very, very stupid things.

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Speaker 1: You sound like someone who's taken many corporate cybersecurity classes.

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Speaker 7: The store where he bought them, well, maybe it would

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Speaker 7: he was shocked when suddenly his good name was associated

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Speaker 7: with a heinous and disgusting crime by who he thought

436
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 7: was a federal agent who said his computer had been

437
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 7: hacked by criminals, as was his soon to be frozen

438
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Speaker 7: bank account.

439
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Red flag, red flag, red flag. At no point are

440
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: the Feds ever going to call you out of the

441
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: blue and say, oh, your bank account's frozen, you've been hacked.

442
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: Someone bought a bunch of child porn. We need money.

443
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: This is why we do these stories, because it's all

444
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: about awareness. At this point, it is impossible to stop

445
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: these John, you talk about all the time, how when

446
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: we busted up El Mensho there's an entire farm of

447
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: people just defrauding the elderly in Mexico. The entire economy

448
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: of Cambodia is built on scamming American old people. We

449
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: cannot shut this stuff down fast enough. So the only

450
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: thing you can do is educate the people in your circle,

451
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: in your family, all the signs that you're about to

452
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: be scammed, yet they keep falling for it.

453
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Speaker 7: He offered to move his money to a secure federal

454
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Speaker 7: reserve while they investigated.

455
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Speaker 1: There were little red flags going out in my head.

456
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Speaker 2: But then the allegations of child pornography were here's a question,

457
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: and maybe I don't want to know the answer to this,

458
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: and I don't think our audience knows the answer to this.

459
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: But where do you buy the supposed things that you're

460
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 2: not supposed to be buying that all of a sudden

461
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: got flagged by the FBI? Probably not etsy Facebook marketplace

462
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: very serious also, and that weighed against my intuition of, oh,

463
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: there's something wrong here.

464
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Speaker 7: Jay says he gave the fake federal agents remote access

465
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Speaker 7: to his accounts, but he wasn't able to move his money.

466
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Speaker 7: So the man the suggested a different way. Low s

467
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Speaker 7: gift cards.

468
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Speaker 2: A red flag number seventy four.

469
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Speaker 1: Okay, at what point? Now we have sympathy for this

470
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: guy because he was taken for a ride, But at

471
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: what point do you say, all right, you are so stupid.

472
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say you deserved it, but my

473
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: sympathy is just limited. I'm sorry again, these people are

474
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: all thinking very irrationally. Fear can motivate you to do very,

475
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: very stupid things because you were not in your right

476
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: mind when you are if you believe that all of

477
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, your whole life is in shambles, you have

478
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: so many things running through your brain. We see this

479
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I would not say

480
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: this man's not even that oldies in his sixties, but

481
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: this stuff happens so often. The only thing you're can

482
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: take from it is that fear changes the way that

483
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: your brain works.

484
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Speaker 2: Maybe at that point I figured he must have me

485
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: on a man or something, because you know, there were

486
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: just a lows week close by.

487
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 7: So he says five minutes later he wouldn't.

488
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, at what point does the federal agent say, Okay, well,

489
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: you gave us your bank password, but that didn't work.

490
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: How about a bunch of lows gift cards.

491
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: That's how the US government takes payment.

492
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 7: And to this store in Mission City, a manager increased

493
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 7: the gift card limit from five hundred to two thousand dollars.

494
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: And okay, now there's another red flag here. And this

495
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: is a red flag not just on this poor contractor,

496
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: but also on the people at Low's. Why would anyone

497
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: need a two thousand dollars gift card to loas? Okay,

498
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: but isn't this guy a contractor? Yes, but why if

499
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: anyone need a two thousand dollars gift card.

500
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's someone in the business. They

501
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: do large transactions.

502
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Not usually in gift cards.

503
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 7: He bought two of them.

504
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: He says.

505
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 7: He was in and outs in about fifteen minutes with

506
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 7: the scammer listen in on his phone he held in

507
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 7: his hand.

508
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: This is the other red flag. They always say, you

509
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 2: need to stay on the phone with me the entire time,

510
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: because if you hung up that phone, some sense might

511
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: get knocked back into your head that you're being scammed.

512
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: But as long as they can keep you on the hook,

513
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there are scripts for this. It's almost like

514
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: you have these giant call centers where people sometimes doing

515
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: this by the way, against their will have every single

516
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: tactic and they are trained to keep you on the

517
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: phone and to keep you giving the money. And even

518
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: if he gave up those two thousand dollars gift cards

519
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: until he realizes what's going on, they're going to ask

520
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: for more and more and more until they've bled you dry.

521
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: And then it's one big surprise.

522
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: The whole time. Jay says he was so caught up

523
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 7: in the moments he didn't notice these signs warning customers

524
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: of gift card scams.

525
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: What does that tell you that when you go to

526
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: buy the random gift cards at Low's, there's a whole

527
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: bunch of signs that say, help protect your sell from

528
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: gift card scams. I'm telling you that there's so few

529
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: legitimate reasons to buy all those gift cards.

530
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know where it makes a lot of sense

531
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: is Costco because you can go to Costco. It's almost

532
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: like a group on there where you can get one

533
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of let's say, California Pizza Kitchen gift

534
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: cards for eighty So you benefit from buying the gift

535
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: cards at a place like Costco. At Low's, where it's

536
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars for one hundred dollars. I don't understand

537
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: the appeal.

538
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: You know what we should do, just collectively as a society,

539
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: we should just say enough with the gift cards. We

540
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: have Venmo, we have Zell. Just give everyone cash. Everyone

541
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: loves cash. Cash is king, and then we don't need

542
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: the gift card industry. You can still have your Costco

543
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: group ponds or your Costco deal where you can go

544
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: to Disneyland for an actual affordable price. But if we

545
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: stopped the knee for gift cards, we go wipe all

546
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: of this out immediately.

547
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: But we're not going to do that. And cash is

548
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: always the right size.

549
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: Yes it is, he doesn't. The problem is the scammers

550
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: like cash too.

551
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 7: They remember anyone at the store bringing it up to him.

552
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: If they would have said something like that, it would

553
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: have supported my that little voice in my head saying,

554
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: you know what.

555
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Are they supposed to say? They get on the intercom

556
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: and go, hey, the village idiot is back at the

557
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: gift cards section, will someone please kick his ass out?

558
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: The manager should have known something was going on, but

559
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: I guess it's not on them, but the fact that, again,

560
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: maybe everyone needs to be trained. Why was this poor

561
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: contractor on the phone the entire time while he's asking

562
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: to up their limit of five hundred dollars gift cards

563
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: to two thousand dollars gift cards.

564
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: You know what, I have a prediction. Yes, the next

565
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: thing this guy is gonna do is he is going

566
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: to find some woman on the internet who's about eighteen

567
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: years old and looks like a supermodel who takes a

568
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: sudden interest in him, and she's gonna need plenty of

569
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: gift cards too. And then he's going to be back

570
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: on the news.

571
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: So he's gonna end up meeting somebody like Steven Glubec's girlfriend.

572
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: No, this one's also going to be from the same

573
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: call center as the first one.

574
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 7: Oh boy, don't do this, but Los told NBC seven

575
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 7: responds that video from the source shows that a customer

576
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 7: service associates and an assistant manager both followed the steps

577
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 7: outlined in Low's Comprehensive employee Training program for recognizing and

578
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 7: responding to possible gift card scams and ask the customer

579
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 7: what the gift cards were being purchased for, and both

580
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 7: advised the customer about gift card scams.

581
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so he just wasn't paying attention at all to that,

582
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: of course, I mean you really at that point you

583
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: don't want to think and do you talk about how

584
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: the fear motivates you to do something so irrational, The

585
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: fear while you're in the middle of doing it that

586
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: this could be a terrible idea will also paralyze you.

587
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Well. And then when you also factor in a room

588
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: temperature IQ, that's a real bad combo.

589
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: I sure hope this never happens to you in forty years.

590
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Could we afford gift cards on the after pension?

591
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: No, No, they said nothing about.

592
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: It, Jasas. Once he was out of the store, the

593
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 7: fake agent then told him to send him pictures of

594
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 7: the gift cards with a number scratched off.

595
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: And if only he had some red flags.

596
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: This is why we do these stories. This is why

597
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: we're so glad that NBC seven does these stories. Education

598
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: is our only defense against this nonsense.

599
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 7: Four thousand dollars were gone just like that. According to

600
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 7: the FTC, in twenty twenty five, it received more than

601
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 7: thirty five thousand scam reports totally more than two hundred

602
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 7: and thirty three million dollars in losses, more than any

603
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 7: year since twenty twenty one.

604
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Thing about that right there that's on the screen. Two

605
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three million dollars in just gift card

606
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: scams in this country, and it goes up almost every

607
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: single year.

608
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 7: The National Conference of State Legislatures reported in February that

609
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 7: also in the last five years, six states passed laws

610
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 7: that required merchants to post visible warnings to customers about

611
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 7: potential gift card fraud.

612
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: Well, we have that in California and it didn't do anything.

613
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: Nope, and it sounds like they follow the rules well.

614
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: And in California is a very specific case because thanks

615
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: to Prop sixty five, nobody pays attention to any warning

616
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: signs for everything. When you go to Starbucks and in

617
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: the middle of the menu is the Prop. Sixty five

618
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: warning that coffee could give you cancer, nobody reads any

619
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: warning labels anymore.

620
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Well, And to defend the stores, they're damn if they do,

621
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: damned if they don't. You're always afraid of being sued

622
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: for one reason or another. What do you do if

623
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: you're the clerk and you think that this guy's being scammed,

624
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: You go, no, sorry, sir, even though you have the money,

625
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: I can't sell you the gift cards because you look

626
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: too dumb to handle the transaction.

627
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 7: Three of them required the state government to provide a

628
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 7: model notice that merchants can use to fulfill that requirement,

629
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 7: and two states passed laws with additional requirements related to packaging,

630
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 7: record keeping, and employee training.

631
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would put any blame on them.

632
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: Jay makes it clear that what happened was all on him,

633
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 7: But man does he wish merchants did more to protect

634
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: customers from gift card scams.

635
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: Some of it was deposits for work that was in progress.

636
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 7: Because it can take a long time to recover financially

637
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 7: and emotionally.

638
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: You know.

639
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 7: Jay tells me that he's really relying on credit cards

640
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 7: to get past these tough times, and those also.

641
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: That's not a good time to do that.

642
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: There's another phive beta cap a decision.

643
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Poor guy told us.

644
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 7: The gift card purchases are manages like cash transaction, so

645
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: there's no way to track who redeems the cards. So

646
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 7: scam victims should report it to the store the minutes

647
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 7: they find out it was all a scam.

648
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 5: And remember, no.

649
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 7: Government agency will ever ask you to pay or send

650
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 7: money through gift cards. Just hang up if they do.

651
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's.

652
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Kind Also maybe the most important PSA of all, do

653
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: not answer the phone if you don't know what the

654
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 2: number is. No, if they're really somebody that has something

655
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: to say to you, they'll leave you a voicemail.

656
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: But when you're usually they'll find you, whether it's through

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Speaker 6: If I'm to share his story so others can learn

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Speaker 6: from that, for suresolutely.

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Speaker 2: I had to get that absolutely in there.

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Speaker 1: What a way to end that story.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, the sad, sad story of what

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Speaker 2: happened to the contractor. They got scammed out of four

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in gift cards to Low's.

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Speaker 1: Just wait until some vendor he does business with hits

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Speaker 1: him up and goes, guess what, uh, sorry, your identity

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Speaker 2: At stop and get guests on YouTube rights In has

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Speaker 5: For that guy?

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Speaker 2: No, Monica writes in Johnny's too smart for that.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's the John Phillips Show. It's the John

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Speaker 1: and Phillip Show. Eight hundred two two two five two

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Speaker 1: email the show, you can do so at Johnny don't

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Speaker 1: like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny, don't like

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Speaker 1: show at gmail dot com, and Randy, you're monitoring the

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Speaker 1: mail bag. Joe writes in at Johnny, don't like show

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. On the four thousand dollars contractor scam.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, I purchased a car out of state.

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Speaker 1: My bank took ten minutes of my time to assure

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Speaker 1: was legit. So that guy is causing the rest of

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Speaker 1: us a lot of grief, frustration, and time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have had multiple times where I go to buy

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Speaker 1: about spending fifteen hundred, maybe two thousand dollars, and the

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Speaker 2: Oh, this must be fraud. He doesn't have money for that.

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Speaker 1: They did that to me when I bought Disneyland tickets

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Speaker 1: at Costco and Randy, if you want to watch us

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Speaker 1: do the show live, you can do so and participate

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Speaker 1: in the program.

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Speaker 2: We are now live streaming every single day from noon

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Speaker 2: to three, So not only can you listen to us

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Speaker 2: on the radio on seven ninety KABC and eight ten KSFO,

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Speaker 2: but you can also watch us on x at Johnny

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Speaker 2: Don't Like, on Facebook at KABC and Facebook at KSFO,

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Speaker 2: on Twitch at Randy Wang Radio, and at least for today,

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Speaker 2: on YouTube at Randy Wang Radio. And what's great is

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Speaker 2: any of these whether you're commenting on a post or

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Speaker 2: you're participating in the chatroom, it goes right to us.

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Speaker 2: We can see your comments, we can read your comments,

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Speaker 2: and some of them even make it on the big screen.

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Speaker 2: And so thank you so much for participating. This feels

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Speaker 2: so interactive. We are lo it. Bill writes in on

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Speaker 2: YouTube awesome video broadcast. Guys, I'm glad so many people

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Speaker 2: get to where we are today, but I am very

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Speaker 2: happy that for the most part, seems to be working

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Speaker 2: very well. So make sure to share this show with

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Speaker 2: as many people as possible, your social circles, your friends,

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Speaker 2: because hey, this is a place where we can all

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Speaker 2: gather and hang out every single day from noon to three.

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Speaker 2: The only difference between you guys and us is we

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Speaker 1: And we also have a standalone podcast, the Accountability Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The Accountability Podcast with John Phillips and Randy Wags is.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we want to hold

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Speaker 1: people accountable.

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Speaker 2: We did a full deep dive into why Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: will never be president. If you haven't seen it yet,

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Speaker 2: go to YouTube dot com, slash at Accountability Podcasts, search

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Speaker 2: for KABC on Apple podcasts. If you have any trouble

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Speaker 2: finding it, go to KBC dot com or send us

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Speaker 2: an email at Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail dot

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Speaker 2: com and we will point you in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: All right, We've got one more hour coming up on

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Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show. Don't You Go Anywhere,