1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: on The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wags in Culver City. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, John, a lot of people thought it might be 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, or the Angels, or the Giants or the A's, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: but no, the first Major League Baseball brawl in the 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: stands happen at a Podres game. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen some footage from Dodger Stadium 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: that looks like, I don't know, Thunderdome. That's every night, though. 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: What was the sport that they used to play on 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Saturdays when they'd all be on the roller skates beating 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: each other up roller derby? That's right. Eight hundred two 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: two two five two two two is Jellphone number one. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two. It 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: She is a professor of political science emeritus at California 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: State University at Fullerton. Professor Barbara Stone, Welcome, Hey. 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: John, be kind about the Dodgers. I can't help it 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: if neither the Angel team nor their fans get that 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: excited anyway. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Hey, we started out the season two and zero. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, Okay, Hi John, nice to talk to you. 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go ahead and get right into 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: this governor's race because Eric Swolwell just scooped up a 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: big endorsement in Democratic Party politics, and that is the 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: endorsement of the California Teachers Association. We received an email 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: from a listener who was in the room when that 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: decision was made. Apparently it was back and forth between 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: him and Stire and it wasn't until the eleventh hour 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: that he eked it out. 30 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to go back. It's the Democrats 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: who always love original causes and problems, but that in 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: a lot of ways for the Democratic candidates, this really 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: is much of a Gavin Newsom's fault. He sucks up 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: the air, He for Prop fifty, sucked up the money, 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: and nobody paid any attention to any of these people 36 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: until quite recently. And actually with Tom Steyer, given what 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: he has spent on TV advertising, because he's the one 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 3: that didn't affect, he should be dropping out right now. 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: People don't want him. But with that they left it 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: so until really recently, and I'm not sure that it's 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: still happening. The electorate is paying no attention to these people. John, 42 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: So you come up with an Eric Swallwell, Oh, what 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: does he have to offer? He is literally running against 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. That's it. I love his thing that he's 45 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: the one Trump fears. I don't think. So he doesn't 46 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: talk about California issues, but that's because he doesn't know 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: anything about them. I think I said to somebody that 48 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: he wouldn't talk about federal issues either because he doesn't 49 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: know anything about them either. He I think has the 50 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: worst attendance record in Congress, or if not pretty close. 51 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: So you have a guy who's nothing except a media hog, 52 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: and that's who's leading the Democratic charge. 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Dear lord, what is the biggest threat right now two 54 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Republicans in terms of trying to get two Republicans on 55 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: the November ballot? Is it that Democrats will coalesce behind 56 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Swalwell and he will escape any kind of scandal that 57 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: would kill off his campaign chances. Or would it be 58 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: for Swalwell to implode long before the voting starts and 59 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: his support then to scatter all over the board with 60 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: one fewer candidate in the race and a candidate who 61 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: was at the top of the heap. I don't know 62 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: if the Republicans could get two candidates on the November 63 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: ballot without Swallwell in. 64 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: The race, as long as he's in third. I'm not 65 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: going to argue with you on that. It's interesting and 66 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: in fact, just a little insight. I think the obsession 67 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: with two Republicans on the ballot and how it could 68 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: happen appears to possess Democratic operatives and people such as 69 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: you and I John, the general run of even Republican 70 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: activists I talked to do not know this. One of 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: them grabbed me less than a week ago, going, oh 72 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: my god, Oh my god, did you hear? Did you 73 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: hear we can get two Republicans on if things happen 74 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: and he hadn't heard it before then he didn't know. 75 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: So you have Republicans there, and the biggest threat from 76 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: the Republican side is that they won't vote. Many think 77 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 3: it's that they'll go for one or the other and 78 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: therefore you won't evenly distribute the vote. But the way 79 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: things have gone in the state, I think you're far 80 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: bigger threat is that Republicans won't turn out because they 81 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: haven't been recently. So we'll find out if our state 82 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: and local parties are any good because they've got to 83 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: make it happen. And that's the basis they've got to 84 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: make it happen for In terms of the Democrats coalescing, 85 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: I honestly don't know, since I'm looking at what's next 86 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: is Katie Porter. That's a little hard to swallow. And 87 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: they have other candidates, but it's difficult to tell anybody. 88 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: Will anyone popping out? And the answer is, I just 89 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: don't know. By the way, the reason you're suddenly hearing 90 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: about all their money is that the end of a 91 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: reporting quarter is today, and anyone who's raised anything is 92 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: leaking it, so you're sure to get their numbers early. 93 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: They've put pressure on everybody and you're seeing pretty maximum 94 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: fundraising right now. Anyway, John, I simply don't know how 95 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: it plays out on their side, but I don't for 96 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: a minute think they're going to hold back going after 97 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: Swallwell Well. 98 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: To that point, what do you make of the philosophy 99 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: of these Democrats and the single digits who seem to 100 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: be aware that there is a push within the party 101 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: to coalesce behind Swallwell and they're not afraid of that. Now, 102 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: keep in mind it was a vere REGOs strategist to 103 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: initially put out the tweet saying everyone in Democratic Party 104 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: politics knows about the transgressions of Eric Swalwell regarding staffers 105 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: and interns in his office, and they know that his 106 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: campaign is eventually going to fizzle out because of it. 107 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: They just don't know when. I would imagine that there 108 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: seems to be the belief among those Democrats and single 109 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: digits that Swalwell is problematic enough to where they don't 110 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: have to worry about him running away with this thing. 111 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: I think that's entirely possible, And you know, sometimes timing 112 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: is everything. By the way, if I were Swallwell, I 113 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: would not be threatening to sue cash Betel if he 114 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: releases stuff on Fangfang because other times calling attention to 115 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: Fangfang might or might not be good. But having just 116 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: taken down the image of Caesar Chavez on basis like that, 117 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: I don't think I would want Democrats in the state 118 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: to be looking at it. But you never know. 119 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Do you think feminist democrats would have a problem if 120 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: it was a consensual relationship between him and a Chinese spy. 121 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that's something that would offend democrats? I 122 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: don't think it would offend them. 123 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it would defend them at all. Yeah, 124 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back, and this is a lot 125 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: of years when now actually was a feminist organization and 126 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: they hopped around looking for men who did bad things 127 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: to women. And I was with a number of them 128 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: and I couldn't help it. I brought up Bill Clinton. 129 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: You know their answer, They wish he would harass them. 130 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm not making that up. So these things are very situational, John, 131 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: and they'll only get offended if they basically don't like 132 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: Smallwell anyway, Now I'm going to be unkind about Swallowell. 133 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: I can see why some some women might might think 134 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: he's attractive. He has a look about him. Oh, Matt 135 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: Gates had it where I don't know how to describe it, 136 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: but it's off putting and I'm not sure he'll be 137 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: able to ride that. We're going to find out. 138 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: He looks smarty to me, he looks greasy and smarty. 139 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: That'll do it, that'll do it, and totally untrustworthy, which 140 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: apparently he is. But I that literally, I hate to 141 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: say it, John, I sincerely hope that we do what 142 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: we need to do. And if you actually could get 143 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: the two Republicans in the runoff. It would be future 144 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: Many future generations would talk about it because it would 145 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: be quite some thing. I suspect without knowing that the 146 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: numbers will shake out. But I do know if Republicans 147 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: turn out and they wait for Smallwell to collapse, and 148 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: then small Well doesn't collapse, and then he collapses late, 149 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: it's not impossible. And as you say, it's what the 150 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: others do. I still haven't figured out what Katie Porter 151 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: thinks she's doing. I understand better, well except Javier. But 152 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: Sarah thinks if they'll just look at him, the Latino 153 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: vote will come to him. That appears to not be happening. 154 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know where you go. Maybe it's because 155 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: no one can say his name when the President calls you, 156 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: Javier Bakaria, you have a problem for Secretary of Health 157 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: and Educations? Are I nominate Javier Bakaria? Ha ha that one. 158 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: I still haven't gotten over that. In case you haven't figured. 159 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: That out, let's shift here and talk about the SEIU 160 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: wealth come fuscation tax that they want on the November ballot. 161 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: They initially started this out saying we're only going after 162 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: billionaires and it's because they made their money here and 163 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: the States broke and we need it and we want 164 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: to go take it from them. And now polls have 165 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: been leaked that they are now conducting surveys where they're 166 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: asking voters if they would be opening open to doing 167 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: the same thing to people were ten million dollars or 168 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: more now on paper, I would imagine there's a lot 169 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: of small business owners or farmers, or people who seem 170 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to be rich on paper but really aren't in reality, 171 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: who this might nail in any number of ways. What 172 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: do you make of this push where they're going after 173 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: people who are not billionaires almost immediately or at least 174 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: testing the waters on it. 175 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: That they figured out that there are only so many 176 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: billionaires and that those people are already leaving the States, 177 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: so they're h I went and I actually looked at 178 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: what this five percent one time applied to, and you 179 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: nailed it. It applies to, by the way, individuals and trusts, 180 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: so family trusts, It applies to businesses, securities, intellectual property. 181 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: I will point out to you the particularly of the businesses. 182 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: All kinds of people who individually don't begin to have 183 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: that kind of money are going to be hit and 184 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: more importantly, John Day, don't have the cash to pay it. 185 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: You own stock. That means you have to sell stock 186 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: to pay it. You own a business, You're going to 187 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: have to get rid of it, least some of your 188 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: business to pay it. The one I love is that 189 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: they're also going to impose it on art and collectibles. 190 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: But I don't I think most people have that much 191 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: of that. But on top of that, you've got to 192 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: go in and somehow or another, you have to evaluate 193 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: the worth of these things, right. And yes, they're going 194 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: after the nice middle class they claim they like, but 195 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: somebody figured out there aren't enough tech billionaires and that 196 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: they're all leaving just for fun. By the way, do 197 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: you realize that they expect this to raise lots of money. 198 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: The initiative itself says that ninety percent nine zero percent 199 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: will go to healthcare. That is them. We have laws 200 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: in California that say a high percentage of new money 201 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: has to go to schools. This initiative exempts it gets 202 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: rid of that says doesn't apply here. We have laws 203 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: that say that some of it has to go to reserves. 204 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: It says that doesn't apply to this money. Actually, CTA 205 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: should really be against this because it's a terrible it's 206 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: a terrible precedent, and you talk about sheer greed just 207 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: as an aside to throw in. I was roving through 208 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: the Secretary of State. Don't laugh at me, but the 209 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: Secretary of State's website on what's in circulation. Somebody has 210 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: in circulation an initiative that would prohibit healthcare unions from 211 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: spending very much money at all on political matters. Now 212 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: I disapprove of that, but boy, will I vote for 213 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: it if they get it on the ballot. 214 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Well, what do you think of it? What do you 215 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: make of Gavin on this? Because Gavin is traveling around 216 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the country promoting his book, promoting himself, doing the podcast, 217 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: doing the national shows, speaking to democratic audiences, and what 218 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: he would say is, well, I'm on the record being 219 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: against this thing, and you go, Dodo, if you're not 220 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: here traveling up and down the state making the argument 221 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: against it, and this thing passes, your state is going 222 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: to lose its wealth. And he seems as if checking 223 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: the box of being on paper against it is enough 224 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to put any elbow grease in it. 225 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So tell me something new about him. I think 226 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: from his point of nah, seriously, from his point of view, 227 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: he did the big thing, well two things. He made 228 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: the gesture this is a bad idea, I'm against it, 229 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: and then believe it or not. He hasn't reversed core, 230 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: which is sometimes typical Gavin. I am confident that in 231 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: his mind he has done all he can do. 232 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: And what was interesting if you go back to thirty six. 233 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: He opposed thirty six, and he said he was going 234 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: to travel up and down the state against it, and 235 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: once he realized that the polling said it was going 236 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: to pass in all fifty eight counties, he just cut 237 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: bait yep. 238 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: And the polling on this thing at this point is 239 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: pretty decent. So I think you're lucky he hasn't just 240 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: reverse course. John. And now let me be really cold, 241 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: because the man is pulling actually quite well for president 242 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: of the United States. I honestly don't think there are 243 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: many voters in California right now that would care what 244 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: Gavin said about this. 245 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: You think Democratic voters in California have moved on from 246 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Gavin state issues. 247 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly what I think. You don't disagree to you, No. 248 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't, But he hasn't talked about state issues for 249 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: quite some time. He's moved on. 250 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why Eric Swalloll is a perfect replacement. 251 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Could you be the ghost of Christmas future here for 252 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: a second and tell us what happens if we get 253 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: a government in California from top to bottom, filled with 254 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: people who only care about federal issues and could care 255 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: less about state issues. 256 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: You understand, of course that can happen. And as I 257 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: think it through, they will even think that they're doing 258 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: the right thing, since, after all, we are so dependent 259 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: on federal money, we are so dependent on what the 260 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: Feds want to do. That evil Donald Trump is trying 261 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: to drill for oil off our coast, He's trying to 262 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: interfere with our great universities. It is appropriate, they will say, 263 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 3: to be focused on the Feds because they are the 264 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: major barrier to making California great again. That's how they'll 265 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: get away with it. The fact that they have very 266 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: little knowledge about the state, to be honest, that they 267 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: have a very little interest in the state, to be honest, 268 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: that Heaven protect us if they ever did bother thinking 269 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: about it to them will be irrelevant, I dear lord, 270 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: and you know what, John, that could be the situation. 271 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: I think at this point that's the likely situation. 272 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: Yes it is, which is why I will go back 273 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: to the only funny little glimmer of hope I see 274 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: is that the Democrats will mess up their gubernatorial things 275 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: so badly that you actually will get a Republican runoff, 276 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: which will minimally foul the whole thing up for quite 277 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: a while. And the key, I truly believe, one of 278 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: the two keys, is that Republicans get out and vote. 279 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: I know the state's gone crazy. I know you don't 280 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: elect anybody, but you have a shot here, and official 281 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: party people make sure you tell people that spend some money, 282 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: do some stuff, because California used to be a nice 283 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: place to live, all right. 284 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: And Professor Barberstone, Professor of Political Science, Emeritas and cal 285 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: State Fullerton, thank you. Eight hundred two two two five 286 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: two two two is telephone number one eight hundred two 287 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: two two five two two two. 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Yet 312 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: we are paying for her security detail, and we don't 313 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: know just exactly how much it's costing us. 314 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: And of course This is not a security detail because 315 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: there's any active threat or something. This is her security 316 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: detail that is flying around the country as she goes 317 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: on her book tour. She's not employed by the state, 318 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: she's not employed by the federal government, but she is 319 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: getting a full CHP detail as she goes to profit 320 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: off of a book sale. Mind you, the state of 321 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: California is broke for more on this because she's been digging. 322 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Ashley Zavala tries to get some answers as to how 323 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: this much is costing you. Here's kcra three and Ashley. 324 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: Zavalla, Governor ga Gavin Newsm's and gazzin first time I've 325 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: heard it pronounce that way. 326 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: Governor Gavin Newsm's administration will not reveal how much Kamala 327 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: Harris's security detail is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks 328 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 5: for being with us at five. 329 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: I would just say, why is her book publisher not 330 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: paying for security on this thing? Why is the state 331 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: paying for it? 332 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: Probably because she's not selling any books is cost Gavin 333 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: said he bought the book, but he has not read it. 334 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: I believe half of that statement. 335 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 5: Is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks for being with 336 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: us at five. I'm Goolstern Dark and Lisa Gonzalez. 337 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: Tonight, we're following up after we reported last month she's 338 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: using dozens of California Highway Patrol officers as her security detail. 339 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Our case a rithe. 340 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now this is very much like 341 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: Ricardo Laura, where you want a special assignment on the CHP, 342 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: you go be security detail. When he goes to Pride 343 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: in New York to hang out with DJ Kitty. 344 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Glitter, I'm very kind of sketch and I don't think 345 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: either one of them really need it. I think if 346 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: you show up with a bunch of police officers, you 347 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: get to enter the back door, you don't have to 348 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: wait in line, you don't have to do a lot 349 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: of the things that the peons have to do. 350 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: You could make an argument that because Kamala is an 351 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: international figure and she ran for president, maybe maybe she 352 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: needs some kind of security. 353 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: Nobody knows who Ricardo Laura is. Okay, you think for 354 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: one second, if Dan Quayle were walking up and down 355 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: the aisles at a mall, anyone would know who he is. 356 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 2: Nobody would, But Kamala is a little more recognizable because 357 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: she just ran for president than Dan Quayle, who hasn't 358 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: been vice president since nineteen ninety two. 359 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 7: Our KCER through political director Ashley Zavalas, was the first, And. 360 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: No, al Gore doesn't need it either, because everyone would think, 361 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: who's the guy that ate al Gore. 362 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: Isn't the rule though, where they get it for something 363 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: like six months. 364 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Yes, they get secret Service detail for six months afterwards, 365 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: and then to be vindictive, the Trump people cut that 366 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: off early, but then Gavin put his on there. But 367 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: now we're way past that. She's doing this because she's 368 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: getting a book tour. But why why are we paying 369 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: for her to go sell a book? Yeah, at this point, 370 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: it's been what a year and a half almost or 371 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: a year and a quarter. It's the world's longest book tour, which, 372 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: by the way, just canceled appearances in the state of California, 373 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: including in Sacramento and Anaheim. 374 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 7: Our KCRI through political director Ashley Zavalas, was the first 375 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 7: report on this story. 376 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: You've been digging into it. What are officials saying, Ashley Lisa. 377 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: At this point they're not saying much, still citing those 378 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: security reasons. These California High we patrol officers have been 379 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 6: assigned to her and her international book tour since August. 380 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 6: We've learned this is an unprecedented move and an amount 381 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: of time for a former California state elected official. So, 382 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 6: after we reported this last month. 383 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Where did she go internationally? 384 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: And why are you selling a book about the presidential 385 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: election in other countries? 386 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: Who is buying that book? Who is reading that book? 387 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: At this point, all of the interesting books about that 388 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: campaign came out a long time ago, and they focused 389 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: on Joe Biden and his mental decline and all of 390 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: that business. 391 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: She went to London, What exactly do the Brits want 392 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: to hear about a failed presidential campaign? She went to Toronto? 393 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Isn't that where she grew up? Maybe that's why. 394 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: So after we reported this last month, we submitted two 395 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 6: California Public Records Act requests. So on March fourth, we 396 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 6: filed one with the Governor's office. We asked specific for 397 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 6: documents and information related to just the cost the numbers 398 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 6: for the security arrangement. That can include communications with the 399 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 6: book publisher, Simon and Schuster or the Harris campaign. We 400 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 6: also requested budget documents. A couple of weeks later, the 401 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 6: Governor's Legal Unit replied that quote, the Governor's office is 402 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 6: not the custodian. 403 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: I like that term. The legal Unit. 404 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: Applied that quote, the Governor's office is not the custodian 405 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 6: of records. For this request, please contact the Highway Patrol. 406 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 6: We actually did contact the Highway Patrol that same day. 407 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 6: On March fourth, I submitted the request through their public 408 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 6: records portal. I asked specifically for the salaries or hourly 409 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 6: rates and overtime pay for the officers assigned to Harris 410 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 6: between August of last year and April of this year. 411 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: I also asked for receipts or evidence showing the total 412 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 6: amount paid for flights, hotels, meals, and other travel expenses 413 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 6: during that time period. The Highway Patrol confirmed they have 414 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 6: records related to the situation, but they will not release them, 415 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 6: citing a section of the law that protects law enforcement 416 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 6: related records. 417 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: Why why, why, why why can't they be transparent If 418 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: any of the CHP officers on Comalist detail got lounge access. 419 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: This is just like the Capital Annex project, and just 420 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: like the high speed rail. We know the costs are exploding, 421 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: they won't tell us what the costs are, and then 422 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: they tell us how transparent they are. You know, Gavin 423 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: is touted while police departments up and down the state 424 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: are seeing staffing shortages. He has spent a lot of 425 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: money staffing up the CHP. But are the CHP officers 426 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: doing what they did this week on the Bay Bridge 427 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: and taking down the e byte takeovers? How many CHP 428 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: officers are on some kind of nonsensical security detail? 429 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: And don't forget even when he sent them into Oakland 430 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: and San Francisco, didn't They primarily perform administrative tasks. 431 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: But they will not release them. Citing a section of 432 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 6: the law that protects law enforcement related records beneficial with 433 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: the public record sector, wrote quote, releasing I. 434 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Like the legal unit better than the public record sector. 435 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Me too. 436 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 6: Releasing costs related to a protective detail would reveal sensitive 437 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 6: security information? 438 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, it would not. No, this is them trying 439 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: to hide the cost from us. 440 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 6: We also reached out to the book publisher Simon and 441 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: Schuster for comment. 442 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: Why aren't they paying for her detail? Don't they want 443 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: her to be secure when she goes to Canada to 444 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: sell a book about an American election? 445 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Good question. 446 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 6: We also reached out to the Harris campaign. We have 447 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 6: yet to hear back. I just want to double down 448 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 6: on the fact that we're not asking for location. We're 449 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 6: not asking for even. 450 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: By the way, Kamala, who's not running for anything, send 451 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: a text out to everyone saying, give me money. 452 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: It's unreal that she's willing to take California Highway Patrol 453 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: protect action from a state that she knows is broke, 454 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: only to feed her own ego. 455 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 6: We also reached out to the Harris campaign. We have 456 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 6: yet to hear back. I just want to double down 457 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 6: on the fact that we're not asking for location. We're 458 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 6: not asking for even the number of officers. We are 459 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 6: just asking for the numbers. Just the balance sheet, like exactly, 460 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 6: tell us at the autumn of the total cost exactly 461 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 6: and even if you can't, you know, divvy it out. 462 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many rooms do they have to book when 463 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: they go to these hotels? 464 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what the cost must be if they're 465 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: hiding it and they're willing to go to these lengths 466 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: to hide it. Divvy it out. 467 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just a number, just I mean, and that's 468 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: what we've made the case in our request at the California. 469 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: It is not in any of her political duties as 470 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: a former vice president, as a former senator or former 471 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: attorney general to write a book. So why are we 472 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: paying for her to go on a book tour. It 473 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. Well, just imagine, let's say she's 474 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: flying first class. Job is to protect her. 475 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess in theory on the plane you can be 476 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: in coach, and you and your team can be in coach. 477 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: But you can also make the argument, hey, if someone 478 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: on the plane causes her problems, we need to be 479 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: around and be able to respond to it, so we 480 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: need first class tickets too. 481 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: That would be such a waste though, because you're on 482 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: duty and you can't drink. 483 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's what the rules say. And if she's on 484 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: tour and she's at the Four Seasons, the government rate 485 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: is probably at a hotel down the road, at the 486 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: travel lodge. But you could make the argument, if she's 487 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: getting ice from the ice machine at two o'clock in 488 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: the morning, we need to be around to be there 489 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: if someone causes her a problem, so we should stay 490 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: at the four Seasons too. And if that's the attitude 491 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: that you take, just imagine how much you could run 492 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: up these costs. 493 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 6: A constitution would say that taxpayers are at least entitled 494 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 6: to just know that simple information. 495 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely, So there's this. Also, we know that she canceled 496 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 5: her book tour. The stops here in California, including Sacramento. 497 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: So what's the reason on. 498 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: That, Oh, she doesn't need to make it. She doesn't 499 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: need to travel to California. She's been here. Now, you 500 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: know what's left on the book tour all of the 501 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: primary voting states. 502 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: You know what the irony is. We're paying for her 503 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: security around the globe, yet she canceled all of the 504 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: California stops. So in theory, if we're going to pony 505 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: up for the security of a dignitary when they're in 506 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: the state, that's the portion that she cut out. 507 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: She's got four more stops on this tour, Greensboro, Charlotte, Columbia, 508 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: South Carolina, and she ends it in Sylvannah, all states 509 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: important to the Democratic primary. 510 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: And we're paying for this. Eight hundred two two two 511 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: five two two two is a telephone number. What eight 512 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: hundred two to two five two two two. If you'd like 513 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: to email the show, you can do so at Johnny 514 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Don't Like Show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny Don't 515 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Like show at gmail dot com. Well, we know the 516 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: state of California is losing population, but within the state 517 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: of California, oh boy, is La County really losing population. 518 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: In fact, in just the last year, it looks like 519 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: La County lost fifty thousand people, which is an entire 520 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium worth of people. 521 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: And I read something in the Wall Street Journal yesterday 522 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: saying that the entertainment industry has essentially left Los Angeles 523 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: and is not coming back anytime soon. And then I 524 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: read something else that said, even within Los Angeles County, 525 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: there's been population shifts where people are moving out of 526 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: city centers and they're moving into areas that are considered 527 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: to be fire risk areas. So you live in let's 528 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: say downtown LA and then you determine, Okay, it's filled 529 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: with the homeless, it's filled with crime, and it's not 530 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: going to get better anytime soon. I'm going to move 531 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: to someplace where it's safer. I'm going to move to Pasadena, 532 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: or I'm going to move to Glendora or Claremont or 533 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: some place up against the San Gabriel Mountains where if 534 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: there's a fire you might be in danger. And that's 535 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: exactly what the state of California doesn't want. They don't 536 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: want more people moving into fire risk areas. They want 537 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: people moving out of those areas into areas where you 538 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it as much. 539 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Now, there are definitely people who are leaving the city 540 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: of La for other parts of La County. There are 541 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: plenty of people who are leaving La County for other 542 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: parts of the state. There are plenty of people leaving 543 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: the state of California for places like Texas and Florida. 544 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: And then there are people leaving all together and saying SCREWT. 545 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to Spain. Uh oh. For more on this, 546 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: here is NBCLA. 547 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 8: New data from the US Census shows more people left 548 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 8: La County last year than anywhere else in the country. 549 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: Shocker. If you're on the board of Supervisors, if you're 550 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: on the city council, isn't that an indictment of your leadership? 551 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 8: No Ore Lolita Lopez explains the consequences for the county 552 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 8: and the state if that continues. 553 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 9: It's been honestly one of the best decisions that I've 554 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 9: ever made in my life. 555 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 7: Perry Hartley moved from Texas in twenty twenty five to 556 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 7: work remotely in Spain. It's the people, the lifestyle, the 557 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 7: quality of life. 558 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: This April marks Okay, this story's making me very, very, 559 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: very jealous. 560 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Is it making you crave Paiea always? 561 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 7: This April marks one year since Jennifer Kemp applied for 562 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 7: a digital nomad visa to also live and work in Spain. Literally, 563 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 7: I live off of about twenty five percent of what 564 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 7: it would take for me to live in the States. 565 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: America is great. 566 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: Twenty five percent and you're surrounded by Vino Tinto and pie. 567 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: Come on, let's go. You think that woman's blown a 568 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: point to twenty four to seven. It's Spain. You're expected 569 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: to be drinking all the time. 570 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 9: America is great for maybe entrepreneur roalship, or they. 571 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: Have something called La Ra del Vermote where right after 572 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: church on Sunday you go have a vermoth. 573 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: Oh mine. 574 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 9: America is great for maybe entrepreneur roalship or making a 575 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 9: lot of money and your career. But I feel that 576 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 9: Europe and Spain in general is really good for the 577 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 9: work life balance. 578 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: Someone like herself as Siesta, I could tell it's a 579 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: real thing. Even in the city center in the middle 580 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: of Madrid. Everyone just kind of chills out in the 581 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: middle of the day. If you're working, you go home. 582 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: Now, if I lived in that kind of environment, I 583 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: wouldn't be very productive. Nope, but it's Europe. Nobody cares. 584 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 7: These stories are not unique and come at a moment 585 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 7: of slower growth in population nationwide. California and La County 586 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 7: actually saw a decline in population. In La County, there 587 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 7: was a drop of nearly fifty four thousand from July 588 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 7: twenty twenty four to July twenty twenty five, according to 589 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 7: US Census data. To give some perspective, that is little 590 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 7: under the seating capacity of Dodger Stadium. 591 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. Well, assuming there's a sellout. 592 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 7: Drops can mean losses. Back in twenty twenty, California's first 593 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 7: population decline in state history contributed to one less seat 594 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 7: in the House of Representatives. 595 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: And the twenty thirty census is going to be brutal 596 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: for California. It's going to be between three and five 597 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: and probably it's going to be more like four to five. 598 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 7: The state's Department of Finance tells US roughly half of 599 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 7: the outfit from La County in this latest data followed 600 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 7: the January wildfires in twenty twenty five. 601 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound good either. 602 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, half of the people who left La County left 603 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: because you burned their house down. 604 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Again, a complete indictment of the leadership of the political class. 605 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 7: Other factors include the search for more affordable housing and 606 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 7: stricter immigration policies. 607 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: I have some people in my program right now who 608 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 4: have been naturalized. They lived in the US for ten 609 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 4: years and they voluntarily left. 610 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 7: These are one of the many stories SHAWNA. Lumm is hearing. 611 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm the founder of move Overseas Now it is Mike. 612 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: Let me write that one down. I might need it. 613 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny back in the old days when 614 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 1: the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria were all coming over, 615 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: and then the Pilgrims came after them, Plymouth rock the 616 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: whole thing. The United States was becoming a country. All 617 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: the people with initiative in Europe decided, all right, there's 618 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: nothing for us here. Let's risk it all and go 619 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: to the United States and strike it rich. And now 620 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: all their lazy descendants are moving back. 621 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: It is my company where I help Americans relocate to 622 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: Europe and Latin America. 623 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 7: Originally from Los Angeles, she has lived overseas since twenty fifteen. 624 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 7: She says she has been seeing an uptick and calls 625 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 7: for herself. 626 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: And if you've got a pension and you can live anywhere, 627 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 2: why move to Texas when you can move to Costa Rica. 628 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: A lot of people are doing that. 629 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 7: Originally from Los Angeles, she has lived overseas since twenty fifteen. 630 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 7: She says she has been seeing an uptick and calls 631 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 7: for her services, including some free classes that led to 632 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 7: a survey among some clients. Out of more than two 633 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 7: hundred responses, quality of life, healthcare, and politics top the 634 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 7: list of why life. 635 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: Story situations like Hi, I'm an LGBTQIA. 636 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I think we're done. We're just out of time 637 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: him