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Robbie Suave, Robbie Suave, welcome. 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for stopping by. So, the big 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: political story nationally this cycle seems to be the rise 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: of the DSA. The DSA is has been able or 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: managed to win election after election, and Democratic primaries in 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: New York and Colorado certainly other states are expected to 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: follow suit. And right now there are a lot of 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Democratic political operatives in Washington, DC who are worried that 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: this is not a one off and that the Democratic 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: primary for president in twenty twenty eight could theoretically be 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: won by someone from that camp. Now, there was a 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: tweet that went out earlier today from Nate Silver, who 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: looks at numbers and voting patterns and those sorts of 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: things where reanalyzed just exactly where this movement is catching fire. 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: And one of the things that he put out was 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: that the most left wing people in America, the people 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: who are really receptive to the DSA message are people 45 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: with postgraduate degrees who are financially strapped. And just in 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: case you're wondering, the most right wing group on planet 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Earth are people without a four year college degree who 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: are rich. What do you make of that? And do 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: you think that's who is really causing the DSA to rise. 50 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I have been saying that for weeks now that 51 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: the DSA is an the least phenomenon they purport. And 52 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: it's so interesting because they claim their agenda is the 53 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: agenda of the working class, supported by the working class. 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: Of course they don't offer any coherent definition for who 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: is the working class, But if what you mean is plumbers, etc. No, 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: those people are going Republican every single time. They are 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: not enamored with socialism, let alone the explicit Marxist Leninism 58 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: that these figures who are winning represent. These people make 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: AOC look like Ronald Reagan. They can cite chapter and 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: verse from the Communist Manifesto that this is like very insidery, 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: academic y, jargony type socialism, which is not surprising when 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: you learn that mostly they are a kind of overly 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: credential elite people who go not just college degrees, but 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: graduate degrees, who are probably mired in debt because these 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: kinds of fancy diplomas cost tons of money, and then 66 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: are frustrated because there are no jobs for people who 67 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: get this sort of thing, or no jobs that require 68 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: this sort of degree. You can still get a job, 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 4: you're going to struggle to pay back the astronomical amount 70 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: of debt you took on, and you're not gonna feel 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: fulfilled because this is not a job that requires you 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: to be a have a you know, an advanced degree 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: in whatever grievance studies or privileged studies. And so they're 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: frustrated and they're lashing out of capitalism, which seems unfair 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: to me, like they hate they hate capitalism. They didn't 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: even try capitalism. They tried non capitalism and it didn't 77 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: work out very well for them. And you know, more's 78 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: the pity for. 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: A group that has a lot of college degrees. They 80 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: seem to be ignorant with their history. I don't know 81 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: if you saw this, but over the weekend, Hassan Piker 82 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: was speaking in front of the College Democrats. They were 83 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: having their big annual convention and he was the speaker 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: they chose, and he chose to use his time dressed 85 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: up like Mao trying to rehabilitate Mao's image. That seems 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: like an odd choice, given the fact that Mao killed 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: millions of people and destroyed economies and created a lot 88 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: of hunger and human misery. That of all of the 89 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: people that you want to put up on a pedestal, 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: that was who they chose to do it with. 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: Exactly. And I find it so funny when people will say, 92 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: you know, defenders of this will say, oh, socialism. 93 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: They just they just want to give more money to 94 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: poor people. They just want housing and childcare. Look at 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 5: what Zoronmmdanni is doing. I'm like a look at how 96 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: their thought leader is dressed. He's dressed in a Chairman 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: Mao uniform, quite literally. And then, if you want additional clarification, 98 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: when asked about Chairman Mao, he says he's a great guy. 99 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: I love him. 100 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 6: So it's not really very ambiguous at. 101 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: This point, is it. They are enamored with people who 102 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: who presided over millions tens of millions starving. Incidentally, I 103 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: guess they would say, and then also presided over political repression, 104 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: because that's the thing about socialism, and it's in the 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: DSA Handbook of you read it. They say everyone will 106 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: be provided housing, energy, transportation, food, et cetera. All your 107 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: needs will be met by the government. But the government 108 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: can't just you know, make food grow. People have to 109 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: like engage in agriculture. And if people don't engage in 110 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: agriculture normally in our system, they do it because they 111 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: trade what they make, they get money for it, and 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: they use the money to buy other things. That's how 113 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: capitalism functions and it makes people better off everywhere. But 114 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: their alternative system is the government provides es that the 115 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: government can't make these things, so instead the government must 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: force people to work for free, you know, allocate the 117 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: resources in the way they think. You try that system, 118 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: it doesn't work. It just fails every single time. But 119 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: that's in the DSA hand. But for what they'll do, 120 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: so we know exactly what these people want to do. 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: They want to preside over the exact same disasters that 122 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: have been deviled the Soviets, the Chinese, and literally every 123 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: other place on earth. 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Why do you think the Democrats, and by that I 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: mean just standard normal, run of the mill partisan democrats, 126 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: the ones who are losing to these people in the primaries, 127 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: they seem super hesitant to make the argument in favor 128 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: of capitalism. They seem almost apologetic about it, and they 129 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: don't want to have that conversation because I think they're 130 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: afraid of how their base will respond, how their primary 131 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: voters will respond. But I don't think that the Democratic 132 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: candidates can beat back these DSA candidates unless they get 133 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: down in the mud and they have the conversation as 134 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to why socialist and communist ideas are wrong and why 135 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: capitalism is what ultimately produces prosper. 136 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 4: I agree with you, and I think that's a point 137 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: that often and more loudly like it's clearly not working 138 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: to say no, no, no, I'm I'm really progressive too, I'm 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm. 140 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 6: I like the credit. 141 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: Primary voters who are lunatics by the way, are just 142 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: not persuaded by that. And and they're you know, they're 143 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: they want to they want to appoint the most radical 144 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: person in the room right now. And you know what 145 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: Republican primary problem too. They've settled on some unsavory candidates 146 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: every now and then, Uh, pro it's their best, but 147 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: right now, the dissatisfaction with the Democratic establishment, which I 148 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: understood their leadership failed horribly from their perspective, failed to 149 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 4: prevent Trump. Uh, you know, was lied to us all 150 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: about Joe Biden then foisted compl on all this. 151 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 6: I get it, but uh there the DSA. 152 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Is surgerent what they haven't shown though. 153 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 6: We can't lose heart because. 154 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: There's no evidence yet that these far. 155 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 6: Left socialist radical type. 156 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: People can win general elections. This is just primaries. So 157 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: these people could all go down, you know, not in 158 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: safe New York. 159 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 6: Daria Lisa Vila Chevalier will. 160 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: Be with us for the you know, for the future. 161 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: But if Abdul l Sied wins that primary, he might 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: lose the general in Michigan and so on and so forth. 163 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 6: You know, you're you're rocanna. 164 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: Can he be elected president? I don't know. So a 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: lot of Americans are still going to say no to 166 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: explicit hardcore socialism. It's just the question is where there 167 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: are enough people in the increasingly extremist Democratic Party base 168 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: will do that. I don't know. 169 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: I think the likely scenario is going to be that 170 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats nominate someone maybe even Kamala Harris, who does 171 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: not consider themselves to be a member of the DSA, 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: but they make concessions to the DSA, or enough concessions 173 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: to keep them happy and on board, which would be 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: a complete disase as for them, because you look at 175 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the positions that they're taking, where they want to abolish 176 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the prisons, they don't believe in a border they want 177 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: to defund or I guess eliminate ice and police departments 178 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and those sorts of things. They certainly want medicare for all. 179 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: That would be poison in a general election for a 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: DSA candidate or even a standard Democrat who plays foot 181 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: seat with that world. 182 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, no one has ever and this would be 183 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, advice to Democrats if they're going to listen 184 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: to me, which they won't. But take it from someone 185 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: who's engaged in a lot of debate and commentary with 186 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: people on the left. You know, I do a debate show. 187 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 6: I know people on the left. 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: I've seen them fight each other. 189 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 6: And my insight to you would. 190 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: Be, you will never get anywhere with the left. You 191 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: will never They will never accept you and love you 192 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: and treat you with and give you a goal, say 193 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 4: you're one of the good ones unless you are on 194 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 4: board with their agenda. In all ways, they are looking 195 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: for a reason to say no, this person is not 196 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: is not one of us. This person won't won't say 197 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: God is a genocide. This person will said that Israel 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: has a right to exist. They're out. They might as 199 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: well be Trump at that point, Like you can't. There's 200 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: really no compromising with these people. And I'm not even 201 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: trying to insult them by saying that, like they have 202 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: a clarity of purpose. They are not. They don't want normies, 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: they don't want sellouts, they don't want people who are 204 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: just pandering to them a little bit. They want fully 205 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: on board the whole agenda. Overthrow capitalism, replace the constitution, 206 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: abolish borders, abolish the police. Everything, it's everything or it's nothing. 207 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: They really they view it that way. And and there's 208 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: a you know, a purity to launching a political movement 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: around that and saying no, you have to be entirely 210 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: with us, or we want nothing to do with you. 211 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure that's the wrong strategy. It's something 212 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: about it is correct. But it's a lesson to Democrats 213 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: that we don't don't even engage this stuff. Have to 214 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: be against it full throated or join or join and 215 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: see where that gets you. 216 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: You live and work in Washington, d C. What is 217 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: the buzz right now about Gavin Newsom as a presidential candidate. 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I asked that because here he is knee deep in 219 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: scandal right now with his chief of staff who's cutting 220 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: a deal right now with the Feds over a corruption probe. 221 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: You have those associated with Javier Bessera, who is the 222 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: likely Democratic candidate to become the next governor of California, 223 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: who have cut deals with the Feds after it was 224 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: accused that they were stealing money from one of his 225 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: dormant campaign accounts. You now have a different investigation, apparently 226 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: courtesy of Galvin Newsom, who was the one who broke 227 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: the news on this, regarding his wife and non for 228 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: profits that may have been doing illegal things. That's not 229 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: good for him. And Gavin Newsom is also a guy 230 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: who's been trying to portray himself as the top foil 231 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, and right now I don't see that 232 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: as being a long term winning position for him. Given 233 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the fact that we're now just about halfway through the midterms, 234 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: some of the primaries I guess are still going on. 235 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's name will not be on the ballot. He's 236 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a lame duck president. Someone else will be representing the 237 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Republican Party, and it just seems like Gavin Newsom keeps 238 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: beating the same dead horse talking about yesterday's news, and 239 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: if you look at the palling right now, he's starting 240 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: to drop and Kamala Harris is starting to increase her 241 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: lead over Gavin Newsom. What's the buzz right now on Gavin? 242 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: That's interesting. Those scandals you mentioned, I am aware of them. 243 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: They have not really exploded onto the national political reporting scene. 244 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: I think even from even in conservative political circles they 245 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: still can. I think we're all very focused on the 246 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: midterms right now. You know, Kamala is doing right what 247 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: you describe like, she's meeting with left wing groups. She's 248 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: trying to get them to lessen their criticism of her. 249 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: And you know what, it may be given that they 250 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: don't like Gavin Newsom at all, Actually Gavin Newsom, nobody 251 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: who likes Keeff Newssom. I don't know. They maybe they 252 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: prefer Kamala and in some head to head matchup, she's 253 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: getting a little bit more left support. But I'm assuming 254 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: that in this you know, twenty twenty eight NAP presidential 255 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: Democratic primary environment, there's gonna be AOC and or Rocanna, 256 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: and they're getting all the left support between those two 257 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: or maybe they you know, they decided ahead of time 258 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: and it's just one of them, but whatever, the lefties 259 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: are going for them. So then it's Kamala and Gavin 260 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: and you know whoever else, two or three or other 261 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: people fighting for everyone else. And I don't know, you 262 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: you split that vote way too many ways, and then 263 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: you really open up a possibility for someone like an 264 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: AOC or a Rocana. I'm kind of actually believing more 265 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: in Rocanna's possibilities than AOC at this point. But but 266 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: maybe you don't have that, maybe you have a lot 267 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: of consolidation. Kamala could, I think, fade pretty rapidly when 268 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: she sees how hard a fight this is gonna be. 269 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: You know, she's she got the nomination by having a 270 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: given it to her. She's never done particularly well campaigning 271 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: for Democratic votes, So I don't know, I'm a little 272 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: I think Gavin is being a little underrated at this 273 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: point in terms of his likelihood of eventually getting the 274 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: nomination because he's done something that she hasn't managed to do, 275 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: which is talk to people in a normal way and 276 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: not come off so off putting but you know, Republicans 277 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: and maybe his critics within the Democratic Party will be 278 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: saidfastly reminding everyone of what that they don't like about 279 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: his governance, particularly during during COVID. 280 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: If Rocanna becomes the preferred candidate of the left and 281 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Gavin and Kamala get into this race, as we anticipate, 282 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: you would have three viable candidates who come from the 283 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: same part of the same state in the race. I 284 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: can't think of a time when that's happened before, can you. 285 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: Now. I mean, the closest thing to it is Hillary 286 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: Clinton and Trump both being New Yorkers of a kind, 287 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: although not as maybe tied to New York. As you're right, 288 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: those three people are to California, and even the same 289 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: part of California. It's going to be the Californication of 290 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: the entire election. I mean, that's going to be a factor. 291 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: Those three people are going to be three of the 292 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: four biggest names or three of the five biggest names 293 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: probably in the election. I mean, you know, it speaks 294 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: to possibly the importance of tech to our economy and 295 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: tech regulation and AI regulation in Silicon Valley, and those 296 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: issues dooming so large that you know, the people who've 297 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: had a hand in trying to grapple with them, wrote, 298 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 4: maybe Rocanna to a greater extent really does matter, and 299 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: at one point I rowe even had a lot of 300 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: credibility with tech people, I think before he went in 301 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 4: such a such a left left left direction. So that's 302 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: probably why it is, and you know, is not innately 303 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: a bad thing, although I will say that I think 304 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: all three of those people have some very not great 305 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: ideas about how to regulate tech and how to approach 306 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: the leaders of the tech community who are running for 307 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: their lives to get out of your state before the 308 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: remainder of their wealth is confiscated from them. 309 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine if Rocanna is the Democratic nominee, given 310 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he has support of the wealth confiscation 311 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: tax here in California, it would almost certainly advocate for 312 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: policies similar to that on the On a federal level, 313 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: You're going to end up with all of the heavy 314 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: hitters in Silicon Valley, his home district, including Elon Musk 315 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and David Sachs and Peter Teel and all of the 316 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: rest of them getting behind whomever the Republican candidate is, 317 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: and maybe even in a bigger way, than they got 318 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: behind Trump in the last election. 319 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I think they're going to get behind the 320 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: Republican candidate in a big way pretty much. Regardless, tech 321 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: has figured out that they're not welcome in the I mean, 322 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party would have to reorient its policies and 323 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: it's impossible comprehend a Democrat so reaching out to the degree, 324 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: which is an indictment of the whole strategy. Because if 325 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: you go back to the twenty tens, there were a 326 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: lot of tech supporters, supportive of the tech leader, supportive 327 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party. But that and there were Republicans 328 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: who want to break up big tech because they didn't 329 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 4: like how social media was treating conservative voices. But those 330 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: days feel pretty extremely behind us, right. I mean, the 331 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: tech leaders understand that Republicans are going to be for growth, 332 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: for beating China. It's not across the board. There are 333 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: Republican voters in a lot of states who want to 334 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: put limits on data centers and some other things. Of course, 335 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: there's a lot of Democratic voters who want to do 336 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: that too, but broadly speaking, red state governance and the 337 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: Trump administration is more favorable to the growth of their industry. 338 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: So they're going to spend massively to defeat whoever it is. 339 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: I don't if it's Rocana. Maybe they're all going to 340 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 4: move to Argentina as like a prophylactic measure to escape 341 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: the tax regime. But no, they're going to be in 342 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: the corner of You know, Advance is interesting, right because 343 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: he has one foot in the tech world, but then 344 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: is also kind of more of a populist anti His 345 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: economic ideas are a little heterodoxts for Republicans, even more 346 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: so than Trump's. But I predict he'll enjoy they'll their 347 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: support massively despite that. 348 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: Robbie Swab, senior editor at Reason and host of Rising 349 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: on the HILLTV. 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Right now, it's time to do an 385 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: update on a story that we brought you yesterday in 386 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the California Crime Bladder, specifically. 387 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: The yacht thief, the woman the sal Solito city manager 388 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: who only got the job three weeks ago, that had 389 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: a quote mental health episode that led her to try 390 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: to steal a. 391 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: Yacht, totally normal. We have some. 392 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: Updates on this. For more, let's go to a report 393 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: from ABC seven in the Bay Area, and we have. 394 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 7: New details today about the bizarre arrest of Saucelito's new 395 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 7: city manager over the weekend. Fifty three year old Elaine 396 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: Forbes is accused of trying to steal a yacht and 397 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 7: breaking into other vessels doing damage. ABC seven Eyewitness Now. 398 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: She turned herself into a pirate, that's what she did. 399 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: Without the bottle of rum. No, with the bottle of rum. Oh, 400 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: that's right, she stole all the alcohol from the yacht. 401 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 7: Yes, is reporter Cornell Bernard is live in Sasolito with 402 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 7: this story. 403 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 8: Cornell, Hey, I'm yeah. The arrest of sascileto city manager. 404 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 8: Has been the talk of the town and the yacht harbor. 405 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: Here there is sympathy and disbelief. A family spokesperson says 406 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 8: Elaine Forbes was having a metal health crisis. 407 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 9: She had the horn going, she had the win. She 408 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 9: adwait for going this spotlight going. 409 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Captain Bill Aubrey was there when sounds like me trying 410 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: to turn on a rental car, eh, Manager Elaine for 411 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I always expect yacht captains 412 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: to kind of have a Sammy Hagar vibe. And this 413 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: guy does not disappoint. He does prest it. 414 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 8: Early Saturday on board the sixty six foot Lisa Marie, 415 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 8: authority says she broke into the yacht and manipulated the 416 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 8: controls as if she was trying to steal it. 417 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: I'll break called. 418 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: Apparently you can book that yacht for private events. We 419 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: should do a listener party on that one. 420 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if when they took her to jail they 421 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: told her they were taking her to the Heartbreak Hotel. 422 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 8: Nine one one. When he discovered Forbes in the wheelhouse. 423 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 9: Told her and knowing certain circumstances, to get off the boat, 424 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 9: and then she looked at me with a smile on 425 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 9: her face and she said, good morning, but she's very friendly. 426 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 10: I came down here and the police met me at 427 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 10: the boat, and we went onto the boat and we discovered. 428 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Okay, if you've only been listening today, 429 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: you've got to get online to the video stream because 430 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: they're showing images of the damage that this woman did 431 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: to the yachts in the harbor and it is. 432 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 10: Special, unbelievable chaos and havoc on my boat. 433 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 8: Andy Cunningham says, this is the damage Forbes allegedly did 434 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 8: on board her vessel located on the same dock. 435 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: She came through the thing like a hurricane. It looks 436 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: like the dea was looking for drugs. 437 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 10: She took all of my clothes and she apparently tried 438 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 10: them on. I don't really know, but they were all 439 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 10: inside out. 440 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: Okay, do you wash those clothes and reuse them or 441 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: do you just get rid of them? I think you 442 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: got to burn everything. 443 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: So the crazy woman on the trying to steal a 444 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: yacht spree in the middle of all this had a 445 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: fashion show montage with Hollan Oates playing in the background 446 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: like she's in an eighties rom com. 447 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 10: There was a jar of Maraschino cherries on the counter 448 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 10: that she had opened and dumped half of them into 449 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 10: a shoe box. 450 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so this woman is certifiable. 451 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: Let me just rewind that again, because that those are 452 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: a combination of words that I did not expect to 453 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: see in my lifetime. 454 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 10: I don't really know, but they were all inside out. 455 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 10: There was a jar of Maraschino cherries on the counter 456 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 10: that she had opened and dumped half of them into 457 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 10: a shoe box. She had clear. 458 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: I guess she wasn't making old fashions after all. 459 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: Maybe she thought that if you put a bunch of 460 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: Maraschinos in a shoe box and let them sit in 461 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: a dark, cool place, they'll turn into luxardas. 462 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 10: Really drunk a whole lot of alcohol. 463 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh you don't say that's a shocker. 464 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 10: On the boat about four bottles of our wine. 465 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 8: The Marine County Sheriff's Department says a missing person's report 466 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 8: had been filed on Forbes Friday, just hours before her 467 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 8: arrest on thirty. 468 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: You think she's a cab girl or is this a 469 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: shardonay thing? I think she'll drink anything that poors. 470 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 8: First day the Sauceledo City Council approving a leave of 471 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 8: absence for Forbes, who had been on the job for 472 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 8: only three weeks. 473 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 474 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: How do you three weeks into a new job get 475 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: a proved for a leave of absence? 476 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, she's gonna need a long leave of absence because 477 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure where they're taking her, the guys with the 478 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: white coats, I mean, she's not going to be allowed 479 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: to do work on the outside lane. 480 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: Forbes, who is a highly respected public servant, had a 481 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: mental health crisis. 482 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 8: Family spokespirth, that's what we're calling it now, I guess 483 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 8: since Sam Singer said Forbes had been in the process 484 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 8: of a divorce from her longtime partner Angela Cavillo, clerk 485 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 8: of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. 486 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so now we're getting a little more insight into 487 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: the mental health episode. After the lesbian divorce, she went 488 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: on a bender. I want to see the Lifetime movie 489 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: for this. 490 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 8: Singer says. She was living near where her arrest took place. 491 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: She does, in fact, you know, have a and live 492 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: on a houseboat. So in her mental health crisis, she 493 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: may have believed that she was on her house bok, 494 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: but just didn't recognize it wasn't hers. 495 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, who was it that did that? Was that 496 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: Robert Downey Junior. We're ever going to lift that one down. 497 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: He broke into someone's house thinking it was his, and 498 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: then crawled into bed with some woman. 499 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: That guy is the epitome of Look how great your 500 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: life can be when you get sober. 501 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 8: Forbes is the former director of the Port of San Francisco. 502 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 8: She resigned her post after nine years last September, giving 503 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 8: this reason. 504 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 11: I'm tired. I want a job with fewer than two 505 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 11: hundred and eighty employees. I don't want to run aport 506 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 11: city anymore. But I sure did these last nine years, and. 507 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to be a pirate. Okay, you could 508 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: tell she was crazy back then. We'll bet. 509 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 8: City of Susledo said, what do you. 510 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Think the ex wife thinks about all this? That she 511 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: made the right decision? A dumper because. 512 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 8: Its thoughts are with Elaine Forbes. She remains in the 513 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 8: Marine County Jail. She's scheduled to be a rain Tuesday 514 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: Morning with Love and Solito tonight. Cornel Bernard, ABC seven 515 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 8: Eyewitness News. 516 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: So there you go. 517 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: That is the update to the crazy lady who tried 518 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: to steal a yacht in Marin County. 519 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: If she was this crazy, maybe the ex wife is 520 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: going to go back to men. 521 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Listener Kenny writes in I would love a shoebox full 522 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: of luxjarados. I wonder if we're going to get any 523 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: more updates this week and this story. It is the 524 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: most fascinating thing to come out of the crime blodder 525 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: in weeks and weeks and weeks. 526 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that she lives on a boat, because I 527 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of guys that live on boats, 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's very common among women, is it. 529 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Well, this is a gender equity world. Women can be 530 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: anything they want to be. If they want to be 531 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: divorced people living on boats, they can do that too. 532 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: There's an old Roseanne bar joke about this where she goes. 533 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: You know why men like to be the drivers of 534 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: the car and the captains of the boat. It's because 535 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: of the maps. Men are much better at reading maps 536 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: than women, because only a man can look at an 537 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: inch and see one hundred miles. If you're watching us 538 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: on YouTube, hit that like button. We're over two hundred, 539 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: and that is fantastic, but we'd like to get that 540 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: number as high as possible. All Right, There's been a 541 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of controversy lately about whether or not let us 542 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: it's going to make you run to the toilet. Taco 543 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: Bell got blamed, but Randy, they may have been maligned unfairly. 544 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Taco Bell. 545 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: They cause all kinds of gastrointestinal problems. But apparently it's 546 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: not the culprit, nor is the lettuce from Taylor Farms 547 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: because the FDA had a false positive. 548 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: Wait, they said the lettuce ad COVID. 549 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 2: For mar on the lettuce journey here is Fox eleven 550 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. 551 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 12: Hey is walking back claims that the lettuce sample from 552 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 12: California based Taylor Farms tested positive or cyclospore up, the 553 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 12: parasitic infection that causes explosive diarrhea. 554 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Officials are now odd. 555 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: This is why you have there. You have to get 556 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: paid a certain amount of salary to be a news 557 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: professional like Glenn Walker. There's no way I could do 558 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: that read with a straight face. 559 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: No, no, neither one of us could. 560 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 12: Saying it was a false positive. But they have not 561 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 12: cleared Taylor Farms as the likely source of the outbreak. 562 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 12: Fox eleven's Christie has the story. 563 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 13: An admission of a mistake and an apology is what 564 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 13: Taylor Farm says it got from the FDA over the weekend. 565 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 13: The agency now. 566 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: How many people have burned all of their lettuce and 567 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: to realize, oh, it's not the lettuce. 568 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: It's good for the spinach industry. 569 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 13: Oh says it retested and reviewed an iceberg lettuce sample 570 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 13: from a farm in central Mexico it had linked to 571 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 13: a cyclosairiasis outbreak, and realized the earlier tests had produced 572 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 13: a false positive. Even so, the company, which voluntarily recalled 573 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 13: lettuce from the region, is not abandoning the recall. 574 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 14: The FDA did report that there there was a false 575 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 14: positive over the weekend, but this afternoon they said that 576 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 14: they were standing firmly by this recall because public health 577 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 14: safety is built on actually two things. We want to 578 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 14: make sure that there's real world detective work as well 579 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 14: as lab data. 580 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: The chlorus bor of parents. 581 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: So we're going to stick with the recall anyway, just 582 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: in case. 583 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 13: Beside is believed to have sickened thousands of people across 584 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 13: the kind, with states like Michigan being the hardest. 585 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: Hit. 586 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: Wait, that's real close to where I am. That's just 587 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: on the other side of Lake Ontario. It hasn't spread 588 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: out to Canada, has it? 589 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: God? I hope not. Yeah, don't worry. I'm not needing 590 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: any lettuce. 591 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: We made sure that you know it doesn't have lettuce 592 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: poutine and I'll be drowning in it. 593 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 13: After the show, Gia says it has likely linked I'll 594 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 13: break two Taylor Firm shred of lettuce used at Taco 595 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 13: Bells in five states. 596 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those things where nobody blinked 597 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: an eye, nobody for a second when they heard that 598 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: this was Taco Bell. We're like, no, there's no way. 599 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: You immediately sim of course it's Taco Bell. 600 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: Isn't that normally the expectation when you go to Taco Bell. 601 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: There is definitely a working assumption that if you're in 602 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: that drive thru, you will be spending some time on 603 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: the turlet later. 604 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 13: And still believes the source could have come from Central Mexico. 605 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 13: At that the agency continues to work with Taylor Farms 606 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 13: to find the root of the outbreak. 607 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: By the way, apparently the only thing that's Mexican and 608 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: the Mexican food at Taco Bell is the lettuce. 609 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, if they're trying to find the root 610 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: of the problem, they should have Kamala Harris figure it 611 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: out because that's her specialty. 612 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 13: And get possible contaminated products off the market and is 613 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 13: recommending restaurants and consumers check Taylor Farms produce sold at 614 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 13: Walmart under the market Side brand to make sure they 615 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 13: are not part. 616 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: Of yet another thing that no one's going to bat 617 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: an eye at. Watch out for the pre bagged lettuce. 618 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: You buy it Walmart. 619 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that Joe Biden and the Pope had 620 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: dinner at Taco Bell before their meeting. 621 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 13: Part of the recall. 622 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 14: We have a lot of control on the produce that 623 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 14: we are buying and how we are washing our produce, 624 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 14: so I would say stay away from again shredded lettuce. Snap. 625 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: It's a good time to invest in a salad spinner. 626 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 14: Folks, raspberries, green onions, and basically any untreated water as well. 627 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 13: The parasitic infection is not generally considered fatal, but can 628 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 13: cause what's described as explosive diarrhea. 629 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Oh they did it again. 630 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: You have to be a very professional broadcaster to do 631 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: that In one take and not start giggling. 632 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Okay, imagine because the public health people are the ones 633 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that are putting this out there. Right, just wait until 634 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: there's an outbreak in Los Angeles and Barbara Ferrara has 635 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: to use that terminology. Oh I don't even want to 636 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: think about it. 637 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 5: No, thank you. 638 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: In fact, listener, where is it? Why? Just there's so 639 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: many chats coming in. 640 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 2: JJ Jarith writes in there will be toileting after Taco bell. 641 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: Where's my toileting? Drop? Let meload this on the wall. 642 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: Here it is. 643 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: I haven't loaded on the home wall yet. Here we 644 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: go drops twenty twenty for rare. 645 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: Do I have it? 646 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't have toileting here. You're not gonna have to 647 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: deal with that. How lucky are you? I forgot to 648 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: upload it to the home computer, weed to hospitalization. 649 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 13: The FDA now says it hasn't had a single positive 650 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 13: sample to pinpoint a specific source, but continues. 651 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: Also not good news that now we have no idea 652 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 2: where the cyclist spora is coming from. 653 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: It could be anything. It could be Chipotle. 654 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 13: It's investigation. 655 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 14: Maybe there are multiple different outbreaks and we don't exactly 656 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 14: don't have a source. So it's really hard to know 657 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 14: how long we should take precautions, but I would say 658 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 14: the safest thing we can do is make sure we 659 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 14: are cooking our vegetables. 660 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 13: Chrissy Bojardo, Fox Love News. 661 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: You heard that, start baking your lettuce? Who cooks lettuce? 662 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: Good question? So that is the latest. 663 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: All you need to know is we don't know what 664 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: it is yet, but it's probably not the lettuce at 665 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: Taco Bell, So go nuts with your Mexican pizza. 666 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: You know. I have never been a fan of Iceberg 667 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: lettuce because it has no taste. It has no nutritional content. 668 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: If given the option, if I'm making a salad, I 669 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: always choose spinach or maybe romaine lettuce something like that, 670 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: but at least that has a taste to it. There's 671 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: no taste to Iceberg lettuce. 672 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: It's just straight up filler, and they put it on 673 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 2: all kinds of things that they don't need to put 674 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: it on. You order a plate of enchiladas, here's a 675 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 2: little pile of lettuce on the side. 676 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 4: What for? 677 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I think people like the fact 678 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: that it's crunchy, but really, so are the chips in 679 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: the bowl. You want something crunchy, eat some of. 680 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 2: Those listener Jim writes in at YouTube, the lettuce must 681 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 2: have been baptized in the Tijuana River. 682 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: You call. 683 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: So. 684 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we've spent a lot of time on 685 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: this today. But Katie Porter apparently came out and gave 686 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: some Richard Dixon type of speech where she said, you 687 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: won't have Katie Porter to kick around anymore. She is 688 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: done with politics. She's going to be a full time 689 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: book talker. Now, do you believe her? 690 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: No, if she sees an angle, if she sees a 691 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: lane to run in in twenty twenty eight, for whatever 692 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: is available, you don't think she's gonna go for that. 693 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: You think she's gonna sit there and be happy at UCI. No, no, no, no, no. 694 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: She needs the attention and we need her too. 695 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, if Katie makes a comeback, that would make 696 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: our year in twenty There is. 697 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 13: No substitute to standing here and smelling it and seeing 698 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 13: it yourself. 699 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: I mean losing her and losing Shang right around the 700 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: same time. The loss is unbearable. You know Shang might 701 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: make a. 702 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 14: Comeback, absolutely absolutely. 703 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: Because that trial is supposed to start in October and 704 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: we will be covering it all right, that's going to 705 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: do it for us today, but we'll be back tomorrow 706 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: at noon for another edition of The John Phillips Show.