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Speaker 1: And very happy Wednesday to you.

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Speaker 2: At twelve oh seven in the West, it's the John

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Speaker 2: at Phillips Show.

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Speaker 1: Mister Randy Waings in Culver City.

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Speaker 3: John, the California legislature has one day to negotiate any

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Speaker 3: November ballot propositions off the ballot, and it's pushing us

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Speaker 3: to this very bizarre situation where Karen Best tells Conan

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Speaker 3: Noan that hey, the Save Prop thirteen Act is going away,

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Speaker 3: and the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association says, no, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not, and that back and forth had been going on

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Speaker 2: all day yesterday and neither side is given an inch.

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Speaker 2: Karen Bass says the deal is done. John Coopaul says,

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Speaker 2: no way know how Later today we're going to have

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Speaker 2: Susan Shelley from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association here at

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Speaker 2: one point thirty to directly address the controversy.

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Speaker 3: That is great, because I don't think HJA ti giving in.

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Speaker 3: But I was very confused by Karen Bess so confidently saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's going to be off the ballot come tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let's get help for you in a one party state.

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Speaker 2: I think she's just used to getting what she wants

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Speaker 2: and the fact that in this particular case, the Howard

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Speaker 2: Jarvis Taxpayers Association has all the cards is something that

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Speaker 2: she's not used to.

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Speaker 1: It's not a namsey pamsy thing.

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Speaker 2: So Susan Shelley will be here at one point thirty

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Speaker 2: to address all of this, So make sure you stick

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Speaker 2: our primary here in California earlier in the month, but

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Speaker 2: not everyone has voted yet. We know that Maine voted

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Speaker 2: the week after US That's how Graham Platner was able

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Speaker 2: last night they had the primary election in the Empire State,

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Speaker 2: the state of New York, and oh boy, was in

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Speaker 2: a good night for the Democratic Socialists of America and

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Speaker 2: New York City Mayor Zoron Mamdani, who went three for

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Speaker 2: them defeated Democratic incumbents, longtime Democratic incumbents, including Adriano S. Ballad,

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Speaker 2: who was not just an incumbent congressman, but he was

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Speaker 2: who is one of the impeachment managers from New York.

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Speaker 2: He was also defeated by a socialist candidate and then

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Speaker 2: he won a third one. So it was a hat

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Speaker 2: trick last night for Zoron Mamdani. And all of this

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Speaker 2: Donnie's election where he beat it beat a former Democratic governor,

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Speaker 2: There is a socialist who is the mayor of Chicago,

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Speaker 2: the third largest city in the United States. Seattle has

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Speaker 2: elected a socialist mayor. And here in Los Angeles, we

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Speaker 2: Nitia Rahman, the DSA candidate for mayor city councilwoman, is

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Speaker 2: all of this, the DSA counts members and various state legislators,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, as I sat there this morning, drinking

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Speaker 2: a couple of things came to mind. First and foremost,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats made a huge mistake allowing the DSA into

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Speaker 2: their party. We may have suspicions that Democrats are not capitalists,

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Speaker 2: but at least publicly, they claimed to be. Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 2: That's what they say that they are. Socialists are not capitalists.

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Speaker 2: They're anti capitalists. They believe the government should own the

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Speaker 2: They created a monster because they thought the monster would

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Speaker 2: It's like owning a house and squatters move into the garage,

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Speaker 2: And they let the squatters stay in the garage, Well,

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Speaker 2: that if their people, you know, are certifiable, if you

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Speaker 2: And this has been done before. Barry Goldwater, there's a

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Speaker 2: sixty four, brought the Republican Party to the right. The

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Speaker 2: the John Birch Society. They were the ones who were

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Speaker 2: running around saying that Dwight Eisenhower was a puppet of

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Speaker 1: And at that time.

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Speaker 2: The leaders in the movement realized, we cannot have anything.

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Speaker 2: We are going to scare the women and children if

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Speaker 1: And William F.

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Speaker 2: Buckley and National Review and that whole crowd made it

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Speaker 2: it worked, and of course the John Burt Society was

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Speaker 1: You don't want that. So it is possible to resist.

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Speaker 2: The urge to make the tent bigger by excluding the

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Speaker 2: the Republicans. But this time around the Democrats decided that

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Speaker 2: This is our party. You're old, you're a boomer. It's

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Speaker 2: they have no identity. They don't right now, the identity

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Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party is we hate Trump period, end

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Speaker 2: of story. What else do you stand for? We hate

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Speaker 2: Trump period? Okay, what's the third part of your platform?

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Speaker 2: We hate Trump period. And they believe that that's good enough

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Speaker 2: instead of saying that, he said, damn this Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Look what he's done to our country. Trump arrangement syndrome

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Speaker 2: the DSA thinks about the cops.

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Speaker 1: Defund the cops.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you what the DSA thinks about the border,

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Speaker 2: open it up. I can tell you what DSA thinks

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Speaker 2: about billionaires. They shouldn't be legal. I can tell you

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Speaker 2: what DSA thinks about Texas Jakoba. I can tell you

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Speaker 2: what DSA thinks about evictions. There shouldn't be any such thing.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you what the DSA thinks about grocery stores.

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Speaker 2: The government should own them. But if I were to

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Speaker 2: even you political junkies out there probably wouldn't have answers

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Speaker 2: only thing they talk about is that they hate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Look at these people, even here in California. Candidates for

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Speaker 2: to do if elected, I'm going to abolish ice. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to impeach Donald Trump. I'm going to expand the

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Speaker 2: Supreme gourd well as it so happens. If you sit

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Speaker 2: those things. But that's what they run on, which means

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Speaker 2: they stand for nothing. You have no clue what these

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Speaker 2: Why because they haven't told you. The only thing they

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Speaker 4: November, California voters decide on making it tougher to pass

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Speaker 2: It's called the Local Taxpayer Protection Act.

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Speaker 1: Our state leaders.

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Speaker 5: How this could impact local government budgets? Now, the Local

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's also become a system where unions, much

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Speaker 1: And just think about it.

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Speaker 2: If the SEIU is successful with this wealth confiscation tax,

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Speaker 3: You'll see in twenty twenty eight a billionaire confiscation tax

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Speaker 2: Get that money, and then the parks, and then water

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Speaker 1: It's an act.

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Speaker 5: series of court decisions that the HJTA felt undermined California's

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Speaker 5: nearly fifty year old property tax law, known as Proposition thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Lawmakers and the governor tried to get Capal and the

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Speaker 5: HJTA to take this off the ballot.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Coodie is Dana.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Gavin Newsom is playing without a quarterback right now,

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Speaker 2: because while he gallivanted around the globe on his book tour,

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Speaker 2: campaigning for Grampy Joe, campaigning for Kamala Harris, recording various podcasts.

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Speaker 2: The acting governor was Dana Williamson, and she would sit

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Speaker 2: in the watch tower and observe everything going on in Sacramento,

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Speaker 2: and the moment that someone did something that she didn't like,

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Speaker 2: she would erupt with fury and would prevent them from

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Speaker 2: even collecting signatures for something like, oh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: the billionaire confiscation text.

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Speaker 1: She tried to do that with Prop thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Unsuccessful there, but how many times was she successful at

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Speaker 2: keeping these initiatives off the ballot And the fact that

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Speaker 2: she wasn't there left Gavin Newsome without an enforcer, and

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Speaker 2: because he wasn't minding the store.

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Speaker 1: When the cats away, the mice will play.

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Speaker 5: Offering to change state law on real estate transfer taxes.

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Speaker 5: Capaul says he and the group are not backing down

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Speaker 5: and had this message for voters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think our message is extraordinarily simple. Makes it

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Speaker 4: harder to raise taxes. That's it makes it harder to

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Speaker 4: raise taxes at the local level. And if you want

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Speaker 4: to elaborate, we could say makes it.

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Speaker 3: This thing might have the same margins as Prop thirty six.

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Speaker 3: It's possible because people have had except for the County

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Speaker 3: of La so many of those sales tax increases up

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Speaker 3: and down the state of California, including the parcel tax

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Speaker 3: increase in Oakland, of all places, failed. What's so weird

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Speaker 3: is that San Francisco is now decidedly to the right

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Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, and this last election proved that that's

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Speaker 3: not changing anytime soon. I'm going to need this live

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Speaker 3: video stream to be very successful because if I don't

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Speaker 3: get that condo that I want in San Francisco in

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Speaker 3: the next couple of years, the real estate market's going

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Speaker 3: to price me out.

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Speaker 4: Order to raise taxes at the local level by closing

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Speaker 4: two loopholes in Prop thirteen. Very simple, straightforward message, and

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: In this moment of taxation, I mean both at the state.

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Speaker 5: And muncal level. I mean, how do you imagine I mean,

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Speaker 5: the pressure from lawmakers to try to negotiate with you, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you guys got to really spring for a second laugh,

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Speaker 3: mic I mean, Ashley is a star. It's not like

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Speaker 3: your background producer that's asking questions and you don't want

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Speaker 3: them miked.

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Speaker 1: We want Ashley micd.

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Speaker 5: Supporters of your measure mean, do you feel like the

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Speaker 5: pressure is certainly on because people are likely going to

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Speaker 5: want to.

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Speaker 2: Side with you.

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think one of the things we

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Speaker 4: do is for any local community, we just say, if

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Speaker 4: they're pushing back and saying our initiative is too draconian,

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Speaker 4: look at their budget five years ago and look at

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Speaker 4: their budget today, and then ask the question, where is

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Speaker 4: that money going?

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Speaker 3: You have got great question, and the answer is frequently

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Speaker 3: it's going to developers, and it's going to NGOs in

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Speaker 3: money laundering schemes. Gavin Newsom, when he first became governor,

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Speaker 3: presided over a budget that was around two hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Seven years later, the budget is three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: billion dollars. How exactly did that happen.

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Speaker 2: When the level of services is decidedly worse.

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Speaker 4: And local government revenues and state government revenue is increasing

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Speaker 4: at rates much faster than population and inflation.

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Speaker 3: There was record revenues in California this year, to the

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Speaker 3: point where Prop ninety eight kicked in and the school's

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Speaker 3: got more money than they've ever gotten before. Yet everybody's

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Speaker 3: broke and there's declining enrollment.

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Speaker 2: It's not why they have more kids, they have fewer kids.

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Speaker 4: And it's coming in. California is a tax producing machine.

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Speaker 4: Highest income tax rate in America thirteen point three percent,

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Speaker 4: highest state sales tax rate in America seven point twenty five.

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Speaker 4: That's even before the local add ons.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now that the measure er has passed in the

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Speaker 3: County of Los Angeles, the cities of Palmdale and Lancaster

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Speaker 3: in the Analope Valley that already had a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of local tax increases from years past, will have And

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Speaker 3: this is true, the highest sales tax of any city

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Speaker 3: in the country.

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Speaker 4: Wild highest gas tax, and even with Prop thirteen, we

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Speaker 4: rank eighteen out of fifty states in per capital property

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Speaker 4: tax collections. Even with property taxes were not a low

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Speaker 4: property tax.

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Speaker 1: State we reached.

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Speaker 3: Now, go to Texas if you want to see what

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Speaker 3: a high property tax state is like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they afford it there.

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Speaker 3: Well, you don't pay income tax, but it is a

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Speaker 3: lot and Texas homes are big, and you're paying by

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Speaker 3: that square footage. Well, it's a huge bill that you

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Speaker 3: get once a year. It's massive. When my in laws

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Speaker 3: showed me what they were paying, I was shocked. Apparently

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Speaker 3: it's really bad in New York State too. Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: oh tay.

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Speaker 5: Governor Gavin Newsom's office and the office of Assembly Speaker

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Speaker 5: Robert Reeves and Senate President pro Tem Monique Lyman. We

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Speaker 5: are still waiting to hear back from the three of them.

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass today seemed confident that this

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Speaker 5: is coming off the ballot because there are still a

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Speaker 5: couple of days left for them to negotiate. The Secretary

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Speaker 5: of State must certify the ballot initiatives that voters will

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Speaker 5: see in November by this upcoming Thursday, so there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of time left. I'm hearing just from other sources

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Speaker 5: that Capol is facing a lot of political pressure, but

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Speaker 5: at this point he's not backing down.

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Speaker 2: Why would he, well, think about it, There are probably,

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Speaker 2: and we've seen this before with elected Republicans in Sacramento,

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Speaker 2: there are Republicans who are in the caucus for the

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Speaker 2: State Assembly and the State Senate who effectively work for

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Speaker 2: the Democrats. Because if you're the super minority, you don't

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Speaker 2: even have a say on the budget. You only get

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Speaker 2: the crumbs that the Democrats throw to you. And if

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Speaker 2: you want the nice offices, if you want invitations to

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Speaker 2: the nice parties with the open bars, if you want

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Speaker 2: to go on the junkets, if you want all of

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Speaker 2: the perks that come with elected office.

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Speaker 1: If you're.

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Speaker 2: On the end with the in crowd, you have to

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Speaker 2: do them a solid once in a while. So I wonder,

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Speaker 2: and I'll ask Susan Shelley this question. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: they're getting pressure from elected Republicans in Sacramento under the

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Speaker 2: radar to drop this thing, because it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: Karen Bass is pressuring them. She has no control over

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Speaker 2: the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. It doesn't matter if Galvin

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Speaker 2: Newsom is pressuring them, he has no leverage over them either.

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Speaker 2: But there are Republicans in the legislature that the Jarvis

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Speaker 2: Association does work with, and moderate Democrats. There still are

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Speaker 2: a couple up there who could put pressure on them

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Speaker 2: to do something like this. And I wonder if those

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Speaker 2: are the back channels that Bass and company are going

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Speaker 2: through to try to get them to pull this from

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Speaker 2: the ballot.

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Speaker 3: Seems to be a very strong minded about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Ashley thing.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. We'll find out in less than

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours if the Save Prop thirteen Act is

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Speaker 3: going on the November ballot and all signs except for

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Speaker 3: Karen Bess point two.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's the John Phillips Show. It's the John Phillips Show.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred two to two two five two two two

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Speaker 2: is telephone number one eight hundred two two two five

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Speaker 2: two two two. If you'd like to email the show,

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Speaker 2: you can do so at Johnny don't like show at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com. That's Johnny, don't like show at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com. All right, we've got a couple of phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Dan in Sonoma.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Hello, hey John.

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Speaker 6: Regarding the Democrats socialists that are taking over the party,

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Speaker 6: a couple comments on it. The first is that I've

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Speaker 6: always considered these people the political offspring of people like

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Speaker 6: Nancy Pelosi and the late Harry Reid and so forth.

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Speaker 6: They're getting progressively worse. But the bigger question is why

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Speaker 6: do so many young people follow old fossils like Bernie

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Speaker 6: Sanders and all that. If you remember the twenty sixteen election,

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Speaker 6: his rallies, the number is rival Donald Trump. He had

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Speaker 6: tens of thousands of people just like Trump did. Where

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Speaker 6: does this come from? The education system? The education system

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Speaker 6: is preaching and promoting the so called virtues of socialism,

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Speaker 6: and that the education system is needed to be gutted

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Speaker 6: for the longest time because if it isn't, this will

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Speaker 6: continue until our end.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: And it's not even just what they're teaching them, but

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Speaker 2: many of these people are graduating from very expensive universities,

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Speaker 2: in very heavy debt, with degrees that they cannot use.

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Speaker 2: So if you are starting your working life with six

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Speaker 2: figures in debt with a degree in gender studies, and

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Speaker 2: you have AI and technology that is drastically changing the economy,

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Speaker 2: changing the way that we live, You're never going to

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Speaker 2: be able to afford to buy house, You're never going

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Speaker 2: to be able to accumulate wealth, You're never going to

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Speaker 2: be able to have the capital to start a business.

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Speaker 2: It's just not something that you're going to be able

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Speaker 2: to do. And I think that there is a level

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Speaker 2: of resentment that exists among that population, and this is

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Speaker 2: how they're taking it out on the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: They're voting for these wack a doodle candidates who want

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Speaker 2: to tax us into oblivion because they resent the fact

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Speaker 2: that we own homes, they resent the fact that we

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Speaker 2: have degrees that are useful or skills that are useful,

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Speaker 2: because they're never going to have it.

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Speaker 6: Well, just like Lennon when he took over Russia back

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Speaker 6: a century ago. All he did was make promises the

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Speaker 6: workers paradise, We're going to make things better for you.

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Speaker 6: He had no idea or no intention to fulfill those promises.

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Speaker 6: These DSA people are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thank you for the call, sir. We've got

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Speaker 2: two more hours to go on the John Phillips Show.

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Speaker 2: The Fixed California Hour is next. Kira Davis joins us,

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Speaker 2: and then we're also going to hear from Susan Shelley

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Speaker 2: from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association to find out if,

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Speaker 2: in fact they are cutting a deal with Karen Bass

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Speaker 2: and the governor to pull their initiative from the ballot.

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Speaker 1: Don't you go Anywhere,