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Speaker 2: Leader back on Sports Phone KNBR with Bill Laski on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday night. A couple of text messages came in

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are asking who is he

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Speaker 2: going to pee compete against Bill, who has won Sanchez competition.

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Speaker 2: And I think it really comes down to the health

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Speaker 2: of Eric Miller. Eric Miller's throwing the live hitters. He

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Speaker 2: had a stiff back, It's worked it out. Now he's

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Speaker 2: going to start throwing in some of these spring training

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Speaker 2: games still two weeks to ramp up. I think he's

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Speaker 2: probably your number one reliever in a setup role or

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Speaker 2: as a left hand closer. I still believe they could

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Speaker 2: do that if there was an opportunity a lefty lefty.

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Speaker 2: Then you look at Matt Gage, who originally signed with

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco Giants. They picked him up last year.

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Speaker 2: He really threw some bulk innings July and August where

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Speaker 2: he really threw extremely well. September he started giving it

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Speaker 2: up a little bit. You look at Carson wizen Hunt.

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Speaker 2: Is Carson wizen Hunt really a reliever or is he

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Speaker 2: your future starter? That's a name that's kind of intrigues me.

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Speaker 2: Could he fit into bullpin? I just don't know if

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Speaker 2: they're going to give up a top prospect, especially a

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Speaker 2: where he really doesn't have that experience. Then it comes

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Speaker 2: on to Juan Sanchez. Here's a kid that was signed

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Speaker 2: at seventeen years old and now he's worked his way

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Speaker 2: up to it. But he's opening eyes up because he

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Speaker 2: does throw strikes, throws hard, and he's healthy, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's the key. But then what happened today. Joey Lecasey,

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Speaker 2: who was pitched very well for the Giants last year,

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Speaker 2: ends up coming back. So it tells me I think

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Speaker 2: there's some question marks in that bullpen. From the left side,

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Speaker 2: here's Joey Lcasey, who was really sitting as a free agent.

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Speaker 2: They could have used him under arbitration. They got rid

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Speaker 2: of him, didn't go anywhere else. Standing outside is more

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Speaker 2: like a free agent. They went back and signed him.

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Speaker 2: Now he's in spring training, so there are some concerns

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Speaker 2: on that left hand side of the bullpen. Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I can't wait to talk to my next

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Speaker 2: guest because he's gonna be the guy that's gonna tell

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Speaker 2: me who he thinks is going to be in the

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Speaker 2: left hand bullpen along with all these other questions, because

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Speaker 2: he's my answer. Guy to die coming up right now.

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Speaker 2: You can see him on Twitter or x at Baseball

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Speaker 2: Jeff number one. I've talked to him all the time. Great,

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Speaker 2: great insight on the giants, the minor leagues. Let's bring

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Speaker 2: in Jeff Young. Jeff, how are you tonight?

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Speaker 3: Hey Bill, thanks for that introduction. I'm being wow. How

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Speaker 3: are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Well, I figure you're gonna give me the answers. You're

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Speaker 2: the answer man. You're here in all those meetings with

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Speaker 2: your ears understanding what the giants are going to do. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll try and I'll try and fake it for

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but yeah, sure.

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Speaker 2: Boy. There's a lot of decisions going to be made here,

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Speaker 2: Jeff of they're going to make a cut here probably tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the younger players that had dreams of

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Speaker 2: some competition and I'm sure you heard Maria Gardago Guardago.

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Speaker 2: She put out what she thought was going to make

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Speaker 2: the infield the outfield a catching position, and I kind

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Speaker 2: of want to go through that with you one more time.

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Speaker 2: And I think the biggest one is the catcher position,

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Speaker 2: after Patrick Bailey, Is it Sussac? Is it has is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just feel like it's going to

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Speaker 3: be Daniel Susak. He's probably the best defensive you're out

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Speaker 3: of the three that you mentioned. Eric hass has some power,

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Speaker 2: Jeff, let me ask you this. He was a Rule

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Speaker 2: five player from the Athletics. The Minnesota Twins picked him

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Speaker 2: up and then the Giants traded for him. Now, if

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Speaker 2: the Giants, if he doesn't make the roster coming out

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Speaker 2: of spring training, what team does he go back to?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little confusing with the rule five rules.

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Speaker 2: The A's all the way back to the Athletics from

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Speaker 2: And then with Has, I've talked about Eric Has many times,

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Speaker 2: several times. He knows the role, he's got power. They're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're just trying to see if there's

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Speaker 3: He does have experience in alfield, so it's not a

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Speaker 3: tough task and one that should tran I mean, in

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Speaker 2: The other one is he's Us Rodriguez. They played him

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Speaker 2: a little bit. He didn't really catch that much in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed him last year and his biggest line was, Bill,

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Speaker 2: I can hit. There's nobody that I can I can't hit.

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Speaker 2: I can hit anybody. I really believe it. Now watching

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he really got a hold of that one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta love the confidence. And this is

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Speaker 3: So I think that's where the Giants hope that he

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Speaker 2: He's got a good arm. I just think I just

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Speaker 2: don't see him as a backup catcher. I think you're

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Speaker 2: absolutely right the same thing I feel. I think Susacks

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Speaker 2: But he's catching big league pitchers, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And also given the fact that the Giants did

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Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, this is the first time you and I

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Speaker 2: are talking and when we're talking about players different positions,

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Speaker 2: and I never got your intake on Lewis Arrise coming in.

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Speaker 2: He wants to play second base. Ron Washington there's helping him.

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Speaker 2: But when you're looking at a three time batting champ,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he is going to fill in that hole

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that he's going to be your lead

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm laying. And I think

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Speaker 3: the debate right now right is between him and Jungle Lee,

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean Luis Rice can just come

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Speaker 2: You here on sports phone, kmere, my good friend Jeff Young,

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Speaker 2: as we kind of dissect on what we believe and

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Speaker 2: we're both talking about it. What could happen for this

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six roster, And let's go over to first base.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Rafael Devers hasn't got a hit yet this spring, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: Which does that concern you? Because it doesn't concern me

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Speaker 2: have to hit. But playing first base is going to

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Speaker 2: be intriguing. In my mind, he was a good third

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Speaker 2: I don't feel it's going to be a big hole

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Speaker 2: for him. I just feel he's going to be more

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Speaker 2: It's really going to his right. Where does he go?

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Speaker 2: Jeff, of course, the fourth outfield position, boyle boy, this

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Speaker 2: Well, you look at the designated here to position and

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Speaker 2: The defense has definitely played better. I believe he's more

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Speaker 2: So you two two utility positions most likely will go

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Speaker 2: Jeffy Young joining me for a few more minutes on

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Speaker 2: sports phone KMBR. You can follow him at Baseball Jeff

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Speaker 2: Foghorn does a great job covering the Giants. There a

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Speaker 2: And if you follow Jeff not just through spring training,

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Speaker 2: a lot of information from him. Jeff, you do a

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Speaker 2: fantastic job. How much time do you do working on

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Speaker 3: I have no idea passion, so don't I don't really

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Speaker 2: Well, you do a fantastic job. Let's go to the

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Speaker 2: coming out of the bullpen. It looks like the starters

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Speaker 2: are pretty set. When you look at Logan Webb, Robbie Ray,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Mayley, Adrian Hauser and Land and Roop, those five

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Speaker 2: look like they're etched in. There's no injuries. They're starting

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Speaker 2: to push him out a little bit. I think land

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Speaker 2: and Roop's the guy that's really going to have a

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Speaker 2: good year. Who do you think in five? What do

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Speaker 2: you like the best?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've always liked landon Rope, even even

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Speaker 3: when he was a minor leaguer. I just feel like

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Speaker 3: there's a major league arm there. You know, he's got

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Speaker 3: a good sinker of the curveballs really good. The change

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Speaker 3: ship has developed. I'm intrigued by Tyler Malley. You know,

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Speaker 3: when he's healthy, he's a very effective pitcher. Health is

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Speaker 3: a big question mark. He's only made twenty four starts

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Speaker 3: over the past three years, some of that due to

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Speaker 3: tell me, John surgery. So he's an intriguing guy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of outside there, but there's you know, there,

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Speaker 3: there's a there's a durability issue or a durability question mark,

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Speaker 3: Like how many starts is getting to be going to

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Speaker 3: make this year? If he gives you twenty five starts,

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Speaker 3: I think that's great, but I don't know if that's

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Speaker 3: something the Giants should be expecting.

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Speaker 2: Well, the same thing with Adrian Houser. He had a

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Speaker 2: great here with the White Sox and he got traded

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Speaker 2: and he scuffled a little bit. I think he's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of insight too. He's got some nasty pitches

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Speaker 2: as a starting pitcher too. I'm intrigued in how they

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Speaker 2: use both of those guys in these first you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks because there's so many days off.

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Speaker 2: Do you think and this is a question for you,

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Speaker 2: You know, with Logan Web starting that Wednesday game, his

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Speaker 2: next start would be that following Monday against the Padres,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna miss a couple of these guys. What do

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Speaker 2: you think they're going to do there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they could skip a spot in the

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Speaker 3: in the first turn in the rotation, whether it's somebody

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Speaker 3: like Lennon Rup or Charlie Like. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: what direction they go there, but that that's that could

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Speaker 3: be an option for them, and then use that person

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Speaker 3: as like a piggyback pitcher in one of those starts

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Speaker 3: so that they're not pitching, you know, a full start,

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Speaker 3: but still getting their work in, so that that could

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Speaker 3: be an option. My guess is, you know, the the

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Speaker 3: pitchers are on a schedule. They probably don't want to

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Speaker 3: disrupt that schedule. So I kind of feel like they're

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Speaker 3: gonna stick with that. And if you know, Logan Wubbile

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Speaker 3: pitch the sixth game of the year and then they'll

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Speaker 3: just kind of stick with that schedule, then.

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Speaker 2: You start looking at the next layer down. Carson Seymour

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Speaker 2: could be one of your starters to fill in that

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Speaker 2: sixth spot. I really believe Carson wizen Hut's going to

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Speaker 2: be a starting pitcher. I just don't think they're going

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Speaker 2: to put him in a bullpen. And then you start

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Speaker 2: looking at, you know, a couple other younger names Blade Tidwell,

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Speaker 2: who's really struggled at the big league camp. Do you

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Speaker 2: think those three guys are really your next option for

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Speaker 2: starting pitchers? Oh?

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Speaker 3: If I was betting right now, i'd probably say Trevor

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Speaker 3: McDonald as the next man out if when an injury happens.

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Speaker 3: He's looked good this spring. He looked good at the

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Speaker 3: end of last season. I think you know, the way

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Speaker 3: he finished the year, it raised the question of why

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Speaker 3: why didn't the Giants get him a longer look, he

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Speaker 3: only pitched fifteen innings. So he's looked good this spring.

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Speaker 4: He's got a good pitch mix, he's still on the

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Speaker 4: younger thought, he's got pretty good control, and you know,

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Speaker 4: he's probably positioned himself to be.

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Speaker 3: The next man out if if an injury pops up.

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Speaker 3: So I think those guys you mentioned with and Hunt tidwell,

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Speaker 3: uh there they'll probably and Carson Seymour will probably be

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Speaker 3: in the mix as well. But right now, I think, uh,

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Speaker 3: in terms of death, I think McDonald's probably the sixth

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Speaker 3: option at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That voice you hear is Jeff Young on sportsphone KMBR.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to the hard parts right now

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Speaker 2: and dissecting his bullpen Jeff Ryan Walker your closer? Is

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Speaker 2: that a yes or no?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'd say he's probably their closer at this point.

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Speaker 2: Going from the left side, Eric Miller, Matt Gage, Juan Sanchez,

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Speaker 2: and I still think Joey the case. He's got a

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Speaker 2: chance I really do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think pretty much any pitch who's in camp

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Speaker 3: right now as a chance to make the bullpen. So

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Speaker 3: Lukesey included. He had a nice he had a nice

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Speaker 3: season last year. Eric Miller and Matt Age. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty good left side of the bullpen. Some

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Speaker 3: of that will depend on how healthy Miller is to

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Speaker 3: start the year. I know he's supposed to throw this week,

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Speaker 3: but you know, he hasn't He hasn't actually appeared in

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Speaker 3: a Cactus League game yet, and there's about two weeks

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Speaker 3: ago before the season begins. So Luke Casey could be

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Speaker 3: in the mix. One Sanchez. I just Sanchez isn't on

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Speaker 3: the forty man roster at the moment, so I feel

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Speaker 3: like that's kind of a hard, you know thing. He

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Speaker 3: could be an option, but that that's that's just kind

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Speaker 3: of a tough battle to overcome right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially coming off of TJ and he you know,

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Speaker 2: he ended up throwing fall ball last year. I think

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Speaker 2: they got to push him a little bit of triple

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Speaker 2: A to see how that arm is going to react

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Speaker 2: and length and and how many months. But he's a

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Speaker 2: great option. He's got some wipeout stuff.

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Speaker 3: He does, and he you know, he's He's had a

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Speaker 3: pretty good career in the minors. I know the Giants

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Speaker 3: were really excited about him a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: and then he had the Tommy John surgery and what

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Speaker 3: you know, it took a couple of years for him

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Speaker 3: to recover from that. He looked good in the fall

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Speaker 3: in Arizona Fall League. I think he had a two

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Speaker 3: point seven year in about the pen innings or so.

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing this off the top of my head,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, good fastball change up. Next, the fastball sits

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Speaker 3: in the mid nineties, good change up too.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at the right side. You got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of names, Keaton, Wynn, Hayden, Bird Song, who hit

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Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour today was unbelievable. JT. Brubaker,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Killian, Tristan Beck, Will Bennar, Jose Budo, Spencer Bivens,

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Speaker 2: Michael Folmer, Gregory Santos. Boy, they got some arms. They

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Speaker 2: got to figure out what the hell they're going to

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Speaker 2: do with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you asked them today what they

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Speaker 3: were going to do, they probably would just want to

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Speaker 3: see the camp kind of play. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: there's a been ad answer today on March tenth. But

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Speaker 3: some of the names you mentioned, JT. Brew Baker, Jose

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Speaker 3: bo both of those guys are in their contract. I

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Speaker 3: think brew Baker with tender a contract in the offseason,

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Speaker 3: so I'm fairly certain he's gonna make the team. Jose

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Speaker 3: Buto is out of options. He'll probably make the team

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Speaker 3: as well. After that, it gets a little, it gets

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Speaker 3: a little klaudia. I mean, great, Gray Santos is thrown

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Speaker 3: a you know, showing a hundred mile hour fastball. That's

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Speaker 3: pretty intriguing. Michael Folmer's had a good spring. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the overpowering stuff anymore, but you know he's performed well.

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Speaker 3: And Tony Boitelo has some prior connections to him. And

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Speaker 3: then yeah, I mean it's after that, it's pretty open.

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Speaker 3: Keaton win Is, I'm glad you brought him up because

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Speaker 3: you know, he's put together a pretty nice spring. He

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Speaker 3: had a in some sense, he had a good finish

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Speaker 3: the last season with the Giants, and he's somebody he

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Speaker 3: just he has really good stuff and injuries have gotten

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Speaker 3: in the way, and I just it'd been ice if

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Speaker 3: the Giants can find a way to find a role

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Speaker 3: for him. I know they have lightly talked about him

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Speaker 3: as being a starter, but I just feel like that's

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Speaker 3: going to be too tough on his arm. And if

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Speaker 3: that's not the case, he you know, there's upside for

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Speaker 3: him to become a pretty nice reliver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about picking that fourth outfielder, we talk

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Speaker 2: about the backup catching role, and now we talk about

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Speaker 2: the bullpen. These are all going to be questioned, marks

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Speaker 2: Jeff as we figure it out on March tenth, And

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Speaker 2: got to figure it out here because March twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: coming right around the corner, and I think you hit

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Speaker 2: it right out of the head. I don't think they

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Speaker 2: know yet. And it's all about competition, correct.

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, thanks so much, a great time talking to you.

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Speaker 2: I love talking baseball with you. You do a great

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Speaker 2: job on your podcast as well as what you do

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Speaker 2: on X and again, it's always a pleasure talking baseball

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Speaker 2: with you. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks to all. The pleasure is all mine.

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Speaker 2: That was Jeff Young. We're going to take a quick

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Speaker 2: break on sports phone kne br bringing up my good

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Speaker 2: friend and boy, oh boy, it's gonna be a fun

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Speaker 2: time talking to Irwin Hagarris. That's gonna come up next

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Speaker 2: right here on k and BR, The Sports Leader