WEBVTT - Getting Young People Interested In Voting

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks away from the end of election season. And

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<v Speaker 3>as of today, in the state of California, 8% of

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<v Speaker 3>Californians have voted early and sent in their ballot. 92%

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<v Speaker 3>of Californians have yet to fill out the ballot and

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<v Speaker 3>send it in despite it getting mailed to them two

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. And if you break down those demographics by age,

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<v Speaker 3>it gets a little worse. Because the elderly out there,

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<v Speaker 3>65 plus, 19% have voted already of that group. 9%

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<v Speaker 3>of people in the 55-64s. 35-49s at 4%. And young people,

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<v Speaker 3>the voters that are always trying to get reached out to, 3%

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<v Speaker 3>of people 18 to 34 have participated so far in

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<v Speaker 3>this election. So what do we do about that? Our

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<v Speaker 3>next guest is the vice chair of the LA County

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<v Speaker 3>Young Republicans. You can get them at LAC underscore YR

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<v Speaker 3>on X, and you can follow her on X at

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<v Speaker 3>Austin Mocker for CA. Ariana Austin Mocker, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Randy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Ariana, first tell us about your organization and how

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<v Speaker 3>you got into politics and specifically this world. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the LA County young Republicans is a young professional

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<v Speaker 2>organization for 18 to 40 year olds with a political spin.

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<v Speaker 2>We bring people together for social, uh, professional and political activism.

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<v Speaker 2>So whatever you're looking for, we're trying to bring like-minded

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<v Speaker 2>people together. You don't have to be registered Republican. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're just fed up with the one party rule business

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<v Speaker 2>as usual that we face here in LA County, we

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<v Speaker 2>are welcoming you to come out and join us.

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<v Speaker 3>And what is your organization do to get young people

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<v Speaker 3>to want to do the very simple thing of paying

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<v Speaker 3>attention to what's going on around them and how they

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<v Speaker 3>can change things?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. So we start out with the most simple form

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<v Speaker 2>of recruitment, which is social. So we have monthly mixers.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next mixer is actually this Thursday in Pasadena. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find out the details on any of our social

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<v Speaker 2>media platforms at LAC underscore YR. They are free to attend.

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<v Speaker 2>You come out, you get to meet like-minded individuals and

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<v Speaker 2>build a community. I think first and foremost, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>young people are looking for, especially when you live in

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<v Speaker 2>a place like Los Angeles, or you might work in

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<v Speaker 2>an industry where being conservative or being Republican is not popular,

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<v Speaker 2>we provide that place for you. And then once people

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<v Speaker 2>start getting engaged, we then have other avenues for them

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<v Speaker 2>to participate in. We do a lot of professional networking,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with College Republicans, Turning Point, getting people to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in LA County and not flee to other states like

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and Florida. And then we do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>political activism. Last weekend, we were just door knocking in

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Clarita and the Antelope Valley to protect some incredible

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<v Speaker 2>candidates up there. We do statewide deployments. We provide hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We provide gas reimbursements, meals. So we make it affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>And all we're asking for is your time. And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>we lean into the messaging that right now, the decisions

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<v Speaker 2>and the votes that you are casting is setting you

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<v Speaker 2>up for the future of what you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>paying for in the long run. And so we try

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<v Speaker 2>to explain that to people. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of young people who are fed up and tired and

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a change. And that's what we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>offer to them.

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<v Speaker 3>In your opinion, when you have these mixers and you

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<v Speaker 3>talk to people, maybe it's people, it's their first time voting,

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<v Speaker 3>their first time paying attention to what's going on. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they just got to the age where they can vote.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you say are, for the young people out

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<v Speaker 3>there that go to your events that are in your circles,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the most important issues to them in this election?

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<v Speaker 2>The number one issue, hands down, with Gen Z and

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<v Speaker 2>even millennials is cost of living. Affordability across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we're talking about the paycheck and the taxes being

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<v Speaker 2>taken out, whether we're talking about the cost of rent,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of utilities, we're talking about the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>groceries and gas. Everybody is struggling. And so for us,

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<v Speaker 2>having those conversations and making sure people understand the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between the federal government and the state government is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats in California like to blame Trump for what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here, but it is clear as day, Trump does

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<v Speaker 2>not run California. Democrats run California. Democrats run Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>County and Los Angeles City, and they have for 10, 20,

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<v Speaker 2>30 years. And so people who are struggling need to

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<v Speaker 2>understand that difference. And that's the biggest issue that we

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<v Speaker 2>help them start to come to terms with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you talk about affordability gas prices is definitely

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that everyone thinks about as a,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in LA County, we're looking at some stations

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<v Speaker 3>where it's $ 7 a gallon and only going up and

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<v Speaker 3>Javier Becerra, one of the candidates running for governor was

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<v Speaker 3>asked about that, asked about, you know, uh, things that

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<v Speaker 3>his opponent, Steve Hilton wants to do, including. getting rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the gas tax and cap and trade where we're

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<v Speaker 3>subsidizing the high speed rail. And his answer was, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't do that. The reason the gas prices are

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<v Speaker 3>high is because of the war in Iran. And while

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<v Speaker 3>that is true, There's nothing the governor of California can

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<v Speaker 3>do about that. And even besides that, gas prices are

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<v Speaker 3>still $ 2 on average higher here than our neighboring states

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<v Speaker 3>or even places like Hawaii. And that's something that people,

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<v Speaker 3>especially young people, have to stretch and deal with every

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<v Speaker 3>single week.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed. We have current Republican legislators like Senator Tony Strickland,

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<v Speaker 2>who have asked multiple times for our Democrat legislature and

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<v Speaker 2>for the governor to suspend the gas tax to help

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<v Speaker 2>out the wallets of the people who are paying at

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<v Speaker 2>the pump. And they continuously say no. They don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>that people are commuting, people are driving. In a place

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<v Speaker 2>like Los Angeles, it is not possible to... to survive

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<v Speaker 2>on public transit. So to be able to try to

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<v Speaker 2>defer and blame Trump again and again, you said it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>We have $ 2 more expensive gas than Hawaii. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is not President Trump. The problem is our state legislature

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<v Speaker 2>who is making these decisions and punishing Californians for their choices.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, Javier Becerra says, well, we can't get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of the gas tax because how do we pay

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<v Speaker 3>for our immaculate roads? One, the roads are not immaculate.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a mess even with the gas tax. And two,

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<v Speaker 3>the gas tax only raises about $ 8 billion. The state's

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<v Speaker 3>budget is $ 350 billion. You're telling me there's nowhere else

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<v Speaker 3>in the state's budget we could find time to close

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<v Speaker 3>down the 405 every other week to pave those lanes?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure we could stop putting money to the

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<v Speaker 2>bullet train nowhere and supply funds to fix our roads there.

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<v Speaker 2>Two very different transportation issues. One that Californians need, the

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<v Speaker 2>other we don't need.

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<v Speaker 3>We're speaking with Arianna Ossenmacher. She is the vice chair

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<v Speaker 3>of L.A. County Young Republicans, getting young kids to pay

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<v Speaker 3>attention to what's going on and vote. I got to

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<v Speaker 3>pick your brain on this because it's something that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with as well. The people in your organization, the

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<v Speaker 3>people that you talk to, the people that go to

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<v Speaker 3>your events, how are they feeling about this L.A. mayor's race?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it is unfortunate. Had our primary been a

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<v Speaker 2>different scenario and we had Spencer Pratt on the ballot

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<v Speaker 2>this time around, I think it would be clear as

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<v Speaker 2>day for people. But again, we're going back to the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation of one party rule. They've made it legal over

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<v Speaker 2>the last 10 to 15 years for what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>our primary. So we have two bad options. But that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean we stay home. That doesn't mean you skip

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<v Speaker 2>the race and you don't vote for mayor. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty clear Karen Bass is a bad choice. But

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<v Speaker 2>we know what we're getting with Karen Bass. I personally

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<v Speaker 2>could never bring myself to vote for a DSA candidate

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<v Speaker 2>like Nithya Raman. The jeopardy that we put our city in,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the lives of Jewish people in L.A.,

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<v Speaker 2>is just it's incoherent. And I would never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we are encouraging our members. to vote for

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Bass, encouraging those that feel like they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a choice to stick with what we know. It is

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<v Speaker 2>an unfortunate choice, but it's better than the alternative.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is the draw that so many

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<v Speaker 3>young people are turning to the DSA these days? That

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<v Speaker 3>there is this boost of support among young people for

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<v Speaker 3>somebody like Nithya Raman. Is it a generational thing, or

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think is the draw there? Something that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you're trying to fight against every day.

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<v Speaker 2>To a point, I do think it's ideology. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to speak to Nithya Raman, but to speak to

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<v Speaker 2>what Mom Donnie has done in New York, He makes

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<v Speaker 2>promises as it relates to cost of living, affordability, utilities, groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>He's offering these ideas that sound wonderful, especially for young

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<v Speaker 2>people who have grown up being told if you work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go to school, you're going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to afford the American dream. And currently that is not

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<v Speaker 2>possible in Los Angeles. I mean, I still have to

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<v Speaker 2>rent here. I'm not able to buy a home. So

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<v Speaker 2>ideas sound great. The disconnect for the DSA is actual application.

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<v Speaker 2>The ideas that they want to apply are not realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't offer free health care, free housing, free groceries

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<v Speaker 2>to all of these people in these large urban areas.

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<v Speaker 2>the money that comes from behind, it's not free. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is paying the bill at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>And that ends up being taxpayers, people who work hard

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<v Speaker 2>to actually provide for their families and set themselves up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think the idea sounds great to young people.

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<v Speaker 2>They're frustrated. They're angry. They can't afford anything. But what

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<v Speaker 2>we need to do as Republicans and what I think

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Hilton is doing wonderfully and what Spencer Pratt did

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<v Speaker 2>really well was change the messaging, change the narrative, speak

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<v Speaker 2>to the frustrations that people are feeling, and then hit

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<v Speaker 2>home with policy that actually changes that.

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<v Speaker 3>It is one of the things that is wild to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that things get very tribalistic out here and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what happens nationally, people pay attention to more

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<v Speaker 3>than what's going on locally. But if you just looked

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<v Speaker 3>at these two gubernatorial candidates based on the policies that

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<v Speaker 3>they're putting out there and Hilton has been going up

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<v Speaker 3>and down the state, $ 3 gas, cut your electric bills

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<v Speaker 3>in half. Here's how we can do it. The other

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<v Speaker 3>States can do it. Javier Becerra doesn't really have anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. And he's still up by 20 points. It

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<v Speaker 3>is just, it is baffling.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll say this. We do live in a voter registration disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the thing to keep in mind. But polling

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<v Speaker 2>isn't all of it. Early voting opens this weekend. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we know, conservatives, Republicans and even independents tend to

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<v Speaker 2>start to vote in person, especially those that are concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about vote by mail and what we've seen over the

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<v Speaker 2>last six years. So my hope is that with early

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<v Speaker 2>voting opening this Saturday, October 24th, people will start going

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<v Speaker 2>out and voting in person. We can't play catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>We need people to show up. We need them to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>If we want to make these races closer, if we

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it competitive, and if we want to

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<v Speaker 2>make Democrats start to actually change their policies and not

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<v Speaker 2>continue on with business as normal, then Republicans need to

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<v Speaker 2>vote higher than 14% or 20% in an election. And

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<v Speaker 2>to that point, young people need to start showing up

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<v Speaker 2>more than the 3% that have voted so far.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you say to people out there? They got

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<v Speaker 3>their ballot and they're not really that excited about filling

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<v Speaker 3>it out. Maybe it's because there's not that many good options.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they think the deck is stacked against them in registration.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some people that think that there's something shady

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<v Speaker 3>going on What would you say to the people that

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<v Speaker 3>aren't sure they're going to fill out their ballot this season?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that that's a huge mistake. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a midterm and we need to prove

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>County GOP, the Republican Party here, has done an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>job providing a custom voter guide. If you go to VoteDifferentLA.com,

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<v Speaker 2>you type in your address and And it spits out

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<v Speaker 2>a voter guide that'll match exactly on your ballot with

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<v Speaker 2>endorsed Republican candidates and recommended Democrat or independent candidates. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's giving you the best option, even in those races

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't feel like you have a good choice in.

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<v Speaker 2>This is backed research. These are thoroughly vetted. And we

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<v Speaker 2>want people to make sure they vote to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they have an option. I will also say, If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell me that your voice doesn't matter or

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<v Speaker 2>your vote doesn't matter, we had a state Senate seat

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<v Speaker 2>that represents over 1 million constituents in California determined by

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<v Speaker 2>12 votes four years ago. That to me tells me

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<v Speaker 2>that my vote matters, that if a race that close

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<v Speaker 2>overseeing that many people can be determined by 12 votes,

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<v Speaker 2>that means that I need to do my due diligence

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<v Speaker 2>and I need to show up and I need to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>And that needs to be the message to everybody. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>our future is on the ballot right now. And, and

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<v Speaker 2>it requires you to show up and participate. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't participate, you don't get to complain.

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<v Speaker 3>Ariana Asenmacher, vice chair of the Los Angeles County Young Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find out all of their monthly events and

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<v Speaker 3>you can join and maybe meet some people. IRL, as

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<v Speaker 3>the kids say, LAC underscore YR. You can follow her

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<v Speaker 3>on X and Asenmacher4CA. Ariana, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>spending some time with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Randy. I hope you have a great day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Randy Wang here on The John Phillips Show. Johnny's

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<v Speaker 3>on vacation, but we're having a good old time here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Randy Wang, and we've got the chat room open,

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<v Speaker 3>having a blast at johnnydontlike.com. You never know who's going

0:16:09.190 --> 0:16:10.950
<v Speaker 3>to be in there. Jeff Vaughn popped in for a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. Somebody just popped in, asked if I would

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<v Speaker 3>sign their PGP shirt, which, boy, that throws me back.

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<v Speaker 3>So for many, many years, back when podcasting was cool

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<v Speaker 3>and just the new kids were doing it, I hosted

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast called The Pretty Good Podcast with my old

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<v Speaker 3>friend Gina Grad, and that's so cool that someone's in

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<v Speaker 3>the chat room that remembers that show because that thing

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<v Speaker 3>went off the air over a decade ago when we

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<v Speaker 3>got too busy to do it because I was working

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<v Speaker 3>all the time over here and she was working on

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<v Speaker 3>the Adam Carolla show. Anyway, that makes me happy. Although

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really glad that I took all those episodes off

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<v Speaker 3>the air because, boy, did I say a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing stuff on that show. Also... I'm not sure because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember things perfectly because I did a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of smoking pot in those days. But I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I used to have Shang's tick when I hosted that

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<v Speaker 3>show at the ripe old age of 23. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I used to respond to things with absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. So I can't have that anywhere out

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<v Speaker 3>there on the internets. I am so excited. We're 30

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<v Speaker 3>minutes away from the premiere of our latest episode of

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<v Speaker 3>the accountability podcast, accountability, accountability, accountability. And this one has

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<v Speaker 3>been a long time coming. It was our gift to

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<v Speaker 3>you for helping us get to 5,000 subscribers, which is

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<v Speaker 3>wild because now we're almost at 10,000 subscribers. But a

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks ago, John Phillips and I went down to

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<v Speaker 3>Imperial beach at the Southern tip of San Diego County

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<v Speaker 3>and to the Tijuana River Valley.

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<v Speaker 4>You can smell it right here.

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<v Speaker 3>We were joined by our friend Mike Netter, as well

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<v Speaker 3>as some people who are locals in the area, including

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<v Speaker 3>the mayor of Imperial Beach, who are trying to do

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<v Speaker 3>something about the rotting stench that is coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>Tijuana into this beautiful, gorgeous beach town. That very special

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<v Speaker 3>episode of the Accountability Podcast premieres today at 2.59. So

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<v Speaker 3>our on-demand videos is like seven minutes, which is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>And our average viewing time for the live show is

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<v Speaker 3>25 minutes, which is very good. And we want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep those higher and higher and higher. Look, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other stuff out there to watch and listen to.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've seen most of it. Our stuff's the best.

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<v Speaker 3>So watch all we got at johnnydontlike.com. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>personally invite you to join us next Friday from noon

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<v Speaker 3>to three in San Francisco in Union Square at Johnny

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<v Speaker 3>Foley's Irish Pub. We're going to be broadcasting from there

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<v Speaker 3>as we take over the spot from noon to 3,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll have a lot of special guests, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of great Bay Area guests that I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever even met most of these people in person. And

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be there with our friend Susan Shelley,

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<v Speaker 3>who I've met in person many times, as we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Prop 43, the Local Taxpayer Protection Act. Here's what

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<v Speaker 3>we need you to do. First, if you want a

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<v Speaker 3>free yard sign, go to yeson43. com. But anyone that you

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<v Speaker 3>know that hasn't voted yet, if they're confused about these propositions,

0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.830
<v Speaker 3>let them know. A yes on 43 means it's harder

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<v Speaker 3>to raise your taxes. That's a message we can all

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<v Speaker 3>get behind, and we'll be spreading that message far and

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<v Speaker 3>wide at Johnny Foley's in Union Square in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Get by the BART, get there by Muni, take the ferry,

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<v Speaker 3>take a Waymo. We'd love to see you next Friday

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<v Speaker 3>from noon to three. And then on Tuesday, November 3rd,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like a week and a half away, election

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<v Speaker 3>wait for that. We got a half hour to go,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've got a wild story out of San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>for you, so stay with us on The John Phillips Show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's The John Phillips Show. Johnny's on vacation. He'll be

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<v Speaker 3>back on Monday. So it's Randy Wang here, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>got company. I've got the whole chat room with me.

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<v Speaker 3>do you get to see us, see the videos as

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<v Speaker 3>Almost at 10,000. And yes, we have more than John Cobalt.

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<v Speaker 3>So that makes me feel good. JohnnyDon'tLike.com Let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco for a completely insane story. San Francisco... has

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of improvements, but there are certain neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 3>that are still a mess. The Tenderloin, Soma, the Mission.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the problems that we have in parts

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<v Speaker 3>of San Francisco is open-air drug use. And even though

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<v Speaker 3>that technically still is illegal, we don't have the will

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<v Speaker 3>to actually do something about that. So the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>Board of Supervisors has a new idea. Well, if we

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<v Speaker 3>can't stop them from smoking fentanyl and meth, what if

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<v Speaker 3>we banned the butane lighters that they were using to

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<v Speaker 3>smoke the fentanyl and meth? Because the butane lighters that

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<v Speaker 3>the drug users use, well, they have locks on them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when they pass out, They can start fires.

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<v Speaker 3>For more on this insanity, we go to ABC7 in

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<v Speaker 3>the Bay Area and one of my favorite reporters, Leanne Melendez.

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<v Speaker 5>A growing fire danger on San Francisco streets is prompting

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<v Speaker 5>city leaders to take action.

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<v Speaker 2>Supervisors are considering a ban on the sale of powerful

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<v Speaker 2>butane torches, the locked lighters commonly used by some unhoused residents. ABC7,

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<v Speaker 2>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget banning the drugs... Let's ban the lighters. Which is

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<v Speaker 3>also interesting because aren't we still passing out the pipes?

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<v Speaker 3>I know Lurie says we're not, but they still kind

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<v Speaker 3>of are. That's like giving somebody crab legs and not

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<v Speaker 3>giving them a cruncher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, because these lighters have a lock feature, the

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<v Speaker 1>flame stays on continuously. So think about that for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>because people can pass out after using drugs or simply

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<v Speaker 1>misuse them. San Francisco could be the first city in

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<v Speaker 1>the country to ban not all of them, just the

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<v Speaker 1>cheap plastic lockable ones that, as you will see here,

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<v Speaker 1>are abundant in places like the Tenderloin.

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco, which earlier this year looked at trying to

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<v Speaker 3>ban Whippets... is now looking to ban butane lighters because

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be a lot harder for the meth heads to

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<v Speaker 3>melt their meth in the county-funded pipe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just another day in San Francisco's Tenderloin neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>as we searched for that one device used to heat fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get my big one out, I'll show you.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no shortage of people who were more than

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<v Speaker 1>willing to show us their butane lighters. Not just one,

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<v Speaker 1>but many. They are dangerous. They are cheap. They're available

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<v Speaker 1>at corner liquor stores, and now fire officials want them banned.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>When and why did people out here switch from a

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<v Speaker 1>simple Bic lighter to a high-intensity torch?

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like something you're going to weld with.

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<v Speaker 1>The fire department says people started buying these in 2020.

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<v Speaker 1>And since then, that number has grown exponentially. The reason?

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<v Speaker 1>Why use them?

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<v Speaker 6>To light up and heat up stuff like on bongs

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stuff. That's what it is. Just stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what everybody usually does.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they quick?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>They get hotter than regular lighters.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Mesereau says he doesn't use fentanyl. He has other

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<v Speaker 1>uses for these lockable butane lighters. He had several on hand,

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<v Speaker 1>but the locks were broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to ban the ones that are locked. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's show people here. See this little device here, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could explain what that is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so this is a lock right here. So when

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<v Speaker 6>you light the torch, basically, we had to jumpstart this one.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just what's going on every single day during

0:25:32.220 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 3>daylight hours in this neighborhood. I said it before. The

0:25:36.540 --> 0:25:38.780
<v Speaker 3>rest of the city's not like this, but the fact

0:25:38.820 --> 0:25:41.470
<v Speaker 3>that part of the city is like this is still

0:25:41.550 --> 0:25:45.330
<v Speaker 3>and always will be unacceptable. Okay.

0:25:45.810 --> 0:25:48.260
<v Speaker 6>Well, this one, this one, the lock's broken on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>When his friend handed him another one, Dylan surprised us

0:25:52.470 --> 0:25:56.379
<v Speaker 1>with a different torch attached to a propane canister.

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<v Speaker 6>You even got things like this right here. We use

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<v Speaker 6>big torches.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, boy. Does that take me back? So, they have

0:26:05.380 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the handheld butane torches, but they also have a full-blown

0:26:10.100 --> 0:26:16.670
<v Speaker 3>mini camping propane tank torch, and... Let's just say that

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<v Speaker 3>even in my idiotic 10 years as a pot smoker,

0:26:21.020 --> 0:26:26.140
<v Speaker 3>I had one of those. Because when I talk about

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.580
<v Speaker 3>this now, as like a full-blown adult, I'm embarrassed. But,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, you might think, especially if you were only

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.700
<v Speaker 3>a pot smoker in the 70s or 80s or 90s, that, yeah,

0:26:36.780 --> 0:26:39.100
<v Speaker 3>all you would have is a little pipe, maybe a bong,

0:26:39.140 --> 0:26:43.699
<v Speaker 3>and a brown bit could do it all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:26:45.340 --> 0:26:50.379
<v Speaker 3>My dumbass pot friends, including Adam Macadocious, would get us

0:26:50.460 --> 0:26:54.290
<v Speaker 3>into doing nail hits because it wasn't enough just to

0:26:54.420 --> 0:26:58.209
<v Speaker 3>smoke the grass. It wasn't just enough to crunch up

0:26:58.270 --> 0:27:01.350
<v Speaker 3>the weed and put it in and maybe get a

0:27:01.390 --> 0:27:02.230
<v Speaker 3>nice bud going.

0:27:02.290 --> 0:27:02.870
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

0:27:02.910 --> 0:27:06.110
<v Speaker 3>You needed to do concentrates. You needed to do hashish.

0:27:06.869 --> 0:27:10.370
<v Speaker 3>And you can't just smoke hash with a regular Bic lighter. No,

0:27:10.850 --> 0:27:14.909
<v Speaker 3>you need the big old butane or propane lighter to

0:27:14.990 --> 0:27:18.580
<v Speaker 3>hit a iron piece called a nail. And then you

0:27:18.630 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 3>take dental tools and then you take the hash and

0:27:22.500 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>touch it to the dental tools to the hot iron

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.979
<v Speaker 3>that is turned red. And then you inhale that and

0:27:29.020 --> 0:27:32.990
<v Speaker 3>you turn pink from coughing so bad. They call it

0:27:33.050 --> 0:27:36.370
<v Speaker 3>a nail hit. And damn, am I embarrassed how often

0:27:36.410 --> 0:27:40.889
<v Speaker 3>I did that crap. So yeah, that takes me back. Hey,

0:27:40.930 --> 0:27:44.570
<v Speaker 3>I haven't smoked pot in 10 years. I recommend quitting.

0:27:45.109 --> 0:27:45.730
<v Speaker 2>My God.

0:27:45.970 --> 0:27:46.580
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:27:46.619 --> 0:27:47.859
<v Speaker 6>So, you know what I'm saying?

0:27:48.700 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, those things, I don't think they're going to

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>ban those. They Coleman's you can buy those for two

0:27:53.340 --> 0:27:54.820
<v Speaker 3>bucks at like Rite Aid.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. You want to even have to worry about it

0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 6>stays on.

0:27:59.780 --> 0:28:00.500
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure.

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.260
<v Speaker 6>When we out here in the streets and we try

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:03.820
<v Speaker 6>to stay warm.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what it is. They've got the Coleman propane

0:28:07.859 --> 0:28:10.980
<v Speaker 3>lighter with the torch to heat up their meth pipes

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 3>provided to you by the County of San Francisco to

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 3>keep warm.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Regardless of their use, the fire department wants them banned.

0:28:20.460 --> 0:28:23.929
<v Speaker 1>Last year, there were 21 fire incidents due to the

0:28:24.030 --> 0:28:25.510
<v Speaker 1>misuse of these lighters.

0:28:25.710 --> 0:28:27.630
<v Speaker 3>I bet in LA it's 10 times that much.

0:28:28.050 --> 0:28:31.109
<v Speaker 7>And just this year, we've had three Locked butane lighter

0:28:31.150 --> 0:28:34.020
<v Speaker 7>fires specifically, and one has resulted in the death of

0:28:34.140 --> 0:28:35.139
<v Speaker 7>a community member.

0:28:36.380 --> 0:28:38.830
<v Speaker 1>In the past five years, the fire department says the.

0:28:39.940 --> 0:28:43.420
<v Speaker 3>You can't tell. Well, maybe you can tell, but the citizens'

0:28:43.460 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 3>video that they're showing of a car on fire in

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.510
<v Speaker 3>the Tenderloin, yes, that was shot by our friend J.J. Smith.

0:28:48.530 --> 0:28:54.430
<v Speaker 1>These lighters accounted for an estimated $ 3. 2 million in property losses.

0:28:54.810 --> 0:28:57.610
<v Speaker 7>Drug users in many cases want to have that continuous

0:28:57.650 --> 0:29:00.540
<v Speaker 7>flame to continue to light their pipe. And the problem

0:29:00.580 --> 0:29:03.910
<v Speaker 7>that we have is that the locking butane mechanism, once

0:29:03.930 --> 0:29:06.690
<v Speaker 7>you turn it on, if you fall asleep or pass out,

0:29:06.990 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 7>it remains on. And then it can light other items

0:29:09.500 --> 0:29:11.540
<v Speaker 7>on fire in your immediate area and then potentially the

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:12.100
<v Speaker 7>entire building.

0:29:12.990 --> 0:29:15.850
<v Speaker 3>And I love how the answer to this is, well,

0:29:16.170 --> 0:29:19.970
<v Speaker 3>we really shouldn't have those lighters. We should not allow

0:29:20.230 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>open-air drug use on the streets of San Francisco. Even

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.260
<v Speaker 3>though we've done a good job of pushing the problem

0:29:27.300 --> 0:29:31.270
<v Speaker 3>to the bad neighborhoods, why are we allowing any of it?

0:29:31.270 --> 0:29:33.310
<v Speaker 1>Derek Joyce agreed.

0:29:33.310 --> 0:29:35.510
<v Speaker 2>You start to fire when you lock it and you

0:29:35.630 --> 0:29:36.370
<v Speaker 2>pass out.

0:29:36.470 --> 0:29:37.550
<v Speaker 3>That guy has meth voice.

0:29:37.970 --> 0:29:41.090
<v Speaker 1>You drop it. As we discovered, there are other ways

0:29:41.170 --> 0:29:44.230
<v Speaker 1>of getting hurt by using them. Have you ever heard

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.630
<v Speaker 1>of anybody accidentally getting burnt?

0:29:46.690 --> 0:29:47.820
<v Speaker 2>Yes, up their nose.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sure that was a guy, but not an

0:29:50.580 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>important part of the story.

0:29:51.740 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 7>I know on my marijuana pipe before I did it,

0:29:55.060 --> 0:29:58.060
<v Speaker 7>it came through my pipe and it did burn my throat.

0:29:58.780 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So they are really high. Yeah, they can hurt you.

0:30:02.660 --> 0:30:05.850
<v Speaker 1>People here had no issues showing us their burn marks.

0:30:08.730 --> 0:30:12.370
<v Speaker 3>This is complete insanity. You know, there are plenty of

0:30:12.410 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>cities that do not allow this. And while SF has

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.220
<v Speaker 3>gotten a lot better because they don't allow this in

0:30:18.300 --> 0:30:21.020
<v Speaker 3>half the city, in the part of the city they do,

0:30:21.100 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 3>it is completely insane.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:27.220
<v Speaker 1>That was due to a butane lighter lockable. Kimberly Saunders

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.180
<v Speaker 1>knows about the dangers of these lockable devices. She used

0:30:31.340 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>one to experiment with a piece of clothing.

0:30:34.020 --> 0:30:35.110
<v Speaker 5>The torch wouldn't turn off.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:35.930
<v Speaker 7>And then the.

0:30:38.230 --> 0:30:40.830
<v Speaker 2>Next thing I know, my friend was.

0:30:40.870 --> 0:30:43.390
<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? I was going to use a

0:30:43.470 --> 0:30:49.370
<v Speaker 3>blowtorch to experiment with some clothing? What does that mean?

0:30:51.100 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 6>Dragging me out the room so my hand was on

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 6>fire my leg was on fire the bed was on fire.

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>She lost a finger and doctors may now have to

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:07.190
<v Speaker 1>amputate another in 2024 vancouver banned these lighters after six

0:31:07.270 --> 0:31:11.150
<v Speaker 1>people died and 79 others were injured between.

0:31:10.810 --> 0:31:13.890
<v Speaker 3>Hey look it's the canadian fentanyl fold.

0:31:14.170 --> 0:31:24.180
<v Speaker 1>January 2023 You.

0:31:23.630 --> 0:31:26.430
<v Speaker 3>Know, you wouldn't have to ban the butane lighters if

0:31:26.470 --> 0:31:30.430
<v Speaker 3>you just enforced the drug laws. If you just picked

0:31:30.530 --> 0:31:34.450
<v Speaker 3>up anybody that was doing meth on the street and

0:31:34.550 --> 0:31:37.990
<v Speaker 3>put them away. We didn't used to have this problem.

0:31:38.350 --> 0:31:42.790
<v Speaker 1>The department recently urged board president Rafael Mandelman to craft

0:31:42.990 --> 0:31:47.890
<v Speaker 1>legislation to ban the cheap plastic lockable containers. They cost

0:31:47.950 --> 0:31:48.650
<v Speaker 1>about $ 10.

0:31:48.430 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 4>And we've spent more than a year consulting with them

0:31:52.460 --> 0:31:54.820
<v Speaker 4>and talking to the restaurant industry and trying to figure

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>out a way to craft a legislation that would allow

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 4>for the legitimate uses of butane lighters.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.490
<v Speaker 3>And there are legitimate uses of butane lighters. If you've

0:32:04.590 --> 0:32:08.620
<v Speaker 3>ever ordered creme brulee, you know. what a legitimate use

0:32:08.660 --> 0:32:12.950
<v Speaker 3>of a butane lighter is for. But that's why it's

0:32:13.050 --> 0:32:15.390
<v Speaker 3>not the lighter, it's the drugs.

0:32:16.330 --> 0:32:20.430
<v Speaker 5>And there are, like, there are legitimate uses, while also

0:32:20.470 --> 0:32:23.220
<v Speaker 5>trying to at least reduce or make it harder.

0:32:23.790 --> 0:32:23.970
<v Speaker 3>to.

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.510
<v Speaker 5>Get these plastic lock butane lighters that seem to be

0:32:27.570 --> 0:32:28.190
<v Speaker 5>part of the problem.

0:32:28.530 --> 0:32:32.790
<v Speaker 1>Restaurants typically have the more expensive lighters. The ban will

0:32:32.930 --> 0:32:36.270
<v Speaker 1>not apply to them. A good example would be for,

0:32:36.290 --> 0:32:39.300
<v Speaker 1>you know, creme brulee to crisp it up. And so

0:32:39.340 --> 0:32:42.020
<v Speaker 1>it is used in commercial kitchens, that type of technology.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.260
<v Speaker 2>And Supervisor Mandelman's team reached out and said, we're not

0:32:45.380 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>intending to cause harm.

0:32:46.700 --> 0:32:49.180
<v Speaker 1>Can you work with us on it? If it passes,

0:32:49.420 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>any store caught selling the plastic.

0:32:51.790 --> 0:32:54.430
<v Speaker 3>I got another one. How about while we want to

0:32:54.540 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 3>ban the butane lighters, maybe we just ban the smoke

0:32:58.020 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 3>shops that sell everything else that you shouldn't have in

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:01.100
<v Speaker 3>the city.

0:33:01.380 --> 0:33:07.380
<v Speaker 1>Lockable kind will face a $ 500 fine and $ 1, 000 after that.

0:33:08.870 --> 0:33:11.930
<v Speaker 1>And they are only proposing a ban on the cheap

0:33:12.290 --> 0:33:15.950
<v Speaker 1>plastic kind because they are the most accessible and the

0:33:15.990 --> 0:33:19.030
<v Speaker 1>most popular ones out there. And according to the fire department.

0:33:19.110 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, gosh, those restaurant ones, those are like $ 30.

0:33:22.740 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't got money for that.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>When they burn the plastic, of course, we know this,

0:33:27.620 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>releases toxic chemicals into the air. So they're very popular

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.500
<v Speaker 1>out there. They cost about $ 10. And easy to get

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.980
<v Speaker 1>at most stores on the streets. And as you saw,

0:33:38.060 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>two or three people had several.

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I was getting nervous just watching them.

0:33:43.260 --> 0:33:45.770
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. When you think about it.

0:33:45.770 --> 0:33:45.870
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:46.730 --> 0:33:48.770
<v Speaker 1>So they use it a lot. A lot of them

0:33:48.830 --> 0:33:52.190
<v Speaker 1>told me because it's so windy in San Francisco. So

0:33:52.250 --> 0:33:55.030
<v Speaker 1>when they're trying to use their drugs or even, you know,

0:33:55.070 --> 0:33:57.710
<v Speaker 1>so so it just the flame stays on. Right.

0:34:00.380 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>We need these disposable butane lighters because it does get

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.899
<v Speaker 3>very windy in San Francisco and my brown bick will

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:15.380
<v Speaker 3>blow out. It just seems that we're thinking a little

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.489
<v Speaker 3>too hard on this. We're overthinking the issue just a

0:34:18.670 --> 0:34:25.100
<v Speaker 3>little bit. If we started arresting people for doing drugs

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>on the street because you're not supposed to do that. Hey,

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 3>put them into treatment. I'd rather them be in treatment

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.940
<v Speaker 3>than jail, but get them off the street. And I

0:34:32.980 --> 0:34:36.620
<v Speaker 3>don't know, deport the Honduran drug dealers that are passing

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 3>out the meth. Also, even though we pay lip service

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.940
<v Speaker 3>to it, we got to end all harm reduction programs

0:34:43.020 --> 0:34:46.060
<v Speaker 3>because it is real rich for the city of San Francisco.

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.610
<v Speaker 3>on one end to ban the lighter but they're the

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.549
<v Speaker 3>ones that are paying the non-profit to pass out the

0:34:52.610 --> 0:34:54.149
<v Speaker 3>pipe now.

0:34:54.170 --> 0:34:57.650
<v Speaker 1>Again regular lighter that keeps going out right exactly and

0:34:57.710 --> 0:35:00.090
<v Speaker 1>so also it keeps them warm yeah that was a

0:35:00.170 --> 0:35:01.250
<v Speaker 1>big factor.

0:35:00.890 --> 0:35:02.410
<v Speaker 2>They told me that inherently is part of the.

0:35:02.390 --> 0:35:05.609
<v Speaker 1>Danger absolutely if you're in a tent oh for sure

0:35:05.890 --> 0:35:07.170
<v Speaker 1>yeah thank you Leanne.

0:35:06.969 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Sure don't forget even though Los Angeles has a much

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 3>larger homeless population LA had 12,000 homeless-related fires in the

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.690
<v Speaker 3>first nine months of this year. We know this is

0:35:18.730 --> 0:35:21.090
<v Speaker 3>a big strain on fire departments up and down the

0:35:21.130 --> 0:35:24.670
<v Speaker 3>state of California. So yes, the lighters are a problem.

0:35:25.070 --> 0:35:27.830
<v Speaker 3>But the reason that they're on the streets using the

0:35:27.890 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 3>lighters is the drugs. There you go. There's your crazy

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:38.020
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco story for the day. The Board of Supervisors

0:35:38.420 --> 0:35:43.589
<v Speaker 3>looking to ban butane lighters even though the drugs are

0:35:44.050 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>already illegal. It's Randy Wang on the John Phillips show.

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.860
<v Speaker 3>It's the John Phillips show. It's Randy Wang here. I

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.410
<v Speaker 3>got to say in that last story, I really had

0:35:55.450 --> 0:35:58.690
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of PTSD. We're seeing the Coleman lighter

0:35:58.710 --> 0:36:02.450
<v Speaker 3>being brought out the big propane take with the torch.

0:36:03.090 --> 0:36:05.489
<v Speaker 3>I told you about, you know, the, the nail hits

0:36:05.530 --> 0:36:07.700
<v Speaker 3>that me and my dumb ass friends used to do.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.430
<v Speaker 3>And look, I never want to tell anyone how to

0:36:12.469 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 3>live their life, and everyone has their vice. Everyone has

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.900
<v Speaker 3>their thing that, you know, makes them relax. So if

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 3>it's cigarettes, if it's pot, if it's booze, you know,

0:36:22.739 --> 0:36:26.299
<v Speaker 3>I definitely enjoy some alcohol from time to time. I

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>really shouldn't be liking beer as much as I like

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 3>beer these days because it makes me gain weight, but

0:36:31.500 --> 0:36:35.770
<v Speaker 3>I love it. But I got to say, at least

0:36:35.830 --> 0:36:41.100
<v Speaker 3>for me, I spent 10 years... In what I call

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.330
<v Speaker 3>hard mode. Because I was making very little money in

0:36:46.370 --> 0:36:49.549
<v Speaker 3>this radio world, in the podcasting world, and I was

0:36:49.590 --> 0:36:52.930
<v Speaker 3>spending a ton of it on pot. And I was

0:36:52.989 --> 0:36:56.509
<v Speaker 3>convincing myself all the time how helpful it was for me. Oh,

0:36:57.330 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>it would make me relax. Relax for my what? Barely job? Oh,

0:37:01.860 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 3>it would help me sleep. As when I met my wife,

0:37:05.060 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 3>she pointed out, no, it doesn't. You go to Jack

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 3>in the Box at 3 a.m. and order $ 10 worth

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>of food. That's what makes you sleep. And I just,

0:37:17.460 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 3>here's the thing that I'll say. And again, you do

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>whatever you do. I know for me, it made me

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 3>much less productive, much less smart. There's a good portion

0:37:27.780 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 3>of my 20s that I don't remember as clearly as

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.580
<v Speaker 3>I remember everything else in my life because I was

0:37:33.620 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of living in a cloud because it wasn't just like,

0:37:36.250 --> 0:37:37.910
<v Speaker 3>something you do at the end of the day. It

0:37:37.950 --> 0:37:40.450
<v Speaker 3>was something that you woke up doing. You did all

0:37:40.489 --> 0:37:43.630
<v Speaker 3>day long, pretty much the entire two and a half years.

0:37:43.730 --> 0:37:46.330
<v Speaker 3>I worked at KFI as a board op for Conway.

0:37:46.350 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 3>I was high as a kite. I would show up stone.

0:37:49.739 --> 0:37:52.940
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was helpful for that job, but I never

0:37:53.020 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 3>really got further in my career until I quit. And

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 3>it's interesting. I was working here. I was working on

0:38:01.300 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the morning show. And I did not smoke before the

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 3>morning show because I didn't want to be high while

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>driving at 4 o'clock in the morning. But what had

0:38:11.219 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 3>happened was is that we moved. We were living in

0:38:15.260 --> 0:38:17.460
<v Speaker 3>a house in Burbank, and we moved to a townhouse

0:38:17.500 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 3>in Reseda. And this is the stupidest reason ever, but, like,

0:38:21.500 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a backyard anymore, and our front yard

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 3>was facing Sherman Way. So... For like the first week

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 3>I was like Maybe I'll just see if I can

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>stop doing it Because I'll tell you While I enjoyed

0:38:33.100 --> 0:38:36.230
<v Speaker 3>it for 8 of those 10 years The last 2

0:38:36.230 --> 0:38:38.930
<v Speaker 3>years That stuff turned on me And it made me

0:38:39.210 --> 0:38:41.350
<v Speaker 3>anxious as hell And it took me like a year

0:38:41.390 --> 0:38:43.509
<v Speaker 3>and a half To realize that it was making me

0:38:43.690 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 3>anxious And it was not helping me with anything So

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I quit And it was kind of It wasn't the

0:38:51.100 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>hardest thing It wasn't too easy But For 3 weeks

0:38:55.860 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 3>afterwards I remember walking in the hallway at the radio station,

0:39:01.580 --> 0:39:03.820
<v Speaker 3>and one of our salespeople, who now is our general

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.219
<v Speaker 3>sales manager, Debbie, she stops me in the hall, and

0:39:07.260 --> 0:39:09.490
<v Speaker 3>she says, I don't know what you've been doing lately,

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<v Speaker 3>but you sure sound smarter than you used to. And

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<v Speaker 3>that one stuck with me. I mean, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a sucker for compliments, but it was true. I was

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention more.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>making better connections on the air as the third leg

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<v Speaker 3>on the McIntyre show. And that was it for me. Like, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>I sound smarter and I should probably want to sound

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<v Speaker 3>smarter and be smarter if this is the career they

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<v Speaker 3>want to go in. And look, at least for me personally,

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<v Speaker 3>when I finally made that switch, every aspect of my

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<v Speaker 3>life did improve. So, If you can control yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>you just have it on the weekends, maybe you have

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<v Speaker 3>a gummy good for you. I couldn't, I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>it all the time. God bless my wife for putting

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<v Speaker 3>up with me those first couple of years, but, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>quitting has greatly improved my life over the last 10 years. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I look at where I am today and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would be in this position in

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<v Speaker 3>this chair talking to you right now. If I was

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<v Speaker 3>still smoking $ 400 a weed every week. Just something to

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<v Speaker 3>think about. Hey, everybody. Do we have a special for you?

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