WEBVTT - Half Of Smoke Shops Sell Illegal Goods?

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<v Speaker 3>dot Com. We start with one of my personal crusades.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are some things that I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a nag on, and I don't think I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>changing anytime soon. I really don't like smoke shops. That

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean I have this like crusade against tobacco or

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<v Speaker 3>even a problem with people smoking cigarettes. I'm not one

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<v Speaker 3>of those people. I you know, if that's what you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do, fine, enjoy yourself. Not really my thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't really bother me. But smoke shops, We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking talking about a totally different thing. Because, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the average person that I know that happens to smoke cigarettes,

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<v Speaker 3>where are they buying their cigarettes? Probably a gas station,

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<v Speaker 3>probably a you know, a seven to eleven, a convenience store.

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<v Speaker 3>And how about people that enjoy cigars, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they probably go to a fine liquor and cigar store

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<v Speaker 3>like Tarzana Wine and Spirits, great place right there on

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<v Speaker 3>Ventura Boulevard. I happen to believe that smoke shops are

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but hotbeds of barely legal and illegal activity. Smoke

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<v Speaker 3>shops which you would think means a place where people

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<v Speaker 3>are going to buy I don't know, loose tobaccos so

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<v Speaker 3>they can roll their own cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>My uncle used to do that at one point. Super gross.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, maybe people are going to buy water pipes for

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<v Speaker 3>their non tobacco smoking activities.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that term water pipes.

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<v Speaker 3>These places are everywhere in southern California. In the San

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<v Speaker 3>Fernando Valley where I reluctantly still live, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>smoke shop, dare I say, in almost every single strip mall.

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<v Speaker 2>And smoking's way down.

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<v Speaker 3>So how exactly are these businesses surviving in this climate? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you how, because they're selling a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things they're not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>For one, we know a lot of these smoke shops.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the places that are also operating as illegal

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<v Speaker 3>pot stores. They're selling the stuff that they're not licensed

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<v Speaker 3>to sell, and because they're doing it without a license,

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<v Speaker 3>they're able to sell it a lot cheaper than the

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<v Speaker 3>people doing it the right way. And apparently, according to

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<v Speaker 3>our own primaried city attorney, it is so difficult to

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<v Speaker 3>shut these things down even when they are operating illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see how that makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>We in fact, in the city of Los Angeles passed

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<v Speaker 3>a ballot measure to allow the City of LA to

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<v Speaker 3>send a tax bill to illegally operating pot stores. But

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<v Speaker 3>the smoke shops do so much more than just offer pot.

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<v Speaker 3>They offer a whole bunch of other things, including we

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<v Speaker 3>did an entire story on the Accountability podcast about how

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these smoke shops they make a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money selling nitrous oxide. And if you're wondering what's

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<v Speaker 3>that's for, it's for whippets. And they even have creatively

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<v Speaker 3>designed packaging for canisters to attract young people to get

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<v Speaker 3>this brand of whippets. How is that something that's legal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's starting to have ordinances. But it is the wildest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You go to a rock concert now and you see

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<v Speaker 3>people with these gigantic, transparent balloons selling them to you

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<v Speaker 3>for five dollars so you can do a hit of

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<v Speaker 3>nos before you go see a concert.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not just nitrous oxide.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just the pot that they're supposed to not

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<v Speaker 3>be selling that they're selling. Oh no, no, no, they're

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<v Speaker 3>so much more. And in fact, in Sacramento, researchers found

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<v Speaker 3>that over half of the smoke shops that they surveyed

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<v Speaker 3>sold banned substances that they're not supposed to sell. Because

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<v Speaker 3>this is what the smoke shop is. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like what the you know, the roadside gas station in

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<v Speaker 3>Middle America is like all of these products that are

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<v Speaker 3>not evaluated by the FDA that are sold as health

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<v Speaker 3>food products. Where you want to talk about the off

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<v Speaker 3>brand penis pills, the stuff that's supposed to improve your

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<v Speaker 3>form rments, whatsoever, stuff that's unlicensed. Pain believers create them,

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<v Speaker 3>all of this insanity. Remember when the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 3>the pot stores were selling synthetic pot K two and

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<v Speaker 3>spice bath salts. Seriously, there is so much crap going

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<v Speaker 3>on that it shouldn't be legitimate at all. And in

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<v Speaker 3>a state that loves to regulate and ban everything, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so bizarre to me that we allow the smoke shops

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<v Speaker 3>that plague our neighborhoods and attract criminal activity, and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them are fronts for straight up criminal organizations

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<v Speaker 3>are allowed to thrive. And I have a theory on this.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a long standing theory why we look the

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<v Speaker 3>other way when it comes to the smoke shops and

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<v Speaker 3>the strip malls selling a bunch of stuff they're not

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to. Why we look the other way on the

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<v Speaker 3>illicit massage parlor in the strip mall that is definitely

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<v Speaker 3>not selling anything that someone would consider a legitimate massage.

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<v Speaker 3>If a massage parlor has black bars on the windows,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not a lot of real spa treatments going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>If they have flashing neon signs, chances are they're not legit.

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<v Speaker 3>If their hours are open until eleven o'clock at night,

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<v Speaker 3>you know exactly what is going on out there. If

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<v Speaker 3>this was a podcast, I could say in more detail

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<v Speaker 3>what we call these places, but since I'm on the radio,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just call.

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<v Speaker 2>It an R and T.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what these places are, and they're all over

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<v Speaker 3>the place. You know, if you drive through the San

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<v Speaker 3>Fernando Valley, it repeats itself over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Just count how many McDonald's there are Unventura Boulevard. Also

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<v Speaker 3>count how many smoke shops are in little strip malls.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at these strip malls that we have

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<v Speaker 3>way too many of, and almost every single one that

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<v Speaker 3>I drive past has either a smoke shop, a massage

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<v Speaker 3>parlor or both. And in fact, the closest strip mall

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<v Speaker 3>to my house has a I don't consider the seven

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<v Speaker 3>eleven part of the smoke shop, but right next to

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<v Speaker 3>the seven eleven is a four unit strip mall. Two

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<v Speaker 3>of the units have been for lease and abandoned for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. The two units that are still in

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<v Speaker 3>there smoke shop and massage parlor. And this is why

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<v Speaker 3>I believe we look the other way on this, Why

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<v Speaker 3>even though we know there is obvious human trafficking going

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<v Speaker 3>on at these places every single day, obvious dens of

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<v Speaker 3>prostitution at the massage parlors. We know there are obvious

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<v Speaker 3>hotbeds of criminal activity, sometimes connected to gangs and organized

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<v Speaker 3>crime going on at these smoke shops.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason we don't bust them.

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<v Speaker 3>Is because if we did that, if we cracked down

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<v Speaker 3>on the smoke shop, if we crack down on the

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<v Speaker 3>massage parlor, if we shut down those businesses, is it

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<v Speaker 3>possible that there are to be such a massive impact

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<v Speaker 3>to the commercial real estate bubble that we are currently

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<v Speaker 3>facing right now that if you don't have the smoke

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<v Speaker 3>shop paying the rent, and you don't have the obviously

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<v Speaker 3>illicit massage parlor paying the rent, that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see a whole bunch of these strip malls all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden have no shops. There's four least signs in

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<v Speaker 3>every single one of them. Now you see a completely

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<v Speaker 3>full strip mall, you must be in a very good neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it possible that we're looking the other way

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<v Speaker 3>because these are the only businesses that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay the rent Because it's very hard to start a

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<v Speaker 3>small business. It's very expensive to start a small business.

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<v Speaker 3>Commercial real estate is very expensive to lease, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have so many people that own these commercial properties that

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<v Speaker 3>are not getting what Maybe they're barely getting enough to

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<v Speaker 3>pay their loans, maybe they're getting less, maybe they're losing

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<v Speaker 3>money on them. And if we were to shut down

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<v Speaker 3>all of the obvious illegal businesses that are all throughout

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<v Speaker 3>these smoke shops, you might start seeing all kinds of foreclosures,

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<v Speaker 3>in bankruptcies and.

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<v Speaker 2>What have you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we're kind of like this house of cards,

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<v Speaker 3>keeping the commercial real estate economy afloat by allowing all

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<v Speaker 3>of this criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, in my mind, what would we do about this?

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<v Speaker 3>And I know this is one of those things that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot harder in practice, but I still think it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth thinking about. You know you're even hearing in her

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<v Speaker 3>desperate plea to get re elected, Karen Bass talking about

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<v Speaker 3>adaptive reuse. When it comes to all of the downtown

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<v Speaker 3>buildings that are empty because the office space isn't coming back,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that is a lot of work and

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<v Speaker 3>that can be very difficult. When it comes to the

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<v Speaker 3>land that you know, these strip malls are on, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like that would be way easier to rezone and

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<v Speaker 3>way quicker knock them down. When you have a strip

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<v Speaker 3>mall that has nothing of value in it, Let's make

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<v Speaker 3>it really easy for whoever owns that land to build

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<v Speaker 3>some I'm not even going to say affordable housing because

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<v Speaker 3>that's a loaded term, just housing. Let them build an

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<v Speaker 3>apartment building there.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it as.

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<v Speaker 3>Easy as possible, in fact, incentivize it because we have

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<v Speaker 3>a quote housing crime, right, and we need to build

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<v Speaker 3>more housing and there's no legitimate business being done at

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<v Speaker 3>the strip mall, and strip malls are super ugly and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a blight on neighborhoods at this point. You

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<v Speaker 3>know the ones I'm talking about, if you live in

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<v Speaker 3>the valley. Maybe we make it easier. Maybe we make

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<v Speaker 3>it so we can start really making some changes and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you do the thing that you know is so

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<v Speaker 3>trendy now where you know you have maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 3>three or four story building because this is La in

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<v Speaker 3>the Valley. We're not going to get crazy here, and

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<v Speaker 3>you have a market on the first floor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they've actually got one of these now in Sherman Oaks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. It is not cheap, but you could live

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<v Speaker 3>on top of a Trader Joe's, which is an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>way to live. But you know, I was walking around Toronto,

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<v Speaker 3>and Toronto is a major metropolitan city, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>and there is all kinds of housing. Like there is

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<v Speaker 3>a massive mall near where I was staying called the Well,

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<v Speaker 3>and on top of the Well is a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of apartments that's kind of cool. There was this really

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<v Speaker 3>really really trendy bar that had like the biggest happy

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<v Speaker 3>hour in downtown Toronto and it's the first floor of

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<v Speaker 3>a big apartment building.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't have a problem with more of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think LA in our infrastructure can handle you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ten twelve story buildings in places like the San Fernando Valley,

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<v Speaker 3>but more of that kind of reuse where you have

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<v Speaker 3>something that's kind of fun that maybe the people who

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<v Speaker 3>live in the building would use.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do we have instead?

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<v Speaker 3>We have vacant retail spaces and the only people paying

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<v Speaker 3>the rent are pretty obviously criminal organizations. Maybe I'm biased,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>A little cranky.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm so sick of driving past this strip mall

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<v Speaker 3>I see every single day. But I don't think anything

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate happens at smoke shops. I don't think anything legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>happens at massage parlors. Nobody's going in there because they

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<v Speaker 3>have back pain. That's just not happening. I could go

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<v Speaker 3>into further detail on how I know exactly what goes

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<v Speaker 3>on in those places, but this is a family show,

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<v Speaker 3>and I already told all those stories on my old

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<v Speaker 3>podcast and scrubbed that stuff from the internet, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to do it again. It's the News Blitz

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<v Speaker 3>with Randy Wang on Talk Radio seven ninety KABC.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the News.

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<v Speaker 3>Blitz with Randy Wang on Talk Radio seven ninety KABC. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>after I sign off here at six If you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>checked out the latest episode of The Accountability Podcast, it

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<v Speaker 3>dropped today at three pm, and it's John and I

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<v Speaker 3>and Seneca Scott talking about Bob Bonta panicking because of

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<v Speaker 3>Sheng Tao's upcoming corruption trial. Do not miss it, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 3>don't like dot Com. Let's go to David Whittier.

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<v Speaker 4>Dave, Hello, Yes, sir, okay, I've got a different take

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<v Speaker 4>for you on this. Arresting these illegal businesses, the massage prothers, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>Across the board in California. Do it. And here's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Because all that property is going to be available, and

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<v Speaker 4>we know in the real estate market, availability brings down prices, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what it's going to do. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be bring down the price of leasing and it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to spur on in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like that idea because you know, I have

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<v Speaker 3>seen some of the prices to lease. Even space is

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<v Speaker 3>in the dumpiest of a strip ball. It's like, how

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<v Speaker 3>does anybody get into that? You're right, maybe there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a little more competition and they'll have to lower the

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<v Speaker 3>price and make it more competitive if we take out

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<v Speaker 3>all of these places they know they're getting guaranteed income

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<v Speaker 3>from from the obvious criminal organizations.

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<v Speaker 4>Randy had already happened in La County. Deportations ice reporting

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<v Speaker 4>has caused has caused you can google that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>as you have mentioned, that caused rent prices to go

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<v Speaker 4>down in Los Angeles County.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there you go, Dave, Thanks so much for the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it. Let's go to Tom in La Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Yeah, Hi, I think your theory about why they're

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<v Speaker 4>not arresting the massage parlers is way too imaginative and

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<v Speaker 4>gives the politicians way too much credit for intelligence and

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<v Speaker 4>thoughtfulness they The bottom line is the politicians, for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part, are narcissists. They really don't care about anything

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<v Speaker 4>except themselves and what's going to get them re elected.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't give a crap about anybody else, and and

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<v Speaker 4>the law enforcement officers themselves. As a prosecutor for eleven years,

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<v Speaker 4>I dealt with this stuff every day, the prosecutor or

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<v Speaker 4>the law enforcement officers. You have a small minority who

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<v Speaker 4>are really dedicated and really want to enforce the law

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<v Speaker 4>and go after bad guys. They are constantly being put

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<v Speaker 4>down and put to the side and told to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 4>don't rock the boat. The people in charge are lazy.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to keep control of their job situation because

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<v Speaker 4>they're all making over one hundred thousand dollars with the

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<v Speaker 4>overtime plus the retirement benefits, So they don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything that's going to jeopardize their job. And so

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<v Speaker 4>it really doesn't have anything to do with them trying

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<v Speaker 4>to support the real estate market. The pol Fishes, they

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<v Speaker 4>just aren't that knowledgeable and thoughtful about business and they

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<v Speaker 4>really don't care and in terms of lowering the having

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<v Speaker 4>competition and lowering the rates, if those businesses were put

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<v Speaker 4>out of business and the office spaces were left open.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Las Vegas during the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>eight two thousand and nine real estate crash, and there

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<v Speaker 4>were like strip malls all over the place that were vacant,

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<v Speaker 4>totally vacant, or to be like one store. All the

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<v Speaker 4>anchor stores were gone at the time. I tried to

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<v Speaker 4>get some. I thought I'd get some cheap office space,

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<v Speaker 4>so I called these different property managers that were handling

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<v Speaker 4>the centers. The problem is these real estate centers, they're owned,

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<v Speaker 4>they're owned by these big companies that really don't care

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<v Speaker 4>if they sit empty because they take real estate losses

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<v Speaker 4>on the income tax returns. So until you get rid

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<v Speaker 4>of that loss on the income tax return, these big

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<v Speaker 4>conglomerates that own the shopping centers. They don't really care

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<v Speaker 4>if their thing is empty. And I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a mom and pop owner, they're going to be hurting.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the most part, most of these things are

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<v Speaker 4>owned by you know, real estate investment trusts and LLCs

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<v Speaker 4>that have lots of money and the people and when

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<v Speaker 4>they're privately owned is publicly being publicly traded. The privately

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<v Speaker 4>owned companies, those people they have so much money they

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<v Speaker 4>don't care if a property does and you know, return

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<v Speaker 4>any rent because they have sufficient funds in the bank.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the downturn is not going to hurt them.

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<v Speaker 4>And for reasons that I personally don't understand, manage real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>Property manager after property manager told me that they would

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<v Speaker 4>not go down on their stated you know, per square

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<v Speaker 4>foot rental rate.

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<v Speaker 3>We see it every single day. Tom, We're running up

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<v Speaker 3>against a break. But you make a heck of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of sense. The real estate companies don't care because

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<v Speaker 3>they make money just on the loss. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the news Blitz with Randy Wang on KABC. Chuck

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<v Speaker 3>writes in at Randy Wang Radio at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Help me understand this.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you come up with the belief that strip

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<v Speaker 3>mall should never have empty spots. Where do you and

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<v Speaker 3>the guy you interviewed, the guy that called in come

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<v Speaker 3>up with this belief that in your perfect world, every

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<v Speaker 3>strip mall should be full and white.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it math to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's just a sign of the economy

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<v Speaker 3>that so many vacancies are in so many strip malls.

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<v Speaker 3>And if the only places that are able to take

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<v Speaker 3>out leases are places that are obvious dens for criminal activity,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting to me. I don't understand. I'm not angry.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't understand why you believe that strip mall

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<v Speaker 3>should never have vacancies, and more so, why does it

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<v Speaker 3>bother you. I'm not mad, So please explain, because it's confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you get this if I don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>told you, maybe the Bible or someplace told you that

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<v Speaker 3>throughout your life that strip malls will all be pleasantly full.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like there's one or two vacancies. Just drive

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<v Speaker 3>up and down Van Owen Boulevard in the San Fernando Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so many vacant storefronts all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>including a place that's zoned to be a pod store

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<v Speaker 3>on Woodley and Victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, did I say Van Owen?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at Victory on Woodley and Victory that has been

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<v Speaker 3>sitting vacant forever. There's a place zoned to be a

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant right next to it, always vacant. Anyone that moves

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<v Speaker 3>in there goes out of business. The only thing that

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<v Speaker 3>makes any money in there is a Leo's Taco truck

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<v Speaker 3>goes to the parking lot. My point of all of

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<v Speaker 3>this is, if the commercial real estate is not working out,

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<v Speaker 3>if we have these strip malls that nobody's starting businesses

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<v Speaker 3>in and the only ones that are our criminal dens,

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<v Speaker 3>and why don't we, you know, make it as easy

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<v Speaker 3>as possible as policy makers for zoning.

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<v Speaker 2>Changes to turn those into all of the buildings that

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<v Speaker 2>we need.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of taking an old two story apartment building, tearing

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<v Speaker 3>it down and making a seven story apartment building, why

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<v Speaker 3>don't we start with all of this space that we

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<v Speaker 3>have that nobody's really using.

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<v Speaker 2>Just something to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of you know, for as much as

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about how we're in a housing crisis, there's

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<v Speaker 3>so much land out there. And sure you have Steve

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<v Speaker 3>Hilton talking about you know that there's so much empty space,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we start new cities, new county. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's also lots of empty space just sitting around where

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<v Speaker 3>we are right now. There's tons and tons and tons

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<v Speaker 3>of land that can be developed or redeveloped. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about all the land that the schools own,

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<v Speaker 3>what have you. Now, let's focus back here on the

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<v Speaker 3>original point, which is the story that I saw from

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<v Speaker 3>CBS Sacramento about the smoke shops and how a study

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<v Speaker 3>found that a good majority of the products sold there

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<v Speaker 3>are not supposed to be sold. For more on this,

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<v Speaker 3>we go to CBS in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 5>High Crimes in Sacramento. College researchers just went undercover looking

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<v Speaker 5>for dangerous drugs in local smoke shops. They say more

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<v Speaker 5>than half of the stores they surveyed were selling contraband

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<v Speaker 5>over the counter. Thanks for staying with us here at

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<v Speaker 5>ten thirty Las Moortacov. We have all been inside a

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<v Speaker 5>convenience store, right and seeing the different products on the

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<v Speaker 5>shlves behind the counter, But how many are legal? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>two med school students decided to find out. Walk with

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<v Speaker 5>me over to Ashley Williams she's here getting answers on

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<v Speaker 5>what prohibited products they found.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, yeah, so Tony. These college students are studying to

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<v Speaker 6>become medical doctors one day, and they're getting an early

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<v Speaker 6>start trying to protect public health. New research showing banned

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<v Speaker 6>substances are being sold in Sancramento stores.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the wild West, essentially, there's no regulation. It

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<v Speaker 3>was and again this is the most overregulated state except

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<v Speaker 3>for certain industries where it's not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you remember the story. We did it a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny, I remember exactly where I am sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>I hear something for the first time, and I believe

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<v Speaker 3>I was because this was just a few weeks ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was walking around the streets of Toronto, because when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on vacation and i'm still working, usually I do

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<v Speaker 3>all my show prep walking around whatever city i'm in,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be Santa Fe, whether it be San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be Tronto. And I remember exactly where I

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<v Speaker 3>was when I heard this wild story. In Sacramento, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a moratorium on smoke shops, and some legislation got

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<v Speaker 3>past that said, you know what, we will allow you

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<v Speaker 3>to construct more smoke shops if they also sell health food,

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently the definition of health food was if you've

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of rotten bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can operate.

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<v Speaker 3>And the amount of smoke shops in Sacramento exploded, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody was going there to buy health food. Although it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting a lot of these insane products that are being

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<v Speaker 3>sold at these stores, they're all marketed as health food

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<v Speaker 3>and dietary supplements, because dietary supplement can be a vast, vast, vast,

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<v Speaker 3>unregulated category of product containing all kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 3>you have no idea what it is you're ingesting. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you right now. You know who did a

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<v Speaker 3>fantastic deep dive on this subject, John Oliver. If you

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<v Speaker 3>really want to know about the crazy things that are

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<v Speaker 3>sold at smoke shops and at gas stations, just search

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<v Speaker 3>on the YouTube for John Oliver gas station drugs. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a fascinating thirty minutes se shocking.

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<v Speaker 6>Kayla Dvote and you lend Zoo are pre med college

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<v Speaker 6>students working with the nonprofit group Youth Forward. This summer,

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<v Speaker 6>they conducted a random survey of sixteen Sacramento smoke shops

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<v Speaker 6>looking for Cradam seven. Oh magic mushrooms and nitrous oxide.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you can get shrooms at the smoke shop now, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three year old me? What have killed to hear

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<v Speaker 3>this story?

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<v Speaker 6>Which are prohibited intoxicating product?

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<v Speaker 3>All of these are technically banned for recreational sale and

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<v Speaker 3>possession in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, screw the pot if you can sell shrooms

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<v Speaker 3>and NOAs and kratum, which is like a synthetic opiate,

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<v Speaker 3>Like damn, this is the candy store right here, and

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<v Speaker 3>these are all over the place. Nobody is buying tobacco

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<v Speaker 3>at these stores.

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<v Speaker 7>And out of the sixteen, over fifty percent had these substances,

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<v Speaker 7>and that was just a major concern for me.

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<v Speaker 6>The results were published in a thirteen page report. This week,

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<v Speaker 6>They presented their findings to the Sacramento City Council.

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<v Speaker 7>Our goal is to reduce harm caused by addiction and

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<v Speaker 7>overdose in our community.

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<v Speaker 6>Researchers say the band products can be dangerous to use.

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<v Speaker 7>Addiction to any of these drugs can lead to serious

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<v Speaker 7>brain damage, death and serious health complications.

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<v Speaker 3>Including the nitrous oxide, which you would imagine, wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 3>be like a controlled substance that you can only buy

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<v Speaker 3>if you're like a licensed dentist, But no, you can

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<v Speaker 3>buy it supposed to use it for recreational purposes, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can buy it at a smoke shop.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>All the crazy things we did, that whole story about

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<v Speaker 3>how we're trying to regulate the kind of tires you

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<v Speaker 3>can buy. We spend so much time on that, But

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to things that can actively harm our

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<v Speaker 3>community because some people are dumb enough to buy this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't seem to look the other ways.

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<v Speaker 6>CBS thirteen reached out to some of the stores about

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<v Speaker 6>the survey results. The manager at Royal Smoky tells us they'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull that's a legit name all.

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<v Speaker 6>The prohibited items off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gift and vape shop.

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<v Speaker 6>The shelves last month. The group Youth Forward says these

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<v Speaker 6>type of prohibited sales are troubling because many of the

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 6>smoke shops are within blocks of schools, including Royal Smoky,

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<v Speaker 6>which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, there's all kinds of regulations as to

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<v Speaker 3>how close to a school or a park you can

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<v Speaker 3>be if you're a licensed marijuana shop. But when it

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 3>comes to the smoke shops that are selling not tobacco,

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<v Speaker 3>but all these other illegal drugs. Yeah, that's fine. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just why if it's not the theory that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe everyone's not buying into that we're trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure the commercial real estate bubble pops, then why is

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<v Speaker 3>it that city attorneys and lawmakers don't want to crack

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<v Speaker 3>down on this. There's just something really strange that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with smoke shops.

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<v Speaker 6>Crossa street from Smith Elementary.

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<v Speaker 4>With it being so accessible, I can't imagine that there

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<v Speaker 4>aren't some numbers of students that are getting access to

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<v Speaker 4>these illegal substances.

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<v Speaker 3>Kayla, and you Lyn, I mean especially because you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about all of the handwringing that went on

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<v Speaker 3>for years and years and years about the vapes and

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<v Speaker 3>how the packaging on the vapes and the flavors of

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 3>vapes were meant to addict children. You should look at

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<v Speaker 3>the packaging on the mushroom chocolate bars, look at the

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>packaging on the nospar, look at the packaging on creative

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 3>what have you. All of this stuff is targeted toward

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>dumbass teens.

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<v Speaker 6>Are now calling on Sacramento City leaders to increase enforcement efforts.

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<v Speaker 3>This is kind of like a blind spot in the city,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's part of the reason why our

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<v Speaker 3>research is so important.

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<v Speaker 7>There unhealthy and they shouldn't be sold at all.

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<v Speaker 6>They certainly uncovered quite a bit there well. Last month,

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<v Speaker 6>Governor Knwsom announced that more than sixty seven hundred CUM

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<v Speaker 6>related products were confiscated during a five month statewide enforcement

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<v Speaker 6>expert Tony.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of things come to mind. Why I took

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<v Speaker 5>met students to discover this and not officials, And secondly,

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<v Speaker 5>the future for these young med students credit right right, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Ashley, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go, just a little dip into the

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<v Speaker 3>window of insanity. That is what should be a super

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<v Speaker 3>highly regulated industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone seems to be looking the other way, and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Med students doing their own survey that find all all

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of illegal activity at licensed businesses. Feel like there

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<v Speaker 3>should be somebody in elected office that wants to champion

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<v Speaker 3>this issue. Or maybe I'm in the minority. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a big deal that you can buy shrooms and

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>nitrous oxide and practically heroin, but it's not called heroin

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<v Speaker 3>in K two or or cradam what have you, stuff

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>that you can overdose from. Maybe it's fine that you

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<v Speaker 3>could just buy that in your average corner store. That's

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<v Speaker 3>on every corner block in the San Fernando Valley. AYB,

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<v Speaker 3>Kerrie writes in you do realize that the Sherman Oaks

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<v Speaker 3>Galleria has never had full occupancy since it's reopened some

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty odd years ago. The Starbucks over there recently closed.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Freedis is gone, so many open spaces to lease. And

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<v Speaker 3>to top that off, they're building another retail condo mall

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>just up the block. That new condo retail space at

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<v Speaker 3>the new Trader Joe's across the street from another Trader Joe's.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>There's only two stores there. Trader Joe's in a very

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 3>expensive Australian smoke shop. Maybe we need another smoke shop there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Galleria is always a fascinating one to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I grew up in the valley. I remember

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 3>just barely going to the Galleria pre earthquake. Of course,

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 3>the Galleria was forever immortalized as the mall in Fast

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Times at Ridgemont High. But you know, even when I

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<v Speaker 3>used to go to that mall a lot because that

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<v Speaker 3>was the movie theater, that was the arc Light.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like the place to go to to see

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<v Speaker 2>a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>This is before all the theaters were doing big reclining chairs.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea the thing was you go to the arc Light.

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<v Speaker 3>And remember how the thing with arc Light was they're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna waste your time with thirty minutes of previews.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that went away, but for a while that was

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<v Speaker 3>like the only place where you could also get a

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 3>drink beforehand, and they had a Buffalo wild Wings when

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>we used to frequent that a lot, big fan of that.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I used to love Buffalo wild Wings, but it always

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<v Speaker 3>fascinated me. How that is like prime real estate on

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<v Speaker 3>Ventura Boulevard and Supulvida and the vast majority of that

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<v Speaker 3>mall has always been empty. There's like, you know, some cooked, crooked,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>fake community college in there. There's a movie theater, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a gym, there's maybe one or two restaurants the DSW,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's no real stores in there. It is the

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<v Speaker 3>strangest thing to me. Maybe they've just made it too expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's an interesting concept. I just got this email

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<v Speaker 3>in I believe this is a AI generation of the

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 3>highest and best use of real estate property, Randy. We

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 3>learned in business school that highest and best used HABO, Hey,

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 3>we use that term here at cumulus is the reasonable, probable, legal,

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 3>and optimal use of a property for vacant land that

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<v Speaker 3>results in the highest market value and economic return subject

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<v Speaker 3>to tangible and intangible jurisdictional constraints. HABOO dictates what a

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<v Speaker 3>property should be used for, not what it's used for.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I had here that a city or jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 3>can add constraints in order to assolve a broader problem,

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<v Speaker 3>say a need for more housing, but the jurisdiction and

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 3>its stakeholders should not overly interfere in letting the market

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<v Speaker 3>and its decision makers, which include investors, not only contractors

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 3>and developers, decide on highest and best use the five

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<v Speaker 3>core tests. To qualify as the highest and best use,

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>the potential must pass four sequential tests. Legally permissible that

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<v Speaker 3>applies with zoning laws, building codes, and deed restrictions, coordinating

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<v Speaker 3>with the jurisdiction's objectives. Recognizing that a permit to build

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 3>may never materialize without working with the the authority having

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 3>some jurisdiction over the permit, like a county or of a city,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 3>give the jurisdiction something they want among their municipal objectives,

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<v Speaker 3>like a small public park at the edge of a

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 3>department complex. Is it physically possible, must match the size, shape,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 3>and soil and access limits. Is it economically or financially feasible.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Must produce enough income to value at cover a building

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 3>and operating costs. Is it maximumly productive out of all

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 3>feasible options. It must yield the highest net return and

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>land value. Why it matters in development. It redefines old assets.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 3>An aging warehouse and a booming residential zone may be

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<v Speaker 3>worth more demolished than operated. It guides investment developers use

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<v Speaker 3>Haabuu when decide to what to rezone, tear down to

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<v Speaker 3>build higher density projects, and it changes over time, shifting

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 3>neighborhoods are now new highways, concerted old farm fields, and

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 3>a commercial retail land. The build environment remains as built

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 3>for many decades following construction, so these decisions should not

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>be made without serious and lengthy consideration. That all is

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting. It still fascinates me when you have that

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 3>property that I talked about on woodleyand Victory, where both

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 3>of the retail slots have been vacant for years. The

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>only person making money on that parking lot is the

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Leo's taco truck, and I can't imagine they're paying that

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<v Speaker 3>much to the landlord to park their truck there to

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<v Speaker 3>get their alpast store tacos. So in that specific situation,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be very curious what is the highest and

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 3>best use of this commercial real estate lot, because I

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<v Speaker 3>would think it would be to tear it down because

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<v Speaker 3>advertising this massive sign that for lease and zoned for

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<v Speaker 3>potstore hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's confusing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you have certain spaces where the only tenants

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 3>are obvious criminal organizations, smoke shops and massage parlors, is

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 3>that truly the highest and best use of that property?

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>And if it is, maybe the local leaders need to

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<v Speaker 3>change what those incentives are. Thank y'all so much for

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