Speaker 1: And very happy Wednesday to you. At twelve oh seven
Speaker 1: in the West, it's the John Phillip Show, mister Randy
Speaker 1: Wings in Culver City.
Speaker 2: Well, Johnny, last night we were sitting in the front
Speaker 2: row as we witnessed the CBS gubernatorial debate, and John
Speaker 2: had a direct line of sight with Katie Porter.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 1: So we get to the theater yesterday and I tell Randy,
Speaker 1: I want to keep a low profile. I don't want
Speaker 1: any incidents. I don't want any confrontations. I don't want
Speaker 1: anything that's going to make the news. So let's just
Speaker 1: show up, sit wherever they put us, and blend in.
Speaker 4: So what happens.
Speaker 1: We get to the theater, We hand our tickets to
Speaker 1: the docins, and the docins direct us to the front row,
Speaker 1: directly in Katie Porter's line of sight.
Speaker 4: I couldn't really believe.
Speaker 1: It at first, but after we sat there for a moment,
Speaker 1: they never moved us. I thought, all right, this is
Speaker 1: where we're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Please did not throw her off her game, even if
Speaker 2: she did recognize who we were, which it's very possible
Speaker 2: she did not, because this is radio.
Speaker 4: Well, she did stare.
Speaker 1: Us down for a little bit right when she walked
Speaker 1: out there, but I think that's also just her natural demeanor,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if she had specific animosity for
Speaker 1: us or just men in general. Now, we were in
Speaker 1: the room last night for all ninety minutes of the debate,
Speaker 1: and it's my first time ever being in a gubernatorial
Speaker 1: debate in the room.
Speaker 4: Was it your first time, Randy? That was my first time. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we've watched them all on television, and you kind
Speaker 1: of get a certain idea as to what the candidates
Speaker 1: are like when you see them on the boob tube.
Speaker 1: But when you see it in person, you get, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe a different view where you see things
Speaker 1: that you would otherwise not see just watching on television.
Speaker 1: And a couple of things from last night jump out
Speaker 1: at me, Randy, First and foremost, in person, tom Steyer
Speaker 1: looks much older than he does on television.
Speaker 2: This was maybe the most jarring thing. And there were
Speaker 2: a few different people we talked to that all had
Speaker 2: the same takeaway. Tom Steyer walking out in that suit
Speaker 2: with the sneakers looks so skinny and sickly, looking almost
Speaker 2: like a for rare level of sickly.
Speaker 1: He looked extremely elderly and extremely frail. And then when
Speaker 1: you combine in the fact that whenever he talks, his
Speaker 1: head bobs around like it's a show. Heyo, Tommy bobblehead dull.
Speaker 1: It made him look nine hundred years old.
Speaker 2: And we're sitting in the front row and there's a
Speaker 2: monitor right to the right of us, so we can
Speaker 2: see what's on stage, but you can also see the
Speaker 2: close ups of the shots that are going over the
Speaker 2: television airwaves, and it stuck with me. At one point,
Speaker 2: they're on Tom Steyer and you see his hand and
Speaker 2: he has all these weird like hashmarks or something. He
Speaker 2: was drawing things on his hand and it was really odd.
Speaker 1: He looked like he escaped from the nursing home. And
Speaker 1: then on the opposite side you have Antonio Virigosa, who
Speaker 1: is actually older than Tom Steyer, and in interviews when
Speaker 1: he's asked questions, he can get lost and he can meander,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of oz and oms and those
Speaker 1: sorts of things. But on stage, that guy was bouncing
Speaker 1: around like a kid. And during the commercial breaks he'd
Speaker 1: come up to the crowd and start working the crowd.
Speaker 2: He'd start shouting out people and when the debate ended,
Speaker 2: that all the candidates were supposed to be sequestered before
Speaker 2: they bring them out for question and answers with the media,
Speaker 2: and Antonio Viragosa runs down into the crowd and starts
Speaker 2: doing a victory lab. I want to shake everybody's hand.
Speaker 1: And who were the first two people he walked up
Speaker 1: to us? Now that could very well be because we
Speaker 1: were the two closest seats to the stairs. A third
Speaker 1: thing that jumped out at me is that on television,
Speaker 1: Matt Mahon comes across as being kind of a nerdy
Speaker 1: tech guy from San Jose. He comes across as being
Speaker 1: very thin, someone that you would see with an engineering
Speaker 1: degree hanging on the wall. In person, I thought he
Speaker 1: was much better looking than he comes across on TV.
Speaker 1: When we were entering the building and he walked up
Speaker 1: to us and he was shaking hands with the people
Speaker 1: who were around us, I had to take a second
Speaker 1: look because I didn't think that was him at first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked more dynamic in person than he comes
Speaker 2: across on the television. But yeah, I got to shake
Speaker 2: Matt Mayhon's hand, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Know how he makes that translate over the airwaves.
Speaker 4: When he's trying to.
Speaker 1: Get votes, because I think that that is a ding
Speaker 1: on him. I think there are people who are out
Speaker 1: there who think that he is one of these tech bros,
Speaker 1: and a tech bro is not a strong leader, and
Speaker 1: a strong leader can't be You have to be a
Speaker 1: strong leader to run the state of California, and if
Speaker 1: you're one of these nerdy pushovers, you can't have the job.
Speaker 4: So that was Matt Mayhon.
Speaker 1: Katie, on the other hand, who was right in front
Speaker 1: of us all night long. I don't think she's confirmed
Speaker 1: this in any interviews. She one hundred percent has to
Speaker 1: be on OZIMPK.
Speaker 3: Sorry for the noise.
Speaker 4: I'm cutting carrots.
Speaker 2: Because she looks like a half a Kadie. She has
Speaker 2: lost a lot of weight over the last year. I
Speaker 2: do remember in an interview she did, she mentioned that
Speaker 2: she has a peloton and she's enjoying being yelled at
Speaker 2: by the peloton trainers.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's more than just the peloton. That is pharmaceutical.
Speaker 2: You think she's injecting herself daily.
Speaker 1: I think she is lost, and I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: to be outrageous. I think she is lost. Between seventy
Speaker 1: five and one hundred pounds.
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely possible. If you had to ballpark it, where
Speaker 4: would you put it?
Speaker 2: I would put somewhere around that you look at. Especially
Speaker 2: what's jarring is people keep going back to the video
Speaker 2: that went around the world, and that was Katie in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Completely different face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she looks like a different person. Good for her.
Speaker 2: As someone that has also lost sixty to seventy pounds,
Speaker 2: I applaud anybody that can lose the weight. Now that
Speaker 2: being said, the personality was still there because I don't
Speaker 2: know if the camera caught this. Because there were so
Speaker 2: many people on stage, you can't see the facial reactions
Speaker 2: of all the candidates when someone else is talking.
Speaker 4: When someone would speak.
Speaker 1: Who she disagreed with, whether it was Matt Mayhan or
Speaker 1: Chad Bianco or Stevehilton or Bessera or whomever, she would
Speaker 1: have the angriest look on her face and it would
Speaker 1: just be resting right there. And at one moment, and
Speaker 1: again we didn't see it on TV, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if it got picked up. She was upset at
Speaker 1: the bickering that was going on, and she put her
Speaker 1: head on on the the lect hen in front of her.
Speaker 4: I did see.
Speaker 2: I think in one of the links to the California
Speaker 2: Post review of the debate, they got that shot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you go to the California Post, they have it.
Speaker 2: They have Katie Porter were their head down. Now, she
Speaker 2: didn't do any schmoozing at all with the crowd. Ivirra
Speaker 2: Gosa did, may had did, some of the others did.
Speaker 2: She was just up there on stage in the zone.
Speaker 2: And if she acknowledged anyone in the crowd, I didn't
Speaker 2: see it. At one point, We're gonna have to ask
Speaker 2: Hilton about this, But as the debate was starting, she
Speaker 2: was getting real chummy with Hilton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that about.
Speaker 2: Well, Steve Hilton's going to be on this show in
Speaker 2: about forty five minutes.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to ask.
Speaker 1: And during the breaks, here's another odd couple peering. Chad
Speaker 1: Bianco would talk to Tom Steyer, that was his buddy. Now,
Speaker 1: you were correct that Katie Porter and Steve Hilton did
Speaker 1: speak to one another during a break. I think Mayhan
Speaker 1: was involved in that conversation. More often than not, she
Speaker 1: was by herself. She didn't talk to a lot of
Speaker 1: the other candidates. She spent probably the least amount of
Speaker 1: time interacting with the other candidates than anyone else on
Speaker 1: that stage.
Speaker 2: I did notice one thing when they went to the
Speaker 2: second commercial break, which was after the segment of the debate,
Speaker 2: which was my favorite segment of the debate, which was
Speaker 2: Julie Watts doing the solo moderating and holding every candidate
Speaker 2: to the things that they have said in the interviews
Speaker 2: that they did with her at the at the end
Speaker 2: of that segment, Katie Porter went up to Julie Watts
Speaker 2: and said something. It looked like it was complimentary. I
Speaker 2: think Katie was trying to play nice with Julie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that interaction, along with cursing out the
Speaker 1: staff or sunk her campaign. Well to those voters.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I don't want to keep doing this, so
Speaker 5: I'm going to call it.
Speaker 6: Thank you. You're not gonna do the interview with.
Speaker 4: Them, Nope, not like this.
Speaker 7: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
Speaker 7: question you ask.
Speaker 2: So she was playing very nice with Julie.
Speaker 4: Oh she was.
Speaker 1: Now, there's been a lot of criticism about CBS News
Speaker 1: and the moderators of the debate and how they handled it,
Speaker 1: and I guess a lot of people on Twitter, particularly
Speaker 1: from the left side of the aisle and the Lincoln
Speaker 1: Project guys. They are very openly critical of the debate moderators.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it on TV, so I don't know
Speaker 1: how it came off there. I can tell you as
Speaker 1: someone who was in the room, I kind of enjoyed
Speaker 1: the fact that they were mixing it up.
Speaker 2: I like that it was the most lively debate we've
Speaker 2: had of the entire season, and there were a lot
Speaker 2: of memorable moments a lot of people. Here's the thing
Speaker 2: that I enjoy. I have seen every single one of
Speaker 2: these candidate stump speeches. I've seen all of their interviews.
Speaker 2: I know all of their can't answers, and every single
Speaker 2: one one of them got thrown off their game and
Speaker 2: had to think on their feet, and I think that's important.
Speaker 1: When they went to them the first time, it was
Speaker 1: can Ancer, can Ancer, can Ancer, and then Pat Harvey
Speaker 1: and the gentleman I forget his name, who is moderating
Speaker 1: with her for the first portion of it.
Speaker 2: That's Tony Lopez from CBS thirteen in Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Okay, Tony Lopez and Pat Harvey decided, all right, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to interact with the candidates a little bit,
Speaker 1: and we're going to try to get them to go
Speaker 1: one step further in their explanation as to how they
Speaker 1: feel about a specific issue. Now, if you're interviewing someone
Speaker 1: and they're giving you the same can answer that everyone
Speaker 1: has heard five hundred times, and you're trying to get
Speaker 1: something unique out of them, You're trying to get them
Speaker 1: to reveal a little bit more.
Speaker 4: That's what you have to do.
Speaker 1: And Pat Harvey, who has taken a lot of slings
Speaker 1: and arrows right now from people like Mike Murphy and others,
Speaker 1: she is a class act.
Speaker 4: She is not someone who is nu the game.
Speaker 1: She is not someone who just rolled out of bed
Speaker 1: and was put on TV. She's been doing the news
Speaker 1: since you and I were kids, Randy.
Speaker 2: She has been on Channel nine and then Channel two,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure my entire life. She is a legend
Speaker 2: down here in southern California. And she was being very
Speaker 2: respectful as pretty much every candidate wanted to talk over
Speaker 2: her and not listen when she said we're moving on,
Speaker 2: which is why when they got to the Julie Watts
Speaker 2: part of it, she started to think, saying, I will
Speaker 2: cut off your mic.
Speaker 4: Well and Julie Watts was magnificent.
Speaker 2: I know I'm a fanboy, but I really really enjoyed
Speaker 2: watching her moderate that every single candidate was caught off
Speaker 2: guard because what it ended up being was follow up
Speaker 2: questions to questions that she had already asked them in
Speaker 2: that interview series from earlier this year, and every single
Speaker 2: one of them got thrown off with it. And she
Speaker 2: told them to stop bringing up Trump's name too, because
Speaker 2: the subject matter that she was talking about was very,
Speaker 2: very specific to the state of California, things like insurance,
Speaker 2: those sorts of things which Donald Trump has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with. And a lot of the lefties on Twitter
Speaker 2: didn't like that. She did something kind of brilliant and
Speaker 2: she talked about it when you talked to her on
Speaker 2: the show on Monday. Is that she mentioned how many
Speaker 2: times in her interview series with all the candidates that
Speaker 2: word was brought up, and it was over a thousand
Speaker 2: and when you pointed out like that, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: the rest of the debate the word wasn't mentioned again.
Speaker 1: Now, in terms of who won who lost the debate,
Speaker 1: I have essentially three notes, and we're gonna have Steve Hilton,
Speaker 1: who is a Republican candidate for governor on the program
Speaker 1: later on, and I'm sure he has plenty of thoughts
Speaker 1: on last night's debate, and we'll get those thoughts from
Speaker 1: him later today. But note number one is that Matt
Speaker 1: Mahan had another strong performance. And it's odd that this
Speaker 1: guy from San Jose continues to go out there and
Speaker 1: put in a yeoman's effort over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: but none of it seems to translate in the polls.
Speaker 1: He may move up a point or two, I have
Speaker 1: yet to see a poll that shows him in the
Speaker 1: top two, let alone the top three. I think part
Speaker 1: of his problem is he's going after voters that don't exist,
Speaker 1: which are Democratic voters who don't like Trump at the
Speaker 1: federal level but are extremely critical of the government services
Speaker 1: that the Democrats are providing in the state of California.
Speaker 1: I just don't think many of those people exist. So
Speaker 1: he can go out there and he can put in
Speaker 1: great effort after great effort after great effort. If there's
Speaker 1: no fish in the pond that he has his poll in,
Speaker 1: that's going to be a big problem for him as we.
Speaker 4: Get closer to election day.
Speaker 1: Point number two is that the two leading Democrats in
Speaker 1: the race I thought had a poor performance. Javier Bacheria
Speaker 1: and Tom Steyer. These are two guys who are helping
Speaker 1: to put in a performance that will cause them to
Speaker 1: pull away from the other, that will cause them to
Speaker 1: be looked at as being the leader in the race
Speaker 1: and not someone who's bunched up with a bunch of
Speaker 1: other candidates. I didn't see anything spectacular from either one
Speaker 1: of them. Stier kind of just blended in with the background.
Speaker 1: There wasn't any notable exchange that he had with anyone
Speaker 1: to my eye, with the possible exception of Katie Porter
Speaker 1: calling him out on investing in oil companies, and that
Speaker 1: happened very late in the debate, and he was kind
Speaker 1: of a deer in the headlights after she did that.
Speaker 1: Xavier Bacheria seemed to get confused yet again, which is
Speaker 1: what he did in the last debate. This time he
Speaker 1: kept saying that he wanted to do something that was illegal,
Speaker 1: and the moderator, Julie Watts called him out on that.
Speaker 1: I believe one or both Republicans called him out on that,
Speaker 1: and so did Katie Porter, whose day job before she
Speaker 1: became a politician was as a law professor at UCI.
Speaker 4: So he looked confused.
Speaker 1: And he looked like a guy who was not a
Speaker 1: leader of the pack. The third thing that jumped out
Speaker 1: at me after last night's performance is that Chad Bianco
Speaker 1: clearly is aware that Steve Hilton is starting to pull
Speaker 1: away from him in the polls. Steve Hilton, of course,
Speaker 1: was endorsed by Donald Trump, and that's going to cause
Speaker 1: a lot of Republican voters to get behind him and
Speaker 1: his campaign. That's a problem for Chad Bianco. So Chad
Speaker 1: Bionco last night was thrown out partisan red meat. At
Speaker 1: every opportunity. He would blame all the Democrats on the
Speaker 1: stage for the failures of the state of California because
Speaker 1: of one party rule, and he never missed an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do that. He also went after the debate moderators.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of extras ages were I don't
Speaker 1: think that they went to him for comment on whatever
Speaker 1: subject it was that they were debating, and he let
Speaker 1: them know that he expected to have equal time, and
Speaker 1: he was certainly combative with the moderators. He was combative
Speaker 1: with the other candidates on stage. And we'll see if
Speaker 1: any of that translates with support among Republican voters. That's
Speaker 1: what I saw last night. Many of you watched it
Speaker 1: on television, maybe you streamed it on your computer, maybe
Speaker 1: you heard the audio.
Speaker 4: On the radio somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear what you thought of last night's debate.
Speaker 4: Who did well? Who did poorly? What say you?
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Speaker 1: If you missed yesterday's show and you want to go
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Speaker 1: out if our predictions were right or our predictions were wrong,
Speaker 1: that's easy to do.
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Speaker 2: interviewed Seneca Scott talking all things Oakland. We had an
Speaker 2: update from the City of Dumpy, and we had a
Speaker 2: liver update from Dana Williamson.
Speaker 1: All right, it's your turn, way in on what you
Speaker 1: thought of last night scubatorial debate at eight hundred two
Speaker 1: two two five two two two one eight hundred two
Speaker 1: two two five two two two. Let's begin with Thomas
Speaker 1: and San Jose. Thomas, Hello, Hi.
Speaker 7: John, Randy and Crewe. Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 7: I think I decided to step away from personal opinions
Speaker 7: living in Santal today pretty much my entire adult life.
Speaker 7: And I went to the statistics board and listening to
Speaker 7: the debate last night because it's important to me because
Speaker 7: my mayor, Matt, I call him Matt m At like
Speaker 7: a Matt that you step on Mayhem, m A h G. M.
Speaker 7: And I, guys, I was the one that I'm gonna
Speaker 7: tell you right now. I was the guy that started
Speaker 7: newscomb back when he was just mayor San Francisco, and
Speaker 7: it went all the way up to President Trump. I'm
Speaker 7: very proud of that. But you know what, I don't
Speaker 7: need it. I don't have a pedestal to talk on
Speaker 7: except for this one, of course. Thank you. Anyway, get
Speaker 7: to the statistics. I listened to Matt Bragg repeatedly on
Speaker 7: his commercials and last night about how he is bought
Speaker 7: the city of St to be one of the safest
Speaker 7: cities in US. And if you consider the statistics that
Speaker 7: I look up the crimegrade dot org reports that we
Speaker 7: get to see grade, it indicates that the rate of
Speaker 7: violent crime is slightly higher than that of the average
Speaker 7: US city. San Jose ranks in the thirty four percentile
Speaker 7: for safety. And then you talked about the homelessness, which
Speaker 7: is another problem that I have that I see everywhere,
Speaker 7: and he said that he has made it significantly better,
Speaker 7: and I literally looked that up too. Does Santals have
Speaker 7: a homeless problem? AI overview, Yes, Santose has a significant
Speaker 7: homelessness issue. As of early twenty twenty five, there are
Speaker 7: over six thousand, five hundred homeless residents with roughly sixty
Speaker 7: percent that's nearly four thousand people living unsheltered in encampments.
Speaker 7: While the city has reduced the number of unsheltered people
Speaker 7: by roughly twenty three percent since twenty nine, which he
Speaker 7: was not really part of through investments in interim housing.
Speaker 7: We paid for that, it remains one of the cities
Speaker 7: with the highest homeless populations in the US. So again,
Speaker 7: they're politicians people. I think we need to get together
Speaker 7: and steer away from let's pick the lesser of all
Speaker 7: evils and try to get somebody in there that is
Speaker 7: not as we say FOS. I think this guy is
Speaker 7: just trying to fast track himself, and he's got supporters,
Speaker 7: including the fake news and the statistics people that are
Speaker 7: going to put out these statistics that they're going to
Speaker 7: leave critical things out of these statistics so they can say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's the safest one of the safest largest cities. The
Speaker 7: way they word things, the way they play with the words.
Speaker 2: Well, and to that point, Thomas, that thing that you're
Speaker 2: talking about that mayhon always say that we have this
Speaker 2: study that shows that we are the safest big city
Speaker 2: in America. I remember when he touted that and we
Speaker 2: covered it because I looked up that staf and it
Speaker 2: does very specific things to pick out the numbers. And
Speaker 2: here's how you know that study is full of crap
Speaker 2: because it said, yes, San Jose is the safest big
Speaker 2: city in America, and then it said LA is number two.
Speaker 5: This is why I love you guys. You guys were
Speaker 5: enough send to people like me, and there's a lot
Speaker 5: of people like me out here. We just don't have
Speaker 5: a voice, and you guys have become our voice. I
Speaker 5: love you guys like brothers.
Speaker 7: I appreciate everything you do and I will support you
Speaker 7: in any way that I can. And I can send
Speaker 7: any statistics anywhere you want. If you guys want me
Speaker 7: to swing it over to like your ex Twitter, I
Speaker 7: can set it up there. I do send stuff to you.
Speaker 7: By the way, John, I don't know if you get it.
Speaker 7: I won't tell people mine. Look, I'm not actually getting credit.
Speaker 7: I don't tell people might handle because I don't need
Speaker 7: to get credit. I just share this stuff because like
Speaker 7: the new stunt thing that I was doing when he
Speaker 7: was destroying San Francisco, it caught on eventually because I
Speaker 7: just kept sending it. So I want to thank you,
Speaker 7: and I want to thank that people out there that
Speaker 7: are helping us try to get this stuff under control.
Speaker 7: Thank you guys so much, and thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the call, Sir Randy.
Speaker 1: Maybe next year in that survey, Oakland will be raided
Speaker 1: the safest big city in America because occasionally, when the
Speaker 1: crooks are robbing a seven eleven, they shoot and miss
Speaker 1: a lot of crime.
Speaker 2: Now I got to look. I got to see if
Speaker 2: I can find that study again. It was from quite
Speaker 2: a while ago, but I wonder where Oakland ranks on there.
Speaker 2: But that's how I understand why he says it, because
Speaker 2: he can point to that and say, look at this,
Speaker 2: and yes, San Jose is a safer city than a
Speaker 2: lot of the big cities in California, specifically La, Oakland,
Speaker 2: San Francisco. But if a study says that LA is
Speaker 2: the number two safest big city, you know their methodology
Speaker 2: makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Let's go to Jim in the Bay Area. Jim, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 4: how you guys doing today.
Speaker 8: My take on it last night, the biggest losers were
Speaker 8: the moderators. Now I didn't get to see them all
Speaker 8: yet because I taped it, but the first three, especially
Speaker 8: the first two, they couldn't control them. They just let
Speaker 8: them talk over them talk over each other. And if
Speaker 8: we didn't get any answers in the first segment and
Speaker 8: the second segment. I listened to that woman on your
Speaker 8: show the other day and I thought it was going
Speaker 8: to be pretty good, but she spent more time explaining
Speaker 8: her process than getting any commitment or answers out of
Speaker 8: the candidates.
Speaker 9: And one more thing, if we don't I've watched the
Speaker 9: last two debates, and if another Democrat gets elected, which
Speaker 9: I was a Democrat in California, I changed when Hillary
Speaker 9: Clinton was running pure evil.
Speaker 8: But if we don't get something different in this state,
Speaker 8: we're in big trouble.
Speaker 9: That's what I got to say about the whole situation.
Speaker 1: From your lips to God's ears, Let's go to Larry
Speaker 1: and Oxnard.
Speaker 3: Larry, Hello, Hi, God grace you guys, and God bless
Speaker 3: Julie Watson. If for anything getting you two in there.
Speaker 3: I thought Hilton was consistently good. Didn't have, you know,
Speaker 3: long long segments in the area when he was talking,
Speaker 3: but I liked his on the homeless issue. He can
Speaker 3: balance the compassion with you know, toughness, go following the law.
Speaker 3: You can have all a man it's amount of homeless
Speaker 3: in one area for instance, I think Bianco, you know,
Speaker 3: had he had moments. But on the fire thing, he
Speaker 3: definitely was wrong about how the question was asked. They
Speaker 3: were asking what happened if there was a fire right there?
Speaker 3: But I like his preventive measures and it was interesting
Speaker 3: that Hilton didn't criticize him unlike pass debates like the
Speaker 3: BLM kneeling issue and all that. And that goes to
Speaker 3: what you think John, Maybe you can ask Hilton this too.
Speaker 3: Do you still, John, still think that that's the best
Speaker 3: thing to vote for Bianco even though you want Hilton
Speaker 3: to win, to get the top two? Would that end up?
Speaker 3: Is there a chance that could risk hurting Hilton getting
Speaker 3: into the top two bec draw votes away from him?
Speaker 3: Or do you think the Trump endorsement is good enough?
Speaker 3: And maybe that's something you could ask Hilton what he
Speaker 3: would you know what he thinks of your strategy with that?
Speaker 1: Well, as we get closer to the election, As we
Speaker 1: get closer to the ballots going out, I'm going to
Speaker 1: provide more expansive explanation as to how I intend on voting,
Speaker 1: but the reader's digest version is that I will be
Speaker 1: voting for whichever Republican is polling second. Given the fact
Speaker 1: that Hilton was endorsed by Trump, I think it is
Speaker 1: highly likely that that candidate will be Chad Bianco, even
Speaker 1: though I personally prefer Hilton to Bianco. When you look
Speaker 1: at the field of candidates and you look at the
Speaker 1: odds of a Republican winning the governor seat, if you
Speaker 1: have a Democrat versus a Republican, the odds of a
Speaker 1: Republican winning that seat are less than one percent. It's
Speaker 1: like getting a royal flush when you're playing video poker.
Speaker 1: If you play for two Republicans on the November ballad,
Speaker 1: you're still playing against the odds. It is still more
Speaker 1: likely that you're going to get a Democrat versus a Republican,
Speaker 1: or a Democrat versus a Democrat that a Republican versus
Speaker 1: a Republican. But that being said, there are models out
Speaker 1: there that Paul Mitch has created. He's the guy that
Speaker 1: drew the lines for Prop fifty. He's very smart when
Speaker 1: it comes to statistics regarding voters and voting patterns in California.
Speaker 1: He has given us given Republicans at least, I guess.
Speaker 1: I think the high water mark was like a thirty
Speaker 1: percent chance of having a lockout, a Democratic lockout on
Speaker 1: the November ballot. So you can play for one of
Speaker 1: two things as a Republican voter. You can play for
Speaker 1: an opportunity where you have a one percent chance of winning,
Speaker 1: or you can play for an opportunity where you have
Speaker 1: up to a thirty percent chance of winning. Thirty percent
Speaker 1: means it's still likely that you lose seventy percent of
Speaker 1: the time you are going to lose, but thirty percent
Speaker 1: is better than one percent. And because of that, I'm
Speaker 1: going to play for a Republican on Republican matchup in
Speaker 1: November because that is the only way I see a
Speaker 1: Republican winning in this state. And because of that, that's
Speaker 1: how I'm going to cast my vote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it sounds and I'm glad you restated it.
Speaker 3: And the first time I heard I thought it was
Speaker 3: good advice. It'll be interesting to seat plays out. But
Speaker 3: I think Jolton might be might have heard what you
Speaker 3: said because he didn't criticize bianco as before, so I
Speaker 3: thought that was interesting. I would have liked to hear
Speaker 3: the candidates talk a little bit more, the moderators a
Speaker 3: little bit less, just on that issue as well, but
Speaker 3: appreciate the time that.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call, sir. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Chris in San Francisco. Chris, Hello, Hey, John.
Speaker 6: I just want to get your opinion. Being a political
Speaker 6: science major, did do you think Trump endorsing Hilton before
Speaker 6: more the debates are over hurts them in any way
Speaker 6: because a lot of the other candidates are using it
Speaker 6: as a lightning rod against him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it helps him in the primary. I think
Speaker 1: it hurts him in the general, and I think it
Speaker 1: hurts our chances at getting two Republicans on the November ballot.
Speaker 1: For Republicans to get two Republicans on the November ballot,
Speaker 1: Republican voters need to split their vote as close to
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty as possible. You don't want one to
Speaker 1: do significantly better than the other. You want them to
Speaker 1: come to a draw. If they split the vote fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty, that's your best shot at getting two Republicans
Speaker 1: on the November ballot. Trump endorsing Hilton makes that more
Speaker 1: difficult to do. It's still possible to do but it's
Speaker 1: just harder to do than it was before the endorsement
Speaker 1: came down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm kind of wishing Trump had endorsed Stier as
Speaker 6: a fellow billionaire.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Mike
Speaker 1: and Lakewood.
Speaker 10: Mikelow Hi, John, Hi, Randy. I think Pat Harvey did
Speaker 10: a great job. The guy that was her sidekick, I
Speaker 10: thought was kind of gave the appearance of being a phony.
Speaker 2: And well he's like Market thirteen as opposed to Market one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 10: And then Julie Watts was outstanding, although cut the candidates
Speaker 10: off quite a bit, and sometimes that was a little
Speaker 10: bit disturbing, but I understand why because they get off
Speaker 10: track and she was good at reeling them back in.
Speaker 10: I am thinking along the same lines as you, John,
Speaker 10: that I want Hilton to win, and in order for
Speaker 10: that to hopefully happen, my wife and I both are
Speaker 10: going to vote for Chad beyond Goo and uh in
Speaker 10: the in the primary, and and so hopefully that'll happen.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 10: A couple observations I think, uh uh, I don't know
Speaker 10: how anybody would vote for Styre. I mean, the guy's
Speaker 10: wearing tennis shoes and and and a suit.
Speaker 3: Not a good look.
Speaker 8: But uh uh.
Speaker 10: The other thing was I think via Via Regosa, I
Speaker 10: don't even know why he's up there in the first place.
Speaker 10: He sounded completely rehearsed and canned answers, and I'm not
Speaker 10: sure why he was even there. But anyway, those are
Speaker 10: my my observations, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you for the call. Shared. Let's go
Speaker 4: to David Whittier. Dave, welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, uh the moderators were bad.
Speaker 8: I really didn't get it. Not uh, I he didn't
Speaker 8: more from these candidates.
Speaker 7: If I had a pick a dark horse, you know,
Speaker 7: I was leaving.
Speaker 8: But Sarah, but I like Mayhan.
Speaker 3: I really liked this young man.
Speaker 7: I think he's got the right stuff.
Speaker 1: So last night was enough for you to consider at
Speaker 1: least changing your vote from Besara to Mayheon.
Speaker 8: Correct. Yes, yes, and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call, sir. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Chris in Long Beach. Chris.
Speaker 11: Hello, Hi, I'm a Chad Bianco supporter and I just
Speaker 11: want to you guys were talking about how the those
Speaker 11: candidates their appearance while I think his accent, he's going
Speaker 11: to lose a lot of voices. It's kind of aloof.
Speaker 11: And in this climate, do you think anyone's really going
Speaker 11: to vote for somebody with the last name Hilton here
Speaker 11: in California?
Speaker 4: Well, do you think they're Marriotte partisans?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 11: It just comes off as wealth and privilege and Bianco
Speaker 11: is the only one who knows how to handle crime
Speaker 11: and gangs and homeless and that's the number one issue.
Speaker 11: You guys spend half your show on it some days.
Speaker 11: And then also Mayhan. I mean, he reminds me of
Speaker 11: a younger Newsome with a stubble beard. And again I
Speaker 11: was just really, I'm really impressed with Bianco. You know,
Speaker 11: he runs a huge county, so he could easily translate
Speaker 11: that into the state of California. And he looked he
Speaker 11: looks like h you know, Kurt Russell. So it's like,
Speaker 11: you know, he looks like a bad he looks.
Speaker 4: Like Kurt Russell if he was pissed off all the time.
Speaker 11: Yeah, who need I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked his I liked his fire last night
Speaker 1: because he didn't he didn't seem to worry about upsetting
Speaker 1: the Apple card, where you have a lot of people
Speaker 1: on that stage who agree with one another on so
Speaker 1: many of the subjects. He and Hilton disagreed on many
Speaker 1: of them, but he absolutely, to borrow a phrase from
Speaker 1: Shang Tao, didn't hesitate to go ahead and throw down
Speaker 1: with one of the primarily Tony Thurman. It was Tony Thurman,
Speaker 1: who was right next to him, who he got into
Speaker 1: it with on any number of occasions, and he seemed
Speaker 1: more than happy to mix it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean again, let's hope for the fifty to fifty split,
Speaker 11: like you said, and then maybe we'll get to him
Speaker 11: to be governor.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you for the call, sir. Let's go
Speaker 4: to Rob in San Jose. Rob. Hello.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know if I want the vacuum in
Speaker 12: San Jose to be, you know, open for to get
Speaker 12: some kind of somebody who's not as stable as May
Speaker 12: and he's kind of a Dino. And it really is
Speaker 12: about the math when you look at what Hilton or
Speaker 12: Bianco wanted to do is get you know, rid of
Speaker 12: some of these energy regulations as parts their plan, and
Speaker 12: instead of a million dollars per key for the homeless,
Speaker 12: they want to get it down to maybe five hundred thousand,
Speaker 12: which is definitely you know, going to go against the
Speaker 12: union and pre invested interest in this housing preferred housing.
Speaker 12: Uh uh, you know they'll dis lobby here, but uh right,
Speaker 12: I definitely want the uh you know, to either have
Speaker 12: Bianco and and uh or Hilton. And I don't know
Speaker 12: why anybody would think the last name Hilton unless you're
Speaker 12: just the guy comes from normal upbringing.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's not part of the family that
Speaker 1: owns the hotels, so we should definitely make it a
Speaker 1: point to clarify that. And he's going to be with
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