WEBVTT - Nice Purse 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.380 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.650 George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:15.830 --> 0:00:17.229 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:17.370 --> 0:00:20.810 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:21.050 --> 0:00:22.910 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:28.890 --> 0:00:30.950 Three of the 12 jurors are speaking out about the 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.020 events that led to the mistrial in Massachusetts, revealing the 0:00:34.060 --> 0:00:38.080 panel was deadlocked 11 to 1. Three female jurors went 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.419 on in those interviews on TV to describe that their 0:00:41.500 --> 0:00:44.690 arguments got so loud that the six alternates could actually 0:00:44.729 --> 0:00:48.030 hear them outside the room. They went on to say 0:00:48.090 --> 0:00:50.809 that the sole holdout refused to listen to the rest 0:00:50.850 --> 0:00:53.090 of the jurors, including nurses on the panel. 0:00:54.690 --> 0:00:57.790 So we're about to hear from the three females who 0:00:57.830 --> 0:01:03.130 have done some interviews. Do you have any thoughts on 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.460 stuff you've heard so far about the conversations as a 0:01:06.670 --> 0:01:07.300 former juror? 0:01:08.220 --> 0:01:11.940 Just the idea that they should pay special regard to nurses, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.840 I find interesting. I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, but it's 0:01:16.940 --> 0:01:19.620 not a compelling argument. Anyway, let's hear from some of 0:01:19.660 --> 0:01:20.440 these jurors. 0:01:21.180 --> 0:01:22.220 He was very arrogant. 0:01:22.980 --> 0:01:29.390 He really did not take anything that anybody said. The nurses, 0:01:30.190 --> 0:01:34.350 he tried to ask a question about the medications, and 0:01:34.390 --> 0:01:38.590 we went back to the report from South Shore Hospital. 0:01:38.810 --> 0:01:42.380 We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.240 The nurses in the room spoke to that and talked 0:01:47.260 --> 0:01:47.560 to that. 0:01:47.580 --> 0:01:49.240 There were nurses on the jury. Yes. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.460 And they spoke to that specific thing. 0:01:53.540 --> 0:01:54.920 That was a question that he had. 0:01:56.180 --> 0:01:59.920 And he just completely disregarded the information that. 0:01:59.860 --> 0:02:00.380 They gave him. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.080 So I think we're going to have to go through 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.790 these before we get into our conversation. 0:02:05.590 --> 0:02:06.490 Sure. 0:02:06.770 --> 0:02:07.110 Roll on. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.660 I mean, he had reasonable doubt. He admitted he had 0:02:10.740 --> 0:02:13.940 reasonable doubt after we watched that video of the interview. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.079 I think that's when it was. He admitted he had 0:02:17.139 --> 0:02:20.730 reasonable doubt. And I started filling out the forms. I 0:02:20.750 --> 0:02:24.210 was so excited. I actually, there were three forms I 0:02:24.250 --> 0:02:27.169 had to fill out. And I started filling them out. 0:02:27.250 --> 0:02:30.910 I wrote my signature on each one. And then he said, 0:02:31.510 --> 0:02:34.120 but I'm still not going to say that she's not 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:35.940 guilty by reason of insanity. 0:02:36.300 --> 0:02:38.560 So, OK, I'm going to have to I'm having trouble 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.640 keeping my head wrapped around this in the same way 0:02:40.660 --> 0:02:45.060 that I can't deal with time changes very well. I 0:02:45.100 --> 0:02:48.960 can't ever figure out what spring forward fallback means. I'm 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.329 having trouble with this one. And so in most states. 0:02:55.169 --> 0:03:00.150 I kill somebody. And I don't want the chair. I 0:03:00.190 --> 0:03:02.250 got to convince the jury I'm crazy. 0:03:02.710 --> 0:03:03.230 That's correct. 0:03:03.950 --> 0:03:05.970 But in Massachusetts, it's what? 0:03:07.690 --> 0:03:11.880 Not only is it the prosecution's duty to prove that 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.000 the defendant was criminally responsible at the time of offense, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.919 they must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So the 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.560 same standard that applies for a conviction where the government 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.030 takes away your freedom or your money or whatever applies 0:03:28.130 --> 0:03:32.489 to whether you are criminally responsible or not. That's a 0:03:32.550 --> 0:03:35.620 high bar. But there, if I say I'm crazy, they 0:03:35.630 --> 0:03:40.850 got to prove I'm not crazy. Correct. The prosecution does. Yeah. 0:03:43.010 --> 0:03:46.570 Wherever else, everywhere else, the defense has to prove they're 0:03:46.610 --> 0:03:48.880 trying to get me, keep me from getting the chair. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.680 They have to prove I'm crazy. And the jury either 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:52.070 buys it or not. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.400 My understanding is Massachusetts is an extremely rare case of that. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.840 But in Massachusetts, if I say I'm crazy, you have 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.350 to assume he's crazy unless somebody can prove beyond a 0:04:01.390 --> 0:04:02.470 reasonable doubt he's not. 0:04:03.410 --> 0:04:03.650 Right. 0:04:04.170 --> 0:04:09.150 Wow, that's a really different way to approach it. Wow. 0:04:09.250 --> 0:04:09.810 One more juror. 0:04:10.750 --> 0:04:13.990 Not sure if rogue is the right word, Sue, but. 0:04:15.670 --> 0:04:18.830 Every one of us in the hours of our frustration 0:04:18.970 --> 0:04:21.210 would get up and walk the room because you just 0:04:21.250 --> 0:04:23.099 couldn't sit anymore and would all. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.480 Go to the cart with the exhibits. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.700 He, I think, got up to the cart once very 0:04:30.740 --> 0:04:32.220 briefly and went back to his seat. 0:04:33.540 --> 0:04:34.440 He would not. 0:04:36.330 --> 0:04:39.880 He would not interact with us and. 0:04:41.779 --> 0:04:42.740 Try to understand. 0:04:43.180 --> 0:04:46.580 We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:52.530 reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one 0:04:52.570 --> 0:04:54.750 day in the end, well, why don't we have the 0:04:54.790 --> 0:04:56.970 judge come in and read it again? And we were like, no, 0:04:57.510 --> 0:05:02.080 we have it in front of us. We don't need that. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.540 And we would highlight it. And, you know, so-and-so, this 0:05:06.900 --> 0:05:10.670 is the definition of reasonable. But he had the hardest 0:05:10.790 --> 0:05:14.730 time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children. 0:05:14.750 --> 0:05:16.990 Yeah, well, you know, I can understand why it's a 0:05:17.010 --> 0:05:20.430 difficult thing to get past. The fact that she strangled 0:05:20.589 --> 0:05:21.830 three little kids and you had to look at their 0:05:21.870 --> 0:05:23.570 pictures over and over again and all that sort of stuff. 0:05:24.130 --> 0:05:27.110 That leaves a mark. But for the whole. 0:05:31.100 --> 0:05:35.180 I didn't follow the trial every single day. It's hard 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.880 for me to imagine how you could prove to me 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.840 beyond a reasonable doubt that she's not crazy. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.670 Well, right. There are 14, maybe 15 states where the 0:05:46.810 --> 0:05:51.670 burden is on the state. Once the defense introduces credible 0:05:51.710 --> 0:05:54.790 evidence of mental defect, the prosecution must prove the defendant's 0:05:54.870 --> 0:05:58.250 sanity beyond a reasonable doubt. That is an odd thing 0:05:58.310 --> 0:06:02.969 to demand. Thirty of the other states, except for five, 0:06:03.170 --> 0:06:06.570 I'm sorry, except for four, say the defendant bears the 0:06:06.610 --> 0:06:10.089 burden of proving they were insane, usually by a preponderance 0:06:10.130 --> 0:06:13.680 of evidence or clear and convincing evidence. So it's interesting 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.580 that the few states, including Massachusetts, that put the burden 0:06:17.620 --> 0:06:19.700 on the prosecution, not only put the burden on the prosecution, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:25.049 but they have a much higher standard. There are four states, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, 0:06:25.089 --> 0:06:27.750 and Utah, that do not permit a traditional insanity defense 0:06:27.790 --> 0:06:30.530 at all. I don't know how that works exactly if 0:06:30.550 --> 0:06:36.150 you're completely Froot Loops, but yeah, it is the absolutely 0:06:36.770 --> 0:06:39.830 under-discussed aspect of this trial. 0:06:40.370 --> 0:06:46.320 Well, so there were five charges that they had available 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.880 to them. Those 11 wanted which one? 0:06:50.380 --> 0:06:50.820 Acquittal. 0:06:51.770 --> 0:06:53.510 Which would have been she walks out of the courtroom? 0:06:54.230 --> 0:06:57.930 No, no. Years and years and years of care in 0:06:57.950 --> 0:07:01.310 a mental health facility with annual appraisals of whether she 0:07:01.330 --> 0:07:04.550 was a danger to herself and others. Okay. Keeping in 0:07:04.570 --> 0:07:08.270 mind this woman is now apparently, allegedly, completely sane and 0:07:08.310 --> 0:07:11.550 is completely aware she choked her three children to death. 0:07:12.250 --> 0:07:12.770 Yeah. 0:07:12.950 --> 0:07:15.710 So at the point she's no longer a suicide risk, 0:07:16.030 --> 0:07:18.120 call me at home. I'm not going to wait for 0:07:18.130 --> 0:07:18.510 your call. 0:07:20.950 --> 0:07:26.770 Yeah, a lot of people have commented on that. She's 0:07:26.830 --> 0:07:29.710 no longer a danger to society. 0:07:29.730 --> 0:07:35.510 As long as she doesn't give birth to another child. 0:07:35.730 --> 0:07:38.190 Yeah, we got one text who said, how is she 0:07:38.270 --> 0:07:41.640 not like, you got to keep me locked up. I mean, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.220 look what I'm capable of. Just so I can snap 0:07:44.260 --> 0:07:48.420 and do this sort of thing. There's something wrong with me. Yeah. 0:07:50.380 --> 0:07:50.680 Horrible. 0:07:52.620 --> 0:07:54.460 So what a weird thing all the way around. So 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.250 what do you think of the whole bout? You think 0:07:56.310 --> 0:08:05.370 he was just letting his disgust with what she did 0:08:05.610 --> 0:08:08.550 override his following the law? 0:08:09.070 --> 0:08:13.270 I'm conflicted here because I agree with his conclusion. On 0:08:13.290 --> 0:08:15.450 the other hand, it seems to me a pretty clear 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.320 case of what they'll sometimes call jury nullification. Where the 0:08:19.370 --> 0:08:21.370 juror says, yeah, I understand that's the law, but the 0:08:21.390 --> 0:08:23.320 law sucks. I'm not going to be party to it. 0:08:23.650 --> 0:08:26.530 And that shouldn't happen. It's just, it's not a good 0:08:26.610 --> 0:08:30.120 thing to happen in general. That's not your job as 0:08:30.130 --> 0:08:31.900 a juror, but I understand. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.860 Boy, and this is an extreme case. 0:08:34.420 --> 0:08:35.060 Oh, yeah. 0:08:35.380 --> 0:08:37.780 There ain't no way, I don't care what you say, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.760 I can't vote to acquit this woman. 0:08:40.460 --> 0:08:40.700 Right. 0:08:40.860 --> 0:08:42.829 I've seen the pictures. I know what she did. 0:08:42.850 --> 0:08:43.610 Yeah. 0:08:43.910 --> 0:08:45.150 Like I said, I can understand it. 0:08:45.550 --> 0:08:46.020 That's a rough one. 0:08:46.730 --> 0:08:49.469 So do you have more on that topic? Or I 0:08:49.510 --> 0:08:53.410 thought this was about as well put an expression of 0:08:53.450 --> 0:08:56.050 the sentiment I have come across. I do not know 0:08:56.090 --> 0:08:59.089 this gal's name, but here she is, 68, Michael. 0:08:59.590 --> 0:09:02.569 Okay, with this Lancey Clancy child, I feel like maybe 0:09:02.830 --> 0:09:04.969 I missed the mark because I've been seeing all of 0:09:05.010 --> 0:09:08.290 y'all's videos and I'm just a woman. So maybe I 0:09:08.309 --> 0:09:10.910 just didn't understand fully. So help me out here, okay? 0:09:11.250 --> 0:09:14.020 Because what I have gathered from all of your information 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.930 that you've put out there Is that women are fully 0:09:17.170 --> 0:09:21.579 incapable of self-governing our emotions and our hormones. So if 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.459 we murder someone or multiple people, it is absolutely not 0:09:25.540 --> 0:09:28.500 our fault. It is because of our emotions and our 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.520 hormones that made us do it. Because we cannot control it. 0:09:33.570 --> 0:09:35.670 Unless we went to the doctor and we got put 0:09:35.690 --> 0:09:40.360 on medication for these hormones and emotions. But then it's 0:09:40.380 --> 0:09:42.760 the medication's fault. It's not our fault. It's not our 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.410 hormones and emotions' fault anymore because we're on medicine for it. 0:09:45.860 --> 0:09:48.080 And so then it's the medicine's fault if we murder someone. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.170 Unless it's the wrong medicine, too much medicine, not enough medicine, 0:09:52.190 --> 0:09:55.089 then it's the doctor's fault. It's definitely not our fault 0:09:55.150 --> 0:09:58.350 as women. It is the doctor's fault or the medication's 0:09:58.370 --> 0:10:01.100 fault or our hormones and emotions. but you know what 0:10:01.140 --> 0:10:03.140 else we are we are women we are to be 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.380 respected we are to be seen as equal to men 0:10:06.460 --> 0:10:08.120 we can do every job that a man can do 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.439 we can be the next president we can be police 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.020 officers we can be in high stressful jobs with weapons 0:10:15.590 --> 0:10:19.030 Unless our hormones go crazy because then our emotions and 0:10:19.070 --> 0:10:21.350 our hormones could cause us to pop off and act 0:10:21.370 --> 0:10:24.270 some type of way. But it's not our fault. It's 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.040 not our fault. It is our hormones and our emotions. 0:10:27.100 --> 0:10:29.160 Unless it's the wrong medicine, then it's the medication. Unless 0:10:29.220 --> 0:10:31.260 it's the wrong medicine, too much medicine, not enough medicine, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:32.080 then it's the doctors. 0:10:32.660 --> 0:10:33.320 That's pretty good. 0:10:34.020 --> 0:10:38.740 That's pretty damn good. The response would be, well, postpartum 0:10:38.780 --> 0:10:42.459 psychosis is a very limited and specific diagnosis of a 0:10:42.500 --> 0:10:47.770 very specific malady. It's not just emotions and hormones, et cetera, 0:10:47.809 --> 0:10:51.470 et cetera. On the other hand, the takeaway culturally is 0:10:51.820 --> 0:10:53.420 pretty much what she said. 0:10:53.820 --> 0:10:56.440 Well, and then there's been this blurring the lines of 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.780 postpartum psychosis versus postpartum depression, which is where I think 0:11:01.820 --> 0:11:03.900 a lot of the support comes in for the various 0:11:03.940 --> 0:11:06.570 women across the country holding their babies up on TikTok 0:11:06.610 --> 0:11:11.670 saying me too or whatever. which is just disgusting. 0:11:11.690 --> 0:11:12.330 Same, Lindsay. 0:11:12.630 --> 0:11:15.130 But her lawyer yesterday, I saw him on one of 0:11:15.170 --> 0:11:19.220 the TV shows saying, maybe now we can move out 0:11:19.250 --> 0:11:22.400 of the dark ages with the way we handle postpartum depression. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.420 So he blurred the lines between postpartum depression and psychosis 0:11:26.460 --> 0:11:28.280 and claims we're living in the dark ages for the 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.179 way we handle, treat women over this. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.460 Smart lawyer. I'll bet he played that in the courtroom too. 0:11:33.700 --> 0:11:35.240 I don't know. I haven't read the transcript. 0:11:35.260 --> 0:11:37.090 Or he's preparing for the next go round for her. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:43.840 Yeah, it's certainly possible. This one is so thorny and disturbing. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.200 If someone said to me, look, all of this is 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.910 really interesting, but if I design a society, it's going 0:11:52.929 --> 0:11:55.570 to say if you murder your children, you're going away 0:11:55.630 --> 0:12:00.489 for good. I would say to that person, yeah, yeah, 0:12:00.690 --> 0:12:01.250 I see your point. 0:12:01.730 --> 0:12:04.230 And I think 90% of people would agree with that. 0:12:04.250 --> 0:12:06.650 Hard to say. 0:12:07.250 --> 0:12:10.550 It is hard to say. You can get hammered drunk. 0:12:10.690 --> 0:12:12.770 You killed somebody. You're guilty. You don't get to say, 0:12:12.830 --> 0:12:14.670 I was drunk. I was out of my mind. I 0:12:14.830 --> 0:12:16.730 don't even remember it. I don't even know what happened. 0:12:17.250 --> 0:12:20.050 How about you completely lose your temper and see red? 0:12:20.830 --> 0:12:23.340 You're in a state you may never be in again 0:12:23.429 --> 0:12:25.320 as long as you live, but you have murderous rage 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.120 for two minutes and the person ends up dead. You're guilty. 0:12:29.220 --> 0:12:31.740 If you're that and drunk, you're guilty. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:33.439 Yeah. 0:12:34.110 --> 0:12:36.620 Man, that woman, that little thing she laid out, she 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:37.990 was good. She needs to have her own talk show 0:12:38.030 --> 0:12:38.390 or something. 0:12:39.030 --> 0:12:40.650 No, she'd compete with us. She sucks. 0:12:40.710 --> 0:12:41.070 Boo. 0:12:41.150 --> 0:12:44.510 Well, ladies and germs, the wait is over for one 0:12:44.570 --> 0:12:47.260 brand of pro football coming back tonight. 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Plus, next half hour, a good deal of information 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.630 on the theme of, as we approach the 25th anniversary 0:14:15.850 --> 0:14:19.150 of 9-11, radical Islam is on the march, and it's 0:14:19.310 --> 0:14:22.290 on the march in the United States, and you ought 0:14:22.310 --> 0:14:24.810 to know about it. And we have some incredibly compelling 0:14:24.930 --> 0:14:30.310 testimony from the mouths of Reformed Muslims who would like 0:14:30.350 --> 0:14:33.940 to make it clear exactly what the risks are. So 0:14:33.980 --> 0:14:36.320 I hope you can stay tuned for that. One more piece. 0:14:36.340 --> 0:14:37.420 It's this century's nightmare. 0:14:37.700 --> 0:14:38.060 That's right. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:38.620 Jihadism. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.979 That's true. A quick note. FIRE, the Foundation for Individual 0:14:44.020 --> 0:14:46.660 Rights and Expression, are out with their college free speech 0:14:46.730 --> 0:14:50.970 rankings and 121 out of the 261 schools got an 0:14:51.230 --> 0:14:53.930 F for their speech climate. We'll be diving into that. 0:14:53.950 --> 0:14:58.270 But the kids got an A. So true. 0:14:58.310 --> 0:14:58.489 Yeah. 0:14:58.530 --> 0:15:02.350 The percentages of the students who find shouting down a 0:15:02.410 --> 0:15:06.940 speaker or blocking people from attending or using violence to 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.640 stop them from speaking. The number of kids who find 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.200 that acceptable will shock you to your core if you'd 0:15:13.220 --> 0:15:15.540 like to be shocked to your core. But first, this 0:15:15.620 --> 0:15:20.260 story on Australian woman has given birth to twins conceived 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:26.130 by separate fathers. Oh, boy. Katie, that was exactly the 0:15:26.170 --> 0:15:29.170 sort of look. That was, that was, uh, wait, what? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.660 Yeah, the math isn't mathing. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:30.960 How? 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.400 In what is believed to be the country's first such case, 0:15:34.460 --> 0:15:39.300 the mother from Queensland was carrying a couple's IVF embryo 0:15:39.850 --> 0:15:43.550 when she became pregnant in the natural fashion last year. 0:15:43.570 --> 0:15:44.730 Sorry for calling you a slut. 0:15:48.330 --> 0:15:54.290 Well, for all we know, she is entirely monogamous and 0:15:54.530 --> 0:15:57.390 reliable as a partner. 0:15:57.470 --> 0:15:59.770 I jump to conclusions. 0:16:00.050 --> 0:16:04.890 And yet a surrogate mother. So she gave birth to 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.960 a boy, which was hers, and a girl, which was 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:13.340 a different couple's, as she was the surrogate. Wow. In 0:16:13.420 --> 0:16:15.440 November of last year, apparently. 0:16:15.460 --> 0:16:16.820 Are they considered brother and sister? 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.950 There was. That's a great question. There was no dispute 0:16:21.010 --> 0:16:23.930 over parenthood. And the couples have been raising their children 0:16:24.070 --> 0:16:31.610 separately since their birth. But the case became public because. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.720 The babies just split ways. It's been real. It's been fun, 0:16:34.740 --> 0:16:38.560 but it ain't been real fun. See you later. Good hang. Yeah. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.290 Yeah. Hey, you're a good roommate. I appreciate the courtesy, 0:16:41.410 --> 0:16:45.260 but I'm off. Yeah, exactly. So this is in court 0:16:45.340 --> 0:16:49.160 now because the state has surrogacy laws that ban the 0:16:49.210 --> 0:16:53.810 separation of birth siblings. You can't become a breeding sow 0:16:53.890 --> 0:16:56.950 and just knock out as many kids, twins or triplets 0:16:56.990 --> 0:16:59.230 or whatever, and sell each one to a different couple 0:16:59.270 --> 0:17:03.580 or whatever. They have laws against that. So one judge 0:17:03.620 --> 0:17:06.240 has ruled that the babies were not birth siblings under 0:17:06.260 --> 0:17:10.060 the laws in the unique case. They were gestational twins. 0:17:11.619 --> 0:17:11.840 Hmm. 0:17:12.619 --> 0:17:12.840 Hmm. 0:17:13.530 --> 0:17:14.050 Who knows? 0:17:14.350 --> 0:17:17.270 Sounds like I got complicated quickly. Yeah. 0:17:17.369 --> 0:17:17.770 Yeah. 0:17:17.830 --> 0:17:18.050 Yeah. 0:17:18.070 --> 0:17:21.120 You're already pregnant. Don't be going having sex with some other. 0:17:21.220 --> 0:17:22.580 Of course, you probably did. She probably didn't think I 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.500 could get pregnant again. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:29.620 Oh, right. Why was she ovulating? 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.790 If you have sex with your. Why are you ovulating? 0:17:33.030 --> 0:17:35.470 You know, like if you have sex with your pregnant wife, 0:17:35.490 --> 0:17:36.969 you don't think, oh, God, this is going to lead 0:17:37.010 --> 0:17:38.630 to twins. You don't think that. 0:17:39.730 --> 0:17:43.050 Or maybe two babies three months apart, six months, or 0:17:43.090 --> 0:17:45.280 maybe a baby every month and a half. Your wife 0:17:45.300 --> 0:17:51.100 would kill you for that, and you would deserve it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:17:51.260 --> 0:17:53.760 You know what we don't have time for? You can 0:17:53.780 --> 0:17:57.040 figure out the rest. This story comes out every few years. 0:17:57.540 --> 0:18:01.100 Silicon Valley executives are big tech fans, but not for 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:05.100 their own kids. The number of tech heavyweights who say, 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.820 no freaking way, my 14-year-old's on social media. It ought 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.060 to get your damn attention. 0:18:10.340 --> 0:18:10.679 Wow. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.500 That maybe in the hour four we can get into that. Sobering, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.800 and I hate being sobered. Coming up next half hour, though, 0:18:21.020 --> 0:18:24.479 the 9-11 families, by the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, 0:18:24.530 --> 0:18:26.770 are saying to Mamdani, stay away. And I think they've 0:18:26.790 --> 0:18:29.130 got a damn good case. We'll get into that. 0:18:29.510 --> 0:18:31.450 If you miss it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty 0:18:31.510 --> 0:18:31.970 on demand. 0:18:33.890 --> 0:18:41.560 Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.720 Mayor Mamdani plans to actually attend the September 11th ceremonies 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.490 marking the 25th anniversary of the terrorist attacks. 0:18:52.670 --> 0:18:53.570 But this is nice. 0:18:53.570 --> 0:18:56.290 19 of his family members are also flying in. 0:18:56.310 --> 0:18:57.910 Oh, wow. 0:18:58.570 --> 0:19:01.840 That's a heck of a joke. Now you support him? 0:19:04.390 --> 0:19:06.350 We're going to get back to the question of Mamdani 0:19:06.430 --> 0:19:09.390 at the 9-11 festivities in a moment or two. We've 0:19:09.410 --> 0:19:13.770 been talking a fair amount about the AI doomers today, 0:19:13.830 --> 0:19:17.609 including a fellow who just quit, Anthropic. And that may 0:19:17.670 --> 0:19:20.620 or may not come to visit mankind. But I will 0:19:20.650 --> 0:19:23.920 tell you this with 100% certainty. There is a massive 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.840 worldwide political movement that aims to conquer the Western world 0:19:27.900 --> 0:19:31.780 in the name of a brutal fundamentalist religion slash political system. 0:19:32.260 --> 0:19:35.380 That is called Islam. Fundamentalist Islam is on the march 0:19:35.420 --> 0:19:38.080 and they're in the United States in large numbers. And 0:19:38.780 --> 0:19:42.370 if we, these 25 years after 9-11, have forgotten that, 0:19:42.420 --> 0:19:45.630 it's time to remember in a big damn hurry for 0:19:45.650 --> 0:19:47.750 a couple of reasons. Number one, the threat's never gone away. 0:19:47.770 --> 0:19:50.180 And number two, we were talking the other day about 0:19:50.220 --> 0:19:53.300 how in the Communist Manifesto, Marx says, we will support 0:19:53.540 --> 0:19:56.609 any movement that aims to overthrow the current political and 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:01.550 social structures. And from the perspective of a Marxist, I 0:20:01.670 --> 0:20:06.440 see fundamentalist islam is holy cow they got the numbers 0:20:06.820 --> 0:20:10.580 they've got the fervor they're absolutely adamant that they want 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.500 to overthrow the current system they're willing to die for 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.140 their cause oh yeah exactly they're the perfect allies then 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.000 you know then when the the system falls we got 0:20:20.020 --> 0:20:23.320 to make sure we get them but quick because they're 0:20:23.340 --> 0:20:26.820 brutal meanwhile the fundamentalist muslims are thinking the same thing 0:20:27.020 --> 0:20:30.580 about um the communists and who wins is an open 0:20:30.619 --> 0:20:34.480 question in the places where they're successful. I aim to 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.920 do whatever little I can to make them not successful 0:20:36.940 --> 0:20:39.600 in the United States of America. So having opened with that, 0:20:40.619 --> 0:20:45.129 a little context to the discussion. Osama bin Laden and 0:20:45.250 --> 0:20:51.290 his hijackers are killing more people now or in the 0:20:51.310 --> 0:20:54.629 past several years than they killed on 9-11. The number 0:20:54.650 --> 0:21:01.199 of 9-11 cancer victims has skyrocketed About 1,700% over the 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:05.020 past decade, fueled by rare variations of cancer, according to 0:21:05.060 --> 0:21:08.340 stats released as the 25th anniversary nears. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.139 That's the cause that Jon Stewart's been on for all 0:21:11.180 --> 0:21:12.180 these years in New York? 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.580 Yeah, to his credit. Cancer certifications among Twin Towers survivors, 0:21:16.619 --> 0:21:19.670 downtown Manhattan residents, and workers on or near the pile 0:21:20.109 --> 0:21:22.350 have exploded from 3,200 in 2015 to 57,000-plus this year. 0:21:22.410 --> 0:21:22.480 Wow. 0:21:27.670 --> 0:21:30.590 For the obvious reasons that cancer takes a while to 0:21:30.630 --> 0:21:32.490 develop from whatever cause. 0:21:32.650 --> 0:21:34.790 Do they know what they were breathing in that caused it? 0:21:36.430 --> 0:21:41.300 There are probably 150 different things that are suspected or 0:21:41.390 --> 0:21:45.360 known to have caused the cancer. They're losing two clients 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.500 a day and see a new cancer certification every 50 minutes. 0:21:49.540 --> 0:21:52.159 This is a law firm that represents survivors. For the 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.619 first time, the number of cancer cases among survivors who 0:21:54.660 --> 0:21:57.719 resided in or around, etc., has now surpassed. the number 0:21:58.010 --> 0:22:00.949