1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: One oh five in the afternoon on The John Phillips Show, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Sacramento, California, back in Fresno on Monday 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and in Southern California on Tuesday, Mister Randy Ways in 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Culver City. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: John, residents in Westchester are pissed off because they say 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: way mos are taking all their parking spaces. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Well, the bike lanes are taking all their lanes for 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: driving around town into. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, now that we have the self driving car, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: now that we're seeing all the technology of the flying car, 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: it's finally time to get to the Jetsons trifecta. When 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: are they going to make the car that turns into 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: the suitcase? 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine all the sigal arts in the sky? 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: two two two. And One of the topics that we 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time talking about on this program 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: are the non for profits the NGOs that receive a 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of government money. These organizations are not governmental per se, 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: but they rely on government money to operate, and as 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: it turns out, they frequently involve politically connected people being 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: at the top of the pyramid who are paid quite handsomely, 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: and many of them don't perform the task that they're 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: supposed to perform in exchange for the government money that 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: they receive. So many of the homeless services organizations fit 27 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: this example, where they're paid gobs of money by the 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: government to reduce the number of people living on the streets. 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: They get rich, and the number of people living on 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: the streets increases from where it was before. But no 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: one ever blows the whistle. No one ever calls them out, 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: because why would you call out someone who's politically connected. 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Many of them also participate in political activities, something that 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do. But this is the world 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: that we live in, and it seems like, at least 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: for some of them, people are starting to blow the whistle. 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: We know, for example, Nick Shirley and CBS News in 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: the San Fernando San Fernando Valley blew the whistle on 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the hospice fraud. That's a little bit 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: different type of fraud than the one I'm talking about, 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: but you get the idea. Taxpayers are upset that their 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: money is being wasted and people are getting rich when 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be working in a non for profit 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: for an altruistic reason. Well, one of these nonprofits that's 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: been on our radar for quite a while is now 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: on the chopping block, or at least part of its 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: budget is on the chopping block because they're under the microscope. 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Look, there's a lot of budget cuts that need to 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: happen in sale San Francisco, but it is long overdue 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: to start looking at cutting the budget of Urban Alchemy, 51 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: a nonprofit operating in San Francisco as well as places 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: like Culver City and Portland that well, London breed. You 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: tell us about Urban Alchemy. 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: People have been stabbed in Earthen Alchemy, They've been shot, 55 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: they've been attacked, and they still show up every single 56 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: day as an alternative to policing for this community. 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm shocked she didn't win reelection. But Urban Alchemy is 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: the organization that funds street Ambassadors, the people in the 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: yellow jackets that don't actually have any law enforcement experience. 60 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: A lot of them are ex cons. Some would call 61 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: these programs jobs programs for the unemployable. They also operate 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: a few homeless shelters in San Francisco, with not a 63 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: whole lot of success, and there have been a lot 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: of doc minted cases in some of the shelters that 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: they operate in Portland that a lot of the urban 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: alchemy practitioners were also the people dealing the drugs to 67 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: the people living in the shelter. Great, but let's see 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: what's going on with the potential cut to urban alchemy 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Here's a report from KPIX in the Bay. 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: Just a couple of weeks left in the fiscal year, 71 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: the San Francisco Board of Supervisors is going through Mayor 72 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: Daniel Lurie's proposed budget with a fine toothed comb. Laurie 73 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: says he's working to close a nearly six hundred and 74 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: fifty million dollar deficit. 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: And you know, there are a lot of places that 76 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: you could trim a lot of fat, like for instance, 77 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: luriy has said he doesn't like the harm reduction programs. Well, 78 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: we should cancel all the contracts to all the needle 79 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: distribution programs throughout San Francisco. They said they got rid 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: of them, but they're still there. 81 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: More than one hundred city workers have been laid off 83 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: and four hundred vacant positions could go unfilled to help 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: close them gap. But as that debate is happening in 85 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: city hall, Brad Hamilton reports one San Francisco nonprofit is 86 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 4: pushing forward with its mission despite the uncertainty over future funding. 87 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: Do you remember it was a couple of years ago. 88 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: LeAnn Melendez of ABC seven in the Bay had a 89 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: fantastic report on Urban Alchemy and their practitioners, and they 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: broke down how much money the organization gets paid for 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: what they do. And what they found out was the 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: people walking up and down the tenderloin. The ambassadors were 93 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: getting paid eight dollars for every contact they had with 94 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: the homeless, and a contact would be described as helping 95 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: somebody out, connecting them with services, or offering them a cigarette. Hey, 96 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: you want a cigarette? Eight dollars. That's how much the 97 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: city pays for that. 98 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: And then we have to pay to treat the lung 99 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: cancer too. 100 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: Inside of a modest San Francisco office, Urban Alchemy's Heart 101 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: Program huddles up, mapping out what could be an unpredictable shift. 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: Michael Pallito is one of the program's team leaders. He 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 5: says it's a different kind of response unit, one that's 104 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 5: built on lived experience. 105 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: As one of those terms that drives me crazy. 106 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Because it means nothing. If you've been on the planet 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: a while and you haven't died, you have lived experience. 108 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: What kind of credential is that? 109 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: Lived experience is what causes homeless boards and agencies to say, 110 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: you know who we need to have in charge the. 111 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Homeless or gang members. 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: There's that too. 113 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: Pollito is one of the program's team leaders. He says 114 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: it's a different kind of response unit, one that's built 115 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: on lived experience. 116 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 6: Probably around the age of sixteen, I was arrested given 117 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: life without parole. 118 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: Oh boy, whoa. You don't get that for shoplifting. 119 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 6: For some poor decision making on my part when I 120 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: was a kid. After thirty three years, I was taking 121 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 6: a court and you know, I had the charges dropped 122 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: and giving the opportunity to actually come out here and 123 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 6: be a productive member of society. 124 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: I want to know more about this story. 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: What do you have to do in the state of 126 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: California to get thirty three years behind bars as a juvenile. 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to imagine he was part of some kind 128 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: of gang shooting. 129 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, gag shooting. I don't even think you get that 130 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: for killing one person. There has to be a box 131 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: score for what this guy did well. And here's where 132 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I have a big issue with our whole system that 133 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: they call in California CDCR, the California Department of Corrections 134 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: and Rehabilitation. This guy was in prison for thirty three 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: years and he comes out with zero job skills. So 136 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the only thing he can do is work for Urban Alchemy. Well, 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: don't forget Randy. He had quote unquote life experience. 138 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: And that is exactly what he's doing these days. His 139 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: office is now a car and his day is dictated 140 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 5: by the next call. Hard teams respond to nonviolent, non 141 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: medical nine one one and three one one calls. 142 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: And then you call nine one one when that person 143 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: stabs you. 144 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Okay, just think about this for a second. They don't 145 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: want to send the cops in dangerous situations because you know, 146 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: we don't want people to have bad experiences with the 147 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: black and whites. So let's send a guy in who 148 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: spent the last thirty three years of his life in 149 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: prison for doing god knows what. Because if there's anything 150 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: that this guy knows, it's how to diffuse the situation. 151 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: They call this it's another term that drives me crazy. 152 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: Trusted messengers. This guy will be trusted in the community 153 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: because he's been in prison for thirty years. 154 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 5: What situations involving people in crises often struggling with homelessness 155 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: or mental health challenges. 156 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: And you know it's gonna make them feel a lot 157 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: better A loose cigarette. 158 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 6: How three the dispatch we're on scene. 159 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 5: The first stop comes quickly, but when they arrive, the 160 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: person in crises has already left. 161 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 6: If PD responded to this, they would have been wasting 162 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 6: a little bit of time. 163 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: Wait, you showed up and they weren't even there. 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: You wasted time too, So what he's saying is they're 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: never here when you show up, So waste my time 166 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: and not a police officers because I'm cheaper. 167 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: Just it's thirty. 168 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Except it's not cheaper because we're paying for And this 169 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: is by the way, this is one of the things 170 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: that drives me crazy about DSA ringleader Unices Hernandez in 171 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: the City of Los Angeles. 172 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 6: Because we are the defund the police people. 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Right because her Nandez says, we need these kinds of 174 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: christ this ambassadors. We need to have all these unarmed 175 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,479 Speaker 2: response teams because there's so much cheaper than the police, 176 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: and she will break it down where you know what, 177 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: it's only like sixty dollars a call if you go 178 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: through my people. It's like one hundred and thirty dollars 179 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: a call if we go through the police. And that's 180 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: just not true because we're still paying for the police, 181 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: and we're paying for this other force now, so now 182 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: every call costs one hundred and eighty dollars. I came 183 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: from California public schools, and I can do that math. 184 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to make any assumptions here, but it 185 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: looks like that the individual writing shotgun to this guy 186 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: who spent thirty three years in prison is a transgendered woman. 187 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Am I seeing this correctly? Let me I got to 188 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: rewind the tape. I didn't notice that. Is that the 189 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: modern day Barney Fife? 190 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: What makes you think that she's trends? 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't know the Adams Apple. 192 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: Let's move on. 193 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 5: But when they arrive, the person in crises has already left. 194 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 6: If PD responded to this, they would have been wasting 195 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 6: a little bit of time. 196 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: In just its third year, Urban Alchemy and the Heart 197 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: team say they've responded to more than twenty three thousand incidents, 198 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 5: including nearly nineteen thousand, nine to one one and three 199 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: one one calls. 200 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: Why is this team responding to nine one one calls? 201 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: Why instead of a certified, badged, armed trained police officer, 202 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: are we sending somebody who's been in prison for thirty years? 203 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Not the same thing. 204 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like no one at any level and 205 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: this process has any judgment. 206 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: Michael back with Michael. There's no time to dwell. It's 207 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: always another call, and this one is trespassing. 208 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 7: For now. 209 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 8: Time is twelve twenty Again. 210 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: You don't see lights or handcuffs, just a conversation and 211 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: hopefully a connection. Michael says, this work is personal. 212 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: You know, instead of getting the person who is trespassing 213 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: to move along, let me shake their hand, offer them 214 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: a cigarette, and maybe we'll become friends and I can 215 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: beg them to leave. 216 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's an approach. 217 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: A lot of us were homeless at some point, you know. 218 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 6: I remember hitting soup kitchens when I got out and 219 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 6: going to to to pantries, and I remember going to 220 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: the library for the free WiFi until I can get 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: myself a job. 222 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what you did in the library. I'm 223 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: sure that's all you did. 224 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So this guy obviously killed someone or somebodies, did 225 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: thirty three years in prison. Once he was released from prison, 226 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: spent a period of time homeless, living on the streets. 227 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: Is there any branch on the tree he hasn't hit? 228 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: And this is the thing. We let people out without 229 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,479 Speaker 2: any actual pathway to success except for the jobs programs 230 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: for the un employable, which are what a lot of 231 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: these NGOs do. Whether it's urban alchemy or healing urban barrios, 232 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: or people assisting the homeless, a lot of these things are. 233 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: And the reason that you have all these government contracts 234 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: going towards all of these NGOs is because they can 235 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: hire the unemployable. You cannot work for the city if 236 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: you have that kind of background. You would not pass 237 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: a background check. But it's okay if we go all 238 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: through a shell company NGO. 239 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: So here's what I think is actually happening. I don't 240 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: think that they actually expect him to reduce the number 241 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: of people living on the streets or to perform the 242 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: role of law enforcement. I think what they're doing is 243 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: they're taking someone who is not employable, and they are 244 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: giving him a paycheck and forcing him to clock in 245 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: and clock out five days a week as essentially money 246 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: so that he doesn't go back to murdering people. 247 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: Well, you're hiers percent right about that. Remember when Karen 248 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: Bass was giving her budget presentation to Black Lives Matter 249 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: before she gave the budget presentation to the City of 250 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and she talked about the gang interventionists that 251 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: she even though they had to make a lot of 252 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: cuts in the budget because there was a billion dollar deficit, 253 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: she needed to give a fifty percent raise to the 254 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: gang interventionists that were walking through the streets of skid 255 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: row because she said, if they're only making forty thousand 256 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: dollars a year, they'll just go back to a life 257 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: of crime, so we have to pay them sixty thousand 258 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: dollars a year. 259 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Well, and at one point in Oakland, wasn't there a 260 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: program where they were paying people money, cold hard cash 261 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: if you didn't shoot anyone or didn't get shot. 262 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: That was actually in San Francisco. 263 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So there you go. That's what I think is 264 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: going on here. I think we're giving this guy a job, 265 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: a walkie talkie, an iPad in a W two so 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have more free time to ill people. 267 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: These jobs are universal basic income for felons, universal basic 268 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: income for the unemployable, because we have decided that if 269 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: we don't pay these people, they're just going to continue 270 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: to victimize us. And all the money we spend for 271 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: all these programs in prison apparently don't amount to anything, 272 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: because this guy was in prison for thirty years. I 273 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: don't see him learning how to code. 274 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: And I assume they're politically connected people at the top 275 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: skimming what they think belongs to them. 276 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh, the people who are at the top of Urban 277 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: Alchemy have made a lot of money scamming not just 278 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: cities in California, but also in Portland and I believe 279 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: at one point in Austin as well. 280 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: And now he's using that past to teach people who 281 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: often feel forgotten. Michael calls this life saving work, and 282 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: he means it for both the people he works with 283 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: and himself now. 284 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: In September of last year, it was reported that the 285 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: City Controllers Office had flagged the program for potential finance 286 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: violations and. 287 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: You don't say yep on. 288 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: A nonprofit watch list, but an official with Urban Alchemy 289 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: and the Controller's office confirmed that issue has since been resolved. 290 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: And the group was removed from the list before last 291 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: year ended. The Board of Supervisors is scheduled to make 292 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: their final budget vote next week. 293 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: So there you go, the life in the times of 294 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: a man working for Urban Alchemy. What he actually does, 295 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: nobody knows, but it costs us a whole lot of 296 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: money to make sure he doesn't go back to a 297 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: life of crime. 298 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Now, this report from KPIX, it seemed like the reporter 299 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: was very sympathetic to the guy from Urban Alchemy, and 300 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: I get it. If I'm riding shotgun with him on 301 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: a shift, I don't want to piss him off either. 302 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: But come on, these are jobs programs for the unemployable. 303 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: We should just all be on it about that at 304 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: this point. 305 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I think this is the model these NGOs, 306 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: these non for profits right now. It's being used in 307 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: this particular case for the ex cons or people who 308 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: should still be in prison, which is a better description. 309 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: But I think you're going to see the expansion of 310 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: this to other people. If you have a degree in 311 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: gender studies, what can you do in this modern economy? 312 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: And the answer is nothing unless you get a job 313 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: at one of these groups where you're performing phantom work 314 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: and you're getting money indirectly from the tracks payers. 315 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: And it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to stay 316 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: away from a life of crime. We have seen thanks 317 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: to the big raids going on in MacArthur Park, somebody 318 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: who is paid to pass out needles from people assisting 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: the homeless, well he was caught drug dealing. Somebody who 320 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: is working for healing Urban Barrios still had active gang connections. 321 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: So we are paying not just a lot of x 322 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: con on all this money through NGOs, we're also paying 323 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: a lot of active criminals to be working for cities 324 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: and counties through nonprofits like Urban Alchemy. 325 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: It's the John Phillips Show. It's the John Phillips Show. 326 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 327 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 328 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: two two two. 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Good luck dialing. 373 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: And right now it's time to open up the California 374 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Crime Blodder. 375 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 8: It's happened yet again. Nice see. Time for the California 376 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 8: crime blodder and Randy. 377 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: You predicted that the World Cup would make it at 378 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: some point or another, and that prediction has come true. 379 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: Mexico beat Korea, and the entire city of Los Angeles 380 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: descended into chaos. 381 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: Now wait a minute, when you say Mexico beat Korea, 382 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: are you talking about North or South Korea? 383 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: South Korea, I don't know. If North Korea participates in 384 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: the World Cup. 385 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: You never know. 386 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: For more on this, we go to report from ABC 387 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: seven in Los Angeles. 388 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: We have new video just into our newsroom, a huge 389 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 7: World Cup celebration in Korea town ending with fights. 390 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: What is it about sports that if there's a win, 391 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: people go insane? 392 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would assume that if you're pissed. 393 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, did the microphone go away already? Well, it's 394 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: about that time. Usually an hour and a half into 395 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: the show is when this thing doesn't work anymore. And 396 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: it's in that way every single day. Yep, switched my 397 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: feed again. Now let's see if all right, he's gonna 398 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: pop onder the clean feed. Now here we go every 399 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: single day, it's been this same problem. There's a lot 400 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: of things I would like to say right now, but 401 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to be polite. Johnny's gonna dial back in 402 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna get to this crime blodder story. Johnny, 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: you ready, I'm ready. Alrighty, let me boost your audio 404 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: real quick because it's. 405 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: Not loud enough. 406 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: Here we go, all right, Johnny's back in the game. 407 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: Let's start this story all over. 408 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 7: We have new video just into our newsroom. A huge 409 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 7: World Cup celebration in Koreatown, ending with fights, shots fired, 410 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 7: and a citywide tactical alert. A ups truck overtaken, trampled, 411 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 7: thousands of people packed watch party. 412 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Imagine if your package was in that truck. That sounds 413 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: like quite a celebration. Right, We're still happy our team won. 414 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: Let's destroy the neighborhood that we live in. 415 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: You know, maybe you've got it right being an Angel fan, 416 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: because Anaheim's never gonna burn. 417 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: No, you have to win to do that. By the way, 418 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: we gave up five runs in the first inning last night. 419 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Guess what the final score was? 420 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 8: Five? 421 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Nothing? 422 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Yep. Guess who was in line with the for his 423 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: hot dog when all the runs were scored. 424 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, you made the plan to go up there, did 425 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: you expect them to do? 426 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Well? No, I didn't. 427 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 7: He's for Mexico's won nothing win over South Korea, but 428 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 7: as the night went on, police say things got out 429 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 7: of hand. Eyewitness news supporter Abigail Vella is live at 430 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 7: LAPD's Olympic Division near Korea Town. 431 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 9: Abigail, Well, hey, Mark, it was really fun until it wasn't. 432 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 9: We left Ktown about an hour ago for our own safety. 433 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 9: That's why we're here at this police station because things 434 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 9: definitely got out of hand. 435 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 10: I've never seen anything like that. 436 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 9: Before, which is so unfortunate because all day we were 437 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 9: talking about community and friendships in this unique way that 438 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 9: Mexicans and Koreans consider each other family. But as the 439 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 9: celebrations grew, so did the problems. It was an eventful 440 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 9: night in Koreatown to say the least. 441 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: Boy, this sounds like so much fun. These watch parties 442 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: are a great idea. 443 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: It was so violent. She had to do the report 444 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: from the police station because everything else was too wild. 445 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 9: Yep, thousands of people packed Sole International Park in Koreatown 446 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 9: Wednesday night to watch Mexico take on South Korea and 447 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 9: the World Cup. It's all love and it's on community, 448 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 9: and I love how everyone's here together. 449 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: May the best gun that way. 450 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: Well, of course Mexico's going to beat the Koreans. At that, 451 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: they'll do their bulgogy though. See that's what you would say. 452 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: What's better bulgogi or karne? No she wents a home 453 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: game there. 454 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 9: For most of the night, fans said the best part 455 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 9: wasn't the game itself. 456 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 6: Both sides showing for each other. 457 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: I think that's cool. 458 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: To see anything well, because it's a lot of not scoring. 459 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I can't get excited over soccer. I'm sorry. I have 460 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: to watch a sport where the over under is more 461 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: than one. 462 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: Although there are some baseball games where it's that. 463 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: If the Angels play a team that can't score. 464 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 9: Yes, neighborhood where both Korean and Mexican communities have deep roots, 465 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 9: people showed up to celebrate together. 466 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 10: I think we have mutual respect for one. 467 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: Another in it, or you didn until it got dark. 468 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: Then when the lights went down, the animosity came out. 469 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: I think that has really fraud them, both Mexicans and 470 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 6: Koreans together, and there was plenty to celebrate. 471 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 9: Mexico beat South Korea one to nothing. 472 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: Nothing like that one nothing win. 473 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if there was someone at the game like 474 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: me where they went out to get their hot dog 475 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: and missed the one moment of action you imagine. 476 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: Maybe you decide you couldn't hold it any longer, you 477 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: need to go to the bathroom. You're standing in the line, 478 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: you finally get to the urinal, and then in the 479 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: background you here, well, it's. 480 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: A World Cup game. Maybe you weren't even lying in 481 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: line to go to the bathroom or to get a 482 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: hot dog. Maybe we're just going to get your narcan 483 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: because someone was odeing on fentanyl in your section. 484 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 9: As the night went on and the crowd grew, things 485 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 9: started to change. The fights weren't the only problem. Laped says. 486 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 10: A man was shot in the leg after someone was 487 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 10: firing in the air. 488 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: What a bad shot? Why oh, why oh? 489 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: Why do I live in the same society as people 490 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: dumb enough to fire a gun in the air because 491 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: a sports team won. And how drunk do you have 492 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: to be to confuse the thigh of a Korean man's 493 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: leg with a blue sky? Again, I don't think he 494 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: shot at the Korean man. I think he shot in 495 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: the sky. And what goes up must come down into 496 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: some guy's leg. 497 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: So the bullet just happened to come down directly into 498 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: the leg of a Korean man. 499 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: Sounds like it. 500 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 9: The person was taken into custody. Then thousands of people 501 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 9: spilled onto Olympic Boulevard bars. 502 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute, how could you trace the bullet 503 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: back to a man that you then arrest if you 504 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: shoot it off into the sky and it lands at 505 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: a Korean man's. 506 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: Leg, well, was he still holding the gun? 507 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: Here's what I think hap and he pointed the gun 508 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: into the sky and goes, my team won. Yay, bang 509 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: bang bang bang bang. Your team lost, and you're not 510 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: going to be scoring any goals with that legue, mister bang. 511 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 9: Capacity police eventually shut down part of the street and 512 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 9: formed a skirmish line to control the crowd. 513 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 10: By nine pm, about an hour. 514 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: Alcohol it makes you do very stupid things. 515 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: Well, and keep in mind when they play these games, 516 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: it's not like they just start drinking when the game ends. 517 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: All of these people have been drinking since seven in 518 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: the morning. 519 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 10: You know. 520 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: It's really embarrassing. And I haven't seen a lot of 521 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: the coverage because their games being played all over the 522 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: country and all over the continent. Really, they're games being 523 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: played at Vancouver, games being played in Mexico City, There's 524 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: also been games played in Philadelphia, and I don't think 525 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: the Philly crowds are this rowdy. 526 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: And they boost Santa Claus. 527 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 9: Hour after the match ended, LAPD had issued a citywide 528 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 9: tactical alert. 529 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 10: Meanwhile, downtown. 530 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 9: Families gathered at La Place Delari, a reminder that for 531 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 9: most fans, this night was about community just as much 532 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 9: as soccer. 533 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: Don't bring your kids to a watch party. 534 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no bad idea. 535 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 10: Yeah. 536 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 9: Well, LAPD says they've obviously received a lot of disturbance 537 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 9: and assault calls. We don't have the specific numbers on 538 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 9: those quite yet, but I do want to remind to 539 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 9: everyone that there still are people out and about, so 540 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 9: if you can behave, please do so. 541 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: If not, they're begging with people to follow the rules. 542 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: If you can behave, please do so. What if you 543 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: just got out of the state pen after thirty three 544 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: years and you're not big on behaving. 545 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 9: I gotta rewind thatceieved a lot of disturbance and assault calls. 546 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 9: We don't have the specific numbers on those quite yet, 547 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 9: but I do want to remind to everyone that there 548 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 9: still are people out and about, so if you can behave, 549 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 9: please do so. 550 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 10: If not just go home, but the focal point. 551 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: Of if you can't behave yourself, just go home and 552 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: trash your own house. 553 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Take it out on your wife, she said, I do. 554 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 9: They should beat community and this unique way that all 555 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 9: of us came together. So Kviva Mexico and Viva Korea 556 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 9: as well for now, reporting live in downtown Los Angeles. 557 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 9: Abigilvenz ABC seven eyewitness snooze. 558 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 7: Indeed, Abigail, thank you. 559 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: So there you go, complete mayhem. After Mexico beat South 560 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: Korea one nothing in a World Cup match. 561 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if that Korean that got shot in the 562 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: leg is going to be running in the five k 563 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: over at the Union Rescue mission next weekend. 564 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: Probably not. 565 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: You think I'd be able to beat them? 566 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: It's possible. 567 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: All right, Let's reopen the California crime blodder used to 568 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: catch its dummy. 569 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 8: We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried. 570 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: The hell no, boy, let me get up on out 571 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: of here. 572 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 8: It's the California crime bloater. 573 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: As it turns out, bipping isn't just an Oakland thing. 574 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: It's going on right in your neck of the woods. Randy, 575 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley too. 576 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 10: I've been bipped several times. 577 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: A whole string of BIPs happened in North Hollywood. For 578 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: more on this, we go to a report from NBC 579 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. 580 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 11: All Right, breaking us a shocking discovery in North Hollywood. 581 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 11: More than a dozen cars or vandalized, neighbors having to 582 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 11: wake up to see their windows smashed. NBC force, come 583 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 11: a little baldi joined. 584 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Can you imagine starting out your day that way? Let's 585 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: say you stayed up a little bit too late the 586 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: night before, you had one too many drinks. You're moving 587 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: a little sliwoh, you hit that snooze button, you choked 588 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: down some coffee, you choked down some oatmeal. You're going 589 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: to fight your way through traffic to get to the office. 590 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: And you walk out and you look at a crime 591 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: scene where your car is. 592 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: You ever been bipped before me? No, I've been bipped, 593 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: not several times, but just once. It was when I 594 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: was living very close to North Hollywood in Valley Village, 595 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: and I was hanging out with some friends who lived 596 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: a couple of blocks away. I decided, after drinking way 597 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: too many Miller High Lifes, that I probably shouldn't drive home, 598 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: so I left my car in front of their house 599 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: and stumbled back to my disgusting studio apartment in Valley Village. 600 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: Woke up the next morning, couldn't figure out where my 601 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: car was because I had forgot that I left it somewhere. 602 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: Once I finally realized that, I walk over and I 603 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: see my car, and when I open up my door, 604 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: I feel a little bit of a draft because there's 605 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: no window on the passenger side door. The glass was 606 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: smashed because drunk, dumbass me left his iPod sitting in 607 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: the cup holder. 608 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Now just imagine how pissed you'd be if you were 609 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: bipped several times. 610 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 10: I've been bipped several times. From the scene. Come up, 611 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 10: Where were these cars parked? Yeah, hi, Annabel. 612 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 12: We're here off of Kwanga by between a Victory and 613 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 12: Oxnard Rather and you can see right on the street 614 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 12: the aftermath. You can see the number of windows of 615 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 12: glass here shattered on the ground. As we continue to 616 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 12: walk down this sidewalk, you. 617 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Can Okay, there are realtors, I'm sure who are working 618 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood on that day who have been playing 619 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: up that particular neighborhood to their clients. Imagine them walking 620 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: down the street taking them to a new condo that 621 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: they are going to look at where you're trying to 622 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: convince them that they can make a life there and 623 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: make that their home. And that's what you see on 624 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: the way there. 625 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: All the things that they do to try to class 626 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: up this area, calling parts of it the NoHo Arts 627 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: District is just not working. North Hollywood will always be 628 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: at North Hollywood. 629 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 12: More cars here that were vandalize. There's a man here 630 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 12: that is now replacing this passenger window here that wood. 631 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: You know, I had a friend who lived in North 632 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: Hollywood and she was quitting her job in radio to 633 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: leave the country to go move in with her boyfriend 634 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: in Europe, in Great Britain. And the day that she 635 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: was supposed to leave everything behind and get on her plane, 636 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: her house got broken into when she was out walking 637 00:34:51,840 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: her dog, and her passport got stolen. True story, vandalized. 638 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 12: One neighbor told our photographer or or Ideas this morning, 639 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 12: they didn't hear anything, and that this happened overnight. And 640 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 12: we have counted at least eight cars that have been 641 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 12: vandalized just off of this street. 642 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: Right. 643 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 2: You didn't hear eight windows getting smashed? How did everyone 644 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 2: sleep through that? They must have got the super white 645 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: noise machine on. 646 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 12: By Irwin Street and another four on the other side 647 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 12: of the street. So from our counting, nearly twenty cars 648 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 12: have been vandalized. Again, you can see just the glass 649 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 12: that's on the ground here. The LAPD telling NBC four 650 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 12: Investigates that they received a call this morning at about 651 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 12: four point fifty two for possible burglary for motor vehicles 652 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 12: in the area, and LAPED is encouraging any victims to 653 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 12: come to the station to make a report online and 654 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 12: if they have any video that they're looking for that. 655 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 10: They want to investigate. 656 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 12: We've also learned that there is a unit that is 657 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 12: on its way right now. But again the aftermath here from. 658 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: This wait, Channel four got there before the cops. 659 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Of course, it sounds like someone's vacuuming something behind her too. 660 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got to vacuum out all the little 661 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: glass shards so you don't cut yourself when you're wearing 662 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 2: flip flops in your car. 663 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 12: Morning neighbors telling us that they are understandably very upset. 664 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 12: We have been making calls to the LAPD, so we 665 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 12: are gathering more information at this hour and we will 666 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 12: bring it to you as we get it on NBC LA. Again, 667 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 12: we've counted at least nearly twenty cars here in North 668 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 12: Hollywood that were vandalized. 669 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: This is the kind of story that you would hear 670 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: all the time in San Francisco. Before they got their 671 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: act together. This used to be them of what was 672 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: going on in Union Square where all the rental cars 673 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: were getting bipped left and right. But they cracked down 674 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: on that LA so much. 675 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is that when people on the East 676 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: Coast think about California excess, they still think about San Francisco. 677 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: And yes, San Francisco certainly has its problems, but they 678 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: seem to be on the upswing. If you want to 679 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: talk about cities that just don't function on any level 680 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: right now, that's Los Angeles and Oakland. 681 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: Well, and to that point, twenty cars getting vandalized on 682 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: Kouwanga Boulevard in North Hollywood. One street over is Hollywood Way, 683 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: which divides North Hollywood to Burbank. You think this kind 684 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: of crap is going on in Burbank. 685 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: Nope, because they won't put up with it. But in 686 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles they're willing to put up with it. And 687 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: what you're willing to tolerate. 688 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: You get more of good morning at of all, go 689 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: ahead and. 690 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 10: Sit it back to you. 691 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 11: You know, it's just unfortunate to think about now this 692 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 11: expense that so many people have to pay for. Camella, 693 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 11: thank you for that update. 694 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're in a situation. I remember this. 695 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: You know, your glass gets shattered. That means that you 696 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: either have to pay for it out of pocket or 697 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: you have to call your insurance company and file a claim. 698 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: And if you call your insurance company and file a claim, 699 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: it's very likely that they will either raise your rates 700 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 2: or drop you entirely.