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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bob Dannam in the garden.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. All right. So last week we

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Speaker 2: had on our guests. We had Addison who was the

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Speaker 2: auctioneer at the Mammoth Auction Bonzai show over at Lake

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Speaker 2: Merritt and at the Lakeside Garden Center there and today

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Speaker 2: which I went to yesterday was the auction. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know if I missed waving to you if you were there.

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Speaker 2: It was a very well crowded room and there were

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Speaker 2: some very good prices that some of those really older

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Speaker 2: BONDSI went for a lot of older junipers, California junipers,

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Speaker 2: and then there was some really unique things. There was

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Speaker 2: actually a citrus tree. Kind of it bugs me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the Bonzi world versus the plant world. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So this beautiful city, I think it was a mandarin.

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Speaker 2: This beautiful citrus had fruit on it, right, and one

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Speaker 2: person piped up when the bidding began to make sure

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Speaker 2: particular insecticide that was a systemic insecticide that was used

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Speaker 2: you know, and that type of thing for the show.

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Speaker 2: But it was gorgeous. It was really really full. It

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Speaker 2: was like maybe about I don't know, two and a

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Speaker 2: pot was a Bonzei pot and probably you know, from

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Speaker 2: some great source in Japan. And I was amazed and

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Speaker 2: how beautiful it was. But I was a little just like,

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Speaker 2: and make it so gorgeous. But you know, like the

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Speaker 2: poison fruit it was. What was the the insecticide was anyway,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember it off the top of my head,

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Speaker 2: sort of Midas or Merlin or it wasn't Merlin, it

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Speaker 2: was Midas or something like that. It was, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: that's the name that camp came to my mind anyway,

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was kind of like that's the

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Speaker 2: frustrating part of Bonzai to me is the inability or

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Speaker 2: the frustration that people use a lot of insecticides and sometimes,

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Speaker 2: you know, they preemptively may treat a juniper to make

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Speaker 2: especially junipers that are of a dwarf you know, Japanese

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Speaker 2: orige origin anyway. So this is stuff that's behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes in bonesy that you don't think about until you're

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Speaker 2: in the world. And I'm glad I am in the

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Speaker 2: world because I still absolutely adore the you know, the

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Speaker 2: shaping and the styling, and the care that bond size

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Speaker 2: orientation of it, which I think is kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I min, It's enough. My dad's cough. I'm

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Speaker 2: just getting over that cold, and you know it has

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Speaker 2: been going around. So I hope everybody else is healthy.

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone woke up on time. I know. Well, okay,

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Speaker 2: if you don't work and you know, and you go

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Speaker 2: through this time change, you may be able to take

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Speaker 2: a little bit more time to adjust and may take

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Speaker 2: you a couple of weeks to adjust to the time

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Speaker 2: time change. I don't know if that's true for you.

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Speaker 2: I know, normally, people who you know I deal with

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Speaker 2: have the option to wake up earlier later rather earlier.

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Speaker 2: I guess they could wake up earlier. Anyway, the time

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Speaker 2: that takes to adjust to your daytime job with the

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Speaker 2: time change is always something that you know, many people

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Speaker 2: gripe about for weeks, you know, after the time change.

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Speaker 2: So it's one of those things. So what do you

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Speaker 2: think of the time change? This is a call in show.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any guests this morning, just to let

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Speaker 2: you know, so you can call eight hundred, No you can't.

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Speaker 2: You have to call eight oh eight, sorry, eight oh

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Speaker 2: eight five six zero zero. That was four one five

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Speaker 2: area code eight oh eight five six zero zero, and

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Speaker 2: to talk to me anything you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: gardening wise, that's what we're here for. It looks like

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Speaker 2: the Tulip Show is going on. I don't remember the

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Speaker 2: dates that they've got. I've got to grab some of

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Speaker 2: so you can type that in online and see when

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Speaker 2: the dates are for that and then today. Of course,

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Speaker 2: there's no auction at the Mammoth Show, but there are vendors.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to get yourself a little starter

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Speaker 2: think it opens at nine am this morning until three

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Speaker 2: not to fly because I'm three thirty. So there'll be

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Speaker 2: all of that is today, and that's at the Lake

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Speaker 2: Merit or Lakeside Garden Center at Lake Merrit in Oakland.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's six six. What is the address there?

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Speaker 2: I didn't write that down anyway, I look it up, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So that's what's going on in my mind. So that's

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Speaker 2: gonna go on today, so don't miss it. Then there's

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Speaker 2: the Yamagami Citrus Tasting is March fifteenth, So if you

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Speaker 2: don't already have your place lined up for Yamagami's and

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Speaker 2: is you can contact them or text them at four

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Speaker 2: All right, So I hope everybody had a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun that way that time around. And if you yeah,

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Speaker 2: of the little video ettes or video little things of videos.

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Speaker 2: Probably not up on my website, it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: more complicated, but definitely on my Facebook channel. So look

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Speaker 2: up Bob Tannem on Facebook and then you'll find the

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Speaker 2: Facebook page that I have that you can just get

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Speaker 2: little snippets of stuff. I share a lot more than

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Speaker 2: you know, creating content. But this time I want to

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Speaker 2: put Addison up and so you can get a taste

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Speaker 2: of his live auction. It was really fun. It was great.

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Speaker 2: What else is going on? Are you thinking about putting

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Speaker 2: those tomatoes? And I've seen them all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Give a you know, nice clear weather weak then people

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Speaker 2: just start thinking of summer fruit. Summer fruit. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: guess it's bad as a fruit. So you you could,

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Speaker 2: it does get cold again. It could get cold through April,

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Speaker 2: the that bucktoy is very specific or particular where I

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Speaker 2: grew them in my strawberries that one year, and with

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Speaker 2: So the whole idea of the strawbail garden is that

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Speaker 2: That it continues to heat up as it decomposes the straw.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole process. That's why the straw bales are

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Speaker 2: I know that that was also an issue when David

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Speaker 2: to cover them. I'm what he goes, yeah, you have

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Speaker 2: directly to seed. Lettuce doesn't do that as much, but

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Speaker 2: Booktoy was very particular about it. And I had grown

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Speaker 2: things to really understand about your microclimates. You know, maybe

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Speaker 2: better off planting lettuces and winter vegetables, especially if we

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Speaker 2: interesting to see how this continues. Anyway, we have been

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Speaker 1: Bob Tannum in the Garden on Talk Radio five sixty

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: To Bob Tannam in the Garden with Eedy Tanham. That's

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Speaker 2: my silly name, Yes, I was given that almost at birth. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So we are having one of those call in shows

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Speaker 2: so feel free to call in with any gardening questions.

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Speaker 2: Four one five eighth eight five six zero zero. And

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Speaker 2: I was just kind of looking some stuff up because

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Speaker 2: I can do that, and I was wondering or no,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't wondering anything. Actually, But at Alden Lane today

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Speaker 2: is the last day to see the daffodil show that

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Speaker 2: they put on every year. So if you are over

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Speaker 2: in Livermore and you know all about Alden Lane, you

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Speaker 2: can go on over there and see what they have

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Speaker 2: for their final bit before they clean it all up.

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Speaker 2: Actually is what goes on on Sunday. So that's been

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Speaker 2: that's in Livermore. They're at nine eighty one Alden Lane,

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Speaker 2: Alden Lane Nursery in Livermore. So nine two five four

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Speaker 2: master gardeners, you know we've got something coming up and

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Speaker 2: you want to tell other people about it. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: hurt to call in eight oh eight five six zero

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Speaker 2: about it. Yep, yep, yep, yep. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to look up the peer thirty nine tulip mania

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Speaker 2: of theories, but you know, it's kind of like when

431
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: you're talking about a really really old rose, for instance,

432
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: a totally different animal what I'm talking about here, just

433
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: talking about garden roses. And you see that as the

434
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: tree is matured, you get less and less canes from

435
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: the base sometimes and sometimes you don't even get the

436
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: rose except for this one surviving, very old cane, and

437
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: it is difficult to try to get more canes from

438
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: the base that are not going to be sucker. And

439
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: you have to take a really really close look at

440
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: that and see what you're doing, what you what you've

441
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: got to work with. And so my my dad said

442
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: once that you can score the graft a bit, rough

443
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: it up a little bit, take up, take your pruning

444
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: prune shares or a pruning of u saw, and you

445
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: just kind of score a few areas around the actual

446
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: graft to try to expose it a little bit more

447
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: of the cambium layer of that particular rose, to score

448
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: it a little bit so that that you know there's

449
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: a possibility that there you might end up getting more

450
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: growth from it. So I haven't really had success doing

451
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: that directly, but I've done it. I've scored scored my

452
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: little uh little you know, marks on it and sometimes

453
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: you do see something coming up but the next year.

454
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: So I'm encouraged by that, and so just putting that

455
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: out there. Uh, but being that these wired pieces are

456
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: more permanently structured, I wondered if you ended up scoring

457
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: through some of those wire ties a little bit here

458
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: and there to see if the plant will re will

459
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: grow over that wire mark so that it won't be

460
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: as prominent, or might create older wood as the plant

461
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: tries to heal from the scoring that you've done. Okay,

462
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: any make Does that make any sense to anybody else?

463
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Or am I just chatting away? That's okay? Yeah, So

464
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: if you want to call about your gardening club, if

465
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: you've got a master Gardeners group that's meeting, I don't

466
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: care how far away you are, you know, So if

467
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: you're in Sacramento, you can call. Uh that's four one

468
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: five eight oh eight five six zero zero. And if

469
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: you you know, wanted to come, come on the show

470
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: and just share what's going on. So those are you know,

471
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: as I say, I did mention earlier and I can

472
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: mention it again that the daffodils are being cleaned up

473
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: after four o'clock today over at Alden Lane they did

474
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: a big daffodil event. I can't remember what it was called, anyways,

475
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: big daffodil event. And they're over in Livermore So if

476
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: you're down that direction ninet eighty one, Alden Lane is

477
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: where that beautiful nursery is, and you can go there

478
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: and go ahead and see what the daffodils were. I mean,

479
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, as daffodil flowers are, they don't last forever,

480
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: but boy, when they come up, you just kind of

481
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: go spring. It's spring, Spring's coming and then short lived

482
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: and we're in de summer and there you are. So

483
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: as I was talking, I also at tomatoes. Yes you

484
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: can put them in the ground, but please protect them

485
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: from any temperatures that may go below fifty if that

486
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: means putting a grow cover over them with tenting that

487
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: can keep some of that heat from the day in.

488
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: You put that on, you know, maybe about three o'clock

489
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: or something like that, to try to trap some of

490
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: that heat so that they don't get so cold at night.

491
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: There were oh my gosh, there was way back when

492
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: there were these. This person had come in and sold

493
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: to my That was so cool because there was always

494
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: an inventor around the corner, right, you know, like the

495
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: earth boxes. Remember those. I'm sure some people still have them,

496
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: and those were great. I mean, you get this little

497
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: tray in the in the bottom level where the reservoir

498
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: water could be put in. You put the water from

499
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: the from a tube at the top of the planter,

500
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: and then by capillary reaction, the soil would get moist

501
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: from that little reservoir of water at the bottom underneath

502
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: this little grate, and then the soil would sit on

503
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: top of that. You have your plant in there, covered

504
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: in black plastic I think there was other colors anyway,

505
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: and then the soil would be kept warm, right, So

506
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: that was wonderful. So that was the earth box thing,

507
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: and that was really kind of a cool planter that

508
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: anybody could put anywhere around their house. But this other

509
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: thing was called a well of water. Yeah, that was it.

510
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 2: It was called the well of water. So it was plastic. Yeah,

511
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother ball came about nursery and over

512
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: the years and stuff like that. Anyway, this was called

513
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: the well of water, and what it was was a

514
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: plastic in a circle that had sections of it that

515
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: were separated. Gosh, how do you describe this thing, so

516
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: you'd put it around your tomato plant. It would hold

517
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: water in it and under plastic inside this little thing

518
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: that you filled up with water put around your tomato

519
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: plant so that the daytime temperature warmth would heat up

520
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: the water around the tomato plant and keep the entire

521
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: thing warm overnight. Interesting, So that was what it was

522
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: called as well water. I have no idea if there's

523
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: still sold, kind of almost hope they aren't. But the

524
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: whole idea was that, what an interesting way of keeping

525
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: your soil and warm, so you can plant your tomatoes earlier.

526
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: See where I'm getting at, This is still early to

527
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: plant your tomatoes. Yes, I know you did yesterday. I

528
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: know you planted them yesterday. I know you did. Or

529
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: you started seeds, which you know was a smarter idea

530
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: in the greenhouse, right, did you do that?

531
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

532
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Did you put them in a greenhouse? Did you? I

533
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: hope you did. Because it's going to get cold again.

534
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: It's going to take a while, but it will get

535
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: cold again. In fact that there's going to be some

536
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: colder weather and then some warmer weather, summer weather again

537
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: by the end of the week. So another thing to

538
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: keep in mind, or another thing to definitely watch for

539
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: in the next couple of days is make sure that

540
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: you have watered your pot plants or check them to

541
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: see if they're soggy still from the last rain. Don't

542
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: water them if they are, because they do need to

543
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: dry out between waterings, you know, at least down to

544
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: maybe about an inch and a half of the soil level.

545
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: I've got a camellia that I'm watching out front that

546
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: I have in a five gallon can that I got

547
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: from the nursery last fall, and I want to make

548
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: sure that it doesn't dry out because I want a

549
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: bonzye it and I do. I do want to make

550
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: sure then that one has that lighter nursery soil still

551
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: in it. It was not a condensed kind of clay

552
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: type of soil has not broken down yet, so I

553
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: have to be very cautious to make sure it doesn't

554
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: try out. So and of course my bond size neat

555
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: water every day, and yes they can also get too

556
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: much water, so be cautious. And right now we're trying

557
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 2: to change our water system. So that's what's going on

558
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: in my world. I wondered what was going on in

559
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: So if you feel like sharing, go ahead and call

560
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: four one five eight eight five six zero zero. That's

561
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: four one five eight eight five six zero zero. I

562
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: think this is pretty much the notorious day oh ooh

563
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: ooh oo. Shy collar called Okay, thank you for calling,

564
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: She says, they are tying. Okay. This is between the

565
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: bricks at the previous call of the one collar I've

566
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: had so far this morning, and they are tiny fire

567
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: ants and carbonated water is a good cure. So if

568
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: anybody else has tried that, that would be interesting to

569
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: talk about. I had not ever heard of carbonated water.

570
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: There's nothing to say that it wouldn't work at all,

571
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: because I'm sure somebody's tried it at some point. It

572
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: had some good luck with it. Carbonated water, so pure water,

573
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: no sugars in it, nothing like that, but carbonated water,

574
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: that would be interesting. If anyone has tried any remedies

575
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: like that, please let us know. That's great, And thank

576
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: you for the caller that gave David that message, so

577
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: I could let you all know on the air. All right,

578
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: that sounds cool, interesting carbonated water. All right, So we're

579
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and take our last break of the morning.

580
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: So if you're you want to say something. Go ahead,

581
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 2: give us a call at four one five eighth eight

582
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: five six zero zero. Gardening wise would be better than

583
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: anything else that you might want to talk about. Let's

584
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: talk about gardening. So that was four one five eight

585
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: eight five six zero zero. We'll be back after these messages.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bob Danam in the Garden on talk

587
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: radio five sixty ksfo.

588
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brain is like thinking about that. I love

589
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: the bumper music. Thank you, David. You're so good at this.

590
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: It's like you're just finding all this music that has

591
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: references to gardening. I wanna eat squash. I'll eat squash,

592
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: but only zucchini. I don't know what it is about

593
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: summer squash. I'm sorry. If you like your summer squash,

594
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: I do not. Never did grew it, always always had

595
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: it in the garden. We always had that big garden

596
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: at the nursery. And was I going to talk about

597
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: something else? Oh? I remember there was something I was

598
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: looking up online and it kind of general consensus of

599
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: AI whatever you might do google searching, is that the

600
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: small amounts of sand that come up between your bricks,

601
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: usually pushed by ants, and yeah, kind of interesting. The

602
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: consensus of the the AI from the general question. Every

603
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: once in a while, I always want to see what

604
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: does it come up with for this? But it's wrong,

605
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: you know, it could be wrong, could be right. But

606
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: you kind of have to word your searches differently five

607
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: or six times to see if that's actually, you know.

608
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: The.

609
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: Same answer. It could be different just because of the

610
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: way you word things. It's interesting. Anyhow, that was not

611
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: what I was going to talk about. Oh, and I

612
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: don't believe in this one. I I boric acid was

613
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: the other suggestion that I ran across, besides the club soda,

614
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: which I thought was you know that did reiterate the uh,

615
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: somebody said it once. Somebody has done it once, somebody

616
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: whatever did it a few times, and so club soda

617
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: just obviously water that's carbonated put over an area of

618
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: something like sand or in the garden suffocates them by

619
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: forcing out the oxygen. Interesting, that could be something that

620
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: you could try. Uh. And the other was somebody had

621
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: mentioned boric acid. Of course, boric acid and once you

622
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: boil it and you put it with sugar and you

623
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: put it in little traps can also lessen the amount.

624
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: But I really don't recommend this normally for outdoor gardening.

625
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: I just for inside. I would use it only for inside,

626
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: so that, you know, and away from your animal of course, uh,

627
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: where you are really bothered by them. Outside ants are

628
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: not necessarily the bad guy, Okay, Uh, yeah, I know.

629
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: They do carry scale up into your your cherry tree,

630
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: you know, or what have you, and they do scare.

631
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: They do carry aphids up into uh your or scale

632
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: even aphan and scale up into your roses or something

633
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: like that, other ornamentals when the plant is not healthy. Right,

634
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can understand that, but combat that first

635
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: by making your plant healthy and then seeing what's going

636
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: on and seeing why there's so many ants there. You know,

637
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: you may find that once you get rid of the

638
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: uh you know, the the gooey stuff that's left over

639
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: by their first batch of aphins they brought up, uh

640
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, that sweet gummy stuff and the scale leaf

641
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: something like that behind too. Once you get rid of

642
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: them by suffocating those with maybe some insecticidal soap or

643
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: some horticultural oil one way or the other, you can

644
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Speaker 2: take a look at that cherry trees and pictures. Well, anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's welcome John from San Jose. Good morning, John, how

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Speaker 2: are you this morning?

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Speaker 5: That's fine, thank you. I sent you pictures, but I

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Speaker 5: sent it to your gmail. I guess that was the

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Speaker 5: wrong one of my cherry tree. The sap is coming

650
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Speaker 5: out in a big spot, and I don't know, it

651
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Speaker 5: looks pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're looking at like gum gum coming out.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, gum coming out of the the cherry in

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Speaker 2: certain branches.

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Speaker 5: I missed the well just in one spot, a huge

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Speaker 5: spot about eight inches.

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Speaker 2: Around and oh oh oh, I remember this. I didn't

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Speaker 2: have time to respond because I wanted to do some

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Speaker 2: research on it. It looks to me like it's a largely,

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Speaker 2: very badly damaged area. Do you know what caused it?

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Speaker 2: Was there anything that bumped into the tree that level? Wow?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did it. I can't figure it out. Is

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Speaker 5: there anything I should do to it?

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, but I'm not sure how much you can

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Speaker 2: do to it. It's kind of like if you take

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Speaker 2: too much of the black area out, you'll be losing

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Speaker 2: whatever cambium layer might be under there. So it's something

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Speaker 2: that you'd have to do very gingerly. I you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a large tree. I mean this this damaged area.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the picture, now is above the fence line,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it's about five or six feet up

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Speaker 2: YEA and so, and its right at the crotch of

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Speaker 2: a you know, two or three branch set actually coming

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Speaker 2: out of that same damaged area. If you don't want

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Speaker 2: to bring an arborist out, I know, if you just don't,

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Speaker 2: if you want to tried to try to save it yourself,

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Speaker 2: I think the cure is going to be taking a

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Speaker 2: pocket knife or something like that, or even maybe a

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Speaker 2: small saw pruning saw, and start to shave away some

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Speaker 2: of that black to try to get down to, as

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Speaker 2: I say, if you can try to find the cambium

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Speaker 2: layer underneath there. I think the cambium layer is the

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Speaker 2: part that's damaged, though you may not have anything left

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Speaker 2: when you start to do that. It may not be

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Speaker 2: any live part of the tree in that area. If

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Speaker 2: there were, then I'd get just to a point where

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Speaker 2: you can make it fairly smooth and then cover that

688
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Speaker 2: entire thing with white latex paint interior white latex paint

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Speaker 2: to try to protect it or become the cambium layer

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Speaker 2: to protect the rest of the tree. As it is now,

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Speaker 2: it's too choky.

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Speaker 5: If you say it's smooth, it may send it down maybe.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't use a machine to sand it down.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably do that by hand. But in the meantime

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Speaker 2: I would try to shave it with something like a

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Speaker 2: pruning saw or a pocket knife something like that, or

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Speaker 2: a knife knife, and then try to get rid of

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Speaker 2: all of the dead wood or the dead bits that

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Speaker 2: are there the black, as much of the black to

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Speaker 2: make it as smooth as possible, so that when you

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Speaker 2: put that paint on, it will go. It will stick

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Speaker 2: instead of instead of flake off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right, unrelated question, did you say at

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Speaker 5: one time to cut off. I have a rose tree

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Speaker 5: and it's it's got a branch coming out right at

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Speaker 5: the base of it supposed to be cut off, like

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Speaker 5: if it's a standard I forget what they call them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a standard rose? So it's it's basically

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Speaker 2: one one straight thing with the rose five feet up

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Is that what you're talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, The graft is supposed to yes, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It is a sucker. It will draw strength away from

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Speaker 2: the main rows. So if the main rows is happy,

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Speaker 2: then you should take that off all the way to

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Speaker 2: the base. Okay, if the main rows was not happy,

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Speaker 2: then then you might consider, you know, just letting it grow.

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I wouldn't advise that if the main

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Speaker 2: standard part of the rose is looking just fine.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well it's it's hard. It's between all say. As

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Speaker 5: far as happiness, yeah, I think I get it. Okay,

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Speaker 5: all right, thank you very much, you too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for calling and reminding me of the picture too,

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Speaker 2: because I think I had lost it in my emails,

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Speaker 2: but I did see it. Now we're all good, all right, John,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. And I have a great day too.

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone does have some really good plans today

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Speaker 2: cleaning up the yard since that rainstorm. I think we've

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Speaker 2: got the you know, before the soil really turns hard,

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Speaker 2: now's the time to rip out that oxalis the best

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Speaker 2: you can get a pitchfork, pop that stuff up. You know,

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Speaker 2: hopefully you've got nice soft soil where that where those

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Speaker 2: oxalas are pop pop them up with a pitchfork and

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Speaker 2: take as much of the corms away as possible. Fill

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Speaker 2: that green can up and let the city jump. Try

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Speaker 2: to figure that one out. But yeah, so that would

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Speaker 2: be one. Number two would be start the seeds for

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Speaker 2: the tomatoes. Make sure you've got AMNUM protected area, or

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Speaker 2: you're starting them indoors where it's going to be consistently warm.

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Speaker 2: Even if you've got tomato plants and they're still in

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Speaker 2: four inch pots and you got them yesterday, you might

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Speaker 2: want to put them inside in a sunny window for

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Speaker 2: a week or so before we can figure out whether

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Speaker 2: or not we're going to be consistently at the seventy

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Speaker 2: degree daytime temperatures or not, or if you do plant

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Speaker 2: them in the ground, try to find some way to

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Speaker 2: keep them warm. Oh, you know what, it would be

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Speaker 2: interesting that guy called Neil, I think it was Neil.

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Speaker 2: He called about this tape that that, you know, you

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Speaker 2: can wrap around your pipes to make sure they don't freeze.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that's something that you could hook up

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Speaker 2: for the garden. It may not be warm enough, though,

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Speaker 2: because I think it does have to be freezing temperatures

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Speaker 2: to set off that warm light system. My brain's cooking

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Speaker 2: you guys, cooking your brains me. Well, if you have

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Speaker 2: anything else that's I think we're going to be a

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Speaker 2: finishing episode