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Speaker 2: Sam, what's going on, Bred? How are you for you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, great, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the game last night.

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Speaker 2: What a game it was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I just turn around in the history of college football

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Speaker 3: with Tigers comeback in golf after the surgery and all

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Speaker 3: It's not really a comeback though, it's a turnaround, right.

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Speaker 3: this year, Indiana five and zero against top ten teams.

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Speaker 3: the zero turnovers thing is crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Like if you played if you played a scrub schedule,

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Speaker 2: It to play out.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about Kurt Signetti going forward on the fourth down, which, yes,

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Speaker 3: after halftime. They dominated the third quarter. We're dominating the

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Speaker 3: third quarter. It's a three point game. Miami's punting it away,

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Speaker 3: the fourth down Mendoza rum was the play that we'll

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Speaker 1: Since I said last hour that to me, coming down

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Speaker 2: Almost that that would have cost them the game.

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Speaker 1: If they lost the game, that would have been the

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Speaker 1: And Miami has always had that reputation as being a

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Speaker 3: MVP for them. Those two catches that he had in

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Speaker 3: Beck under threw that pass he was he actually had him.

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Speaker 1: Listen, he there was an opportunity for him to make it,

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Speaker 3: The shame of it after they didn't really have to

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Speaker 2: Missing the field goal was a big deal for them.

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Speaker 1: Really put them in a bad mental spot that I

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Speaker 3: It would have been a one possession game instead of

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Speaker 1: That catch that he made on the sideline was a

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Speaker 3: I mean that was a masterclass in what you need

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Speaker 1: And Miami had a good defense. I mean, there's they

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Speaker 1: He has he still has two years of college football

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Speaker 3: I mean, this guy reminds me so much of Tyreek

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Speaker 2: Throughout the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He was a beast last night he had he had

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Speaker 1: Miami's got to do now is who theyre going to

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Speaker 2: It might be. Darien Mensa? Has he said where he's going? Answer?

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Speaker 3: you don't know who I'm talking about, who transferred to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is always devastating to do the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they It wasn't like Oregon where they

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the championship game that you want it,

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Speaker 3: I love the idea that you could be Miami and

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Speaker 1: and says, here are guys that nobody wanted that I

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Speaker 1: can do things with that I can maximize their potential.

442
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Speaker 1: And that is I mean, that is finding a unicorn.

443
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Speaker 1: I think Kurt Signetti is a unicorn. Now the irony

444
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Speaker 1: is that he found another unicorn in Mendoza and wound

445
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Speaker 1: up winning a national championship with him. But give me

446
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on what the expectation was of Dion going

447
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Speaker 1: into Colorado and what Indiana actually found in Kurt Signetti

448
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Speaker 1: bringing him in.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting discussion because there are a lot of

450
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Speaker 3: similar I mean, number one, the obvious one is the

451
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Speaker 3: brash confidence of both of those guys, not afraid to

452
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Speaker 3: say what they think. Another similarity would be the fact

453
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Speaker 3: that they brought in Heisman Trophy winners to their next school,

454
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Speaker 3: right right, And then I would say that they both

455
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Speaker 3: did a solid job in the portal. Now the difference

456
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Speaker 3: is and by the way, let's not sleep on what

457
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Speaker 3: Dion did. I mean, he took a one win team

458
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Speaker 3: to four wins to nine wins and then lost well

459
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Speaker 3: a starting quarterback in the NFL and a Heisman Trophy

460
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Speaker 3: winner and then got cancer over the offseason. So I

461
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Speaker 3: kind of give him a pass on this past year

462
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Speaker 3: just because he wasn't able to be with the team

463
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Speaker 3: all offseason because he was battling cancer. But we'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens going forward. But as far as the differences

465
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Speaker 3: between the two, I think you touched on it right there.

466
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Speaker 3: It's Kurt Signetti. Forget about Dion. He's better than everybody

467
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Speaker 3: right now at talent evaluation and finding diamonds in the rough.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, they had eight four stars, zero five stars.

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Speaker 3: To put that in perspective, Oregon had over fifty. They

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Speaker 3: have fifty two. I mean Miami last night had forty five.

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Speaker 3: Alabama had over fifty. Even Old Miss had thirty three, right,

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Speaker 3: and Miami, you know they have forty four stars and

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Speaker 3: five five stars.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: And so my point is Signetti, his discipline, his culture,

476
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Speaker 3: the heart that they play with. I don't know if

477
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Speaker 3: you can just teach that. I think that that is

478
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Speaker 3: something that Signetti has ingrained in those guys. And the

479
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Speaker 3: discipline of that football team was maybe the best that

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen. I'm not saying that Indiana is the

481
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Speaker 3: best football team I've ever seen, because I think they

482
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Speaker 3: would get blown out by two touchdowns three touchdowns to

483
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Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen LSU team. But this is the most

484
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Speaker 3: disciplined college football team that I've seen, just because they

485
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Speaker 3: get it done in the margins without the talent. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: then that to me is why I think that that higher.

487
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Speaker 3: That's why I like the OSU higher is you're not

488
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Speaker 3: just going out and throwing a dart and saying I

489
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Speaker 3: want this guy because I think this guy can be

490
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Speaker 3: the guy. And that's not to say that that doesn't

491
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Speaker 3: work sometimes. But what I'm saying is is to be

492
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Speaker 3: successful at a lower level, and Dion did this too,

493
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Speaker 3: To be successful at a lower level, be able to

494
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Speaker 3: find that talent, especially at a school like James Madison, Like,

495
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Speaker 3: who's going to James Madison, Who's looking to go to

496
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Speaker 3: James Madison? But there are guys out there that's their

497
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Speaker 3: best alternative, And so for him to be able to

498
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Speaker 3: maximize the potential of those kinds of players proved that

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Speaker 3: he has the ability to do it at the next level.

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Speaker 2: If you can do it when it's.

501
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Speaker 1: Harder, then it's like the old thing about practice hard,

502
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Speaker 1: and then when it gets to game time, it's going

503
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Speaker 1: to be easy because it's less work than when you're practicing.

504
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Speaker 1: So the fact that he could do it under tougher

505
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Speaker 1: circumstances indicates and again, not everybody can do it, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's just that much more impressive what he

507
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Speaker 1: was able to do there. Now we talked about this

508
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Speaker 1: last hour too. Not every school is going to be

509
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Speaker 1: able to do that. Not every school is going to

510
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Speaker 1: have the fan base the alumni base that Indiana does.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody's going to have access to a Mark Cuban,

512
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Speaker 1: Not everybody is going to have the ability. But it

513
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Speaker 1: made it that much more fun to watch because there

514
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Speaker 1: were so many people that had been so starved for

515
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Speaker 1: any success in football, like their only success was going

516
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Speaker 1: back to the league Corso years and winning a bowl

517
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Speaker 1: game like that, or did they even win the bowl game?

518
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Speaker 3: Just going to a bowl game. Yeah, they had only

519
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Speaker 3: won three bowl games before this just remarkable. They won

520
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Speaker 3: three obviously in the playoffs this season, and.

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Speaker 1: That's why I had an emotional investment in wanting to

522
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Speaker 1: see them win, because it was so nice to see

523
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Speaker 1: a fan base that.

524
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Speaker 2: Had nothing to work off of to.

525
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Speaker 1: Get to go to a national championship game and actually

526
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Speaker 1: come away with the win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just is a great story.

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Speaker 3: What's scary about Indiana is I mentioned how good he's

529
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Speaker 3: been in the portal. He's really hit the portal hard,

530
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Speaker 3: even though he doesn't have the four and five star

531
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Speaker 3: guys out of high school. What's scary about Indiana is

532
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Speaker 3: the fact that, for instance, they're bringing in this wide

533
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Speaker 3: receiver Nick marsh or a big time ed dresser that

534
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Speaker 3: I can't even pronounce his name. I'll just call him Toby,

535
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Speaker 3: or this safety named Preston's Zachman, and these are big

536
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Speaker 3: time guys in the portal. So now he's gonna have

537
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Speaker 3: those four and five star type guys. I mean, you

538
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Speaker 3: could be looking at it not Dynasty, I don't think,

539
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Speaker 3: because I do think that there's more parody than ever

540
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Speaker 3: in today's college football, as you saw with the ten

541
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Speaker 3: seed making the you know, championship game and having a

542
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Speaker 3: legitimate chance to win at the end of it. But

543
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Speaker 3: Indiana is gonna be in the playoffs and in the

544
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Speaker 3: you know contention in the discussion every single year going

545
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Speaker 3: forward because I do think that now he's going to

546
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Speaker 3: match the talent with that culture. Now, sometimes that blows

547
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Speaker 3: up and you can't match that that culture because of

548
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Speaker 3: you know, the mindset of some So the risk some

549
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Speaker 3: of these talents rik exactly what you're just a ceiling

550
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Speaker 3: is through the roof right now. The risk is what

551
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Speaker 3: you're talking about, the ability to go out and get

552
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Speaker 3: those starred recruits. Sometimes you get guys I talked about

553
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Speaker 3: this with with Matt a little bit ago that there

554
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Speaker 3: are guys that you can't convince me otherwise have been

555
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Speaker 3: on the roster at o you that are good football players,

556
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Speaker 3: but they don't love football like they love the fact

557
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Speaker 3: that they've got something that is a future for them.

558
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Speaker 3: But the two are the two don't always go hand

559
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Speaker 3: in hand.

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Speaker 1: And so and I'll I've always asked this question about

561
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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City thunder. Do they bring guys in and

562
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Speaker 1: then implement the culture into them, or do they find

563
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Speaker 1: guys that fit the culture and then bring them in

564
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Speaker 1: and implement them into the culture. And that is going

565
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Speaker 1: to be the tightrope that Kirk Signetti needs to be

566
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Speaker 1: able to walk, is finding guys who have that kind

567
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Speaker 1: of reputation already but are still committed to the game

568
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Speaker 1: and still committed to wanting to get better and.

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Speaker 2: Succeed as a team.

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Speaker 1: And he's done a really good job of that, but

571
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Speaker 1: it's easier to do when you've got guys that have

572
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Speaker 1: fewer options, Like you see these guys that like, well,

573
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Speaker 1: I didn't get as many snaps as it wanted to,

574
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to go into the portal and try

575
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Speaker 1: and go somewhere else where I can get more. Or

576
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Speaker 1: you see the aj Brown attitude at the professional level.

577
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Speaker 1: So that's the risk that you run. But he has

578
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Speaker 1: said before that that the first thing he asked guys

579
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Speaker 1: is do you love football? And if they say no,

580
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Speaker 1: then they're not guys that he's interested in. And I

581
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Speaker 1: think it's going to take that kind of discipline from

582
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Speaker 1: him to maintain this.

583
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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting last night they were talking

584
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Speaker 3: to the offensive line after the game, and you know,

585
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Signetti brought in all those JMU guys you're talking about,

586
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: and he gave credit this offensive lineman gave credit to

587
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Speaker 3: the JMU guys saying that they didn't have clicks when

588
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Speaker 3: they came to Indiana. We were a football team, you know.

589
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Speaker 3: We clicked as a team, you know, pretty much instantaneously.

590
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Speaker 3: And I think that sometimes, especially with portal guys who

591
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Speaker 3: are looking for money, it's that culture or that chemistry

592
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: is not necessarily there, and for some reason it was

593
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Speaker 3: almost destined to be this way. Those JMU guys clicked

594
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Speaker 3: with those Indiana guys and not. I mean, you just

595
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Speaker 3: have to have that when you don't have all the

596
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Speaker 3: talent that some of these other schools have.

597
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Speaker 2: You know. I think part of that is Signetti obviously.

598
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Speaker 1: Why some of that is, in my mind is expectation,

599
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Speaker 1: and I think that he's done a good job of

600
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Speaker 1: finding guys that are committed to the game and committed

601
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Speaker 1: to getting better and committed to being a part of

602
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Speaker 1: something bigger than themselves. I thought that was a great story.

603
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Speaker 1: I think it was Becker that they were talking about.

604
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: Was Becker at Indiana when when Signetty got there. Was

605
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Speaker 1: he the receiver that they were talking about that they

606
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Speaker 1: he told all the receivers go into the portal, and

607
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: then he pulled them aside and said, not you not

608
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Speaker 1: if you want to stay, I want you to stay.

609
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: That's a great story. You know, special teams and all that,

610
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Speaker 1: but that's still that that makes it that much greater

611
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Speaker 1: of a story. When he has a game like he

612
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Speaker 1: had last night with those two specifically two great.

613
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Speaker 2: Catches, it's amazing. It really is.

614
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Speaker 3: Uh. By the way, Fernando Mendoza's little brother has entered

615
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Speaker 3: the transit.

616
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Speaker 2: That's what Matt Raves said. Did you guys talk about

617
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Speaker 2: that already?

618
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Speaker 1: He just said that he had announced that he was

619
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Speaker 1: going into the portal. I was saying last hour. To me,

620
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite things in the game was the

621
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Speaker 1: little brother that was there. Brother, Yeah stands well. After

622
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Speaker 1: he made that touchdown run like doing the play by

623
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Speaker 1: play and re enacting and that that was beautiful. I mean,

624
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: that's every kid ever with football, and the fact that

625
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Speaker 1: it's his big brother.

626
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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Awesome stuff. Awesome stuff.

627
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Speaker 3: No, I mean, like I said, they're going to make

628
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: a movie about this one day and it's not going

629
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Speaker 3: to be believable.

630
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Speaker 2: That's how crazy this was. That's why we watched.

631
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Speaker 1: So it really is so many things, so many storylines

632
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: at play that all really came together, and a lot

633
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: of times you don't get that. I mean, to me,

634
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: that's what I think makes Rocky One such a great

635
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: movie is because he spoiler alert, it's fifty years old.

636
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't win in the end in the first one.

637
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: To me, that's what makes that a great movie is

638
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: the fact that it's realistic enough that he doesn't. But

639
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: this is an instance where it's so magical that it

640
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: does pay off in the end with the win, and

641
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: it almost makes it less believable because of that, Like,

642
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: no way could all of these things. You go down

643
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Speaker 1: to the fact that Miami didn't want Mendoza as a

644
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: walk on, that he was a two star, and they

645
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: wind up playing Miami for the championship, and they're.

646
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: Playing in Miami where he coaching stuff. But still, yeah,

647
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: but here's still the story. The line remains the same.

648
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: It's something that you would look at and no way

649
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: that really happened. That's not our true story, and it

650
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Speaker 3: really was. I mean, that's what made it such an

651
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Speaker 3: interest in.

652
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Speaker 2: These numbers are just insane. And here's the other thing.

653
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: Had that been a blowout, had that been the Indiana

654
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Oregon game, it wouldn't have been as it wouldn't make

655
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: the story as great as it is. The fact that

656
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: that game came down to the wire last night and

657
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: that interception was what iced it is what makes it

658
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Speaker 3: that much better. No, you're right about that. And the

659
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Speaker 3: interesting part of it is we are talking about the

660
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Speaker 3: greatest turnaround in the history of college football and this

661
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: great underdog story that you could write a movie about.

662
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Speaker 3: But Miami was the underdog last night and they almost

663
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Speaker 3: pulled off the miracle to beat the number one seed,

664
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Speaker 3: I mean Signetti. Some of these numbers are just insane.

665
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Speaker 3: Nine thirty one winning percentage of these last two years,

666
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Speaker 3: Indiana's winning percentage before that in the history of Indiana

667
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Speaker 3: from eighteen eighty seven to twenty twenty three before Signetti

668
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Speaker 3: forty percent.

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Speaker 1: Well, that point differential number that they threw out there

670
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: last night was crazy too. Now, some of that got

671
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: boosted by like a blowout like the Oregon game wound

672
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Speaker 1: up being, but still that was a easy number they

673
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: put it out there. The point differential under Kurt Signetti

674
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Speaker 1: with his Indiana team is remarkable to.

675
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Speaker 2: Be especially to be a team. You know.

676
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Speaker 1: This isn't Nick Saban going to Alabama after they've had

677
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: a few down years. This is a guy that built

678
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Speaker 1: something from the ground up. That is that's a crazy story.

679
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Speaker 3: I mean to put it in perspective too, through their

680
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: first two seasons at their current program, like Kurt Signetti

681
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: two losses, Kirby Smart's seven losses in his first two

682
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: seasons at Georgia, Marcus Freeman seven losses, Steve Shakeshan twelve losses,

683
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: you got Elko six losses, you got Dan Lanning five losses,

684
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Speaker 3: Kaylin de Boris six losses. And my point is like,

685
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: this is and he's doing this at Indiana. It's not

686
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: like he went to an Alabama at Georgia. I mean,

687
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: this is just insane.

688
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great story.

689
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Speaker 1: And we got the payoff last night with Indiana winning

690
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Speaker 1: their first national championship in the history of the program.

691
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Speaker 1: And that is in two years of them even being respectable.

692
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: And to me again, just to reset it after they

693
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Speaker 1: did what they did last year and people were like, ah,

694
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: should Indiana really be.

695
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: In the playoff?

696
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: You know, and then they wind up getting bumped out

697
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: of the playoff, and there's no way they're going to

698
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: turn around and do it again. And not only did they,

699
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: they wound up with that just remarkable win of the

700
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Big Ten over Ohio State that everybody said was the

701
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: best team in the country hands down, the line has

702
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: been the best team that money can buy. They beat

703
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Speaker 1: them to win the Big Ten, they get into the playoff, Okay, well,

704
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: can they really do it? And then they played the

705
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Speaker 1: way that they did Oregon. It's so hard to beat

706
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: a team two times, two times in a single season.

707
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: They manhandled Oregon in the playoff after having beaten them

708
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: handily on the road in Oregon. It is just a

709
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: storybook season for Indiana, And like I said earlier, to me,

710
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: it's one of the best college football seasons I can remember.

711
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it has to do

712
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: as much as I dislike about elements of the modern

713
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: era of college football. I love the playoff, I love

714
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: the expanded field. Love there's just so many things that

715
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: make this I love that you can drop a couple

716
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: of games that you shouldn't have, like Miami did. Like

717
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: Miami kind of had to have some help getting in

718
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: because there was nobody else really good in the ACC,

719
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: and so we'll take Miami and at least we'll have

720
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: an ACC representative. And then they wind up going on

721
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: a heater and they're in the championship game last night,

722
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, not only are they on a heater,

723
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: but they got a chance to win it. If the

724
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: couple of breaks had gone their way, we could be

725
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: talking a whole different story today. We could be talking

726
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: about how close but no cigar it was for Indiana

727
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: and Miami gets another one and gets the program back

728
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: on track.

729
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could have been talking about, you know, how

730
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: Carson Beck had delivered in all of these clutch moments

731
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: throughout the playoffs, because that was the craziest part is

732
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: we were all saying before the playoffs, Miami doesn't have

733
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: a chance because their quarterback, at least especially in the

734
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: final four, of the four quarterbacks, he was the one

735
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: you didn't really trust. And he made all of those

736
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: plays against Old Miss and all of the plays against

737
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: Indiana going down the stretch until he did.

738
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. All Right, let's take

739
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: a break, we'll come back. I want to talk about

740
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: why I didn't get to see my Gundy on TV

741
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: last night. I'm not surprised that he was great, and

742
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I take your word for it that he was.

743
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: He's got the personality for it. He's opinionated, he's not

744
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: afraid to share his opinion. He's very gregarious. But him

745
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: it was last night. Yeah, you got the personality. But

746
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: his mind breaking down a football game. He just thinks

747
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: of stuff that the normal human wouldn't think about, and

748
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: it's fascinating to listen to. I mean listen, look at

749
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: his history in college football as a player and then

750
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: as a coach. I fully would expect that. It's one

751
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: of the things I think is so great.

752
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: About Kale is his ability to look at things and

753
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: see things that the rest of us might not even

754
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: be looking for. So I'm not surprised, but there is

755
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: some irony in the fact that I couldn't watch it

756
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: last night. I'll explain what I mean on the other

757
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: side of the break. It's the middle of the day's

758
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: show on a Tuesday ninety eight point one. The Sports

759
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: Animal and online at the Sportsanimal dot com. Reporting indicates

760
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: that Eric Bienemy is going to go back to the

761
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs as offensive coordinator, which I don't think

762
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: is a terrible move.

763
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: But unless he went to Florida.

764
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: And found the fountain of youth, I don't know that

765
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to fix some of the

766
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: problems that Kansas City's offense is up against. But I

767
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: did like him as the offensive coordinator there a lot,

768
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: and frankly, I don't know a whole lot about the guy,

769
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: but I felt like it was he never really got

770
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: a shot at being a head coach anywhere. He left

771
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City to go be a associate head coach a

772
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: couple of different places, and most recently has been with

773
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the Bears as a runnings backs coach. So it looks

774
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: like with Naggy being out there as a name for

775
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: one of these openings, that Eric b Enemy is going

776
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: to wind up being the offensive coordinator again for the

777
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. It is the middle of the day

778
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: show on a Tuesday. It's Brad and Sam today without Mark,

779
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: who is taking a day off.

780
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: He'll be back tomorrow.

781
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: So do you know the presenting sponsor of the National

782
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Championship Game was last night?

783
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: Helped me out. I'm terrible with that type of stuff.

784
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: It was at and t okay, okay. So I had

785
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: plans to go to my in laws. I like watching sports.

786
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: My father in law he has macular degeneration, so it's

787
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: challenging for him. Like when The Thunderer on, he listens

788
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: to Matt Pinto because he has a hard time even

789
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: seeing the television, and Matt does a really good job

790
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: of laying out the game in a way that.

791
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: He can picture it.

792
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: So we were watching the ESPN broadcast with Chris Fower

793
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: and Herb Street last night, because you know he needs

794
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: the explanation. But I thought, okay, well, I'm gonna go

795
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: home for the second half and I'll just watch some

796
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: of the broadcast that Gundhy is a part of.

797
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: In the second half.

798
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Speaker 1: I have AT and T internet, and I have had

799
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: this problem and I have not realized that it was

800
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: fully a problem until last night.

801
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I made my mind up.

802
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: But three of the last four nights, my Internet has

803
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: gone out, and it is I'm convinced that is because

804
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: there's something freezing outside that's causing my fiber optic to

805
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: go bad at night.

806
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: So I got home and I couldn't watch the game.

807
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: That is brutal, but I did.

808
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I had my iPad at home, so I was able

809
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: to I was able to pull it up and watch it.

810
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: But at that point, I was just watching the game,

811
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: and I just pulled up the ESPN broadcast and watch

812
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: the game. But I could not. Oh, I was so

813
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: I was so mad. I was like, I just stayed

814
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and watch the rest of the game.

815
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: There's nothing more frustrating than having your internet go out,

816
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: especially when you want to watch something.

817
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Then I just get irate.

818
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of a similar situation last week.

819
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: I have Verizon, and Verizon had the national outage and

820
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't call anybody. You don't realize how much you

821
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: actually call people on your phone until you can't call anybody.

822
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, what if someone came in and tried to

823
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: murder me, I wouldn't be able to call nine one one.

824
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: Well, I was so angry because I'm streaming this thing

825
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: on my iPad because I can't my internet is not working,

826
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: and so I can't get my streaming service on my television.

827
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: And I'm saying AT and T presents the National Championship game,

828
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, AT and D, how about you present

829
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: fixing whatever's wrong with mine?

830
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: Now?

831
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: I did like I had this problem on Saturday night.

832
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: I have it on Friday night, Saturday's working again. Saturday

833
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: night it goes out again.

834
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: So I set up an appointment on Sunday for a

835
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: technician to come out and look at it, and then

836
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: on Sunday it's working again, and so like, I really

837
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: don't have time to deal with this today, so I'm

838
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: just gonna gamble that whatever it was was a two

839
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: time problem and it's fixed. So then Sunday, Sunday night, Monday,

840
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: everything's working until I come home last night after the

841
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: halftime and it's it's out again. So I do have

842
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: an appointment for today, so hopefully I'm gonna be able

843
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: to get it fixed. But it didn't help me for

844
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: last night's game. Luckily I did. It did dawn on me.

845
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can get my iPad and at

846
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: the very least just use data and watch it through that.

847
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: So I did get to watch.

848
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I missed the punt, I missed the block punt, but

849
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: I saw the replay and I got to watch. You

850
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: if you missed the third quarter, you missed a lot

851
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: of Miami dominating the game and then the block punt

852
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: to flip it back in Indiana's favor.

853
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Happened into the third quarter, was at the end of

854
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I thought it was earlier in the

855
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: third quarter than that ID all of it. I didn't

856
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: feel like I missed all of the third quarter. I

857
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: think I watched about half of the third quarter and

858
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: then all of the fourth quarter. But yeah, it was

859
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I was really fit to be tied last night. So

860
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: hopefully I can get some resolve on that today. And

861
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: it's not a problem beyond this. So I want to

862
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: talk about the coaching carousel in the NFL. I want

863
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: to talk about there's some interesting data that came out

864
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: about this past college football season I think you'd be

865
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: interested to know about.

866
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the thunder. This J doub.

867
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: Injury concerns me, and I'm gonna I'm gonna illustrate a

868
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: couple of different things with that. And by the way,

869
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it concerns me that, oh no, the

870
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: season is over. I just do have some concerns about it,

871
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: although some of that was alleviated yesterday. I know it

872
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: was just against the Cavaliers, who have not been playing

873
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: as well this year as they as they were last year.

874
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: But there's still a good team with good talent, and

875
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with the way that the Thunder

876
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: came out and just took care of business yesterday. So

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that a little bit, and

878
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: then we could talk some more college National Championship game

879
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: as well, because that's obviously the thing that's on everybody's mind.

880
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: But I'd love to hear from you four or five,

881
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: nine hundred wwls.

882
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: You could call us, you could text us.

883
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: The Lucky Star line is where you call the Johnny

884
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: Charco Broiler text nationline is where you text us your thoughts.

885
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: We will continue after this for another hour of the

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Speaker 1: Middle of the Day Show ninety eight point one The

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Speaker 1: Sports Animal. Thouder got a great win yesterday on MLC

888
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Day on national television on the road against Cleveland. That

889
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: road trip continues tomorrow and I that be in Milwaukee

890
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: against the Bucks and you'll be able to hear that

891
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: game here on The Sports Animal. We did get the

892
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: bad news over the weekend that Jay Dubb going to

893
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: miss an extended period of time with a hamstring strain.

894
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: What concerns me about this injury is hamstrings are notorious

895
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Speaker 1: for being injuries that just linger around.

896
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: Now.

897
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: The upside is we know he's been struggling with that

898
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: hand that he had surgery on in the off season,

899
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: and so here's a little bit more time to rest

900
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: at and maybe get some recovery on that.

901
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: But I worry that this injury is something that is that.

902
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm afraid it might be one of those up and

903
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: down injuries where he comes back, he plays a couple

904
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Speaker 1: of games, and then he gets sore on us again.

905
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Speaker 1: I mean, we see that again and again in the NFL,

906
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: and you're using your legs as much as anything in

907
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: the NBA. So I do have concerns about what this

908
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: is going to mean because Jay Dubb is needed for

909
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: this team to push like they did last year. Now,

910
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the good news is this, we got guys on the

911
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: bench that would be starters and a lot of places

912
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: in the league so they can step in and they

913
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: did yesterday. And a big issue still is I look

914
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: at the rebounding numbers every.

915
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 2: Game and we got to get Hartenstein back. Man.

916
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: We are we are dying on the boards without him there.

917
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: But that's my concern with the j Dub injury as

918
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: because of what it is.

919
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a long term problem.

920
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a This is not something that's

921
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: that's going to be, you know, this career issue that

922
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: he's going to have to deal with forever. But it's

923
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: one of those injuries that could easily be a season

924
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Speaker 1: long injury because they just kind of come and go

925
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: like that.

926
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Speaker 3: Before I get to Jay Dubb, let's talk about Chet

927
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: yesterday against Cleveland. I mean, I thought he had his

928
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: best games. Where has that Chet been well, I mean

929
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: he's been He's been there every game except for against

930
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: the Spur.

931
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Speaker 2: He was, I mean beast yesterday.

932
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Speaker 3: He was awesome and against a really tough matchup right

933
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: with Mobley down there and Jared Allen down there, and

934
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Speaker 3: Chet was just I mean, he was not hesitating offensively,

935
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: he was pulling the three ball when he ended up

936
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: shooting from three to four for five from three, eleven

937
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 3: for sixteen from the field plus thirty four in the game,

938
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Speaker 3: did have eight rebounds on top of that. I mean,

939
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: he was the all star Chet holmgrin yesterday. And they

940
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: need him to play like that throughout this stretch without

941
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: Jay Dub in the lineup, because they're gonna need him

942
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: offensively a little bit more than when Jay Dub's not there.

943
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: But I don't really put a whole lot of stock

944
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Speaker 3: into that loss against Miami a couple nights ago. I mean,

945
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: first of all, a lot of teams lose in Miami

946
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: because the players maybe like to have a good time

947
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: in Miami a little bit. You lose JDub in the

948
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: second quarter, and then you get a questionable call at

949
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: the end that I thought was the wrong call. In

950
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 3: the two minute report said it was the wrong call

951
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: when the Thunder was up by three at the end

952
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: of the game, when shay Gil just Alexander forced the

953
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: guy up in the air, he lands on him, and

954
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: they said that he jumped into him.

955
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Speaker 2: If you leave your feet.

956
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: And land on a guy, I mean, it's a it's

957
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: a defensive foul. And so I thought it was crazy

958
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: to call an offensive foul right there. But whatever, they

959
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: lose by two in Miami and blow the Cleveland Calves

960
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: off of the floor one thirty six to one oh four.

961
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: That was one of the more impressive games of the

962
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: season for me.

963
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

964
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Speaker 1: And like I said, I love seeing that chet and

965
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish what he's done. The rest

966
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: of the year. It's just I liked the aggressiveness that

967
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: he was playing with yesterday. That's what I want to

968
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: see from him, and sometimes that's probably gonna blow up

969
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: in his face. But yesterday, I mean, to your point,

970
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: the fact that he was doing it against a team

971
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: that is not a great matchup for him was made

972
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: it that much better.

973
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: But back to the rebounding thing, the thunder Man.

974
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: You look back at the box scores over the last

975
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: several games and they are just getting killed on the

976
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: boards nineteen to six offensive rebounds. Yesterday, Cleveland out rebounded

977
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: them fifty four to thirty eight rebounds. In general, they've

978
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: had games where they've done better than others, but that

979
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: clearly is a place where the thunder is lacking right now.

980
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: And that goes back to what I said last week.

981
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: I think about how this team is reminding me of

982
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: the year before when won the championship, where we were

983
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: still missing that piece, and I'm hoping that.

984
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Speaker 2: He can get through this injury.

985
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: It is, yeah, Hartenstein is missing, but they make up

986
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: for it by turning the other team over. I mean,

987
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Cleveland had twenty one turnovers in that game to the

988
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: thunders only thirteen turnovers. And the thunder is finally making

989
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: some shots. Even against Miami, they shot a good percentage.

990
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: I think they shot forty five percent from three, and

991
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: last night what they ended up going from the three

992
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: point line, they ended up shooting forty nine per yes

993
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: nine from three yesterday to twenty three twenty two point nine. Yeah, Cavin,

994
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: so when you make shots. I mean, we always say this,

995
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: but it's true. It's a make or miss league, and

996
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: when a team shoots fifty percent from three and the

997
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: other one shoots twenty three percent from three, you're probably

998
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: gonna win the game. But it was more impressive than

999
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: just the shooting, I guess is My point is Chet

1000
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: played really well. Their defense is back, and I was

1001
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: super impressed. Like I know who was with them with

1002
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: the uh, with the performance from Chet Holker.

1003
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: You know who else played really well yesterday That kind

1004
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: of got lost in the shadow of how well Check played.

1005
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Was lou Dort.

1006
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, lud Lu did play well. He's finally making some shots.

1007
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: Looks like he's shooting it with a little bit more confidence.

1008
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: And uh, even though Aj Mitchell, I mean, I know

1009
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: he only went two for five and over one from three,

1010
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: but he's plus seventeen in the game because he brings

1011
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: such a spark offensively off the bench. He always you know,

1012
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: he's a walking paint, touch, driving kick, he does so

1013
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: many different things. He had nine assists in that game.

1014
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 3: I thought he played a really good game yesterday as well.

1015
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean, this is not a make or

1016
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: break deal that we're gonna be without Jay Dubb for

1017
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of time. But my big concern with

1018
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: it is is this, this becomes an injury that kind

1019
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: of comes and goes for the rest of the year.

1020
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: Right and discuss Jadab. Listen, I see a lot of

1021
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: this discussion, whether it be in my Thunder group text

1022
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: or on Twitter of Thunder fans saying that the Thunder

1023
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: plays better without Jadab. Let's not forget that Jadab dropped

1024
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: forty points in an NBA Finals We all watch that, correct.

1025
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean, this team is better with a healthy Jaylen Williams.

1026
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Obviously he has not been healthy with the hand first

1027
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 3: of all, and now the hamstring injury.

1028
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: They need to get Jadab healthy.

1029
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna say the Thunder is not gonna

1030
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: win a championship without Jadab, but it would be.

1031
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: The Road is concerned with him.

1032
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: And I'll say this to the people that you're talking

1033
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: about that say that this team plays better without him.

1034
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: You know who I think would disagree with that, the

1035
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: reigning MVP of the league.

1036
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: So I don't don't get.

1037
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: To the numbers this year, but my point is he

1038
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: hasn't been healthy and then obviously they went six and six.

1039
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: It was kind of a tough stretch right there. I

1040
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think that Jada has looked like himself yet,

1041
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: but I'm saying when he's healthy, the Thunder needs him

1042
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: out there.

1043
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: The addition, the growth of aj Mitchell has really helped

1044
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: in regards to why point numbers have looked as good

1045
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: as they have because we're getting so much more from

1046
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: him this year. And again, the depth of the Thunder

1047
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: cannot be underestimated. I mean, I can remember last year

1048
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: was a Draymond. There was somebody last year that.

1049
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Was like, Ah, they got a bunch of guys nobody

1050
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: knows who they are. Well, guess what, nobody knows who

1051
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: they are, but these guys can ball. And so that

1052
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: depth is what's going to give the Thunder the ability

1053
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: to stay competitive this year through injuries. And that was

1054
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: the other point that I wanted to make in this

1055
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: conversation was we don't really realize how blessed we have been.

1056
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys talked yesterday about the momentous occasion

1057
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: that for the first time in twenty two years, Lebron

1058
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: James is not an All Star.

1059
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: Like, think about that All Star starter.

1060
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: Well, right, he could still be an All Star, but

1061
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: think about that twenty two years this guy has been

1062
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 3: an All Star.

1063
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: That's unprecedented.

1064
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: The fact that that he has reached Father Time is undefeated,

1065
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: and he's finally catching up with him. But the dude

1066
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: is still playing at a very high level. That's remarkable

1067
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: that that guy like him or don't like him, don't

1068
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: like his personality, don't like the way he wants to

1069
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: control the team.

1070
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: I can get with you on all of that.

1071
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: But the guy playing at the level that he's played

1072
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: for the period of time that he has is unprecedented.

1073
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: And we saw one more domino fall yesterday in that

1074
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: career in that he's not a starting All Star for.

1075
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: The first time, and he didn't deserve to be.

1076
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: I know, I agree with that, that's agreed by the

1077
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: way with the West starters. I don't think that Steph

1078
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 3: Curry should have been a starter. I think that it

1079
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: should have been Anthony Edwards. But we could talk about that,

1080
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: you know how that is. I mean that is we

1081
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: could debate whether and I don't know that I would

1082
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: agree that there has been a year up until this

1083
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: year that Lebron shouldn't have been a starter. But you

1084
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: know that the reality is is that guys like that,

1085
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: legendary guys, career guys, are going to get the NOD

1086
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: quicker than a guy who's having a year that say,

1087
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Chet Holmgren is having, is going to get the NOD.

1088
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Now. I think Chet's going to be an All Star

1089
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: this year, Yeah, for sure.

1090
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: I mean he's definitely going to be an All Star reserve.

1091
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: And back to Jay Dubb. Also, Jay Will got hurt yesterday,

1092
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: left the game early with the back injury. The two

1093
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: guys that are gonna have to play great basketball during

1094
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: this stretch without Hartenstein, without j Will, and without J

1095
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: Dubb are AJ Mitchell and Chet Holmgren. I mean, Chet, yesterday,

1096
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: like we just talked about, played a great game, and

1097
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: Aj Mitchell is going to have to bring that spark

1098
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: in the non SGA minutes that Jadub normally brings when

1099
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: he's healthy.

1100
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: I think you're fully right about that.

1101
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: The problem is, I think both of those guys playing

1102
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: at their best is still not going to replace what

1103
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: we're missing without Hartenstein and to a lesser.

1104
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: Degree without Jay Will. That's why I'm really hoping. And

1105
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: this Jay Will thing is something that he's been dealing

1106
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: with all year. I think he's been dealing with it

1107
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: probably his entire life, this lower back stuff. You see

1108
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: him on the bench as soon as he comes out there,

1109
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: they're working on his I want to give one more

1110
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: guys shout out for that game yesterday because we've seen

1111
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell have some unbelievable offensive performances. Lou Dort had

1112
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: him in Hell yesterday five for eighteen, one for nine

1113
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: from three, and Kenny Hustles minutes that he had on

1114
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell as well. They both did a phenomenal job.

1115
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about with Lou Russo went down

1116
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: yesterday as well.

1117
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys really stepped up.

1118
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: Lou kind of getting lost in in how flashy that

1119
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: game was for Chet yesterday. They both had plus thirty

1120
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: four in the plus mind. That's right, and a lot

1121
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: of that had to do with the defense that Dort

1122
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: was putting out there, and lou Dort had been struggling

1123
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: some through this last little stretch. So to see him

1124
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: have a couple of games in a row like he's

1125
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: had it has been really refreshing. And the Thunder gonna

1126
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: need that. And like I said, I'm not pushing the

1127
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: panic button. I'm not saying that that the Thunder all

1128
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden not the continder to win in the

1129
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: But it is going to be interesting to see what

1130
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: Denver does coming down to the trade wire. Are they

1131
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: going to go out and find a point guard to

1132
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: pair up with Jamal Murray? It's not going to be something.

1133
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't know who's out there that's really

1134
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna make them next level. But I still think the

1135
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Nuggets are gonna be the team that the Thunder are

1136
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to contend with. I don't think the Spurs

1137
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: are quite there yet.

1138
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: And so talk about a guy that's playing at an

1139
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: all star level right now, is Jamal Murray. I mean,

1140
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: they're still winning games even without the Joker, and they're

1141
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: gonna get the Joker back right around the time that

1142
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: the Thunder plays Denver in February. The Rockets really need

1143
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 3: a point guard. I think the Thunder needs to make

1144
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: a move. Considering the injury issues with Hartenstein and with

1145
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: j Will, I think they need to bring him back

1146
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: up big in just for you know, insurance policy. He

1147
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: may not play at all in the playoffs once those

1148
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 3: guys get healthy, but you gotta have a guy out

1149
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 3: there that can set some screens for Shay offensively against

1150
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: the good teams like the Nuggets, or like the Spurs,

1151
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: or like the I mean, you're not going to get

1152
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: a lot of the shots that you got last night,

1153
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: for instance, against the Calves, against some of these other

1154
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 3: teams with lengthier defenders like an Amen Thompson for instance.

1155
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Well, the question is who's out there that they can

1156
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: get and what are they going to have to what

1157
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: are they going to have to lose in order.

1158
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: To get it?

1159
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: And the answer to that part might be not much,

1160
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: because you know, they've got a lot of flexibility built

1161
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: into uh well, outside of roster positions, they've got a

1162
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of flexibility still built in right now. I just

1163
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: don't know who's out there that they could get that

1164
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: size from that's really going to come in and compliment

1165
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: this line would makes sense.

1166
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1167
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: Like I said, it doesn't have to be some flashy guy,

1168
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: but just a bigger body down there to do some

1169
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 3: of the things that Jaywell does, for instance.

1170
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: U Jamal Murray has always been that kind of player.

1171
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray's issue has been his health inconsistency try stay healthy,

1172
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: and I think the consistency is also related to his health.

1173
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that he's he's so injury prone and not

1174
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: injury prone like a portzingis or one of those guys

1175
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: where you're like or Anthony Davis, where you're like, well,

1176
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: we can get this guy, but how much availability is

1177
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: he going to have. He's just a guy that has

1178
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: had some bad injury luck in his career. And that

1179
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: was the point that I want to make about the

1180
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: thunder is if you don't realize how blessed we have

1181
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: been not to have devastating injury. The worst injury that

1182
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: we've had was Chet last year, breaking his pelvis, and

1183
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: he was able to come back at the end of

1184
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: the season and into the postseason. I didn't play after

1185
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: that the way that he had played prior to the

1186
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: injury in the season, but we've been really lucky here

1187
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: that we've not had a devastating injury. That's like, oh, well,

1188
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: you know Jamal Jason Tatum getting hurt in Boston, That's like, okay,

1189
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: well you can just scrap the whole season or the

1190
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: Pacers I'm blanking on his name, Haliburton in Indiana, just

1191
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: these devastating injuries.

1192
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: Shay's been healthy. We've had guys that have gotten banged up.

1193
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess at this point we could start

1194
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: talking about Jay dubbed depend on how much availability he

1195
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: misses because of this between the hand and this maybe

1196
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: and Hartenstein. Frankly, his absences are stretching out now.

1197
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean the Thunders out to starters from the

1198
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: championship team last year, of the main starting lineup, and

1199
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 3: it goes to show, I mean, the main injury would

1200
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: be to Shay. You see what I'm saying, Like the

1201
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: Thunder can win a championship if Shake gild just Alexander

1202
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: is healthy and has any rotation of any of these

1203
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: other guys. One more thing on the Nuggets is they

1204
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: had won six of seven games and then on Sunday

1205
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: they lost to the Hornets. That means the Hornets have

1206
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: now blown out the Thunder Las and the Nuggets. I mean,

1207
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: three of the top teams in the West. I know

1208
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: the Lakers are reeling a little bit lately, but the Hornets,

1209
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: they're young group, they've got great talent to fruition a

1210
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: little bit. I think that here in the next couple

1211
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 3: of years you could see the Hornets make some noise

1212
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: in the East.

1213
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, Brandon Miller was great coming out of college

1214
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: and then he went to Charlotte and so it's just

1215
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: now that it's kind of oh, yeah, I remember this guy.

1216
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: He had a great game against the Thunder when they

1217
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: when they beat us badly. Yeah, they've got they've got

1218
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: they got good talent there.

1219
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: Did you get to watch any of the other games yesterday,

1220
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: for instance, the Knicks getting blown out yesterday?

1221
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: That what's going on with New York?

1222
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: They were they're not playing any defense. They're playing terrible defense,

1223
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: and that's what they normally hang their hat on.

1224
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: Right, that's my question. What's going on with them?

1225
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 1: Why are they not playing the way that we've become

1226
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: accustomed to them playing. Like what has changed in New

1227
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: York that all of a sudden they're they're on a skid.

1228
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: They're on a serious skid.

1229
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the home fans were booing in Madison Square

1230
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: Garden yesterday, but they are on a skid. And listen,

1231
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: I love the Pistons, I love Ky Cunningham. I think

1232
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: that Duran is gonna be an All Star in the

1233
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference. I still just don't necessarily trust them in

1234
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1235
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: I could be wrong.

1236
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 3: My point that I'm trying to make here is if

1237
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics, even if they don't get Jason Tatum back,

1238
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: but they still could get Jason Tatum back right now,

1239
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: they're so in the Eastern Conference. I mean, I think

1240
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics and Jalen Brown are He's playing at

1241
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: a not quite MVP level, not quite Jokic and Shay

1242
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: and wim bin Yama. But he's a little step below that,

1243
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: just a little step below that. But he's held down

1244
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: the fort with Tatum out, and they still could get

1245
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: Tatum back for the playoffs. The Celtics are the scariest

1246
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: team in the East right now.

1247
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: To me, they lost that game yesterday, but he had

1248
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: an unbelievable game thirty two and eleven.

1249
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: No, you're right, he's playing at a he's playing at

1250
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 3: a really high level. The East is still wide open.

1251
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the crazy thing about it is that

1252
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 3: I think you're probably right. I may be a little

1253
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: more bullish on the Pistons than you are, simply because

1254
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: the East is wide open, but I think there's still

1255
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: several teams.

1256
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: In the East that could be in contention at the

1257
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: end of the year. Now, Boston is probably the scariest

1258
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: team out there because they've got more pieces, and if

1259
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: they were to get Jason Tatum back. I don't know

1260
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: what kind of rust he's going to have to knock off,

1261
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: but they would be the scariest team if they get

1262
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum back. I don't know if if they will,

1263
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: and like I said, I don't know what kind of

1264
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: rust he's gonna be dealing with. But I mean, you

1265
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: could arguably put four or five teams out there that

1266
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: you could make a legitimate argument for that could represent

1267
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: the East this year.

1268
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna need They're gonna need some breaks out going.

1269
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: Their way, and it's also going to be what do

1270
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: teams do with the trade deadline?

1271
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: Right, And there's definitely some tension in New York too.

1272
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: I was watching that game yesterday and Brunson kind of

1273
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: tried to rally the guys together and gave them a

1274
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: little pep talk in the third quarter, and then they

1275
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: went out and got obliterated in the third quarter right

1276
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: right after the pep talk, and I heard Reggie Miller

1277
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: talking about it, saying, you know, it's not a good

1278
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: sign when a team doesn't respond to the best player

1279
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: throwing a little bit of a fit or kind of

1280
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: getting in there, you know what's right. And so right now,

1281
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: the two teams, like we just talked about in the

1282
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: East that I would trust are the Pistons and the Celtics.

1283
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: The Raptors are a nice surprise. Don't necessarily think they

1284
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: have enough to make the finals. I like the seventy

1285
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: six Ers when they're healthy, and then beat has been playing,

1286
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: and Maxie is an all Star starter in the Eastern Conference,

1287
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: So maybe the Sixers. But like I said, right now,

1288
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of question marks with the Knicks and

1289
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: the Sixers. So I would go Pistons, And so I

1290
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: would go Celtics and Pistons.

1291
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: Raptors are going to be here this weekend, by the way,

1292
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: they play in Okay See on Sunday. So we've got

1293
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Tomorrow night on the road, and then the Thunder

1294
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: come home to play Indiana on Friday, the Raptors Toronto

1295
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and on Tuesday, New Orleans will be in town.

1296
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: So three home games in a row after the fans

1297
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: at that game on Sunday.

1298
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: Game on Saturday is the one I'm really worried about

1299
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: because Friday and Saturday. Oh, you're right, it's Sunday, Friday

1300
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: and Sunday.

1301
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: It depends.

1302
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it is Friday and Sunday, So it

1303
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: depends on how early we get the weather on Friday.

1304
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, Sunday's game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're saying as much as six inches of

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Speaker 1: snow in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: So just on the first day, I saw twelve inches.

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Speaker 3: Oh total, I guess maybe I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 1: I thought what I was looking at was was the

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Speaker 1: snowfall total.

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Speaker 3: But if that's that's crazy. That is very un always

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Speaker 3: like a whole lot more snow than it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We've had nothing this year.

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Speaker 3: So that's what makes me think that we're due for

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Speaker 3: a big hammering, and this weekend is the first opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Now it says a total of ten to sixteen inches.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So Friday and Saturday one hundred percent chance of snow

1319
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: is what the forecast is right now.

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00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, it could be. It could be a mess.

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Who come this weekend? All right, we're gonna take a break.

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: We will come back.

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00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: There's a handful of things I want to get into,

1324
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk about the coaching carousel

1325
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL because it got a little weirder yesterday.

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: I was very surprised at the announcement yesterday from the

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00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills.

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: So we'll get into that.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: We'll talk about NFL coaches and where we're going in

1330
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: regards to that, and maybe preview the conference championship games

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: this weekend a little bit as well. It's the Middle

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Speaker 1: of the Day Show on a Tuesday out a eight

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Speaker 1: point one, The Sports Animal and the Sports Animal dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Good shot. Now it's time for The Way I See It.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely life changing stuff. Speaking of life changing stuff, the

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: way I see it this week is that Chris got

1348
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: her Up is the next star on the PGA Tour.

1349
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: Former sooner has been on tour for a couple of

1350
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: years now. But yesterday, while people were probably watching the

1351
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: basketball in the football at the Sony Open, Chris got

1352
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: her Up in Hawaii shot sixty four to win the

1353
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: Sony Open on the PGA Tour by two shots over

1354
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: Ryan Girard. And it's Chris's second win in his last

1355
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: eight starts, and it's his third win in the last

1356
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: three seasons. And since the start of twenty twenty four,

1357
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler has the most wins with thirteen, Rory McElroy

1358
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: as the second most wins with five, and then you

1359
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: got Chris got her Up with three, tied with Hideki

1360
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: matsu Yama, Xander Schoffley and Ben Griffin. And the reason

1361
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Speaker 3: why I say that he has the potential to be

1362
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: the next star, not necessarily Scotty Scheffler star, but one

1363
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: of the stars on the PGA Tour is because this

1364
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: guy has onions. We saw him go toe to toe

1365
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: at the Scottish Open last year with Rory McElroy. We

1366
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: saw him yesterday what do you do? Bertie twelve and thirteen,

1367
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: took the lead and then he had a two shot

1368
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: lead and on seventeen stuffs it in there to like

1369
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: nine feet and rolls it in high side to take

1370
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: a three shot lead, which turned into a two shot

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: lead after Gerard Bertie eighteen and then he you know,

1372
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 3: closed it out with a nice little textbook bogie on

1373
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: the final hole and wins his third PGA Tour event

1374
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: of his career. But Brad, I know you're not huge

1375
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: into golf, but Chris got her up four so Haskins

1376
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: Award winner in his one year at ou after transferring

1377
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: from Rutgers. This guy has all the potential in the world.

1378
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: He absolutely bombs it, has a great short game. But

1379
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: the thing I like most about him is he is

1380
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: clutch cool.

1381
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'll keep an eye out for him. Then, hey,

1382
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: did I get ball? Sacked.

1383
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: Did the President really say he was going to sign

1384
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: an executive order mandating that the Army Navy game be the.

1385
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: Only game on that day? I have no idea.

1386
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: I saw that yesterday and I didn't look to verify

1387
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: if it was legit or if somebody was just posting that.

1388
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a terrible idea. And I'll tell you

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01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: why not, Because I don't think that the Army Navy

1390
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 1: game is important. I do, and the ratings are good

1391
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: for it. Now I'd be interesting to see what the

1392
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: ratings were if there was another game on that day.

1393
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of what's wrong with.

1394
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: College football it can be fixed by in market. And

1395
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot, shortening that window and

1396
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: getting everything within one semester. And if you take that

1397
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: weekend off the calendar because the Army Navy game is

1398
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: going to have exclusivity, you're going to make it almost impossible.

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Speaker 2: To do that. You've got to have that weekend. And

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: so I don't like it.

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01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily the president's place, whoever the

1402
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: president might be at any given time to get involved

1403
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: in the scheduling of college football.

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: But and this is not a political statement. I just

1405
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: it's a reality statement on college football. I don't like

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: the idea of saying that that weekend is off the

1407
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: table because that game needs to have its own spotlight.

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: I think there are other things that are wrong with

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: college football that could be addressed, and that window is

1410
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: going to be a part of it. I also think

1411
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: they need to start the season earlier, whether you want

1412
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: to see but.

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Speaker 2: You can only start it zero.

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01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can only start it so much earlier. So

1415
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: that's that's why that weekend still is important. I mean, look,

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: we're two weeks into January and we just had the

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: championship game last night, right, So you're talking about two

1418
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: weeks right there already, So you take another week off,

1419
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: it's I just think it makes it almost impossible to

1420
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: make it so that the transfer portal is not going

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: to be the destructive force that it currently is is.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that we're expanding even probably next year,

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01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: right whether it's sixteen or twenty four. After seeing Miami

1424
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: make the championship game as a ten seed, seeing what

1425
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: Indiana has done, I mean, there's more parody than ever

1426
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: and I feel like a Notre Dame or a Texas

1427
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: or a Vanderbilt would have only made this college football

1428
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: playoff better. And so I think we all recognize that

1429
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: you're at fifteen right there.

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: So I think that it is without question a sixteen

1431
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: team field is not going to diminish the quality of play.

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01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: Heck, no, now you.

1433
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: Get out to twenty four, it's possible that you're going

1434
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 3: to have some games that you think. I don't really care.

1435
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: But to Mark's point about getting rid of the bowl games,

1436
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't care about the bowl games that much anyway

1437
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: unless it's a really good matchup.

1438
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: And if it's a really good matchup, those teams are

1439
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: probably going to be in that field of sixteen. So

1440
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: I could get with the twenty four, but I think

1441
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: sixteen is a no brainer in my opinion.

1442
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: They don't just go one through sixteen straight up bracket.

1443
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 3: But those three teams that you just laid out there,

1444
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: I understand the politics of it. I don't necessarily I

1445
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: don't have an aversion to doing that, but I do

1446
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: understand the politics of it, and I do not want

1447
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 3: to see a world where if you're a good enough team,

1448
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: you don't have an opportunity to play for it. But

1449
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: like I said, I mean you just named three more

1450
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: teams that you add to the field of and you

1451
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: can absolutely find another team that you're not going to

1452
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 3: feel like you're compromising the field by just throwing them

1453
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: in there. And listen, I'm not trying to take up

1454
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: for Texas. Texas did it to themselves by losing those games.

1455
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: Same thing with Notre Dame. Not beat Miami. If they

1456
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: beat Miami, Miami's not even in the playoffs. But my

1457
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: point is is it's a much better product if you

1458
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: have Texas or Notre Dame in the playoff instead of

1459
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 3: Twu Lane and James Madison and so. And I think

1460
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: that what have we always done in stories like this

1461
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: is follow the money, and there's a whole lot more

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: money to be made in matchups like an Old Miss

1463
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: and Texas, or Old Miss and Notre Dame, or Old

1464
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: Miss and Vanderbilt instead of you know, Old Miss and

1465
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: two Lane, for instance.

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Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think that what

1467
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: you do is relegate those teams and those those group

1468
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: of five schools. You're you're relegating them to being irrelevant.

1469
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: And I have a problem with that, but I can

1470
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: see I concede your point that they're not gonna win

1471
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 3: a championship. Well, I'm not even saying that. If they're

1472
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: ranked in the top sixteen, then let them play in

1473
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: the Big Boy Playoff. But other than that, give them

1474
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: their own playoff and let's go one through sixteen straight

1475
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: up bracket, like everybody wants to see.

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: Here's another situation with that Army Navy game. What I

1477
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: mean those that game has been good because those teams

1478
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: have been somewhat relevant in the last few years.

1479
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: What happens if one of them.

1480
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: Is gonna get in the field, like is gonna Is

1481
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: that gonna change the arithmetic of the way that that

1482
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: game is scheduled and played. I just I don't think

1483
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: it's a good idea to mark that weekend off the

1484
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: calendar and say this one belongs to Army Navy, and

1485
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: it is sacricanc to say that you could do anything

1486
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: besides that. So I and like I said, I don't

1487
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: know for sure that that was a legitimate thing. It

1488
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: might have been a bit of seconds. No, it's legitimate.

1489
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm reading it on CNN, CBS, Sports, Fox News, all

1490
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: of it. So I think that I think it will

1491
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: order TV networks to protect quote the Army Navy football

1492
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: game from competing TV broadcast. Isn't that weird that the

1493
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: President is going to decree that TV networks have to

1494
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: do something and it has to do with scheduling of

1495
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: college athletics. No, if that's what's best for the sport

1496
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: of college football, that they expand the playoff, which I

1497
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: think we all just agreed that it is, and if

1498
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: they need that weekend, I don't I disagree with Trump

1499
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: on him doing that.

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01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: But put it.

1501
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: You could put it on a Monday night, you could

1502
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: put it on a Thursday night. Like, there's a way

1503
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: that you can isolate that game out so that it

1504
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: still has the spotlight on it. But I think taking

1505
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: that weekend off the calendar is going to throw a

1506
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: kink into trying to address a lot of issues that

1507
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: college football has in terms of the collegiate coaching carousel,

1508
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, the issues of some of the scheduling

1509
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: of the playoff. I mean, with an expansion, it is

1510
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: almost I mean I think it's not even almost a certainty.

1511
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it is a certainty that with expansion you're

1512
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: going to see another round of home games, because I

1513
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: think that's been the great win out of what we've

1514
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: seen in the new iteration of the playoffs is getting

1515
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: to play. We saw Norman and Oklahoma didn't even win

1516
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: that game.

1517
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: What a great day that was at the University of

1518
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: Oklahoma hit So another round of that is going to

1519
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: be fantastic.

1520
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: Are you going to sacrifice the buys? I think you are,

1521
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it matters.

1522
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we're debating now is getting a bye

1523
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: really good? Because the math shows you that the buye

1524
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 3: teams that we did have a national champion that had

1525
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: a buy this, they're that's ever won, right, It's not, well,

1526
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: it is not necessarily based on the results the boon

1527
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: that it looked like it would be to have another

1528
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: week off. So I think another week of home games

1529
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 3: on campuses that earn it is going to be really

1530
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: good for college football.

1531
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: You could also move the Army Navy Navy game to

1532
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: some time, whether it's conference championship weekend, because if you

1533
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: you're not even gonna have conference championship weekend.

1534
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Does the pageantry of that game? Is their relevance in

1535
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: it being played at the end of the season. What

1536
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: if it was the opening game of the season every year?

1537
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: People are still they're starved for college football at that point.

1538
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: You could still have the pageantry, You could still do

1539
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: all of the things that they do, the walkover, the

1540
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, all of that stuff.

1541
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 3: You could still do it. It's just not gonna be

1542
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: at the end of the season.

1543
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: You do at the beginning of the season, and that's

1544
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: the one game that is in whatever the new Week

1545
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: zero might be. I mean, you think that's Do you

1546
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: think that's diminishing the importance of that game if you

1547
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: were to move it to the front of the season.

1548
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: Now, No, I don't. I think that that's a decent idea. Now,

1549
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: it would be weird playing that game in warm weather

1550
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: instead of cold weather, and that was part of the reason.

1551
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: I talked to Colin Madison, who played for Army this

1552
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 3: past season and had a really great year for the

1553
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: Army Black Knights, but talk to him about when the

1554
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: news came out of them wanting to move the Army

1555
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: Navy game permanently to Atlanta. H the team neither Army

1556
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: or a love that because they want to keep it

1557
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 3: in the Northeast and they like playing that game outside. Well,

1558
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: I think it's cool that they play it on the academy,

1559
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: so I kind of get that.

1560
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 2: I see that, and they're both.

1561
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: I mean Inapolis and obviously West Point, they're both you know,

1562
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: up in the northeast, and so it'd be weird to

1563
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: play that game in Atlanta and just play it indoors.

1564
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: But that goes to the pageantry as well, Like I

1565
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:27,440
Speaker 1: get it. Like it is, it's the magnificence of those academies.

1566
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: And listen, go in to Anapolis, you go over that

1567
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: bridge and all of a sudden you're in this town

1568
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: that is very clearly a military town. I mean, there's

1569
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: there's that there's an element there that you would lose

1570
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: if you were going to play Ever, says.

1571
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: I would assume this presidential executive order would mean just

1572
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: that time slot, not the full day, right.

1573
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: I, Like I said, I don't know.

1574
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 3: The way that I read it, it made it sound like

1575
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: it was that day needs to be just them and

1576
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 3: that window needs to be protected.

1577
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, the game is on.

1578
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: Isn't the game on CBS? Yeah?

1579
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's not like they're trying to push it

1580
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: out so that they could put something else on. I

1581
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: think it doesn't want the other networks to have a

1582
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: game on that's competing with that R and Y. You know, Okay,

1583
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but I

1584
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: think there's got to be a happy medium between trying

1585
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: to do that, because I do think it's cool. I

1586
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: think it's a great American tradition. I just to me,

1587
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: the greater problem is the transfer portal, and it's where

1588
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: it is and the way that it affects a postseason

1589
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: appearance by athletes, and how that affects the coaching carousel

1590
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level by teams. Are schools trying to

1591
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: jump out in front of each other so that they

1592
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: can get in front of all of those things. Getting

1593
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: it within that window of the one semester, I think

1594
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: is going to take a lot of that away. But

1595
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: if you take that weekend off the calendar, it's going

1596
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: to make it that much more difficult to try and

1597
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: do it.

1598
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: So if you start, the earlier you start, the more

1599
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 3: you stop competing with the NFL as well. True, yeah,

1600
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 3: for sure, because I mean they've already this year that

1601
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: James Madison game had like four million viewers, and the

1602
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: Bears and Packers played that same time. I can't remember

1603
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: whether it was old missing two late or James Madison

1604
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: and Oregon, but each of them had like four million viewers,

1605
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 3: and the Packers and Bears had like over twenty two

1606
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: million viewers. And so my point is like, you got

1607
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: to avoid competing with the NFL as much as possible, right,

1608
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 3: college football?

1609
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: All right, Speaking coaching carousels in the NFL, I was

1610
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: really surprised to see Buffalo launch Sean McDermott yesterday. I

1611
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: think they basically just provided another team with a really

1612
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: good coach. But I want to talk about that. I

1613
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: mean to keep this in perspective. There are thirty two

1614
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: NFL teams. There are ten head coaching positions available this year. Now,

1615
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: some of them have been filled already, but a third

1616
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: of the NFL was looking for a head coach this year.

1617
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So we'll get into that. How much does

1618
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: this change things for Buffalo? Does this fix what's wrong

1619
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: with Buffalo?

1620
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: I personally don't think that it does, but I'm open

1621
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: to hear arguments otherwise. So we'll get into that when

1622
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: we continue on the middle of the day A ninety

1623
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 3: eight point one, The Sports Animal and wherever you go

1624
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: with the Sports Animal app boy, I feel bad for

1625
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills fans. They are the new.

1626
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs or Boston Red Sox. They're just perennial sufferers.

1627
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: They can get close, but they can't quite get to

1628
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: the promised land. But I gotta tell you, when I

1629
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: saw the news yesterday that they'd fired Sean McDermott, I

1630
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: was like, well, you just gave somebody a really good coach.

1631
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: I realize that there is a level of frustration that exists,

1632
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: and I want to differentiate this because listen, I still

1633
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: think Mike Tomlin has got plenty of tread on the tires.

1634
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: I think he'll go somewhere at some point and be

1635
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: a good coach still. But McDermott, this is nothing to

1636
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 1: me but a throwing a sacrificial lamb to the fans,

1637
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: right Like, you look at the numbers of his career.

1638
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 1: Outside of his first year as the head coach of Buffalo,

1639
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: they've gone to the playoffs. No his first two years.

1640
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: His second year was actually his worst year there. The

1641
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: last seven years, they've had double digit wins every year,

1642
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: and in six of those seven they've won a playoff game,

1643
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen has not. Now, they're personnel issues. There

1644
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: are problems in Buffalo. I'm not saying the situation in

1645
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo is perfect, but I don't think the problem is

1646
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. I think that they have had some personnel problems.

1647
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: They have had the juggernaut of the Kansas City Chiefs

1648
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 1: that they've had to deal with their entire time there.

1649
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: But do you really think that Buffalo is going to

1650
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: be better next year without Sean McDermott than they have

1651
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: been with Sean McDermott. I just don't think that. But

1652
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: it could happen, but I don't think that. I don't

1653
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: think it's a guaranteed turn of events.

1654
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that.

1655
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: I mean, his defense made the plays in that game,

1656
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: or enough plays in that game to win the game.

1657
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 3: Josh Allen had three fumbles, two of those he lost.

1658
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: He threw two picks, and then he threw the low

1659
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: ball on the screen pass that would have made it

1660
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: an eight point game with four minutes and thirty seconds left,

1661
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 3: and he missed Dalton Knox on the why open third

1662
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: and ten with sixteen seconds left. He had to pick

1663
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: with seven minutes left and overtime on second down. I mean,

1664
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 3: Josh Allen gets more. People just love Josh Allen so

1665
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: much that I feel like he's not getting any of

1666
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 3: the blame in any of these situations, whether it's in

1667
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 3: the media. I heard Dan Orlowski blaming an offensive lineman

1668
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 3: for not jumping on Josh Allen's fumble. Are you kidding me?

1669
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: But I'm saying that they had to do something, and

1670
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: it was, like you said, the sacrificial lamb. But in

1671
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: all honesty, Josh Allen is the guy that's eight and

1672
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 3: seven in the playoffs now eight and seven. He's a

1673
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: great quarterback in the regular season, but he doesn't get

1674
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: it done in the playoffs. He only has one game

1675
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 3: winning drive in the playoffs.

1676
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: You can't fire Josh Allen, though, is the problem, and

1677
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: so you gotta fire somebody, and it winds up being

1678
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. And like I said, I think he'll go

1679
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: somewhere else and be a great coach for them as well.

1680
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,440
Speaker 1: They might not have the personnel that he had in Buffalo.

1681
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: But it just is crazy to me that this is

1682
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: somehow to appease the fans. It's gonna be interesting to

1683
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: have the like you know, your dad was very vocal

1684
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: about how he was over Mike Tomlin and ready for

1685
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to make a change. Does the Bill's mafia feel

1686
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: that way about Sean McDermott, Like, are they happy yesterday

1687
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: after the news comes out that he's fired or do

1688
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: they question, okay, now what comes next? Because Sean McDermott

1689
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't throw those interceptions against him?

1690
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: And it's not just this game.

1691
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Allen, by the way, had just as

1692
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 3: many turnovers yesterday or in that game against the Broncos

1693
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: this past weekend as Jalen Hurts has in his entire

1694
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 3: playoff career that's ten games long. And so I guess

1695
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 3: my point is, do you see where the double standard

1696
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 3: is coming from? Maybe those Bills fans are brainwashed and

1697
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 3: do think that Josh Allen can get it done in

1698
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: the playoffs, But do you see the double standard of

1699
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: how we react to a Jalen Hurts or a CJ.

1700
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 3: Stroud and how we react to with Josh Allen. Josh

1701
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: Allen is the sole reason why the Bills. Bills are

1702
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: not still in the playoffs.

1703
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: Well, but Josh Allen also benefits from the fireworks that

1704
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: he's shown against Kansas City in that game where they

1705
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: went back and forth in that two minute period and

1706
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: all those points were scored. You know that people remember that,

1707
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: and they know that he has that inside of him,

1708
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: and so they give him the benefit of the doubt.

1709
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: And I understand why you would do that too, because

1710
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: the alternative is you go out and draft a quarterback

1711
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: and you might wind up with CJ.

1712
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: Stroud.

1713
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm not willing to throw Stroud on the scrap

1714
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: heap of history just yet, but boy, he better figure

1715
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: it out. You might go out, here's a better one.

1716
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: You might go out and draft Kyler Murray.

1717
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: Right, listen, I mean you Here's the thing is, you're

1718
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: not gonna get rid of Josh Allen.

1719
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 3: Yes, I do believe that they can still have success,

1720
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: maybe with an offensive guy like a day Baller Kubiak,

1721
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: or even promoting Joe Brady as the guy. But let's

1722
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: be honest about this. The last four times in the

1723
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: playoffs that Josh Allen has had the opportunity to send

1724
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 3: his team to the next he's had the ball in

1725
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: his hands with the chance to do that and he

1726
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: hasn't done it.

1727
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1728
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: Well, and he even had that chance in this pass

1729
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 3: game because of the defense, right, I mean, the defense

1730
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 3: kept them with a chance in that game, even though

1731
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: he turned the ball over four times.

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: Well, that brings me back to the point of bringing

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: this up, and that is, is your team really better off?

1734
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying today. It happened yesterday, but it's in the past.

1735
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: So is your team better off today than it was

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01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: yesterday morning before you got word that he had been fired? Now,

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't think the answer is you really don't know,

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: And I think not knowing. You've got a guy that

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: has been as consistently good as McDermott has been for Buffalo.

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Now his time has coincided with Josh Allen, so that's

1741
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: been to his benefit because he also benefited from those

1742
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: theatrics of Josh Allen in.

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01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: Some of those games.

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: But I think oftentimes coaches get fired and that doesn't

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: really change what the underlying problem is. It's just the

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: easiest move to make, and I think that's what Buffalo

1747
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: did here.

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they all, like you said, it's a sacrificial lamb.

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm just like I said, Maybe I'm transferring the conversation

1750
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 3: to more Josh Allen, but I do feel like that's

1751
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: part of the reason why McDermott got fired. It's Josh

1752
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: Allen gets all of these excuses. It's oh, he doesn't

1753
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 3: have the weapons, or oh it's McDermott, you know, or oh,

1754
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: you know he made all the plays against Mahomes. Well, listen,

1755
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: he didn't win those games. And this year he had

1756
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: the best running back in the league, the best offensive

1757
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: line in the league, and the number one pass defense

1758
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: in the league according to the numbers. I mean, when

1759
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: are we going to stop giving Josh Allen a pass?

1760
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 3: But that is I think the sole reason why McDermott's

1761
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 3: not their coach anymore.

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01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: But again, he has all these protections built in that

1763
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: a coach doesn't have. No you're right, you can run

1764
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: a coach off and you know there might be a

1765
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: buy out, there might be a payoff, but no harm,

1766
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: no foul. But if you try and get rid of

1767
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: a guy that you've got that kind of a contract

1768
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: with and you've got that kind of financial commitment to.

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01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't work. And the fans aren't probably going to

1770
01:18:58,400 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: understand it.

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: That's that's why I would be curious to know what

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: the average Buffalo Bill fan thinks, is like, do you

1773
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: feel like this was a good move by your organization?

1774
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: Because you also could point and I don't know what

1775
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: kind of of personnel control McDermott had, but you can

1776
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: also point to, is he the guy that's making the

1777
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: decision on keeping this personnel and getting rid of this?

1778
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: Is he the guy that's making the decision on who's

1779
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: going to be drafted and where is he going to

1780
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: get d Has he had a lot of him? And

1781
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: I say this out of stupidity, I don't know what

1782
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: kind of stroke he had when it comes to personnel.

1783
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 1: But short of having that kind of stake in the

1784
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: personnel decisions, it's hard to hold a coach that accountable. Now,

1785
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: there are coaches that are terrible, there are coaches that

1786
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: completely need to be replaced, and it's obvious I just

1787
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: don't think McDermott is under that category.

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 3: You're kind of comparing Tomlin and McDermott. The difference that

1789
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: I see is that it's just been mediocrity for the

1790
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 3: last decade with the Steelers, and they haven't really been

1791
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: in that situation. I mean McDermott and Josh Allen and

1792
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 3: the Bills have been in that situation to do big things.

1793
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 3: And I'm talking win super Bowls or get to the

1794
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, or get to the AFC championship game and

1795
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: they haven't done it. But I don't believe it's because

1796
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: of McDermott. I believe it's because Josh Allen has fifteen

1797
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: fumbles in fifteen playoff games.

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, I think it stings even more this year because

1799
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the obstacles that had been there for

1800
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: them in years past were moved out.

1801
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: Of the way.

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01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: And I also think it stings a little bit more

1803
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: because the Patriots won that division this year and Buffalo

1804
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: has always kind of been the little brother to the

1805
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: Patriots through the tenure of Tom Brady and all of that,

1806
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: all that winning that they did, Buffalo looked at that

1807
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: and had to live in the shadow of that. And

1808
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: so the fact that they won that division and they're

1809
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: still alive with a chance to go to the super

1810
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: Bowl and Buffalo's not when the field sort of cleared

1811
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: out for them, made it that much worse.

1812
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: But that's exactly right. You mentioned it right there. That

1813
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: is a big deal too to those fans. No Mahomes,

1814
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: no Burrow, no Lamar, no Hurts. I mean, this was

1815
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's year to do it, and they still couldn't

1816
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: do it. If we can't do it, this year.

1817
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: We can't do it, but I again, I'll finish this

1818
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: the way I started it. I think somebody just got

1819
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: a great coach, and Sean McDermott because he's proven that

1820
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: he could do it. Now if he winds up, if

1821
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: he winds up going somewhere like Tennessee, it's gonna be

1822
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: an uphill case going to Tennessee. Roberts, is that for sure.

1823
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: I know that they were trying to finalize a deal,

1824
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: but it hadn't been.

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01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 3: Schefter was acting like it was official. Okay, So right

1826
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 3: now you got Solid to the Titans, Harbaugh to the Giants,

1827
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 3: Stefanski to the Falcons, and Jeff Halfley, the defensive coordinator

1828
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 3: for the Packers.

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: To the Dolphins. All right, well, uh so you got

1830
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: the Bill Steelers, Ravens.

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01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I would still bet on Sean McDermott

1832
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: at this point if I'm an organization that's looking for

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: a really good head coach.

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01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's gonna do it for us. Sam enjoyed it.

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01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: I will talk to you on Thursday. Mark will be

1837
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: back in with Kale tomorrow. He was just taking a

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: day off today, so he will see you tomorrow.

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