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Speaker 1: It's starting work on a Monday afternoon. Adam Copeland, Deep

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Speaker 1: Pop is out today. Always peculiar when it do takes

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Speaker 1: the day the day after his birthday. Anyway, Deep Pop

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Speaker 1: out today. We are live from the tank. Tim Webster too.

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Speaker 1: He's sitting in this little like closet area, but there

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Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, you're watching on the YouTube stream. You

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Speaker 1: Ramy with you. We are live from the tank for

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Speaker 1: the Sharks and the Blackhawks tonight to seven o'clock puck drop.

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Speaker 1: We've also tonight right here on the Sports Leader, got

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Speaker 1: Giants and the Phillies starting a three game series to

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Speaker 1: wrap up the seven game homestands. See if the Giants

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Speaker 1: can get to two home wins on the season. We

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Speaker 1: got pregame at five forty five, first pitch at six

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Speaker 1: forty five. We'll get into some Sharks, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the return of Steph Curry. Big Bay Area sports weekend,

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Speaker 1: and we should also know the Earthquakes got a w

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Speaker 1: this weekend. The voice of the Earthquakes, ted Ramy with us,

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Speaker 1: and of course you can see him on pre and

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Speaker 1: post game coverage of NBC Sports California Sharks coverage all

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Speaker 1: season long, as well as the Morning Tide on the

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Speaker 1: Sharks Audio Network. Ted is the Sharks Audio Network, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big part. But don't forget about Andrewsowski. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't forget about Ruis. But come on, man, I

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Speaker 1: mean Ted, You're doing more than tied. Max Miller's gonna

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Speaker 1: join us. He's he's got a he's a contributor to

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Speaker 1: to NHL dot com and he does a lot of audio.

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Speaker 1: You've had him on as a gas he dies some

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Speaker 1: riding and he's done stuff with that with serious except

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Speaker 1: their NHL channel as well. So he's a San Jose guy,

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Speaker 1: San Jose State native, or a lum. I should say

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Speaker 1: he'll come buy three fifteen talks about some Sharks with us.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warsovski, head coach of the Sharks, probably our last

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Speaker 1: conversation with him of the regular season. Seven games to go?

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Speaker 1: Is that where I'm at right now? Seven games to

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Speaker 1: play for the Sharks? A couple of points back at

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Speaker 1: that last playoff spot and then Susan Slusser at five

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Speaker 1: point fifteen. Ted, When you think about this weekend in

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Speaker 1: Bay Area sports, what stands out the most is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it the Giants dropping three or four and all

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Speaker 1: getting shellacked when it comes to putting up runs in

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry? Is it the devastating I would say, sort

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Speaker 1: of a gut punch loss for the Sharks on Saturday

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Speaker 1: that was a hell of a game and really a

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Speaker 2: The score not indicative, no, not indicative, but you start

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Speaker 2: off three nothing in that game. But to me, the

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Speaker 2: one that kind of is the most of an affirmation

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Speaker 2: about where a franchise is is the Warriors with Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: because he showed that he can come back like that's

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Speaker 2: his floor, imagine what his ceiling is. He hasn't played

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Speaker 2: that is capable of being an MVP. But that's more

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Speaker 2: of a exactly what we expected it to be. The

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Speaker 2: most concerning thing to me, though, is the Giants. After

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Speaker 2: you think things are gonna get rolling in a nice way,

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Speaker 2: after the way they play Friday night, is the rest

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Speaker 2: of the way that series goes and you just doesn't

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Speaker 2: And I know we're early, I know there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of baseball left to play, but there is a lot

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Speaker 2: of rhyme that I'm feeling about their game right now

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Speaker 2: compared to what I've seen in recent Giants baseball memory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Giants for sure the most frustrating to me, because

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Speaker 1: we've got a real playoff like scoreboard watching, playoff hunt

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Speaker 2: Nashville has an incredible run. Yeah, they really have the

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Speaker 1: It's like, sometimes you got to make that climb.

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Speaker 2: game seventy six tonight for San Jose. They have four

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Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be very, very busy from here

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Speaker 2: Nobody thinks the Sharks are here.

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Speaker 1: I was like, dude, fifteenth straight against Nashville, which, by

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Speaker 1: Get to see him next week, next Monday. Week from today,

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Speaker 1: It's like a sweatshirt that's gotta lion knitted on. And

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Speaker 2: Though, even if it's stylistically lacking, the sweater would be warm. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this sweater would be or itchy, itchy too, but warm.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, did your parents make you do that? Like grandma

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Speaker 2: I can't remember anything specifically like that off the top

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Speaker 1: My grandma would like my grandma would knit us quilt.

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Speaker 2: of sports for Yeah, if you're right you know about

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Speaker 2: about who you know, whatever the whatever, whatever deity they're

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Speaker 2: I was like, you maybe the real gift as you're

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Speaker 1: Rather you know the real the real gift went into

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Speaker 1: the money, Well, how much Sammary spend with them?

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Speaker 2: But if they send it family here, coach, I think

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Speaker 2: I work the other way, dude, I want to be bought,

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Speaker 1: That's why you're wearing the Sharks as Derek in honor

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Speaker 1: of Territude who's not here? I mean, Derek's the guy

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Speaker 1: Derek was is always when we're gonna do it, Ivent goes,

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Speaker 1: don't be afraid to bring me some gifts. Some gifts, dude,

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Speaker 1: I just got a little uncomfortable joking about buying you.

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Speaker 1: I want to how about this? I want to I

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Speaker 1: and then I think to myself, man, that's where whatever

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Speaker 2: to sell like that. Somebody came up to me and said,

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Speaker 1: There's always dude, everybody's got a fee. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: only there's only one. Actually, I came down like behind

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Speaker 1: endorsements and you know, talk to my guy Mosculitz. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's only been every day We're good.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, everything's going well, everything's fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if you know what I mean, we get these endorsements,

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal though, why I think it's intriguing Steph

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Speaker 4: I'd say, you've got to be smart and do the

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to is Tuesday probably be the

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Speaker 1: So I you know, they can't go up, they can't

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Speaker 1: also talking about Steph like when he's out there, we

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Speaker 1: know that this is still his prime. Can he do

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Speaker 1: this every night? I don't know. Can you save him

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Speaker 1: enough so he can do it in the postseason? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: So when I ask now what the value of this

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Speaker 1: season may be, I'm kind of wondering, is there anything

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Speaker 1: Steph can do to your point about not wanting to

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Speaker 1: play him even if you're a good team because you

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Speaker 1: got to chase him around for however many games it is?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything Steph can do that is a legacy

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Speaker 1: type of thing for himself this season? And the best

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Speaker 1: thing I can come up with is you win to

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Speaker 1: play in games? Yeah, and you take okay see to

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Speaker 1: the break if you got to like Game seven with

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Speaker 1: Oka see, And to be honest with you, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a possibility. Oh I think it is. See.

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Speaker 1: I think Steph Curry I'm changing anything at anymore. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I hear that. I don't think they have

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Speaker 1: the tools around him for him to do it four

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Speaker 1: times or three times. I mean, that's the things I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't better than either. But I'd be a

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Speaker 1: fool to bet against Steph Curry in any acsition. My

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Speaker 1: thing is if they can get out of two playing games,

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Speaker 1: eliminate somebody, make it hard on somebody else. If you

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Speaker 1: can take okay, see to the brink, I would take

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Speaker 1: like I would take that type of opening round series

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Speaker 1: in the way that I looked at We Believe and said, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's just another look what this guy can do by himself.

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Speaker 1: If he's got two other pieces or one other piece,

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Speaker 1: they're a championship caliber team as like a four or five.

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Speaker 2: Anything that comes in with the Warriors advancing out of

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Speaker 2: the play ins and getting and to be able to

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Speaker 2: make some noise at the very least centered around Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry playing like Steph Curry. That's legacy adding because it

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Speaker 2: shows all the detractors, all the doubters about Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: just what he is singularly capable of. And that's not

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Speaker 2: to detract from anybody else on the Warriors, but when

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Speaker 2: Steph got into the game, you saw what a difference

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Speaker 2: he is compared to everybody else out there on the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean that as any sign of disrespect.

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Speaker 2: That's just a show of how good Steph is. But

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Speaker 2: I think it would also remind the Warriors top brass.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a reminder their need,

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Speaker 2: but they'd be able to see very clearly. Okay, if

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Speaker 2: we are aggressive, if we can change things in terms

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Speaker 2: of the tools that are around him, or how aggressive

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Speaker 2: we want to being going out and getting somebody in

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Speaker 2: the offseason, that you still have a relative window, if

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Speaker 2: we want to call it that, because I think the

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Speaker 2: window is as long as Steph Curry wants it to be.

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Speaker 2: Because while we talk about Lebron being a vampire, Steph

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Speaker 2: is not going to be able to do a lot

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Speaker 2: defensively as he gets later into his career and you

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Speaker 2: have to manage his minutes a little bit more. But

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Speaker 2: I think that his weapon offensively, purely, he is going

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Speaker 2: to be able to do this. I think for as

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Speaker 2: long as he wants. I think he still. Did you

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Speaker 2: see anything last night that made you think, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's not. He can't create space anymore, he can't get

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Speaker 2: the shot off quickly. Now he's a guy that can

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Speaker 2: go for as long as he wants. And if I

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Speaker 2: said that he was playing in twenty thirty, would that

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Speaker 2: shock you in thirty Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I kind of feel like that's about where

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Speaker 1: we're at because because he's a shooter and because he

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Speaker 1: can be a weapon like this, and he can catch

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Speaker 1: fire in the way that you saw last night, like

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't even start the game red hot, finish eleven

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Speaker 1: to twenty, made five threes, and carry them back into

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Speaker 1: the game at the end. When you know he's capable

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Speaker 1: of that, and you manage his minutes. I used to

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Speaker 1: like they always say the shots to the last, then

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Speaker 1: to go. I don't think he's gonna lose tons on

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Speaker 1: his speed or his his agility because of how he prepares.

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Speaker 1: It's about how do you manage those minutes and how

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Speaker 1: good can he be If he's not the best player

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Speaker 1: on his team or not capable of carrying the load

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Speaker 1: throughout a season like that, he needs more. And I

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Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate as a fan that last year

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Speaker 1: before they made the trade for Jimmy because of initially

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Speaker 1: it was like, now we're not in on Jimmy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then Durant became available. Then Durant wasn't coming here,

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Speaker 1: so then they're back in on Jimmy, and Jimmy couldn't

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Speaker 1: go to Phoenix because of the the Bradley Beal movement

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Speaker 1: and all that, So then Jimmy's all right, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: back in on the Dubs, and that became the best piece.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciated Steph saying I don't just want to

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Speaker 1: gut the organization for the future, like I have a

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Speaker 1: responsibility to the team and the organization. That's not the

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Speaker 1: way a lot of guys think about it. No, Stebron's

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Speaker 1: gonna make you use up every resource you can, except

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Speaker 1: now he's not the guy. Yeah, well now he is

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Speaker 1: again because Luca out for the rest of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But the point being less, unless his trip to Europe

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Speaker 2: works out, they're trying to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: To the point being that, unless you get a player

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Speaker 1: that can be a younger, really a number two to

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Speaker 1: staff going into next year, and it's not Jimmy Draymont

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Speaker 1: on the roster, I don't know how this becomes another

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Speaker 1: championship caliber running team.

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Speaker 2: Because, like I said, you have that ability of multiple years.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, twenty thirty. If that's the end, you

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Speaker 2: have a little bit of planning time and you have

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Speaker 2: the ability to bring things in now. Because it didn't

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Speaker 2: work out with Kaminga, because it didn't work out with Wiseman,

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Speaker 2: I think that has damaged the situation overall, and damage

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Speaker 2: is probably too harsh of a term, but it's made

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Speaker 2: it more difficult than it otherwise would have been because

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Speaker 2: if either of those are pure hits. Because I'm one

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Speaker 2: of those rare guys, I do not take umbrage with

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Speaker 2: the way that Kamena thing worked out. I think that

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Speaker 2: they were very clear about what he was and what

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Speaker 2: he could be, with the centerpiece being Steph and if

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Speaker 2: you're got him for as long as it looks like

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Speaker 2: he can go, then that's what you have to play around.

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Speaker 2: So I think you just have to figure out how

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Speaker 2: you can bring in pieces. And I think if you

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Speaker 2: tell Joe lacub like this is gonna cost you, but

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Speaker 2: it could bring in another run to a title or

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Speaker 2: at least into an NBA finals. You got to go

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Speaker 2: all in because you have one of the all time

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Speaker 2: great player. And I know that people debate me about

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Speaker 2: this for all the time, but in terms of the

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Speaker 2: gravitational pull on the floor. There's Wilton Russell, their Shack,

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Speaker 2: and there's Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else besides those has changed Mail. Yeah, focus, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Shack was an I mean the inside out nature of

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Speaker 1: Shock was otherworldly. People forget the dominance of Shack.

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Speaker 2: People don't people remember the older Shack. They don't remember

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Speaker 2: how quick he was, how fast he was when he

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Speaker 2: first got into the league out of l s U

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Speaker 2: and when he was first him and even when he

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Speaker 2: was healthy because he already started having the issues with

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. But his spin move, his passing, the way

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Speaker 2: he would set up Kobe. Sometimes people forget and then

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Speaker 2: you know, they see the replay of Kobe setting up

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Speaker 2: Shack for the al up, and I believe that was one.

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Speaker 2: Like he would fly out there when he was healthy,

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Speaker 2: when he was feeling it. He was such an incredible act. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you sound like when he's like, people remember the older.

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Speaker 1: Shack And I was like, yeah, yeah, calv Shack. That's

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Speaker 1: always why I think Celtic Celtic Shock. Dude. He would

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Speaker 1: still solid on the suns, by the way, Yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: He was like nashing him and Amari like they by

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Speaker 1: the way, Steve Kerr was a GM I think that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was still going for like sixteen eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a good player. Alvin Gentry out there, there

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Speaker 1: was a couple of good series with with that Sun's

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Speaker 1: team going up against Kobe. Remember Nash broke his nose

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Speaker 1: in that second round series. I remember at one point

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Speaker 1: in the second year they played each other, Kobe hit

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Speaker 1: a fadeaway baseline jumper as he did, and as he's

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Speaker 1: running back on court, Gentry calls a tight on. He's

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Speaker 1: like smiling, like Kobe got us, and Kobe tapped him

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Speaker 1: on the ass. I was like, damn, dude, that's pretty funny. Man.

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Speaker 1: His pretential. He's like, what am I gonna do? Like,

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Speaker 1: it's Kobe Bryant. That's the move we all know is

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Speaker 1: coming and can't stop it. Adam Copeland ten Ramy with

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Speaker 1: you Live from the Shark Tank with the Sharks by

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Speaker 1: the way tonight drop bucket seven o'clock Sharks and the Blackhawks.

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Speaker 2: I'd say it's a half to half. Oh most definitely,

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Speaker 2: this is a team that's a must win. But it's

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Speaker 2: a half to half. No, it is a must win.

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Speaker 2: They're all essentially must wins because you're not gonna win

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Speaker 2: every single one, because the Sharks haven't won more than

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Speaker 2: four in a row dating back to the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen season, So you gotta view them all as

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Speaker 2: must win games if you want to get in. And

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Speaker 2: it's even if even if they win six out of

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Speaker 2: their remaining seven, it's still gonna be tough. But they

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Speaker 2: they got to beat a team like Chicago that's already

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Speaker 2: been eliminated. The Sharks still have everything to play for.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, like nobody wants to play Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry in the first round, nobody wants to play the Sharks.

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Speaker 1: I'd be annoying, dude, I'd be annoying. You know. We'll

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Speaker 1: get more into this in just a minute. I should

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Speaker 1: tell you, by the way, that today's show and the

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Speaker 1: dot org. And then real quick and Tim says, we

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Speaker 1: got to get out of here. But I was talking

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Speaker 1: about how I'm wearing this this Sharks hat that Tim

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Speaker 1: gave me for Christmas. I felt like I had to

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Speaker 1: wear it because it was like when your grandma comes

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Speaker 1: to town, you gotta wear the sweater she gave you.

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Speaker 1: Except my grandma never gave me a sweater. She used

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Speaker 1: to send us for Christmas a card that said we

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Speaker 1: had donated money in our name to some like the

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Speaker 1: choir of his stands as the Human Fund. Somebody checked

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Speaker 1: in and said nine to one six on the Golden

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Speaker 1: State number and show for room text line nine one six. This, coaches,

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Speaker 1: the donation has been made in your name to the

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Speaker 1: Human Fund, money for the people. Five. When I says, coach,

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Speaker 1: you're sure it wasn't the Human fun that Castanza made

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Speaker 1: up eight three months as coach? Did you write off

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Speaker 1: the donations on your taxes? What taxes? I was eleven?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What kinda be that's? That?

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Speaker 1: To me was like more of my like my grandmother

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Speaker 1: slapping me in the face. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas kid, We donated money to acquire for you

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Speaker 1: in your name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but your grand musn't slapping in the face. He's

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Speaker 2: bringing That's good cosmic karmas. Can I get an album?

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Speaker 1: At least? Can I get a recording of the choir?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Can I get it? Nothing

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Speaker 1: in return. But you should do is contact him now

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Speaker 1: and find out if there's a record of this. You

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Speaker 1: guys owe me. Yeah, dude, I'm just saying I'm checking

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Speaker 1: in donations some po box in the Cayman Island somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Oudam Copeland ted Ramy with you Live from the Tank.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we get into the Sharks? How confident are you,

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Speaker 1: ted Ramy that the Sharks are going to make the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about what formula. It's gonna take seven games

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Speaker 1: to play, and those seven start tonight against the black

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Speaker 1: Hawks at seven o'clock. How confident are you the Sharks

642
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: are making the playoffs? Eight o waight, KMB are the

643
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Speaker 1: number to call intext It's work on a Monday. The

644
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Speaker 1: sports Leader, sports Leader, Yeah, Voice of the Quakes, host

645
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: of the Morning, Tied on the Sharks audio networking pre

646
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: and post for NBC California's Sharks coverage all season long.

647
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Speaker 1: Father friend, passionate lover. I don't know his kids here,

648
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: so I have to assume it worked twice. That's all

649
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: you need, win five two times.

650
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it was the same percentage on that goalie

651
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: is phenomenal.

652
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, he's hit, he's got a higher percentage

653
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: of the Giants right now. Actually they've got three, three

654
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: and ten, So all right, we got the Sharks that

655
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: I had seven o'clock against the Blackhawks. This has been,

656
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean incredible the season. I mean, I don't want

657
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: to even get into the big picture of the season

658
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: because we've done that with you all season long. And

659
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I said to Derek at one point a couple of months,

660
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe a month ago, right funny, like right out of

661
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: the Olympic break, right before the start of the six

662
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: game losing streak, I was like, you know what, I'm

663
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: at the point where I'd be disappointed if they missed

664
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: the playoffs because of how well they've played. Then the

665
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: six games come and I went, you know what, it's

666
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: really tough to project out, especially for the youth of

667
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: this team for the first time being in these moments

668
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: and for the first time any of these guys or

669
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: a lot of them have participated in an Olympic break

670
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, and for Macklin playing

671
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: at the highest level, a lot of it's like Starry,

672
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made. They're not in the

673
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: gold medal game without Maclin.

674
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, hearing your mental gymnastics. I want to let all

675
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: my Sharks coworkers know that our messaging has worked because

676
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: you were ready to justify why they should be in

677
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: and why they should be out.

678
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: So then we're getting it across well. But no, but

679
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: you're right though, I mean, I mean, there's reason to

680
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: believe they shouldn't be but also when you see a

681
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: young team play this late and getting that. The moment

682
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: that did it for me was when Macklin's like in

683
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: I think it might have been the sixth game, the

684
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: sixth loss, fifth or sixth, and he said, you know, man,

685
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm not doing enough to help

686
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: the team or do my job. When I was like, ah, shucks, kid.

687
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: That was the overtimer, Yes, the overtime, a loss against

688
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: the Blues with two point four seconds five or six.

689
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: That was That was the sixth I think, because the

690
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: next one was at Columbus when they won, if I

691
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: remember it correctly. But he didn't back check hard enough

692
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: to come and try and block the shot because he

693
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: thought the clock was gonna run out and they were

694
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: going to go to overtime, and everybody was like Maclin's tired.

695
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: Everyone you know everyone's coming to hard to down on

696
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: Macklin and then he after that shows up with two

697
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: three and four point games. The play you heard coming

698
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: back was the TNT call of the game winner against

699
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: the Ducks where the Sharks rallied from two goals down late.

700
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: Macklin celebraty had four points in that game. Was absolutely phenomenal.

701
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: It was three straight games and they hit the game

702
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: winning goal in the final final ninety seconds. Yeah that

703
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: which was regulation. Yeah, incredible, absolutely incredible comebacks for the

704
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Sharks and game winning goals. However, the drama has been there.

705
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: You flash back to twenty ten, the torture of the Giants.

706
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: That's what the Sharks do because they've had so many

707
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: late wins this year. They're the anti La King. Yeah,

708
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: they come up big at the big moments. Well, that

709
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: clutch factor of this team is phenomenal.

710
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Speaker 1: And that's something that that intrigued me this time of

711
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: year because it doesn't ever appear. It's almost the mentality

712
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: of we don't know, we shouldn't be winning these games.

713
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: We're faster than a lot of these teams, We're quicker

714
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: and more athletic and younger than a lot of these

715
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: teams and while not as polished, if we're around late,

716
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: we've got an opportunity to do some damage. And they've

717
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: shown that from the start of the year basically once

718
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: they start, when they go oh and six to start

719
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: four to two to start the season, and then started

720
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: winning all these games late and close. And they've done

721
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: it in the with the ability to come back in games.

722
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Remember the Pittsburgh game of course, Incredible five or whatever

723
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: it is WI and they come back and win that game.

724
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Speaker 1: They've done it where it's a game where they've relinquished

725
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: the lead and then put it away late and if

726
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: they score late to send it to OT. They've put

727
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: games away early in OT several times this year. So

728
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: when you're playing these high pressure games, it feels like

729
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: a in a microcosm type of way, they've already sort

730
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: of experienced this type of pressure in the scratch.

731
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Speaker 2: And I feel like the sharkshirret a point now where

732
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: they either get beat early on, like they went down

733
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: three to nothing against Nashville the other day and they

734
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: rallied to make a three to three, but then they

735
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: had some self inflicted wounds throughout the rest of the

736
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: game that caused them to lose it. But they either

737
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: get beat or early on, or they hang around long

738
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Speaker 2: enough to win, and that means either winning an overtime,

739
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: that means winning. With Layton regulation, they know how to

740
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: win games. I think that's the most impressive part about

741
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: this is that I think there's a relative expectation that

742
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: the Sharks are. They're young, they're learning because a lot

743
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: of the names that we associate it's gonna be Maclin

744
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: celebrating young Will Smith, Young Colin Graft, Igor Chernishoff, Michael Misa,

745
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: Sam Dickinson. These are the faces of the future. But

746
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 2: you also contrast this with Alex Wenberg. He's a pro,

747
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: he's been there, Barclay Goodrow pro multi Stanley Cup winner,

748
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: the fole, he's been around, Stanley Cup winner, You talk

749
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: about Ryan Waves, Yeah, Keeper Sherwood, now he's one of

750
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: these guys. Keiper Sherwood's really interesting case because he is

751
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: not an.

752
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Speaker 1: Extension year.

753
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Speaker 2: I was when I filled in with Derek when you

754
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: were out. So when that goes down, Keith for Shwoo's

755
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: taking up an interesting role with the Sharks because he

756
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: was like a depth player otherwise in his career, but

757
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: like in sales Hey, he's.

758
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Kind of like a star now due and he's playing

759
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Speaker 1: is he Is he on the second line? Yes, so

760
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: he's I mean, I thought in the entire third period.

761
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you about this too, because

762
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: this is something that I questioned it Again, I haven't

763
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: watched the I'm starting to try to understand the strategy

764
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: of how someone's been and so they've got sure one

765
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: out there and dude like he's obviously not an enforcer,

766
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: but he's sort of like a chapped ass, like pissed off?

767
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: How many? How many stoppages do we have in the

768
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: third period where he was in the middle of all

769
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: of it going down where he's like, look, if the

770
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: the young studs are going to be off the ice,

771
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring some sort of edge when I

772
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: am on the ice. And it seems like since he's

773
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Speaker 1: been here, especially in these last few games, that's been

774
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: a huge factor for them. The question I would ask is,

775
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: and this is something that would happen with Steve caurra

776
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: lot where people would go, I mean, it happens all

777
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: the time where people don't like how he's managing the

778
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: minutes or get stuff back on the floor. You gotta

779
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: get stuff back on the floor. It's always different off

780
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: of injury. At what point and I know they're changing

781
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: lines so quickly. Felt to me like maclum was off

782
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: the ice for a long time into the third period,

783
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: like maybe the first like eight or nine minutes of

784
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the third period that long. I don't on that.

785
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: I can't remember off the top of my head, but

786
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: I would have. I think I would have noticed that

787
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: if that was the case. But they got back into

788
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: that game. They're playing well in the third period. He

789
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: might have changed up his lines a little bit. But

790
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: I think that what you're seeing, though, is that other

791
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: guys are making contributions. You're so used to being locked

792
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: in on Macklan celebriny, You've seen more with Wenberg. He's

793
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: got what five goals in his last six games, and

794
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: he's got a point streaky six games going. Like you said, Keith,

795
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: for sure, woods all over the place, banging around out there.

796
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Done dude.

797
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: Eckland's been coming in with it. He's had the craziest

798
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: two plays this year. He might have the best assist

799
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: of the year.

800
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

801
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: If you saw his no look between his legs the

802
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: other day. I think that was the assist to Letty's goal.

803
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember off the top of my head.

804
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: But then he also had that incredible flying through the

805
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: air that was It's crazy that he has two of

806
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: the wildest plays this year, just both to him and

807
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: a team that has Macklin Celebrini on it. He's got

808
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: the unbelievable play of all plays.

809
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: How about the Sherwood assist when he pops it out

810
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday too, that was the game time goal. I

811
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: want to say at the start of me that was too.

812
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think we had the third goal there.

813
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: I think it was Wemburg's goal because it went Letty

814
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: and then when celebrity and then Wemburg because Wemburg then

815
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: took it up the link of the ice.

816
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: And then went that's right. He was you, yeah, that's right,

817
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: which n y.

818
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Play himself, But you want to see more of those

819
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: other guys contributing. You want to see everybody getting on it.

820
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: This funning we've talked about a lot about on the

821
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: NBC pre and post game is that who's got to

822
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: be the next leading scorer after Macklin And I think

823
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: the immediate reactions, oh, Will Smith, But it's like, no,

824
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: that means it's still that top line together getting it done.

825
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: You need Wemburger Ecklin.

826
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Speaker 2: To come up and really be the leading guy, and

827
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: I I'm wenburg is the one who's really stepped up

828
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: as of late. But it's it's so funny because we

829
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: talk so much about the stars in every sport, whether

830
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be Steph Curry, whether it is going

831
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: to be Macklin Celebriny, but it ends up being your Barbosa's,

832
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: your living Stins, You're Eklunds, these other guys who come

833
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: up with these key moments. GP two, who was talking

834
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: about him back in the day before, he's the Warriors

835
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: and then suddenly he's a defensive stud who's now playing

836
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: the pick and roll and making everything happen like caf.

837
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Speaker 1: You were jt a along Siscano Anderson bro I mean, seriously,

838
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: it takes a village, it does it does It takes

839
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: a whole like Terio slid across Home played for the Giants. Yeah,

840
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: reference all sorts of guys who lead to the success

841
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: of teams like this, and I think back it's a

842
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: good comp if you're thinking Brodie Brazil at the start

843
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: of the year said to us, because I was like,

844
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: is this the year they make the jump? Because they

845
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: were still so young and so far down last year.

846
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have been surprised if they

847
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: were out of the playoff picture right now, but like

848
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: incrementally better and instead Macklin took the jump that Steph

849
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Curry made from the last year of Mark Jackson to

850
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: his MVP season in the first year of Steve Kirk.

851
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: But it happened way earlier. It happened in a totally

852
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: unpredictable way. And I still think by the way that

853
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: Steph's MVP year was pretty unpredictable. As good as they

854
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: were the year before, he was astronomically different. Once Steve

855
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Kerr showed up. It was Steve Kerrs brilliant.

856
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, I hate a deal with

857
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: back picks, and that's how it set up so much

858
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: space for Stef Curry and Klay Thompson.

859
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: And they just bombed away, that's all they did. He's like,

860
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: they're better than I ever was. And I was damn

861
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: good at shooting. He was great. So I look at

862
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: if you're going with the brody thought, and I think

863
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: he's off this a little bit, but he said the

864
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: and I think he also brought up with he go

865
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve A's. Was there another team in there?

866
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve A's were actually riffing on that the other

867
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: day because that was the year that Cespitus was in

868
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Year one with Oakland. They started off poorly and then

869
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: towards the end of June they started getting a bunch

870
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: of walkoff wins. That was when the Bernie Leans started

871
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: and they were doing all.

872
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: The cone's that's coming on the on the final league

873
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: it's the Rangers that Angels. I'm well, they beat the

874
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Angels in the final week again, but they beat the

875
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: Rangers for the division Maybe it was at it I

876
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: can't wait, wait where was Where was Hamilton at that point?

877
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: I think he was I think he was in he

878
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: was Okay, I think he was still in twelve.

879
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's who they beat in the finals. That's

880
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: when he dropped the ball that's.

881
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Right in the Yeah, that's right. So yeah, that was

882
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: out berning phenomenal.

883
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: That was I was talking to Brodi about this the

884
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: other day. That was one of the rare games. Game five,

885
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: when they lost to Verlander in the Divisional series. It

886
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: was the first time. What it was the first time,

887
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: and that was at the end of the game, you

888
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: had the organic let's go Oakland chance. And that's one

889
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: of the coolest things I've ever been at in terms

890
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: of sports, because you everything is so ordained and predictable

891
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: at this point. Then when you get that an organic

892
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: moment from a fan base like that, easily one of

893
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: the coolest things I've been at in my sports lifetime,

894
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: just because they lost, but the fans because it was

895
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: such a magical year, which is what the Sharks have. Yeah,

896
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: the magic about them this year, it's the Macklin magic.

897
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: It's the call on Graft magic. It has that same feel.

898
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: And now you want to go ultimate magic, you can

899
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: start talking about twenty ten. That was when saw mack

900
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: brought up particles.

901
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: To the right. So I'm thinking O. Nine Giants was

902
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: the first thought I would be my hope for this year,

903
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: and part way through the X one I found they

904
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: got to eighty eight wins. Linskem wins his first sign

905
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: his first full season. He debuted in May the year before,

906
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: actually sorry, his second season, because he debuted O seven

907
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: only wins the SI again and nine that's the eighty

908
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: eight win Giants. And by the way, broke Bochi was

909
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: in a lame duck year, third year of a three

910
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: year contract. He was brought in the last year of Bonds.

911
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Lenskim comes up in O seven. So funny to think

912
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Timmy cross paths with Barry I know, as did like

913
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Brian Wilson, you know what I mean, Like it's weird.

914
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Bottom line is that season sort of shook out what

915
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the identity of the team was going to be. Buster

916
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: came up at the end in September. Bumgarner debuted in August.

917
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: I was covering the team for K and br back

918
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: in the day for the postgame show.

919
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: So, like the point I'm making here is like then

920
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: in ten, yeah, it's the magical run, but they brought

921
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: in the veterans to try to sprinkle around those young

922
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: guys until Buster was ready to go and in May.

923
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking more about the shobbery Huff burned Marlborough

924
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: Ultra lights and drink. You signed Pat Burrell part way

925
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: through the season, Right, there's your bet. You're bringing in

926
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: the veterans in that way you get to I mean,

927
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Benjaminina was here and then out you make the trades

928
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: at the deadline to bring in Hovey Lopez to help

929
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: bolster the bullpen, and the rest is history, of course,

930
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: but more to the point, until these young guys become

931
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: the focal point of the team, where Buster and Crawford

932
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: and Belt and Panic and Pablo were the faces of

933
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: the team and could carry the load themselves, you gotta

934
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: have the rest of this, this roster full of vets,

935
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: full of Ryan Reeves, so that he can protect until

936
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: the younger guys are old enough and veteran enough to

937
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: protect Ryan Reeves.

938
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: Copes has been the most incredible addition because he was

939
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: always in a villain role against San Jose and he

940
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: gets and I remember the first interview he did with

941
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: Dan Rusanowski. He's wearing the sweater and he goes, you know,

942
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 2: I look good in teel and just like the immediate

943
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: embodiment about that, because it was such the he didn't

944
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: even acknowledge the fact that he had been kind of

945
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: a heel for other teams playing against San Jose, specifically Vegas,

946
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: but he embraced it so quickly and he was like,

947
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: people don't realize how good maclin celebrity is. He's like

948
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: they're disrespecting him already. He played that card immediately, and

949
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: to watch everybody step up and have that ability to

950
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: have just the type of player who was going to

951
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: put the team on his back like only a veteran could.

952
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: That's that's the most amazing part about it. No one

953
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 2: saw that coming and the impact he had on the team. Again,

954
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: the veteran, the unsung hero, is now a sung hero

955
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: in Shark's lore about the big step the team has

956
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: taken this year, regardless of whether or not they make

957
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

958
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: Plus, dude, ice bro shout out Joe Warrick. You know

959
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: the story about his family. His grandfather was the first

960
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: black US Marshall. I did not know.

961
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: There's there's an HBO mini series about him.

962
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Believe does Tommy Lee Jones play him too? Probably not.

963
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I didn't think so. That probably another way.

964
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Look look up Boss Reeves. I'm not joking on a

965
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: sick name, dude, Boss Reeves.

966
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: That's his grandfather.

967
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: Is his grandfather, great grandfather. I'm not joking. There's an

968
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: and there's a mini series about this. And he worked

969
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: specifics Reeves. He worked specifically for a.

970
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Judge who had a nickname like the hanging judge or

971
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: something like that. There's only one way you get that. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: the hangman dude. Is it bass or boss Boss? I'm

973
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: not sure. Check out the stash on that. Marty Lorie

974
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: eats your heart out on this monch. Gotta be great

975
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: grandfather then, because there's no way. Born in eighteen threeventy

976
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Us Marshall gunfighter, farmer, scout, tracker, railroad agent, he escaped,

977
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: slav stud, ultimate stud. Yeah, and that's the lineage that's

978
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: going into Ryan Reeves, dude from Oklahoma. This is pretty bad.

979
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: It's quite How about being around in like eighteen ninety

980
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: and you're like six two.

981
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, giants, it's a giant, it's a five back then

982
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: the peach basket. Just get him ready to put him

983
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: down low post up. He's going at it.

984
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Hell yeah, Bret Deputy Marshall shot on Ryan Reeves, Revo,

985
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Adam Copeland, Ted Ramy with you from the tank. We

986
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: got plenty more to come on the Sharks. We'll talk

987
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: more about whether or not we think they're gonna end

988
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: up in the postseason. We'll take a quick break when

989
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: we come on back. Unfortunately, we gotta get into some giants. Baseball.

990
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk Giants baseball. I don't think people

991
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: like being this myf ten games in like you know,

992
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good at like it's it's ten games,

993
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: not a big deal. But I doesn't really feel like

994
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: it's ten games because it's the same dudes from last

995
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: year doing the same s or not doing the same

996
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: as from last year.

997
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: I view it as one sixteenth of the season. There's

998
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: still fifteen to sixteenths left.

999
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: That's good math, that's great, man. We'll talk about how

1000
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: poorly those could go next as a dirty work rolls

1001
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: on from the tank five forty five first pitch, Giants

1002
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: back excuse me, pregame. Giants back at it tonight for

1003
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: a six forty five first pitch, and we'll get into

1004
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the matchup for tonight. I think it's Painter against Howser. Howser.

1005
00:40:49,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Just matter, dirty work rolls on on the Sports Leader. Okay, okay, okay,

1006
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: raf Raff, just real quick, heads up. You don't have

1007
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: to hit them all every time. We could just we

1008
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: could just go like one from the tank or like

1009
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: hit the filling in for for Ramy. We good raft,

1010
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: It's all good, all right, bro, We're good we don't

1011
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: even like, you know, seven lead ins. Anyway, I think

1012
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: we got it all covered. Ramy's with me and the

1013
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Giants were a mess. Uh. That's that's how it's going.

1014
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: As we're live from the tank. So you heard some

1015
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: of the plays there, the the error on Matt Chapman

1016
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: to throw the first base to Devs. You got Tony

1017
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Viitello ejected, yesterday, you got Matt Chapman with uh, the

1018
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Giants down three, nobody out in the ninth and makes

1019
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: the first out stealing second base. Where do you want

1020
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: to go? Dealer's choice? Ted, where do you want to start?

1021
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: I guess we'll go with the failed steel attempt because

1022
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: the suddenly momentum is there, you're on base. Why do

1023
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: you make that play in that moment unless you feel

1024
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: like is there some sort of thought there that there's

1025
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: not gonna be a throw? I just it doesn't. It's

1026
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: not like that specifically his game either. It was so

1027
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: overly aggressive it caught me off guard. I thought I

1028
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: misheard because I was making dinner last night, going back

1029
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: and forth between radio and TV, I thought I misheard

1030
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: who was on base. That's how confused that.

1031
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I the only thing I could come up

1032
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: with in watching the game in that moment, And I

1033
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: don't know what Giants fans reactions were, who were like

1034
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: watching on TV after the way things went down, and

1035
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: they were, you know, by the way, when if I

1036
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: Teller get tossed, it's two to one at that point. Yeah, still,

1037
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Webb left the game with the lead and

1038
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: a ton of runs. What was I didn't hear what

1039
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: he said afterwards?

1040
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: No, why I said why he got tossed because it

1041
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: had been a problem at Oh.

1042
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: We'll get to that a little bit later on and

1043
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: on what happened, But like when he was tossed, they

1044
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: were still up at that point. When Chapman got thrown out,

1045
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: my only thought was what first I was he did

1046
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: that on his own? Yeah, nobody called for him to steal,

1047
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: Because I want to go back and look at it.

1048
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was like it was either a

1049
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: one one count or a or a two ozer count. Like,

1050
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good steal count. No,

1051
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's one one, maybe you think he's

1052
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: gonna go off speed or something. But even then your

1053
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: run doesn't matter. So the only thing I could think

1054
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: of was does he think he's gonna get like a

1055
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: defensive indifference here, like they're not gonna attempt to throw

1056
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: it down, But why would would that be the case

1057
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: they need you on. Maybe he's trying to stand out

1058
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: of a double play. Either way, it's unfathomable. Not that

1059
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: five to two games, I don't understand.

1060
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: Maybe if it had been tied, maybe they just say

1061
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: let's play it safe and maybe don't make the throw

1062
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: something like that. But in that situation, nothing about it

1063
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: made any sense to me, and he never talked about

1064
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: it after the game, so I am sure at least

1065
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: if he did, I missed it. So but yeah, that

1066
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: was such a baffling play, And it goes back to

1067
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: the points like that's why you need to have your

1068
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: manager in the game at that point like that, I

1069
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: love that Tony got fired up. I love that he

1070
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: was fighting for his guy, But that's one of those

1071
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: learning moments, like you gotta pick your spots, especially if

1072
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: the season is off to a rough start.

1073
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: This isn't the moment to a get tossed. And it's

1074
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: also in a tight.

1075
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: Game, you need to make sure that you're there to

1076
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: manage the bullpen, manage everything that's going on, and then

1077
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: you leads to the Chaman play, which again still makes

1078
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: no sense to me.

1079
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: By the way, it was a it was a one

1080
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: to one count when Chapman stole, but it was almost

1081
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: a pitch out ninety four mile an hours, like high

1082
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and outside, and he just threw down. It was against Devers,

1083
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: by the way. Devers is at the plate at that point.

1084
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: So the Vitello ejection, we'll get into that in just

1085
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: a minute. But I don't know what he was seeing,

1086
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: because when I saw the replay, I thought it's absolutely

1087
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: the right call. I mean, and Cardassio never establishes the

1088
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: running lane. Now, if you get ejected for that on

1089
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: a play between first and second or a play between

1090
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: second and third, it's much harder and more difficult from

1091
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: where Vitell is standing in the dugout to see the

1092
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: depth in the angle at which the player is running at. Also,

1093
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: running lanes are established differently in between the base paths.

1094
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: Out of the box. You're running lane is just that

1095
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: on a ground ball, you've got to be in that lane.

1096
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: That's why that's painted there in the chalk on the ground,

1097
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: so that you stay in the lane. You can't step

1098
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: on the inside. If there's a little bunt, you can

1099
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: be way outside if you want. If you're taking a

1100
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: run because the throw is gonna come in, then come in.

1101
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: You can't do that, so I I thought it was

1102
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: absolutely the right call. He gave a reason. I think

1103
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: we might have it here. I can't remember if this

1104
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: is one of the ones I lined up. I do

1105
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: want to hear from Vitello. Here it is Rafe's got

1106
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: it back at the studio. Here's Tony Vitello on the

1107
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: play that got him ejected. I didn't think he was

1108
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: just trying to fire up his guys. I thought he

1109
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: really thought he was right. And then when I saw

1110
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the replay, I was like, he's wrong. It was the

1111
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: right call. Here's what vi Tellis said.

1112
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: Dead in line with where I was standing. And the

1113
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: throw was missed arm side, which often happens. Well, you

1114
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: guys just got done, and the fans got done talking

1115
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: about for three days a throw that missed armside and

1116
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: our first baseman, you know, the ball, a big dude

1117
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: in the first basement, all or meeting at the same time.

1118
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: It's part of the game. I wish there was a

1119
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: solution that would remove it, but I just went through

1120
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: a deal where they have two bases at first base,

1121
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: which not my place to say. None of the players

1122
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: like that, but that doesn't solve the issue. Maybe eliminate

1123
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: some collisions a little bit. Don't ever want to see

1124
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: anybody get hurt. But when the ball and the first

1125
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: basement and you know, the get there at the same time,

1126
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: that's the closest we'll ever get to football now that

1127
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: you can't take out the catcher, which is fortunate that

1128
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: that's removed as well. So I didn't watch the replay,

1129
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: like I said, I saw it from a great angle.

1130
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: Umpire couldn't have been better with balls and strikes. I'm

1131
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: sure he got it exactly technically right. It's just a play.

1132
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of history for a little frustrated

1133
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: about something else that occurred in the game, and then

1134
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: we're dying to get Jo in the game. I think

1135
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: you guys are too. In my mind, we lost a

1136
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: double there, so there's a little bit of frustration.

1137
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: I was just trying to get Jo. I don't know

1138
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: what his explanation was. I had some sounds to me

1139
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: like the end of his statement was based on something

1140
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: else that happened earlier in the game kind of had

1141
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: my own things going on. Well, yeah, but I don't understand.

1142
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Like he said, he probably made the right call. I

1143
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: don't know what he was seeing or what his reasoning was,

1144
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know.

1145
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: That's why I think he's trying to fire up his

1146
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: guys and that it's not just about fighting for his guys.

1147
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: It's about trying to inject some life to try and

1148
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: make sure that a little bit of a spark is there.

1149
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: But it led to the outcome you wanted least of all.

1150
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: And now everyone's talking about how the team has only

1151
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: won three games. Their run differential is very very poor.

1152
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Twenty so they're they're the worst run differential. I'll give

1153
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: you the notes right here on the hitting three and

1154
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: seven record. It's tied for their second worst through ten

1155
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: games since moving to San Francisco. Twenty six runs total,

1156
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: or tied for third fewest ever in franchise history through

1157
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: ten games. They had twenty five and twenty nineteen and

1158
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: twenty two in nineteen twenty, you know what I mean,

1159
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: or like thirty years before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Anyway,

1160
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: like the other numbers, here are twenty six total runs

1161
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: on the season. Through ten games, they scored nine in

1162
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: a game in seven in a game, so they had

1163
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: sixteen over two games. Yeah, which means in the other

1164
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: eight they have a total of ten runs score. They've

1165
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: been terrible. They're the worst in the league in run differential.

1166
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: They have the worst record in the National League. And furthermore,

1167
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's the can't hit. They're not playing defense well,

1168
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: they don't really have a first baseman. The bullpen is

1169
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: unproven and not nearly as good in this series as

1170
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: it was in the previous two series. They don't have

1171
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: a closer. I mean, what's to believe? And I know

1172
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: we're ten in, but it's a lot of the same player.

1173
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: The only two guys in the lineup that are different

1174
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: from last year are better in a rise. Those aren't

1175
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: two like you didn't bring over Kyle Tucker and Kyle

1176
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Schwarber and say, oh man, they're doing the same stuff

1177
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: with these big bats. So what's to believe this team

1178
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: will be better than they were last year.

1179
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: That's the whole reason they brought in Vytello, though, is

1180
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: to try and get them out of the doldrums that

1181
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: they felt Bob Melvin was not able to do so,

1182
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: but that just might come back to the same point

1183
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: because it is so much of the same lineup, why

1184
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: should we believe it is going to be any different?

1185
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: And I have to give it more time. Ten games

1186
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: is way too small a sample size. I understand everybody

1187
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: who's upset right now, though, because it rhymes with last

1188
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: year so much.

1189
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: This is the same thing. It feels like a continuing.

1190
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: Right after Devers came over and they went into that

1191
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: cold slump during the summer. This was that yesterday's game

1192
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: was a game we saw over and over and over again, and.

1193
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: I think that's why people are having such a strong reaction.

1194
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: It's like, what this is?

1195
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: There is no difference here, And then when you add

1196
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: in maybe an error there by by Tello in terms

1197
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: of aalues reacting to a situation, it just ticks off

1198
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: people even more.

1199
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm with you. So where I'm at is like,

1200
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can expect from Vitello

1201
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: because this was something I struggled He was not the issue.

1202
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: It's something I struggled with last year with Melvin. To

1203
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: your point is that people go, well, so because I didn't,

1204
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't working with Melvin and people were going, well,

1205
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: what's the difference, Like you fire him? Then what managers

1206
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: don't you know? Take the swings. Managers don't have that

1207
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: huge of an impact outside of building it and what

1208
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: you do in game manager like base stealing, being aggressive, whatever,

1209
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: it's not Kyle Shanahan saying, I can scheme up differently

1210
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: against this team. I have an actual fingerprint on the game,

1211
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: which then comes back to the players making plays. Boachi

1212
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: looks great with all of his decisions when the when

1213
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: the bullpen finds their roles and he knows which guys

1214
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: to go to and when they get out, you go,

1215
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: man Bach is a whiz, and then that bullpen does that,

1216
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: I do it. You're only as good as your players perform.

1217
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: So then I look back and I go, it's only

1218
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: ten games, But what are the redeeming qualities of this team?

1219
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: What are they good at if they're at their best?

1220
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: What is their identity? And that's something I question, like,

1221
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: if we didn't have it last year, what makes you

1222
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: believe it's gonna happen in a second year? It does?

1223
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Buster look at last year and go, well, it was

1224
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: just kind of an anomaly. Well, if we played better

1225
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: defense in the outfield, we'll be a playoff team incrementally

1226
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: by three more wins. Cops, other than the hitting, pitching, bullpen, fielding,

1227
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: they're great. Do you remember we used to have this

1228
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: sound but it's probably in the system somewhere of Todd

1229
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: Munkin when he got hired by the Ravens to be

1230
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: their O coordinator, and we played this sound by because

1231
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: somebody asked them, like, how do you expect the offense? Like,

1232
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: what's the key to a good offense? He's like, well,

1233
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: we plan to pick up a first downs, we plan

1234
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: to be better on third down. We plan to have

1235
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: a high fitch see in the red zone that we're

1236
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball well, but balance that a little

1237
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: bit with the passing game. We can do all that

1238
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: scoring in the red zone. We think we'll be a

1239
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: top five offense. Like, yeah, if you do things top

1240
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: five offenses do, you'll be a top five offense. Me

1241
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: playing Madden, you brought it in a centerfielder who was

1242
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: a defensive centerfielder off of his best offensive season where

1243
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: he struck out one hundred and thirty eight times. If

1244
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: the guy you signed to be a difference maker is

1245
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Batten seven. How big of a difference maker is he?

1246
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: So Like, you know, we can talk all we want

1247
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: about Daniel Susach's not getting at bats, he's not using

1248
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: the bench AEF. None of that matters when Chapman's not hitting,

1249
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: when Devers is certainly not hitting, when jung Uli is

1250
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: the most underachieving, expensive player, maybe offensively the Giants have

1251
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: ever had to this part of his time.

1252
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: I know we got to get out, but I do

1253
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: want to point out this is why I'm not overreacting

1254
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: to Vtello and the decision making so far, because he

1255
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: has to figure out who his guys are. Yeah, and

1256
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: he has to understand what they are and how much

1257
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: of last year or even seasons prior are indicative of

1258
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: it not being applied correctly, or if there are changes

1259
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: and there are sus sacks that need to get more

1260
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: at bats per se. Yes, I think you got to

1261
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: give him time to figure out what they are. And

1262
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: right now those answers are being made abundantly clear to

1263
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: him that he's probably got to make some changes. But

1264
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: you've got to give him a little bit of time

1265
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: to figure out who these guys are.

1266
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, it's ten games, and we

1267
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: keep saying that. I don't think I'm overreacting because I'm

1268
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: talking about what's happened in the ten They don't look

1269
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: good and they don't look much different than they were

1270
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: last year. Somebody accused me of overreacting on Twitter. I

1271
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: was like, dude, they radio host. I said, they don't

1272
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: look good. Like, if you serve me a steak, can

1273
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: I take a bite? I'm like, this isn't very good.

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Speaker 1: They're like, you better finish that steak before you tell

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Speaker 1: me that's an overreact.

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Speaker 2: Send it back. I fear the send back. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: the l and getting out of there.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, do yeah, I need a Demi

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Speaker 1: glaze or some horse radish or something on this on

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Speaker 1: this giant's tough steak to get this thing palatable. So

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Speaker 1: we'll come back to this. We'll get to your thoughts

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Speaker 1: at eight away, K and br But why don't we

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Speaker 1: get back into something a little bit more positive and

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Speaker 1: exciting here down the stretch. Some Sharks hockey Max Miller

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Speaker 1: is going to join us. You hear him on NHL

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Speaker 1: and the of course a beat rider for Shark's Digest.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Max Miller, their playoff hopes,

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Speaker 1: their run, the fifteen consecutive losses to Nashville. That's all

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Speaker 1: next with Max Miller, as we are live from the Tank.

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Speaker 1: Dirty Work rolls on on the Sports Leader