Speaker 1: And we continue at two five in the afternoon on
Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City.
Speaker 2: John. Governor Gavin Newsom is in DC this week taking
Speaker 2: a whole lot of different meetings. He just posted this
Speaker 2: on social media. I had a productive meeting in DC
Speaker 2: today with the EPA Administrator Lee Zelden, discussing federal lee
Speaker 2: for wildfire recovery and tackling the pollution crisis in the
Speaker 2: Tiajuana River.
Speaker 3: Who can smell it right here?
Speaker 1: You think Lee is his legal name or do you
Speaker 1: think it's short for Leroy? Well, Gavin and Lee, we're
Speaker 1: talking the tj River in DC. Has Gavin been down
Speaker 1: there to observe it himself?
Speaker 2: I don't think there is any video of Gavin Newsom
Speaker 2: in a gas mask saying that you can smell it
Speaker 2: right here. He cannot allow that image to exist where
Speaker 2: he's down there in the full hazmat suit looking like
Speaker 2: he's at Trenobyl when he's in San Diego County in California. Well,
Speaker 2: he didn't do it, and he didn't have to do
Speaker 2: it in his campaigns, but every single candidate for governor,
Speaker 2: as a rite of passage, has to go to the
Speaker 2: Tijuana River.
Speaker 4: And you can literally see it, smell it, and feel it.
Speaker 1: But no one's had a campaign rally down there.
Speaker 2: Can you blame them?
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is
Speaker 1: telephone number?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well,
Speaker 1: now that the election is heating up, two of the
Speaker 1: top Democratic candidates running for governor are going at it
Speaker 1: with each other. Tom Steyer and Javier Bessera.
Speaker 2: Can you find a different way to describe it?
Speaker 1: I didn't say, Katie Porter, but.
Speaker 2: There's a little fight going on. When you say going
Speaker 2: at it with each other, that can mean a few
Speaker 2: different things. By the way, this is a profile piece.
Speaker 1: This is not a gotcha piece?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: All right? How about this? They're in a quarrel with
Speaker 1: one another.
Speaker 2: Perfect The Beserah people are accusing the Stire people of
Speaker 2: paying a bunch of influencers to promote their campaigns without
Speaker 2: disclosing that and the Stire people are alleging that the
Speaker 2: Besera people are doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: My guess is they're both right.
Speaker 2: For more on this, we go to ABC ten in Sacramento.
Speaker 6: Let's turn out with the race for governor New details
Speaker 6: tonight after a story that Tom Steyer's campaign is under
Speaker 6: investigation by the California Fair Political Practices Commission.
Speaker 2: The accuser, if we truly have a fair Political Practice commission,
Speaker 2: how is it fair that you could spend one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars of your own money to run
Speaker 2: for governor?
Speaker 1: He's still not going to win.
Speaker 7: They're accused of failing to properly disclose payments for campaign
Speaker 7: related social media content. Now the Styer campaign is making
Speaker 7: the same accusations against another Democratic candidate. ABC ten State
Speaker 7: Matters political reporter Jenny hud joins us now with where
Speaker 7: things stand.
Speaker 2: Jenny, I mean you got to think about this. The
Speaker 2: average age of your TikTok content creator is under thirty.
Speaker 2: Do you think anybody in California under thirty has any
Speaker 2: idea who Javierbisera is, who Tom Steyer is.
Speaker 1: Did you see the footage of Tom Steyer at one
Speaker 1: of these I guess music events where he's trying to
Speaker 1: gain popularity and he decided that he was going to
Speaker 1: dance to R and B music. Oh no, he looked
Speaker 1: like he was coming down off a heroin.
Speaker 8: Well, it's really a war of words right now, proof
Speaker 8: that we are deep into election season. But this is
Speaker 8: also about transparency for voters. Is a campaign paying for
Speaker 8: what you are seeing online?
Speaker 2: So he invited me to ask him some questions. What
Speaker 2: do you have to say to young people?
Speaker 5: I love it?
Speaker 9: So it's these social media videos at the center of debate,
Speaker 9: content by popular creator supporting or opposing candidates for governor.
Speaker 10: It is not illegal to expend money to have people
Speaker 10: promote your message both.
Speaker 2: But you need to disclose it.
Speaker 1: Okay, But here's the question. How much of an appetite
Speaker 1: is there for the audience of a wrap podcast to
Speaker 1: hear Tom Steyer talk about the Tiawana River.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's much at all, but the
Speaker 2: consultants say it is. And that's another place where they
Speaker 2: can do a big buy. And that's another place where
Speaker 2: I'm sure they get a big, fat commish.
Speaker 1: But none of this is going to result in votes.
Speaker 1: You're preaching a message to an audience that doesn't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. If they were interested in California politics,
Speaker 1: they'd be listening to different podcasts. They're interested in rap
Speaker 1: music or whatever it is that they talk about on
Speaker 1: the podcast. And then all of a sudden Tom Steyer
Speaker 1: shows up.
Speaker 2: You think the book talk crowd is going to get
Speaker 2: their head out of the sand and pay attention to politics. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. They're going to continue to read ten thousand
Speaker 2: romanzity books about fairy sleeping with dragons, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 9: Most candidates advertise online.
Speaker 10: We've see more and more social media content relating to candidates,
Speaker 10: relating to ballot measures, and that that is.
Speaker 2: This is this generation's rock the vote.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, though, the podcast world is so fragmented.
Speaker 1: Listen in my free time to podcasts about cruise ships.
Speaker 1: I'm a massive ship nerd, so I spend my free
Speaker 1: time listening to cruise ship podcasts. And I do listen
Speaker 1: to Todd Grisly too.
Speaker 2: Of course you do.
Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, I tune in to my
Speaker 1: favorite cruise ship podcast expecting to hear a review of
Speaker 1: the latest Royal Caribbean ship, and instead of hearing that,
Speaker 1: I hear some politician in a state I don't even
Speaker 1: live in. What am I going to do with.
Speaker 10: That product of frankly, a society that is hooked on
Speaker 10: and tied to social media?
Speaker 9: What is required by state law. Is payment disclosure, both
Speaker 9: by the campaign and the content creator. That's why the
Speaker 9: Styr campaign and influencer Isaiah Washington, to whom he paid
Speaker 9: ten thousand dollars are under investigation by the FPPC.
Speaker 2: I think that's Taeizon day.
Speaker 1: Oh? Is that so?
Speaker 9: Steyer says his campaig how's been transparent in disclosing payments.
Speaker 9: Washington has not responded to requests for comment.
Speaker 2: This is how this generation we are and right now,
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer puts out on social media a four page
Speaker 2: letter explaining how he works with influencers and to most
Speaker 2: of us, that was a TLDR too long, didn't read.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's gonna happen is these podcasters are
Speaker 1: all gonna turn on them because they don't pay attention
Speaker 1: to politics. They certainly don't pay attention to state politics.
Speaker 1: They don't know any of the rules. They expect that
Speaker 1: the campaigns are gonna understand the rules and let them
Speaker 1: know what they need to know. And if the campaign
Speaker 1: doesn't tell them to disclose that they're being paid and
Speaker 1: then they get in trouble for it, they're gonna feel
Speaker 1: like the campaign burned them.
Speaker 9: Stier says his campaign how's been transparent in disclosing payments.
Speaker 9: Washington has not responded to requests for comment, but those
Speaker 9: who filed the complaint also content creators argue Styr needs
Speaker 9: to ensure the influencers disclose it too.
Speaker 11: Engaging in these partnerships is not problematic that they need.
Speaker 7: To disclose for the benefit of the public to understand
Speaker 7: where the payment is coming from.
Speaker 9: Caitlin Hennessey and Beatrice Gomberg also accused numerous other creators
Speaker 9: of not disclosing payments despite posting near identical pro st
Speaker 9: Diyar content.
Speaker 2: They all, Oh, yeah, have you seen it goes around
Speaker 2: social media of all these random people who are tweeting
Speaker 2: out like the same paragraph about why they like Tom Steyer.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that campaign, if you look under the hood,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they would get in trouble all over the place.
Speaker 2: Remember when we played sound of him on a morning
Speaker 2: radio program in Los Angeles? Oh you mean when he
Speaker 2: went on Real ninety two to three on the Jay
Speaker 2: Cruz Show. How do I remember these things?
Speaker 1: And that's an FM morning show.
Speaker 2: Correct, We're a big ass crisis. He talked about his kicks,
Speaker 2: were they typically play music, yes, and they chat a
Speaker 2: little bit in between the songs so they can promote
Speaker 2: whatever big events coming up.
Speaker 1: I'm not making any allegations here, but what do you
Speaker 1: think the odds are the producer of that show would
Speaker 1: reach out to Tom Steyer to book him as a
Speaker 1: guest out of the blue. Oh.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that nefarious. I think he was
Speaker 2: going to do a big buye with iHeartRadio and as
Speaker 2: a little prebe They're like, why don't you go on
Speaker 2: the Jay Cruz Show. Yeah, I think it's I'm not
Speaker 2: alleging that anything illegal happened, but I think that's how
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer does business. I think he throws his wallet around,
Speaker 2: and when he throws his wallet around, he gets exposure.
Speaker 2: We're in a big ass crisis. Oh we heard about
Speaker 2: that one. How many votes do you think that interview
Speaker 2: got him?
Speaker 1: Zero?
Speaker 9: They also flagged this job posting, which the Styer campaign
Speaker 9: confirmed the validity of offering creators one thousand dollars a
Speaker 9: month plus bonuses depending on views to post prost diar
Speaker 9: content one to three times a day.
Speaker 2: This is a situation that we're at right now. Look,
Speaker 2: the broadcast business of radio and television when it comes
Speaker 2: to elections, is highly regulated. The internet world in social
Speaker 2: media is not. So it is very possible that whoever
Speaker 2: you're following that talks about politics what have you, are
Speaker 2: being paid directly by the candidate they're promoting.
Speaker 1: Let's address that issue here for a second. Because we
Speaker 1: get emails on this on a regular basis. The rates
Speaker 1: that the radio station can charge a political candidate for
Speaker 1: office are regulated by the government. Correct, yes, and I
Speaker 1: also believe that the radio station has limited control in
Speaker 1: terms of who they choose to sell to and who
Speaker 1: they can prevent from buying ad time. Correct.
Speaker 2: If it's a political ad and we're in the political window,
Speaker 2: we can reject an ad.
Speaker 1: Right. So people get mad at us at times if
Speaker 1: someone's buying time on the radio station that they don't like,
Speaker 1: and they go, why are you selling them time?
Speaker 2: Well, we got to make budget somehow. But the answer
Speaker 2: is we don't really have a choice. It just is
Speaker 2: what it is, because, as you said, correctly, we're in
Speaker 2: a highly regulated industry. For the podcast world, it's anything goes. However,
Speaker 2: if you're part of the audience of a particular podcast
Speaker 2: where you understand it's totally out of character to book
Speaker 2: someone like Tom Steyer, or to promote Tom Steyer. I
Speaker 2: would imagine that everyone in that audience knows what's going on.
Speaker 1: That it's paid a play.
Speaker 9: Offering creators one thousand dollars a month plus bonuses depending
Speaker 9: on views, to post pro Styer content one to three
Speaker 9: times a day.
Speaker 2: If you see anybody tweeting positively about Tom Steyer that
Speaker 2: is not from the tom HQ Twitter account, what have
Speaker 2: you? You know what's going on there? They are getting paid
Speaker 2: to do it. They don't believe it, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised if almost every campaign is doing the same
Speaker 2: damn thing.
Speaker 1: He just has more money to throw around than the
Speaker 1: rest of them.
Speaker 9: A Sorry spokesperson says creators are notified of their legal
Speaker 9: obligation to disclose payments. This part of my interview with
Speaker 9: Steyer Monday.
Speaker 2: What do you pay them for?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not we pay them for their time, but what Jane,
Speaker 4: we are completely that means that we pay them for
Speaker 4: doing work. They choose what to do.
Speaker 2: You have what they choose what to do? Even though
Speaker 2: they all post the exact same paragraph. Does he think
Speaker 2: this is a this is a good look he's a billionaire.
Speaker 2: He thinks if he just spends enough money, everything's gonna
Speaker 2: work out.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a billionaire who's out there buying his friends
Speaker 1: and buying his supporter and he's trying to appeal to
Speaker 1: the crowd that thinks it should be illegal to be
Speaker 1: a billionaire.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, he paid them too. I mean, who's to
Speaker 2: say that the voting members of the Bernie crowd at
Speaker 2: our Revolution weren't paid by Stier to nudge that endorsement.
Speaker 9: Dude, you have no way in on the content.
Speaker 4: They are independent businesses, independent small businesses. We pay them
Speaker 4: for their time. They do whatever they want to do.
Speaker 9: Tuesday, the Starr campaign filed an FPPC complaint against the
Speaker 9: Javier Bassara campaign over the same allegations. The complaint to
Speaker 9: Lodge's content creators, Jay Gonzalez and Maggie Reid were paid
Speaker 9: to post Probiserra content, but that both parties failed to
Speaker 9: disclose that the Basara.
Speaker 1: Can you know what this is. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: this is. In the last election, one of the things
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did that really made a difference was
Speaker 1: he made himself a vail as a guest to go
Speaker 1: on the Joe Rogan podcast, and he went on I
Speaker 1: think THEO Vaughn and he went on with The Undertaker,
Speaker 1: and he went on with a lot of these popular podcasts,
Speaker 1: and he just made himself available and it worked and
Speaker 1: he got young people, young men in particular, to go
Speaker 1: out and vote for him. He was able to expose
Speaker 1: himself to the social networks of all of these podcasts
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be watching Fox News or Newsmax or listening
Speaker 1: to talk radio or reading newspapers or the normal places
Speaker 1: that politicians would go, and it really produced great results
Speaker 1: for him. However, political science is a science of one
Speaker 1: time occurrences. People forget this. Before Donald Trump became a politician,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a public person who had a huge personality.
Speaker 1: He used to go on The Tonight Show. He used
Speaker 1: to go on with Letterman, he used to go on
Speaker 1: The View, he used to go on Howard Stern. He
Speaker 1: used to go on all of these shows. And he
Speaker 1: knows how to be a great guest. He knows how
Speaker 1: to bring the content that listeners respond well to. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why it worked out for him. It was
Speaker 1: those shows with those audiences, with that candidate, with that personality,
Speaker 1: and because it worked out for him, everyone's trying to
Speaker 1: find their own angle to copy him. It was Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom who decided, Okay, podcasts produced results, Let's do my
Speaker 1: own podcast with Marshawn Lynch. And then that didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and then it is okay, I'm gonna be the Democrat
Speaker 1: who can talk to Red America. Let's have Charlie kirk
Speaker 1: On and Michael Savage and the rest of them. And
Speaker 1: then that didn't work out. And now Tom Steyer, who's
Speaker 1: running for governor, is trying to just buy the affection
Speaker 1: of all of these hosts. And what these politicians and
Speaker 1: these consultants don't understand is the reason that it worked
Speaker 1: out for Trump was because it was natural. It wasn't
Speaker 1: forced or contrived. It was someone who knows how to
Speaker 1: talk talking to podcasts that had an audience that responded
Speaker 1: well to it. It's literally as simple as that.
Speaker 9: The Bassara camp says they have never paid a single
Speaker 9: creator for content, and that Gonzalez is a paid digital
Speaker 9: strategist for the campaign, and a statement Maggie Reid said
Speaker 9: in part quote.
Speaker 2: I think we didn't pay for any of this content,
Speaker 2: but of course our team is full of content creators
Speaker 2: that are getting paid by the campaign, how convenient.
Speaker 9: And a statement Maggie Reid said in part quote, I
Speaker 9: have never accepted, nor have I been offered money from
Speaker 9: Javier Bassero's campaign. Now, Hennessy and Gomberg, the two creators
Speaker 9: that filed the complaint against Steyer, are Basara supporters, though
Speaker 9: they say they have no affiliation to Bessara's campaign. And
Speaker 9: I want to REAMPERI.
Speaker 2: Who is just will nilly posting about how great Javier
Speaker 2: Bessera is or Tom Steyer is unless they are getting
Speaker 2: paid makes sense to me.
Speaker 8: And I want to reemphasize the Styr campaign is under
Speaker 8: investigation by the FPPC, but it's unclear right now if
Speaker 8: they will be investigating the Bassara campaign. Jenny Huh, ABC ten.
Speaker 2: So that's what's going on on the Democrat side. Is
Speaker 2: it possible this is also going on on the Republican side. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but what is going on is that fight is getting
Speaker 2: real ugly.
Speaker 1: It's possible, but they don't have the money that Styer has,
Speaker 1: and Bassarah only recently has been able to raise money,
Speaker 1: so he has the ability to do something like this.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna throw that kind of money around when
Speaker 1: you know that the odds of it paying off are
Speaker 1: relatively low. You have to have a ton of money
Speaker 1: at your disposal, and I just don't think the Republicans do.
Speaker 1: I think there are certain influencers who are attracted to
Speaker 1: each one of the candidates, and they're certainly going at
Speaker 1: each other's throats on x and other social media platforms,
Speaker 1: and I've taken some of that incoming fire recently, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. However, I don't think there's a paycheck
Speaker 1: that's associated with it. Maybe I'm wrong. We certainly have
Speaker 1: seen social media influencers for sale in Washington, DC at
Speaker 1: the federal level on both sides of the aisle. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bianco and Hilton are playing in
Speaker 1: that sandbox as of now. Maybe they are. Eight hundred
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Speaker 1: Don't bust the trust.
Speaker 2: Did you see the story that happened about him when
Speaker 2: you were out of town?
Speaker 1: Didn't he get into more legal trouble?
Speaker 2: Clue who was the guy running for governor before he
Speaker 2: dropped out and endorsed Swallwell, who dropped out for being
Speaker 2: an accused rapist. Klubec was apparently intimidating witnesses in his
Speaker 2: girlfriend's trial about her theft because he's been dating an
Speaker 2: Only Fans model who's been stealing from people, and apparently
Speaker 2: he was going after the people that were going to
Speaker 2: testify in the trial, intimidating them not to testify against
Speaker 2: his girlfriend, Mia Ventura, the Only Fans model who was
Speaker 2: caught stealing from other rich, old creepy guys.
Speaker 1: With that much drama, they should be on Bravo, Don't
Speaker 1: Bust the Trust.
Speaker 2: Stephen Klubec is a weird, weird dude, once again proving
Speaker 2: my theory that there's no such thing as a normal billionaire.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fun to hang out with, though,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. He might be into some things
Speaker 2: that I'm not ready for.
Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy that would go
Speaker 1: to a steakhouse and start out with the seafood tower
Speaker 1: and get one of those steaks. It that's so big
Speaker 1: it has to be carved at the table. No, well,
Speaker 1: with all that time share money. He can buy as
Speaker 1: many steaks as he wants, except he might be going
Speaker 1: to prison for a very long time because witness intimidation
Speaker 1: is a very serious charge. Yeah, you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: do that. Let's go to Chris in San Francisco. Chris, Hello, Hello, John,
Speaker 1: Hi there, Hi.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get your opinion. I was listening
Speaker 3: to Armstrong and Gety this morning, hearing on KSFO in
Speaker 3: San Francisco and Steve Hilton as a guest, and he
Speaker 3: was telling them that he was going to try to
Speaker 3: get Chad Bianco to drop out so they could coalesce
Speaker 3: around him since he's got double his rate his voters.
Speaker 3: And then I thought to myself, well, that's going to
Speaker 3: blow John's whole theory up if that happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chad Bianco is not going to be dropping out
Speaker 1: of the race, nor should he. Two strong Republican candidates
Speaker 1: who make the November runoff is the best case scenario
Speaker 1: for Republicans, and I would argue is the only scenario
Speaker 1: where a Republican ends up winning that office if you
Speaker 1: look historically at the vote chair that Republican candidates get
Speaker 1: on the November ballot in California, it fluctuates between thirty
Speaker 1: eight percent and forty one percent. That's the high water
Speaker 1: mark in the last two elections, forty one percent. Now
Speaker 1: it's possible in this election that Republicans will do better.
Speaker 1: Republicans certainly have been making gains when it comes to
Speaker 1: voter registration, and certainly, if you look at ballots that
Speaker 1: have been returned already this primary, they're doing better than
Speaker 1: they did last time around in twenty twenty two. But
Speaker 1: it's still not enough to get you over fifty percent.
Speaker 1: So if you can't get over fifty percent, you have
Speaker 1: to figure out how to win with less than fifty percent,
Speaker 1: and to my eye, the only way to make that
Speaker 1: happen is to get two Republicans on the November ballot,
Speaker 1: which means they should split the vote as close to
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty as humanly possible. Now, if you're a
Speaker 1: candidate who's running for office, you're obviously not going to
Speaker 1: tell voters vote for the other guy. You're in it
Speaker 1: to win it. You want all the votes, and I
Speaker 1: understand that. So what Steve Hilton is doing is per
Speaker 1: rational from the point of view of a candidate. That
Speaker 1: being said, if your goal is to have a Republican governor.
Speaker 1: The goal should be to get two Republicans on the
Speaker 1: November ballot and lock the Democrats off, because I think
Speaker 1: that's the only way to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I wanted to call in, because I
Speaker 3: know Steve probably listens to your show. He's been on,
Speaker 3: and I'm hoping he'll get your message and your theory
Speaker 3: and uh, and we can do that and get two
Speaker 3: Republicans on the ticket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the goal, and I believe that's the only
Speaker 1: way to fix the state. The best Democrat in the
Speaker 1: field is Matt Mahon, and he's in single digits. That's
Speaker 1: not going to happen at this point. He is not
Speaker 1: going to be the next governor of California. Voting is
Speaker 1: going on right now and he's stuck in single digits
Speaker 1: and I don't see him really moving beyond that, and
Speaker 1: if he does, it's going to be in the low
Speaker 1: low teens. So if you want a change of course
Speaker 1: in California, you got to vote for a Republican for governor.
Speaker 1: That's your only option. And there's two of them, and
Speaker 1: I don't even particularly care which one you vote for.
Speaker 1: I voted for Bianco simply because he's the second performing
Speaker 1: Republican and I want to lift him up to get
Speaker 1: him into the runoff. Now, the odds of my theory
Speaker 1: working out are relatively small. I think the Paul Mitchell
Speaker 1: model had it as high as twenty seven or twenty
Speaker 1: eight percent. Okay, fine, that's a low percentage. The odds
Speaker 1: are far greater that we will have a Republican and
Speaker 1: a Democrat on the November ballot, to the tune of
Speaker 1: seventy something percent. Okay, but at least you have a chance.
Speaker 1: If it's one Republican and one Democrat, you have less
Speaker 1: than a one percent chance of getting the desired result
Speaker 1: the way I see it, and I like to gamble.
Speaker 1: I love to play cards, I love to bet on sports.
Speaker 1: Any thing that you put in front of me that
Speaker 1: has a handle on it, I'm pulling it. I love it.
Speaker 1: All gamblers know that you don't control what card is next.
Speaker 1: You don't. If you could, they wouldn't let you play.
Speaker 1: All you can do is put yourself in position to
Speaker 1: give yourself the best chance at winning. That's all you
Speaker 1: can do. If you're playing blackjack and the dealers showing
Speaker 1: a six and you have a seventeen, you stand and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. Every time you do that, you're not.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the dealer is gonna make it eighteen, nineteen and
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one and they're gonna beat you. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you should have hit on that seventeen,
Speaker 1: because staying on that seventeen gives you the best chance
Speaker 1: at winning. And that's what you have to do. If
Speaker 1: you're playing the game, you have to put yourself in
Speaker 1: position to give yourself the best chance at winning. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you have a really bad hand of cards. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: have the sixteen and the dealer's showing a ten. Well,
Speaker 1: I hit that because even though it's likely it's not
Speaker 1: gonna give me the desired result, it's better than just
Speaker 1: standing on it and letting the dealer beat you with
Speaker 1: a twenty. Every so often they're gonna throw you at
Speaker 1: five and you're gonna win. And that's what we have
Speaker 1: to do. Is it something that is likely to produce
Speaker 1: the desired result? No, but it gives you the best
Speaker 1: chance at winning. And if you're a California Republican and
Speaker 1: you're used to losing, don't accept the fact that losing
Speaker 1: is inevitable. Do what you need to do. To put
Speaker 1: yourself in position to win if the cards break your way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think I think the Bianco in the
Speaker 3: primary and then Eve in the general is the theory.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a good idea to me. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the call, sir. Let's go to John and Santa Clara. John.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hi John, thanks for all your great California election coverage.
Speaker 5: I think that the polls are understating the voter support
Speaker 5: for Sheriff Bianco because law and order conservatives like myself
Speaker 5: are very much worried about telescammeras much more than the
Speaker 5: Dems are. Four years ago, I did participate in phone
Speaker 5: surveys and was happy to do so, but now not
Speaker 5: anymore because of especially because of AI and you know
Speaker 5: how they repeat your voice and all that. So I
Speaker 5: think that being that we're conscious about crime and whatnot,
Speaker 5: we are resting client to respond to surveys, and therefore
Speaker 5: Sheriff Bianco is being underreported.
Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, that happened to Donald Trump. You
Speaker 1: look at That's why he stood in the polls. I
Speaker 1: think in one election they had him losing Wisconsin. The
Speaker 1: New York Times pulled in by seventeen or eighteen points
Speaker 1: or something like that, and it ended up being a
Speaker 1: nail bier. And that was certainly the case in that
Speaker 1: particular poll where Trump's support was understated. Kamala Harris went
Speaker 1: into election day believing she was going to win the
Speaker 1: election because that's what her pollsters were telling her. So
Speaker 1: whatever it was that they were doing certainly undercounted Donald
Speaker 1: Trump support. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's never run statewide before. He's certainly been successful in
Speaker 1: Riverside County, but running statewide is an entirely a different proposition.
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Speaker 1: an update on the proposed CEO TEX in the City
Speaker 1: and County of San Francisco. Mister Randy Wang.
Speaker 2: It's called Prop D and Daniel Lurry says don't vote
Speaker 2: for it. For more, here's kpix in the Bay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, battle brun over a pushing the tax on San
Speaker 6: Francisco businesses with big checks going to their bosses. Welcome
Speaker 6: back on Ryan immotorlive outside of a voting center in
Speaker 6: Putrero Hill, where we've seen several people dropping off their
Speaker 6: ballots at this ballot box right behind me. The city
Speaker 6: of San Francisco is facing though a massive budget deficit,
Speaker 6: and now voters are being asked to side whether the
Speaker 6: city's largest companies should pay more or.
Speaker 2: We could, you know, cut the nonprofits that are passing
Speaker 2: out math pipes? Yeah, how much waste, fraud and abuse
Speaker 2: do you think actually exists? After we've been exposed to
Speaker 2: what's going on with Oh, I don't know that one
Speaker 2: building in the San Fernando Valley and everything in the
Speaker 2: state of Minnesota.
Speaker 6: But as supporters push Proposition D as a way to
Speaker 6: save services, new concerns of out e merging about its
Speaker 6: potential economic impact. As attack ads against the measure now
Speaker 6: ramp up. Brad Hamilton lays out what's at stake with
Speaker 6: the proposed CEO tax.
Speaker 11: Outside of San Francisco General Hospital, Jason Hagron Gonzales says
Speaker 11: he's fighting for vital work that happens inside. For him,
Speaker 11: this isn't political, it's personal.
Speaker 12: So for me, probably is an effective, focused solution where
Speaker 12: we can actually try to counteract some of these cuts
Speaker 12: and protect essential services at San Francisco, and that feels
Speaker 12: really crucial.
Speaker 11: Gonzales, an er nurse, is part of the grassroots effort
Speaker 11: supporting the so called CEO tax.
Speaker 1: Liz, lass roots effort. Yeah right, what do you think
Speaker 1: the odds are The union is putting him out there
Speaker 1: in favor of this thing because the money would be
Speaker 1: going to the union.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's exactly what happened. Here.
Speaker 11: Listed as Proposition D on the June tewond direct primary ballot,
Speaker 11: the tax would target San Francisco executives a companies making
Speaker 11: over one billion dollars and earning at least one hundred
Speaker 11: times more than their average worker salary. The group behind
Speaker 11: the Yes to Prop D push estimates that two hundred
Speaker 11: and fifty company And.
Speaker 2: By the way, they call it the overpaid CEO tax,
Speaker 2: But they're not taxing the CEO. They're taxing the business,
Speaker 2: which will then pass on the cost to you or
Speaker 2: will say screw you, I'm going to San Jose.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if they don't understand the fact that
Speaker 1: these businesses can move their headquarters.
Speaker 11: The group behind the Yes to Prop D push, estimates
Speaker 11: that two hundred and fifty companies would be impacted.
Speaker 12: If property passes. That would contribute about three hundred million
Speaker 12: a year to protect services, which would be huge. Without
Speaker 12: that money, we're looking at significant cuts that were already
Speaker 12: seeing health clinic ex closed in San Francisco.
Speaker 11: But a new report from the city's chief economist is
Speaker 11: raising red flags. Tedy Agan warning that Proposition D could
Speaker 11: cost San Francisco nearly one thousand jobs and shrink the
Speaker 11: local economy by more than two hundred million dollars a
Speaker 11: year over the next two decades.
Speaker 2: So it would shrink almost as much as they say
Speaker 2: it's going to race.
Speaker 1: Remember what Gavin Newsom said about Katie Porter in that
Speaker 1: CNN article where he said, if she were to be
Speaker 1: elected governor of California, she would chase everyone out of
Speaker 1: the state. Why is it that he thinks that because
Speaker 1: she supports policies exactly like this. Even Gavin Newsom understands
Speaker 1: that if you go down this road, what you're going
Speaker 1: to end up with are no job creators and no wealth.
Speaker 11: He also says rolling back recent business tax changes could
Speaker 11: push more companies to leave, and at a small business
Speaker 11: meet and great supervisor Matt Dorsey was shaking hands and
Speaker 11: sounding the alarm over those concerns.
Speaker 12: Businesses in a situation where an easy fix for them
Speaker 12: is just to leave San Francisco, and that's not something
Speaker 12: that's hoping in anybody, certainly nobody in San Francisco.
Speaker 11: Dorsey opposes Proposition D, warning that the tax could have
Speaker 11: unintended consequences for businesses still trying to recover.
Speaker 4: Here's why Mayor Luriy and the San Francisco Democratic Party
Speaker 4: urge you to vote no on Prop D.
Speaker 11: And now, with the June second election approaching, attack ads
Speaker 11: on both sides are flooding the airwaves as the fight
Speaker 11: over how to.
Speaker 2: At least it's a nice break from the Tom Steyer ads.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're getting a healthy dose of those two.
Speaker 11: As the fight over how to tax big business intensifies,
Speaker 11: both sides making their final push as San Franciscans will
Speaker 11: decide what they're willing to pay and what they can't
Speaker 11: afford to lose.
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's the explainer on what Prop
Speaker 2: D is on the ballots that are out right now
Speaker 2: in the city and County of San Francisco.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what voters do with that,
Speaker 1: because if that passes, my guess is the SEIU will
Speaker 1: see the wind at their back with the initiative that
Speaker 1: they want to put on the November ballot, which is
Speaker 1: a wealth confiscation tax on billionaires.
Speaker 2: This will really be the bulwark here. This will decide.
Speaker 2: This will show if there is an appetite for these
Speaker 2: taxes in the state of California, and if there is,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of them in November,
Speaker 2: and there's going to be even more of them in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Well, what motivation would you have if you're the SCIU,
Speaker 1: of pulling your initiative, because you would then have documented
Speaker 1: proof that the public is willing to sign on to
Speaker 1: this even when all of the stakeholders come out against it,
Speaker 1: which is what happened in San Francisco, led by Mayor Louri,
Speaker 1: who was elected by the people of the city in
Speaker 1: the County of San Francisco. If this passes in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: it is going to be bad news for the rest
Speaker 1: of US statewide because it's going to embolden all of
Speaker 1: the groups who want a jack taxes up and that's
Speaker 1: the last thing the state of California needs right now.