WEBVTT - Steyer and Becerra are going at it

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at two five in the afternoon on

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<v Speaker 1>the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>John. Governor Gavin Newsom is in DC this week taking

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of different meetings. He just posted this

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<v Speaker 2>on social media. I had a productive meeting in DC

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<v Speaker 2>today with the EPA Administrator Lee Zelden, discussing federal lee

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<v Speaker 2>for wildfire recovery and tackling the pollution crisis in the

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<v Speaker 2>Tiajuana River.

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<v Speaker 3>Who can smell it right here?

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<v Speaker 1>You think Lee is his legal name or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's short for Leroy? Well, Gavin and Lee, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking the tj River in DC. Has Gavin been down

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<v Speaker 1>there to observe it himself?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there is any video of Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>in a gas mask saying that you can smell it

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<v Speaker 2>right here. He cannot allow that image to exist where

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<v Speaker 2>he's down there in the full hazmat suit looking like

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<v Speaker 2>he's at Trenobyl when he's in San Diego County in California. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't do it, and he didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in his campaigns, but every single candidate for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>as a rite of passage, has to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Tijuana River.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can literally see it, smell it, and feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>But no one's had a campaign rally down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you blame them?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number?

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<v Speaker 5>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now that the election is heating up, two of the

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<v Speaker 1>top Democratic candidates running for governor are going at it

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. Tom Steyer and Javier Bessera.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you find a different way to describe it?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say, Katie Porter, but.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little fight going on. When you say going

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<v Speaker 2>at it with each other, that can mean a few

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<v Speaker 2>different things. By the way, this is a profile piece.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a gotcha piece?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? How about this? They're in a quarrel with

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<v Speaker 1>one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect The Beserah people are accusing the Stire people of

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<v Speaker 2>paying a bunch of influencers to promote their campaigns without

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<v Speaker 2>disclosing that and the Stire people are alleging that the

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<v Speaker 2>Besera people are doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is they're both right.

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<v Speaker 2>For more on this, we go to ABC ten in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's turn out with the race for governor New details

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<v Speaker 6>tonight after a story that Tom Steyer's campaign is under

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<v Speaker 6>investigation by the California Fair Political Practices Commission.

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<v Speaker 2>The accuser, if we truly have a fair Political Practice commission,

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<v Speaker 2>how is it fair that you could spend one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty million dollars of your own money to run

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<v Speaker 2>for governor?

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<v Speaker 1>He's still not going to win.

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<v Speaker 7>They're accused of failing to properly disclose payments for campaign

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<v Speaker 7>related social media content. Now the Styer campaign is making

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<v Speaker 7>the same accusations against another Democratic candidate. ABC ten State

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<v Speaker 7>Matters political reporter Jenny hud joins us now with where

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<v Speaker 7>things stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny, I mean you got to think about this. The

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<v Speaker 2>average age of your TikTok content creator is under thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think anybody in California under thirty has any

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<v Speaker 2>idea who Javierbisera is, who Tom Steyer is.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the footage of Tom Steyer at one

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<v Speaker 1>of these I guess music events where he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>gain popularity and he decided that he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>dance to R and B music. Oh no, he looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he was coming down off a heroin.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's really a war of words right now, proof

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<v Speaker 8>that we are deep into election season. But this is

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<v Speaker 8>also about transparency for voters. Is a campaign paying for

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<v Speaker 8>what you are seeing online?

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<v Speaker 2>So he invited me to ask him some questions. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to say to young people?

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<v Speaker 5>I love it?

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<v Speaker 9>So it's these social media videos at the center of debate,

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<v Speaker 9>content by popular creator supporting or opposing candidates for governor.

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<v Speaker 10>It is not illegal to expend money to have people

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<v Speaker 10>promote your message both.

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<v Speaker 2>But you need to disclose it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But here's the question. How much of an appetite

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<v Speaker 1>is there for the audience of a wrap podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>hear Tom Steyer talk about the Tiawana River.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's much at all, but the

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<v Speaker 2>consultants say it is. And that's another place where they

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<v Speaker 2>can do a big buy. And that's another place where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they get a big, fat commish.

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<v Speaker 1>But none of this is going to result in votes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're preaching a message to an audience that doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it. If they were interested in California politics,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be listening to different podcasts. They're interested in rap

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<v Speaker 1>music or whatever it is that they talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. And then all of a sudden Tom Steyer

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<v Speaker 1>shows up.

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<v Speaker 2>You think the book talk crowd is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>their head out of the sand and pay attention to politics. No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no. They're going to continue to read ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>romanzity books about fairy sleeping with dragons, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 9>Most candidates advertise online.

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<v Speaker 10>We've see more and more social media content relating to candidates,

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<v Speaker 10>relating to ballot measures, and that that is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this generation's rock the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, though, the podcast world is so fragmented.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen in my free time to podcasts about cruise ships.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a massive ship nerd, so I spend my free

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<v Speaker 1>time listening to cruise ship podcasts. And I do listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Todd Grisly too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you do.

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<v Speaker 1>If all of a sudden, I tune in to my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite cruise ship podcast expecting to hear a review of

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<v Speaker 1>the latest Royal Caribbean ship, and instead of hearing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear some politician in a state I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>live in. What am I going to do with.

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<v Speaker 10>That product of frankly, a society that is hooked on

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<v Speaker 10>and tied to social media?

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<v Speaker 9>What is required by state law. Is payment disclosure, both

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<v Speaker 9>by the campaign and the content creator. That's why the

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<v Speaker 9>Styr campaign and influencer Isaiah Washington, to whom he paid

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<v Speaker 9>ten thousand dollars are under investigation by the FPPC.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's Taeizon day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Is that so?

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<v Speaker 9>Steyer says his campaig how's been transparent in disclosing payments.

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<v Speaker 9>Washington has not responded to requests for comment.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how this generation we are and right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Steyer puts out on social media a four page

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<v Speaker 2>letter explaining how he works with influencers and to most

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<v Speaker 2>of us, that was a TLDR too long, didn't read.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what's gonna happen is these podcasters are

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna turn on them because they don't pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to politics. They certainly don't pay attention to state politics.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know any of the rules. They expect that

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<v Speaker 1>the campaigns are gonna understand the rules and let them

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<v Speaker 1>know what they need to know. And if the campaign

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't tell them to disclose that they're being paid and

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<v Speaker 1>then they get in trouble for it, they're gonna feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the campaign burned them.

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<v Speaker 9>Stier says his campaign how's been transparent in disclosing payments.

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<v Speaker 9>Washington has not responded to requests for comment, but those

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<v Speaker 9>who filed the complaint also content creators argue Styr needs

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<v Speaker 9>to ensure the influencers disclose it too.

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<v Speaker 11>Engaging in these partnerships is not problematic that they need.

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<v Speaker 7>To disclose for the benefit of the public to understand

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<v Speaker 7>where the payment is coming from.

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<v Speaker 9>Caitlin Hennessey and Beatrice Gomberg also accused numerous other creators

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<v Speaker 9>of not disclosing payments despite posting near identical pro st

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<v Speaker 9>Diyar content.

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<v Speaker 2>They all, Oh, yeah, have you seen it goes around

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<v Speaker 2>social media of all these random people who are tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>out like the same paragraph about why they like Tom Steyer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that campaign, if you look under the hood,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they would get in trouble all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when we played sound of him on a morning

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<v Speaker 2>radio program in Los Angeles? Oh you mean when he

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<v Speaker 2>went on Real ninety two to three on the Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Cruz Show. How do I remember these things?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's an FM morning show.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, We're a big ass crisis. He talked about his kicks,

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<v Speaker 2>were they typically play music, yes, and they chat a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in between the songs so they can promote

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<v Speaker 2>whatever big events coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making any allegations here, but what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the odds are the producer of that show would

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to Tom Steyer to book him as a

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<v Speaker 1>guest out of the blue. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's that nefarious. I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a big buye with iHeartRadio and as

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<v Speaker 2>a little prebe They're like, why don't you go on

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<v Speaker 2>the Jay Cruz Show. Yeah, I think it's I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>alleging that anything illegal happened, but I think that's how

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Steyer does business. I think he throws his wallet around,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he throws his wallet around, he gets exposure.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a big ass crisis. Oh we heard about

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<v Speaker 2>that one. How many votes do you think that interview

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<v Speaker 2>got him?

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<v Speaker 1>Zero?

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<v Speaker 9>They also flagged this job posting, which the Styer campaign

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<v Speaker 9>confirmed the validity of offering creators one thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 9>month plus bonuses depending on views to post prost diar

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<v Speaker 9>content one to three times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a situation that we're at right now. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcast business of radio and television when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to elections, is highly regulated. The internet world in social

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<v Speaker 2>media is not. So it is very possible that whoever

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<v Speaker 2>you're following that talks about politics what have you, are

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<v Speaker 2>being paid directly by the candidate they're promoting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's address that issue here for a second. Because we

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<v Speaker 1>get emails on this on a regular basis. The rates

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<v Speaker 1>that the radio station can charge a political candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>office are regulated by the government. Correct, yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also believe that the radio station has limited control in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of who they choose to sell to and who

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<v Speaker 1>they can prevent from buying ad time. Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a political ad and we're in the political window,

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<v Speaker 2>we can reject an ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So people get mad at us at times if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's buying time on the radio station that they don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go, why are you selling them time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got to make budget somehow. But the answer

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<v Speaker 2>is we don't really have a choice. It just is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, because, as you said, correctly, we're in

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<v Speaker 2>a highly regulated industry. For the podcast world, it's anything goes. However,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're part of the audience of a particular podcast

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<v Speaker 2>where you understand it's totally out of character to book

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<v Speaker 2>someone like Tom Steyer, or to promote Tom Steyer. I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine that everyone in that audience knows what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's paid a play.

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<v Speaker 9>Offering creators one thousand dollars a month plus bonuses depending

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<v Speaker 9>on views, to post pro Styer content one to three

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<v Speaker 9>times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>If you see anybody tweeting positively about Tom Steyer that

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<v Speaker 2>is not from the tom HQ Twitter account, what have

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<v Speaker 2>you? You know what's going on there? They are getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. They don't believe it, and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if almost every campaign is doing the same

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<v Speaker 2>damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has more money to throw around than the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them.

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<v Speaker 9>A Sorry spokesperson says creators are notified of their legal

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<v Speaker 9>obligation to disclose payments. This part of my interview with

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<v Speaker 9>Steyer Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you pay them for?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not we pay them for their time, but what Jane,

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<v Speaker 4>we are completely that means that we pay them for

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<v Speaker 4>doing work. They choose what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You have what they choose what to do? Even though

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<v Speaker 2>they all post the exact same paragraph. Does he think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a this is a good look he's a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>He thinks if he just spends enough money, everything's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's a billionaire who's out there buying his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and buying his supporter and he's trying to appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd that thinks it should be illegal to be

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<v Speaker 1>a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, he paid them too. I mean, who's to

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<v Speaker 2>say that the voting members of the Bernie crowd at

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<v Speaker 2>our Revolution weren't paid by Stier to nudge that endorsement.

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<v Speaker 9>Dude, you have no way in on the content.

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<v Speaker 4>They are independent businesses, independent small businesses. We pay them

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<v Speaker 4>for their time. They do whatever they want to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Tuesday, the Starr campaign filed an FPPC complaint against the

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<v Speaker 9>Javier Bassara campaign over the same allegations. The complaint to

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<v Speaker 9>Lodge's content creators, Jay Gonzalez and Maggie Reid were paid

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<v Speaker 9>to post Probiserra content, but that both parties failed to

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<v Speaker 9>disclose that the Basara.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you know what this is. I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>this is. In the last election, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump did that really made a difference was

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<v Speaker 1>he made himself a vail as a guest to go

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<v Speaker 1>on the Joe Rogan podcast, and he went on I

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<v Speaker 1>think THEO Vaughn and he went on with The Undertaker,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went on with a lot of these popular podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just made himself available and it worked and

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<v Speaker 1>he got young people, young men in particular, to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and vote for him. He was able to expose

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<v Speaker 1>himself to the social networks of all of these podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be watching Fox News or Newsmax or listening

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<v Speaker 1>to talk radio or reading newspapers or the normal places

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<v Speaker 1>that politicians would go, and it really produced great results

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<v Speaker 1>for him. However, political science is a science of one

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<v Speaker 1>time occurrences. People forget this. Before Donald Trump became a politician,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was a public person who had a huge personality.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to go on The Tonight Show. He used

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<v Speaker 1>to go on with Letterman, he used to go on

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<v Speaker 1>The View, he used to go on Howard Stern. He

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<v Speaker 1>used to go on all of these shows. And he

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to be a great guest. He knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the content that listeners respond well to. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why it worked out for him. It was

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<v Speaker 1>those shows with those audiences, with that candidate, with that personality,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it worked out for him, everyone's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find their own angle to copy him. It was Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom who decided, Okay, podcasts produced results, Let's do my

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<v Speaker 1>own podcast with Marshawn Lynch. And then that didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it is okay, I'm gonna be the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>who can talk to Red America. Let's have Charlie kirk

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<v Speaker 1>On and Michael Savage and the rest of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that didn't work out. And now Tom Steyer, who's

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<v Speaker 1>running for governor, is trying to just buy the affection

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<v Speaker 1>of all of these hosts. And what these politicians and

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<v Speaker 1>these consultants don't understand is the reason that it worked

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<v Speaker 1>out for Trump was because it was natural. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>forced or contrived. It was someone who knows how to

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<v Speaker 1>talk talking to podcasts that had an audience that responded

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<v Speaker 1>well to it. It's literally as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 9>The Bassara camp says they have never paid a single

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<v Speaker 9>creator for content, and that Gonzalez is a paid digital

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<v Speaker 9>strategist for the campaign, and a statement Maggie Reid said

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<v Speaker 9>in part quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we didn't pay for any of this content,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course our team is full of content creators

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<v Speaker 2>that are getting paid by the campaign, how convenient.

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<v Speaker 9>And a statement Maggie Reid said in part quote, I

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<v Speaker 9>have never accepted, nor have I been offered money from

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<v Speaker 9>Javier Bassero's campaign. Now, Hennessy and Gomberg, the two creators

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<v Speaker 9>that filed the complaint against Steyer, are Basara supporters, though

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<v Speaker 9>they say they have no affiliation to Bessara's campaign. And

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<v Speaker 9>I want to REAMPERI.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is just will nilly posting about how great Javier

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<v Speaker 2>Bessera is or Tom Steyer is unless they are getting

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<v Speaker 2>paid makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 8>And I want to reemphasize the Styr campaign is under

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<v Speaker 8>investigation by the FPPC, but it's unclear right now if

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<v Speaker 8>they will be investigating the Bassara campaign. Jenny Huh, ABC ten.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's going on on the Democrat side. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it possible this is also going on on the Republican side. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but what is going on is that fight is getting

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<v Speaker 2>real ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, but they don't have the money that Styer has,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bassarah only recently has been able to raise money,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has the ability to do something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna throw that kind of money around when

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the odds of it paying off are

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<v Speaker 1>relatively low. You have to have a ton of money

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<v Speaker 1>at your disposal, and I just don't think the Republicans do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are certain influencers who are attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>each one of the candidates, and they're certainly going at

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<v Speaker 1>each other's throats on x and other social media platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've taken some of that incoming fire recently, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. However, I don't think there's a paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>that's associated with it. Maybe I'm wrong. We certainly have

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<v Speaker 1>seen social media influencers for sale in Washington, DC at

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<v Speaker 1>the federal level on both sides of the aisle. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Bianco and Hilton are playing in

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<v Speaker 1>that sandbox as of now. Maybe they are. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Don't bust the trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the story that happened about him when

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<v Speaker 2>you were out of town?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he get into more legal trouble?

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<v Speaker 2>Clue who was the guy running for governor before he

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<v Speaker 2>dropped out and endorsed Swallwell, who dropped out for being

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<v Speaker 2>an accused rapist. Klubec was apparently intimidating witnesses in his

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend's trial about her theft because he's been dating an

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<v Speaker 2>Only Fans model who's been stealing from people, and apparently

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<v Speaker 2>he was going after the people that were going to

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<v Speaker 2>testify in the trial, intimidating them not to testify against

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<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend, Mia Ventura, the Only Fans model who was

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<v Speaker 2>caught stealing from other rich, old creepy guys.

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<v Speaker 1>With that much drama, they should be on Bravo, Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Bust the Trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Klubec is a weird, weird dude, once again proving

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<v Speaker 2>my theory that there's no such thing as a normal billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be fun to hang out with, though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. He might be into some things

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not ready for.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like the kind of guy that would go

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<v Speaker 1>to a steakhouse and start out with the seafood tower

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<v Speaker 1>and get one of those steaks. It that's so big

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be carved at the table. No, well,

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<v Speaker 1>with all that time share money. He can buy as

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<v Speaker 1>many steaks as he wants, except he might be going

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for a very long time because witness intimidation

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<v Speaker 1>is a very serious charge. Yeah, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Let's go to Chris in San Francisco. Chris, Hello, Hello, John,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there, Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to get your opinion. I was listening

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<v Speaker 3>to Armstrong and Gety this morning, hearing on KSFO in

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco and Steve Hilton as a guest, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was telling them that he was going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get Chad Bianco to drop out so they could coalesce

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<v Speaker 3>around him since he's got double his rate his voters.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I thought to myself, well, that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>blow John's whole theory up if that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chad Bianco is not going to be dropping out

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<v Speaker 1>of the race, nor should he. Two strong Republican candidates

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<v Speaker 1>who make the November runoff is the best case scenario

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<v Speaker 1>for Republicans, and I would argue is the only scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where a Republican ends up winning that office if you

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<v Speaker 1>look historically at the vote chair that Republican candidates get

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<v Speaker 1>on the November ballot in California, it fluctuates between thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent and forty one percent. That's the high water

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<v Speaker 1>mark in the last two elections, forty one percent. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible in this election that Republicans will do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans certainly have been making gains when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>voter registration, and certainly, if you look at ballots that

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<v Speaker 1>have been returned already this primary, they're doing better than

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<v Speaker 1>they did last time around in twenty twenty two. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's still not enough to get you over fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can't get over fifty percent, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to win with less than fifty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and to my eye, the only way to make that

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<v Speaker 1>happen is to get two Republicans on the November ballot,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they should split the vote as close to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty as humanly possible. Now, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>candidate who's running for office, you're obviously not going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell voters vote for the other guy. You're in it

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<v Speaker 1>to win it. You want all the votes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. So what Steve Hilton is doing is per

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<v Speaker 1>rational from the point of view of a candidate. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, if your goal is to have a Republican governor.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal should be to get two Republicans on the

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<v Speaker 1>November ballot and lock the Democrats off, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only way to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I wanted to call in, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know Steve probably listens to your show. He's been on,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm hoping he'll get your message and your theory

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, and we can do that and get two

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans on the ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the goal, and I believe that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>way to fix the state. The best Democrat in the

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<v Speaker 1>field is Matt Mahon, and he's in single digits. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to happen at this point. He is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the next governor of California. Voting is

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<v Speaker 1>going on right now and he's stuck in single digits

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see him really moving beyond that, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he does, it's going to be in the low

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<v Speaker 1>low teens. So if you want a change of course

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<v Speaker 1>in California, you got to vote for a Republican for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your only option. And there's two of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even particularly care which one you vote for.

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<v Speaker 1>I voted for Bianco simply because he's the second performing

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<v Speaker 1>Republican and I want to lift him up to get

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<v Speaker 1>him into the runoff. Now, the odds of my theory

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<v Speaker 1>working out are relatively small. I think the Paul Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>model had it as high as twenty seven or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent. Okay, fine, that's a low percentage. The odds

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<v Speaker 1>are far greater that we will have a Republican and

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat on the November ballot, to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>seventy something percent. Okay, but at least you have a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's one Republican and one Democrat, you have less

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<v Speaker 1>than a one percent chance of getting the desired result

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<v Speaker 1>the way I see it, and I like to gamble.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to play cards, I love to bet on sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Any thing that you put in front of me that

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<v Speaker 1>has a handle on it, I'm pulling it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>All gamblers know that you don't control what card is next.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't. If you could, they wouldn't let you play.

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<v Speaker 1>All you can do is put yourself in position to

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself the best chance at winning. That's all you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. If you're playing blackjack and the dealers showing

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<v Speaker 1>a six and you have a seventeen, you stand and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna win. Every time you do that, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the dealer is gonna make it eighteen, nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and twenty one and they're gonna beat you. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you should have hit on that seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>because staying on that seventeen gives you the best chance

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<v Speaker 1>at winning. And that's what you have to do. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing the game, you have to put yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>position to give yourself the best chance at winning. Sometimes

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you have a really bad hand of cards. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>have the sixteen and the dealer's showing a ten. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hit that because even though it's likely it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me the desired result, it's better than just

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<v Speaker 1>standing on it and letting the dealer beat you with

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty. Every so often they're gonna throw you at

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<v Speaker 1>five and you're gonna win. And that's what we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Is it something that is likely to produce

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<v Speaker 1>the desired result? No, but it gives you the best

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<v Speaker 1>chance at winning. And if you're a California Republican and

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<v Speaker 1>you're used to losing, don't accept the fact that losing

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<v Speaker 1>is inevitable. Do what you need to do. To put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in position to win if the cards break your way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think I think the Bianco in the

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<v Speaker 3>primary and then Eve in the general is the theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a good idea to me. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the call, sir. Let's go to John and Santa Clara. John.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Hi John, thanks for all your great California election coverage.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the polls are understating the voter support

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<v Speaker 5>for Sheriff Bianco because law and order conservatives like myself

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<v Speaker 5>are very much worried about telescammeras much more than the

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<v Speaker 5>Dems are. Four years ago, I did participate in phone

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 5>surveys and was happy to do so, but now not

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<v Speaker 5>anymore because of especially because of AI and you know

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 5>how they repeat your voice and all that. So I

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 5>think that being that we're conscious about crime and whatnot,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 5>we are resting client to respond to surveys, and therefore

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<v Speaker 5>Sheriff Bianco is being underreported.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible. I mean, that happened to Donald Trump. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at That's why he stood in the polls. I

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>think in one election they had him losing Wisconsin. The

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>New York Times pulled in by seventeen or eighteen points

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and it ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>nail bier. And that was certainly the case in that

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>particular poll where Trump's support was understated. Kamala Harris went

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<v Speaker 1>into election day believing she was going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>election because that's what her pollsters were telling her. So

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was that they were doing certainly undercounted Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump support. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never run statewide before. He's certainly been successful in

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<v Speaker 1>Riverside County, but running statewide is an entirely a different proposition.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the call, Sir, eight hundred two two

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail dot com. Here with

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<v Speaker 1>an update on the proposed CEO TEX in the City

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<v Speaker 1>and County of San Francisco. Mister Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Prop D and Daniel Lurry says don't vote

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<v Speaker 2>for it. For more, here's kpix in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, battle brun over a pushing the tax on San

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<v Speaker 6>Francisco businesses with big checks going to their bosses. Welcome

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<v Speaker 6>back on Ryan immotorlive outside of a voting center in

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<v Speaker 6>Putrero Hill, where we've seen several people dropping off their

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<v Speaker 6>ballots at this ballot box right behind me. The city

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 6>of San Francisco is facing though a massive budget deficit,

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<v Speaker 6>and now voters are being asked to side whether the

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 6>city's largest companies should pay more or.

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<v Speaker 2>We could, you know, cut the nonprofits that are passing

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<v Speaker 2>out math pipes? Yeah, how much waste, fraud and abuse

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>do you think actually exists? After we've been exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with Oh, I don't know that one

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<v Speaker 2>building in the San Fernando Valley and everything in the

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>state of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 6>But as supporters push Proposition D as a way to

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<v Speaker 6>save services, new concerns of out e merging about its

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<v Speaker 6>potential economic impact. As attack ads against the measure now

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<v Speaker 6>ramp up. Brad Hamilton lays out what's at stake with

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<v Speaker 6>the proposed CEO tax.

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<v Speaker 11>Outside of San Francisco General Hospital, Jason Hagron Gonzales says

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 11>he's fighting for vital work that happens inside. For him,

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<v Speaker 11>this isn't political, it's personal.

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<v Speaker 12>So for me, probably is an effective, focused solution where

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<v Speaker 12>we can actually try to counteract some of these cuts

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<v Speaker 12>and protect essential services at San Francisco, and that feels

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<v Speaker 12>really crucial.

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<v Speaker 11>Gonzales, an er nurse, is part of the grassroots effort

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<v Speaker 11>supporting the so called CEO tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Liz, lass roots effort. Yeah right, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the odds are The union is putting him out there

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of this thing because the money would be

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<v Speaker 1>going to the union.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's exactly what happened. Here.

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<v Speaker 11>Listed as Proposition D on the June tewond direct primary ballot,

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<v Speaker 11>the tax would target San Francisco executives a companies making

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<v Speaker 11>over one billion dollars and earning at least one hundred

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 11>times more than their average worker salary. The group behind

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<v Speaker 11>the Yes to Prop D push estimates that two hundred

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<v Speaker 11>and fifty company And.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, they call it the overpaid CEO tax,

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not taxing the CEO. They're taxing the business,

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<v Speaker 2>which will then pass on the cost to you or

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<v Speaker 2>will say screw you, I'm going to San Jose.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if they don't understand the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>these businesses can move their headquarters.

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<v Speaker 11>The group behind the Yes to Prop D push, estimates

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<v Speaker 11>that two hundred and fifty companies would be impacted.

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<v Speaker 12>If property passes. That would contribute about three hundred million

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<v Speaker 12>a year to protect services, which would be huge. Without

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<v Speaker 12>that money, we're looking at significant cuts that were already

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<v Speaker 12>seeing health clinic ex closed in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 11>But a new report from the city's chief economist is

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<v Speaker 11>raising red flags. Tedy Agan warning that Proposition D could

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<v Speaker 11>cost San Francisco nearly one thousand jobs and shrink the

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 11>local economy by more than two hundred million dollars a

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<v Speaker 11>year over the next two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>So it would shrink almost as much as they say

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to race.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember what Gavin Newsom said about Katie Porter in that

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<v Speaker 1>CNN article where he said, if she were to be

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<v Speaker 1>elected governor of California, she would chase everyone out of

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the state. Why is it that he thinks that because

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>she supports policies exactly like this. Even Gavin Newsom understands

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<v Speaker 1>that if you go down this road, what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up with are no job creators and no wealth.

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<v Speaker 11>He also says rolling back recent business tax changes could

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<v Speaker 11>push more companies to leave, and at a small business

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<v Speaker 11>meet and great supervisor Matt Dorsey was shaking hands and

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<v Speaker 11>sounding the alarm over those concerns.

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<v Speaker 12>Businesses in a situation where an easy fix for them

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<v Speaker 12>is just to leave San Francisco, and that's not something

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<v Speaker 12>that's hoping in anybody, certainly nobody in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 11>Dorsey opposes Proposition D, warning that the tax could have

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<v Speaker 11>unintended consequences for businesses still trying to recover.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's why Mayor Luriy and the San Francisco Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 4>urge you to vote no on Prop D.

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<v Speaker 11>And now, with the June second election approaching, attack ads

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<v Speaker 11>on both sides are flooding the airwaves as the fight

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<v Speaker 11>over how to.

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<v Speaker 2>At least it's a nice break from the Tom Steyer ads.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're getting a healthy dose of those two.

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<v Speaker 11>As the fight over how to tax big business intensifies,

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<v Speaker 11>both sides making their final push as San Franciscans will

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<v Speaker 11>decide what they're willing to pay and what they can't

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<v Speaker 11>afford to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go. That's the explainer on what Prop

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<v Speaker 2>D is on the ballots that are out right now

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<v Speaker 2>in the city and County of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see what voters do with that,

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<v Speaker 1>because if that passes, my guess is the SEIU will

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<v Speaker 1>see the wind at their back with the initiative that

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>they want to put on the November ballot, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a wealth confiscation tax on billionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>This will really be the bulwark here. This will decide.

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<v Speaker 2>This will show if there is an appetite for these

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<v Speaker 2>taxes in the state of California, and if there is,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of them in November,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be even more of them in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what motivation would you have if you're the SCIU,

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<v Speaker 1>of pulling your initiative, because you would then have documented

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<v Speaker 1>proof that the public is willing to sign on to

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<v Speaker 1>this even when all of the stakeholders come out against it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what happened in San Francisco, led by Mayor Louri,

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<v Speaker 1>who was elected by the people of the city in

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the County of San Francisco. If this passes in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be bad news for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of US statewide because it's going to embolden all of

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<v Speaker 1>the groups who want a jack taxes up and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing the state of California needs right now.