WEBVTT - Fact Checking The LA Mayor's Debate

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<v Speaker 1>Something's not right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime is up all over the state.

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<v Speaker 3>The homelessness in the city is out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>The economy is sick.

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<v Speaker 4>Taxes are high. Housing is expensive and businesses are leaving.

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<v Speaker 5>California needs fixing. And John Phillips is just the man

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<v Speaker 5>John Phillips and Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 2>And we continue at 105 in the afternoon on the

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<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Show. Broadcasting live today from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Randy Wangs in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>800-222-5222 is the telephone number 1-800-222-5222. Earlier this week, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a debate to see who would be the next

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Los Angeles or try to help clarify the

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<v Speaker 2>differences between the candidates, at least. Anithya Raman put out

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<v Speaker 2>her DSA agenda. Karen Bass put out her DSA light agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>and the two of them went at it on the

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<v Speaker 2>set of KNBC Channel 4. Well, now the fact-checkers are

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<v Speaker 2>taking a look at just exactly what everyone had to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to determine what is true and what

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<v Speaker 2>is fiction.

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<v Speaker 6>To get an in-depth look at the fallout from the

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<v Speaker 6>debate between the two worst possible candidates for mayor of

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<v Speaker 6>Los Angeles, here is NBC LA.

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<v Speaker 7>All right.

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<v Speaker 8>With Election Day now less than three weeks away, voters

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<v Speaker 8>in L.A. are getting a better picture of the choices

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<v Speaker 8>for mayor. The incumbent mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>Dumb and dumber.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 8>And the challenger, Nithya Raman, went head-to-head in their final

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<v Speaker 8>debate right here on NBC4. The two clashing over the Palisades, fire, policing, leadership,

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<v Speaker 8>and who is best prepared to lead the city into

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<v Speaker 8>the 2028 Olympics.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't even have time to get into it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>At one point, there was a big ol' spat over

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<v Speaker 6>the Boyle Heights explosion.

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<v Speaker 8>Our Conan Nolan joins us live in studio tonight with

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<v Speaker 8>a recap as we count down to Tuesday, November 3rd.

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<v Speaker 5>Conan.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Colleen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you were there. The target audience, the larger-than-usual group

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<v Speaker 1>of voters who are still undecided, many having voted for

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<v Speaker 1>reality show personality Spencer Pratt.

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<v Speaker 6>And neither candidate gave any of those voters any reason

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for either of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen an election before where the candidates are almost...

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<v Speaker 2>purposely not trying to appeal in any way, shape, or

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<v Speaker 2>form to the largest block of undecided voters who will

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<v Speaker 2>decide the winner of the election. It's beyond my ability

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<v Speaker 2>to comprehend.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe the reason for that is if they appeal

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<v Speaker 6>to that demographic, the base will call them a traitor

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<v Speaker 6>and say, you turned on us and voted the other candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in June, assuming they show up, that's a voting

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<v Speaker 3>block that could decide the election. A cordial greeting, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it was on. The debate starting with a somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>surprising quote cited by the Democratic Socialist.

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<v Speaker 10>Who asked on a debate stage, Ronald Reagan, actually, are

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<v Speaker 10>you better off today than you were four years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>City Councilmember Nithya Raman's campaign is focused on making it

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<v Speaker 3>a referendum on the incumbent mayor. But for Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about choice. From the start, arguing her former ally,

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<v Speaker 3>now political rival, is too inexperienced to run America's largest

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<v Speaker 3>Western city.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Karen Bass has all the experience in the world,

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<v Speaker 6>has been in government for 30 years, and look what

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<v Speaker 6>it got us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you, it wasn't an accident that Nithya

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<v Speaker 2>Raman brought up that Ronald Reagan trick from the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>What are Karen Bass's negatives right now? I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>something north of 60% of L.A.

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<v Speaker 9>Voters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's real bad.

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<v Speaker 6>It is very, very, very high. The majority of people

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<v Speaker 6>in this city are unhappy with her job performance over

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<v Speaker 6>the last four years.

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<v Speaker 11>To go with this candidate is really taking a serious risk.

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<v Speaker 3>The mayor's biggest vulnerability, the historic conflagration that was the

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<v Speaker 3>Palisades fire, which took place while she was on a

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<v Speaker 3>diplomatic mission for then President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, or a cocktail party. Depends how you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was her gift for not getting the vice presidential

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<v Speaker 2>nomination from Biden in 2020. She got to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a big party in Ghana.

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<v Speaker 11>I am so profoundly sorry that I was not in

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<v Speaker 11>my city when my city needed me.

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<v Speaker 6>She didn't even tell the fire chief where she was.

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<v Speaker 11>The day that goes by that I don't think of

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<v Speaker 11>the lives lost, the families that lost their home, are

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<v Speaker 11>the families where the home is still standing, but they're

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<v Speaker 11>not able to be in it.

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<v Speaker 10>A thousand firefighters were sent home from their shift, leaving

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<v Speaker 10>fire trucks unused. In fire stations, when the fires were raging,

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<v Speaker 10>and this mayor didn't even tell the fire chief that

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<v Speaker 10>she was leaving the country. If there is another emergency,

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<v Speaker 10>you will not have to ask, if I am mayor,

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<v Speaker 10>where our mayor is. I will be on the front lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Rahma was put on the defensive when it came to

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<v Speaker 3>that Instagram post where it appeared she called the Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles mayor and police chief Jim McDonald fascist liars. She

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<v Speaker 3>says the influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>Improperly edited the post and that she was referring to

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<v Speaker 1>President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>That this city.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody's buying that. Why don't you just lean into it?

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<v Speaker 6>As if that's okay, too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, she doesn't know the difference between people she disagrees

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<v Speaker 2>with and Mussolini.

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<v Speaker 10>He is fascist, or that this mayor is fascist, or

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<v Speaker 10>that our police chief is fascist. That's not what I

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<v Speaker 10>said at all. ICE is fascist, and I do stand

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<v Speaker 10>by that.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it made me wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an idiot, then.

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<v Speaker 11>Understood what the word fascism meant, but it also just

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<v Speaker 11>showed that you're not ready for prime time.

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<v Speaker 6>Karen Bass, nobody gets that reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Rahman says she wants to replace the police chief, whom

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<v Speaker 3>she's accused of protecting ICE agents and not the community.

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<v Speaker 3>But she would not say if that would happen before

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<v Speaker 3>the 2028 Summer Olympic Games. Will you replace the chief

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<v Speaker 3>before 2028?

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<v Speaker 10>It will depend on these other factors. It is not

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<v Speaker 10>a unilateral decision by the mayor. It takes agreement with

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<v Speaker 10>the police commission.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a unilateral decision by Bass to fire the

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<v Speaker 6>fire chief.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Shaggy said she could do it because she's a

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<v Speaker 2>girl boss.

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<v Speaker 6>She was.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 10>Even agreement with the council.

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<v Speaker 11>We are 640 days away from the largest sporting event

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<v Speaker 11>to ever take place. And if you think that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I just have to say, and it

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<v Speaker 6>has bothered me for the last four years. As someone

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<v Speaker 6>who is born and raised in the city of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 6>that has to deal with the ineffectual, ineffective, and feckless

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<v Speaker 6>government that we have that either doesn't care about the

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<v Speaker 6>real problems or is actively making them worse. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>care about the freaking Olympics. Maybe you should try to

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<v Speaker 6>improve our lives, not just when there's a sporting event.

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<v Speaker 11>You're going to find a police chief. You would send

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<v Speaker 11>the department in disarray.

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<v Speaker 1>So for Nithya Raman, it may have been a difficult spot.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's saying that she would replace the police chief

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<v Speaker 1>after the Olympics, well, that could enrage many of her

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<v Speaker 1>progressive supporters. But saying that she would replace him before

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics could hurt her at winning some of those

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<v Speaker 1>undecided voters. And those undecided voters, a lot of Pratt

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<v Speaker 1>voters out there, again, could decide the election if they

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<v Speaker 1>decide to vote.

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<v Speaker 6>Or if they decide to do what Daniel Gus is

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<v Speaker 6>doing and overvote, vote for both of them because F

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<v Speaker 6>both of these candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I took the position early on that if

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Los Angeles, I could not vote for either.

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<v Speaker 9>One of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, okay, as the campaign unfolds, maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>of them will break away as being slightly better than

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<v Speaker 2>the other. And there will be a choice that will

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<v Speaker 2>become obvious, or one of the options will be the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious candidate that's closer to me than the other. The

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<v Speaker 2>longer this campaign goes on, The more convinced I am,

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<v Speaker 2>I could not support either one of these two ladies.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Conan, thank you. Some of the candidates' statements during the

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<v Speaker 8>debate last night require a little more context. That includes

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<v Speaker 8>some of the comments made by both Mayor Bass and

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<v Speaker 8>Councilmember Rahman about their work in reducing homelessness in L.A.

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<v Speaker 6>You mean because they're both full of crap? Like the

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<v Speaker 6>streets of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 12>Huge topic.

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<v Speaker 7>NBC4' s Robert Cavazza continues our team coverage to help us

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<v Speaker 7>fact check some of those claims. Robert.

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<v Speaker 13>Kathy and Colleen, for point of reference, we are standing

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<v Speaker 13>in what we call the spin courtyard. We're just steps

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<v Speaker 13>away from where the debate took place last night on

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<v Speaker 13>our universal lot. And it was here after the debate

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<v Speaker 13>where the campaigns and their surrogates gathered with us. Now, today,

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<v Speaker 13>as you said, we've done some fact checking and we

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<v Speaker 13>focused specifically on that major issue of homelessness. Let's start

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<v Speaker 13>with Mayor Karen Bass.

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<v Speaker 10>This crisis was your number one priority when you were

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<v Speaker 10>in your campaign.

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<v Speaker 7>That's right.

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<v Speaker 8>What went wrong?

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<v Speaker 7>You have 60 seconds.

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<v Speaker 6>The winner of that debate was the Telemundo anchor. She

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<v Speaker 6>was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she came to kick ass and chew gum and

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<v Speaker 2>she was all out of gum.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure. What went wrong was a cut in the budget.

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<v Speaker 6>Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Give us more money. We're

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<v Speaker 6>done with that.

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<v Speaker 11>A cut in the budget on the state. But let

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<v Speaker 11>me just say that for the first time, we have

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<v Speaker 11>had a reduction in street homelessness. This has not happened before.

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<v Speaker 11>As I mentioned, we've had 11%.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, our buddy Jeff Vaughn, who does the news

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<v Speaker 6>updates on the top of the bottom of the hour

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<v Speaker 6>on KABC, he put out a great graphic on X

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<v Speaker 6>showing that if you look at her entire tenure, just

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<v Speaker 6>based on the numbers that were reported by the Los

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<v Speaker 6>Angeles Homeless Services Authority, From 2022 to 2023, the number

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<v Speaker 6>went up by about 15%. Then it went down about 5%.

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<v Speaker 6>Then it went down about 5%. And then it went

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<v Speaker 6>up again another 8%. So overall, from when she started

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<v Speaker 6>in 2023 to when she's now asking for a re-election

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<v Speaker 6>based on their own numbers, they are not down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I always tell people these two facts because

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<v Speaker 2>it's all you need to know. when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless problem in California. One out of four homeless

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<v Speaker 2>people in the entire nation lives in California. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you're specifically talking about the quote-unquote unhoused population, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not being politically correct with that terminology, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>people who live on the sidewalks, in the encampments, in

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<v Speaker 2>the parks, in the transportation corridors. We're not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>people who are couch surfing. We have a 50% of

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<v Speaker 2>the nations unhoused. This is a problem that we created,

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<v Speaker 2>that we are willing to put up with, that other

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<v Speaker 2>states have already figured out a solution to.

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<v Speaker 6>And another thing to think about, and somebody in the

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<v Speaker 6>chat pointing this out, and it's always worth pointing out,

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<v Speaker 6>Karen Bass herself will admit that based on our inaction,

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<v Speaker 6>five people on the streets die every single day. which

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<v Speaker 6>is about 1,800 a year. So how much of the

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<v Speaker 6>number going down was all the people that OD'd?

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<v Speaker 11>Reduction overall, it did kick up last year. In eight

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<v Speaker 11>council districts, homelessness went down, including yours. The main reason

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<v Speaker 11>homelessness went down is because our efforts with Insight Safe.

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<v Speaker 13>Mayor Bass claims that since 2023, L.A. has reduced homelessness

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<v Speaker 13>by 11 percent. Now, however, according to the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 13>Homeless Services Authority, that decrease is only 2.3 percent.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they say? Lies, damn lies and statistics.

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<v Speaker 6>So the decrease that Karen Bass claims we have is

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<v Speaker 6>a rounding error. in a very inaccurate system to begin with.

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<v Speaker 13>But keep in mind here, critics have long questioned Lassa's

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<v Speaker 13>homeless count, and Bass's claims do require further clarification. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>here is candidate Nithya Raman on homelessness. She began by

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<v Speaker 13>talking about the Inside Safe program.

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<v Speaker 10>There has been no adaptation. There has been no changes

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<v Speaker 10>to the program to make it more cost-effective, where it

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<v Speaker 10>costs $ 80, 000 to $ 100, 000 per person per year. In my district,

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<v Speaker 10>we had very different results, where we saw a nearly

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<v Speaker 10>50 percent reduction in homelessness just in the last year,

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<v Speaker 10>even as it rose citywide. And I'm very, very proud

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<v Speaker 10>of those results.

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<v Speaker 13>Council Member Rahman citing a nearly 50% decline in homelessness

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<v Speaker 13>in CD4 last night. CD4 is her council district that

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<v Speaker 13>stretches from Silver Lake all the way to Reseda. Lhasa's

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<v Speaker 13>annual count shows the decline is just about there at 49%.

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<v Speaker 13>But again, keep in mind, Lhasa's count has come under fire.

0:14:32.390 --> 0:14:37.110
<v Speaker 13>And comparisons between council districts should be put in perspective. So,

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<v Speaker 13>for example, Rahman's CD4 fell to roughly 90 unsheltered people

0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.760
<v Speaker 13>this year, while CD1, which includes MacArthur Park, has roughly

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<v Speaker 13>900 unsheltered people. What you witnessed last night, live on

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<v Speaker 13>NBC4 and Telemundo 52, the only televised debate between these

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<v Speaker 13>two candidates since the primary, and it appears it will

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<v Speaker 13>be the only one you see before the general election,

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<v Speaker 13>now less than three weeks away.

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<v Speaker 6>And at least that's something that you can look forward to,

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<v Speaker 6>is that you don't have to hear from these two again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you also have everyone's lived experience. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>live in the city of L.A. I'm there all the time, though.

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<v Speaker 2>And every time I go, it feels like the homeless

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<v Speaker 2>problem is getting worse. You see more encampments. You see

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<v Speaker 2>larger encampments. You see trash everywhere. You see graffiti everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>If the number of people living on the streets was

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<v Speaker 2>actually going down in any kind of measurable way, you

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<v Speaker 2>would notice it with your eyes, your ears, and your nose.

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<v Speaker 2>And every time I go there, I shake my head

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<v Speaker 2>and say, they still haven't been able to fix this.

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<v Speaker 6>I do live in the city of Los Angeles, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>although this week I'm in Santa Fe and I really

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to go home. I drive on the freeways

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<v Speaker 6>in the city of Los Angeles, and specifically, I get

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<v Speaker 6>off the freeway at the 10 at Robertson as you

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<v Speaker 6>cross over from LA City to Culver. And for the

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<v Speaker 6>past two months, there has been something so emblematic of

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<v Speaker 6>a city that wants to do something and that a

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<v Speaker 6>city that refuses to do something. Because right at the

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<v Speaker 6>corner of Venice and Robertson is a Del Taco. And

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<v Speaker 6>technically Culver City starts at the driveway past the Del Taco.

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<v Speaker 6>Right before that driveway, right before the city line for

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<v Speaker 6>Culver City is an encampment that is growing and growing

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<v Speaker 6>and growing. On the other side of the sidewalk You

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<v Speaker 6>don't see anything. It is completely clean. It still has

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of traffic, but it does not have the

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<v Speaker 6>trash that is accumulating and getting bigger every day. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what you get in the city of Los Angeles. When

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<v Speaker 6>I drive on to get on the 405 freeway at

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<v Speaker 6>Havenhurst in Encino, there are tents under the freeway, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's supposed to be the good part of town.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then go back to Bass's argument. the number

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<v Speaker 2>of people living on the streets is up year to year,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's trying to take a victory lap because it's

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<v Speaker 2>down in some council districts, but way up in other

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<v Speaker 2>districts as if that makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, something else that's worth pointing out is these numbers

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<v Speaker 6>get adjusted all the time. And a few years ago,

0:17:37.890 --> 0:17:42.189
<v Speaker 6>back when LA city councilman meth Bonin hadn't decided to

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<v Speaker 6>not run for reelection in He was touting that in

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<v Speaker 6>his district, which includes the West Side and Venice, saw

0:17:48.450 --> 0:17:51.770
<v Speaker 6>a 30% reduction while the rest of the city saw

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<v Speaker 6>a massive increase, and that showed that his policy of

0:17:55.410 --> 0:17:57.840
<v Speaker 6>refusing to clear encampments was the right one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was funny.

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<v Speaker 6>A few months after he decided not to run for re-election,

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<v Speaker 6>was there a correction, a revision on the numbers showing

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<v Speaker 6>that no, no, no, no, no, it went up in

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<v Speaker 6>his district. It did not go down in that district

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<v Speaker 6>until they got somebody that wanted to enforce the law

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<v Speaker 6>in Tracy Park. And even then, it's only a little

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<v Speaker 6>better than it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. When we return, or later on in the hour,

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<v Speaker 2>And after the show, you should also check out the

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<v Speaker 2>newest edition of the Accountability Podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll have a little preview of it next hour, but

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<v Speaker 6>this is part two of our voter guide with John

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<v Speaker 6>Fleischman from SoDoesItMatter.com. covering the statewide races, including insurance commissioner,

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<v Speaker 6>including the governor, and talking about the Bay Area transit tax.

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<v Speaker 6>So we go through all of it, and we want

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to watch us perform the show live

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<v Speaker 2>go to johnnydontlike.com and click that like button how are

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<v Speaker 2>we doing on the likes right now randy.

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<v Speaker 6>Well last i checked it was at 285 and then

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<v Speaker 6>we took a commercial break and now it's at 312

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<v Speaker 6>look at that we love that Every single time we

0:20:07.450 --> 0:20:09.490
<v Speaker 6>get someone to hit the like button, it just encourages

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<v Speaker 6>YouTube to recommend us to new people. New people are

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<v Speaker 6>much because we don't have a marketing department.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the month, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be live in the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 6>I am so excited for this. On Friday, October 30th,

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<v Speaker 6>We're doing our first live broadcast in the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to be at Johnny Foley's in Union Square

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<v Speaker 6>in San Francisco. Easily accessible by BART and Muni. You

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<v Speaker 6>train there. You can take a Waymo, which covers most

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<v Speaker 6>of the Bay now. We want to see you there

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<v Speaker 6>from noon to three. Have a drink, maybe have some lunch.

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<v Speaker 6>And we'll be there with our friend Susan Shelley from

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<v Speaker 6>the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association. talking about Proposition 43, which,

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<v Speaker 6>by the way, if you go to yeson43. com, they will

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<v Speaker 6>mail you a free yard sign. We need everybody listening

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<v Speaker 6>to spread the word about Prop 43 so we can

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<v Speaker 6>get it over the finish line. A yes on 43

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<v Speaker 6>means it's harder to raise your taxes. It's as simple

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<v Speaker 6>as that, and a message we can all get behind.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be spreading that message to the Bay Area. Friday,

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<v Speaker 6>October 30th at Johnny Foley's in Union Square in San

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<v Speaker 6>Francisco on Friday, October 30th. Get to San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 6>hang out with us. It's going to be a blast.

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<v Speaker 2>And on election day, we're going to be doing two shows.

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<v Speaker 6>We're here for the regular show on Tuesday, November 3rd

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<v Speaker 6>from noon to three. But at seven o'clock, we come

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<v Speaker 6>back live and statewide for an election results special. The

0:21:51.910 --> 0:21:57.530
<v Speaker 6>polls closed at eight o'clock in California. We'll be on KABC, KSFO,

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<v Speaker 6>and the big KMJ in Fresno from 7 to 9 p.m.

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<v Speaker 6>going over those election results and some of the nationwide races.

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<v Speaker 6>And we'll be doing it on YouTube at johnnydontlike.com from

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<v Speaker 6>7 till at least 10 p.m. So we'll have a

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<v Speaker 6>whole exclusive hour just for the video. So watch us

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<v Speaker 6>count the votes, local races, statewide, and some of the

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<v Speaker 6>national ones as well. for the 2026 midterms on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 6>November 3rd at 7 p.m. Pacific at johnnydontlike.com. I had

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<v Speaker 6>a listener message us from the East Coast and said,

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<v Speaker 6>what time is the show that you're going to do

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<v Speaker 6>on election night? And they said, 7 o'clock Pacific.

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<v Speaker 9>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went through the fact check of what the

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<v Speaker 2>candidates who are running for mayor of Los Angeles had

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<v Speaker 2>to say about homelessness. Now let's do it for public safety.

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<v Speaker 6>All right. I'm going to give you a choice here, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the rap that I have on the rundown, it

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<v Speaker 6>says LAPD and LAFD, but they really only went into

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<v Speaker 6>stuff about LAPD. So we could play that. But if

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<v Speaker 6>you're really more interested in what's going on with the fires,

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<v Speaker 6>what we could do is play that portion of the

0:23:04.690 --> 0:23:06.730
<v Speaker 6>debate and you and I will fact check it. What

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<v Speaker 6>would you like to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start out with policing because that's a big, big,

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<v Speaker 2>big issue right now in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's do that. I am going to share the tab

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<v Speaker 6>of today's rundown at randywangradio.substack.com. We're going to go over

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<v Speaker 6>here to the fact-checking the LAPD story from NBC4. And

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<v Speaker 6>without further ado, here is NBC in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 7>Candidates for L.A. Mayor are back on the campaign trail

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<v Speaker 7>after their final debate on NBC4 and Telemundo 52. Mayor

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<v Speaker 7>Karen Bass and Councilmember Nithya Raman made several statements about

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<v Speaker 7>the LAPD last night that we want to revisit. We

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<v Speaker 7>asked our investigative reporter, Eric Leonard, to provide more context

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<v Speaker 7>to that conversation. He joins us now with more. Eric,

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<v Speaker 7>that was one of the more contentious topics.

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<v Speaker 12>It certainly was.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time I see Eric Leonard, I think two things. One,

0:23:55.890 --> 0:23:59.500
<v Speaker 6>he is a fantastic investigative reporter. And two, he was

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 6>so smart to leave KFI for NBC4 because they would

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<v Speaker 6>have laid him off like 10 times already.

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<v Speaker 12>Both Mayor Karen Bass and Councilmember Nithya Raman addressed a

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<v Speaker 12>number of these LAPD issues. We're going to take a

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<v Speaker 12>look at a couple of them. Let's go in order. First,

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<v Speaker 12>on immigration. The LAPD has long banned officers from assisting

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<v Speaker 12>with any federal enforcement, but Nithya Raman said twice during

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<v Speaker 12>the debate she was concerned about reports that license plate

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<v Speaker 12>data collected by Flock and other LAPD cameras was being

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<v Speaker 12>shared with ICE.

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<v Speaker 10>LAPD has been reportedly sharing data with ICE. This city

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<v Speaker 10>used to be the gold standard in terms of non-cooperation

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<v Speaker 10>with immigration enforcement.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, that's where she referenced that Daryl Gates

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<v Speaker 6>was the gold standard and people on the far left

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<v Speaker 6>are torching her for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Daryl Gates stood for public safety and her

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<v Speaker 2>crowd doesn't want that.

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<v Speaker 10>Seeing that databases have been searched by LAPD giving license

0:24:58.650 --> 0:25:03.690
<v Speaker 10>information to ICE that's been reported by multiple publications.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine this. Imagine how far to the left the city

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<v Speaker 2>is to brag about the fact that you're not cooperating

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<v Speaker 2>with the federal government to deal with people who have

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<v Speaker 2>broken the law.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what we do in Los Angeles and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of major cities in California.

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<v Speaker 12>What she's referring to there is this June 2025 report

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<v Speaker 12>from the nonprofit news outlet CalMatters that reported on a

0:25:30.950 --> 0:25:33.850
<v Speaker 12>public record search of data, but this was in Northern California.

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<v Speaker 12>Since then, the LAPD's Office of Inspector General, which is

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<v Speaker 12>an independent investigative arm of the police commissioners, did its

0:25:40.890 --> 0:25:43.550
<v Speaker 12>own investigation of this. It had direct access to all

0:25:43.570 --> 0:25:46.170
<v Speaker 12>of the LAPD's search logs, And it wrote in July

0:25:46.190 --> 0:25:49.020
<v Speaker 12>of this year, it could find no instances of LAPD

0:25:49.100 --> 0:25:52.580
<v Speaker 12>officers using the terms immigration or ICE to justify searches

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<v Speaker 12>prior to July 2025.

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<v Speaker 6>So Nithya just straight up made that one up.

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<v Speaker 9>Even so.

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<v Speaker 12>The inspector general recommended that the LAPD stop using flock

0:26:04.150 --> 0:26:07.220
<v Speaker 12>because of concerns about data sharing. Mayor Bass was asked

0:26:07.300 --> 0:26:11.659
<v Speaker 12>about that. She said she actually wants to stop the

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.820
<v Speaker 12>contract with flock completely, but continue using license plate readers elsewhere.

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.070
<v Speaker 6>Which is a really funny thing because that's what flock is.

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<v Speaker 6>But the brand of flock cameras has become so toxic

0:26:23.930 --> 0:26:27.330
<v Speaker 6>where politicians are realizing that it's making them vulnerable because

0:26:27.350 --> 0:26:30.290
<v Speaker 6>of all kinds of different issues. whether it's people concerned

0:26:30.330 --> 0:26:33.110
<v Speaker 6>about the immigration aspect or people that just don't like

0:26:33.150 --> 0:26:37.010
<v Speaker 6>the mass surveillance, that some politicians like Karen Bass, because

0:26:37.050 --> 0:26:40.030
<v Speaker 6>they know the police unions want the technology, are saying, well,

0:26:40.350 --> 0:26:43.020
<v Speaker 6>what if we cancel our flock contracts and we go

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 6>with the exact same technology with a company that nobody knows?

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to have Kleenex. We're going to have

0:26:49.180 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 2>tissue paper.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 12>Mayor Bass was also asked about the major increase in

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<v Speaker 12>the number of LAPD shootings last year.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, first of all, the Los Angeles Police Department I

0:27:02.170 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 11>know has changed how they compile the data. They absolutely

0:27:06.670 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 11>need to release the data to the community. I have

0:27:11.020 --> 0:27:14.300
<v Speaker 11>been very, very worried about officer-involved shootings.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.780
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and this is because there has not been a

0:27:16.820 --> 0:27:20.420
<v Speaker 12>public release of an annual report cataloging those uses of force.

0:27:20.740 --> 0:27:22.859
<v Speaker 12>What the mayor appears to be referring to there is

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 12>a changeover that happened two or three years ago now.

0:27:25.460 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 12>to a national data collection standard for crime data. It's

0:27:28.380 --> 0:27:32.030
<v Speaker 12>called NIBRS. It provides much more detailed statistics to the FBI,

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.550
<v Speaker 12>and it also interrupted our access and the public's access

0:27:35.590 --> 0:27:37.770
<v Speaker 12>to local comprehensive crime data.

0:27:37.990 --> 0:27:40.010
<v Speaker 6>And one of the reasons Karen Best doesn't want that

0:27:40.050 --> 0:27:43.770
<v Speaker 6>data out there is because a lot of these situations

0:27:43.869 --> 0:27:48.169
<v Speaker 6>where there is an officer-involved shooting are because we willfully

0:27:48.290 --> 0:27:51.810
<v Speaker 6>allow completely insane people to suffer on the streets.

0:27:52.310 --> 0:27:52.790
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it is.

0:27:52.790 --> 0:27:54.750
<v Speaker 6>And when they get all crazy... and they hold a

0:27:54.810 --> 0:27:57.710
<v Speaker 6>knife and they start attacking people, what are the police

0:27:57.750 --> 0:28:00.550
<v Speaker 6>supposed to do? The simple answer for that would be

0:28:00.850 --> 0:28:03.380
<v Speaker 6>that you're not allowed to be on the street. But,

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 6>of course, we're not going to do that.

0:28:05.180 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, in the world of the left-wing lunatics, what they

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.980
<v Speaker 2>want the cops to do is get stabbed. And the

0:28:11.020 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>cop gets stabbed, and then we provide medical treatment to

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.310
<v Speaker 2>the cop, and the crazy person gets arrested after they

0:28:17.350 --> 0:28:20.750
<v Speaker 2>stab the cop. And that's just not going to happen.

0:28:21.450 --> 0:28:24.310
<v Speaker 2>If you have a crazy person with a deadly weapon

0:28:24.470 --> 0:28:27.250
<v Speaker 2>who's not doing what they're supposed to do and they

0:28:27.290 --> 0:28:29.929
<v Speaker 2>are a threat to the health and welfare of the

0:28:29.970 --> 0:28:33.540
<v Speaker 2>police officer or someone else, they are going to get shot.

0:28:34.100 --> 0:28:36.939
<v Speaker 2>But the problem in that scenario is not the cop,

0:28:37.100 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not the training, it's the city for allowing the

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>crazy person to be on the street in the first place.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.170
<v Speaker 6>And Bass and Rahman are both campaigning on the platform

0:28:47.470 --> 0:28:50.140
<v Speaker 6>of Before you send out the cop, you send out

0:28:50.460 --> 0:28:55.460
<v Speaker 6>an unarmed crisis responder, and when they get stabbed, then

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:00.730
<v Speaker 6>they'll call the police. So there's no real difference between

0:29:00.750 --> 0:29:03.150
<v Speaker 6>these two candidates. I don't know why anybody thinks there is.

0:29:03.830 --> 0:29:05.990
<v Speaker 2>I love that they're willing to use the social workers

0:29:06.050 --> 0:29:07.170
<v Speaker 2>as crash test dummies.

0:29:07.890 --> 0:29:09.890
<v Speaker 6>Well, and what's funny about all of that is we

0:29:09.930 --> 0:29:12.410
<v Speaker 6>play this drop all the time, but it is emblematic

0:29:12.670 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 6>of sometimes, and I'm starting to think this way, A

0:29:16.180 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 6>city needs to hit rock bottom before things change. And

0:29:20.060 --> 0:29:24.900
<v Speaker 6>you know what? In 2021 and 2022, San Francisco did

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.790
<v Speaker 6>hit rock bottom because London Breed, before she got right,

0:29:29.090 --> 0:29:30.790
<v Speaker 6>was in the wrong on everything.

0:29:30.890 --> 0:29:33.370
<v Speaker 11>People have been stabbed in Earthen Alchemy.

0:29:33.390 --> 0:29:34.930
<v Speaker 9>They've been shot. They've been attacked.

0:29:35.170 --> 0:29:38.670
<v Speaker 10>And they still show up every single day as an

0:29:38.730 --> 0:29:39.930
<v Speaker 10>alternative to politicians.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:41.780
<v Speaker 9>For this community.

0:29:41.980 --> 0:29:45.570
<v Speaker 6>London Breed defunded the police. London Breed put in ambassadors.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.190
<v Speaker 6>London Breed was putting up safe injection sites. Then a

0:29:49.210 --> 0:29:52.910
<v Speaker 6>political earthquake happened in San Francisco when Chesa Boudin, the

0:29:52.950 --> 0:29:56.730
<v Speaker 6>successor to George Gascon, got recalled. The Crooked School Board

0:29:56.790 --> 0:30:00.550
<v Speaker 6>got recalled. London Breed completely changed her tune, and that's

0:30:00.570 --> 0:30:02.330
<v Speaker 6>when she started saying stuff like this.

0:30:02.410 --> 0:30:05.630
<v Speaker 10>And less tolerant of all the bullshit that has destroyed

0:30:05.690 --> 0:30:06.190
<v Speaker 10>our city.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately for her, it was way too little, way too late.

0:30:09.540 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 6>But what happened in the next election? They voted for

0:30:12.820 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 6>somebody who said, you know what? We're going to start

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.150
<v Speaker 6>enforcing the law. It's as simple as that.

0:30:21.230 --> 0:30:21.470
<v Speaker 9>L.A.

0:30:21.570 --> 0:30:24.140
<v Speaker 6>Might need to get worse before it gets better. So

0:30:24.180 --> 0:30:25.580
<v Speaker 6>maybe I should vote for Nithya.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.510
<v Speaker 2>Well, with the option of those two, it is going

0:30:28.530 --> 0:30:29.090
<v Speaker 2>to get worse.

0:30:30.270 --> 0:30:33.350
<v Speaker 12>That hasn't been fully restored, but the LAPD has very

0:30:33.390 --> 0:30:36.930
<v Speaker 12>detailed internal records separately on every single police shooting and

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 12>other serious uses of force, so the data is there.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.900
<v Speaker 2>And readily available.

0:30:42.460 --> 0:30:45.660
<v Speaker 12>Lastly, Councilwoman Rahman made some different statements about whether she

0:30:45.700 --> 0:30:47.870
<v Speaker 12>would or wouldn't remove the chief of police if she

0:30:47.910 --> 0:30:48.450
<v Speaker 12>were elected.

0:30:49.790 --> 0:30:52.050
<v Speaker 10>It is not a unilateral decision by the mayor. It

0:30:52.090 --> 0:30:56.070
<v Speaker 10>takes agreement with the police commission, even agreement with the council.

0:30:56.510 --> 0:30:59.060
<v Speaker 10>It's not something that I can immediately set a timeline on,

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 10>but I do plan to do it and I will

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:01.540
<v Speaker 10>work towards it.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:01.860
<v Speaker 7>Hold on.

0:31:02.060 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 6>Why is she so mealy mouth with some of these things?

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 6>Just lean into it. If you truly think that the

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 6>DSA is going to get you across the finish line,

0:31:10.140 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 6>then just straight up say, I'm going to fire that fascist.

0:31:13.180 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, because now that the polling indicates that it is

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.860
<v Speaker 2>highly likely that she's going to be the next mayor

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:23.090
<v Speaker 2>of L.A., People like Arnold Schwarzenegger are now cozying up

0:31:23.130 --> 0:31:27.310
<v Speaker 2>to her. Her coalition is getting bigger and broader, and

0:31:27.350 --> 0:31:30.010
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that some of those people have her ear.

0:31:30.030 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 6>Did you see that yesterday Arnold and Gavin shared the

0:31:34.340 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 6>stage at a California economic forum thanking each other for

0:31:37.780 --> 0:31:39.500
<v Speaker 6>their leadership on cap and trade?

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>What an a-hole he's turned out to be.

0:31:42.180 --> 0:31:46.300
<v Speaker 6>And I should have grabbed the clip, but at the

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.150
<v Speaker 6>end he said, I'm going to terminate the oil companies.

0:31:53.330 --> 0:31:57.590
<v Speaker 10>I will work towards it, keeping the safety of Angelenos paramount.

0:31:58.390 --> 0:31:58.590
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:31:58.630 --> 0:32:01.270
<v Speaker 12>So she's talking there about the authority of the mayor

0:32:01.310 --> 0:32:02.650
<v Speaker 12>to remove a department head.

0:32:02.730 --> 0:32:03.230
<v Speaker 9>And the L.A.

0:32:03.260 --> 0:32:06.380
<v Speaker 12>City charter spells out exactly how this works for the

0:32:06.420 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 12>police department. The board of police commissioners can vote independently

0:32:10.020 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 12>to remove the chief. But those commissioners are appointed by

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.390
<v Speaker 12>the mayor and they generally carry out the mayor's intentions

0:32:16.490 --> 0:32:18.810
<v Speaker 12>or they, too, can be replaced independently. If the police

0:32:18.850 --> 0:32:21.630
<v Speaker 12>commission decides to remove the chief, the city council or

0:32:21.670 --> 0:32:25.810
<v Speaker 12>the mayor can then intervene to overturn that decision. So essentially,

0:32:25.850 --> 0:32:30.540
<v Speaker 12>both the mayor and the city council have almost direct authority.

0:32:30.820 --> 0:32:34.660
<v Speaker 12>The police commission has authority. It is a possibility, Annabelle,

0:32:34.700 --> 0:32:37.780
<v Speaker 12>that if the mayor, if Nithya Raman were to become mayor,

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.540
<v Speaker 12>she could exercise that authority. But it's still a little

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.850
<v Speaker 12>bit uncertain from what they said last night, what their

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:43.770
<v Speaker 12>intentions are.

0:32:43.970 --> 0:32:44.489
<v Speaker 9>Back over to you.

0:32:44.670 --> 0:32:47.170
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Eric Leonard clarifying those claims for us. Thank you

0:32:47.190 --> 0:32:47.650
<v Speaker 7>so much for that.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 6>And of course, we know when it came to the

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 6>fire chief, Karen Bass single-handedly fired Kristen Crowley because she

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 6>made her look bad on Fox 11 when she admitted

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.580
<v Speaker 6>that the fire budget was cut. And then Kristen Crowley

0:33:00.620 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 6>did have an opportunity to appeal that to the city council.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.900
<v Speaker 6>And the chicken-ass city council, can you dump that, Josh?

0:33:08.460 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 6>The city council said that we don't care. We're not

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:14.140
<v Speaker 6>going to appeal this.

0:33:19.090 --> 0:33:19.910
<v Speaker 2>Bad Randy.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:31.970
<v Speaker 6>Where's the swear jar? I'm not coming home. I'm not

0:33:32.030 --> 0:33:34.190
<v Speaker 6>coming home. I've had enough of this city.

0:33:34.350 --> 0:33:36.350
<v Speaker 7>I'm done. He did.

0:33:36.490 --> 0:33:36.990
<v Speaker 2>He dumped it.

0:33:38.060 --> 0:33:41.890
<v Speaker 7>And for more from last night's debate, head to our website, NBCLA.com,

0:33:41.970 --> 0:33:44.370
<v Speaker 7>right now on our front page. You can find an

0:33:44.470 --> 0:33:48.170
<v Speaker 7>article where we've fact-checked the candidates' claims. We also have

0:33:48.190 --> 0:33:51.350
<v Speaker 7>the full debate posted on our NBCLA YouTube channel.

0:33:51.670 --> 0:33:54.890
<v Speaker 6>And if you haven't watched the whole debate, don't. You're

0:33:54.930 --> 0:33:56.910
<v Speaker 6>not going to learn anything. It's not going to push

0:33:56.950 --> 0:33:59.820
<v Speaker 6>you to one side or the other. They are both awful.

0:34:00.420 --> 0:34:02.540
<v Speaker 2>If you want to watch us perform the show live,

0:34:02.580 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>go to johnnydontlike.com, and occasionally you can see Randy lose it.

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>during a live read.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 6>So here's the deal here's one of the reasons that

0:34:12.860 --> 0:34:16.550
<v Speaker 6>I can incentivize you to check out the YouTube show

0:34:16.750 --> 0:34:19.450
<v Speaker 6>over the radio if you were listening to us on

0:34:19.550 --> 0:34:25.469
<v Speaker 6>KABC or KSFO or the iHeartRadio app you might have

0:34:25.550 --> 0:34:27.790
<v Speaker 6>heard that it all of a sudden went from me

0:34:27.850 --> 0:34:30.630
<v Speaker 6>saying one thing to me saying another thing because we

0:34:30.670 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 6>had to dump when I accidentally called the city council

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.330
<v Speaker 6>what they really should be called If you go to

0:34:37.390 --> 0:34:41.569
<v Speaker 6>our YouTube channel at johnnydontlike.com, either right now you can

0:34:41.630 --> 0:34:44.970
<v Speaker 6>rewind or after the show, go about an hour and

0:34:44.969 --> 0:34:51.180
<v Speaker 6>45 minutes in, you can see that moment. Because we are,

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 6>even though we are governed by the FCC on the radio,

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 6>the YouTube feed is relatively uncensored. So if you would

0:34:59.060 --> 0:35:03.210
<v Speaker 6>like to see that live moment that I am very

0:35:03.270 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 6>glad that We have a very upstanding board up, and Josh,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 6>who immediately dumped it, so we stay out of trouble.

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.890
<v Speaker 6>But you can see that moment at johnnydontlike.com.

0:35:16.390 --> 0:35:22.730
<v Speaker 2>Enrollment at Oakland Unified School District schools is in free fall.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.730
<v Speaker 6>Enrollment is down in Oakland. I wonder why.

0:35:27.870 --> 0:35:29.330
<v Speaker 2>I said, hell no, baby boy.

0:35:29.570 --> 0:35:31.549
<v Speaker 6>Let me get up on out of here. For more

0:35:31.610 --> 0:35:35.130
<v Speaker 6>on the enrollment decline at OUSD, who is facing a

0:35:35.230 --> 0:35:38.140
<v Speaker 6>massive budget deficit. And even though they just got out

0:35:38.180 --> 0:35:41.979
<v Speaker 6>of state receivership, might go back into state receivership. Here

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 6>is Kronfor.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.500
<v Speaker 13>The Oakland Unified School District is facing another shortfall this time.

0:35:48.100 --> 0:35:50.180
<v Speaker 12>It is the number of students enrolled there.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>The district has missed its enrollment projection by almost 400 students.

0:35:54.540 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 5>And as Crown Force Dan Kerman reports, that means.

0:35:56.660 --> 0:35:59.299
<v Speaker 6>I wonder how many parents lie on their address and

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.890
<v Speaker 6>say they live in Piedmont. Probably a ton.

0:36:04.530 --> 0:36:05.850
<v Speaker 2>Less funding for the district.

0:36:06.870 --> 0:36:09.790
<v Speaker 4>For years, the Oakland Unified School District has been spending

0:36:09.830 --> 0:36:12.390
<v Speaker 4>more money than it takes in. The school board has

0:36:12.450 --> 0:36:15.609
<v Speaker 4>approved $ 30 million in cuts for the current school year,

0:36:16.030 --> 0:36:18.219
<v Speaker 4>but many of those cuts have yet to be implemented.

0:36:18.660 --> 0:36:21.299
<v Speaker 4>And now more bad news for the district's pocketbook.

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, and usually what happens is cuts are proposed and

0:36:24.940 --> 0:36:26.779
<v Speaker 6>then they say, no, no, no, we'll deal with that

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.500
<v Speaker 6>next year. Well, the checks are coming due.

0:36:31.450 --> 0:36:36.650
<v Speaker 9>OUSD has missed our enrollment projections by almost 400 students.

0:36:37.030 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 4>The nearly 400 student shortfall is addressed in this week's

0:36:40.660 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 4>superintendent's report.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 9>400 students at roughly $ 25, 000 per student is a $ 10

0:36:47.340 --> 0:36:48.460
<v Speaker 9>million shortfall.

0:36:50.219 --> 0:36:52.780
<v Speaker 6>Hey, he's the one person at Oakland that can do math.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.859
<v Speaker 2>They should have him teaching at the high school level.

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<v Speaker 4>School board member Mike Hutchinson says a shortfall like this

0:37:01.020 --> 0:37:03.650
<v Speaker 4>is never good, but when it's added to $ 30 million

0:37:04.090 --> 0:37:06.589
<v Speaker 4>in cuts that also have to be made, it makes

0:37:06.650 --> 0:37:08.050
<v Speaker 4>a bad situation worse.

0:37:08.590 --> 0:37:11.630
<v Speaker 9>Each day that goes by, it becomes more difficult, and

0:37:11.670 --> 0:37:15.370
<v Speaker 9>since we're still overspending, the hole actually gets deeper.

0:37:15.570 --> 0:37:18.550
<v Speaker 4>Crown IV reached out to school board president Jennifer Brohard

0:37:18.570 --> 0:37:21.830
<v Speaker 4>for comment, but did not hear back. But Hutchinson is

0:37:21.870 --> 0:37:24.900
<v Speaker 4>very vocal about this and hopes the board starts making

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 4>needed cuts as soon as possible because doing nothing, he says,

0:37:29.020 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 4>is never an option.

0:37:30.820 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 9>This is our financial situation. If we don't address it,

0:37:34.830 --> 0:37:38.610
<v Speaker 9>we will be insolvent within another year at the most.

0:37:38.890 --> 0:37:40.510
<v Speaker 4>Dan Kerman, Cron 4 News.

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<v Speaker 6>Every story at OUSD is they're broke and less people

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<v Speaker 6>are going, yet the school board doesn't change course. The

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<v Speaker 6>teachers union that runs the schools, they don't change course

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<v Speaker 6>because ultimately if they're broke, they believe they can pressure

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<v Speaker 6>the state into just giving them more money. And while

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<v Speaker 6>maybe that won't work on Gavin anymore, you got to

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<v Speaker 6>believe that they believe they'll get a Baccaria bailout.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to a theme park on a

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<v Speaker 2>day when nobody is there?

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<v Speaker 6>Many, many, many times. I used to work at Six

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<v Speaker 6>Flags Magic Mountain during the slow season when nobody was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if no one is in line for the roller coaster,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't just run the roller coaster over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again empty. Yeah, you'd run it if there's

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<v Speaker 2>one or two people on there, but it's a weird feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on right now at Oakland Unified is

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<v Speaker 2>that they have empty classrooms. They have empty campuses. The

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<v Speaker 2>students aren't there, but they have the facilities for a

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<v Speaker 2>robust enrollment. Well, that doesn't exist anymore. They should be

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<v Speaker 2>closing down campuses and shifting students from one campus to another,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't want to do that because they'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to lay people off or not replace them when they retire,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd have to lay off classified personnel, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do it. But at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a school district and there's no kids, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And we know those trend lines aren't going to change

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<v Speaker 6>anytime soon. There is a massive enrollment decline in the

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<v Speaker 6>entire state of California because no one can afford to

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<v Speaker 6>raise their kids in California. So even though it's hard,

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<v Speaker 6>it's time to someone be the bullseye. one and the

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<v Speaker 6>brave one and start closing down schools.