WEBVTT - Music Icons

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>all for joining us tonight. We have an amazing show,

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<v Speaker 1>Rediscovering the Joy. A favorite song gives you, performed by

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<v Speaker 1>one of your favorite singers. And sometimes it's by a

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<v Speaker 1>really popular singer we grew up with, and they become icons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a music icon is an artist who shapes culture,

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<v Speaker 1>creates enduring art, and connects the multi-generational fans. Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>just scoring a temporary in-the-moment pop chart hit. Icons can

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<v Speaker 1>change the way people think, the way they dress and act.

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<v Speaker 1>Their influence goes well beyond their music and spills into

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<v Speaker 1>fashion and film and social movements. You know, today we

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<v Speaker 1>have some icons that are going to join us later

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<v Speaker 1>on in this show, and it's going to be extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what they're thinking about and what their thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>were 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago when they first

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<v Speaker 1>got their start, and some of them even before that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an icon's work stays relevant across decades. Parents

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<v Speaker 1>and children and grandchildren all listen to their songs. They

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<v Speaker 1>all know the lyrics, and they all remember the melodies.

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<v Speaker 1>An icon's best songs remain fresh and powerful long after

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<v Speaker 1>their release. And think about it. I mean, One single note,

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<v Speaker 1>a visual, a vocal style can make them immediately recognizable,

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<v Speaker 1>known around the world. An icon's popularity invents with a word,

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<v Speaker 1>a verse, a song, a new style, or can even

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<v Speaker 1>reinvent a once popular genre from decades ago. And they

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table that unique voice, their voice, that

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<v Speaker 1>no one else can copy. Many popular artists have multiple

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<v Speaker 1>number one hits but are forgotten a decade later. But

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<v Speaker 1>a true icon achieves lasting fame because their art holds

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<v Speaker 1>and plugs into deep emotional value that lasts over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us this evening are several internationally acclaimed singers who

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<v Speaker 1>we all grew up with, some of them friends of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Museum, and they are well-known, award-winning singers, music icons,

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<v Speaker 1>and entertainment professionals whose recordings have reached gold and platinum

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<v Speaker 1>status with numerous awards and Grammys along the way. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>our guests will share special stories about their careers with

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<v Speaker 1>a few personal stories thrown in. I know their recollections, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they may bring tears to your eyes and some will

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<v Speaker 1>actually make you laugh out loud. And can you believe

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<v Speaker 1>several of our guests have worked with each other and

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<v Speaker 1>have been friends for decades? Joining us throughout the show

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<v Speaker 1>is star of stage, screen, television, live concerts, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>a fabulous cabaret singer, the Emmy Award winner Lorna Luft.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the daughter of the legendary Judy Garland and producer

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<v Speaker 1>Sid Luft. And with us this evening will be the

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<v Speaker 1>star of concert stage, theater, film, and television, Frida Payne.

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<v Speaker 1>She rose to fame in the 1970s with her global

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<v Speaker 1>smash number one hit, Band of Gold. Now, Frida has

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<v Speaker 1>released more than 20 albums, including award-winning soul, jazz, disco,

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<v Speaker 1>and compilation projects. And with us this evening is the

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<v Speaker 1>singer-songwriter and keyboardist with a warm contralto voice, Tony Tennille. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony is part of the award-winning group Captain Antonelle and

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<v Speaker 1>is best known for her Grammy-winning hit, Love Will Keep

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<v Speaker 1>Us Together. It's so extraordinary to think that was in 1975.

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<v Speaker 1>And joining us is the critically acclaimed star of television, film,

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<v Speaker 1>and Broadway, Rex Smith. He rose to prominence as a

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<v Speaker 1>teen idol in the 1970s, gracing the covers of teen magazines,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger Beat and The 16 Magazine. with his platinum number

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<v Speaker 1>one album, You Take My Breath Away. And joining us now,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, please welcome Engelbert Humperdinck, the legendary king

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<v Speaker 1>of romance. You know, Engelbert's career spans more than six

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<v Speaker 1>decades and includes over 140 million records. Yes, count them.

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<v Speaker 1>140 million records sold worldwide. with 63 gold and 24

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<v Speaker 1>platinum albums, and four-time Grammy nominee and Golden Globe winner

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<v Speaker 1>known for his first global number one hit, Release Me,

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<v Speaker 1>along with After the Lovin', The Last Waltz, There Goes

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<v Speaker 1>My Everything, A Man Without Love, and his newest chart

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<v Speaker 1>topper that we're going to talk about, I've Got You,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, so much more. Engelbert Humperdinck has received stars

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hollywood, the Las Vegas, and the Leicester Walks

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. Well, hello, Engelbert Humperdinck. Welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited. I feel like a little schoolgirl. Oh, my goodness. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us, may I call you Engelbert?

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<v Speaker 3>You certainly can.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Well, tell us, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get your start?

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<v Speaker 4>I have to think back so many years for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you, how did you get your startup?

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<v Speaker 1>And don't leave anything out.

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<v Speaker 4>I started way back in the 50s with another name

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<v Speaker 4>called Jerry Dorsey.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And that didn't make it. And that didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>So in the 60s, it's around 65, I met Gordon Mill.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were touring together.

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<v Speaker 4>He decided to manage me. And he changed my name

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<v Speaker 4>to Edward Humphrey.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had the song come along, released me. And

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<v Speaker 3>the rest is history.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's kind of extraordinary because we always

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<v Speaker 1>hear stories about people who change their names, but never

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<v Speaker 1>to the extent. Now, how did you come up with

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<v Speaker 1>the name Engelbert Humperdinck?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, apparently it belonged to an old street composer, and

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<v Speaker 4>he composed Hansel and Gretel. And I took the name,

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<v Speaker 4>but our late queen in England made it a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit different because she gave me a title, the MBE,

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<v Speaker 4>so I could put Engelbert.

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<v Speaker 3>Humperdinck MBE down. And it's a little different from the

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<v Speaker 3>original name.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it. I've got it. Well, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>just share with you. We have so much to chat about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to say to all of our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we all want to hear much more from Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Engelbert Humperdinck, and we all will. But let's quickly tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone how they can check out the Hollywood Museum. at

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's where all the movie stars got their

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<v Speaker 1>us here today at Hollywood's Hidden Treasures are looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Museum, showcasing 10,000 real showbiz treasures. spotlighting more than

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<v Speaker 1>100 years of Hollywood's entertainment history from its humble beginnings

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<v Speaker 1>till today. You know there's something for everyone at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Museum in the historic Max Factor building. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for a quick station break. I'm Danelle Dadigan, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And when we return, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be speaking with Mr. Engelbert Humperdinck, the legendary king of romance.

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<v Speaker 1>Engelbert's career spans more than six decades, and he's known

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<v Speaker 1>for his first global hit, Release Me, and so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got lots to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan. Tonight's show is all

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<v Speaker 1>about our celebrity guests, singers, and icons. and they will

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<v Speaker 1>share their personal stories and remembrances about their careers, along

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<v Speaker 1>with some never-before-heard stories from their childhood. They certainly will

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<v Speaker 1>be entertaining and enlightening. And please welcome back Engelbert Humperdinck.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's the legendary king of romance, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just amazed to think that his career is spanning six decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and it includes more than 150 million records. sold worldwide

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<v Speaker 1>with 63 gold and 24 platinum records. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't get over this. I mean, he's a four-time

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<v Speaker 1>Grammy nominee, a Golden Globe winner, and we have loved

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<v Speaker 1>all of his songs. By the way, Mr. Humperdinck Engelbert,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the song that we just played?

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<v Speaker 3>That was after The Loving. That was in 1977. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>It was produced by Joel Diamond. The first was produced

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<v Speaker 4>by Lady Single. And that was the highest paid record

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<v Speaker 4>on radio in that particular year. It was a great

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<v Speaker 4>stepping stone in my career. Ten years after my original

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<v Speaker 4>big hit released me. And of course, it just went

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<v Speaker 4>to number one and was three times platinum.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I was just speaking with your producer,

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Diamond. We were at the Hollywood Bowl together. And

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<v Speaker 1>we got such a kick out of it because he

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<v Speaker 1>knew you were coming on the show and he was like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to learn a lot. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>are today. So tell us when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty years ago, you had your very first hit in 1967,

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<v Speaker 1>Release Me. But now in America, like 60 years later,

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<v Speaker 1>after so many huge chart topping hits and awards. You

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<v Speaker 1>have once again topped the charts. You have successfully hit

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<v Speaker 1>number one on Amazon Music Best New Releases with your

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<v Speaker 1>newest song, I've Got You. I mean, tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 1>How did this happen? Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Joel and I had a meeting together one day,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said to me, why don't we do a

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<v Speaker 4>little repeat on what we did with After the Loving?

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, well, let's get some songs together and

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<v Speaker 4>let me have a little listen. So he brought some

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<v Speaker 4>songs to me, and out of the entire bunch, I

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<v Speaker 4>picked out I've Got You. And it was written by

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<v Speaker 4>Larry Butler, who wrote Kenny Rogers' number one hit. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>most of his hits. And I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 4>good pick for me. And so we went in the

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<v Speaker 4>studio and recorded it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bingo, we got lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, over the decades during your concerts, what song

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<v Speaker 1>gets the biggest reaction from your fans when you perform it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it has to be the original song that I recorded,

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<v Speaker 3>Release Me. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that caused a little bit of a problem because

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<v Speaker 6>it came out in 1967 and it was up against

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<v Speaker 6>the Almighty Beatles with Penny Lane and Strawberry Field.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a double-sided single.

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<v Speaker 4>And Release Me stopped them from having their 13th number one.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's the Guinness Book of.

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<v Speaker 4>Records for the highest sales of any record at that

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<v Speaker 4>particular time. It went up to about 127,000 a day.

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<v Speaker 4>which is unbelievable. You can't think of those kind of

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<v Speaker 4>numbers in today's world.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's just amazing when you think about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my godfather is Hosea Turby. He was a very famous

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<v Speaker 1>classical pianist and conductor who starred in MGM movies. And

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<v Speaker 1>he always talked about, you know, his fans and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I giggle all the time because a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for him in the 40s and 50s and 60s was

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<v Speaker 1>when his female fans threw flowers up on stage at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of a concert and they threw scented handkerchiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you were up on stage performing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the 60s and 70s and 80s, I mean, you know, 90s,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what did the ladies throw up on stage

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, besides flowers and things, which is the normal thing

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<v Speaker 4>for them to bring to you, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 4>threw their underwear up, which is kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you were going to suggest hotel keys.

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<v Speaker 2>But, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That, too, is part of their thing that they throw

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<v Speaker 4>on stage, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness. What wonderful recollections. I know all our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are enjoying listening to you tell them this. Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, I hear... You're celebrating your 90th birthday

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<v Speaker 1>by doing a world tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, a couple of years ago, I started a tour

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<v Speaker 4>called The Last Walls Tour. And I was home for

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<v Speaker 4>about three months. And I was climbing the wall. I

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<v Speaker 4>was going crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a road warrior. And I got anxious feet. And

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<v Speaker 3>I called my manager.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, there's no way this is going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>The Last Walls.

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<v Speaker 4>Tour and so uh we we decided to to continue

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<v Speaker 4>and now we're going to places you know right this

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<v Speaker 4>this tour this year is is taken as a taiwan

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<v Speaker 4>and macau and manila singapore las vegas roncha montreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it's truly a world tour wow yes it's a

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<v Speaker 1>world tour yeah So when are you performing in L.A.?

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<v Speaker 1>We chatted about this. Is this maybe at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's towards the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't looked at my itinerary. I'm busy with the

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<v Speaker 3>ones I'm doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're thrilled to have you on our show. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for making the time to do this in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of your world tour. I mean, this is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to ask now for you to become

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<v Speaker 1>a slight philosopher, okay? If you could have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>today with your younger self, What advice would you give

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<v Speaker 1>to your younger self?

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<v Speaker 5>Never make a decision when you're angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that true?

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<v Speaker 3>That's one. How did you come to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I made a decision when I was angry one time,

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<v Speaker 4>and it caused a catastrophe in my life. It took

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<v Speaker 4>something that was built up for decades. I brought it down,

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<v Speaker 4>but I managed to get over it, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, that's such good advice. I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>all fallen into that trap sooner or later. You're absolutely right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you another question. You know, Engelbert,

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<v Speaker 1>you have recorded and performed so many songs. So which

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<v Speaker 1>of your recordings, which of your songs took you by

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<v Speaker 1>surprise when it became a hit?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, trying to find a hit song is like

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<v Speaker 3>finding a needle in a haystack.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tell us more about this because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Tell us. Share this with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, finding the song that is going to

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<v Speaker 4>strike a nerve in everyone's life is very, very difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>When I found Release Me and I found.

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<v Speaker 4>After the Loving, it struck me as, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a hit song. And every one that I've said, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a hit song, it became a hit, thank God,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, I think I'll have to invite

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<v Speaker 1>you over for lunch so we can have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because I have some ideas. Maybe if I get your blessing,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll become a winning idea. Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I got lucky. I got lucky. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very kind to say that, but you are an

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<v Speaker 1>extremely talented, talented performer. My goodness, my goodness. You know, for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, 40, 50, 60 years, what has it been

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<v Speaker 1>like for you when you go out in public to,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, to dinner or even to a store? You

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<v Speaker 1>must get recognized all of the time. Well, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't go out to be recognized.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I go out in a very nonchalant way

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<v Speaker 4>and try to be as normal as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I bet you still get recognized. I bet people

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<v Speaker 1>recognize you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, yeah, I do. As a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>airport is the worst. Oh, I bet not. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>what released me was my big hit.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's almost 60 years.

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<v Speaker 3>Now since I recorded it.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody who recognizes me and my sideburns, they come up.

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<v Speaker 3>With this one line. Please release me, let me go.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's my recognizable.

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<v Speaker 8>Song.

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<v Speaker 4>And they all sing it in my face everywhere I go.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, I've had a great time chatting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell all of our listeners in our final moments together,

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<v Speaker 1>how can they follow you? Do you have Facebook? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have Instagram?

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<v Speaker 4>I got a thing called Tuesday Newsday, and it's on

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<v Speaker 4>my Facebook. EngelbertHumperdinck.com is my signature. And you can get

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<v Speaker 4>in touch with my information that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. I appreciate that so much. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining us today, Mr. Engelbert Humperdinck, here on

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Engelbert, it's been a pleasure. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Deedee. Thank you for your message.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Well, it's time for a quick break. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we return, we'll be speaking with the singer-songwriter. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you how much I love her,

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<v Speaker 1>Dionne Warwick. You know, her amazing career took off in

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<v Speaker 1>the 60s from Motown all the way to soft pop

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<v Speaker 1>of the 80s with 100 million albums sold. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can hardly wait to hear what Dionne Warwick's favorite song

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<v Speaker 1>is that she recorded. So stay tuned to hear more

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. We've got lots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and tonight's show is all about rediscovering the joys of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite songs and what they gave to us with

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<v Speaker 1>our celebrity guests, singers, icons of their time, sharing their

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<v Speaker 1>own personal stories and what their careers continue to mean

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<v Speaker 1>to them today. Well, please welcome one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>selling female recording artists of all time, Miss Dionne Warwick.

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<v Speaker 1>Her career has taken her from the 60s Motown to

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<v Speaker 1>to the soft pop of the 1980s.

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<v Speaker 5>Ms.

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<v Speaker 1>Warwick has sold 100 million albums. I think it's more, actually.

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<v Speaker 1>She's won six Grammys, including a Lifetime Achievement Grammy. And

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<v Speaker 1>62 years after her first Top 40 hit, She was

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<v Speaker 1>inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Well, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Dionne Warwick.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am fine, and welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to jump in. We've got such little

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<v Speaker 1>time here, but I just need to ask you. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that really gets me is that young

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<v Speaker 1>people today, even after going to college to have that luxury,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of today's youth still have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>the direction of their lives are going to be. But you,

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<v Speaker 1>as a teenager, you had already formed the singing group

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<v Speaker 1>The Gospel Heirs with your sister Didi. Tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of amazing. It's very young.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, first of all, I was born into a gospel

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<v Speaker 9>singing family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, your mother and your father did what your mother did.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, my mother and her siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 9>My dad had nothing to do with the Draco Singers

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<v Speaker 9>at any rate. As I said, I was born into

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<v Speaker 9>a gospel singing family so that I always answered this

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<v Speaker 9>question with the apple didn't fall that far from the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, it's amazing. You know, my initials

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<v Speaker 1>are Dee Dee also, and a lot of people call

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<v Speaker 1>me Dee Dee. So I especially feel a kindred to

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<v Speaker 1>your sister. My goodness. It's amazing. Now, tell me, how

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<v Speaker 1>old were you when you first got started doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>to sing?

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<v Speaker 5>Sing gospel?

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<v Speaker 9>I've been singing gospel all my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>As a child?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes. That's what I grew up listening to and learning

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<v Speaker 9>how to do with my family.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when did you make that decision to move from

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<v Speaker 1>gospel into more soulful music?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it was not a choice of moving from one

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<v Speaker 9>to the other. I still sing gospel. But I made

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<v Speaker 9>a decision. when I was doing background work and demonstration

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<v Speaker 9>records of songs that were being written for other artists.

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<v Speaker 9>And it was heard by the female who owned Scepter Records,

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<v Speaker 9>Laurence Greenberg. She wanted the singer, not the song. One

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<v Speaker 9>thing led to another, and I finally signed the Scepter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So about how old were you when you signed your

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<v Speaker 1>first recording contract?

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<v Speaker 9>I was 19.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. You know, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it's always interesting for us to ask someone who everyone

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<v Speaker 1>considers an icon. And in this case, it's you, Dionne.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is your most iconic moment? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to be remembered for?

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<v Speaker 9>I suppose for just always being me. I can't think

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<v Speaker 9>of anybody or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tell us a little bit about yourself. How would

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<v Speaker 1>you like us to remember you? I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 1>some important factoids and points of recognition that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>are important in your life?

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<v Speaker 9>I think basically the love of people generally. Being able

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<v Speaker 9>to bring a little joy to their lives. as it

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<v Speaker 9>appears I have been able to do for at least

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<v Speaker 9>66 years.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard to imagine. Well, it's how long it's been.

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<v Speaker 9>And just knowing that I made a contribution to their

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<v Speaker 9>lives by making them smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. How lovely. I have to tell you, Wayman,

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<v Speaker 1>our sound engineer in his booth, is clapping. He's applauding

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<v Speaker 1>you as you're speaking.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank him for me, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he can hear you, and he's saying thank you

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<v Speaker 1>right back. Oh, my goodness, you know. So tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're recording, starting in your earlier days, did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea which of the songs you were recording,

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<v Speaker 1>would they become a hit or would they become a miss?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any idea?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm going to say it just like it is.

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<v Speaker 9>If I knew I was going to have a hit

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<v Speaker 9>record on any of the songs I've recorded, I'd be

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<v Speaker 9>sitting on a mountain with a ruby in my forehead.

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<v Speaker 5>And yes, my child.

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo, bravo. Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, as we're chatting. No way. Not even

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<v Speaker 1>an inkling.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, nobody knows. I would defy anybody to tell

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<v Speaker 9>me this is a hit. And it becomes one. It's

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<v Speaker 9>really according to those who are listening to it and

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<v Speaker 9>have a desire to own it. And that's what makes

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<v Speaker 9>it what it becomes. So I can't tell you that

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<v Speaker 9>you're going to like the song. You're going to have

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<v Speaker 9>to make that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, very powerful. Very powerful thoughts and words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Well, speaking of all of this, out of all

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<v Speaker 1>of your hits, which one is your favorite?

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<v Speaker 9>Every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love it. But don't you have one, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little one, that maybe is a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>favorite than the other?

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<v Speaker 5>No, not really.

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<v Speaker 9>They're all very, very special to me. They are written

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<v Speaker 9>specifically for me. And they're like my children. I don't

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<v Speaker 9>have a favorite child.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. You know, so I love to ask

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<v Speaker 1>this question of my celebrity guests. And, of course, for you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's 60 years for the past 60 years. What has

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<v Speaker 1>it been like for you when you go out in

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<v Speaker 1>public to dinner or even shopping in a grocery store?

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<v Speaker 1>You must get recognized all the time. Can you share

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<v Speaker 1>with our listeners a fun story, a meeting, an interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with your fans, or by chance maybe a crazy fan encounter?

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<v Speaker 8>Ha, ha, ha.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm certain that some of those have happened frequently. But,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I'm a people person. I like people. I

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<v Speaker 9>have no problem with people approaching me and speaking with me.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's very easy. How many seconds does it take

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<v Speaker 9>to say hi? That's how long it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, ma'am. You're right.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's how I am approached most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, I have to just share with you,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a major pleasure having you, Miss Dionne Warwick,

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<v Speaker 1>here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And in our final moments together,

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<v Speaker 1>please tell our listeners how they can follow you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a website, a Facebook, Instagram?

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<v Speaker 9>I have three of the most prolific PR people who

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<v Speaker 9>take care of all that. They reach anyone, then they

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<v Speaker 9>can certainly get them any information they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, fabulous. Well, I appreciate that so much. Dion, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a real pleasure having you here today with

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<v Speaker 1>us on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, I think about it all the time,

0:24:48.650 --> 0:24:53.030
<v Speaker 1>and I just wonder, of all of your songs, I remember,

0:24:53.369 --> 0:24:55.210
<v Speaker 1>Do You Know the Way to San Jose? And I

0:24:55.270 --> 0:24:58.369
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you why, but I remember driving one time

0:24:58.430 --> 0:25:01.270
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco, and this song was on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter what pop station I changed it to,

0:25:05.130 --> 0:25:07.859
<v Speaker 1>you were playing it. And you were singing that song.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, it's time for a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we return, we'll be speaking with singer, songwriter,

0:25:17.420 --> 0:25:21.460
<v Speaker 1>and keyboardist with a warm contralto voice, Tony Tennille of

0:25:21.500 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the award-winning soft rock and pop music group Captain and Tennille.

0:25:26.190 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>sharing some special stories about her career along with never-before-heard

0:25:30.190 --> 0:25:34.460
<v Speaker 1>personal stories. Stay tuned to hear more of Hollywood's Hidden Treasures.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Danelle Dadigan, and we've got lots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan,

0:25:41.780 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and tonight's show is all about rediscovering the joys of

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.790
<v Speaker 1>our favorite songs that they once gave us. From all

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.050
<v Speaker 1>of our celebrity guests, you know the singers. They're icons

0:25:52.190 --> 0:25:55.500
<v Speaker 1>of their time. sharing their own personal stories and what

0:25:55.540 --> 0:25:58.810
<v Speaker 1>their careers continue to mean to them today. And with

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<v Speaker 1>us is singer-songwriter and keyboardist with a warm contralto voice,

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<v Speaker 1>Toni Tennille of the award-winning group Captain and Tennille. She

0:26:08.030 --> 0:26:11.730
<v Speaker 1>is known for her Grammy-winning song, Love Will Keep Us Together,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just gave it away. I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Toni, hey, did you recognize that song that we

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<v Speaker 1>played on the intro? Okay, Toni, what can I say?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Danelle, of course I do. And I tell you

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 8>what thrilled me so much. And also Neil Sedaka, who

0:26:26.340 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 8>wrote it. Neil passed away. Yes. But he was still

0:26:30.940 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 8>alive when they used it on the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 8>And they used it a lot. And all of a sudden,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, we had some new fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure of that. They had no clue who we were. Well,

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.050
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's amazing when you think about it, because

0:26:44.180 --> 0:26:48.969
<v Speaker 1>your song was a number one top-selling U.S. single in 1975.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 8>It was record of the year, and it shocked the

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<v Speaker 8>heck out of me. I remember... Daryl and I were

0:26:57.070 --> 0:27:00.510
<v Speaker 8>there at our first Grammys, you know, and I knew

0:27:00.530 --> 0:27:03.790
<v Speaker 8>we weren't going to win because I think Rhinestone Cowboy

0:27:03.850 --> 0:27:05.889
<v Speaker 8>was up for the award for record of the year.

0:27:06.190 --> 0:27:08.869
<v Speaker 8>And I think there was another, oh, it was the Eagles,

0:27:08.950 --> 0:27:13.109
<v Speaker 8>who I adore. And I thought, we do not have

0:27:13.330 --> 0:27:16.490
<v Speaker 8>a chance. So when they, you know, Stevie Wonder was

0:27:16.550 --> 0:27:20.369
<v Speaker 8>giving the award out. And when he announced our name,

0:27:20.450 --> 0:27:21.830
<v Speaker 8>I just about fainted.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I bet you did, you know, but listen, you know,

0:27:25.170 --> 0:27:27.540
<v Speaker 1>it's so phenomenal because when I think about it, I mean,

0:27:27.740 --> 0:27:30.739
<v Speaker 1>here you are with your partner and husband. It was

0:27:30.830 --> 0:27:33.850
<v Speaker 1>Daryl Dragon of Captain and Tennille. You know, I mean,

0:27:33.869 --> 0:27:38.250
<v Speaker 1>you had six gold singles, five gold albums, a platinum single,

0:27:38.410 --> 0:27:41.390
<v Speaker 1>two platinum albums. I mean, here you were, you won

0:27:41.430 --> 0:27:43.780
<v Speaker 1>this Grammy Award for Record of the Year in 1976.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knew this? But I think what's interesting

0:27:47.220 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for our listeners really is that you personally have recorded

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>multiple solo albums. And here is the kicker, because I

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.649
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people don't know this. You have

0:27:57.810 --> 0:28:01.590
<v Speaker 1>actually worked with major artists, including the Beach Boys, Elton John,

0:28:01.609 --> 0:28:05.510
<v Speaker 1>all Art Garfunkel, Pink Floyd, and you even hosted your

0:28:05.609 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>own syndicated talk show, The Tony DeNew Show.

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<v Speaker 8>I did, and I loved that show. I loved that show.

0:28:11.380 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 8>I was so proud of it. Anyway, yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, it's kind of amazing, but I've got to

0:28:19.910 --> 0:28:22.090
<v Speaker 1>just jump back, and I want to ask you, you

0:28:22.130 --> 0:28:24.790
<v Speaker 1>got started with... Am I right or not? Did you

0:28:24.869 --> 0:28:28.350
<v Speaker 1>start your career with another iconic group called the Beach Boys?

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<v Speaker 1>And how did that come about?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it came about because through theater, because I was

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 8>at a theater group in Southern California. But anyway, I

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.980
<v Speaker 8>wrote a musical for them called Mother Earth. Yes. It

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.780
<v Speaker 8>was a musical about the beach. long before its time,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 8>because I wrote it in the late 60s, and it

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.140
<v Speaker 8>was about the ecology and everything that was going on,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.900
<v Speaker 8>and the same things we have now, only we're bigger

0:28:53.940 --> 0:28:58.190
<v Speaker 8>now with troubles. But then it was a rock musical,

0:28:58.250 --> 0:29:00.450
<v Speaker 8>and I wrote it with a director there named.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.140
<v Speaker 8>Uh, uh, God, I can't even remember his name. That's

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 8>what you get when you're as old as I am,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.260
<v Speaker 8>but wonderful guy. He wrote the lyrics, he wrote the

0:29:09.300 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 8>lyrics and he said, do you think you can set

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.510
<v Speaker 8>these to music? And I said, yeah, I'll give it

0:29:13.550 --> 0:29:16.110
<v Speaker 8>a try. I've never written anything before, but I'll give

0:29:16.130 --> 0:29:19.150
<v Speaker 8>it a try. So I sat down and started doing

0:29:19.170 --> 0:29:21.330
<v Speaker 8>the lyrics and it worked out really well. We called

0:29:21.370 --> 0:29:25.860
<v Speaker 8>the show mother earth. And, um, We got all sorts

0:29:25.900 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 8>of awards for it. We moved it up to San

0:29:28.420 --> 0:29:32.510
<v Speaker 8>Francisco in a professional production. And we were getting ready

0:29:32.550 --> 0:29:36.110
<v Speaker 8>to bring it down to L.A. And our acoustic pianist

0:29:36.170 --> 0:29:38.310
<v Speaker 8>could not come with us. I played some of the

0:29:38.330 --> 0:29:41.100
<v Speaker 8>piano on the stage. and I was in the show,

0:29:41.170 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 8>but you know, I couldn't do it all because I

0:29:43.620 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 8>had other things to do. But anyway. So, I came down,

0:29:48.260 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 8>I was looking for a keyboard player. And one of

0:29:51.500 --> 0:29:54.900
<v Speaker 8>the guys said, what about Daryl Dragon? He works with

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.770
<v Speaker 8>the Beach Boys. And I said, I don't know him,

0:29:57.010 --> 0:29:59.170
<v Speaker 8>but I know the Beach Boys. And he said, yeah,

0:29:59.330 --> 0:30:02.270
<v Speaker 8>he would be the ideal one. He lives in LA. So,

0:30:02.430 --> 0:30:05.969
<v Speaker 8>somehow we got together and he flew up to audition

0:30:06.070 --> 0:30:08.500
<v Speaker 8>for me because it was my show, you know, I

0:30:08.500 --> 0:30:11.979
<v Speaker 8>had You know, basically written it pretty much. And he

0:30:12.020 --> 0:30:14.620
<v Speaker 8>came up and I met him in the lobby of

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.190
<v Speaker 8>the Marines Memorial Theater up in San Francisco, which is

0:30:18.310 --> 0:30:21.130
<v Speaker 8>now gone, I'm sad to say. But it was a

0:30:21.170 --> 0:30:24.770
<v Speaker 8>beautiful theater where we were performing Mother Earth. And I

0:30:24.810 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 8>walked in at the time that we were going to,

0:30:27.300 --> 0:30:29.830
<v Speaker 8>you know, he was going to audition for me. And

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.990
<v Speaker 8>I saw him sitting there, and he was all dressed

0:30:32.070 --> 0:30:37.890
<v Speaker 8>in black, and he looked very mysterious and interesting and

0:30:37.970 --> 0:30:40.350
<v Speaker 8>all that kind of thing. He was quite handsome. I'm

0:30:40.370 --> 0:30:40.950
<v Speaker 8>going to ask you, did.

0:30:40.910 --> 0:30:42.870
<v Speaker 1>He wear the captain's hat already, or.

0:30:43.780 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he had it on his head then.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:46.740
<v Speaker 10>Just asking, just asking.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't remember that.

0:30:47.460 --> 0:30:49.540
<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I don't remember that part. I just

0:30:49.580 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 8>remember he was really handsome and I thought, boy, I

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 8>hope he's a good piano player. So we sat down

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.459
<v Speaker 8>together and he started playing and then he made me

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.780
<v Speaker 8>laugh when he played because he used to do these

0:31:00.820 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 8>little musical jokes where he'd be playing a song and

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 8>he'd break out in the middle of it and, you know,

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.700
<v Speaker 8>play somebody else's song in the middle and it would

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.700
<v Speaker 8>just make me laugh. Where did that come from? But anyway, so...

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.719
<v Speaker 8>I hired him, and that's how I got to know him.

0:31:15.070 --> 0:31:17.950
<v Speaker 8>We went on our first tour together as I was

0:31:18.010 --> 0:31:21.610
<v Speaker 8>part of the band. He just called Carl Wilson and said,

0:31:21.650 --> 0:31:24.550
<v Speaker 8>I've got your keyboard player for you, because Carl had

0:31:24.610 --> 0:31:27.310
<v Speaker 8>asked him to find one. And he said, it's a girl.

0:31:27.410 --> 0:31:29.690
<v Speaker 8>And Carl said, I don't care. Can she do it?

0:31:29.730 --> 0:31:34.170
<v Speaker 8>And Daryl said, oh, yeah. So we flew to New York,

0:31:34.630 --> 0:31:36.570
<v Speaker 8>and that is where, in one of the small towns

0:31:36.670 --> 0:31:39.750
<v Speaker 8>up north, that's where we rehearsed. And, you know, I

0:31:40.430 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 8>I was falling madly in love with him.

0:31:43.470 --> 0:31:45.700
<v Speaker 1>And these things happen. These things happen.

0:31:45.900 --> 0:31:47.060
<v Speaker 9>Oh, I know.

0:31:47.140 --> 0:31:49.620
<v Speaker 8>But it was so stupid because, of course, it didn't

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 8>work out because I had envisioned in my mind, you know,

0:31:54.180 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 8>the kind of man that I loved and I wanted

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.270
<v Speaker 8>to love me. And as we were together, I finally

0:31:59.310 --> 0:32:02.350
<v Speaker 8>realized he wasn't going to be able to be that kind.

0:32:02.170 --> 0:32:02.550
<v Speaker 9>Of a guy.

0:32:02.830 --> 0:32:07.430
<v Speaker 8>But he was a great arranger, producer. And one of

0:32:07.450 --> 0:32:10.570
<v Speaker 8>the most fun things, parts I had with Daryl was

0:32:10.610 --> 0:32:13.110
<v Speaker 8>that I would write a song and he would turn

0:32:13.150 --> 0:32:14.030
<v Speaker 8>it into a record.

0:32:14.050 --> 0:32:15.330
<v Speaker 1>And I went.

0:32:15.490 --> 0:32:20.060
<v Speaker 8>Wow, that's fabulous. You know, and so that happened throughout

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.540
<v Speaker 8>our career. But I would never let him hear me

0:32:22.580 --> 0:32:25.020
<v Speaker 8>when I was working on a song because I didn't

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 8>want his suggestions. You know, he'd be in a not-too-far-away listing,

0:32:29.820 --> 0:32:32.260
<v Speaker 8>and I'd play something that I'd just written, and he'd say,

0:32:32.620 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 8>why'd you use that chord?

0:32:35.620 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, Tony, why did you?

0:32:36.940 --> 0:32:41.610
<v Speaker 8>It's the one I wanted to use. And he said, well,

0:32:41.650 --> 0:32:43.970
<v Speaker 8>you know, that's a parallel fifth.

0:32:44.450 --> 0:32:46.630
<v Speaker 1>Not a diminished seventh. What are you going to do

0:32:46.730 --> 0:32:48.070
<v Speaker 1>on it? That's right.

0:32:48.090 --> 0:32:48.730
<v Speaker 8>I said, okay.

0:32:51.910 --> 0:32:54.510
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm going to interrupt because during the station break,

0:32:54.550 --> 0:32:57.110
<v Speaker 1>we were chatting. And, you know, we had Dionne Warwick

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.620
<v Speaker 1>on before, and we were chatting about her. And you

0:33:00.660 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>had her on your TV show.

0:33:02.900 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 8>Yes, she was on the Captain and Tennille show. I

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.540
<v Speaker 8>wanted to do a duet with her. I just loved her.

0:33:09.100 --> 0:33:11.810
<v Speaker 8>And she had such a unique voice. And by that,

0:33:11.870 --> 0:33:14.150
<v Speaker 8>I mean, if you heard, you know, a few notes

0:33:14.210 --> 0:33:16.430
<v Speaker 8>of it on the radio, you immediately knew it was her.

0:33:16.770 --> 0:33:19.930
<v Speaker 8>You're not going, who is that singing? You knew immediately

0:33:20.010 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 8>it was Dionne. And anyway, she agreed. And so we

0:33:23.340 --> 0:33:28.660
<v Speaker 8>did an arrangement of He's Gone, which turns to She's Gone.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.170
<v Speaker 8>And Daryl played the vibes. And you can see it.

0:33:32.220 --> 0:33:35.950
<v Speaker 8>It's on YouTube. You can just say, look up Captain

0:33:35.990 --> 0:33:38.810
<v Speaker 8>and Tennille and Dionne Warwick or Tony Tennille and Dionne

0:33:38.830 --> 0:33:42.229
<v Speaker 8>Warwick do a duet. And I'm telling you, it just

0:33:42.550 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 8>knocked me flat. She and I just clicked. And, you know,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 8>we sang it and Daryl played very well. And she

0:33:49.380 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 8>and I just, I just had a great time with her. Anyway,

0:33:52.500 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 8>at the very end of it, you know, as we

0:33:54.780 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 8>finally did a couple of takes to make sure we

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.870
<v Speaker 8>had it exactly right. And then as we were leaving

0:33:59.910 --> 0:34:03.490
<v Speaker 8>the stage, her son, who was very young at the time,

0:34:03.550 --> 0:34:06.070
<v Speaker 8>I think he was probably 10 or 11 or 12

0:34:06.070 --> 0:34:08.310
<v Speaker 8>or something, he was with her. And he said, he's

0:34:08.350 --> 0:34:11.109
<v Speaker 8>walking next to me, he says, I never heard my

0:34:11.150 --> 0:34:13.330
<v Speaker 8>mother sing that loud before.

0:34:13.350 --> 0:34:16.660
<v Speaker 1>Wow, wow. You know what? And I want to share

0:34:16.700 --> 0:34:18.980
<v Speaker 1>with you, because that is just amazing, because I have,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.180
<v Speaker 1>this is just going to lead right into the next question,

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 1>speaking of duets.

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:22.460
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:34:22.660 --> 0:34:25.940
<v Speaker 1>And something nice that somebody said, you know, you've actually

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>performed with so many different icons. And, you know, that

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>level lifts everyone to that icon status. And I'm thinking about.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.100
<v Speaker 3>In your career, you had....

0:34:36.700 --> 0:34:40.890
<v Speaker 1>Ella Fitzgerald guest appear on your TV special. I mean,

0:34:40.910 --> 0:34:43.810
<v Speaker 1>on the Captain and Tennille songbook.

0:34:43.830 --> 0:34:47.130
<v Speaker 8>Captain and Tennille songbook special. Yeah, that was going to

0:34:47.150 --> 0:34:50.100
<v Speaker 8>be all music. No comedy, no skits or anything.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 5>All music.

0:34:51.020 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And you describe this as one of the greatest experiences

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.339
<v Speaker 1>of your life. Well, you've got to share with our

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.820
<v Speaker 1>listeners what it was that Ella told you in the middle.

0:34:58.590 --> 0:34:58.969
<v Speaker 9>Of it all.

0:35:00.860 --> 0:35:02.180
<v Speaker 8>Well, we talked about a lot of things, but I

0:35:02.219 --> 0:35:04.810
<v Speaker 8>think I know what you're talking about. It was a very,

0:35:04.870 --> 0:35:09.690
<v Speaker 8>very complicated arrangement of torch songs where we would switch

0:35:09.870 --> 0:35:12.530
<v Speaker 8>off throughout. It was about nine and a half minutes

0:35:12.610 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 8>long and it was complicated. It wasn't easy to do,

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.830
<v Speaker 8>but we rehearsed it, you know, before we actually taped it.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 8>And let me just say this about Ella. She was

0:35:22.820 --> 0:35:28.219
<v Speaker 8>the dearest, loveliest kindest most modest star I ever met

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.850
<v Speaker 8>in my life and I just immediately loved her with

0:35:33.010 --> 0:35:35.969
<v Speaker 8>all my heart so we did the song and it

0:35:36.010 --> 0:35:39.870
<v Speaker 8>was just fabulous and while we were rehearsing it when

0:35:39.910 --> 0:35:41.330
<v Speaker 8>we did the first take she.

0:35:41.290 --> 0:35:43.170
<v Speaker 10>Said was that all right?

0:35:44.610 --> 0:35:49.910
<v Speaker 8>You're asking me if that was all right? I said, Ellen,

0:35:50.090 --> 0:35:53.350
<v Speaker 8>it was perfect in every way. So I've had a

0:35:53.410 --> 0:35:55.509
<v Speaker 8>lot of, you know, my daddy, who was a big

0:35:55.570 --> 0:36:00.010
<v Speaker 8>band singer in the late 1930s with the Bob Crosby band,

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 8>he introduced me to all these great singers, you know, Ellen,

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 8>Carmen McRae and Sarah Vaughan. And, you know, he used

0:36:06.500 --> 0:36:09.060
<v Speaker 8>to say Frank Sinatra was one of the greatest singers.

0:36:09.300 --> 0:36:11.339
<v Speaker 8>His phrasing was one of the greatest in the world.

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<v Speaker 8>And at that time, I didn't quite understand what he

0:36:14.060 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 8>was talking about. But of course, now as a professional singer,

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 8>I know exactly what he's talking about. And, you know,

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.030
<v Speaker 8>when I sing a song, I go into what it means,

0:36:24.310 --> 0:36:26.650
<v Speaker 8>what it means from the composer who wrote it, what

0:36:26.910 --> 0:36:29.770
<v Speaker 8>point they were trying to get across. And I phrase

0:36:29.830 --> 0:36:32.410
<v Speaker 8>the lyrics. so that they make sense, that they're almost

0:36:32.450 --> 0:36:35.510
<v Speaker 8>like you're hearing it being spoken, but it's being sung.

0:36:35.530 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 8>And that's what he meant about Sinatra.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely. He was fabulous. And one day we're going

0:36:40.980 --> 0:36:42.660
<v Speaker 1>to have to chat about that because I had the

0:36:42.700 --> 0:36:45.340
<v Speaker 1>pleasure of knowing him personally. Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you? Yes.

0:36:46.820 --> 0:36:48.540
<v Speaker 1>And, you know, Tony, I mean, I don't know where

0:36:48.580 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>this time has gone on. This segment has gone by

0:36:50.940 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so quickly. All I can say is we've just had

0:36:53.180 --> 0:36:56.739
<v Speaker 1>a great pleasure having you, Miss Tony Tennille, here on

0:36:56.900 --> 0:37:00.710
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Just share with our listeners how they

0:37:00.730 --> 0:37:03.339
<v Speaker 1>can follow you, your Facebook, your Instagram.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you know what?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not I'm not followed much because I keep a

0:37:08.450 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 8>low profile. I was never happy with the fame part

0:37:12.940 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 8>of fame. And, you know, I live quietly pretty much

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 8>in Prescott, Arizona, which is a small town, but it's

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.089
<v Speaker 8>very much a theater town and an arts town. And

0:37:23.710 --> 0:37:26.870
<v Speaker 8>I've done a million wonderful things here, including starring in

0:37:26.910 --> 0:37:28.910
<v Speaker 8>a fabulous production of Hello, Dolly!

0:37:29.150 --> 0:37:29.910
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you did.

0:37:29.930 --> 0:37:33.049
<v Speaker 8>So at the college and I loved it. But I

0:37:33.130 --> 0:37:35.690
<v Speaker 8>keep a low profile and I don't do, you know,

0:37:35.730 --> 0:37:37.820
<v Speaker 8>interviews like I'm doing for you very often.

0:37:38.219 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, I so appreciate it. And I know my

0:37:40.100 --> 0:37:41.780
<v Speaker 1>listeners appreciate it, too.

0:37:42.969 --> 0:37:45.130
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm just a quiet person and all the people

0:37:45.170 --> 0:37:47.069
<v Speaker 8>here kind of know it and they let me live

0:37:47.110 --> 0:37:48.609
<v Speaker 8>my life, you know, the way I do.

0:37:48.790 --> 0:37:51.310
<v Speaker 1>Well, God bless them for that. I appreciate that. I

0:37:51.350 --> 0:37:54.140
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you saying this and thank you for joining us

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>today here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Thank you, Tony. We

0:37:57.780 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>have enjoyed having you here and I know all of

0:38:00.340 --> 0:38:02.660
<v Speaker 1>our listeners loved your stories.

0:38:03.219 --> 0:38:05.219
<v Speaker 8>Well, I've got a million more. So, you know, we're

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:05.780
<v Speaker 8>going to have.

0:38:05.660 --> 0:38:07.980
<v Speaker 1>To have you back if you have the time. If

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you have the time, we've got the show. That's it.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Danielle.

0:38:13.739 --> 0:38:14.910
<v Speaker 8>Thanks so much for calling.

0:38:15.010 --> 0:38:18.170
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Oh, my goodness. Tony Tennille.

0:38:18.370 --> 0:38:18.830
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:38:19.050 --> 0:38:21.069
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's time to take a quick break.

0:38:21.110 --> 0:38:24.129
<v Speaker 1>When we return, our guest will be the teenage idol,

0:38:24.450 --> 0:38:27.609
<v Speaker 1>who graced the covers of those teen magazines and sang

0:38:27.650 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>his platinum number one hit album, You Take My Breath Away.

0:38:31.580 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a great friend of the Hollywood Museum, Rex Smith,

0:38:35.300 --> 0:38:37.859
<v Speaker 1>and he's got some great advice and life lessons that

0:38:37.900 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he's going to share with us. So stay tuned to

0:38:40.420 --> 0:38:43.770
<v Speaker 1>hear more of Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan, and

0:38:43.810 --> 0:38:47.469
<v Speaker 1>when we return, we've got lots to talk about. Welcome back.

0:38:47.510 --> 0:38:50.290
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan, and

0:38:50.489 --> 0:38:54.690
<v Speaker 1>tonight's show is all about rediscovering the joy a favorite

0:38:54.730 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>song gives us. performed by some of our favorite singers,

0:38:58.580 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 1>with some of them becoming icons of the era, sharing

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>their own personal stories and what their careers continue to

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>mean to them today. And joining us is the man

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.410
<v Speaker 1>who performed at the Hollywood Bowl just last week or

0:39:11.450 --> 0:39:15.489
<v Speaker 1>the week before, is the versatile, critically acclaimed actor and

0:39:15.550 --> 0:39:19.450
<v Speaker 1>singer Rex Smith, who first rose to prominence as a

0:39:19.550 --> 0:39:24.050
<v Speaker 1>teen idol in the late 1970s before expanding his career

0:39:24.110 --> 0:39:28.220
<v Speaker 1>to include television film and Broadway Theater. We all remember

0:39:28.300 --> 0:39:32.580
<v Speaker 1>Rex Smith's teen idol years. gracing the covers of teen magazines,

0:39:32.700 --> 0:39:37.670
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Beat and Sixteen Magazine. His platinum number one hit album,

0:39:37.690 --> 0:39:41.109
<v Speaker 1>You Take My Breath Away, and then there was Everlasting

0:39:41.170 --> 0:39:43.469
<v Speaker 1>Love and Where Do We Go From Here and A

0:39:43.510 --> 0:39:47.030
<v Speaker 1>Boy's Logic and Children of the Sky and Hands Haunt

0:39:47.110 --> 0:39:47.710
<v Speaker 1>My Skin.

0:39:47.850 --> 0:39:48.170
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:39:48.310 --> 0:39:51.750
<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember all these songs. And Rex continues to

0:39:51.850 --> 0:39:56.700
<v Speaker 1>enjoy performing on Off-Broadway and on Broadway with his Broadway

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>debut Once Upon a Time in the musical Grease and

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.850
<v Speaker 1>in The Pirates of Penzance and in the film. It's

0:40:02.890 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of amazing to think about it that Rex is

0:40:05.739 --> 0:40:08.980
<v Speaker 1>also starred in his own TV series, Street Hawk, and

0:40:09.180 --> 0:40:13.150
<v Speaker 1>today he has a powerful one-man show. I have seen it.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.980
<v Speaker 1>I suggest to all my listeners to check it out.

0:40:16.060 --> 0:40:18.410
<v Speaker 1>If you can find out where Rex Smith is performing,

0:40:18.610 --> 0:40:22.170
<v Speaker 1>go and see his one-man show. It's amazing. You know,

0:40:22.270 --> 0:40:25.750
<v Speaker 1>in addition to his musical successes— Rex Smith earned a

0:40:25.910 --> 0:40:29.550
<v Speaker 1>major stage honor, the Theater World Award, for his acclaimed

0:40:29.690 --> 0:40:34.029
<v Speaker 1>Broadway performance as Frederick in Pirates of Penzance. Well, hey, Rex,

0:40:34.219 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it's great to have you here once again on Hollywood's

0:40:36.940 --> 0:40:37.700
<v Speaker 1>Hidden Treasures.

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<v Speaker 5>I was enraptured with that introduction. I want to meet

0:40:41.300 --> 0:40:41.939
<v Speaker 5>Rex Smith.

0:40:42.100 --> 0:40:44.460
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's a fabulous guy, let me tell you. Let

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>me tell you.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:51.650
<v Speaker 5>That introduction song, you certainly picked one that... As we're

0:40:51.670 --> 0:40:55.529
<v Speaker 5>talking about music, that is the Golden Goose Egg or

0:40:55.550 --> 0:40:58.890
<v Speaker 5>the Platinum Goose Egg. That song right there, there is

0:40:58.930 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 5>a special story attached to it. When and if you're

0:41:03.100 --> 0:41:05.020
<v Speaker 5>ready to hear it, I'm happy to relate it to

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 5>you because it sounds almost... unbelievable, but it's true.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.299
<v Speaker 1>So let me just ask you the question. How old

0:41:12.380 --> 0:41:15.819
<v Speaker 1>were you when you got your first recording contract? How

0:41:15.860 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>did you become this teenage idol?

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.500
<v Speaker 5>Well, prior to that, I was a rock and roll star.

0:41:20.820 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 5>I signed with Columbia at 20 years old by the

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:28.140
<v Speaker 5>managers of Aerosmith and Ted Nugent and my band Wreck.

0:41:28.340 --> 0:41:32.190
<v Speaker 5>My first two albums were just ripping hard rock albums.

0:41:32.750 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 5>And I did two six-month tours in support of the

0:41:36.739 --> 0:41:40.670
<v Speaker 5>first and second album, opening for Ted Nugent. And I

0:41:40.710 --> 0:41:43.629
<v Speaker 5>was so rock and roll, ACDC opened for me. So

0:41:43.830 --> 0:41:46.670
<v Speaker 5>I was a completely different, my arc and my dream

0:41:46.730 --> 0:41:48.790
<v Speaker 5>was to be a rock and roll star. And I

0:41:49.050 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 5>achieved playing Anaheim Stadium to Madison Square Garden and the

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.700
<v Speaker 5>last concert with Leonard Skinner before the plane crashed, before

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 5>we played Madison Square Garden. When I played Madison Square Garden,

0:42:01.430 --> 0:42:03.950
<v Speaker 5>the producers of a movie called Sooner or Later came

0:42:03.989 --> 0:42:06.549
<v Speaker 5>to check me out. They were looking for someone to

0:42:06.630 --> 0:42:10.129
<v Speaker 5>star in this movie for NBC's Movie of the Week.

0:42:10.530 --> 0:42:12.790
<v Speaker 5>And when I came off tour, they offered me the part.

0:42:12.930 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 5>And that's something I had never done. But, you know,

0:42:15.260 --> 0:42:18.859
<v Speaker 5>I had experience playing in Madison Square Garden. So let's

0:42:18.900 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 5>see what making a movie is like.

0:42:20.820 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And You Take.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.420
<v Speaker 5>My Breath Away was part of the soundtrack of the movie.

0:42:24.780 --> 0:42:28.570
<v Speaker 5>And the song was written by Bruce Hart, who also

0:42:28.870 --> 0:42:33.870
<v Speaker 5>famously wrote another song that everybody knows is... Sunny days

0:42:33.989 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 5>chasing the clouds away. And when you think of that

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 5>song and how simple and lasting it is, and then

0:42:41.540 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 5>you go, you.

0:42:43.180 --> 0:42:43.930
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:42:43.810 --> 0:42:45.210
<v Speaker 1>What to say. Is that Sesame Street?

0:42:45.430 --> 0:42:50.090
<v Speaker 5>You take my breath away. You know, that was Sesame Street.

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.420
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Well, we got to applaud our engineer, Wayman,

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 1>on telling you, because he's the one who said, is

0:42:56.430 --> 0:42:57.790
<v Speaker 1>that from Sesame Street?

0:42:58.250 --> 0:42:58.550
<v Speaker 10>Yes.

0:42:58.730 --> 0:43:01.970
<v Speaker 5>Well, that, you know, it was almost like Hemingway writing

0:43:01.989 --> 0:43:05.750
<v Speaker 5>a book. He condensed it down to the barest elements

0:43:05.810 --> 0:43:08.219
<v Speaker 5>that really go straight to the heart. And the most

0:43:08.340 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 5>amazing part of that is my first day of filming

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.620
<v Speaker 5>in a movie I'd never done a movie before. I'm

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.620
<v Speaker 5>up at five in the morning. I'm shooting all day.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.130
<v Speaker 5>And it's seven o'clock at night. I went into record plant.

0:43:21.710 --> 0:43:24.989
<v Speaker 5>And Charlie Colello, who was the producer who produced all

0:43:25.010 --> 0:43:27.810
<v Speaker 5>the four seasons, he was known as the fifth season

0:43:27.890 --> 0:43:30.550
<v Speaker 5>or is known as. And he goes, kid, I've got

0:43:30.590 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 5>the first track ready for you. Why don't you go

0:43:33.420 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 5>in and get ready? So I put the headset on

0:43:36.180 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 5>and I'm testing in the microphone. Give me a little

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:39.700
<v Speaker 5>more reverb. Just a touch.

0:43:39.739 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>That's good.

0:43:40.260 --> 0:43:42.380
<v Speaker 5>Let me hear the track. Give me a little more bass.

0:43:42.460 --> 0:43:46.180
<v Speaker 5>I've got a headphone mix. And I said, okay, just

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.820
<v Speaker 5>roll it. I was just going to do that. I

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 5>had not sung the song. So I was just going

0:43:51.180 --> 0:43:54.339
<v Speaker 5>to do a warm-up so I sang the song just

0:43:54.420 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 5>warming up and Charlie went come in we got it

0:43:57.500 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 5>and I was like you're kidding me I mean I've

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:03.130
<v Speaker 5>done two albums before and I may spend four hours

0:44:03.270 --> 0:44:05.290
<v Speaker 5>on a song you know what I mean doing double

0:44:05.330 --> 0:44:08.029
<v Speaker 5>track and stuff and he said come in and he's

0:44:08.070 --> 0:44:11.469
<v Speaker 5>just you know astute you know wonderful producer he knew

0:44:11.550 --> 0:44:14.090
<v Speaker 5>that he had lightning in a bottle or whatever that

0:44:14.130 --> 0:44:16.350
<v Speaker 5>right there that that that was it and he said

0:44:16.410 --> 0:44:18.070
<v Speaker 5>I want to show you something and I went okay

0:44:18.450 --> 0:44:20.870
<v Speaker 5>He goes, roll tape, because there was tape in those days.

0:44:21.450 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 5>And on the mixing board, the volume, there was four

0:44:24.460 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 5>volume levers. And he went, I want you to hear

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.140
<v Speaker 5>the sliders. As he moved them up at the beginning

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 5>of the song, there was four backup singers.

0:44:31.300 --> 0:44:33.940
<v Speaker 1>Going, ooh, ah, ooh, ah.

0:44:33.980 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 5>Take my breath away. And he goes, he pulled them

0:44:35.820 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 5>down and said, well, we don't need that, do we?

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.050
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know how good you were, kid. And I said,

0:44:41.270 --> 0:44:43.230
<v Speaker 5>and I was listening to the song. And I said,

0:44:43.590 --> 0:44:46.810
<v Speaker 5>I got to go to the bathroom. Locked the door. Now,

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.700
<v Speaker 5>I came up through the South. You know, I cut

0:44:49.739 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 5>my teeth and paid my dues playing 100 nights straight,

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.780
<v Speaker 5>playing in clubs with guns and beer bottles and everything

0:44:56.860 --> 0:44:59.989
<v Speaker 5>else flying. And I looked at myself in the mirror

0:45:00.590 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 5>and I actually started to cry. I went, I knew it.

0:45:03.730 --> 0:45:07.170
<v Speaker 5>I went, that's a hit. I just made a hit.

0:45:07.330 --> 0:45:07.569
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:45:07.710 --> 0:45:10.210
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I've been asking this question to several

0:45:10.430 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of our singers this evening. How do you know... Your

0:45:13.820 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>song's going to become a hit when you first record it.

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Some of them knew it and some of them said

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.060
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. You know, they had no idea.

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.660
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that I knew. And here's the thing. What Charlie knew,

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:31.140
<v Speaker 5>Charlie Colello, that even though I was just rehearsing, oftentimes

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 5>a band or a singer will do a demo and

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.180
<v Speaker 5>it's just perfect. But maybe the demo is not quite right,

0:45:37.469 --> 0:45:39.770
<v Speaker 5>you know, and you go in the studio and you

0:45:39.810 --> 0:45:43.310
<v Speaker 5>try to recreate that song and you never get the magic.

0:45:43.550 --> 0:45:46.549
<v Speaker 5>You overthink it. You know, you go, wait a minute,

0:45:46.710 --> 0:45:48.690
<v Speaker 5>tweak that bass a little bit. Let me miss that

0:45:48.750 --> 0:45:51.430
<v Speaker 5>note or something. Not all the time, but sometimes you

0:45:51.450 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 5>just cannot, you can't capture the moment that was just flimsy.

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.219
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask this question to you because we're

0:45:58.260 --> 0:46:01.469
<v Speaker 1>talking about this. So how did you handle it? The

0:46:01.550 --> 0:46:04.450
<v Speaker 1>major fame that came your way, was it like an

0:46:04.610 --> 0:46:07.350
<v Speaker 1>instant overnight fame? At least that's what all of us

0:46:07.430 --> 0:46:10.370
<v Speaker 1>fans thought. You know, we read about you, you know,

0:46:10.590 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>in the magazines, the teen magazines. We'd attend your concerts

0:46:14.340 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and we want to know everything about you. And I mean,

0:46:16.500 --> 0:46:19.420
<v Speaker 1>this was in the days before Internet and social media.

0:46:19.700 --> 0:46:23.140
<v Speaker 1>So how long did it really take you to become

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:23.859
<v Speaker 1>this teen idol?

0:46:24.420 --> 0:46:27.010
<v Speaker 5>Here's what happened. While I was waiting for the movie

0:46:27.030 --> 0:46:29.570
<v Speaker 5>to come out, it was six months, so I couldn't work.

0:46:29.670 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 5>I didn't have a band. The album wasn't released. I

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.460
<v Speaker 5>was riding my motorcycle around New York City. One night,

0:46:35.500 --> 0:46:37.459
<v Speaker 5>I'm crying to my beer to a buddy of mine.

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 8>And he goes, why.

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.610
<v Speaker 5>Don't you go audition for Danny Zuko in Greece? I go,

0:46:40.610 --> 0:46:43.190
<v Speaker 5>what are you talking about? He said, it's an open audition.

0:46:43.310 --> 0:46:46.180
<v Speaker 5>Anybody in New York can go. So I went the

0:46:46.219 --> 0:46:49.060
<v Speaker 5>next day, got in line at the Royale Theater. Now,

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what it's called now, but it went

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.219
<v Speaker 5>around the block. You know, it was like 900. It

0:46:53.420 --> 0:46:56.940
<v Speaker 5>was a lot. It went around the block. People auditioned.

0:46:57.340 --> 0:46:58.900
<v Speaker 5>When it got to me, there was a guy in

0:46:58.940 --> 0:47:02.140
<v Speaker 5>front of me getting more and more, obviously, nervous that

0:47:02.300 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 5>when they called him out on the stage, he was

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 5>like Mel Brooks, the producer of the movie. He was like,

0:47:07.380 --> 0:47:11.950
<v Speaker 5>we were singing Danny Zuko, I'm all alone at the

0:47:11.989 --> 0:47:17.790
<v Speaker 5>drive-in movie. And he went out there, I know next

0:47:18.390 --> 0:47:21.070
<v Speaker 5>i mean just like just like a movie and i

0:47:21.130 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 5>went out there and i did the little you know

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:28.460
<v Speaker 5>and there was a young woman who was uh probably

0:47:28.540 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 5>an assistant for the casting directors you know for this

0:47:31.739 --> 0:47:34.500
<v Speaker 5>cattle call not saying that they made a redeem finding

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.310
<v Speaker 5>but i think it was just to satisfy equity or

0:47:37.370 --> 0:47:40.070
<v Speaker 5>something and um She said, we're going to want to

0:47:40.110 --> 0:47:40.609
<v Speaker 5>see you again.

0:47:40.650 --> 0:47:41.230
<v Speaker 3>I said, fine.

0:47:41.710 --> 0:47:44.130
<v Speaker 5>And I was walking over to the Winter Garden Theater.

0:47:44.700 --> 0:47:47.299
<v Speaker 5>One of my best friends was stage manager there. I

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.980
<v Speaker 5>wanted to tell him about what I just did. And

0:47:50.020 --> 0:47:52.390
<v Speaker 5>I'm walking down the street and two men in business

0:47:52.410 --> 0:47:54.669
<v Speaker 5>suits kind of jump in front of me and they go,

0:47:55.030 --> 0:47:57.189
<v Speaker 5>are you an actor? I mean, this is how funny

0:47:57.230 --> 0:48:00.430
<v Speaker 5>my life is. Are you an actor? And I said, well, maybe,

0:48:00.450 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's New York. I mean, come on. They said,

0:48:02.900 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 5>we're the casting directors from Greece. We've been following you

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.020
<v Speaker 5>for five blocks and you are Danny Zuko.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:09.419
<v Speaker 8>I mean, guys, you're a little late.

0:48:09.460 --> 0:48:11.660
<v Speaker 5>I just came from the audition. They looked at each

0:48:11.739 --> 0:48:13.589
<v Speaker 5>other and they looked at me at the same time.

0:48:13.610 --> 0:48:16.589
<v Speaker 5>They went, don't take a job. And they were around

0:48:16.630 --> 0:48:20.010
<v Speaker 5>the corner. So it was like Marlo Thomas and that girl.

0:48:20.230 --> 0:48:20.990
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness.

0:48:21.250 --> 0:48:21.810
<v Speaker 3>It was.

0:48:22.010 --> 0:48:24.620
<v Speaker 5>So that was. Life was moving very fast for me.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.420
<v Speaker 1>You know, and talking about moving fast, I can't get

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.420
<v Speaker 1>over how quick this segment has gone by. Well, I mean, Rex,

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:32.819
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to have to have you back on

0:48:32.860 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the radio show once again.

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 5>And I'll tell you all about the overnight success because

0:48:37.020 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 5>when the movie came out the next day, it was bedlam.

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:42.069
<v Speaker 1>I bet it was.

0:48:42.390 --> 0:48:45.010
<v Speaker 5>I was the number one artist at Columbia above Michael

0:48:45.050 --> 0:48:47.810
<v Speaker 5>Jackson and Paul McCartney for a short stat. That's a

0:48:47.850 --> 0:48:48.629
<v Speaker 5>baseball stat.

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.180
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, Rex, I got to thank you

0:48:51.219 --> 0:48:53.990
<v Speaker 1>so much for taking your day today to join us

0:48:54.030 --> 0:48:57.090
<v Speaker 1>here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. You know, in our final moments,

0:48:57.110 --> 0:49:00.690
<v Speaker 1>just very quickly tell our listeners your Facebook, your Instagram,

0:49:00.730 --> 0:49:01.690
<v Speaker 1>how they can follow you.

0:49:02.170 --> 0:49:05.710
<v Speaker 5>Just real Rex Smith at Facebook or whatever. It's just

0:49:05.770 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 5>real Rex Smith. We'll take it Instagram or whatever. Facebook

0:49:09.180 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 5>is mainly what I do. And I also want to

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.969
<v Speaker 5>say that my relationship with the Holly Museum is one

0:49:13.969 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 5>of the greatest relationships I've ever enjoyed. And I want

0:49:17.219 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 5>to thank you for all the wonderful, wonderful moments that

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.300
<v Speaker 5>I've enjoyed in your company and at your fabulous museum.

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.540
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you so much, Rex. That means so much

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.220
<v Speaker 1>to me. And say hello to your beautiful wife, Dr.

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.550
<v Speaker 1>Tracy Lynn. Oh, my goodness. Well, thank you for joining

0:49:31.610 --> 0:49:33.430
<v Speaker 1>us today, Rex. Thank you so much.

0:49:33.710 --> 0:49:34.629
<v Speaker 3>My pleasure.

0:49:35.030 --> 0:49:35.830
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:49:35.950 --> 0:49:36.310
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:49:36.790 --> 0:49:39.570
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's time to take a break. When we return...

0:49:39.650 --> 0:49:42.770
<v Speaker 1>a great friend of the Hollywood Museum's Miss Frida Payne,

0:49:43.170 --> 0:49:45.830
<v Speaker 1>whose rise to fame with her number one hit song,

0:49:45.910 --> 0:49:48.950
<v Speaker 1>Band of Gold, made us all take notice of her,

0:49:49.150 --> 0:49:51.650
<v Speaker 1>and she'll be sharing her personal stories about her career.

0:49:51.910 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures, and I'm

0:49:55.060 --> 0:49:59.140
<v Speaker 1>Danelle Dadigan. We've got lots to talk about. Welcome back.

0:49:59.180 --> 0:50:02.100
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan, and

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.950
<v Speaker 1>tonight's show is all about rediscovering the joy of a

0:50:05.030 --> 0:50:07.890
<v Speaker 1>favorite song and what it gives to us, performed by

0:50:08.010 --> 0:50:11.110
<v Speaker 1>a favorite singer. And with our celebrity guests and singers,

0:50:11.410 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>icons of their time, tonight sharing their own personal stories

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and what their careers continue to mean to them today. Well,

0:50:19.340 --> 0:50:21.860
<v Speaker 1>joining us is a great friend of the Hollywood Museum,

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.270
<v Speaker 1>Miss Frida Payne, whose rise to fame with her number

0:50:25.390 --> 0:50:28.950
<v Speaker 1>one hit song, Band of Gold, made us all take notice.

0:50:29.310 --> 0:50:32.299
<v Speaker 1>Several of her popular songs include Deeper and Deeper, You

0:50:32.340 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Brought the Joy, and the Vietnam-era protest single, Bring the

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.989
<v Speaker 1>Boys Home, which also earned a gold record. Now, Frida

0:50:40.030 --> 0:50:43.830
<v Speaker 1>has released more than 20 albums, including jazz, soul, disco,

0:50:43.969 --> 0:50:47.690
<v Speaker 1>and compilation projects. For more than half a century, Frida

0:50:47.810 --> 0:50:51.750
<v Speaker 1>has enjoyed performing on the concert stage, the theatrical stage,

0:50:52.070 --> 0:50:56.710
<v Speaker 1>in film, and on television. Frida has earned significant honors

0:50:56.770 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>throughout her career, solidifying her legacy as one of the

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.529
<v Speaker 1>most enduring of voices. of her era. And I just

0:51:04.550 --> 0:51:06.609
<v Speaker 1>got to share with all of you listeners, did you

0:51:06.670 --> 0:51:10.009
<v Speaker 1>know Frida was named a Dame of Justice of the

0:51:10.130 --> 0:51:14.130
<v Speaker 1>Order of St. John of Jerusalem in 1974? She was

0:51:14.210 --> 0:51:17.310
<v Speaker 1>inducted into the Rhythm and Blues Music Hall of Fame

0:51:17.410 --> 0:51:22.870
<v Speaker 1>in 2017. And she received the Lifetime Achievement and Legacy

0:51:22.930 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Award from the Women's Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2023.

0:51:25.710 --> 0:51:30.410
<v Speaker 1>And Frida has even, well, She's had one of her

0:51:30.510 --> 0:51:34.170
<v Speaker 1>fabulous concert gowns on display at the Hollywood Museum.

0:51:34.510 --> 0:51:34.870
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:51:34.989 --> 0:51:40.100
<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, Frida. Welcome once again to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Oh, hi, Frida.

0:51:40.140 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>How are you?

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.910
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm just doing great. Thank you.

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:46.820
<v Speaker 2>What a wonderful introduction.

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you deserve it and so much more. I'm

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.219
<v Speaker 1>telling you. We love having you with us at the

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:56.010
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Museum and here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Well, tell us, Frida,

0:51:56.290 --> 0:51:58.030
<v Speaker 1>how did you get your start?

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.069
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm from Detroit, Michigan. I was born

0:52:02.130 --> 0:52:03.070
<v Speaker 2>and reared there.

0:52:03.530 --> 0:52:05.290
<v Speaker 10>And kind of, you know.

0:52:05.370 --> 0:52:08.350
<v Speaker 2>I just sort of like, you know, I started singing

0:52:08.430 --> 0:52:12.240
<v Speaker 2>around town when I was like around 13 years old.

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:17.230
<v Speaker 2>I think I entered a talent contest. That was in Detroit.

0:52:17.270 --> 0:52:21.700
<v Speaker 2>It was a local talent contest on television. And I

0:52:21.820 --> 0:52:25.819
<v Speaker 2>won the contest. And that gave me that that kind

0:52:25.860 --> 0:52:29.660
<v Speaker 2>of like gave me like a certification of like, oh, wow,

0:52:29.739 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I must be good.

0:52:30.739 --> 0:52:32.890
<v Speaker 8>I won a talent contest, you know.

0:52:33.739 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I said, maybe I, maybe I, you know, I was

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.529
<v Speaker 2>still like around, I think I just was either 12

0:52:39.530 --> 0:52:42.489
<v Speaker 2>or I was 12 or 13. And then I got

0:52:42.550 --> 0:52:46.669
<v Speaker 2>the guts to audition for the talent show that was

0:52:46.810 --> 0:52:48.470
<v Speaker 2>in New York, you know.

0:52:49.370 --> 0:52:52.890
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the Ted Mack. Ted Mack.

0:52:52.950 --> 0:52:53.270
<v Speaker 8>Yes.

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:57.770
<v Speaker 2>Ted Mack. Yeah, Ted Mack Amateur Hour. I auditioned for it.

0:52:58.260 --> 0:53:00.980
<v Speaker 2>They were coming through Detroit and they had an audition.

0:53:01.420 --> 0:53:02.060
<v Speaker 8>I auditioned.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I was accepted.

0:53:03.980 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 8>And then they flew me and my mother out to

0:53:07.180 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 8>New York to be on the show. I was on

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:11.020
<v Speaker 8>the show.

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't win first place. I came in second place.

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:19.250
<v Speaker 2>But that still gave me, as a result of doing

0:53:19.310 --> 0:53:23.070
<v Speaker 2>that show and coming in second place, I was shocked.

0:53:23.489 --> 0:53:27.049
<v Speaker 2>Because like a week later, I got a write-up in

0:53:27.170 --> 0:53:32.649
<v Speaker 2>Jet Magazine. Wow. See, at the time, Jet Magazine, which

0:53:32.790 --> 0:53:37.170
<v Speaker 2>emanated out of Chicago, Johnson &amp; Johnson Publications, they're the

0:53:37.250 --> 0:53:41.820
<v Speaker 2>same publishing company that did the Ebony Magazine.

0:53:41.980 --> 0:53:42.500
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:53:42.580 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 8>You know, remember the Ebony.

0:53:44.140 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Magazines, the Jet Magazines, the Black Stars magazines.

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.750
<v Speaker 8>And I was like flabbergasted.

0:53:51.810 --> 0:53:53.710
<v Speaker 10>I said, oh, they know about me.

0:53:53.770 --> 0:53:55.390
<v Speaker 8>You know, they wrote about me.

0:53:55.870 --> 0:53:58.670
<v Speaker 2>Because this is a national magazine.

0:53:58.690 --> 0:54:01.460
<v Speaker 1>But of course they knew about you. Oh, my goodness.

0:54:02.790 --> 0:54:06.310
<v Speaker 2>And back in those days in the 60s, to get

0:54:06.370 --> 0:54:09.750
<v Speaker 2>a write-up in Jet, it was like a big deal.

0:54:09.989 --> 0:54:13.130
<v Speaker 2>And then Ebony, you know, that was even a bigger deal.

0:54:13.190 --> 0:54:16.630
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, one thing led to another, and then Barry

0:54:16.670 --> 0:54:21.509
<v Speaker 2>Gordy heard about me. By the time I turned 14,

0:54:21.510 --> 0:54:22.489
<v Speaker 2>he heard about me.

0:54:22.510 --> 0:54:25.989
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness, 14 years old? Wait a minute, 14

0:54:25.989 --> 0:54:26.330
<v Speaker 1>years old?

0:54:27.750 --> 0:54:28.110
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:54:28.489 --> 0:54:28.790
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:54:28.850 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, this was like probably, God, this was like in

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:36.020
<v Speaker 2>the early sixties and he wanted to sign me. He

0:54:36.060 --> 0:54:37.819
<v Speaker 2>hadn't even formed Motown yet.

0:54:38.140 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 8>There was no Motown.

0:54:39.820 --> 0:54:42.950
<v Speaker 2>He was just getting started out as a songwriter and

0:54:42.989 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 2>a producer and, uh, in Detroit. And, uh, I think

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.660
<v Speaker 2>he was just getting the Supremes together. I think there

0:54:53.140 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 2>was no Supremes yet or anything or Four Tops back then.

0:54:58.140 --> 0:55:01.710
<v Speaker 2>But I do remember Four Tops because I worked with

0:55:01.750 --> 0:55:06.049
<v Speaker 2>Four Tops before they even got signed to Motown and

0:55:06.110 --> 0:55:07.810
<v Speaker 2>before they ever had a hit.

0:55:08.130 --> 0:55:09.410
<v Speaker 8>I worked with the Four Tops.

0:55:09.770 --> 0:55:11.450
<v Speaker 5>They're all deceased now, by the way.

0:55:11.489 --> 0:55:12.410
<v Speaker 8>They're all deceased.

0:55:12.650 --> 0:55:15.650
<v Speaker 2>But that's how I got my start was being on

0:55:15.710 --> 0:55:20.779
<v Speaker 2>talent contests. One was local in Detroit, and then the

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:24.220
<v Speaker 2>other one I went to, Ted Mack, that was national,

0:55:24.980 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and the rest was history. And you know the funny thing? Today,

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:34.310
<v Speaker 2>that is still the rule. We have these talent contests

0:55:34.410 --> 0:55:39.390
<v Speaker 2>on TV, and we see artists that are winning these contests,

0:55:39.469 --> 0:55:42.590
<v Speaker 2>and then they become very famous. Like, look at Jennifer

0:55:42.630 --> 0:55:43.250
<v Speaker 2>Hudson today.

0:55:43.489 --> 0:55:47.030
<v Speaker 1>Very good point. You're absolutely right. Yes.

0:55:47.130 --> 0:55:51.129
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? Talent contest winner. And, you know,

0:55:51.450 --> 0:55:56.890
<v Speaker 2>probably a lot of other people as well. Fantasia, talent contest.

0:55:56.300 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 8>Winner, you know.

0:55:57.620 --> 0:56:00.779
<v Speaker 2>And these talent contests have been a great platform to

0:56:00.820 --> 0:56:04.460
<v Speaker 2>get discovered and get out there. Also, because of the

0:56:04.540 --> 0:56:09.279
<v Speaker 2>social media, which was nonexistent back in the, you know,

0:56:09.340 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 2>the 50s and 60s, I don't think social media got

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.900
<v Speaker 2>to be popular until, what would you say, the 90s?

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:21.930
<v Speaker 1>That's very early in social media, but yes, in the 90s,

0:56:21.940 --> 0:56:22.540
<v Speaker 1>you're right.

0:56:22.820 --> 0:56:27.029
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and as a result, people put, I'll call it

0:56:27.050 --> 0:56:30.299
<v Speaker 2>an audition tape where they're singing or they're acting. On

0:56:30.380 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 2>social media where everybody, you know, if you've got Facebook

0:56:34.700 --> 0:56:39.100
<v Speaker 2>or Instagram or whatever, you know, and you can see people.

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.900
<v Speaker 2>I've seen people singing, like, you know, just young people,

0:56:42.980 --> 0:56:46.380
<v Speaker 2>people I'd never heard of before. And I'm saying to myself, oh,

0:56:46.420 --> 0:56:49.070
<v Speaker 2>my God, this person is really good.

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.710
<v Speaker 8>Yes. They're really talented, you know.

0:56:51.770 --> 0:56:52.770
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's that change.

0:56:52.790 --> 0:56:55.189
<v Speaker 10>Somebody needs to discover them.

0:56:55.210 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:56:56.850 --> 0:56:59.810
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, talking about discovering and whatnot, I mean,

0:56:59.830 --> 0:57:03.509
<v Speaker 1>I think about it, you with your early recordings, you know,

0:57:03.630 --> 0:57:07.030
<v Speaker 1>that with the early jazz, the soul, the late 70s

0:57:07.090 --> 0:57:11.049
<v Speaker 1>disco under Motown and Invictus record labels.

0:57:11.180 --> 0:57:11.380
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:57:11.820 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You've had 17 or more primary studio albums and, I

0:57:15.860 --> 0:57:21.820
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like 97 or 100 catalog songs. And when

0:57:21.930 --> 0:57:26.370
<v Speaker 1>singles were popular, like 30 or more main singles. My gosh.

0:57:26.650 --> 0:57:29.550
<v Speaker 1>So I'm thinking about all the songs that you've recorded.

0:57:29.970 --> 0:57:33.170
<v Speaker 1>Is there a song that is your personal favorite?

0:57:33.670 --> 0:57:37.330
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, everybody would expect me to say Band

0:57:37.370 --> 0:57:42.470
<v Speaker 2>of Gold, but no. You know, there's so many songs

0:57:42.850 --> 0:57:43.750
<v Speaker 2>that I've done.

0:57:46.140 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 8>There is a song that I recorded.

0:57:48.500 --> 0:57:51.620
<v Speaker 2>It's a ballad, and I really like it a lot

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's kind of universal. It's called Here's to Life.

0:57:55.500 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>It was written by Artie Butler and Phyllis Molinari. Artie

0:58:00.980 --> 0:58:04.580
<v Speaker 2>did the music, and Phyllis Molinari did the lyrics. It's

0:58:04.820 --> 0:58:08.670
<v Speaker 2>Here's to Life. I think it's a touching song because

0:58:08.770 --> 0:58:13.190
<v Speaker 2>it's so philosophical. It's a great song for the spirit.

0:58:13.630 --> 0:58:15.990
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you're about. I mean, I've got to say,

0:58:16.070 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that is exactly what you're about. As we've gotten to

0:58:18.580 --> 0:58:21.340
<v Speaker 1>know each other through the past few years, I mean,

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:25.500
<v Speaker 1>you are so full of joy and your spirit, you know,

0:58:26.060 --> 0:58:31.270
<v Speaker 1>just comes out and everyone recognizes that. Wow. So, you know,

0:58:31.310 --> 0:58:33.130
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you about Band of Gold,

0:58:33.170 --> 0:58:35.170
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just going to ask you and you can answer.

0:58:35.190 --> 0:58:37.950
<v Speaker 1>You know, over the decades, when you were performing live

0:58:38.250 --> 0:58:41.380
<v Speaker 1>on stage in concert, like we don't know, but maybe

0:58:41.470 --> 0:58:45.740
<v Speaker 1>I don't. What song gets the biggest reaction from your fans?

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:50.380
<v Speaker 2>Well, believe it or not, when I do shows, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care how great the arrangement is or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end or at the very end, I always

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<v Speaker 2>wind up doing Band of Gold.

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<v Speaker 1>And we love you for it.

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<v Speaker 8>And maybe Bring the Boys Home.

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<v Speaker 2>But Band of Gold always gets the reaction.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course. Because that's sort of like.

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<v Speaker 2>my signature. That's when you say Band of Gold, you

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<v Speaker 2>say free to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>In one breath.

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<v Speaker 8>That's my calling card.

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<v Speaker 2>Band of Gold is like my calling card. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do so much because, see, Band of Gold is like

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<v Speaker 2>a pop R &amp; B song.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm so much more than that. I'm a jazz singer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not going to brag on myself, but

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<v Speaker 2>I sing like Ella Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 8>I scat, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I do cabaret. You know, I do cabaret materials. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just... You know, I do Broadway material. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I cover the gamut. I'm not a one-trick pony.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you certainly are not. And I just have to say, Frida,

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<v Speaker 1>this segment has gone by so quick, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>been a true pleasure having you, Frida Payne, here on

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us today. And in our final moment together, just tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone your Instagram or Facebook account so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>follow you.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, my Instagram. You know what?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know what it is, how to.

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<v Speaker 8>Get on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I have to let you know, I'm performing at

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<v Speaker 2>the Catalina Bar and Grill, September the 26th in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's an 8.30 show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I'm having an opening act. Her name is

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<v Speaker 2>Thomasina Gross. And she does a spot-on impersonation of Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Eartha Kitt, who was also a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, be darned. I went to school with Eartha Kitt's daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just have to thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us today, Miss Frida Payne, here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Frida.

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<v Speaker 8>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And you're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Danelle Dadigan. And when we return, we'll be speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>Lorna Luft, the daughter of the legendary Judy Garland and

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood film producer Sid Luft. sharing stories about her career,

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<v Speaker 1>along with some never-before-heard stories from her childhood. I can

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<v Speaker 1>hardly wait to hear how Lorna Love got her start

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, that show business. Well, we'll soon find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned to hear more of Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Dadigan, and

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<v Speaker 1>tonight's show is all about rediscovering the joy of our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite songs and what they give to us, performed by

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite singers, with some becoming icons of the era.

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<v Speaker 1>And joining us is the star of stage, screen, television,

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<v Speaker 1>live concerts, and a fabulous cabaret singer, the Emmy Award

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<v Speaker 1>winner Lorna Luft. Lorna is the daughter of the legendary

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<v Speaker 1>singer Judy Garland and the Hollywood film producer Sid Luft.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Lorna star a Broadway stage and national theatrical

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<v Speaker 1>tours on the big screen, including Grease, Where the Boys Are,

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<v Speaker 1>on television. You know, she starred as nurse Kirby Legler

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<v Speaker 1>on CBS's Trapper John M.D. How many of you remember

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<v Speaker 1>that That was for seven seasons. And of course, in

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<v Speaker 1>live concerts today, Lorna enjoys performing with her evenings of cabaret,

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<v Speaker 1>performing to sold-out audiences every time. You know, going back

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<v Speaker 1>in time, one of Lorna's most notable and widely recognized

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<v Speaker 1>recordings is her 1995 virtual duet of Have Yourself a

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Little Christmas with her mother, Judy Garland. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorna's concert special, Songs My Mother Taught Me, was filmed

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<v Speaker 1>for television and was a major success. Miss Luft is

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<v Speaker 1>an Emmy-winning producer of the miniseries adaptation of her memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>Me and My Shadows. Lorna Luft cemented her place in

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<v Speaker 1>America's entertainment industry as both a performer and as a

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<v Speaker 1>preserver of her family's musical legacy. Well, welcome to Hollywood's

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<v Speaker 1>Hidden Treasures. Hi, Lorna. How are you?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 10>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am great. I am great. Thank you for letting

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<v Speaker 1>me say all of this about you. It's so important.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, thank you for saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our listeners love to learn more and more and

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<v Speaker 1>put all the pieces together of what they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>already know, but now it's all organized. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, you know, Lorna, today you are recognized

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<v Speaker 1>for your extensive career on stage. And I keep thinking

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<v Speaker 1>from Once Upon a Time, Grease 2, and the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show Trapper John, M.D. on the concert stage. You're an

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy-nominated documentarian and the daughter of the legendary entertainer Judy

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<v Speaker 1>Garland and Hollywood movie producer Sid Luft. So tell us,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the moment or turning point that you knew

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<v Speaker 1>the business that showbiz was going to be your career path?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did your mother's career help you to make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision to start your own journey on your own

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<v Speaker 1>career path? How did it happen?

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<v Speaker 10>My feeling about that is that if you come from

1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:07.080
<v Speaker 10>a family of doctors, somebody's going to be a doctor.

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<v Speaker 10>And if you come from a family of lawyers, somebody's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be a lawyer. I came from a family

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<v Speaker 10>of show business, and I didn't do anything unusual. I

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<v Speaker 10>went into the family business. So I grew up in it.

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<v Speaker 10>I stayed in it and I respect it and I really,

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<v Speaker 10>really love it. So I don't think that I did

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<v Speaker 10>anything unusual. I don't think that I did anything that

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<v Speaker 10>people would say, oh, my goodness, that's really strange. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm proud and I'm honored that I am a working actor.

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<v Speaker 10>I am a working entertainer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you are.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's all you can ask for right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are. So when did you first get your start?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it in your mom's TV show or how did.

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<v Speaker 8>It start for you?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, I was on my mom's TV show

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<v Speaker 10>on a Christmas television special that she did on her

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<v Speaker 10>weekly special. And it sort of gave me a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit of the bug. But I also loved the rehearsal process.

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<v Speaker 10>I loved watching it all come together. I loved all

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<v Speaker 10>of that. And then when it got to be my turn,

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<v Speaker 10>I just all of a sudden said, this is a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of fun. And the greatest thing with, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>being on her show was I got to get out

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<v Speaker 10>of school for a week. Wow. So it was really great.

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<v Speaker 10>And I really loved working with the choreographer. I loved

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<v Speaker 10>working with the director. I loved watching all of it

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<v Speaker 10>come together. And that's the one thing I learned and

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<v Speaker 10>I was able to learn from the best. And that

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<v Speaker 10>is something that I treasure to this very, very day

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<v Speaker 10>of being around and schooled and just soaking in the

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<v Speaker 10>best performers and best directors and best producers and best

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<v Speaker 10>people ever. to work with in this business. And when

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<v Speaker 10>I decided that that's what I really wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 10>I got my very first Broadway show. And I moved

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<v Speaker 10>to New York and the show was Promises Promises. to

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<v Speaker 10>work with Burt Bacharach and Hal David and Neil Simon.

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<v Speaker 10>And I thought this.

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<v Speaker 8>Is what I worked really hard to do that.

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<v Speaker 10>And I put myself, you know, through acting school, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>after my mom passed away and I moved to New York.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm I guess if you want to call me

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<v Speaker 10>a Broadway baby. Yeah, that's what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 10>And I live in New York City and I am

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<v Speaker 10>a proud member of the Broadway community. And we are

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<v Speaker 10>a community and we show up for one another. And

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<v Speaker 10>I'm so pleased to be a member of the theater

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<v Speaker 10>that I can't begin to tell you. And I liked

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<v Speaker 10>California and I was there for many years and I

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<v Speaker 10>had my children and I raised my children there. But

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<v Speaker 10>something always said, you got to go home to New York.

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<v Speaker 10>And I did. So I live here now.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I got to ask you, you know, what I

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<v Speaker 1>think many of our listeners, they're learning on today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>how many great performers began as backup or background vocalists

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<v Speaker 1>for other agents. I mean, Melissa Manchester started with Bette Midler,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Tennille for the Beach Boys. And Lorna, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how many of our listeners are aware that you

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<v Speaker 1>were a background vocalist for the rock band Blondie in

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<v Speaker 1>their 1979 album, Eat to the Beat. Tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get this gig? Did you audition?

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<v Speaker 8>What happened?

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<v Speaker 10>It was way before Blondie really, really, really hit. And

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<v Speaker 10>each of the beat was being made by a wonderful

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<v Speaker 10>producer by the name of Mike Chapman. And Mike and

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<v Speaker 10>I knew each other and it was all being done

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<v Speaker 10>in New York. And he called me up and he

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<v Speaker 10>said to me, he said, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 10>come down to Electric Lute Ladies Studio? and sing some backup.

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<v Speaker 10>And I said, sure, that sounds like fun. He said,

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<v Speaker 10>all right, show up tomorrow. Gave me a time. I

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<v Speaker 10>knew where Electric Lady was down in the village. I said, great.

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<v Speaker 10>So I showed up at the studio and I met

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<v Speaker 10>Debbie and she was so wonderful and so kind and inviting.

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<v Speaker 10>And I mean, it's just somebody that you feel you

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<v Speaker 10>already know. I mean, she was just really wonderful. And

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<v Speaker 10>she introduced me to all of, you know, the band

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<v Speaker 10>of Blondie. And then I saw this sort of vision

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<v Speaker 10>in a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>And she had a lot of sort of hair that

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<v Speaker 10>was piled on top of her head. And she had

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<v Speaker 10>these big sunglasses on and then she put them on

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<v Speaker 10>the top of her head and she came over to

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<v Speaker 10>me and she said, hi, I'm Ellie Greenwich. And I

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<v Speaker 10>had a heart attack. And I said, the Ellie Greenwich?

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<v Speaker 10>And she said, well, I was when I woke up

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<v Speaker 10>this morning. And I said, oh my God. I said,

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<v Speaker 10>oh my God. And I started really, really having an

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<v Speaker 10>attack on of just pure fandom. And I said, you

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<v Speaker 10>wrote all of my songs from a teenager. You were

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<v Speaker 10>my teenage years. And I started listing all of these songs.

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<v Speaker 10>And she said to me, OK. She said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>She said, listen, we got to do this. You want

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<v Speaker 10>to have lunch tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 8>And I said, yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I would really like that a lot. So I go

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<v Speaker 10>to meet Ellie and we sit down and she says

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<v Speaker 10>to me, OK, let's talk. And I said, OK, Phil.

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<v Speaker 8>Spector, spill it.

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<v Speaker 7>And all of a sudden she looked at me and

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<v Speaker 7>she goes, OK, your mom, spill it. And we started

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<v Speaker 7>to laugh so hard and we became really, really good friends.

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<v Speaker 7>And Ellie Greenwich was one of the great, great friends

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<v Speaker 7>that I got to know and I got to tell

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<v Speaker 7>her how much I loved her from Eat to the Beat.

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<v Speaker 7>And so whenever I think of my time, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>with Debbie and all of that, I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 7>and I hear, you know, everybody loves that album. And

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<v Speaker 7>when they started to play it, I thought, that's me

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<v Speaker 7>and Ellie Greenwich. And I was really, that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>that was how I think about that album with such

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<v Speaker 7>joy and such love and such respect. And I was

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<v Speaker 7>so pleased and thrilled when Blondie became the unbelievable band

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<v Speaker 7>that we all knew because we were there before. We

1:10:29.180 --> 1:10:32.340
<v Speaker 7>all knew it was going to be because Debbie was

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<v Speaker 7>an icon and one of the first bands real rock

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<v Speaker 7>and roll singers that really, I mean, she sort of

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<v Speaker 7>made a generation say, I like myself like this.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's who she was. And she is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>she's just, she's Debbie Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, Lorna, we're just having too much

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<v Speaker 1>fun listening to your stories. I mean, can you stay

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<v Speaker 1>on for one more segment to close out our show?

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<v Speaker 10>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Fabulous. Well, it's time we have to take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>station break, and when we return, we'll continue our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Lorna Luft, star of stage, screen, television, and live concerts,

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<v Speaker 1>and her fabulous cabaret shows. Stay tuned to hear more

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood's hidden treasures. I'm Danelle Daddigan, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>lots to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywood's

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<v Speaker 1>Hidden Treasures. And joining us once again is Lorna Luft,

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<v Speaker 1>the critically acclaimed star of stage, screen, television, concerts, and

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<v Speaker 1>she sings fabulous cabaret. Well, hi, Lorna. Welcome back once again.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, well, thank you. You know, Danelle, we were talking

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<v Speaker 10>about how I met Ellie Greenwich, and I wanted people

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<v Speaker 10>to know about the songs that she wrote. She was

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<v Speaker 10>really responsible for all of the real female rock and

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<v Speaker 10>roll band songs. I mean, she wrote Leader of the Pack,

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<v Speaker 10>and she wrote so many songs for Darlene Love and

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<v Speaker 10>the Ronettes and the Crystals and all of those incredible songs.

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<v Speaker 10>you know, singers. And she was so historic. So when

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<v Speaker 10>I met her, that's why I wanted to say on

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<v Speaker 10>your show that I was really such a huge fan

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<v Speaker 10>because they were such a part of my teenage years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it sounds like the two of you

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<v Speaker 1>just hit it off. And I just have this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that a great friendship grew out of this.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it did. But you know something? I have such

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<v Speaker 10>a great love for songwriters and especially lyricists because sometimes

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<v Speaker 10>I really do feel that lyricists get the short end

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<v Speaker 10>of the stick. Okay, everybody knows the composer, but the lyricist,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, the songs don't, you know, you don't hear

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<v Speaker 10>a song and start to sing la la la la la.

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<v Speaker 10>There are words and people.

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<v Speaker 8>Write the words.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm such a fan of lyricists. And I'm lucky

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<v Speaker 10>enough to have a residency here in New York at

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<v Speaker 10>the Laurie Beachman Theater. Yes, let's talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just amazing. Share this with our listeners. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fabulous.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I do a show. There are four of us

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<v Speaker 10>and we rotate every day. And it's Andrea McArdle, who,

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<v Speaker 10>of course, was the original Annie. Lillias White, who is just,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, she's just incredible. Donna McKechnie, who we all

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<v Speaker 10>know from all the Broadway shows that she has done

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<v Speaker 10>and myself. And we rotate doing a show once a

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<v Speaker 10>month at the Laurie Beachman Theater. And, of course, Laurie

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<v Speaker 10>Beachman was one of the great Broadway icons that we've

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<v Speaker 10>had in the theater. And there's a wonderful theater named

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<v Speaker 10>after her. And we do shows once a month. And

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<v Speaker 10>so whenever it's my turn, as I say, up at bat.

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<v Speaker 10>I try to do a show every month that is

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<v Speaker 10>something new, okay? I try to bring into mind not

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<v Speaker 10>only the things that I like, but things that I

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<v Speaker 10>know people want. Introduce them with the story of why

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<v Speaker 10>I'm singing them and because they mean something to my

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<v Speaker 10>life and, you know, the history I came from and

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<v Speaker 10>the friendships that were... My mom's friends that were in

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<v Speaker 10>my house. And I just think it's just personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 10>Things like that. So, yeah, I've got a show coming

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<v Speaker 10>up September 16th at the Laurie Beachman.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. So I'm really, you know, doing that. And I'm

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<v Speaker 10>thrilled to, as I said, you know, see new audiences

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<v Speaker 10>in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's so exciting because your audiences, they

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<v Speaker 1>come in, they know who your mother was, who your

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<v Speaker 1>father was, all of the family friends, what type of

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<v Speaker 1>a life you must have had when you were growing

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<v Speaker 1>up or in their mind's eye they have envisioned, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to ask you the question over

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<v Speaker 1>the decades, what song when you sing it in live

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<v Speaker 1>concert or in one of your cabaret shows gets the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest reaction from your fans when you perform it?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it's different every show. It really is because

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<v Speaker 10>I try to put in something that, you know, is

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<v Speaker 10>from one of the Broadway shows that I've done. I've tried,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I've been lucky enough to do shows like,

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<v Speaker 10>my goodness, well, I started, of course, on Promises, but

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<v Speaker 10>then I was able to do Guys And then I

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<v Speaker 10>was able to do Irving Berlin's White Christmas that I've

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<v Speaker 10>done on and off for 15 years. And it's just

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<v Speaker 10>the songs that mean something not only to me, but

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<v Speaker 10>I know they mean something to the audience. And I

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<v Speaker 10>always think of them first at the audience. And I

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<v Speaker 10>think to myself, this song would really go great in

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<v Speaker 10>this spot. My husband and I, who's my musical director,

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<v Speaker 10>we sit and we really, we really go through, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of music. And we put a show together

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<v Speaker 10>that has a beginning, a middle.

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<v Speaker 2>And an end.

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<v Speaker 10>Because I think it's a real art to put cabaret

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<v Speaker 10>shows together.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly is. And you are so successful at this.

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<v Speaker 10>But it's because I was taught and I was friendly.

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<v Speaker 10>And I grew up in a time of something that people,

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<v Speaker 10>we don't have it anymore. And it's called the variety show.

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<v Speaker 10>And we don't have it anymore. And I got to

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<v Speaker 10>work with people like Ken and Mitzi Welch, who wrote

1:16:05.380 --> 1:16:08.040
<v Speaker 10>the Carol Burnett shows. And I got to work with

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<v Speaker 10>and I watched them and they were able to help

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<v Speaker 10>me learn about how to put a show together and

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<v Speaker 10>how to do that. Because my feeling is when you

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<v Speaker 10>put a cabaret show on or any kind of show

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<v Speaker 10>where only it's you on stage. You are standing there

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<v Speaker 10>practically with no clothes on because it's only you. And

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<v Speaker 10>in every other genre, and if somebody comes up and says, well,

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<v Speaker 10>I wasn't really thrilled with that, you can say, I

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<v Speaker 10>didn't write it. I didn't do it. I didn't produce it.

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<v Speaker 10>But not when you're out there all by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And people are scared.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I just want to jump in and say

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<v Speaker 1>that our listeners are really getting a tutorial today, a

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<v Speaker 1>primer on an education on what it takes to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up on stage and command the entire stage to yourself

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<v Speaker 1>doing your own show. It's just extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but look at where I came from, Janelle. Look

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<v Speaker 10>at my mom. I mean, she was, you know, she

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<v Speaker 10>coddled out on a stage when she was two and

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<v Speaker 10>a half. And she knew how to command a stage.

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<v Speaker 10>And she, I watched her and I got to work

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<v Speaker 10>with her and I got to know how to do

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<v Speaker 10>that and rehearse and do all of that. And I'm

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<v Speaker 10>so lucky. I'm really lucky that I have that legendary family.

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<v Speaker 10>and had that much talent. And God only knows, there's

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<v Speaker 10>never going to be another one of my mom. But

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<v Speaker 10>to everyone else, she was their icon. She was their legend.

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<v Speaker 10>She was, you know, so many things. But she was

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<v Speaker 10>my mom. I just have to say that when it

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<v Speaker 10>was funny because I went to the opening at Sphere

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<v Speaker 10>of Wizard of Oz.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 10>It's magnificent. And everyone came out and said, what was

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<v Speaker 10>that like for you? And I said, it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 10>It was great. And I know that she would have

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<v Speaker 10>loved this and this new technology and what they can

1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:15.180
<v Speaker 10>do and how because I Wizard had more technology and

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<v Speaker 10>it moved forward. So she would have loved all of this.

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<v Speaker 10>So I mean, that's when you ask me what my

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<v Speaker 10>favorite song is, it really depends on where I'm singing,

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<v Speaker 10>what I'm singing and who I'm singing for.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. I hear you loud and clear. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to say, I cannot believe this segment

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<v Speaker 1>has gone through so quick once again. I really have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you back and it should just be The

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<v Speaker 1>two of us chit-chatting. It's going to be a fabulous show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you. We all heard it.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you once again, Lorna Luft, for joining us

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<v Speaker 1>on tonight's show. It's been a real pleasure having you

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<v Speaker 1>here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So in our final moments, why don't you share with

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners how they can follow you?

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<v Speaker 10>You can follow me on LornaLuft.com.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's easy. And they're going to see you in

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<v Speaker 1>New York in September.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 10>And October and November and December.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to catch one of those shows. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fabulous.

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<v Speaker 10>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a real pleasure having you here today. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned so much. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you, Lorna.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my goodness. Well, you know, I love tonight's stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight was amazing. I enjoyed hearing from our friends Dionne Warwick,

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<v Speaker 1>Inglebert Humperdinck, Tony Tennille, Rex Smith, Frida Payne, and Lorna Luft.

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<v Speaker 1>What we learned from Miss Luft, oh my goodness. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just loved everything they had to say. I mean,

1:19:36.740 --> 1:19:41.120
<v Speaker 1>their personal stories and their remembrances, some never-before-heard stories from

1:19:41.200 --> 1:19:45.740
<v Speaker 1>early in their careers, they were certainly enlightening and entertaining. So,

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<v Speaker 1>to all of our listeners, I have to ask, What

1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was your favorite story? Well, before we sign off this evening,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you all, come visit us at the

1:19:54.410 --> 1:19:57.830
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Museum and the Historic Max Factor Building. To learn more,

1:19:58.150 --> 1:20:02.089
<v Speaker 1>just visit us at thehollywoodmuseum.com. You know we have 10,000

1:20:02.090 --> 1:20:05.850
<v Speaker 1>real showbiz treasures, and there's something for everyone here. at

1:20:05.870 --> 1:20:09.310
<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Museum in the historic Max Factor building. This

1:20:09.450 --> 1:20:12.410
<v Speaker 1>evening here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures once again has just

1:20:12.490 --> 1:20:14.990
<v Speaker 1>flown by. And I want to thank all of you

1:20:15.060 --> 1:20:17.939
<v Speaker 1>listeners for joining us this evening. All of us here

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<v Speaker 1>on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures certainly enjoyed hearing some fascinating stories

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<v Speaker 1>from our celebrity guests, well-known award-winning singers, icons, and entertainment professionals. Remember,

1:20:30.060 --> 1:20:35.210
<v Speaker 1>stay safe, stay strong, and stay well. I have enjoyed

1:20:35.290 --> 1:20:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my time with you. Be sure to tune in next

1:20:38.020 --> 1:20:41.400
<v Speaker 1>week to discover more of Hollywood's hidden treasures with me,

1:20:41.760 --> 1:20:46.010
<v Speaker 1>Danelle Dadigan, and some of Hollywood's finest right here on

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<v Speaker 1>Talk Radio 790 KABC.