1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Great to talk to Kylon Mills, and we'll talk to 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Todd Usak coming up in just a bit. So this show, 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, it has flown by here on 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: a Thursday. And then we got some evening baseball giants 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: back at Oracle taken on the Mets. Get to watch 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: a little Robbie Ray. It's all happening here in April. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: You know what else happens in early April. That is 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: the Final Four, and we're gonna find out who the 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: men's and women's tournament champions are coming up. So we 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: got a really short segment here, but I gotta run 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: my favorite fun fact about you guys. So I learned 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: this yesterday in Jordan's Furniture, which is a store in 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Connecticut somewhere. I think this article came out of New Haven. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: I don't know where exactly the store is. All I 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: know is that there was a furniture store who decided 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: they were going to do a massive sale if both 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Yukon's men's and women's basketball team made the championship game, 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: not won the championship made the championship game, so the 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: customer's got about fifty million dollars in furniture, you know, mattresses, beds, 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: all that, and it's a make the Finals promotion, so 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now, Krug, I'm like, yeah, the 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: women's team's gonna be in the championship game. They're probably 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna win the championship. And the men's team all they 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 1: gotta do after that miracle following the epic choke by Duke, they. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Just gotta beat your ALINAI. And we got a problem 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: here on our furniture store. 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I'm not banking on that. 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 4: I think Connectic Connecticut, Connecticut is not very good. 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: You know. 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: I'm I'm not a big Connecticut fan. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm I don't know this year. 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: I saw the Johnnies beat them pretty good recently, and 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: I just don't I'm not a I think Alna is 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: gonna win that game. It's a line I minus one 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: and a half. But I like the aline I to 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: win that game by like ten. 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Illinois favored in this one, I know, Wow, Okay. 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: I want to have and I think they'll win by 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: more like ten. 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, they've been hot and gotta give it 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: to him right there. So no, it'll be fantastic. And 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean i gotta say this tournament has been way, way, 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: way better than it was last year. You can say 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: there's been a little bit of chalk, and I don't 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: say more Choka was all ones in the final four 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: last year. There has been a lot of relative chock. 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, you still got a 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: nine seed in Iowa getting to the Elite eight. Texas 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: was a first four team that had Purdue on the 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: ropes with two players injured and playing on one foot. 51 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: Like, we've gotten a lot of drama. 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: We had nothing last year like the Kentucky Santa Clara 53 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: ending or the Vanderbilt Nebraska ending when the half court 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: was halfway down and out and then Duke. I mean, 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: it's never not funny to me when they blow a 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: game like that. And also Dan Hurley, Like we talked 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: about this a little bit with Marcus Thompson when I 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: was with JD. 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: The reaction he had where he. 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Just kind of has the jacket half off and he 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: gets in the REVS face. I think the dude just 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: like blacked out, And like a lot of coaches, it's 63 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: not just unique to him. He's kind of got a 64 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: screw loose in there somewhere and sometimes that's what makes 65 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: you great too. 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: He kind of has a screw loose. 67 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 4: This guy passed up a job to work for the 68 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: He could have been the coach of the Lakers. In Malibu, 69 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: he's living in he's living in stores. I mean, come on, 70 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 4: he's living There's no I've been to both. There's no comparison. 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: Nobody leaves Malibu and says, you know what, I just 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: got to get to Bristol. 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 3: I gotta get to stores. I gotta get to No, 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: they do not. 75 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we get a little Dan Hurley action here 76 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: in your final four. It's Yukon and Illinois and then 77 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Michigan. And I know everyone myself included, is kind 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: of tabbing. Arizona Michigan is that quasi national championship game. 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: But you still got to play the games. And maybe 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: there's also the nuanced theory out there. Krew, they're gonna 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: beat up on each other so badly that they're gonna 82 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: be tired from Monday's game in the championship. 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Well, Illinois. 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: Illinois can flat out shoot it. They got tons of size, 85 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: they know how to play. 86 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 5: It. 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: Seems like they got a bunch of guys who know 88 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: how to play. The coach has been there forever. They 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: got a lot of momentum. They've played some good teams 90 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: to get to the to get to this point. So 91 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: I like the way Illinois playing right now. 92 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to Todd Husak when we come 93 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: on back. Three days from today, the NFL Draft is 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: going down, and we know Todd is always hands on 95 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: for that coverage. So you know, three weeks, three weeks, sorry, 96 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: three weeks? What am I saying? 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We're 118 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: working on making the connection with Todd Hughsack. He was 119 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: a big part of forty nine ers pre and post 120 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: throughout the football season, and of course he is hands 121 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: on when it comes to the NFL Draft. You know, Kruge, 122 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: I know something that you mentioned, by the way, during. 123 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: A break some somewhere, Bruce Hornsby's cursing you right now. 124 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right. I can take it, Bruce, I 125 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: can take it. 126 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: You can take it. 127 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: You know something that we got into with Todd Husack 128 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: right before the wild card weekend of the playoffs is 129 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: something you noted to me during the break that was 130 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Jalen Hurts and the iffness 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and now Jeremy Fowler is putting out stories. 132 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Sources are getting antsy, and when people have jobs on 133 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: the line, all of a sudden things start coming out. 134 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: So let's ask him all about it. Todd Husack joins 135 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: us on the UMA guest line. Happy Almost NFL Draft 136 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: season three weeks from today. 137 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: What's up, Todd? 138 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: It's always NFL season. There's no there is no off season. 139 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 6: We are in it and I love it. I mean, 140 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 6: they're all the moves and free agent signings and positioning 141 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 6: for the draft and how guys are getting paid and 142 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 6: where they're going. It's been exciting. I think the forty 143 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: nine Ers have done themselves a ton of favors this 144 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: offseason with some of their signings, not just the personnel 145 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 6: they've picked up, but the contracts they've signed him too, 146 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 6: and it's it's been fun to watch. I think the 147 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 6: forty nine ers fans should be excited about some of 148 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 6: those offseason signings, and then we'll see what they can 149 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 6: pieces they can pick up in the draft. 150 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into those signings coming up in a second. 151 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I was just telling Kruge how one of the last 152 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: times we had you on was right before the wild 153 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: card weekend when they were getting ready to go to 154 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: Philly and you had your doubts about Jalen Hurts and 155 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: even though he was a Super Bowl champion, like the 156 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: long term future and the fit and how cohesive it 157 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: was with the coaching staff, and now Jeremy Fowler of 158 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: ESPN is putting out a lot of things that seem 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: like maybe there's a disconnect and Jalen Hurts wants to 160 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: play his own game, and that four verts play with 161 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Eric's knocking it down now might have been a Jalen 162 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Hurts kind of idea. What do you think is ultimately 163 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Because Philly, we've seen it in recent history. 164 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they are an MVP candidate or 165 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning coach. 166 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: They can move off here pretty quickly. 167 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 6: Well, I think you look at how teams have been constructed, 168 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 6: and I think there's two good examples with the Eagles 169 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 6: and the Texans in the AFC. If the Texans had 170 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 6: a capable quarterback, they're playing in the Super Bowl. And 171 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 6: I think if Philly had a quarterback, and certainly Jalen 172 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 6: Hurts has shown ability, but I would not put him 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 6: in the top half or maybe in the top twenty 174 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 6: five of starting quarterbacks that you trust to run. I 175 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 6: don't think he'd be a good fit for Kyle Shanahan's offense. 176 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 6: And so how does he run an offense where they 177 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 6: have a top tier defense and outstanding playmakers around him, 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: two first round wide receivers and a top three running 179 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 6: back in sake one Barkley, And yet that offense struggled 180 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 6: and struggled mightily, and you have discontent from the wide 181 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 6: receiver position. How do you sort through that and get 182 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 6: a If they could score twenty eight points a game 183 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 6: with those offensive playmakers doesn't seem like a huge stretch. 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 6: Boy they I think they'd beat the team to beat 185 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: with that defense. Yet they could not do that consistently. 186 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 6: I I was surprised they didn't make more of a 187 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 6: push to maybe move him. Now, that's that's the tough 188 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 6: part is if you're looking from their perspective and they 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: have Tanner McKee, who's a really good backup quarterback, do 190 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 6: they take a huge chance and take a swing and 191 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: get some draft picks and try to move Jalen Jalen Hurts. 192 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: That wouldn't That wouldn't surprise me because I think he 193 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 6: held them back offensively for a team that is built 194 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 6: to win a championship in the Eagles, and he's proven 195 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 6: they can win one with him. But it wasn't necessarily 196 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 6: because of him. I think it was he was part 197 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 6: of that offensive team. If they have a premier quarterback 198 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 6: or maybe a top end quarterback, it becomes easier and 199 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 6: it'll be a fascinating I think how teams view that position, 200 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 6: especially with the talent around him, I think it'll be 201 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 6: a fascinating piece on how and by the way, how 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 6: do other teams view him? Is Jalen Hurts an upgrade 203 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 6: over the current quarterback that you have around the league? 204 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 6: I don't know how many teams that's the case. So yeah, 205 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: it'll be it'll be fascinating. It's why it's such a 206 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 6: It's why it's such a great sport, and why it's 207 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: such a great position because there are so many different 208 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 6: things that go into playing quarterback at high level. 209 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: When you think about it, I mean, I agree with you. 210 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: By the way, I think there's a very high light 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: cleihood that at some point Howie and the Eagles go 212 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: with Tanner McKey. 213 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna go with Tanner McKey. 214 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: Now you know this, this this Jeremy Fowler bombshell article 215 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: had you know, Hurts with the guy who called for 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: the four verticals. Okay, whatever there, that's defensible but supposedly 217 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: he wanted to avoid playing under center. 218 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: That's not defensible. 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: According to this report, he was reluctant to let it 220 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: rip at times because, particularly against zone coverage, that is 221 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: absolutely identifiable. When you watch the film, you can see 222 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: Jalen hurts his low interception totals because he doesn't throw 223 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: the ball in the middle of the field, down the field. Ever, 224 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: Supposedly he pushed back on changes that would diversify the 225 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: scheme a little bit. Uh, there's talking about poor body language. 226 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: He wasn't always bought in. Sometimes he diverts from the 227 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: game plan, changes, play calls to an excessive degree that 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: they're saying he's not coachable. I mean, uh, I don't know. 229 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: Supposedly his teammates are not the biggest fans of his 230 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: I think they are. I think it would be a bombshell. 231 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine. Who do you even think? Where 232 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: would you even send him? I mean, Miami's got Malik Willis. 233 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: I mean all the jobs. I mean Falcons have Tua, 234 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: the teams that you would think almost everybody who doesn't 235 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: have a quarterback, I mean the tea. 236 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, probably Cardinals happy with what they have. 237 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: Maybe the Jets. Maybe the Jets throw them to the Jets. 238 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Jets would be I think it would be 239 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 6: an upgrade for the Jets for sure. But I think 240 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: I think you're right. I think he does if you 241 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: have an offensive coordinator who can work with him to 242 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 6: accentuate all the things he does well, which I think 243 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: is run and have a one to two read. But 244 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 6: he's not accurate, he doesn't anticipate. He throws the ball 245 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 6: down the field, but he really his strengths are breaking down, 246 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 6: like when things break down, he can scramble, but he's 247 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 6: not your typical pocket passer, where that's the majority of 248 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 6: NFL offenses. That's how it's run, and you've got to 249 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 6: make quick decisions and throw the ball on time and 250 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 6: on the money. Those are not his strengths, and I 251 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 6: think you can get away with it when you have 252 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 6: a really good defense and a great running back. But 253 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 6: I was not impressed with him last year. I wasn't 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: impressed with him in the playoff game against the Niners, 255 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 6: and he just makes He doesn't give you enough upside 256 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 6: where you feel comfortable building your offense around him and 257 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 6: considering the pieces he has, can you get away with 258 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: having a Tanem McKee who you're paying very little at 259 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 6: the time. Can you get some pieces for Jalen Hurts. 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 6: I've been saying this for a while. I think that 261 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: would be a smart move for the Eagles if you're 262 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 6: looking at the fe because I don't think Jalen Hurts 263 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 6: is a guy. 264 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Talking to Todd Husach here on the UMA guest line, 265 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: getting you ready for the NFL Draft coming up, one 266 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: of our discussion points was the comments made about Christian 267 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: McCaffrey and how they have the intentions to lessen the 268 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: workload and we know that getting four hundred and thirteen 269 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: touches is not going to be something sustainable. At the 270 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: same time, they always say this, but then the reality 271 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: is that it's hard to get him off the field. 272 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to come off the field. Shanahan doesn't 273 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: want to keep him off the field. Talked about how 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: sometimes he calls a play, doesn't know he's off the field, 275 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and then say it's a Brian Robinson or some other 276 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: backup running back that doesn't have the same skill set 277 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: as Christian, particularly in the receiving game. Do you think 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: that Jordan James is someone that can evolve into a 279 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: pass catcher, and do you think they might try to 280 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: find somebody in the draft or an undrafted free agent 281 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: that could be the guy that fills in as the 282 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey type but a much lesser level. 283 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 6: Well, we talked about this throughout the season last year, 284 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 6: is that you there has to be a bad balance 285 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 6: between limiting the exposure that you give to Christian McCaffrey 286 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: by getting in the ball so many times, especially runs 287 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 6: between the tackle, but also keeping your best players on 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 6: the field. And he McCaffrey is clearly one of the 289 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 6: best running backs in all the football and so how 290 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 6: do you take him out of a critical drive or 291 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 6: a critical moment in a drive and give yourself the 292 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 6: best chance to succeed? And I think that's where the 293 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 6: forty nine ers have struggled in balancing that. So I 294 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 6: think having a good back up Jordan James we just 295 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: haven't seen enough of He certainly has the physical ability, 296 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 6: but we just haven't seen enough of him or any 297 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: of him really as a forty nine er. Can he 298 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: shoulder some of that load? I do think having Brian 299 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 6: Robinson last year, Brian Robinson Jr. Was a He was 300 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: effective when they gave him the ball. They just didn't 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 6: give him the ball enough. So how do you figure 302 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: out And I've said this for a couple of months, 303 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: I think transitioning Christian McCaffrey to more of a receiver 304 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 6: where you can still get them touches and maybe it's 305 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 6: six or seven catches, which is a lot per game, 306 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 6: and then ten carries. But you have to have a 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: running back that you really trust to get production when 308 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 6: you do give him the ball, and that has to 309 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 6: be in the Christian McCaffrey wasn't a super effective runner. 310 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: Larry you and I went through his yards per carry 311 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 6: per game last year. There were a number of games 312 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 6: where it was three yards. And so how do you 313 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: figure out more consistent production from the running back position 314 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: while getting Christian McCaffrey as many touches as possible? And 315 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the challenge. But you 316 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 6: have to have somebody that you trust in the backfield, 317 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 6: and whether that's a veteran or maybe it's a young 318 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: guy like a Jordan James or somebody in the draft. 319 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 6: I really like the running back out of Notre Dame 320 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 6: j Darien Price. I think he's he's a guy that 321 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 6: can is that one cut back he catches the ball? Well, 322 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 6: I mean you want, you want a lot of the 323 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 6: qualities that Christian McCaffrey has, not just we can hand 324 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: them the ball and he's going to get three yards 325 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 6: or three plus yards to carry, maybe more, But can 326 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 6: he catch the ball out of the backfield. So it's 327 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 6: a replacement for him because I think you have to 328 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 6: the way the running back position now in the NFL, 329 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: very few guys are able to make it seventeen games. 330 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 6: So how do you build that running back room where 331 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 6: you can get McCaffrey, utilize all the things he does 332 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 6: really well, and have a good backup running back and 333 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 6: have a good backup Christian McCaffrey. So all of those 334 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: things have to come into play. And I think that's 335 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 6: where they were limited a little bit last year. They 336 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: didn't have that third guy that they could trust, and 337 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 6: they really didn't use the second guy in Brian Robinson Junior, 338 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 6: who I think is proved to be pretty capable last year. 339 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: So how do they replace that position. It maybe Jordan James, 340 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: maybe he shows up in spring ball in the preseason, 341 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 6: but I do think they need to add a piece 342 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 6: there and somebody that when it's crunch time and McCaffrey's 343 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 6: getting worn out, how do they like middle of the 344 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: third quarter? How do they get that production in the 345 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 6: run game and have a guy they can hand it 346 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 6: off to, makes that first cut, sets up his blocks, 347 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 6: get some yard, n apt to contact, and can catch 348 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: the ball out of the backfield. There's not a ton 349 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 6: of guys in the NFL that can certainly there's very 350 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 6: few can do what christ McCaffrey does. But how do 351 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 6: you find a similar type player that can still run 352 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 6: the full offense, pick it all up and produce. And 353 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: that's going to be their challenge. 354 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: I think it'sun be interesting to see what they do 355 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: at tight end because you know Kittle got hurt. It's 356 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: a serious injury. They say he's going to come back 357 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: for week one. He shouldn't come back for week one. 358 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: He got hurt in the playoffs, he tore his achilles. 359 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: He shouldn't come back until like probably Hollow or November. 360 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's what I would want for 361 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: him if I was his agent. But you know, I 362 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: know he he's vowing to come back week one. So 363 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 4: now the Niners, it's like, what do you do at 364 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: tight end. You have tanj Just, but he's not a blocker. 365 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: He's just a receiver. He's an awesome receiver, but he's 366 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: just a receiver. And then I'm looking at this tight 367 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: end draft and it's just it's really it's this got 368 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: to be the most unique group of top tier tight ends. 369 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: You got Kenyon Sadiq, who's like very much like Vernon Davis, 370 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: just big, fast, explosive. There's this kid, Eli Stowers from 371 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: Vanderbilt who's got a forty five inch vertical and he's 372 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: six four to two forty. I mean, think about what 373 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: you could do with a guy a tight end with 374 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: a forty five inch vert And then you got he 375 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: was a quack. 376 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: Dower started his college career as a quarterback. He understands 377 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 6: the full offense, like what they're trying to do. 378 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: And then there's Oscar Delp from Georgia who never had 379 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: more than three hundred yards receiving in any season, but man, 380 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: he just ran four four eight at six five, two 381 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: fifty and he's got good vert and he looks like 382 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: kind of like George Kittle in some ways, coming out 383 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: of Iowa, fast and raw and kind of underutilized. So 384 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, where do you put tight 385 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: end in the in the whole mix. Then there's the 386 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: Stanford kid who's big and strong. I mean, this is 387 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: a guy who's gonna move you on the line of scrimmage. 388 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: Sam Roush is going up your game. 389 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 4: They gotta get brock Purty a good tight end, right, 390 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: because I mean he threw it to Charlie Kohler a ton. 391 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: He immediately throws it to the Niner tight ends all 392 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: the time. You gotta have more than what they got, right, 393 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: Which tight end. 394 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: Do you like? 395 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 6: Oh, Sadik is pretty good? Can can we get him? 396 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: Maybe? 397 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 6: That guy can fly and jump and make plays after 398 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 6: the catch. And he is one of the most devastating blockers. 399 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 6: There was a play yeah last year where he was 400 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 6: blocking down the field where he I think nearly picked 401 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 6: a guy up off the ground and ran him back 402 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 6: fifteen yards and finished in the end zone. And a linebacker, 403 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 6: not not like some one hundred and sixty pound corner. 404 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: He is a He is a bad man. I mean, 405 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 6: I think he his game translates pretty well to the 406 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 6: next level. I like I like Stours a lot. I 407 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 6: think his ability to his background as a quarterback, his 408 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 6: athletic ability. By the way, all these guys like that. 409 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 6: I think that's that's been the big change in the 410 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: NFL draft. There's not a huge difference between guys that 411 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 6: you're looking at in the second round from a pure 412 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 6: physical ability and guys that you're looking at in the 413 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: fifth round. They're all six five, two fifty and run 414 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: in the mid foors. Like, all these guys can make plays. 415 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: So how do you value One guy might be a 416 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 6: more technical blocker and maybe you can teach him at 417 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 6: a catch. One guy might be a more I really 418 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 6: liked what they did with Ton just last year. Like, 419 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 6: Ton just has that innate ability to make plays. And 420 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 6: we saw it in the open against Seattle where he 421 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 6: makes that catch. He just played football. That ball was 422 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 6: in the air and he reached out and grabbed it 423 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 6: from the defender. He made plays, and we saw a 424 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 6: few catches over the course of the season where he 425 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 6: catches it below his knees, doesn't break stride. That's a 426 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: really tough catch that is more natural. So do you 427 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 6: draft a guy that has that natural pass catching ability 428 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: and you teach him at a block, or do you 429 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: put more emphasis on a guy who might be a 430 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: better end line blocker like Sam Rousch, and you can 431 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 6: hopefully work on his hands and his ability to run 432 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 6: after the catch. But I do think there's a handful 433 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 6: of guys that can come in and play at a 434 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 6: high level pretty early in their career just based on 435 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 6: their physical talents. But how does that fit into the 436 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 6: forty nine ers system? What do they value? What qualities 437 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 6: do they value early with the understanding that hey, we 438 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 6: can teach this guy how to do those other things. 439 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 6: Maybe it's halfway through the rookie year, in year two 440 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 6: or three, and trust that they're going to get better. 441 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: But this is something we can plug in early in 442 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 6: their career and make the offense better. 443 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: Todd last one for me, should the forty nine ers 444 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: reshape their philosophy on not using early picks day one 445 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: picks on offensive lineman. I'm not saying they've never done 446 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: it under Lynch in Shanahan because everyone's immediate reaction is 447 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: mc glench, but by and large it is something that 448 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: they have decided to get value on in later rounds 449 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: and then use Chris Firster in this coaching staff to 450 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: develop them. Now, I think about even if Trent comes 451 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: back and they work something out. You got to think 452 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: about life after Trent. The interior of this offensive line 453 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: got eaten alive in the playoff game against Seattle, Like, 454 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: do you think that it might be time to reshape 455 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: the philosophy because of how you try to construct a 456 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: roster to win within your division? 457 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 6: One hundred percent you have to do that. I think 458 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 6: the teams that have had success in the playoffs and 459 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 6: won super Bowls, so the teams that are built upfront, 460 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: and we've seen obviously Patrick Mahomes is that success in 461 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 6: Winny Super Bowls. But Sam Darnold played at a high level, 462 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 6: get a great offensive line in a really good run 463 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 6: game and the offensive player of the year wide receiver. 464 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 6: I think you can. I think offensive line has to 465 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 6: be a priority, and it's I think you're right. It's 466 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 6: something they michaec Glinchy was a long time ago, so 467 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 6: it's something they haven't addressed over the last few years. 468 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 6: And I think they're paying the price for that now 469 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 6: as they look to rebuild part of that offensive line 470 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 6: as guys either might retire or go elsewhere like Trent Williams, 471 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 6: or go elsewhere because their contracts are up and they're 472 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 6: valuable and so the forty nine ers have to address it, 473 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 6: not just for this year, but I think the next 474 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 6: two to three years. And the teams that have had 475 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: success deep in the playoffs are ones that have drafted 476 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: well on the offensive line and defensive line, and the 477 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 6: forty nine ers have addressed defensive line obviously over the 478 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: last few years, but I think offensive line has to 479 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: be when you can plug in pieces for guys that 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 6: can come in and contribute and play, not just be 481 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 6: part of that unit, but can be leaders and guys 482 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 6: that can solidify that position for the first year. Like 483 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 6: Game one, they haven't had many of those. Poony was 484 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 6: a guy that came in and played well as a rookie. 485 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: I think it was hurt early last season, but he 486 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 6: came back and played well. They need two or three 487 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 6: more of those guys that you can plug in and 488 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 6: compete for positions, like let's have it be guys fighting 489 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 6: over a spot because they're playing really well as opposed 490 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 6: to we just got to plug this guy in and 491 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 6: maybe pick up somebody that gets cut from another team. 492 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 6: Like they need to build from within, and I think 493 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 6: doing that through the draft has to be a priority 494 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 6: this year. 495 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Todd One last one for me. 496 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: You know, today the big story is Kirk Cousins to 497 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: the Raiders, right, and so he looks like the Raiders 498 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: are going to try to start Kirk Cousins Klink. Kubiak 499 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: obviously the new head coach there, and there were some 500 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 4: stats earlier that I thought were really interesting that they 501 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: floated across the screen. Fifty one percent of Seattle's offensive 502 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: snaps under Kubiak have come under center. You know, most 503 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 4: of any offensive coordinator in the NFL since twenty twenty one, 504 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: they have more snaps under center than any other team. 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza has five career pass attempts under center in 506 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: his FBS career, out of one thousand and eight passing attempts, 507 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: only five from under center. You played this position, This 508 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: is gonna be a big story. Why what is the 509 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 4: difficulty when you see that is ment? Do you forecast 510 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: difficulty for Mendoza trying to go from a situation where 511 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: he's never been under center to now he's gonna be scrutinized. 512 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: He's gonna be under center, it's gonna be timing, it's 513 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: gonna be tied to his footsteps and a different worlds 514 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: than he's been in. What do you think is that 515 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: gonna be difficult? 516 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 6: It's it's difficult because it's different. I don't and I'd 517 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 6: say that because I don't think the overall concept is difficult. 518 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 6: Like if he's a good athlete and has good footwork, 519 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: it's something you can teach and practice, but he hasn't 520 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 6: done it. And by the way, most college quarterbacks, I 521 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: think the college systems Now, I would imagine there's not 522 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 6: many guys who have thrown fifty percent of their passes 523 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: or twenty five percent of their passes from under center 524 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 6: that are coming out in the draft. So I don't 525 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 6: think that's unique. But if if that's something Kubiak hasn't 526 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 6: is important for a system and the timing and the 527 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: way the handoffs run and the run game works and 528 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 6: the play action, then it might take some time. And again, 529 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 6: Mendoza is probably going to be the number one pick 530 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 6: in the draft, and maybe he develops in to the guy, 531 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 6: but there's some questions around him, and that's that's one 532 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 6: of them. And if that's your system and this guy 533 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 6: hasn't done it, there's going to be some questions around it. So, 534 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: by the way, incredible job by Kirk Cousins. That guy 535 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 6: has made. I just saw the status he's made Tom 536 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 6: Brady more more money than Tom Brady. 537 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford the only two to pass 538 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: him up in that category. So Kirk Cousins the legend 539 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: and his agent also a legend. 540 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, God bless his agent. But I do think it's 541 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 6: it's just different, and so not to say he can't 542 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 6: do it, but there's going to be a little bit 543 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 6: of a learning curve. Part of it is surveying the 544 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: defense from the shotgun versus under center, and the timing 545 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: of your footwork and how you hand it off. They 546 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: like to do a lot of the zone runs and 547 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 6: we're ashon genty that's one of the things he does 548 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 6: really well is inside outside zone and that that's footwork 549 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: from under center, and so working on those things throughout 550 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: the off season. It takes time, and it takes timing 551 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 6: and that so all of those things I think are 552 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: are it's going to be a fascinating off season and 553 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 6: how that works. But I think it's a good signing 554 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: at the very least. I mean, boys that can be 555 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 6: a fun quarterback room between Mendoz and Cousins, those are 556 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: two of the more quirky guys I think that will 557 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 6: be in the NFL working together. But Mendoza is going 558 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 6: to have a good mentor and the guy who's been 559 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: there and done it for a number of teams over 560 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 6: a long period of time, and I think that'll help 561 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: his development long term. But it's also interesting that they're 562 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 6: going to pay that quarterback that much money and Cousins 563 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 6: and still maybe draft a guy number one overall in 564 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 6: Mendoza and commit to him being the future of the franchise. 565 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 6: So I think it's I think it's beneficial for Mendoza, 566 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 6: and we talked about it earlier Larry, where coming into 567 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: a locker room where you have to be the guy 568 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, If they do draft Mendoza, he 569 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 6: doesn't have to be the guy. He can kind of 570 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 6: be with Kirk Cousins and doesn't have to get the 571 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: respect of everybody day one, and he can kind of 572 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 6: grow into that position versus being the guy right off 573 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 6: the bus from the draft. Hey take some time, grow, 574 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 6: learn the players and figure out how this thing works 575 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 6: at the next level, while you have a guy who's 576 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 6: been doing it for a very long time and for cousins. 577 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Tod, you're the best. We appreciate you coming by. 578 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you plenty as we get ready for 579 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the draft and approach it a little bit closer. 580 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: So good to check in with you. And like you said, 581 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: it's always football season. 582 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 6: Right, always a twelve months a year. I think, I 583 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 6: said my daughter this was I was driving her to 584 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 6: cross practice and they were talking about football and she 585 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 6: was like, I thought football season ended. So sweet. It 586 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 6: never ends all the time. 587 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: It's always there. 588 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 6: I love it. 589 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: Thanks Ton, I love it. 590 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: Thanks Thanks Todd, guys. 591 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Tom Hugh Sachey. 592 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: We're overdue for a break and we'll hand it off 593 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: to dirty work when we come on back on these 594 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: sports later. 595 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 5: Papa and Silver Now continues live from the KNBR Casino Matrix, 596 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: Brook Actually with jack Pots Studios, Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots 597 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 5: are here. 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Yeah, thanks to the guest, Thanks to Jacob. 608 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: Maybe we should finish start it and finish it the 609 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: way we started it and just tell you know, hey, Jacob, 610 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: break already, f and break. 611 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 612 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: We go to our Matt Chapman, to Schmidy and a big. 613 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Thank you to Peyton Manning as well for the content. 614 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch the United Way Sketch when I 615 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: get out out of here. It's time for dirty work 616 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: with cops De Pop and Tim Webb. Just remember, everybody, 617 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: you throw eye catch and we're gonna get the f 618 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: out of here. 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